Are the Clans Furries?
>>97986933Nah, but like most things furries invaded and trying to gaslight that it was always furry/gay/etc. I swear fags/furries/commies/etc have the same MO. Anything try to take over anything popular, purge the "old guard", then say it was always woke or whatever the term is, even when they admitted they need to modernize it and change everything. (Look at D&D if you need a example. Basically shat on the creators and in the fucking same breath the people there will act like their were lifelong fans of the game and all.)
>>97986971You mean like the alt-right keeps trying to gaslight that TT was always a bastion of Nordic masculinist heterosexuality and that woke Marxist reptoids took over the industry and the fandom and now you're going to fight back by making Youtube videos of Cillian Murphy in Peaky Blinders and Gulf War footage to MGMT's Little Dark Age and subtitle it THIS IS WHAT THEY TOOK FROM US?
>ITT: /pol/brained morons discovering that people in general have tinted lenses towards their believes and generally suffer from both a hero and a victim syndrome.
>>97987102beliefs*I made a minor typo and now I MUST kill myself and my opinion is invalidated. Sasuga /pol/tards, you win this one.
>>97986971Nothing furry here, nope, no sir
>>97987044Well, let's ask this. Is the new shit even selling? Or is it expected to sell 100s maybe 1000s rather than millions. Cause you can't just keep pushing slop no one buys, reads, or watches. You could be one of the biggest IPs in the world. If the product, media, etc is shit. That old stuff can't cover it up forever. Look at Star Wars and Star Trek if you need proof of what I am saying.
>>97986971the clans WERE always gay though>>97987145we can grant that the modern mass-production products are shit, but isnt it also fair that we also ask the corollary? where are the alt-right games? even assuming there's a global conspiracy to supress these at a mass-market/venture capital level, where are the underground releases? furries and trannies and even more distasteful niche minorities produce new games every day. you can find full lizard furry vore games on steam. there's a yearly bara jam, and 2025 had 16 submissions made in a two month window. if there are millions of conservatives dying for a game that matches their interests, where is it? why havent any of the millions tried?
>>97987044Nice bait. The “alt right” is dead, that movement was already dying by Cville, Dickie Spencer was gay. We’re just Nazis now. Also this is shit that’s never happened. No one has ever said this ever lol. I’m an actual heckin ebil Nazi, I have ever reason to lie about this. Tabletop gaming (and “geek culture” if you will) was largely apolitical, or broadly Ron Paul Libertarian. I remember some of the guys I used to play with being into Ayn Rand. There were no leftists. Leftists in the 90s thought nerd shit was mindless materialist consumerism at best, or latent fascist power fantasies at worst. There were some commies involved in the creation side of things, but there views weren’t representative of the fanbase.
>>97987044Chudbros...Are we really so transparent?
>>97986933No, their IT security isn't good enough for that.
>>97987302I am both by the way but agree on the first comment. The clans were always some gay shit to change things up in the story and all.As for where are the "non-woke" games and media.We seen a few good ones, I mean look at Expedition 33, Pragmata, Doom, Crimson Desert, etc. Oh, are they supposed to be as annoying with their messaging as the woke left? Also the left might make their woke shit but they rarely support them. Most of those furry and tranny games barely make money. So saying that the queers made a shitty unreal game for 20 bucks that 1000 people bought and played for an hour isn't much of a flex.
>>97986971>Pic related>>97987339>There were no leftists.>Ignore Jennell Jaquays
>>97987396???? What does that prove again? Oh they made a falcon mask and cape makes them furry? Don't you have to have sex with animals or at least art of yourself doing so to be a furry? Again you're proving my point that they find one thing to say is furry/gay/marxist and then push the whole thing is. Yes it's a gay and lame group. Though they don't fuck the falcons to death for the feathers now.
>>97987339you know the original series of star treck ran in 1966 right? TNG aired in 87. you're telling the the 90s had ZERO socially progressive nerds in fantasy spaces? because it's not exactly hard to find evidence to the contrary...>>97987378>Expedition 33, Pragmata, never played it, no comment>Doom not sure how "right" it is ideologically, and its bethesda right? vivec was heroically sucking dick in morrowind, not exactly a purist chud company>Crimson Desertthe first i heard of this game was yesterday when people were bitching about AI assets in it. raises a good question though-you have all these "nonwoke" AAA video games being made, so where are the ttrpgs?on a different note, i already granted that woke games are bad, you can have that one for free. i dont expect niche shit made by hobbyists and released for free to be masterpieces, let alone profitable, but... why are you holding up profitability as a virtue to pursue? i genuinely dont understand how it ties into my percieved lack of chud TTRPGS, i dont care if they're popular or commercially successful, im curious why there arent any in the first place. even if they failed people making them would be evidence that someone cares about it somewhere right? thats all im interested in
>>97987302Obviously (((they))) are choking the publishing pipeline to prevent all the based, trad and national socialist TTRPGs and wargames from being released because they fear the cultural Gesundbrunnen that would manifest in the white race if such a thing ever came to pass.
>>97987339Was the alt right ever even a real thing? It Sprang out of nowhere to pull all the attention to the Extreme right wing whatever and then it fizzled out without ever accomplishing something when media attention was needed elsewhere.
>>97987451ACKS and C&C are big TTRPGs. As well as Sword World if you want to count Japan's biggest TTRPG.
>>97987455Got to love the why haven't you made a NEW Based Disney like it should happen overnight. I mean, Based media is growing but takes time, to be fair most people haven't even started to break off till the 2020s. We seen many great new IP but yeah they're not going to be hollywood big overnight. Especially since we know the current groups running aren't going to want less than full control over an IP. (Which has been a thing forever now.) However you got Rippaverse Godsend Comics and Kamen America for comics. Games like ACKS, and C&C. I mean, it's growing but yeah it not going to be as big as the 100 year old companies in a few years now.
>>97987456Nope, it was just the left paying a few people to act racist or something than blame it on the right, and give it a new name and all. That's what the SPLC got in trouble with when they were paying the KKK and other "racist" groups and their leadership so they can have something to cry racism at. Like the FBI and their "Assets" during Jan 6.
>>97987396>>97987451I said there were no leftists in my experience, eat the rich Marxists, communists, that kind of thing. I never heard anyone call themselves “progressive” politics didn’t come up much besides the odd “billClinton got a blowjob” quip. both of you are completely illiterate, and ignored the last part of my post. There were leftists in the creative process, that goes back to Moorcock. Star Trek is an odd example, most people thought of Star Trek as just post war American culture (race blind meritocracy and all) it wasn’t thought of as a left wing thing. Trekkies I knew all had “the fountainhead” on there bookshelf. And yeah in comics Moore and Gaiman. There views did not represent the average fan or their work, or the average “geek” in general. Most people were “libertarian” ish, some definitely voted Democrat, or had a gay friend im sure, but they weren’t that concerned with politics.
>>97987455the jews will break into your house and smash up your computer if you self-host a website with "racial holy war" on it? because like, a basic google brings up two download links for it in the first thee search results. it's one thing to say that about AAA videogames or hollywood movies, but the barrier to entry here is owning a pen, paper and maybe a library card so you can use a printer/scanner. there are 5e cracks being made in prisons and psych wards, surely the right ought to be producing more dont you think?>>97987465I havent played ACKS so ill take your word for it, but also its OSR so... eww. i dont actually know C&C. i also havent played sword world, so ill leave it up to you to decide how closely a japanese game from the late 90s upholds modern conservative valuesim not saying there arent any, there's a good five or ten that are infamous. the kicker is noone is playing or reccomending them
>>97987505The problem is between OG Trek and TNG they had a bunch of woke writers add commie shit into the lore and story, and it got worse and worse as time went on. The Marxists came in and changed it slowly from a Libertarian idea to a marxist idea that often look for one or two things to count it as a "IT WAS ALWAYS WOKE" and all. Like what >>97987396 tried to do for the clans just now. Remember the idea of Star Trek was the old west in Space. Not commie BS.
>>97987517Same can be said about leftist ones. Do you think people are really playing Daggerheart. People have been shitting on it for being bad, same can be said with 5.5/ONE/whatever they calling Woke DND. I mean they dropping it and making 6e kind of screams that it was a massive failure now.
>>97987517I know you’re just posting bait but Most Right wing people don’t need everything to constantly remind them that there political views are correct, even among the extreme fringe Natsoc weirdos I know,they play regular games, they ain’t trying to play as George Lincoln Rockwell riding around in the hatebus, or characters from the turner diaries lmao. Most right wing people (or people you’d consider right wing, because of your views) just want good games, good mechanics that type of thing. Outside of extremely, extremely fringe Siegetard larpers. or the odd terminally online grouch who hates everything , right leaning people are generally less interested in propagating there views. Commies have been getting involved in entertainment for forever. They get involved in all aspects of society.
>>97987505>I never heard anyone call themselves “progressive”did anyone even say progressive before 2010? the label isnt my point though. i think that these works, even if the better label is something like "classical liberal", stand out as socially progressive. the works are still relatively left wing when viewed in a modern context. I think that if we're specifically assigning modern binary politics to these works, they would fall into the progressive category, and their creators would have been considered left wing and socially progressive at the time, had those been the words in use. especially since the current right-wing hills to die on seem to be immigration and trans rights, when OG treck had that ultra-progressive first black woman thing, and TNG had dudes walking around in skirts in it's first episodeI think that lefties were prominent in these spaces, and i point to high profile lefties creating works in these spaces as evidence of that. i dont think it was how it is now, culture has changed (for the better), but i think they were there. also, i dont think you've fairly classified "left wing" by restricting it entirely to eat the rich protestors and marxists>>97987526>Do you think people are really playing Daggerheartno, i dont give a shit about critical role or 5e hacks. fuck dagger heart. but people ARE playing lancer, and VTM5, and 5e. They're playing deltarune and baldur's gate. 67000 are playing stardew valley right now, and over 40k are playing overwatch for some godforsaken reason. in fact, people are playing 40k and AOS (also for some godforsaken reason). woke projects fail, sure, but projects dont fail BECAUSE they're woke. many of the greatest successes of this decade have been after all. and my point isnt that left wing games are "better" in the first place. i just want to know where the chud TTRPGs are. i dont care if morkborg or myfarog or whatever failed, i just want to know why there are more sword-lesbians and QUEERZ
>>97987541(First of all. Don't out the trolling now. That's like commenting that Wresting is fake. Ruins the mood we are happy with good games that aren't shitting on us. They don't need it to scream USA or our political views for us to buy it just be good and not have the creators publicly say they hate us and want us dead, and second... *Puts on a MAGA hat and grabs American Flag for the bit.*) I want a game with Trump on a T-Rex killing Commies and Nazis while eating Big Macs and Booze for health items.... If we don't the left will win. (One of the biggest things causing the change is them double and tripling down on their woke shit to the point even the normies noticed and call it out, to the point more and more people can see if it woke slop just by looking at the show/game/etc.)
>>97987602Do people playing Stardew Valley for the story, or for the farm gameplay loop and all? As for Overwatch wasn't it tanking especially after Rival ate it's lunch to the point they had to make more characters and not be shit cause they were on top.As for those woke TTRPGs. They were given free money to make them. They often given grants for that shit by Blackrock and Vanguard. Hints why they made a shitty game that good enough to justify the "cost" and fuck off to the sunset unless they think they can pull off another "con." Also I lean towards the hollywood writer you see 2016+ for leftist. (Those people who were writing the "Not-Trump" stole the election, or going to kill group "A" "B" "C" and all like we seen since 2018 till today. Which was funny when people called out shit about 2020 even though it was a troupe for 2 years in media.)
>>97987541im seeing this more and more lately, and i think you're copingyou've tried to weld your own position onto some silent majority so that you can claim anything neutral or even just not explicitly progressive is a "conservative win". the main issue i see with that is that most if not all works are somewhat political and the creators have political views, so your conservatism becomes a schitzophrenic mess when actually observed. also, there are specific things you're ideologically opposed to that many of those creators and works support in other spaces and projects. even if you cast a wide net, you have to have some line you exclude somewhere. i think you're avoiding saying what that is because it would reveal the inherent contradiction in your position
>>97987627Well, if you had the majority. Why are the Current IPs pushing your viewpoints and ideas now failing. Star Wars, Star Trek, Dr. Who, LOTR, Witcher, etc. These were some of the biggest IPs ever, why after they "put a chick in it and made gay and really lame" did they start tanking. That means other the majority hate gays and women. Or you guys took over a great IP and made it shit pushing your woke slop and views into it till the people who were fans of it left.So yeah, they started excluding the fans for that mythical "modern audience" that they were told was around. Then found out that ESG money doesn't last and even Blackrock and Vanguard threw in the towel. (Though I think they will try again just not be public about it. Hints that BRIDGE BS and all)
>>97987626>Do people playing Stardew Valley for the story, or for the farm gameplay loop and all?i dont know. It's a game with explicit gay romance. is that conservative?> As for Overwatchim just picking it as something that was hated for "wokeness" during it's heyday even though the developers were revealed to be doing it as a marketing sham, put that ancient "triggered" meme in it in widowmaker's poison mine and were breastmilk-stealing weirdoes in general. point is even shitty woke games are out there doing alarming numbers. Rivals is a chinese game iirc so it's by far more conservative, but i dont know if chinese social values is what people ITT specifically are asking for>blackrock will pay me to make gaysex RPGsshit dude can you give me their number? im not saying ESG investing isnt a thing, but they'd have to be bankrolling the entire industry at this point.>I lean towards the hollywood writer you see 2016+ for leftisti dont think that's a fair distinction to draw. not even most americans are coastal elite media californians, and socially progressive issues are fairly consistent internationally. authough i guess if that's really all you draw umbridge with then im not sure what we're arguing about. if the pozzed whores in cali get nuked tomorrow im taking the day off to celebrate
>>97987443>Don't you have to have sex with animals or at least art of yourself doing so to be a furry?Uh, that's bestiality bub...>>97987519>they had a bunch of woke writers add commie shit into the lore and story...You mean Gene Roddenberry?>>97987505>most people thought of Star Trek as just post war American culture (race blind meritocracy and all)The show with the shocking first inter-racial kiss on screen?!
>>97987670Considering the stability of gay marriages and the enduring presence of gay males in conservative spaces? Yes.
>>97987656>put a chick in it and made gayacross the entire trilogy the new starwars had one lesbian kiss that was edited out of the international release. and the OT had leiastar treck lower decks is some of the best treck released in years, its quite well recieved and its got a bunch of gay and lesbian shit in itdr who was always assLOTR didnt have anyone gay in it. granted it had a chick this time, but she was also in the OT and the books, and noone took offence there. she's also not a lesbian in the new ones AFIK, but i didnt watch themwitcher? idk. didnt watch/play it. do you think that maybe these things failed because they were actually corporate cash-grabs that abused the IP expecting free money? and they got the free money because the lowest grossing star wars film from the new trillogy made a billion dollars at the box office. 1B. like, you know i didnt make these movies right? didnt ask for them either. its not like a bunch of lesbians threatened to boycott the movie if they didnt make rose tiko a boring retarded whore for no reason. you can go look at media made by actual left wing people and none of it is amazon's LOTR. and there's plenty of gay shit i can point to that DID find an audience, like how noone shut up about heated rivalry for the last few months. you're cherrypicking big failures, but they arent representative of the actual media landscape
>>97987724>i dont know. It's a game with explicit gay romance. is that conservative?Are they playing for the romance or the farming? I swear, you know the answer avoiding doesn't help your case now.>Rivals is a chinese game iirc so it's by far more conservative, but i dont know if chinese social values is what people ITT specifically are asking forMaybe it's cause the chicks are hot, and not making every white guy a villain and loser. I mean that's basically conservative. Not hating white men and making hot chicks.>shit dude can you give me their number? im not saying ESG investing isnt a thing, but they'd have to be bankrolling the entire industry at this point.They are giving it up now. They fucking admitted it was a failure in front of the cameras.>i dont think that's a fair distinction to draw. not even most americans are coastal elite media californians, and socially progressive issues are fairly consistent internationally. authough i guess if that's really all you draw umbridge with then im not sure what we're arguing about. if the pozzed whores in cali get nuked tomorrow im taking the day off to celebrateRight, bury your head in the sand and say you don't see it and think that works. However, you can believe your lie if you want.
>>97987490Something like that is what I thought ye. I am Euro so USA politics is wierd to me anyway (ours is not better) but the alt right always struck me like something that was just manufactured for outrage.
>>97987724kek. its funny, there seems to be some tentative steps to reconcile gay and conservative politics lately. i think it will fail, but it's going to be a curious half a decade watching it play out>>97987766>Are they playing for the romance or the farming...does it make a difference? it's still a pro-lgbt game from a pro-lgbt studio gaining mainstream appeal. If everyone is playing it for the farming, what does that prove exactly? that the conservative mainsteam majority no longer cares about lgbt issues enough to take a stance either way? is that the win you're angling at? really, im losing track of the point you're trying to make.>hot chicksyeah but those masc men are the hulk and venom shaking their asses in every battle pass. its a gooner game yeah, but its not like its a cishet moid's gooner game. the dudes are fapbait too. is that the maintstream conservative position? or are rivals players also just distainfully looking away every time cap throws it back on point?>black rock funded thirsty sword lesbiansthat game specifically? because it's one thing to scale back ESG investing and another thing to claim they bankrolled every RPG made for the last decade or so. did they bankroll stardew valley too? i think you're just using "blackrock did it" as a cope to dismiss any left wing piece of media that finds any critical success>They fucking admitted it was a failure in front of the camerasbro most americans dont live in california. its a fact, i dont know what you expect me to tell you there
>>97987376Most non-combat roles (absolute dezgra) are found wanting in the Clans.
