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Tactical Marine edition

>Community Links:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/
https://www.unitcrunch.com
https://www.newrecruit.eu
https://wahapedia.ru
https://40k.gallery/

>3rd Party Models Pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh (embed) (embed)

>Alternative rules:
https://www.starbreach.com/home
https://nolimitswargames.wordpress.com/

>Pre 10th Torrent:
Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5

>10th Edition Rules:
https://gofile.io/d/9LvQTL
https://mega.nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A

>How to Make Wargames Terrain (2e 2003)
https://gofile.io/d/s99zDV

>Inferno! Magazine complete collection (1997-2004)
https://archive.org/download/Inferno30/Inferno30_archive.torrent

>Warhammer Monthly complete collection (1989-2004)
https://archive.org/download/WarhammerMonthly0502001BlackLibrary62pminutemenAbaddonblackLibrary/WarhammerMonthly0502001BlackLibrary62pminutemenAbaddonblackLibrary_archive.torrent

>Games Workshop/Citadel Miniatures painting guides (1989-2016)
https://archive.org/download/games-workshop-painting-guides/games-workshop-painting-guides_archive.torrent

>Previous Thread:
>>97980101

>Thread Question:
Will you go halves with me (You can have the marines)
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I claim this thread for the changer of ways!
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i like grots.
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Post models
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Repostan my edit with the improved breasplate.

R8 my shit + ideas/suggestions/comments plz
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Am I the only one who likes the new marine stuff? I like the captain, the plumed helmet is my fave out of these.
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>>97982559
The head is so small it's very funny otherwise this is just glorious
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>>97982569
It's fine unless you have rock-autism, just nothing wow-worthy
10th ed's at least got us excited by the return of Termies
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>>97982569
Yes, yes you are.
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>>97982563
The chest is cool it's a nice variant, keep the regular boltrifle.
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Marines will defend anything!
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>>97982569
The captain is very similar to the one in the heroes of the chapter kit, but I do like the extra helmet. The greek helmet would go hard on minotaurs
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>>97982545
I wonder if the new box will be sold like hell and in 6 months they end up cheap like the other box sets you can get on ebay from under-sellers.
>im interested...... maybe....
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>>97982569
This helmet is doing something good.
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>>97982576
That's the point of Marines. Defend everything and attack everything. For the Imperium.
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>>97982569
I can't like it since it's all primaris ans it keeps shitting on the classic units I started this army for.
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>>97982576
I would prefer centurions to this.
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>>97982559
How many marines are in that pile?
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>>97982579
The starter box set is not the Leviathan box set, just an FYI
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>>97982576
Primaris are cool.
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>>97982576
centurions were a mistake, thankfully gravis has replaced them
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>>97982576
>It's about to GET HEAVY
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>>97982597
Is this gun using tit milk as ammo?
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>>97982587
14. Number 15 was supposed to crawl away in fear but I forgor to paint him. Will add him later at some point.
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>>97982569
The box suffers from the fact that GW needs Space Marines in every set as they are the approved starter faction, even if they dont have much to add to them. Its clear to anyone with eyes that the new Ork stuff was the clear focus and the marines are just there because they have to be
in a better world we would've got guard vs orks with a steel legion refresh seeing as its armageddon but GW feels it needs marines in every edition set so
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>>97982597
no one told me there were new votaan units!
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>>97982582
Yeah, it's great. Been waiting for a helmet that has the small skull, laurels and a plume for a long while now.
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>>97982559
I love the shit eating grin the M&M marine has. Perfectly in character.
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>>97982569
It's aight but there's nothing there that really grabs the eye. The captain is cool. The rest is just aggressively ok, nothing bad but 9th had bladeguards and 10th had termies so this one feels lukewarm.
Also doesn't help that all the Ork minis look really good.
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>>97982604
so he did crawl away in the end
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>people coping this box won't sell out in 5 minutes due to marine players
THEY WILL BUY ANYTHING!
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>>97982559
hoping to have both pec plates in place by tomorrow
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>>97982545
I don't get it. Why remake the basic intercessors of all things?
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>>97982620
I wanted to pick that KT up but was too late
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>>97982545
Snap!
Only I can get twenty five of these guys for 19.99 with modular weapons.

Jus' sayin'.
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>>97982624
because whats that, you want a tactical squad? FUCK YOU, we aspect warriors
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>>97982624
Because they're nearly 10 years old
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>>97982624
because a starter product requires a beginner marine unit and it helps the brand's image by saying
>look at the angry grill, we fixed primaris!
I'm not even sure the current intercessor kit will be replaced, they might keep both, the current one as a multikit thing and the new ETB ones for bundle boxes only.

Or they're truly throwing shit at the wall and redoing primaris all over again.
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>>97982630
Cute
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>>97982620
>bottom center
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUID0jSh2Ic
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>>97982589
Yeah I get how it might be priced but it's always cheaper.
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>>97982630
i would totally run these as SoB
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>>97982569
It's just more space marines, some older design cues doesn't really make them better. The land speeder isn't any more interesting than the old land speeder was which wasn't very interesting either.
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Why are they Eradicators with Heavy Bolters and not Heavy Intercessors with Heavy Bolters?
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>>97982620
What compels marine fags to eat whatever slop James serve them?
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i'm a marinepig and i will be consuming the product
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>>97982644
>I'm not even sure the current intercessor kit will be replaced, they might keep both
No. They'll just replace the one.
And no, they won't replace it with the ETB shit, ETB only exists in starterboxes because GW designs with retards in mind. The kit is *purposefully* designed for people who have never used snippers or plastic glue ever. Complete noobs.

The new intercessors will get a multipart kit, which will come with more cosmetic options, it's the same what happened to the sternguard vets in the Leviathan starterbox. We first got the ETB sterns, then GW made multipart ones that had more bits to them.
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I still havent finished painting my indomitus box
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>>97982545
>"The new Intercessors are a mix of old and new parts guys!"
>Reveal just shows Mk X and Mk 7 armor options

Where are the fuckin Beaks James
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>>97982657
>The last time a Land Speeder was interesting
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>Ultramarines and Calgar are the main characters in 11th Armageddon.

HOLY BASED
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>>97982675
Makes more sense than the Blood Angels being the stars of the show.
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>>97982569
It's pretty cool if you like primaris
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Did Rogal Dorn have anyone you would call his friend among his brothers or his sons?
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>>97982685
No
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>>97982673
On the orks
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Orks are such jobbers lmao
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>>97982704
its funny that way
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>>97982685
no this guy even argued with himself
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Collage status?
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>>97982685
doakes.jpg
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>>97982676
GW only put BA on the box as cheap nostalgiaslop.
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>>97982545
>Thread Question:
>Will you go halves with me (You can have the marines)
Honestly I'm thinking about getting the marines if I can get them cheap
I've already got orks and the only things I'd want are the wartrakke and dakkarig, but a small marine force to do <my dudes> stuff with is starting to grow on me
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>>97982711
If may's theme isn't decided and if it somehow ends up being creepy... I might get restarted on my models on my little bit of free time.
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>>97982673
Mk6 is lost technology. Imperium can no longer make them until someone rediscovers the mk6 helmet STC.
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>>97982569
they're generic and fine, which isnt the worst thing in the world
I actually like the librarian, base rock and all
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>>97982714
What?
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>>97982711
Working on it. Expect it later today.
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>>97982674
The only noteworthy element of this thing is that it's made from a deodorant.
That's it.
Otherwise it's not a memorable or interesting design.
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When I repaint this model I'm gonna move it to a 60mm base and turn it into a mini-scene instead of a game piece.
>>97982732
How many entries is it at now? Did we get to 50?
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I've been getting into this hobby since 2022 and I still cannot tell the difference between primaris and firstborn. How can you immediately tell?
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>>97982752
First: open your eyes
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>>97982752
the knees
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>>97982744
Au contraire.
It's noteworthy and interesting in that I could make three for a tenner, and spend the other fifteen quid on a packet of ciggies.
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Big Speeder
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>>97982674
James will never give something so nice and sleek to the Imperial Army. They're cruder and more riveted than the Imperial Guard.
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Dumb(?) question about Legends.
According to Wahapedia, when you play these dweebs as Legends on a 40k Daemon army, they consider that you're playing the old ass model with its 25mm base.
However, in AoS, they updated the models with 32mm bases, but 40k Daemons don't get those on their regular sheets.
So in this situation am I supposed to use 25mm or 32mm?
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What's this new brainrot coming from the Chudhammer community that only Liberals play Chaos?
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If I end up buying a whole Armageddon box I'm not sure what I'll do with the marine half. I kinda wanna keep the land speeder, I hate the grav plate shit on it but the rear has the same silhouette at least. I'm such a dumb fuck, I should've bought a ton of the old ones while they were still like $20 on eBay but I was too gamebrained and couldn't figure out how to use them. The rest of the marines I couldn't care less for but I'm not sure who's gonna want more fucking intercessors, characters, and vanguard vets without thunder hammers and storm shields.
Maybe I can find a player who doesn't want the mission decks and books and stuff and just get the Orks half and those.
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>>97982775
Culture wartards on either side are mentally retarded "me good guy you bad guy" tribalists, that's what it is.
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>it's a nostalgia box
>of models i already have from 20 years ago

what's the point? who is this appealing to?
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>>97982752
>since 2022
Of course you can't you've only seen primaris.
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>>97982752
Primaris are about a head maybe a head and a half taller, and broader, so seeing them together it's easy to tell.
Time was Primaris all used that grille-less perforated mouth-guard on their helmets, but as seen above, the old style of "frowny face" helmets are bleeding back in; as they were always more iconic.
The OG Primaris kits also had less gothic detail work and handicrafts, opting for a more "Factory Fresh" look, but people had mixed opinions on "cleaning up" the baroque over-ornamented styles that had developed as part of the signature aesthetic.
Weapons are a fair tell; the classic Space Marine boltgun is a fairly stubby looking thing' these newfangled bolt rifles or whatever, tend to be proportionally longer in the barrel.
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>>97982774
You're supposed to use the base the models come with, no that is not a shitpost.
I don't think anyone will mind your models being on larger base and good people will not make a fuss about such a nothingburger

>>97982779
Sell the models you don't use, there will be buyers
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Does anyone have that picture where an anon sculpted greenstuff hair onto the sanguinary guard helmets and it actually made them look pretty good?
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>>97982784
The weak nostalgiabait is for the whales/fanboys pic related, otherwise it's about new models, which means whales again and new players.
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>>97982797
You do know one of the fundamental aspects of this hobby is to collect and paint minis, right anon?
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>>97982663
>which will come with more cosmetic options
What's the point if it'll still be mkX shit? For all their talk about mixing older marks, every single chestplate, arms, backpack and legs are still purely mkX.
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>>97982569
I'd probably hate them less if they didn't exemplify broader problems with modern GW.
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wait are boyz losing their rokkits and big shootas? thats a bit shit
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>>97982685
>among his brothers
Horus.
Dorn was really close to Horus, it's why he refused to accept Horus betrayed them and why Horus knew Dorn so well.
>his sons
Sigismund.
Siggy was Dorn's favorite, his golden boy until he found religion and Dorn was a turbo atheist thanks to the Emperor. Dorn did reconcile with him during the seige though.
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>>97982803
What made you think otherwise?
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>>97982781
5 years ago
>"These progressives I just made up all think that if you play as the Imperium then you are facist irl. They don't understand liking something soley for the aethetics"
Today
>"If you play Chaos then you are actually a commie libtard."
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Are Night Lords fans still mad about the Jain Zar thing?
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>>97982812
Most likely same deal as termagants in leviathan. Starter set only has the basic loadout and then the standalone kit will include an extra sprue with the special guns.
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>>97982752
You can tell easily just by looking, the Primaris marines are taller and look far better than those dogshit ancient first born models that should all be legend as they are an embarrassment to the tabletop.
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>>97982818
>>"These progressives I just made up
>I just made up
nta but telling on yourself
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>>97982752
Just knowing which models are old really
Very forgivable for not being able to tell at a glance, the details are all minor next to the overall shared shapes
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I’m not denying the quality of the new ork models. However what’s in the box is completely pointless for anyone who isn’t a whale or a newbie.

There’s a grand total of 2 new units in the new ork models. Leviathan had 5 for nids. They’re good models but i don’t think any existing ork player needed 20 more boyz
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>>97982832
thats pretty much how I feel about it as well
plus I like the old twerking boys more anyway
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>>97982818
>These progressives I just made up
libtard fuck
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>>97982832
>ork players dont need more boyz
and thats where you are wrong. Never enough boyz
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>>97982825
It's using DARVO tactics mate.
>Deny
>Attack
>Reverse
>Victim and
>Offender

There's a remarkable overlap between what they call "Darvo" and the tactics outlined in Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" which has been the standard leftist text in political maneuver since it was published, and is arguably the book responsible for the notion of "Loyal Opposition" melting into a puddle of slurry.
Worse; it's tactics are also emulated by the right, so now they feel justified in doing it, because their selective memories barely reach back past the last moral panic paradigm.
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>>97982832
>>97982839
>He doesn't know
GW business model is focused on the big first-time purchases. That's why many boxes have no value when bought in multiples. Yes, old players need no more boys but this box is not for them. Like 99% of GW's shit, it's for clueless Timmies and collector whales.
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>>97982832
>for anyone who isn’t a whale or a newbie.
That's always been who starter sets are for, anon. It's in the name.
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>>97982832
YOU are the whale for thinking this way tbdesu. It's a cheap battleforce for orks, it doesn't need to be "NEW UNITS NEW UNITS WOAW!"
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>>97982854
Edition launch boxes aren't starter sets.
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What kind of bullshit made GW add 5 pages of errata and faq regarding pivoting big models?
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>>97982847
I hate this sort of consoomer mindset said as a meme, it the same thing as redditors going on about ‘my wallet is destroyed’ after a new battleforce is shown
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>>97982858
Yes they are. They are literally starter boxes with extra items.
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>>97982848
Are you telling me that the political world is full of self-serving dishonest people who believe the end justify the means?
What next? This extends to every circles and sectors of life?

Yes. Same tactics used in cults, by abusive spouse & families, authority figures, and internet community/fandom. Every troll, this board included.

They are all the same at their core and like identical seeds grow into the same trees.
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>>97982861
GW, in their strive to shrimplify the game, forgot it's a lot more difficult to rule advanced interactions if you removed all the basic systems and definitions that made them possible.
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>>97982861
Bring it back, cowards
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Thought about it for a while and realized green is the optimal color for space marines.
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>>97982825
>>97982842
How many games have you played where your opponent clutches their pearls and screams "Oh no, a facist!" After revealing your Space Marines?
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collage when, I want to see it already
legit can't wait
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>>97982804
>What's the point if it'll still be mkX shit?
To sell mkX shit to people who actually like mkX shit.
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>>97982878
True
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>>97982752
Im too old.

Does anyone play mechanicum? Are they bad now?
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>>97982752
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>>97982888
MkX lovers aren't human and shouldn't be catered to. But jokes aside, then your marketing can't consist on saying "guys we're bringing back older marks" if you aren't in fact bringing back older marks.
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>>97982763
vents*
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>>97982888
Variations sucked
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>>97982895
>then your marketing can't consist on saying "guys we're bringing back older marks" if you aren't in fact bringing back older marks.
They can when they bring back some mk10 helmets with mk7 face plates and then mk6 shin plates and mk6 shoulder pads.
They never defined how much or what they are bringing back.
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>>97982885
Sounds similar to these 3 rules for winning and buisness.
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Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
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>>97982878
Indeed.
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>>97982559
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>>97982906
>we're bringing it back
>really, how much?
>a tiny bit
>that's lame
>W-well you can't be mad, we never specified how much, so we're not bound to do more! You got carried away, it's not our fault!
You don't need to go to marketing school to know you shouldn't fuck around with people's expectations, because people learn pretty quickly you're not trustworthy, and brand trust is extremely hard to rebuild.

40k is super popular right now but the message that GW are lying money grubbers is also pretty popular and it will not get better with that attitude.
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>>97982719
Good to see some quality progress on your crazy project
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>>97982559
You are the best of us.
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>>97982906
>mk6 shin plates
Not a single one in those new intercessors.
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>>97982832
You want to keep getting new units forever? That way lies either bloat or culling
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What are the gentleman's picks among canon chapters? I nominate Marines Malevolent, Crimson fists, and Red Scorpions.
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Why do space marine vehicles have to look so goofy?
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>>97982943
They don’t when they’re painted in black Templar colors
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>>97982889
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>>97982952
oddly fitting for primaris slop
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The thing that made classic plastic marines fun is that EVERY part could be instantly swapped with other parts. Legs, arms, chests, shoulders, helmets, backpacks, weapons. All of it, instantly swappable with no modification necessary. Removing the aquila and defined knee pads on a modern model and saying it's totally mk6 now or whatever doesn't fix the problem of GW's modern kit design.
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>>97976862 here
Seriously I was supposed to be proven right.
Is the new space marines vs orks box so bad that they're not even worth making threads about?
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>>97982948
it doesn't matter what colour a land speeder or an invader atv or an impulsor or a stormraven is brah, it's gonna look silly
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>>97982559
Reposting my collage entry
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I'm going to need a new ork skin recipe so I paint a fuck tonne of them in 11e
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>>97982892
One Piece size differences is how I imagine 40k size differences. It's a world were 8-9foot custodes blend into the crowd by wearing a hood as do astartes/Fallen in the Lion book. There's loads of guys space marine and bigger than arent super soldiers just wandering around. Mutants and even ademch priests who are enlarged under their crimson robes
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>>97982958
except when it wasn't
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>>97982918
Dude, GW is a modern multi billion dollar mega corporation and as jewish as they come.
This shit is just on character for them. They don't care that they did the bare minimum, because they know people will buy it anyway.
I already knew from day 1 seeing that trailer where it showed us all the intercessors, chaplain, captain, 100% confirmed to me that we are only getting token mk7 helmets. Which is exactly what the box is because all of the models are basically identical to what were shown in the trailer. It even has a mk10 helmet with a cybernetic eye, which appears in the trailer.

I don't even remember if GW ever even promised they are bringing back old stuff anywhere, they just showed that one intercessor image with mk7 face plate and people went wild and started assuming shit.
And like the saying goes;
Assumption, is the mother of all fuck ups.
Anyone who expected GW to update the intercessors and give them the similiar treatment like what they did the Red Corsair raider kit were already lost in the sauce.
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>>97982958
>EVERY part could be instantly swapped with other parts.
I think the reason Primaris don't have this aspect is because GW saw 3rd party like AnvilIndustry and decided they want to frustrate the 3rd party aftermarket when it comes to making compatible bits.
AI can generate 3D models based off pictures and that new Yarrick plastic model that got a printed result quickly is probably gonna scare James Workshop into removing the 360 view option on the Warhammer webstore.

So now we just need to convince Bongland to make a useless law for big GW sized companies stating it is mandatory for 360 degree views on webstores because Bongland lawmakers will do everything in their power to avoid passing actually needed laws.
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>>97982870
Yes, but this is a public forum, and as I speak to you, I hope to disseminate a more detached awareness of this phenomenon, so it can be contained and annihilated.

I do this because I believe that my position is grounded in observations of nature, and that if it is in the end, mistaken, then I too deserve to die naked, on fire and bereft of any excuses.
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I like orks :D
>>97982559
absolutely beautiful. might as well repost my entry alongside the thousand sons poster.
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>>97982982
>red corsairs raiders
These are trash & bland
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>>97982939
People with refined taste
>Crimson Fists
>Legion of the Damned
>Mantis Warriors
>Minotaurs
>Red Scorpions
>Scythes of the Emperor

People with taste
>Dark Angels
>Salamanders
>Imperial Fists
>White Scars
>Flesh Tearers
>Lamenters
>Astral Claws
>Marines Malevolent

Basic bitch options
>Ultramarines
>Space Wolves
>Blood Angels
>Black Templars
>Blood Ravens
>Raptors
>Carcharodons

These people do not exist
>Iron Hands
>Raven Guard
>Black Dragons
>Howling Griffons
>Exorcists
>Astral Knights
>(Your dudes)

Fuck you you know I'm right.
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>>97982991
And people say liking primaris is bait.
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>>97982987
It cannot be contained or annihilated.
There is hope: create your own life away from the cancer. That is what living and let live means, accepting that the world is so because it chooses to be so and cannot be anything else. But also that you are not the world, and every retard on /40kg/ telling you to not trust your eyes has no power over anyone.

Liars never had any power, for it is the lied to that choose what to believe.
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>>97982998
I like black dragons...
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>marinefags
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>>97982998
Ultramarines dab on all those beta chapters.
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>>97983009
>Factionfagging
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>>97982998
Switch LotD with MM and move DAngels to bitch tier, and I'll agree with you fully.
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>>97983000
A 5x kit of not-chaos marines with patches of fur and belts, is absolute garbage. And the worst part is the mk2/mk3 parts use the old designs rather than the updated ones for whatever reason.

It is genuinely a terrible worthless kit for a faction that didn't need anything but shoulder pads, which they also managed to screw up with one of the worst upgrade kits ever conceived.
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>>97983014
>MM
>people with refined taste
M&Ms are the niggers of marines. Anyone with taste doesn't play them.
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>>97983019
They're sexy?
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>>97983018
>And the worst part is the mk2/mk3 parts use the old designs rather than the updated ones for whatever reason.
That's actually the best part. Nu-mk3 and nu-mk2 look like actual 3rd party slop you find on etsy.
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As someone relatively new to the hobby, would the general consensus be that the new box isn’t a particularly great pickup? So far I’ve just got a small WE force so there’d be no overlap with anything I currently own and I like the idea of buying and painting up a starter set for display purposes but maybe I’d have a better time seeking out an older box in terms of price or just the models.
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>load up a competitive 40k stream
>"GET FUCKED EDMONTON OILERS" is the first thing I hear
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>>97983028
>You must be baiting
>Said the baiter
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>>97983038
Fuck you nigger
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>>97983035
What? Say that in English.
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>>97983028
>Nu-mk3 and nu-mk2 look like actual 3rd party slop you find on etsy
I actually like both though.
:(
I like NuMK3 because LOGH metaphorically beat me over the head to like German stuff so I like Pickelhaubes now.
NuMk2 seems fine to me.
This doesn't mean I hate the original designs.

Admittedly I am undecided on the phobos boltguns as I am iffy on the magazines of boltguns with exposed bolter rounds. One lasgun shot to ignite the casing and the whole mag blows up.
But that's just autism.
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>>97983043
>t. baitnigger
last (you)
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>>97983034
its fine lol, if most of the guys here aren't larpers then they already have forces that have some of these models
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>>97983019
The "dickhead" subfactions are consistently based as fuck.
>MM
>Minotaurs
>Night Lords
>Word Bearers
>>97983013
Insulting other people's factions is one of the best parts of participating in fluff discussion.
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>>97983047
nta but I love nuphobos, possibly my favorite design so far
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>>97982998
one day I'll do spoiler
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>>97983053
>magazine is entirely see through
>has so many bolter rounds in it that there is no space for a spring to push them up
Slop.
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New orks are going to look bizzare next to old orks. Im not sure i like this new small head big body small hands look. The quality looks real nice but i dunno, i think it deviates to much from OG orks. Remind me too much of those shitty AOS orcs.
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>>97983034
the starter set is still good in my opinion. the main issues stem from them being a slight downgrade from the kits they’re updating, or virtually identical to other kits which makes them redundant. its still not a bad price for what you get and gives you a pretty solid force.
that is unless you pick the ork side (you should), then its 100% worth picking up especially as a new player.
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>>97983064
Maybe it doesn't use a spring, and I love the see-through magazine, it looks great.
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>>97983005
In a roundabout way, a lie can move a mountain.
Though it seldom gets it to where you need it.

Truth is a hammer.
You hit them with it again and again, until they change under it's pressure, or die.
Or else, likewise happens to you.
Nature it a realm of contests.
Man seeks to complete an impossible task,
The act is self-justifying, because the work is worthwhile.
And so, base matter transcends itself, and attains purpose.

There are ways to trip yourself and undo your own work.
These are to be avoided.

Speak truly, speak well, and take wise council.
And remember, that speech and council alone are insufficient for the completion of The Great Work.
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>>97983053
From page 36 of the Horus Heresy Rulebook with the Salamander Saturnine Terminators on it the Phobos was in service since the "late Unification Wars."
So how long was the retaking of Terra anyways?
>AI says 600 to 700 years but I doubt it.
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>>97983074
No. Blow it out your ass.
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>>97983080
I have no idea, I don't care about timelines. There is now and then the past is full of myth, lies and misremembering. The future? Bleak.
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>>97982719
nice work spider bro
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>>97983097
Your future? The bleakest.
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>>97983090
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>>97983102
I have a future?
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> >>97981504
>They quite literally have nothing to do with WE organization at all,
Okay but who gives a shit. World eaters shouldn’t even be an organization to begin with. I don’t fucking want world eaters, I want the followers of khorne on the table. I don’t care for your HH slop.
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>>97982673
In a separate upgrade sprue, obviously.
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>>97983127
>standalone intercessor kit drops
>it's the same pushfit but with an extra sprue of heads and arms with special weapons to make nu-tacticals
Imagine
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>>97982545
>literally the same kit but with a couple Mk VII helmets
>not even bolt carbines like they grey hunter kit
There is no way to defend this shit. It's not even a new hat for the Stacey Malibu.
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Marines look like shit. I’ll stick to HH for power armor and buy the Ork half for 40k.
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diffrent colour scheme and all of a sudden the Space Marines dont look so ass anymore
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>>97983151
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>>97983140
Of course there's a black one
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factions for getting drunk at 3am even though you have a shift the next day?
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>>97983140
Look how good that bolter proportions look. Genocide to bolt rifles.
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>>97983159
Crimson fists hell yeah.
Maybe Pedro will come with a CF upgrade sprue
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>>97983164
It does make more sense for space wolves to have black marines.
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>>97983172
WE
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>>97983151
>>97983159
>three different chapters represented to show off the new space marine models
>generic goffs only for the new ork models
why though?
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I have never collected Marines in all the time I have played the game as a Xenos only. Do you think like a month after the Armageddon set launches I could find a few Marine halves for cheap? And is everything in that box enough of a staple that a list could use multiple?
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>>97983169
Leagues of Votoms
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>>97983159
>CAPTAIN LOOK OUT
>THERES A GROT WITH A BLASTA BEHIND YOU
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>>97983180
not true
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>>97983180
No, go check the Ork reveals page and there's some
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>>97983183
JIGOKU WO MIREBA
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>>97983186
wtf there's like three gretch behind them, sneaky gits
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>>97983171
What would make a CF upgrade sprue different from the IF upgrade sprue?
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>>97983180
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>>97983198
I think the thing that bugs me about that walker is that it doesn't have a face
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>>97983196
They don't have to be different, back in the day a CF upgrade sprue was sold and could also be used for IF.

I'd guess ork trophies and extra beakies for CF
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>>97983207
>I'd guess ork trophies and extra beakies for CF
Alright, I'm sold on it.
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>>97983189
>>97983190
>>97983198
my bad. very happy to see our boyz in blue getting attention.
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>>97983207
Damn these look rough but SOVLFUL
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>>97983080
Depending on the source, it began late M29 or early M30, ending in 712.M30. Have to remember that the Emperor started from scratch.
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>>97983189
this is the only pic i have seen so far where the rig looks cool. Also orks with tattoos go so much harder
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>>97983196
GW saying they're for CF and swapping a few bits from the IF sprue.
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>>97983218
What's extra sovl is that it's 4 kits that you can buy individually and you're not buying extra bits you'll never use.
Want more shoulder pads for your marines? Sorry, you're getting everything, enjoy the same 5 shitty bare heads everytime you need more shoulder pads
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>>97983204
I can see one every easily
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>>97983245
kino now give it little tyranno hands
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>>97982832
The Tyranids half of Leviathan was the best half of any starter set ever made for 40k honestly.
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>>97983262
Replace the big gun with a drill while at it.
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>>97983279
At that point you just have a deff dread
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>>97983140
even the grey hunters are a step down from what they used to be.

new models are so fucking bland. theres no ornamentation anymore, no identity, everything is so spartan and stripped down even on what are supposed to be chapter specific models that should be able to go all out with the decorations and iconography. they dont even have their iconic double sided chainswords anymore except for ragnar. just repose the same intercessor/gravis CAD file over and over again and dont do anything special for it.

fucking pathetic
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>>97983279
ttgl fucking sucks
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>>97983270
Dark vengeance was great
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>>97983147
Based
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this will be remembered as findly as black reach, if not more so in 5 years time. screencap this
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>>97983291
Yes, but it still has a few fun bits in it.
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>>97983293
Oh true, the Chaos side in particular, yeah that's a contender
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>>97983291
Being contrarian isn't a personality
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>>97983310
Watch more and better mecha newfag
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>>97983300
No it won't. Black Reach had a Dreadnought (a proper one not Primarishit) and Terminators.
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>>97982563
It's alright, but there's so much else wrong with the primaris design, it's hardly going to save it.
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>>97983309
The only thing that brings it down are the toes. You know the ones.
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If the dakkarig had just been a new deff dred variant with more guns and less choppy it would have been perfect
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>>97983169
Unironically Nurgle/Death Guard.
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>>97983170
Amen to that, brother.
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>>97983334
Or if it had 4 legs instead of 2

Or if it were on treads
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>>97983322
Cheers, "alright" is a good sign.

I'd like to give the leg a slight flare like the HH models got and alter the abdomen lobster plate, but outside of that there's not much I can do.
I'm keeping the knee fins here to go with the gorget & hip plates, but otherwise they'd be going away along the abdomen plate for a lighter look.

The only things I can think of changing on top of that are the arms and maybe the back of the powerpack, suboden has a nice one with a vent.
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>>97983334
It should have been a mega deff dread
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>>97983346
The fact that it's been like 10 fucking years and there is still zero variation on primaris power packs is one of the many reasons I hate them and hate GW for being such lazy faggots
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>>97983352
Agreed, there is so much kino for Orks in the old Forge World range begging to be done in plastic
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>>97983300
marine side is too mediocre for it to be universally remembered fondly.
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>>97983355
Amen. Beside Suboden the only PP I can think that I'd count as variation would be the Black Templar Sword Brethren (the gribbles are different) and the BT champions, who have a mk7 like top which I find really cool.
The unique BT champion mini had a cool mk7-X like armor, more so than the regular champion.
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>>97983358
>Should we do a mega dredd?
>a looted wagon?
>a kill tank?
>grot tanks?
>chinork?
>No, make a walker with a big gun lol
At least they remade the trakk, after ~3 decades
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>>97982569
>Am I the only one who likes the new marine stuff?
Probably not, but they're just so bland. It's nice they toned down the crested knee pads and I can live with the chest plate on chest plate and even the hub caps if I have to, but the backpack just kills the look; never mind the dinner plate in the middle of it, the silhouette just ruins the aesthetic, it looks like it was rounded off to be safe for children.
The Mk8 helmet looks so much better, but still not as good as the Mk7.
I can't help but feel that GW is slowly and reluctantly coming round to the idea that primaris just don't look as good as the Mk7s.
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>>97983352
It feels like an obvious lay up to do these units since Orks are getting the Starter Set buff this edition.
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>>97983367
The BTs release in general was by far the most soulful one we got outside of Horus Heresy since before Primaris
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>>97983377
>but the backpack just kills the look; never mind the dinner plate in the middle of it, the silhouette just ruins the aesthetic, it looks like it was rounded off to be safe for children.
Finally someone else put it into words.

Every time I see this it murders Primaris models for me. That and the stupid round ankle bulbs are the worst.
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>>97983375
I would have loved the return of looted wagons, but the dakkarig is a nice addition to "things a mek wants to drive"
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It's not just me right?

>>97983334
I am mulling over potential kit-bashes. I think putting the top as a large turret on an undersized veichle would convey the proper mek-madness while still staying within the same base size.
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>>97983377
>I can't help but feel that GW is slowly and reluctantly coming round to the idea that primaris just don't look as good as the Mk7s.
I think they've known for awhile, it just takes like 3-4 years for models to come out from the time they start them.
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>>97982569
I don't care much about loyalist marines, but as far as that sorta thing I don't hate it
My biggest gripes with the marine side stuff is
>Every unhelmeted head is just awful looking
>The gun shields on the heavy bolter guys look terrible
>The Landspeeder is an extremely unexciting centerpiece model
I actually really like Land Speeder and I wish there was a Chaos Land Speeder, but compared to something like a dreadnaught it just doesn't have that 'Wow factor'.
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>>97983397
Amen. They are pretty nice and if I didn't have two armies to finish first I'd pick some BTs up.

Since the new helbrecht has an helmeted option I'd love to grab him as a generic Senechal/Castellan and convert my own helbrecht from the numk2 HH marines, based on the old sketch of him.
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>>97983410
thats the point anon, they were always clowning on British lads culture.
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>>97983420
>british lads
Nope, hooligans, which is part of the greater archetype of "violence for the sake of violence", hence references to bikers, nazis, pillagers (mongols), mad max, etc.
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>>97983412
The problem with chaos is you can't have too many units cross over cuz then you just got spikey loyalist.
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>>97983408
instead of releasing looted wagons, they should release a "lootin' kit", thats just a box of ork sheet metal, spikes, chains and exhaust pipes to slap on anything else in the game.
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>>97983412
>chaos speeders
There was a time where that was possible, in that you could take imperial vehicles.
Originally land speeders were a post heresy thing, but even then they could be looted, now however land speeders were always a thing so why the fuck not?
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>>97983431
nta but at that point either get some plasticard or open fucking blender/zbrush
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They need to release a blood angels-specific intercessors kit
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>>97983315
Your favorite mecha anime is shit.
>>97983300
It's mid.
Guard vs ork would have been worth remembering.
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would alpha legion be considered as an easy faction to paint by a starter boxes standards?
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>>97983463
They're chaos marines and CSM trim filters people, so no.
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>>97983430
Yeah I never understood the bitching from chaos players about land speeders. It makes sense they dont have any left. Chaos are dealing with much worse supply chains in the eye of terror with cobbled together older suits and weapons. They still have rhinos and land raiders because those are ridiculously rugged and easy to maintain, like the AK-47, but land speeders and other anti-graft stuff is really finicky and temperamental and just doesnt last.
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luv me 'Crons, all they need is like two or three colours, then you can spend the rest of the painting time on the actually fun stuff like details
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>Play Space Hulk video game co-op with GF last night to celebrate my birthday.
>We slog out way through six hours of ships and Genestealer hell.
>Have a great time.
>GF ;loves how "stompy" the Terminators are.
>Get home from work today.
>Box of Terminators waiting for me from GF as a surprise gift.

Shit dudes, this is nice.
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>>97983469
ANY demon in the engine would make it work.
GW is at fault 100%.
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>>97983346
To be honest, that vent also sucks. It takes up way too much space and just looks as lazy as the regular domes. Needs removing completely and replacing with some smaller more interesting greebles. The biggest problem is still the silhouette; the lack of vent armour is a good start, but the whole top cover is just too fat and rounded.
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>>97983473
>gf
GET OUT
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>>97983459
We live in the wrong timeline, the peak of the BA tac squad will never be reached again
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>>97983476
That's not how it works anon. Daemon engines are bespoke creations not just "idk we stuck a daemon in this imperial thing and now it's working cuz a wizard did it" that's fucking gay. Chaos should not be 1:1 spiky copies of Imperials because that's fucking BORING.
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>>97983481
I've been here since 2007. God save my soul.
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>>97983487
Screamer variant.
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>>97983493
2006, even. The year I graduated. Fixed.
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>>97983478
It looks easy enough to remove, it's standing on a pretty flat surface. As for the top it could be changed. Marine power packs aren't too complicated, and the mkX ones are the simplest after mk7.
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>>97983291
It is by all means a great show with a few flaws, but just because people on the internet that have only seen like 6 mecha shows and write off the rest of the genre as toy commercials fellate it as the best thing ever doesn't mean it sucks.

>t. the biggest Mek Boy in this thread by a wide margin.
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>>97983484
Makes me glad that I can still build my Grey Knight Strike/Paladin/Purgator/Interceptor squads, as well as my Grey Hunters repurposed as Tacticals. Fuck Wolves.
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>>97983473
>>97983493
>>97983503
Based
t. 2008
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You see, before 95, toy commercial, after 95, eva clone
/a/fags LITERALLY think like this
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>>97983300
What the fuck
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>>97983514
It feels weird thinking I've used this site for 20 years near daily. Outside of the recent hack.
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>>97983517
They be runt's.
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>>97983517
Why are some of the pauldron pure red while some have black outlines?
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>>97983517
Marines have always been taller than boyz in the art
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>>97983525
Because painting all of your models like they came off an assembly line is gay and for homos, personalize your niggas.
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>>97983531
That's how you personalize your niggaz?
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>>97983536
You should just have slight variations in color scheme across every model. Different badges, markings, etc.
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>>97983430
I know, and at this point GW has basically stopped doing Loyalist/CSM parity at all anyway, so not like it will ever happen at this point.
I would be pretty much equally satisfied with a Chaos unit that was some kind of Daemon engine Land Speeder equivalent with the same general gameplay purpose and size, even if it wasn't literally a Land Speeder. Could always proxy in a Land Speeder if I felt like it at that point.
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>>97983544
>he doesn’t follow codex-compliant markings
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>>97983544
It's not simply about variation, it's about each dude feeling characterful but not too much as to still feel like a soldier in an army.
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Would you ever get a 40K tattoo?
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>>97983525
Looks like a rimless shoulder pad. No trim to paint.
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>>97983568
I've got a tiny Inquisition rosette on my wrist, no you can't see it.
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>>97983568
No and I've played this game for most of my life
I'm not branding myself with a corporate logo
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>>97983568
No, I find tattoos to be tasteless and silly.
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>>97983553
Literally no one follows those to a T, not even Ultramarines. Especially when out on campaign where they sometimes have to hastily swap out damaged armor parts in between battles, or they add extra ritual paint to honor fallen allies or mark out specialist mixed formations fighting alongside other chapters and Imperial forces.
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>>97983568
Not one inspired by fucking Space Marine 2, that's for sure
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>>97983568
Tattoo = mentally ill, always.
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>>97983576
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>>97982545
I like orks :D
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>>97983568
I’d be worried it would turn out fucked up or I’d grow to dislike it, so no. while on the subject of warhammer tattoos though, here’s this tattoo a guy at my old LGS got.
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Sp... spess org :DDd
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>>97983614
post /yourboyz/
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Genestealer Cults should have child soldiers. On the day of the uprising the whole family would go out to fight as long as they're old enough to carry a gun.

I want genestealer cultist cunny!
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>>97983618
>that posture
GOLEM GET YE GONE
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>>97983648
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>>97983632
the children flee the planet to infect the next
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>>97982545
A space marine kit with only TWO HELMETS?
Huh. Must be a factory error or something.
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>>97983656
Some GSC do this but its not a specific thing for any age group. There are both children and adults going to other worlds and children and adults fighting to the end.
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>>97983568
I have the Imperium aquila as a womb tattoo and a slaanesh symbol under my scrotum.
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>>97983648
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>>97982559
So kino
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It really is baffling how GW drags their feet on Space Marine armor variation and upgrades. So much plastic wasted on bare heads instead of sticking different armor MKs. The new Intercessor kit looks like a step in the right direction, but I think they should go further.
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>>97983676
How is a completely unrealistic modeled scenario "kino" in any sense of the word, it looks retarded as hell.
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>>97983648
speaking of stupid ork stuff, look at this converted wheel barrow these crackheads were using as a wagon to attach to their bikes. inventive gits they are.
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God I can't wait to see the thread in the wake of the collage.
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>>97983575
No, they have trims. One marine even has both, I think it's to try and make them look more ad hoc
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>>97983300
>this will be remembered as findly as black reach
The price will determine that. If GW had true business acumen they would take a loss on this, as the long-term gains of onboarding players would greatly cover the losses.
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>>97983559
FUCK YOU I want that kit so fuckin bad
why can't they release a box with cool BA bits?
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>>97983462
>Guard vs ork would have been worth remembering.
AHAHAHAHAHA
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>>97983673
I have models, so it doesn’t quite apply to me, but I’ve definitely had my fair share of close calls. I was helping an elderly woman clean out her house, and found a pile of hershey’s kisses eaten away by maggots. the smell was absolutely horrific!
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>>97983711
Nah it will be people making fun of you and you melting down like a grade school kid. You know, the usual, but amplified like 100 times
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>>97983648
I can't wait to see the collage. Be it today or tomorrow.
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>>97983711
>it will just be me pitching a fit
FTFY
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>>97983706
These are unfortunately not mine, I took a hobby break around 2013 and missed that kit. If it ever goes MtO I'm picking up 2 or 3.

>why can't they release a box with cool BA bits?
Because they are lazy incompetent greedy monkeys. Now all of their talented designers have fucked off/retired, but we are wiser today and I'm sure we can fill the gap they left. And when that is done we can surpass them.
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>>97983656
Those are the fifth gen full gennies.
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>>97983696
Not all of them have trim. But the one with the pistol does. It was just hard to make out from the tiny image.
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>>97983707
objectively, a new edition box set that didn’t have marines shoehorned in would be worth remembering because it would be a complete breakaway from established norms. also yes, its pretty obvious from the marine side of this set that GW has nothing new to offer for marines, so if they were to actually do guard (who have plenty of models in need of refreshing) it would be a far better box set than what we currently have.
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>>97983300
I bet it costs three times as much as black reach.
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>>97983724
Those shoulderpads are part of the same piece as the arm, aren't they.
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>>97983725
remembered as the worst selling starter box of all time because nobody but subhuman NPCs want to buy into guard
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>>97983731
It's a starter set. Of course they're all EtB.
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>>97983731
They are ETB models, so yes.
Just wait for the multipart kit.
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>>97983724
Nigga I was asking why the trims are not the same colors, sometimes being black sometimes being red, not that some have unpainted trim.

>>97983731
Yes, stream fags confirmed that the pads and arms are one part (would need to look at the stream again to spot the sprues) but that the arms don't have BA details, okay? You can paint them however you like! (please buy)
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>>97983734
did a guard player rape your mom, or is there currently a space marine behind you threatening to murder you if you don’t immediately freak out anytime imperial guard is mentioned?
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>>97983739
Right, I somehow forgot about the shitty pushfit that they do with launch kits.
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>>97983734
They could also do Sisters or Admech vs GSC/Tau or DE
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>>97983725
And nobody would buy it because it's guard and orks.
People buy 40k shit to play marines.
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>>97983744
Calm your schizophrenia and beg to be let back into the historical community instead of plaguing ours
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>>97983711
I don’t know, I’ve seen some low rent people in some low rent houses before, and they don’t do shit like that. here’s a pic I took inside someone’s house to prove it.
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>>97983746
>Admech vs DE
If you wanted to actually bankrupt the company, sure.
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>>97983186
>Nothin' personal, squig
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>>97983711
Then leave
Hating you is thread culture
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>>97982559
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>it's another episode of "marines' equal attention cake is actually good because sales figures"
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>>97983751
guard were part of 40k long before you were even a smear of fluids leaking from your whore mother's asshole!
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>>97983186
>>97983194
>>97983758
Rolling for hit (4+)
Rolling to wound (4+)
Rolling to save (3+)
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>>97983632
>On the day of the uprising the whole family would go out to fight as long as they're old enough to carry a gun.
more likely they'd carry the children not old enough to carry guns with them as well as human shields. GSC are that evil
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You're never topping this
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Rolled 1, 2 = 3 (2d6)

>>97983780
Why isn't the roll working
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>>97983782
we just did
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>>97983743
Mein Neger, I was giving a possible explanation based on a picture for ants. There is no clear indication why. Even back in Index Astartes there's BA with red and black trim. Since BA don't use shoulder trim to signify company, it seems to be entirely up to the painter.
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>>97983782
Dark vengeance was a better set
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>>97983751
>brings up historicals out of no where
definitely a historical player fucking your mom then.>>97983751
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>>97983517
This is why it's so important to fix your posture
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>>97983782
Dark vengeance was better, actually.
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>>97983782
Based. 40k back when it was still made for straight white males
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>>97983793
>>97983797
nope
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Baffling how marinefags will brag about how they mindlessly consoom whatever new slop GW shits out for their army and then turn around and call anybody else an npc. This box proves it doesn't even have to be "new" shit, the pay piggies will just unthinkingly carry out their primary function of spending money regardless.
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>>97983782
Dark Vengeance > Assault on Black Reach
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It may be tradition to split boxes, but why the zog would an Ork player share the marine bits when those things could be kitbashed to be even more Orkz and Orky terrain?
Put some dead marines on the floor painted in space wolf colors, put an Ork head and arm on a marine body or a marine helmet on a boy, kitbash the landspeeder into some shit.
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>>97983806
ENTER
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>>97983797
Making the Marine half explicit Dark Angels sculpts was lame
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>>97983803
>my army gets only 1 new release every 2 years so Iam better than you
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>>97983782
Leviathan is this plus extras, so yeah, it was topped. Decent second place though.
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>>97983810
cause you could buy better bits to kitbash or just buy more ork stuff outright with the $150 you saved by pawing it off.
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>>97983812
>Only the Goyalists got something extra in the limited edition box
Should have had a Chaos Sorcerer in there
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>>97983810
Cuz you runty grot don' kno' you'z kan snag sum moa' teef if ya trade 'em spess muhreen gubbinz for 'em, den you'z kan get ya sum moar snazzy n' killy thingz.

I'z kall it: "Da Orkonomy."
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>>97983819
>I'm buying intercessors again, because Massa say so!
Oink oink
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>>97983806
Crazy how every unique chaos sculpt on this was great
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>>97983829
Would have been cool
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>>97983689
I'm slightly sad I'l be away all week to miss it.
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The only bad 40k starter set was Battle for Macragge
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>>97983806
The green beanie they sold at the same time is the best GW product ever. I still wear it
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>>97983782
Dark Vegeance utterly mogs the fuck out of it into a black hole

>>97983806
Every chaos model here except the Helbrute is like 8/10 minimum AND shit on the ""updated"" versions that would come later, especially the cultists
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>>97983837
>cool terrain
>cool objective in the form of a pilot
>small box
BfM was one of the greatest starter box, instead of 2 combat patrols in a trenchcoat
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>>97983829
>Goyalists
kek Based
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>>97983819
>”my army gets 6 releases every year so I’m better than you!”
>”the rest of you are NPC subhumans!”
>continues eating whatever slop GW serves him
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>>97983806
I have four of those tactical squads, a few of the bike squads and the HQs. Only need the Interrogator Chaplain and a few of the Deathwing squads and I'll be set for DA now. Amazing box.
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>>97983844
>DV CSM
>Those are nice, I can't wait to get new chaos marines in the same style
>fast forward nearly a decade
>clean simple CSM
I don't like the modern kit, it's too clean, it feels childish
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>>97983855
we get cool shit because marinefags eat up every slop release, please don't make fun of their disabilities
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>>97983806
>Muh dangles
AoBR is better because its Your Dudes
Cope
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>>97983837
It was a perfectly fine £40 starter box
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>>97983844
I honestly think that the Dark Vengeance Helbrute mogs the updated version too, only problem with it is that you can't pick your weapon options. If it wasn't for that I would never have bought the standalone Helbure.
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>>97983870
>t. toesucker
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>>97983868
That activates my avocados.
Have they mentioned what the price of this box is going to be yet?
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>>97983878
450 USD
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>>97983837
8th and 9th were way worse
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>>97983880
Don't give them ideas!
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>>97983878
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>>97983806
I just wish this set weren't such a nagging reminder of how boring most starter sets are thematically. Like, even if you take the most fatalistic view of "starter sets MUST always include loyalist marines", this set proves they are willing to at least try doing non-vanilla loyalists, but won't.
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>>97983806
I see so many posts like this showing these models people apparently admire over others but its always pictures of adverts, do any of you retards own and models?
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Just watched the official lore video about the new Iron Warrior lore.
It says that Abaddon will respond to Perturabo's betrayal soon. What can he do to a Daemon Primarch
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>>97983891
They won't do non vanilla marines because pond life like >>97983866 will be upset
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>>97983899
Cry.
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It may or may not be Orky, but Orks could and should develop the ability to have working TV's. Just imagine the endless entretainment that could be broadcasted, from Ork jackass camp that puts their humie prisoners into jackass-type of deadly stunts and laugh as they see a humie get punted into the stratosphere by a trukk, or Animal Planet featuring warboss Squig Irwin taming a great white squig while holding a grot, with Billy Mays-styled advertisements for all the stuff Mekboyz are selling. Hell, wire the TV to a juiced up weirdboy and you'll get an interdimensional broadcast to warhammer fanatsy, or at least just the Blood Bowl channel.
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>>97983899
Abaddon is top dog, not Perturabo
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>>97983912
Pert is larger and therefore should just eat abby
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>>97983870
Fair? but the real issue is...the Helbrute is just dogshit no matter which one we discuss at every point in 40k history, never had a moment to shine imo

It was lame and retarded looking v the retro spikeyness of the classic Chaos Dread when people had not warmed to the 'fleshmetal' design.

It was crap compared to the legendary kino FW legion dreads

The FW Decimator turbo mogs it

The 'Fiends shit on it, even dinobot haters would agree

And the second they made the Primaris dread the Helbrute just looked like a little ugly cuck suit no one would want to buy

I'm kinda mad they updated the Defiler first desu
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>>97982559
Lmao I love it.
Pic is me working with minis I wont be playing with.
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>>97983915
Abaddon is large enough to look a Primarch in the eye. Look at him next to Roboute.
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>>97983891
If at least the "generic" marines were unique minis; that's something people forget about AoBR, even the tacticals had unique bits. The marine side after DV is just worse than what you'll get in the standalone kit, so why buy it?
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>>97983806
Wait why are people saying they like this, whenever I say I think crimson slaughter are cool as fuck I get told world eaters and Tsons are better.
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>>97983793
>>97983797
dark vengeance was fucking dogshit and you're delusional
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>>97983923
Huh?
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>>97983933
Foul heretic brutally frame mogged by the Imperial Regent
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>>97983942
stop ban evading
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>>97983933
Yass, slay short king
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>>97983944
I don't get banned because I am a good boy who respects the rules
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>>97983933
Tactical Rocks to make the 5'11' guy stare the 6'0'' man at eye level
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>>97983944
nta and nobody is evading any bans you ugly shill
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>>97983046
Retard.
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>>97983933
>these two still haven't met yet
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>>97983933
Abby is still huge
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>>97983925
Lorewise I don't really think there's much to the Crimson Slaughter, but model wise the Chaos half of Dark Vengeance is top shit.
I have two sets of the Chaos half I need to get painted up.
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>>97983928
>terminators with poses and wargear
>new bikes after forever
>taticals with plasma and beakies
>two quality HQs
>new chaos units
>one of the best chaos HQs ever
>the best version of the hellbrute
No, you are wrong
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>>97983959
Which is funny because gorrilaman met every other primarch since coming back.
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>>97983959
They haven't? That is retarded seeing how the models are clearly meant to mirror each other
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>>97983964
Bigger than your average marines at best.
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>>97983970
Not including any loyalist marines was an odd choice
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>>97983976
It was the last chance a starter set might ever have anything except vanilla space marines vs villain-of-the-month
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>>97983894
>Not a single (You)
Kek I knew those faggots were just larping.
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>>97983988
they don't even box post they just post adverts, its so fucking disgraceful and the lowest form of convo here.
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>>97983521
Dude, what the fuck? Why are you fucking here, man, you're so old! Where's your wife? Go home to your family, dude.
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>>97983894
>>97983988
I have these along the exclusive chaplain. Have your (you)
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>>97983988
I play CSM and own the CSM side. No I'm not posting photos of my models because a balding fat fuck like you screeches for them. Get fucked.
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>>97983990
shut the fuck up, fecalfag
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>>97983996
>Doesn't post them
okay good luck retard.
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>>97984003
got another GW advert to show us and tell us looks cool you lame dog?
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>>97984002
>larping
>projecting
Okay that checks out.
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>>97984018
Post hairline, jaw and gut.
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>>97983894
not any of them, but to be fair, its still an objectively good set that has since gone out of print, so admiration doesn’t necessarily require owning them especially if they now cost way more than they’re worth because of how OOP prices work. also, if you picked up the box 14 years ago its likely now under a sea of other models you’ve gotten since then, so its far less convenient to dig through your pile of models than to just pull out an image of them which also gives a good idea of what was in the set unlike your models which you split and then took a blurry photo of 14 years after.
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>>97983933
You know that Roboute is standing on rocks?
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>>97984027
nta but you're replying to an obvious baitnigger.
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>>97983988
>>97983990
>have to own every single model and post proof of every single model you talk about
Standard piggy cope
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>>97983975
Remove the rocks at Roboute's feet and measure them
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Why are they called 'Space Marines'?
Shouldn't they be 'Void Marines'? Everything else uses Void instead of Space (ex. voidships)
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>>97984037
It's just a quirk of the translation from Gothic to English, don't worry about it
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>>97982559
Working on some boring intercessors. Highlighting is taking a while.
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>>97984029
>>97984035
Now what?
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>>97984037
Because they're from space
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>>97983723
gw had a whole animated episode about that
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>>97984037
Because the Emperor's name is Jimmy Space, and they are his Space Marines.
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>>97984037
Wouldn't be surprised if the name "space marine" predates rogue trader. GW has tried to get away from it, with Astartes & Primaris, however "Space Marine" is too engrained and recognizable, so while it cannot be protected it's too precious to veer away from.

Also "Marines" refer to the sea anyway, so Space or Void still is stupid
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>>97982559
reposting an oldie of mine
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>>97984022
>Still no model
Okay retard.
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>>97983894
I own 60 Dark Vengeance cultists plus the full chaos side, starting to think about redoing these because I could do a lot better these days.

They are 10000% better than the new cultists and can only be beat by kitbashing your own custom cultists using a combination of Necromunda and AoS models.
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>>97984043
crispy
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>>97984042
>mixing firstborns and primaris in a squad
Based
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>>97984055
>t.Balding Fatass.
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>>97984060
Listen I’ve got like 40 mk2-6 bodies kicking around, gotta use them somehow.
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>>97984043
Low quality and edited by AI
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>>97984022
>>97984063
away with you perryfag
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>>97984071
Bald fat bitch
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>think about something I have to fix with superglue
>can suddenly smell superglue without the bottle being open
thanks brainrot
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>>97983991
I'm here because as much as I hate what it has become, this website is home to me. Traditional forums are all but deal outside of placed like Lead Adventure. Reddit blows major ass, Discord groups are just circlejerks and online grooming gangs. I like coming here, being anonymous, hearing genuine takes and shitposts and shills and knowing it is more real than most places online. The only bad part is people like Fecal and Whiteagle/NiceDaemonette who infest and run rampant with their bad taste and fetishes.
>>97984057
Those cultists are so good. They beat the modern ones and the Blackstone Fortress versions with ease.
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>>97983724
I wonder if you can still select Bolt Rifle type on new Intercessors
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>>97984079
it truly is insane that even with this place being an absolute fucking shithole it's still better than almost everything else on the internet
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>>97983568

Why the fuck not
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>>97984083
I agree. Somehow even post-hack with the site traffic dwindling and the lolcows getting worse and more prolific, it is still the best place to talk about the majority of topics.
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>>97984031
possibly true, but back when I didn’t have any models, I was asking myself the exact same question, so its good to still make it clear what the reasons are for why people don’t necessarily post their models for every boxset they talk about, so any lurker (or a dude who is genuinely asking) can know.
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>>97984069
>Saturday cartoon villian behavior
But of course.
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>>97983568
I'm too hairy for tattoos, and I think getting tattoos of your toy soldiers is cringe
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>>97984079
>>97984083
>>97984089
because other places are either astroturfed to hell with bots/AI, or over-moderated to the point that real discussion cannot exist.
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He's a manlet. A whole head shorter than Girlyman.
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>>97984048
is that the chudjak
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>>97984079
I think the BSF guys are great, but they aren't cultists so much as traitor guard. The DV ones are solid ragtag crazies using just about anything they have been able to steal or get their hands on.
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>>97984083
>>97984079
Unironically, where else would actually be better to talk about wargames or video games with strangers? There simply is no alternative, no matter how bad this site gets every other option is far, far worse.
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>>97984065
Better get some mk7 when they come out to bolster these, those are rookie numbers

>>97984082
Hopefully yes, it's a fun feature. Both phobos carbines and gravis bolt rifles also have that feature, which means you can put a heavy bolt rifle drum magazine on a bolt carbine. I'm tempted to do at some point.
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>>97984101
>>97984093
In Talon of Horus, they compare Horus Reborn with Abaddon. They are said to be identical in every way
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>>97984104
No, thats your reflection from your monitor
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>>97984083
I think it's because here you won't be witch hunted, you don't have to pretend to protect yourself from the mobs of retard, and you don't have to play the retarded social games of narcissists & rats.

The shitty trolls are easy to dodge. This place is actually pretty fucking great.
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>>97984117
You might as well read BL novels instead of BL novels.
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>>97984097
Yeah. For the most part that is how this site has always been. The jannies and mods come and go, but the overall freedom sticks around. Sure, some things are taboo and rightfully so but overall if you follow the global rules you can have a good time here.
>>97984105
The BSF ones felt a bit too uniform to me compared to the DV ones. The modern ones with pistol and melee only make me sad. Cultists with rifles, grenades and stubbers should still be a thing outside of Legends.
>>97984106
The fact you do not have to have an account and play cult of personality nonsense games or have upvotes or downvotes or karma or any of that social engineering shit is a blessing. The tripfags and the retards posting face pics and talking about their gender/not being proper anons is very ridiculous, but they have quieted down since they started that discord. Or they just learned nobody gives a fuck about any of that and we just want to talk about overpriced plastic miniatures and badly written space soap operas. Now if only Fecal would fuck off to Spacebattles or Reddit or anywhere else.
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>>97984126
This is Decalfags cue to talk about how he's been witch hunted.
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Can we have a conversation about the overabundance of tactical rocks on every model nowadays
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collage when
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>>97984129
>Now if only Fecal would fuck off to Spacebattles or Reddit or anywhere else.
I’ve noticed he’s started to post less and less frequently, so to be hopeful I think he might be getting tired of getting banned so quickly.
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>>97984135
he's not following the rules, both written and unwritten ones, people like that are exceptions
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>>97984136
I feel like we've had that discussion over 9000 times, but sure, we can go over it again.
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>you're winning the match
>opponent does this to your models
what do you do?
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I don’t like how tall primarchs are. The idea of a freakishly tall dude in a sea of already really tall dudes is really lame to me.
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>>97984146
We can only hope. It is refreshing to be able to discuss things without him crowing and crying in equal measure.
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>>97984152
>great unclean one enters the battle



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