Does masculinity exist as a concept in your games. I mean in an actual unadulterated form?
>>97985966I swear to m00t, you better be sliding a puckee thread.
>>97985966Well yeah, pretty much.Might makes right, and women are only attracted to strong Chads. In settings where guys can accumulate massive amounts of personal power without having to rely on technology or equipment, that kind of 'strongest man rules' just makes sense.
>>97985993>Might makes rightSay I tell you the sky is green. What color's the sky?
>>97985993https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo9buo9Mtos
>>97986007How hard will you beat me if I say it's blue?
>>97986018In this hypothetical, severely. For I am a crazed but powerful zealot.
>>97986029THE SKY IS GREEN AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN GREENHAIL THE LORD OF GREEN SKIES
>>97985966This nigga is gay and wants to see MANLY MEN
>>97986031I kind of get where he's coming from. It's like, a lot of stories feature the soft, unthreatening kind of guy as a protagonist and it feels very lame.Hell, if you've read romantasy novels, that's not even what women want. The best-selling slop (like the Poet-Empress, or The Knight and the Moth) have the male love interests basically be dudes who have personally killed dozens of people.
>>97986040Yeah I agree with that whole sentiment. I'm fed up with basedboys too. I was only having a kek
>>97985993No one wants to hear about how much you love "chad" cock.
>>97986064It's funny how your mind immediately leapt to sucking a man's cock, when a normal guy would think "I can BE Chad."
>>97986060>I'm fed up with basedboys too No way mods banned "S O Y" here too? LMFAO FAGS
>>97986072More like you think about being in chad.
>>97986072He's a terminal bottom lol
>>97986029
Fantasy worlds are not written to be masculine. They always assume women are superior magic users. Look at Dungeons & Dragons (particularly the Forgotten Realms). Look at Dark Souls and Elden Ring. The magic is always female or some feminine force. This is a consequence of writers being male and wanting to see women as more magical and special than they are within fantasy. Even though men were the ones poking at the mysteries of the world. It’s a form of projection. “Oh my god nature is so beautiful it’s like a woman!”. Fuck off.
>>97986125This is mostly because they're trying to make women useful in some way, without putting them at risk of physical injury.I think one book that bucks the trend is the Second Apocalypse, there are no female warriors and women are treated the way you'd expect in a Bronze Age society.
>>97986125Females projection at nature is more so accurate. Nature is brutal and unforgiving and it will fucking rape you in the ass. It’s a Man. Not that a woman can’t be a total cunt.
>>97986125>taking FROMslop as exemplaryJesus Christ, holy zoomer post. An extremely derivative and woke series as recent as that does not enter into the conversation.
>>97985966Yes, in every species with sexual dimorfism related to reproduction. In my setting elves have a quasi-sexual dimorfism, not for reproduction (they just spawn from the forest), but because their god thought the differences between sexes beautiful. The female ones can become human though, if impregnated by humans.
>>97986125>>97986204What’s fucking woke about fromslop? It’s slop not woke.
>>97985966What is and isn't masculine depends on the culture.
>>97986089You wish.
>>97986073It's a global filter.
>>97985966Traditional games?
>>97986073Fuck off newfag.
>>97985966yes, our fantasy world wemon only exist for breeding and are restricted to breeding farms. every town and city is filled with nothing but men. buff men, twink men, oily men, hairy men, all man all the time. butt sex is haneded out like candy and in our camping we are all humans actively killing off all other species to help create a homogeneous gay ethno state.
>>97985966Yes, its point costs are listed under Performance Art -> Interpretative Dance
>>97986253Women are smarter and more magical than men in ER
>>97986125>Fantasy worlds are not written to be masculineSo sword and sorcerery, grimdark, Mythic, sword and sandals, etc. generas of fantasy just don't exist to you or something?
>>97987191In what way?From what I remember basically everything was going to shit and everyone was a failure that needed the MC to fix the world.It's a dying world that is begging to be laid to rest but can't because of reasons. Man woman and other all are doomed fuckups who will rot and go mad unless the protag does something. If they aren't already rotten and mad, which the vast majority are.So no. Women aren't more wise or whatever the fuck compared to men. They are retarded failures too. Some of them float around because it makes looking at their bare feet easier, lol.
>>97987246The masculine stars: 43/52/60 intelligenceThe feminine moons: 68/70/72 intelligence Rennala barged into a men’s magic club and declared looking into space to be gay and navel gazing at the moon to be good. Imagine if some Wiccan kicked out all of the brightest scientists at NASA and then shifted their education. Oh and her IQ is also the highest.
>>97987246The masculine sun was displaced by a feminine tree lol.
>>97987308>no male was smart enough to see the moon k e k Bravo Femiyazaki
>>97987070So you are a nogames and a huge faggot.
>>97986563Lurk more. /tg/ isn't just for games.
>>97987308Stars are foundational. An origin point. The moon is conjunctive. An end point.
>>97985966Does it in real life?
>>97985966Yes, in the ancient greek sense of "smaller penis = more masculine".
>>97985966Unadulterated masculinity is relaxed, confident and secure. It has nothing to prove, it is usually quiet outside of a crisis.The skilled carpenter who can fell his own wood, who lives a quiet life on the edge of the village with his beloved wife for decades, raising his kids, helping them get set up, looking after the grandkids all as he develops a reliable reputation as the guy who can build and fix anything wooden, who's repaired every house at one time or another, known by all as a dependable rugged man who loves a fine ale after a hard day's work is experiencing unadulterated masculinity.An influencer with no hobbies, no family, no fucking life outside of trying to prove he's the alpha dog and you should buy his hollow life is a pathetic shell chasing masculinity with no ability to ever understand it. The man who craves power simply to have it, not because nobody else is fixing the community, is also an insecure chaser.Two thirds of our worlds problems come from the fact that these insecure chasers see one another, and because they have no concept of masculinity go "Ah another gigachad like me" and start networking and shaking hands and forming a class of power-holding wimps with the emotional maturity of a toddler.
>>97985966Masculinity can only exist as the byproduct of becoming confident in your abilities to do something. You cannot pursue masculinity itself directly.
I run the most hypermasculine possible. That's why the men in it understand that women are inferior in every respect and lack the basic intellectual and emotional capability of men to such a degree that they are incapable of true love. For TRVE LOVE you must find a twink with curly haired and alabaster skin like the noblest statuary, teach him rhetoric statecraft, philosophy and military strategy before you write him hypermasculine love poetry and oil up his thighs.
>>97986253>just climb in the coffin an you gender will be changed!!
>>97992988Nigga you gay
>>97993017A weak and effeminate Parthian is behind this post. A barbarian will get henpecked by their wife then pretend a bithynian hoplite with blond curls and freckles isn't masculine.
>>97993151Yeah this nigga gay
I play Deathwatch so the players are all space marines. Very masculine but in a way completely divorced from sexuality.
>>97987308>Oh and her IQ is also the highest.Doubtful, considering the two founders are made of the stuff of sorcery and indeed magic itself.
>>97985966It's more implicit than explicit, because reading books on the subject of masculinity isn't a very adventurer-y passtime.Adventurers are more "Praxis" oriented.They're they guy you see cited in said book.
>>97985966You want to know if a social construct is present in collaborative game-fiction in an in-universe concrete form? Like, as a stat? Or as a character?
Femboys are considered a rare "ascended gender". They are the kings, high priests, and court magicians. Traditional masculinity ate the loyal guards and women the artisans.The gods are thought to cross dress
>>97986201>Nature is brutal and unforgivingYeah so a woman then.
>>97985966We play Runequest, from aloof purity of Dayzatar to primal savagery of Zorak Zoran it has it all.
>>97992988So you are far too retarded play tabletop games and a huge faggot.
>>97995008Says the guy who likes the taste of dick
>>97999905Nah that just you, Sir Fagalot.
>>98000235>projecting You can’t turn me gay, you gay retard.
>>97985974Who is moot
>>97986125>They always assume women are superior magic users. Look at Dungeons & DragonsFucking what? What kind of retardation is this
>>98001836one of the old 4chan mascots, like longcat, or pedobear
>>97986125you come off as a closet fag
>>97986125Gardnerian Wicca Woo-Woo.
>>97986125They hated him cause he was right.
>>98004960Ehh it's more accurate for stuff like wheel of time and sword of truth
>>98005579But he's telling the truth. I always found it weird how both in the roleplay and technology space, a lot of the guys like to write "her" as the default gender for specific things. And I realized it was because of their projection of being the typical "women are great' mentality. Which explains why nerd spaces got hit so hard by liberal and feminist policies.
>>97986007do you think "right" means "correct" in that sentence?
>>97986040well yeah, obviously. those stories aren't written for women, so why would the protag be designed to appeal to women?
>>97989568Yes it is.
>>98001844Magic is literally a woman in Dee en Dee and you can even FUCK her if she lets you :^)
>>98004740This is the funniest part of the origins of Wicca to me. It was never some ancient religion. At best it repurposed ancient or antiquated ideas. But it was started by a horny and perverted old man.
>>97986125>>98005635It could also be for balancing reasons. Males = strength Women = magic
>>97986125>“Oh my god nature is so beautiful it’s like a woman!”Aren’t male animals frequently the more beautiful in nature? We’ve become blind to it because we (men) are all attracted to women for the most part, and because of this we refrain from seeing ourselves as the more beautiful sex, especially due to fears of being called a homosexual.
>>98008128The greatest wizards in D&D lore have been men.
>>98008233In the Forgotten Realms the strongest spellcasters are women not men.
>>98008243>forgotten realmsThere's your problem.
>>98008251I’m sorry it’s Ed Greenwood’s fetish to be dominated by a big breasted sorceress
>>98008279Among many, many others.
>>98007011Ethics and Morality are downstream of Logic and Reason, as well as Objectivity. Might is no more capable of making things wrong or right than it is changing the color of the sky.
>>98001836THERE IS NO M00T BUT M00T AND SNAX KS HIS PROPHET! PURGE THE INFIDEL!
>>98008279considering how he looked, not surprised.
>>98005579>Wheel of time>Two sex based magics (shhh book readers)>Different but equal>Entire plot of the books is women are retarded and fucking up thet last battle which is why A MAN is needed, and not just ANY MAN, THE FUCKING DRAGON REBORN, and in fact the best women mages in that entire series are ones who learn to be soft and submissive and get married (nyn, morraine, siuan, even alanna). The worst female mage, is the opposite of that and Eggy gets her ass killed for not doing it.
>>98008626Unfortunately right and wrong are academic concepts in the face of violence, or might. The fly's morality means nothing to the spider, for it is simply mightier.
>>98001831That is because you are one, retard fag
>>98008251Yeah, you have brain damage.
>>98001836Some skinny dork who unironically got groomed by Jeffrey Epstein in 2011.
Sodomy and buggery.
>>98007022I meanWho's the target audience for the unthreatening numale protagonist? Not being facetious, who actually wants that?
>>98005635I always thought it was just players who speak languages like spanish, french and german where words come with gender pronouns attached to them
>>9798596First World Problem: Zeta Male FearLack of masculinity being named out loud in an rpg session. The need for oiled Greek digital abs on half-nekkid pederastic "men" ...>>97985993Dickless incel talking about strength and what women are attracted to. Pure 4chan.
>>98010805None of those were a huge part of the tabletop scene in america. It was entirely from americans.
>>97985966>I mean in an actual unadulterated form?as in, woodworking, fishing and playing with model trains? fuck yeah I love genuine masculinityor do you mean some homoerotic fantasy for dudes who romanticize war and spend way too much time "mirin" the """"aesthetics"""" of oiled up muscular torsos?
>>98011302>it's gay to perfect the body god gifted youJust say you're a pussy who would be afraid to do any kind of violence. We get it.
>>98008626So were you going to answer what I asked?
>>98010582Why do you think the protagonist in fiction for women is always an utterly forgettable blank slate with barely any personality or distinguishing characteristics? Think hard.
>>97985966Yes
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>>98010857I really don't get why you're so upset about this. Is something about this making you feel attacked?
>>98008626>Ethics and Morality are downstream of Logic and ReasonIt's the exact other way around. If you weren't capable of making value judgements, you wouldn't have anything to be logical about.
>>98008626so were you going to answer what I asked?
>>98008626well?
>>98008626No, morality comes from preference and emotion, and ultimately from biology, and there is nothing rational about it in the slightest, except in the sense that it happened to improve survival fitness. It is not rational in the sense of conscious reasoning.
>>97985966No. I play Symbaroum.
>>98021545Ruined/tainted by 5e
