A place for discussion of pre-WotC D&D, OSR retroclones, and OSR-adjacent games.>Is this a general?No, just a place to discuss OSR and related content>Isn't there an OSR thread already?No, current regulars of /osrg/ have made it clear they only want to see a specific subset of OSR games in the thread.This means the name /osrg/ is somewhat misleading but that's their problemPlease report and ignore any trolling.Thread question >Modules or homebrew dungeons?
I always start any group with a module. Usually by asking if there's any that they particularly want to play and then not playing Tomb of Horrors but something instead.
Obligatory Snake Rump.The true OSR connoisseur knows why people go to the old school.
>>97991461What's your go-to starting module?
>>97991455Into the Unknown/Keep on the Borderlands is still my huckleberry for new groups. Though I still haven't used the goody navigation trap.
>>97991455Welcome to the third or fourth--I've already lost track--of a series of definitely not a generals posted by the board's greatest schizo, fishfag.Reminder that the actual /osrg can currently be found here:>>97958153>>97958153>>97958153This is just a containment thread for the insane filled with samefagging.
>>97991502Cool, now go back there! Enjoynyour healthy organic discussion and leave us to our "containment thread."
>>97991502Have you allowed 2e and Traveller again?
>>97991488NTA but for shorter stuff i go with the quintessential dungeon, a few of my homebrews and b2. I like b4 but that's a campaign unto itself.I want a tutorial dungeon that's not TOTSK
>>97991455Yet another /osrg/ hijack attempt, remember to report and ignore. Mods, please remove this shitty bait thread.
>>97991494>Keep on the BorderlandsI never found this one to be particularly exciting. Maybe I'm just too familiar with it.
>>97991488>>97991494Samefagging hard, eh, fishfag?
Hijack thread to troll /osrg/. Despite having been told explicitly by mods to stop doing this, he keeps doing this. Remember to report
>>97991721Reasonable, it's pretty vanilla.
do you guys consider "Dungeon Crawl Classics" to be an OSR game?
>>97991488I appreciate In Search of the Unknown for being incredibly on the nose as a tutorial adventure. It's a good intro to a variety of parts of the game even if the tone is a little too chaotic for my personal tastes, and it's just about the perfect size to get players acquainted with how things work beyond just a surface understanding, and then it doesn't overstay its welcome.
>>97991769I see it as in that weird place C&C and Shadowdark are in. Where they're using new rules to chase the old school vibe, NSR if we need to put these games into a box and the grogs will whine if anything made after '95 is listed as OSR.
>>97991455I don't tend to use dungeons. But I often will find a nice map online or make one myself and build off it.
>>97991769It's a neoclone, sure>>97991792 C&C is the first published OSR game. It's a neo clone. The fact is new terms like NSR are just that new and OSR was never as strict as some folks cliam
>>97991838Incorrect, as always.
>>97991721I have never understood why it's so beloved and recommended
>>97991455Also this art was what made me buy the 2e PHB. The cover may have made me pick it up, but this sold it
>>97991769Let's check Wikipedia....I mean, it doesn't say that it's OSR directly, but it's mentioned on its page so I'm gonna give it a "sure why not."
>>97991838>C&C is the first published OSR game.Wrong.
>>97991849Base+Exploration sounds like an ideal way to start things. In the broad strokes. You hit me with that as the elevator pitch and I'm already down to play.It's the execution that's just not that great. Not enough exploration, the caves are actually kind of tedious, and lots of weird logic. The main reason I think people have such fond memories of it is because it's was the first adventure for thousands of groups.
>>97991455Why waste time with osr when 1e pdfs are easy to find? Just play the real thing.
>>979919401e is kinda... eh. It's rough. It's a rough read, and plays funky in a lot of places.B/X has actually proven much more popular over time than AD&D in the OSR community, and even that's a bit on the rough side and can get really rough if the DM is an idiot.That's why both have lots of people offering different rewrites/reformattings, and lots of just complete remixes, re-imaginings, reconstructions, just a whole lot of "r's".
>>97991949>It's a rough readNo it's not. Learn to read. I like the funk. B/X and derived games are kinda boring because it is literally meant for kids.
>>97991970Love what you love, man. But don't tell me there's not at least one or two passages that you don't think could use a trim or a shave or a clarification or two.Gygax spent a good chunk of his last years alive being bombarded by his most die-hard fans begging him for rule clarifications.
>>97991970>No it's not. Learn to read.Shitty rules formatting from the days of literally nobody knowing how to lay them out well is not exactly a wise hill to die on.
>>97991474What about Oppressive Sanguisuge Rising?
2e isnt OSR and it isnt goodI will accept no argument unless you also post a timestamped pic of your IRL 2e books
>>97992288You first, to demonstrate familiarity with and investment in the matter.
>>97991540>traveller>OSRlol>>97991862>i dont care enough to actually find out, so Ill just make up bullshit!
>>97992293Since you asked politely :)This the one I am currently reading, one of the few good ones in my opinion.
>>97992288You are too stupid to accept any argument, nogames.
>>97992288>>97990985
>>97992317you have no books, and no character sheet. because youve never played :)>>97992316post your books :)
>>97992316thats a bit rude, no?
>>97992324>>97990985
>>97992338>"premium" copiesI dont accept replys from wotc paypiggies
>>97992341You will admit that you moved the goalposts now, so no one will bother to treat you like anything but a braindead troll, right?
>>97992347you didnt post an argument. I cant move the goalpost if you didnt kick the ball.
2e isnt osr because they removed demons and devils like a bunch of milquetoast coawrds
>>97992352>removedYou mean cheekily renamed to illustrate how stupid it is to be upset about what fictional enemies in a game are called?
>>97992363>cheekily renamed to illustrate how stupid it is to be upset about what fictional enemies in a game are calledwow, they really gottem with that one!they did it out of fear of lost sales due to satanic panic moms.2e was a moral cop-out.
>>97992370Any game that has big-tittied succubi wins out in the end.
>>97992324Yes, we can tell you never played or had thoughts.
>>97992408nta but are you sure you are replying to the right post? and why are you always so angry and defensive?
>>97992408Why can't you talk normal?Do you have any IRL D&D books?
>>97992410>>97992417I don't know why you are so stupid.
>>979924252410 Here. I'm trying to talk with you like a normal person but every reply is angry and defensive. We're here to talk about D&D. Do you own any books?
>>97992425Stop biting at his bait. He revealed he's just a braindead troll several posts ago.
>>97992352>>97992370I get that you are stupid and underage but back in the day shit like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMartin_preschool_trial was happening so people had a reason to worry about satanic panic crap. Even if you won the case that is a lot of time and money wasted because some morons thought you had a boy butt fingering assembly line or something in your basement.
>>97992448>so people had a reason to change the names of fictional monsters in a fantasy gameFTFY
>>97991455That's it.I'm gonna say it.I'm gonna buy a copy then I'm gonna say it.
>>97992480>NGR FAGuh
>>97991769More like OSR adjacent
>>97991940Because 1e is a masterclass on how to not write rulebooks
>>97992484kek
>>97992309>no time stamp provided
>>97992512just because you got btfo the other day over what a timestamp is, doesnt mean the rest of us are new
>>97992484I'M GONNA SAY IT
>Modules or homebrew dungeons?for me personally a large part of the OSR's appeal is access to countless modules both old-school and modernI like running sandbox campaigns and coming up with shit but often I have no time for that and quite frankly if I'll have to put effort into creating shit I would opt for other non-D&D based systems because generally speaking I prefer classless systems without level-based progressionalso it's easier to get players from my local club interested in a game if I use>we are going to play this or that famed moduleas a pitch
>>97991455>Thread questionMy favorite module is AX1 Sinister Stone of Sakkara, by Alexander Macris. Great blend of wilderness, dungeon, and urban play. Highly recommended.
>>97992777We played the shit out of that one.
>>97992685>we are going to play this or that famed moduleOff the top of my head, i have Dungeons of Dread and The Lost City sitting on my shelf, waiting to be ran. i really need to get a playgroup.
>>97992777I love that one too. Macris is one of the best module designers IMHO.
>>97992887>waiting to be ranTo be RUN, ESL subhuman.
>>97992887name a more iconic duo than 2etard and not playing
>>97992887have you considered online?just search for community around whatever system you are playing and do an lfp post
>>97992925>have you considered online?I'm planning on running stuff over discord this weekend, but i prefer IRL.
>>97993044Nice anon, what game/ module are you running?I'm taking a short break from running games while being a player in a nonOSR game
>>97993222>Nice anon, what game/ module are you running?AX2 - Secrets of the Nethercity
>>97993222>while being a player in a nonOSR gameWhich one? "AD&D" 2e?
>>97991894That's true, the pitch sounds real good. You just don't realize until later it's not as great as it sounds >>97991940NTA but formating and organization. OSR clones and hands down better than the original books.
>>97993455Love that module, Anon
>>97992309The troll won't care. Just don't feed em
>>97993475Yeah, you can also make a really good pitch for it. It's even greater than it sounds.
>>97993470>NTA but formating and organization. OSR clones and hands down better than the original books.Word. ACKS II is much better formatted and organised than AD&D.
>>97993478Please stay on topic and talk about games.
>>97993475Yeah, I'm planning on running it on discord.
>>97993499Meh, I prefer to play ACKS IRL.
Remember: Ignore all ACKS shilling.These trolls are so lonely because no one wants to visit the thread they killed with their gay ACKS shilling. Do not engage.
>>97993044>i prefer IRL.>>97993509>I prefer to play ACKS IRLWow, anons, these are very insightful comments. I had never thought of it before, but I also prefer to play IRL. That's a good discussion.Do you prefer to play IRL or online, Anons?
>>97991894>Base+Exploration sounds like an ideal way to start things. In the broad strokes. You hit me with that as the elevator pitch and I'm already down to play.Yes, Base+Exploration is a great elevator pitch. You don't hear elevator pitches this good very often.Compare these elevator pitches:>Base only, but no explorationThat sounds boring! What will you do all day? Very bad elevator pitch.>Exploration but no base.This is a bad elevator pitch too. You need a Base to rest between explorations.So I concur with Anom, Base+Exploration is a great elevator pitch.Anons, what do you think? Which of these is the best elevator pitch?1. Base only2. Exploration only3. BOTH BASE AND EXPLORATION! IN THE SAME CAMPAIGN!
>>97991894>>97993566This is a very organic discussion. I think it will make me better at pitching D&D in elevators. And I will totally become a better DM in my campaigns that I totally play, with explorations and bases.
>>97993533>Do you prefer to play IRL or online, Anons?That's a great question, Anon.I prefer IRL, but I'd rather play online than not play at all. IRL is better, though.Thank you for the organic discussion.
>>97992685>a large part of the OSR's appeal is access to countless modulesWow, I had never thought of it that way. Yes, there's a lot of modules for OSR. And having more modules is better than having just a few. So there's an appeal to it.Thanks for this very organic comment from someone who totally plays.
>>97992685>>97993583Wow, yes, lots of modules is great! I like it when there's lots of modules. Great discussion.
>>97993529Let them add to the post count.It's not like anyone is actually gonna buy the shit game.The lonliness of the trolls that killed the /osrg/ when they have no one to shill to is probably overwhelming them; take pity on the poor losers.Banned from several websites, despised by the rest, killing off their own discords and forums, the ACKS Shill is a wandering miniature plague, cursed to either be cast out or to kill the place he lingers.
>>97993595>the ACKS Shill is a wandering miniature plagueACKS is an OSR game, so it is on topic. Cope and seethe, subhuman.
>>97993595lol you're very upset. It's working
>>97993595>It's not like anyone is actually gonna buy the shit game.You've never even read it. Stop talking about things you know nothing about. ACKS is the best game since AD&D 1e.
>>97992685>I would opt for other non-D&D based systems because generally speaking I prefer classless systems without level-based progressionWow, that's very authentic OSR. This is really a general for true OSR lovers having organic discussion about OSR. Thanks for saying this.
>>97993589>you are genuinely free to discuss [in a civil manner] OSR-adjacent games such as ACKS in this threadOdd thing to say. ACKS is fully OSR, not "adjacent". It's literally just an expanded B/X.
>>97993595lol you got them furious.they really love to doth protest too much methinks.
>>97993529What do you think "shilling" means, Anon? Talking about something you don't like?
>>97993678They're having a meltdown. We're winning. Keep at it.
>>97993678Yeah, they're really upset.
>>97992288Correct
>>97992317That's schizo copypasta.
>>97992525It's funny how predictable he is over these things. Every time he shows his entire ass and gets mortified over all the heckling, it appears in his replies to others in a distorted, irrelevant form as if it's going to win him something back.
>>97992480DON'T SAY IT
>>97992685I also appreciate the access to modules, an organic and important importance of the OSR, where all long-term groups play modules all the time. Thanks for making this important comment organic!>>97992777This is a particularly good module. It has to be said that Macris is a genius, a swole genius.
>>97982427>I actually predicted they would do something like this in the last thread.>>97993589>usually you start posting at 9 AM NY timeAfter successfully predicting that the BrOSR would post in his thread, fishfag has now discovered that the BrOSR are American. He's very smart. Like Sherlock Holmes, but with an extra chromosome.
>>97993661>It's literally just an expanded B/X.there is a point you expand anything it's stops being the original, wouldn't you agree?nevertheless the beauty of this thread is we don't have to have this discussion, doesn't matter, still thread-relevant
>>97993488ACK is not a retroclone, it's more a neoclone and it's not 1e so not relevant to my post. OSRIC is likely the best 1e retroclone
>>97993824it's not about you being american, my retarded frenit's about you being pathetic loosers with no real life responsibilities and obligations and literally nothing to do with your day
>>97993455This is a very good module also.
>>97993478Don't feed the troll, instead talk about ACKS, which is the topic here in the ACKS General.
The retards that don't play games are making fun of pitching a game to prospect playersas if it isn't something literally every GM had to do at least once LOLtell me you don't run games without telling me you don't run games
>>97993893Just ignore them. It's not like their posts don't stand out and can't be instantly dismissed.
Hello /osrg/For what it's worth, posts here got me to read the ACKS books and I'm quite impressed. I wish it was more milieu-agnostic in some places, but the rules themselves are really comprehensive and the "Judges Journal" holds my hand a lot which I like.What is it that you find bad about the system? Is it too expansive on the domain play to be called "OSR" in your opinion?
>>97993589Maybe just ban ACKS discussion in future threads to keep the trolls out? It's not like the game brings anything good to the table.
>>97993815>Macris is a genius, a swole genius
How many peopled played Spelljammer? I got into it a bit backward I found the war captains boxed set at kb toys before I had the actual spell hammer core boxed, but it sold me on the setting.I mean..space pirates! Yeah it was goofy and I thought the weird gravity rule was an over complication it didn't need. But if you take out the goofy ass DL shit, it runs more more fantasy space than goofy fantasy space. I also found the elven space navy a bit bland and Scro really? They were cool but ORCS backward is your name for heavily civilized space orcs?They really should have explained and used the vordoni more. Come on werewolves as shock troops? Fuck yeah!
>>97993960They love getting banned, gets em hard I think. But yeah it's just not worth it as they add nothing but trolling to any thread.
>>97993974I also like Spellhammer, it's very good. Thank you for reviewing it, this is a good coversation starter. It'll make me a better DM.
>>97993960a) it goes against the nature of the thread which isn't meant to keep any one game outb) it will not achieve anything nah, let them waste their pathetic little lives fighting windmills
>>97993983>gets em hard I thinkThe BrOSR are bunch of fucking homos. They get hard at the weirdest things.
>>97993960I think that's how ACKS usually gets banned from somewhere.You go to weigh all the positives and negatives, and after looking at all the negatives, there's really just not any positives.
>>97993884>OSRIC is likely the best 1e retrocloneHard disagree. Finch is a smelly nerd and a libtard woke cuck who filled it up with his own faggot house rules.
How much are you retard-trolls going to keep replying to eachother? If you're trying to kill the thread with bump limit, just spam "sage" instead of this intentionally-obvious space-wasting.
>>97993529>ACKS shilling>in the ACKS generalI mean... this is where it's meant to be discussed, why would you even go into this thread if you don't want to see that?
>>97994021Please stop feeding the trolls.
>>97993533I also prefer playing IRL to online but I'll play online if I can't play IRL.I appreciate this real discussion! It's so much better than the fake discussion of minutiae like the rules.
>>97994019any _good_ 1e clone is going to be heavily modified by houserulesb/c 1e is an inconsistent self-contradicting mess
>>97993960>>97993983>>97994017So /osrg/ cannot ban "AD&D" 2e, but you can ban ACKS?Classic bad faith fishfaggotry.
>>97993566For me, it's both. That's based and explorepilled, much more organic than just pitching into an elevator.
>>97994060Fuck off troll
>>97993589Very inorganic way to talk anon, and frankly offtopic. Tell us whether you prefer an IRL base or online exploration instead, contribute to the thread!
>>97994056Did you even read OSRIC?Finch's changes are not clarifications of contradictory rules, but literally bullshit that he decided to insert into it because he thought it was cool.
>>97994017NTA but it's been mostly over brigading and threats to the mods
>>97993999ACKS isn't really OSR though. It might have been originally built off of BX, but they just kepy adding dumb rules that ruined the game and made it directly opposite to OSR games by being bloated to more than a thousand pages beyond the original.It's like having a small plane, and adding lots of unneccesary parts like extra wheels and seats on the outside and fifty kegs filled with piss until it can't even fly anymore. No point in calling it a plane.Especially if calling it a plane means you need to let a group of piss-drinking retards sit in your airport.
>>97994064Make me, me scrawny smelly nerd.
>>97993651It's true, playing without classes and levels is more OSR than playing with them. In fact, Runequest is more OSR than 1E AD&D. You can tell by how organic and environmentally friendly it is to accidentally toke yourself to death in a sweat lodge, which no AD&D creator did.
>>97994071do you have any examples of substance or you just going to pull things out of your anus?b/c if it's the latter than please stop, this is a blue board
>>97994079Usual zero intellectual honesty post from fishfag.You don't know anything about ACKS, fishfag. It was proved conclusive last thread, when you:- said it has feats (it doesn't)- said it does not support exploration (it does)- said the adventuring proficiency is optional (it isn't for PCs)You only hate it because you think Macris is a Nazi (he isn't one).
>>97993893I'm going to tell you a secret about working in finance: it's mostly boring drudgework interspersed with periods of just sitting around doing nothing. Then you make a million dollars.
>>97994102>spoon feed meMinimum strength required to use weapons.
>>97994079I actually agree, ACKS is a more of a generic medieval fantasy game that tries to do everythingbut even being inspired by B/X grants it the status of OSR-adjacent at the very leastif there is genuine discussion in this thread to be had about taht game so be it
>>97994114I'd say it's really not worth it, but it's not my thread, so I guess it'll just be ignoring the trolls until they tire themselves out.
The BrOSR are very afraid. They're having a meltdown and they're very upset.
>>97994133Smelly nerd retreats and lets the BrOSR rape his threads and women.Another BrOSR victory.
>>97991455Suggested text for the next thread"Due to trolling mentions of ACKs will be off topic.bposts contains it will be considered trolling and flagged as such,"
>>97993927>Hello /osrg/Just for the record, the current /osrg/ is here: >>97958153This is a troll thread created by a nigger. Up to you whether you want to repost. With that out of the way:>For what it's worth, posts here got me to read the ACKS books and I'm quite impressed.That's great!>I wish it was more milieu-agnostic in some placesYes, the extent to which it's tied to the Auran Empire setting is one of ACKS' few weaknesses. The idea is clearly to illustrate how you would go about hooking the rules into your own setting and at the same time providing a finished example if you can't be bothered to do all the work from scratch on your own, but it still means a lot of extra work if you do want to use your own setting.>>97993927>What is it that you find bad about the system?There's just one guy seething endlessly about it, and his reason is unironically that he thinks the creator is a chud for not firing one of his employees once about a decade ago, when a porn cameraman called that employee a transphobe. I wish I were kidding.>Is it too expansive on the domain play to be called "OSR" in your opinion?It's absolutely an OSR game. All the shitposting you see against it is deliberately nonsensical.
>>97994133Any mention of ACKs you know is troll. So flag and ignore it is my advice
>>97993964Check out those organic muscles!
>>97993974>How many peopled played Spelljammer?When it came out? Very probably nobody. As in, literally zero people. It sold extremely badly and most likely those who bought it bought to read, or to complete a collection. It's your classic shelf warmer.
>>97994141>Due to trolling mentions of ACKs will be off topic.bposts contains it will be considered trolling and flagged as suchsaari speek wery good english saardue to lerning of english have carryed out in the english school of bangalore saarthey vill be considered wery good school saarthey flagged as such in the bangalore herald saarvait saarvhy you yeet me into diarrhea ditch of bangalore saarpleese stop saarnoooooooooooooooooooo
>>97994141Let's pump the brakes a little. See how things play out a bit more.There's already a nice stock of posts to support that, but the guy who wants to uphold the ideal of free speech is not wrong to want that, even with these trolls displaying why there are limits to free speech.It would be funny as fuck though.
>>97993807
>>97994153>Any mention of ACKs you know is trollsaari know post is troll saarvhy u keep making post is troll saaris not wery good saar.vait saarvhy u picking me up saaru know ditch of bangalore is diarrhea saar.u no yeet me in diarrhea ditch saarpleese stop saarnoooooooooooooooooooo
>>97994160Used to be a few sites back in the 90s dedicated to it, but I agree it was one of the low sellers. It's just an off the wall idea. It has been one of those that kinda have a cult following and the market is better for it now than then. It in the 90s it was a weird outlier, in the 2020s it's closer to mainstream fantasy. Of course wotc kinda shit the bed on the 5e adaption but that's just Thier thing.
>>97994160Any game with Giant Space Hamsters is doomed. The setting could be a masterpiece, but GSH would be enough to have no one ever take it seriously.Deck Apes are awesome though. Don't @ me.
>>97994174They have used it to troll on the last 8 or 9 threads. It's clear they are trolls and more than one of them. Fuck em and fuck that trash game
>>97994021>If you're trying to kill the thread with bump limit, just spam "sage" instead of this intentionally-obvious space-wasting.That's not how that works. I wish it did but saging the thread doesn't drop it in the catalog, it just prevents your post from bumping. The next homo to post a non-saged post still bumps the thread to the top of the catalog, so it's wasted work. The only way to get rid of a thread is to bring it to bump limit. Otherwise this garbage thread would've been gone long ago.
>>97994194It's the DL stuff, if you remove Dragon lance the goofy drops fast. Fuck Dragonlance.
>>97994038kek
>>97994064Damn, what an articulate reply full of reasoned argumentation!
>>97994077>brigading and threats to the modsNope. Here's how ACKS got banned off rpg.net:>mods post shit-tons of lies about Macris, like that he's a neo-nazi>Macris contacts Appelcline who owns the site and informs him that if his staff continue to libel him with verifiable lies, he is going to take legal action. Note that this is completely normal and the system working as intended; you're supposed to have recourse against this sort of thing which is why slander and libel laws exist in the first place. Nerds are just not used to those laws being enforced online, but Macris is a lawyer so he knows they can be>the mods consider this an intolerable infringement on their right to bully and brigade people they hate and refuse to accept it, so in response, Appelcline bans all mention of ACKS and Macris from rpg.net
>>97994079ACKS is absolutely OSR, it's a Rules Cyclopedia-type expansion for B/X.
>>97994102Beau Rancourt recently described how his Arden Vul campaign crashed with no survivors due in part to OSRIC removing the AD&D rule about scaling the XP gain to challenge level, which led to his name level characters smashing up some enemy base on dungeon level 4 and easily scoring a ton of XP.
>>97994196And their trolling hasn't really done anything. It's a little annoying, but not anything that's stopped these threads or would stop these threads.I'm all for banning ACKS from future threads and I don't think anyone would share a tear for it, but free speech is a beautiful thing even when there's bad actors doing their best to abuse it. It's a shame to limit it in any way.Though, not enough of a shame to let the trolls have their way if they ever actually became a real problem. And, the part that's really pushing me to one side is just how funny it would be if the more popular OSR thread got that way just by banning ACKS.
>>97994133>MACRIS! WHAT IS BEST IN LIFE?>TO CRUSH YOUR ENEMIES, SEE THEM WOBBLE FATLY BEFORE YOU, AND HEAR THEIR LAMENTATIONS AT HAVING NO WOMEN!
>>97994141>Due to trolling mentions of ACKs will be off topic.bposts contains it will be considered trolling and flagged as suchGiven that the thread itself is a trolling attempt and hasn't been deleted, do you really think the jannies will act on your unilateral declarations of trolling?
>>97994153>Is you know troll is organic!>Flag-flag!Uhhh, ok...
>>97994141>>97994153>mentioning ACKS in the ACKS General is trolling?????????
>>97994184>Used to be a few sites back in the 90s dedicated to itSites with adventures and play reports?I can pretty much guarantee you that those sites were run by nogame fans of the setting, some guy setting up a Geocities as an outlet for his enthusiasm because he couldn't get his players on board with replacing the Forgotten Realms.
>>97994289...who hurt you?What drives a person to demand receipts like that?
>>97994196my anonthey are doing it manually, i.e. by handthink about itlet them crash at windmillsthe real reason the previous attempts at having a place for all OSR discussion failed is because they had one them fags as a janny who deleted and banned any opposing views in a matter of minutesI'm willing to create threads as long as there is any interest, they are free to waste their lives if they want to
>>97994313kek
>>97994289I rand three different SJ games It was popular in my flags for a bit too. Folks did play it, just not as many as other settings
>>97994319>I'm willing to create threads as long as there is any interestBut there isn't? There literally is no conversation happening ITT except some anons moving their conversations about ACKS here from /osrg/ just to troll you, the rest is literally all just spamming the thread out.
>>97994234>Here's how ACKS got banned off rpg.net:
>>97994342NTA but there have been 3 or 4 tried buried by trolling
>>97994319NTA, and I mean, good for you for having principles about openness or whatever, but also don't discount how funny it would be.
>>97994353As shouldn't shock you, the ACK shrill is lying
>>97994247Interesting. Shall we continue this discussion on the real /osrg/ instead of the BrOSR one?
>>97994364If you say so, fishfag.
>>97994354Even this thread had fifty or so posts of discussion before the trolls woke up. That's fifty more posts of real discussion than the /osrg/ has had in months.
>>97994406>this thread had fifty or so posts of discussionbullshit
>>97994342that's not how I see itthe way I see it is a bunch of pathetic losers wasting their entire days 4 days in a row to "troll" supposedly one dudeI barely reply to their posts and since they are so easy to identify, barely read them, and on top of that there isn't anything those tards can say to actually get to meI mean I know for a fact they are worthless pathetic losers, and, what is even worse, fucking sub100 IQ retards
>>97994406lol, yeah, sure
>>97994107I don't think you are going to make a million dollars being a cleaning manager in a finance firm, anonthey are lying to you
>>97994414My, look at you protest.You really haven't solved the whole "I say these threads are all just one guy pretending to have a discussion, but I also feel that I have to spend hours trying to flood them because I'm so threatened by them" paradox yet.
>>97994406>Even this thread had fifty or so posts of discussion before the trolls woke upkek>That's fifty more posts of real discussion than the /osrg/ has had in months.lmaaaaaoooooooo
>>97994438>threatenedAgain, you just repeating something will never make it true. It's just ain't organic, li'l bro. Do you even lift?
>>97994364The best part is how he's lying.Mac didn't actually sue them for libel, because he couldn't and knew he'd lose. He couldn't even threaten to sue them, because he could still be taken to court over that. So, instead, he had to make passive-aggressive "look I'm not threatening to sue you but it would be a real shame if someone did threaten to sue you, y'know what I mean?" email, and the rpg.net guy was just all "dude, fuck this guy" and decided that if Mac didn't want people saying mean things about him or his game, they'd just ban the game entirely.The whole CuCKS saga is just one "Ha ha look how clever I am- OH NO" scene after another.
>>97994538>Mac didn't actually sue them for libelI didn't say he actually sued them, you mong, I said he told Appelcline he would take legal action if there was no improvement in staff behavior. Rpg.net went full SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT DOWN FOREVER long before any formal suit was served.The rest of your post is some really elaborate schizo fantasizing but not very creative.
>>97994438>my bullshit getting called out is just one anon! lol too precious
>>97994538The stuff listed wasn't even by a mod or untrue. It was all factual information the mods refused to remove when flagged as it was easy to find on Google. And rpgNet decided no one got to threaten Thier mods, which is fair.
>>97994184>>97994574>ThierSo what's with this typo being so consistent anyway? You know we can identify you by it, right?
>>97994563He was too chickenshit to actually threaten legal action because he knew he could get into some real shit if he tried.He just tried to intimidate the mods as best he could, and their response was telling him to go fuck himself.And to you, that makes him your hero lol.
>>97994079>being bloated to more than a thousand pages beyond the original.So we're now at "A game can't be OSR if it's got subsystems and complex rules"Boy.Buddy.Retard.Do I have some things to tell you about 2e.Hands up any cocksucking cowboy that's ever used the Ethereal Tracking, Anti-Mucous Bulwark or Fungi recognition proficiencies in any game ever.Put your hand down Fishfag, we know you don't even play games
>>97994590>h-he didn't threaten legal action, he threatened the threat of legal action!>and this somehow scared the piss out of RPG.net even though they knew actual legal action was impossible!!>Macris got owned!!!NAYRT but what in the fuck are you even saying lmao
>>97994597Well, to be fair, what he wants is to ban ACKS from this thread. And 2e isn't an OSR game, so it's already banned from this thread, which is clearly labeled as an OSR thread. You have to admit that's consistent, at least.
>>97994590Why ban discussion of him then? If he can't sue or do anything too them why did they disallow talking about/making fun of him?
>>97994608Yeah but he thinks 2e is an OSR game and is willing to hold that position like Hill 262.
>>97994631Well, we can't be held responsible for the antics of a schizo retard.
>>97994612Because it's much more satisfying to just ban the topic altogether.Solve all the problems and make Mac look like a dumb faggot.It was also the first game to be ever banned from there. They really made him into an example.
>>97994612You're never going to get a coherent answer to this. They have a pathological need to frame it as a victory, especially after Zak actually took them to court, blew their asses out and forced them to pay him and apologize in public. (They inititally tried the same thing then, "n-n-no, he didn't win in court because Ettin settled!!! Zak got $5000 worth of BTFO actually!" but that was too obviously horseshit and didn't work even on themselves).
>>97994650>I'm bleeding! That makes me the victor!
>>97994588Both of those are me,so why should I care you can tell they are me? As for Thier, it's auto correct every time I hit the fucking space for some reason it capitals it. Sometimes I think to correct it others I do not.
>>97994666>get your game banned>justasplanned.gifAnd you CuCKS are STILL mad. That's definitely a victory.
>>97994597Weird they ignore this and went to unocarding bigpurp getting so scared of legal they removed all discussion of ACKS.
>>97994683It's the same whenever he gets asked an uncomfortable question, he just ignores it, fixates on some irrelevant detail and uses it as a launching point for his standard schizo rant.
>>97994683Feel free to screencap and bully the shit out of him with it whenever he pops up his little down syndrome head.
>>97994679>madWait, how the fuck do you figure this? YOU'RE the one who keeps pushing ACKS being banned from rpg.net as this big defeat, and then anons make fun of you for it since they banned it out of panicked shaking fear of Macris. And now that makes *them* mad somehow? They're just pointing at you and laughing, bro.
>>97994650Did rpgnet predate the reddit bannings? If so, it'd mean that there's a good chance that it actually inspired the reddit mods. I think it was also the first time that any game got banned from those subreddits.Losing out on rpgnet was a hit, but losing the ability to shill on Reddit was a pretty severe blow, especially with all the bad publicity that came with that. Rpgnet was kinda just the first step.
>>97994766What inspired the reddit mods were the shills brigading and everyone complaining about them.These guys, if you haven't noticed, have something of a problem with acting like humans.
Are nonfighter-like classes just supporting cast?
>>97994812At low levels, kinda.At high levels though you can really rape the game.
>>97994797answer this one >>97994597
>>97994812In what game?
>>97994194All three Baldur's Gates had giant space hamsters, and those games sold like hotcakes.
>>97994766They were two unrelated bannings. RPG.nrt was over ol marky threading mods with legal action for not stopping conversion he didn't like The reddit ban was over the ACK discords brigading and getting caught organizing on their discord
>>97994736NTA but it got banned on RPGnet because marky went after the mods personally because they would not censor what he wanted buried. They didn't start the anti acid points pointing out his past associations and nothing was made up. You can Google it all.He wanted it removed, it didn't violate any rules, so they left it. He did emailed them and treated legal action not against the forum, but individual mods for not censoring it.So they just banned him and his game.
>>97994650having been to rpg.net that sounds like cope, they hate goodman games for being Nazi's yet they haven't banned discussing them have they? rpg.net gets satisfaction from complaining not from restraint. The story that they stopped from fear of legal action just sounds more plausible
>>97994909>>97994928>markyjej
>>97995055Correct. There are lots of games they seethe rampantly about and they love to do it. This is blind stinking fear.
>>97994812Yes, only a fighting-mxn can challenge fatphobic stereotypes with true pride!!!!
>>97995086What is that abomination? The BrOSR scoffs at that degeneracy. May our Lord and King Jesus have mercy on your soul.
>>97995146It's the symbol of 2e, the most inclusive edition where all chud influence comes pre-removed!!!!! Stay in your 1e lane, white supremacist bigots!!!!!!!!!!! MWAH
>>97995169That terrifies me. I'm very upset. I'm having a meltdown. The BrOSR is routed, fishfag wins once again.
>>97994141You do know that announcing reports is a bannable offense? Also I'll be posting ACKS regardless and there's not a thing your bitch ass can do about it>>97994071There is tons of shit in osric3 that is just blatantly randomly changed for no good reason other than he liked it. Stop sucking the cock of some random retard who can't even create an actual clone
>>97994077Good. Those faggot spaces and the faggots running them deserve to be ran over roughshod.
>>97994079Everything you said describes 2e dnd actually
>>97994196It's not a troll to mention how my ose game is going to incorporate jamming. It's also not a troll to say that 2e is not osr.
>>97994021>>97994319Schizophrenic delusions. >My off topic bullshit got deleted, the janny is out to get me! Lol maybe you're a scourge to the board?
>>97995593>osehom-OSE-xuality
>ruins his reputation over a nazi's shitty bookWas it worth it?
>>97994538>Mac didn't actually sue themThis is crazy how you actually can't read? I have to suspect that you are ESL and don't understand how the legal system works. That post very clearly said that he threatened legal action against them, never that he actually served them with papers. I guess I should not expect much from an ESL 2etard who has never once played D&D in his entire life
>>97994234And that's how ACKS is not mentioned at other parts of the s0y0sphere, not because they don't want to, but because the mods do not want to get the site sued.
>>97995637I mean, the CSIO is incredible, so yeah, probably. Bawwing about the rightsholder being a racist or voting Trump or whatever is just goofy.
>>97994909>two unrelated banningsI mean, there is an underlying connection. Both bannings happened because of some scummy guys being overprotective of a shit game.
>>97995666>he literally can't readNah, again, the Big Purp ban happened because the mods couldn't tolerate not having a free hand to shit on Macris. It had nothing to do with the game as such, nor was anybody being protective of it. Macris simply did not want to be libelled, so in response they banned any mention of his game.
>>97994174I don't think much more is needed.At minimum a "Anyone posting about ACKS is an unwelcome troll and should be ignored. Do not engage with them as they've tried to repeatedly flood threads across the board" disclaimer post following the OP.
>>97995716The contrary of ACKS opposition appears to be far more vocal and low-effort.
>>97995716Nah. Why would ACKS be unwelcome trolling in the ACKS General? ACKS I and ACKS II are the only really appropriate games to discuss here!
>>97995716Great idea, fishfag. You and fishfag should get together and talk it over with fishfag to make sure you get the wording right for when you're samefagging conversations with each other in the next iteration of this not-a-general.
>>97995716We've tried to repeatedly flood threads? You think this posting isn't organic? I'm sorry, but these are entirely authentic conversations, please reply stating your preference of thick and thin dungeon walls instead of posting off-topic.
>>97995716That probably should be posted in every thread. With a link to this one so people can learn to recognize them.
>>97995756You think people need to read a whole thread to recognize ACKS posters? You don't think the fact that they're posting about ACKS might be a clue?
>>97995756>>97995765well >>97994597?
>>97995765People might not really understand just how dumb they are and why they should be automatically ignored.
>>97995775You post about them a lot for something you automatically ignore.
>>97995773I think you misunderstood me >>97995765, I'm one of the ACKS posters and making fun of this retard.
>>97995775I see that your ignoring is very automatic! Disregarding the whole topic of ACKS, huh. Not complaining at all about how's it's banned on other boards, I bet.
>>97995778Fuck, you beat me to it. Nice work Anon.
>>97995637go back to /pol/, scrawny smelly woke libtard commie faggot nerd
>>97995716>Anyone posting about ACKS is an unwelcome troll and should be ignored.You're terrified by ACKS.Another BrOSR victory.
>>97995756>With a link to this one so people can learn to recognize them.I think we should link to the thread in which they posted tens of LGBTQ versions of AD&D 2e monsters. So everyone on /tg/ can see what they're up to.
>>97995778It's pretty clear fishfag loves getting gang raped by the BrOSR. Why would he keep coming back for more for years on end, otherwise?
>>97995851Yeah, what thread was that? Can I get a link, please?
BrOSR Umber Hulk Hogan
>>97995440I have not announced I reported. I advised folks to report. Those are different things troll
>>97995931AD&D 2e She-Hulk. Which one do you prefer?
>>97995666Well yeah, The game attacks a type. But being a shit person was not itself the cause. Doing shitty things was the cause.
>>97995986More like 2he-Hulk, lmao
The BrOSR are clearly in the majority in this thread. And we want this to remain an ACKS thread. Make your own thread if you want an ACKS-free safe space.
holy shit the mods really are cucked
>>97995780Blue on blue fire, my bad.
>>97996000Do something about it, you spaghetti-armed little faggot
>>97995637Nazis are based
>>97995994I second the motion for this to be the ACKS/BrOSR not-general. Do we have consensus, bros?
>>97995988>>97995666Explain. >>97994597
>>97995994>>97996023Agreed. The consensus is total (except possibly Fishfag will seethe estrogenically again).
>>97995994>>97996023>>97996031Macho Mandalf fourths the motion. "AD&D" 2e and 2etards are allowed in the thread to be mocked and turned into our sex slaves.
>>97996000>mald hard>shit on the mods over itI bet this will work out great for you, memecucker!
>>97995994>>97996023>>97996031>>97996040We have four votes in favour of this being the BrOSR ACKS not-general.
>>97996000Yeah the mods give osrg trolls free reign to troll
>>97996040RPGpundit here, I am also going to back this motion
>>97996047Excellent. Basedetics on suicide watch
>>97996053>free reignIt's FREE REIN, not free "reign", you fucking ESL subhuman. Go back into your diarrhea ditch in Bangalore.
>>97995716This I advise everyone to flag em. They clearly have no life
>>97996053No they are just so tired of your bullshit that they are letting us take matters into our own hands.Remember that scene in full metal jacket, when the drill instructor realizes that his punishments aren't enough to correct private pyle, so he implicitly allows the rest of the squad to kick his ass in the middle of the night? Well this is that scene, you are private pile, and we are your squad mates correcting your bad behavior.
>>97996060FUG, I thought I dodged the word filter but the mods were too smart for me. I KNEEL
>>97996059That's FIVE votes for keeping this as the BrOSR ACKS general and none against.
>>97996063To be fair though, we *are* also inaugurating our thousand-year reign over this not-general, with full consensus of all parties.
>>97996070pardue, reporting in. make it six!
>>97996070I'm already looking forward to Anon posting the next one of these, so we can really get our broing going!
>>97996064The one thing that's pretty funny is when you bring up why they got banned from Reddit, they act like there's no way they got banned for being obnoxious trolls.I mean, I guess the whole "we spend hours flooding threads put they just keep remaking them" is also pretty funny.
>>97996081I'm just a scrawny nerd, but I hope I can join the BrOSR some day. Seven!
>>97996097do try to minimize the off-topic sloppa, fren!
why don't you just make your own thread to suck each other off in instead of conquering this desert of a thread?
>>97996097KEEP LIFTING BROThe BrOSR is about making yourself better, not everyone can reach Macris levels of swole, but you can join the BrOSR if you show faith and discipline and play AD&D 1e rules as written, as Gygax intendedI'm praying for you
>>97996105Its called the aryan favstian spirit, and manifest destiny. A desert here, but beyond that? The world.TOTALBROSRVICTORY.
>>97996105Don't falseflag. You haven't conquered shit.
>>97996105It's called Adventurer CONQUEROR King, not Adventurer Founder King. We conquer what smelly nerds build, and feast in it.HAIL JEFFRO!
>>97996117stop impersonating my posts
>>97996113>>97996117>>97996123well i hope you enjoy all the sand then.
>>97996047Only vote that matters is who nuts up to make the OP.
>>97996128you dont game. we dont care what you think.
>>97996138then why reply at all if I'm simply a strawman
>>97996143because youre also a FAGGOT
Fishfag and friends mad the "ACKS thread" bait didn't get any bites?
>>97996151then why replay at all if I'm a faggot? a person with no meaning?
>>97996159>huh?>huh?>huh?eat shit
>>97996167my reason is to add to the post count. whats yours?
>>97996175
>>97996175Simple>Meme on you until you cry>Then make memes about you cryingIs that clear enough?
>>97996189yes. but I'm afraid I'm not the person you're looking for. but please continue
>>97996085They are nothing but troll who seem to hate OSR. All we can do is flag, although the mods clearly don't care and they know they are protected. Hell they openly admit they are trolling
Friends, BrOSthers, ACKSmen!I'm announcing yet another BrOSR VICTORY to you: We have conquered the LAST POST in the last not-general thread.>>97994505REJOICE
>>97996225It's easy enough to just ignore them, remake the threads, and also maybe occasionally bring up the dirty laundry they've been piling up. It's not like we're dealing with anything other than old men with the brains of five-year olds.
The osrg trolls love sucking each other's cocks
>>97996251Are you threatening to shame us by sharing a retrospective of our victories?
>>97996251Yeah I don't tend to respond to them, but they made like 150 posts sucking each other off and openly trolling. As long as the mods refuse to, well mod the troll they will keep killing threads and running off posters who don't want to deal with toxic 5 year olds flinging shit
>>97996264of course. we're afraid that the gay people have finally taken over tg
>>97996256>>97996271>>97996274>ur gayOuch, what a burn. We're so upset. We're having a meltdown.
>>97996256I keep saying that their whole operation is just a homosexual cult. That's why they're so gung-ho on trying to groom anyone interested in OSR into their cult.That's probably how most of them ended up they way they are. Macris approached them at a con a decade ago, groomed them, and they're now desperate to get more people to replace their dwindling numbers. They're probably getting really tired of the same limp dicks.
>>97996283Don't you dare level accusations of sodomy at our Lord and Saviour Macris!This upsets me greatly.I'm having a meltdown.
>>97996271>>97996283well?>>97995778
>>97996271So?It'd actually be better if they did 300. Or 500 even.The more they post, the more people can get a sense of how they got themselves banned from those other websites. At their core, they're kind of just shit people, so they couldn't even stop themselves if they wanted to, and nothing does more damage to their whole agenda and ideology than just letting them be themselves.It's a little annoying to have to scroll a little extra to get past their posts, but that's really it.
>>97996331>The more they post, the more people can get a sense of how they got themselves banned from those other websites.I, personally, get the impression the trolling is the anti-ACKS/2e-isn't-OSR side.
>>97996334Yeah, the pro-2e and anti-ACKS troll has been trolling /osrg/, /nsrg/, /2eg/, and /todd/ for years at this point, and he keeps accusing everybody else of being a troll.
>>97996351>and after all this, trollcow still thinks this was all fishfags doing.
>>97996351you should at least give the BROgres the credit they deserve for taking the threads
>>97996362You biting at such dumb bait is unneccesary.
>>97996085Lmao you think anyone here was banned from Reddit
>>979934702e PHB and DMG were both much better organised than 1e and better organised than a bunch of modern mimics.
>>97995637is pissing off a tiny handful of trannies "ruining your reputation" these days
>>97997133Perhaps, but since they are garbage you don't want to use them anyway.More importantly, "AD&D" 2e is off topic.
>>97997216>More importantly, "AD&D" 2e is off topic.>>>A place for discussion of pre-WotC D&D
>>97997239Sorry, but this is an OSR thread! 2e is not an OSR game, so regardless of any unfortunate phrasing in the OP, 2e is off topic ITT.
>>97997133shit game
We need the Kindly Old Warrior Noble to decide which is the real thread.
>>97999454The 2nd ed troll kept reporting them for avatar fagging and discouraged them enough to stop posting years ago.
