Auxiliary edition>Previously in the Mortal Realms:>>97976271 >Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread question:Your faction has to add 1 species that wasn't a part of it already. Who do you pick?
>>97994138>>97994155Oh yeah I guess you're right, looking at the minis even some models besides the gorgers seem to have them, most notably the icrebrow hunter.I have to say I don't really like it much on ordinary ogres either, better if it keeps contained to gorgers.
>>97994283some kind of troggs to ironjawz. im thinking big, brick shithouse muscle troggs with a build like the old warmahordes troll kings
>TQ>sylvaneth Hmm...to add order of the furrow(humans) or rootkings(duaradin)...
>>97994310>some kind of troggs to ironjawz
>>97994310That's a realy cool model actully. How big is he?
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>>97994330About same size as 120mm centerpieces are in Warhammer. So around size of Maw-krusha, Talia, Alarielle the Everqueen, etc.
>>97994359lel.
>>97994310without the meme ice stuff a build like this could be cool.
>>97994310I could never get into warmachines stuff. though I did like some things from the ouroboros line.
>>97994359hehe
>>97994359
>>97994373Just paint it as crystals or stalagmites
>>97994330fucking H U G Emega gargant sized, that base is 130mm and he towers over it. i've got all 3, they're like 5 solid pounds of resin each.i would probably want the ironjawz trogg in my pitch to be smaller though, a more managable size like a normal gargant, and so the mawkrusha remains the biggest thing in the army.still, if you can find one of the old kings to paint for a decent price, i'd get it, they're a blast, amazing models. they are a bit of a bitch to assemble though. big, heavy solid resin with metal accessories, and PP had kind of shitty casting quality that resulted in mould piping often intersecting the model which could damage some detail, usually on areas like the forearms. also the glacier kings glacier had hella gaps trying to get it to seat into the recess on his back, so i needed a lot of filler for that
>>97994373there's also a stone one and a sea one, and the sea one can be built without his shipwreck, and there is just sculpted seaweed mats and coral on his back but not a huge mass of them like the other two, so if you want a more bare bones one, thats the guylooks like you can get the first 2 on ebay for like $80 a piece though which isnt bad, almost half their original price. they make a great stand in for a mega gargant merc, they're almost the exact size of a mega.
>>97994258what makes you say STD? They just got a massive refresh only a few years agoIt's not something that amyone really saw coming but it's what the rumourmongers are currently pointing towardsI don't know if you're aware of any of the hubbub by the way but 5th is staged to shake things up in a pretty major way. Not quite an end times tier event, more like a post gathering storm 8th edition 40k type deal
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>>97994461and then here i tried to find some decent unpainted pics so you could see just the raw model detail
>>97994534>Bottom fingers inexplicably made of metalHuh
>>97994283>tqwe have destruction ogres (duh), order ogres, we HAD death ogres and chaos ogres, we should get them back.Nurgle ogres have some model precedent, but I think slaanesh or khorne ogres would be more fun.I kind of want to see what a CoS troggoth would look like honestly.Other than that, dragons (or their equivalent) for literally every faction.Luv me dragons
>>97994534some parts just happen to not be casted well due to how they're on the sprues, so they're substituted by metal casts
>>97994283>TQWood Elves!
>>97994794>Other than that, dragons (or their equivalent) for literally every faction.>Luv me dragons-factions that currently have dragons (or some equivalent>stormies>IJ/KB>FEC>SBGLthe list is quite dire isn't it? Not a single dragon between the like 4 elf factions
>>97995210If IJ wyverns counts so should StD drakes
>>97994985i dont get it.
>>97995245i feel like StD should get something like fellbeasts from lotr.
>>97994283Idoneth get Carceri, who are elves cursed with the crab-like aspect of Slaimesh
>>97994794>but I think slaanesh or khorne ogres would be more fun.Man, gluttony is arguably the most underserved aspect of Slaanesh. There is exactly ONE fat bastard Slaaneshi model, so adding a unit of fat-fuck ogres would go a long way to filling out the fat guy quota that's been going ignored for years.As a side note, anyone have the recent DoK tome?
>>97995331>There is exactly ONE fat bastard Slaaneshi model2. Other is a demon
>>97995358I always forget about Underworlds. I don't think I've ever actually seen that kit - either in a store or in someone's collection.Point still stands. Need more fat fucks.
>>97995245WingletsBut yeah StD probably makes the list if we squint
>>97994985I wonder how much whiplash you get if you're in the gunner nest when your ogre/giant wades into combat
>>97994985I like his art, dude got alot of backlash for this one when usually everyone compliments his work. His stormcast and vampire stuff is pretty good.>>97995254Ogre making fun of the giant for not having proper armor like herself, instead going in "naked" into combat. And obviously fetish art.
>>97994985How small is the free guilds gargant compared to the wild ones?
>>97994283...artist?
>>97995558Total runts, but less gangly
>>97995566https://x.com/TiredThunder/status/2037252847675355599
>>97995594Damn that city diet is fucking brutal
>>97995869Them and the ogors are totally not slaves by the way. Just because they have stunted growth, outward signs of malnourishment and, in the case of the gargants, are literally chained to a single location doesn't mean they're slaves.
>TQI would say Order Undead to CoS but we're at the point where Aelves and Duardin are a better out there addition. Fucking state of this wannabe 40k slop edition
>>97995881Considering how undead are all humans they’d fit in there too.
>>97995869>>97995880City ogors are actually much taller than the wild ones
>>97995881CoS already has undead
>>97995903Yeah, but ogors are s'posed to be fat fucks.
>>97995594Doubt
>>97995909Anything more than a token
>>97995594>That bulgeJesus those gargants are packing
>>97995594This is just a guess on my part but i think the only reason the City's of Sigmar were even able to bring the Ogors and Gargants into the fold in the first place was that they were the runts of there litters and barely survived being so. The forces of destruction must absolutely hate the runts of any of the big races for being smaller and weaker than they should be. So when Sigmar goes recruiting for big fuckers to join his armies he goes looking for the runts to make his pitch to first. As they most likely have nothing left to lose by this point in there lives.
>>97995909Where?
>>97996033They're not packing what you think they're packing, that's from stuffing captives in their trousers.
>>97996062I guess that's one way to jack off while fighting
>>97996057The soul shepherd in the command corps has an undead bro playing a flute
>>97996033One must wonder what the thoughts of the sculptor for the mancrusher was back in the early 00's when he was sculpting the thing's massive schween
>>97996096Oh that's rad as fuck actually. It only makes me want more command squads with interesting guys in it for other factions.
>>97996106You uh... Replied to the wrong post.
>>97996106The guy on the bottom row is literally going "What the fuck am i reading!".
>>97996106>It only makes me want more command squads with interesting guys in it for other factions.OBR kind has one, they're just on Katkros.Same martial, same banner guy, same spymaster. No medic and priest though
>>97996077it's actually an undead-shaped gargolyan instead of a genuine undead but close enough the talking heads of the marshalls are 100% necromancy thoughwever
>>97996120He is just saying that most sculptors love making gigantic dicks on there sculpts is all. Everyone knows that for a fact my dude.
>>97996106Kek
>>97996096Hangin dong in the front, Hank Hill in the back
>>97996057Lorewise is Shyish.
>>97996141It'd be pretty easy for at least all of Death to get one. OBR basically has one as you said, which could be made into a similar separate kit for those wanting to forgo Katakros.Nighthaunt could have one consisting of a knight of Shrouds-like acting as champion, a bannerman, maybe some kind of new summoner model to act as a "medic". SBG could have a Wight lord or vampire champion, some kind of apprentice lich or necromancer, Bannerman Barrow guard, a surgeon for stitching up undead flesh would be coolAnd FEC could practically have a 1-to-1 with the COS one since in their minds they're very similar to them as a noble knightly faction. I'd love to see a fucked up ghoul surgeon
>>97996057It's mentioned in some blurbs that some cities in shyish have ancestor spirits in the city watch or some shit like thatThere's also the free willed dead but I think that's not literal undead
>>97996356I can see zombies casually hanging out with them
>>97996141>>97996341Yeah it's a cool concept, the only direct analogue is gsg with their gobbapalooza. Other than that you've only got the katakros base decoration guys. There's also the kharadron thunderer squad which is obviously not really the same but is as close as you'll get.I think FEC would have a very fun command corps equivalent, they're practically begging for one. You could do all the courtly characters with fun concepts that maybe aren't quite relevant enough to be a full hero unit on their own, but could be one together. Court painter, tax collector, dumb soulful guys like that.Chorfs could be fun too, but maybe more in the style of kharadron where's it's just a bunch of heavy weapons but each one kind of specialized.
>>97996133D3 mw in a 2+?
>>97996420Well .. he is a pure death mage after all. What good would he be if he did not kill motherfuckers dead?
>>97996356>free willed deadI wonder if that could equate to undead kingdoms free from the clutches of Nagash. It would be pretty cool to see a Wight King who worships Morr(da) as a more protective death god rather than the control freak that is Nagash. Wights seem to be the only form of undead that aren't directly leashed by Nagash in some way now that I think about it. NIghthaunt and OBR essentially serve him directly. The vampires are hindered by the Soulblight curse and bound to Nagash. FEC ghouls aren't strictly speaking undead as far as I'm aware and Ushoran is still a vampire. At least I think this is all the case. Either way, I want to see a kingdom of the free skeletons of the Mortal Realms.
>>97996560You never know, they introduced Archaon vs Belakor and Morathi vs Krethusa so it's not like they're against the idea of inter-faction splits
>>97996616Could be a good excuse to add a different looking skeleton kit with different armor. Or maybe at least some kind of an upgrade with different heads/weapons.
>>97996560I'm not entirely 100% but I think the free willed dead are supposed to be a symbol representing those who succesfully passed away without having their souls taken by nagash into eternal servitude or whatever the fuck. So y'know a normal afterlife.I'm not really sure how dying in shyish even works. Shit gets tricky when the living, well, live in the afterlife. Say your average lethis steelhelm gets an ogrefist to the face does he just "wake up" a couple miles down the road in comfy steelhelm valhalla? Can he get out and try again? Who the fuck knows (well somebody probably does just not me)
Which factions do you think are most likely to rape fallen foes after a battle? My vote is the Skaven, they live short lives and constantly rant about "breeding rights". I'm sure Clanrats gang rape any enemy even remotely feminine
>>97996721We had a few minor excerpts of undead and humans living together in Sigmar's cities, some purged by Sigmar and Nagash while some allowed to exist through persistence.
>>97996746Anon, there's not a single enemy the Skaven are likely to find even remotely feminine or attractive. This is what they want to breed with. Skaven find non-Skaven disgusting.Anyway the correct answer is always Slaanesh. Maybe the generic barbarians too.
>>97996746>After slaughtering the horrible foul beast carrying that poor damsel while she was stuck in chain(mail)s she repeatedly sings me praises>"G-get off me you putrid creature somebody anybody help me!! Sigmar save my soul!!">No need to fear m'lady! Im a most chivalrous man and have saved you from being dragged away by the foul beast that had imprisoned you in it's back. Im a true warrior of class and nobility and it would be such a rude thing of me to let go of you without a proper kiss>"N-NO STOP MY ARMOUR WHAT ARE YOU DOING PLEASE HAVE MERCY">No need to worry o hearty damsel in distress for our lord shall marry us forever and ever and you shall be this great knight's lovely muse forever and ever! Forever and ever!More FEC rapefics and pathetic knight girls squieming after being defeated once we get another Death edition
>>97996034They are small because they are the descendants of the first ogors and gargants who stayed to live in the cities, becoming smaller over generations to adapt to the closed and reduced spaces of the cities, although it could also be due to the fact that city life is so comfortable that they don't have to fight for things like food, so they became smaller over time.
I think it went like this
>>97994359MAAAARGEWHO IS THIS HANDSOME MAN
>Just finished my models>It's gonna be to humid to varnish all week
>>97996267He just like me fr fr
>>97997554kek>>97997824Good opportunity to give em an extra detailing pass!
>>97997837I just did.
>>97994383I am convinced my computer is deleting images because I had just the image for this, but anyway the style of warmahordes is dated it's just no one ever talks about this specific "american 2rad 4u" gen xiennial look that was popular late 90s-mid 00s. Even their rulebook talks about how RAD and warhammer is FOR OLD GUYS and shit. It just oozes that Gen X douche beard TWOD Hot wheels Ghostbusters extreme look that was immensely popular with douchebags during that period and then disappeared from the public consciousness completely.The weirdest thing is that there's no nostalgia for this period either. People went from 40yo millennials posting 1989 florida neon and Orlando skylines from their childhood to gen alpha/late zoomer kids talking about 2009-2013 like Emo girls and skater boys were the hottest shit ever and posting in leetspeek and tumblr memes from 2011 and fucking homestuck. Like people have mostly memoryhold the 90s and early 00s, except for Nirvana and a couple other bands.
>>97994359mfw missed the Votann modelOh wellNow that I think about it, there was a fat old guy talking to the manager about votann on his motor scooter right as I walked in, he might have gotten the last one.>>97997811Right back at ya buddy
>>97997554If GW wants Age of S to have 'real tangible lore people can point to' they should extol on the backstory here.
>>97994985this shit fills me with visceral disgust
>>97996399>>97996141>>97996106Yeah they're sick. I bought them even though I don't play Cities. Have intended to play them in Warcry but haven't gotten around to it yet.What would you see in each army?I feel like a banner bearer is needed, for everyone.
>>97998027Most armies have banner beareres as separate units rather than comand guys.
>>97997969>I had just the image for thisIs it the one with two marines in the background?
>>97998571Yeah. And the warmahordes guy, I'm pretty sure, has the Gen X Douche Beard.
>>97998027>>97998462The banner guy is the lamest because he's basically just an alternate sculpt of the freeguild version.Anyway I feel like dedicated standard bearer units are the exception, I can only really think of the SC knight heraldor/vexillor, the KB murknob, the fyreslayer battlesmith and finally the seraphon astrolith guy. Though I'm probably forgetting a couple. Either way the vast majority of banners and standards are simply build options for regular units.
>>97997840Can never have too many extra detailing passes.Or you can buy a dehumidifier. >>97997969>The weirdest thing is that there's no nostalgia for this period either.There is, we just call them Warcraft fans.>>97998001KICK IT
>>97998619Lumineth guy
>>97998462But lots don't have them at all.>>97998619It should be a much larger banner/icon/trophy etc.Gitz already have Gobbapalooza, for my DoK I have as wondering what would they have.-big ass banner bearer. Banners in the army are tiny or non existent. Gives a buff, wholly within 18, gets +1 to hit or something -high executionertrix. A duelist type hero that kills stuff-darkling covens sorceress (they worked together in Anvilguard and are adjacent to them) who uses blood magic so spells and dispells-Meluasai ancient. One of the first created by Morathi. Can kind of fight, gives a buff different to the banner bearer, smaller range to it-slave who bears a huge cauldron of blood on their back. Any blood rites within X inches, they earn 2 rather than 1
>>97998637Yeah good catch>>97998662I'm wondering what a seraphon "command corps" would even look like.
>>97998731lizards already have a saurus banner bearer, so a skink one would make better sense, and at that point you might as well make the whole command group around skinks, and maybe specifically around sotek, with a sacrificial altar, a dude with prophetic tablets, a banner made of flayed rat skins, a snake chanter and a token saurian bodyguardand I'm not saying this because I want to see tehenahuin, poqenichi, lotl, and these two fuckers
>>97998731Make one up
>>97998731>I'm wondering what a seraphon "command corps" would even look like.Saurus combat guyBig Kroxigor keeping up a banner with a skink on his shoulder telling him what yo do.Chameleon spy guy.Wizard skink that conjours up a hologram of a Slann that rrmotly commands
>>97998764>>97998799My take on a command corps equivalent for lizards would be a bunch of variant spawnings of skinks (and maybe one or two sauruses for muscle).A guy blessed by sotek to have jurassic park fake dilophosaurus frills and acid spit A guy blessed by huanchi to have improved eyesight so he can snipe with his special blowpipeA guy blessed by quetzl to be covered in spikes (picrel) and offers defensive buffsEtc Basically taking a bunch of other lizards and applying the skink formula to them, if that makes sense.
>>97994985I appreciae GW highlighted the difference between an ogor and a full on giant, by having one wear full oversized uniform while other is too big to bother making one
>9/10 SCE players I know locally are doing the exact same medieval helmet head swaps, grimdark schemes or both.>Pic a random example from googleObligatory I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with it, it can look cool and you do you, but holy fuck it is starting to become a boring default. They even use the exact same heads from the exact same prints sometimes.Not helped by the implications of "The normal helmets look stupid" which indirectly infers my guys using the normal heads look worse for doing so. I'll admit the squidward faces in 4th aren't great but still.Or maybe it's the smashing a middle ages helmet on a roman/greek mythos style armour causing a visual clash that triggers my autism, idk.
>>97999093>roman/greek mythos style armournot with those armour plates, they aren't
>>97999093Could at least use a realistic helmet, budget helms are 12th century slop which is just daft on some 16th century inspired armour. It wasn't even ideal beyond cavalryI hate this crusade larper shit so much
>>97999104bucket helms - great helms
>>97999097I suppose for me it stems mostly from the sculpted muscle shapes on the breastplate, the large and broad panels and so on.Granted the greaves and boots are pretty medieval these days.I guess it's more how ubiquitous it's becoming I guess.
>>97999093Watch out you're going to set off the schizo who gets mad if you post random minis from the webAnyway I always liked the stormie masks but people have been making those knight headswaps for a decade+ at this point. Honestly the most surprising part of your post is that your lgs seems to have at least 10 stormcast players, all of which seem invested enough to even bother with headswaps.
>>97999104Locally it is usually these sallet helmets I see. Or some Dark Souls inspired design.
>>97999093People want knights, not fantasy marines.
Thoughts?
>>97999143Whatever it is I don’t care for it already.
>>97999143new mekboy or mekboy grot assistant connecting some electric thingamabob to some thing
i hate people who are historically picky about 8 foot tall superhuman reincarnated summons of the thunder god wearing armor thats a fusion of multiple cultural and chronological inspirations and also seems to change its design every edition.step off it
>>97999163I don't even get what you're crying about.
>>97999163For me it's less that and more 75% of SCE players I know are doing the same 'Dark Souls inspired' look with headswaps, often with the exact same heads, and largely grey colours. It's like if every single Marine player did the same chapter Ultramarines, perfectly fine until it's all you see. With a side-serving of "Your guys look dumb if you use the dumb default heads" being unspoken but implied.>>97999177I'm guessing they've seen similar griping a fair few times before. They have a point so I think it's less the aesthetic and more how it's the local default kek.
>>97999143>>97999149>>97999161Gargants my friends, gargants.
>>97999143Dwarf of some kind
Everytime I see someone try and use Bret heads or anything too historical on stormcast I grow to liking the death head masks more and more. Part of me does wish there were more varied helmets, preferably with more anthropomorphic designs, not in the Bretonian rubbish kind of way though. Would also help if they just kept the faceplates as a kind of masks rather than a full helmet. But that’s also a dumb concept. Also probably too space mariney.
an unusual uptick of aos fan art after the gate-gargants have been revealed
>>97999216I think they tried to meet half-way with the 4th ed helmets between helmet and face mask but people just said it looks like handsome squidward and now it's just perpetually cursed.If memory serves they're all supposed to show Sigmar's grim visage?
>>97999229Cowards, we've been giant brutish girl enjoyers for a while now.
>>97999143odd that there's no fingernails, so it must be some kind of clothing. but it doesn't look like a glove?
I blame the pointless noseguard and the sharp cheekbones. It makes it go from deathmask to... I'm not sure what it is now.If I ever do more guys with these heads included I might just go buy a pile of Vindicator or Vigilor heads to use instead.
>>97999198There's some OJ trial joke about the glove not fitting here
>>97999293Why does the new liberator here look like he's about to tell me I clearly don't own an air-fryer
>>97999143Mek ork for 40k
The galants are growing on me, though I think swapping the heads to be more uniforms helps, at least for me
>>97999311Eh swimming pool-core isn't exactly a good helmet look imo
>>97999308dont orks have claws?
>>97999143The size of those highlights makes me think the hand is bigger than it seems. Almost a candidate for Ogors.
>>97999143>Big hand/no claws or notable fingernails>crude leather wrappings and a leather glove/bracer with visible stitching>crude metal hiltI'm thinking Ogres
>>97999311yeah seeing them painted up in some different colours and whatnot has warmed me up to them a bit too
Also, with rumor engines, worth remembering that there's only five tomes left for 4E. Seraphon, Fyreslayers, Ogors, SoB, and Slaanesh, unless I'm forgetting one.
>>97999413End of edition campaigns can wild card anything
>>97999143>>97999286>>97999390
>>97999143its necromunda>>97999229AoS fanart should be shared more.
>>97999293disappointing that the difference between vindicator and liberator boils down to spear vs hammer. They should have kept the tower shield, and some more bulk wouldn't have hurt, these guys are the shield wall of SCE. Moving them to 3 wounds each would have also distinguished them even more, instead of always having three copy paste profiles where it's either whatever is cheapest or does the most damage.
>>97999425It’s fascinating to me how they managed to absolutely ruin an otherwise fantastic sculpt with such a fuck ugly head.
>>97999452>>>97999472genuinely what were they thinking
>>97999461>mfw Stormcast Eternal foot soldiers are the same points as a pack of gryphoundsNani the fuck
Is using different colors for different parts of my army a dumb idea (as opposed to a unifying color for everything)Plan so far is >ranged units get green as primary color>battleline and similar (steelhelms, grenadiers) get red>elite units (galants, cavaliers) get blue
>>97999652It could work if you keep all the other materials uniform.
>>97999668Thats the plan (more or less)
>>97999674drill yo barrels.
>>97999652>>97999674consider having some overlapping elements that aren't the neutral colors shared by everyonered as spot color on some parts of the ranged guys for example, an armband, or some patterns on the clothes or equipment
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>>97994283Soon
>>97999674Is this the kind of green you're going for? I like it.I would try and tie it together like that other guy said, but I think that's more of a personal preference.
>>97999425I like him
>>97999143today I will remind them.
>>98000173Good shout. I was thinking it was a meat cleaver but this is much closer.
>>98000173an anchor would have a thicker ring
new soulbound book up for salehttps://cubicle7games.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-chaosbound-cardgrad-adventures?utm_campaign=ChoCh_CA&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_content=1777990689
>>98000316I'm still assmad they basically dropped it for Foundry modules, they only do the 40k ones now.Yeah you can technically piece together all the later races and archetypes yourself but it is a pain in the ass and we'll probably never see a Chaos version.
>>98000316I still cannot find the fucking champions of chaos book anywhere
>>98000346gofile.io/d/XSEFt8there you go, anon
>>98000359hell yeah thanks dude, maybe someday one of my local game shops will have a physical copy.ACTUALLY SHIT? Is it digital only?
>>98000346Looks like the physical version hasn't shipped yet
>>98000362Physical release is Q3/4 this year, C7 does this with all their books, so early PDF readers are basically paying for the privilege to proofread the RPG books
>>98000362i think the physical copy gets released some time this year according to c7 aka in the next 10 years at the earliest.
>>98000173Not a bad call
>>97999143Black skinned ogre
>>98000173>>97999143It also looks like an orruk weapon
>>97999652Ok, its not AoS or GW figures, but regiments having individual coat colours is not outlandish (this is meant to be English Civil War) Just figure out a unifying 'field sign' or colour motif per >>97999668 and >>97999732, (sashes, flowers or papers in hat bands for instance), and it can be done.Of course, expectations matter; I expect to see this sort of mix-up going into a 17th century game (though I did similar to an old Empire army), it might be more of a 'shock', for want of a better word, for the Warhammer ecosystem. However, even in this you have a sort of precedent with Blood Angels helmet colours in 40k, though obviously not as extreme.
>>98000494I got so god damn paranoid for a second and thought you were that perry freak when I saw this image
>>98000510lmao same desu
>>98000473Ironjawz have fingernails on their models tho
>>98000494Damn that base to model size ratio is gucking huge
What does Tzeentch get up to? I don't read much about him in the lore. I'd download some of the battletomes, but ehh
>>98001030He likes fucking up lumineth, civilization in general, and he really fucking hates khadrons. He turned the realm of chamon into a fuckin nightmare as well which is why that map is near illegible.
>>98001050>and he really fucking hates khadrons. He turned the realm of chamon into a fuckin nightmare as wellwhat the fuck was his problem anyway?
>>97999143Dwarf
Anyone got the Carngrad Adventures pdf for soulbound?
>>97998027Honestly if GW were cool and it was like 15 years ago, you'd have options of models to include in your command squad at points costs.
Still wild to think this edition opened with "Sigmar Lied!".I don't think its come up at all since pre-release right?
>>98001184for them to expand on that they would need to release more stormcast. quieres?
>>98001152i am also looking for the ruins of the past pdf.
The only correct way to paint stormcast is with fleshtones.
>>98001184it came up in the very same launch trailer lolit was a nothingburger, as anyone with a brain would have anticipated.
>>98001184I never really understood what he even lied about supposedly.Didn't we already know stormcasting gives you lightning dementia since like 1st edition?Furthermore, they introduced the concept of sigmar's mercy which nullifies the whole grimdark aspect anyway? You can just send any stormcast who's too far gone to """live on a farm upstate""" now (which fucking sucks by the way)
Please tell me they aren't making Sigmar into a hammer guy who wants to merge realms. Shang Tsung is better therefore this makes Sigmar an inferior character.
>>98001267I thought the lie was the stormvaults
>>98000510>>98000534Purely a passing visitor briefly unlurking, but hope that some ACTUAL AoS figs (regimental colours, to continue the theme!) can act as an apology.>>9800059960mm frontage x 30mm depth, 4 pike figures, 3 for musketeers. It's more "warmaster" style unit basing than for individual casualty removal, though I do base some that way (like flag boy here) in case I play that sort of game.We now return you to your scheduled programming...
>>98001330that is a very nice slaanesh banner
>>98001307would that make Archaon Liu Kang?
>>98001345Yes, and Kurdoss is Johnny Cage
>>98001030He used to have a beef with Kharadron, but got his ass beat in Aether War and pivote to messing with Lumineth wizards
>>98001562That's a rather skinny dwarf
>>98001267>I never really understood what he even lied about supposedly.To un-bullshitify it a little, the lie I think was that the Stormcast are eternal. In truth they all have an expiration date. Even if it is centuries, they essentially get used up, worn out and have to get taken out back like Old Yella. Worse, there's no afterlife for them, no final reward or peace. Just oblivion as their soul is utterly destroyed, or what's left of it is just snuffed out for the sake of ending their suffering.Was it done well and communicated properly? Not at all. But I can see the vision, I just wish it wasn't so... eh.I'll take it over the bullshit ideas like "There should be Chaos/Traitor Stormcast" which is completely asinine and an anathema to their entire concept. That concept came up a LOT with people thinking 4th would begin some kind of AoS Heresy or some shit. People genuinely shit on AoS for copying Space Marines and then turn around and go "-they should be MORE like Space Marines!" to the point of just aping their story beat for beat.The "lie" was a pile of meh but I still tangibly sighed and relaxed with relief that it wasn't that.
>>98001746Yeah, I'm just left scratching my head as to why they pushed this as some sort of big oh shit reveal when we knew about that for ages. But yeah at least it wasn't chaos stormcast.My prediction was that it's turn out to be that stormcast aren't supposed to save the realms, but avenge themSeemed like the grimdark angle they were trying to push
>>98001267He lied about us getting sickass Lightning Geists, when instead the Ruination Chamber ended up being just what regular Stormcast should have always looked like.
>>98001785>Yeah, I'm just left scratching my head as to why they pushed this as some sort of big oh shit reveal when we knew about that for ages.I'm not 100% sure if we knew they had an expiration date outright. We knew they had the dementia and other gradually sapping of humanity, but we didn't know they had to start being locked up in a cross between an old folks home and an asylum before eventually becoming nothingness. The belief was that they eventually just became golems in armour without a lick of personality, which was shitty but it is different to what we got now.But really it's just not as significant as they hyped it up to be. Interesting but not worthy of the 'Sigmar Lies' headline.I reckon it was to subdue the room-temp IQ whining that Stormcast "can't lose" or "have no consequences for dying" (None of those mother fuckers have read an AoS book and it shows, or even consider that if a Stormhost gets TPK'd in a battle then the mortals theywere fighting with are FUCKED and an entire city/region/half a realm is FUCKED and when they do get reforged they've now got to live with those consequences but ssssh).>PicMade some progress on my Celestial Vindicator Liberators. I dunno why my camera makes things seem oddly lumpy and more blue tinted but hey ho. I'm liking it so far but wanna try some different contrasts and speedpaints on the rest to see if I can get a nicer result for the black.Side note, fuck doing metallics on small bits of a model that shit dries in seconds before you get it from palette to model unless you drench the brush in them.
>>98001813I'm still hoping we get big-ass animated statues like it is described in some of the novels, one of the cathay giant statues but as a Stormcast would be extremely sick you have no idea.>Lord-Incantor, what should we do with all these Lightning Geists we have lying around?>Lord-Incantor takes a fat drag from his blunt>Bassboosted (From multiple reforgings)>JUST SHOVE THEM IN ONE OF THOSE STATUES IN THE GARAGE AND SEND THEM AT THE ENEMY>As you will, my lord
>>98001746>Worse, there's no afterlife for them, no final reward or peace. Just oblivion as their soul is utterly destroyed, or what's left of it is just snuffed out for the sake of ending their suffering.At the very least, Morrda is directly involved in the power that allows Lord Terminos to permakill other Stormcast and that the event itself is seen as giving final peace.They explicitly say that no one knows what happens to their souls and that they do not appear in any Shyish afterlife, but they could simply be skipping that step and going straight to the actual beyond that all ghosts in Shyish eventually disappear into.
>>98001655He ate a fairly small amount of McDonalds for an below-average-sized person
>>98001184>>98001247>>98001267I found the lie
>>98001927>2024Damn gw are stone cold
>>98001821>I reckon it was to subdue the room-temp IQ whining that Stormcast "can't lose" or "have no consequences for dying"Honestly a lot of the things gw does seems to be geared towards reassuring the sloptuber watching guys and getting them to try out a starter set or something. See also tlw's whole "GUYS IT'S ALL ONE WORLD NOW GUYS THERE'S A MAP" thing.Anyway cool stormies anon. I found an old start collecting kit on ebay for a good price, figure I could run it as the skaventide spearhead to get a feel for the minis and the rules. Stormcast do look pretty fun to be paint, I mean they were practically created for it.
>>98001937If memory serves it boils down to a messy divorce between the Old World team (forgeworld?) and mainline GW. They basically drew lots on who got to keep the kids (There's a goat pun in there somewhere) and BoC ended up in old world. I'm hoping they'll be back in an AoSified form eventually like High Elves->Lumineth... but if they're some bastardised overdesigned version of my goat boys I'll be mad.>>98002072I won't lie there's times when it is very clear these people looked at the lore maybe ONCE in First Edition, or got some shitty incorrect retelling of it from a 40k fan/jaded WHFB fan/Total War fan whoever played fantasy anyway (The latter is weirdly common), and then continued to regurgitate vastly outdated and incorrect takes a full decade later. It would be like referring to 40k as if it was still Rogue Trader's weird and ball-tripping lore when we all know damn well after a few years it became what we know today.>Stormcast do look pretty fun to be paint, I mean they were practically created for it.I actually put them off for ages because I didn't like playing the poster boy faction, but I got tired of painting brown (Sylvaneth), the ossiarch 4th Ed book is kinda shit, and with a doubles tournament coming up and my teammate playing Sylvaneth already I had to dust off the Skaventide set I bought when 4e launched. And I ended up liking them more than I thought I would.Listening to some SCE Audiobooks helped a lot to flesh them out in my head (Just finished Stormvault), I was tied between Hallowed Knights and Celestial Vindicators for ages. But then I decided an army of Doomguys was pretty kickass.>pic related to both
>>98002156Pretty much yeah, I think letting beastmen go was probably the price aos paid for getting to keep skaven and ogres and whatnot. They were never really much popular in aos to begin with, so I guess they were the sacrificial lamb (heh) for the specialist team>vastly outdated and incorrect takes a full decade laterHalf the time it's not even outdated stuff, just things that are and always have been wrong.Prime example is malerion supposedly fusing with his dragon, or muh multiverses
>>98002156>If memory servesNo, a youtuber with no credentials made it up. One who is repeatedly wrong and only right when regurgitating TGA leaks weeks later as his own. TGA leakers said nothing about it.
>>980012671st edition reforging was new and rare. Characters were cautious about those reforged just once, though they all received blessings that while separating them from humanity were more saintly in nature; Gardus glows and has an aura of inspiration. 2e onwards just gets grim but I think the lie is the idea of the extremity being an error. Sacrosanct and their quest for a solution were dropped, the pathway forward is executions and containment. Vandus is imprisoned between battles he's dragged to where he's unleashed in a frenzy. But the lie is probably more general as I'm his dominance in saving the realms - the age of sigmar, where chaos is pushed back, is currently in an era of chaos ascendancy that's ending in a looming apocalypse
>>98002313Fair enough.Still sucks to release the best book they've ever had, a new hero sculpt, a vanguard box set and hint at their growing prominence across several novels... Then kick them to the curb.Ghosteater in Black Pyramid was great.>Lion headed rather than goat>Is sick of his kind being used as fodder>Learns tactics from Slaaneshi warlord pretending to be a useful brute>Unite the herds supposedly to help with their great battle>When the Chaos Warriors need them to take the brunt of a Stormcast assault every single goat is suddenly fucking gone>Fucks off with united herd leaving the warbands to get butchered>Book ends with him talking philosophy with a priest of Sigmar Absolute gigachad.Pity he's almost certainly never going to appear again. It seems AoS is allergic to reoccurring Chaos characters that aren't from WHFB. Let alone ones from a dead faction. Mind you they also have an issue of not following up on cliffhangers in older AoS books in general.
>>97995594Being confined in small spaces will fuck your growth in AoS. Ugluc the small troll from Underworlds didn't grow much because the goblins made him stay in small caves.
>>97995594I'm getting the cogfort but it's a split on if I wanna get these guys too.If I can RoR them to be a gunshield for SOB i'm going all in.
Assembling the new skaven and thinking to myself that maybe metal is the better material.
>>98003273What's the issue, fiddly kit?
>>98003285night runners have lots of small nighthaunt tier parts
>>98003329RETVRN or whatever the kids say these days
>>98003332even as a grog that loves the look of old kits these are honestly fucking awful
>>98003366I think they have a charm to them but yeah, it's outrageous something that outdated was still being sold. I wonder what the oldest model still available is now, the Eldar Falcon?
>>98003332I'm gonna be honest the only thing in the new skaven range I'd want to go back on is make the rat ogres more like the isle of blood ones. The new ones are good but a bit too muddled and freakish. I dig the frankenstein vibe over the cyberpunk vibe
>>98003396>I wonder what the oldest model still available is now, the Eldar Falcon?As a full kit still for sale, I think it's the falcon. If you allow for parts of kits I don't think the basilisk gun was updated, it's from 95 (?). But the chassis is newer.
>>98003329So they have a few hanging chains? Hardly an issue
>>98002313Tga leakers have talked about exactly that thoughbeit
>>98003396the oldest model in aos now is the humble skink
>>98003738Good image
>>98003738Number two is surely the plague monk kit, but I wonder about third place. Maybe chaos spawn?
>>98003738>>98003765Are monks realy newer than plastic skinks?
>>980038202003 vs 2005, yeah
>>98003765>Number two is surely the plague monk kityou would think so, but it's dryads
>>98003868Apparently plague monks were released in june 2005, and the dryads in august 2005. Plague monks are just barely older by two months.Settles the question of 3rd place though, good shout.
>>98003738Those skinks hold up pretty well, honestly
>>98003903Yeah they're one of the few plastic kits released in that transitional period that have actually stood the test of time. Compare them to the contemporary saurus knights for example, night and day.Anyway, sort of related to the dragon discussion of last thread, but would you guys say the deepmare is kind of the idoneth dragon equivalent? Or is it more on par with say a griffin or a hippogryph?
Last one done
>>98001345Archaon is Raiden cause he must Consult the Chaos gods
>>98003923>contemporary saurus knightsthe ones you're thinking about came later
>>98003923>would you guys say the deepmare is kind of the idoneth dragon equivalent? Or is it more on par with say a griffin or a hippogryph?too small for a dragonby modern size creep that's a pegasus equivalent, or at best a small griffin
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>>98003968Holy fuck the deepmare is pitiful, why didn't they just give all akhelians a deepmare instead of an eel at this point?
>>98003957Only like a year or two later right?>>98003968Works pretty well
>>98003983same release wave as the plague monks for the lustria supplementyou have no idea of my young self's disappointment when I went to buy these >>98003957 after marveling at them on the armybook only to be told they had replaced them with these goofy shits instead I'll never forgive carden for this and the dread saurian
>>98004050>same release wave as the plague monks for the lustria supplementIt was a cursed release all around, since that's where the old plastic rat ogres also came from.Except for the metal models, those were cool.
>army has like 15 different wizards>faction leader also a big head honcho wizard>no good warscroll spells>multiple spell lores, all crap>endless spells also suck>faction leader mega wizard is worse than many armies basic wizardshow does this happen? how do the rules writers fail an assignment this badly?
>>98003968deepmares about on par with the stormcast "lord whatever on gryphogryph" size mounts
>>98004086"Lol get it? They're le whacky goblins and are random and weak! Lol i'm so funny"-rules guy
>>98004050Remind me how the previous (so the one before these) saurus cav worked again, I think the riders were metal but I can't remember if the cold ones were already plastics.Regardless yeah a lot of the minis released in this general period were almost straight downgrades. I'm not talking about aesthetic choices, just the level of detail kind of dropped for a while.
Urak taar update. Been having fun on this guy but I'm so ready to be done with the bull. I want to paint that cool lightning effect, man.
>>98004086>I'm playing Grots because I want strong Lumineth level casters Just admit you don't like Grots? They're shitty little cunts high on shrooms. They should have some fun miscast tables and something like a eat a shroom for +1 to cast but miscast happens on any pair or something >MUH BALANCE
>>98004180Riders were metal, cold ones were plastic and the same from the dark elves of the same period except for the metal head of the champion's cold one.
>>98004086destruction in general is not allowed to be good ever, probably because of picrel, but gits especially suffer from this>>98004237nowhere does that anon complain about the quality of the casters, but rather of the spells themselves
>>98004265BCR were so cool, it's a shame they're being soft-retconned away.
Could someone with a Warhammer + account watch the Cubicle 7 interview to see which games they talk about in it, please.
>>98004237this is exactly the mentality the rules writers take when writing destruction and its why its consistently the worst performing armies in the game every edition.just because something has goofy theming doesnt mean it needs to suck
>>98004265>faction leader mega wizard is worse than many armies basic wizards
>>98004086i get it. khorne has a similar problem, where every other priest in the game is better than slaughterpriests.
>>98004290didn't rumours state new Mournfang and a hunter with sabres is coming?
>>98004190The cleaned up glow effect looks ace anon.The base is kinda boring though.
>>98004050Trash Carden is a shit sculptor, full story at 11.
>>98004315It means that destruction is the gamblers faction, it can take big swings up but risks underperforming for its points.Oh course, in this age of bland, shitty boring rules writing, it just means they suck because units are not allowed to have fun big swings. So destruction remains trash
are you going to see the new stormcast movie?
>>98004190Looking good, anon. Saw you had a bit of trouble with the glowing lines but glad you got that fixed.
>>98004396Thanks man, went through a lot of iterations of the glow before settling on where it is now.As for the base, I'm fine with it being boring. It's set dressing to me at most, so I threw on some black on the rocks and grey-brown on the trees and then did the rest my normal way. Basing isn't really my strong suit, so as long as it's serviceable it's fine to me.
>>98004443You have no idea, man. Trying to get green to glow on top of an already light gold was no easy task. Though it turned out I'd been using the wrong paints the whole time. Once I got some Vallejo fluo green it finally looked like a glowing energy instead of a sloppy green mess.
>>98004190looks gr8 m8
>>98004190This thing keeps reminding me of spyro graphics.
>>98004402she's alright just needs to stick to dragons
>>98004420>Stormcast join the Nolan cinematic univers>Stormcast are big guys>Bane was a big guyIs AoS a Dark Knight Rises origin story?
>>98003978I don’t know how a living being can come to this conclusion >>98003964I really don’t like tows size creep. It’s somehow more egregious there than in Aos.
>>98004315exactly, you can have flavour that is also balanced and competitively viable
>>98004190looks awesome so far>dudes on the leftHow did they manage to fuck up dwarfs with guns? Seriously they look like lesbians
progress on this sloven knight. doing 2 of these at the same time to finish the trio
>>98004524oh cool wip anonactually, how much of a pain in the ass do you think it would be to weaponswap these guys? heard they're extremely monobuild
>>98004560tyIt should be easy. Just cut the top part of the weapons at the shaft above the hand and glue w/e else you want.sadly the only option you get is a helmeted or bare head. I think it comes with 4 helmeted heads. I was very dissapointed that it only came with 3 weapons
I wanna field a list full of these fat bastards and play Wii Bowling without switching to Ogors or S2D. What's the play here?
>>98004521It's the missing shoulder pads. The bare arms don't look very good with the chest armor and makes their arms look way skinnier than they should.Look at the leader with shoulder pads here next to the ones without. It's night and day.
>>98004639Convince your playgroup to play the earlies 3e rules when spaming 20 of those was tier 1
working on tornus
>>98004394Just Mournfang are being refreshed, but even then they've been slowly soft-retconned into not being BCR
>>98004682>Just Mournfang are being refreshed,and the stonehorns too. >ven then they've been slowly soft-retconned into not being BCRwhat are you on about.
>>98004699>BCR not really being mentioned anymore>When they are it's "Oh yeah btw loads of them don't even have the everwinter anymore">BCR units just grouped with regular Ogres without any winter effects>No BCR heroes mentioned in the new battletome, indicates a lack of care from GW on them>The lore for how Ogres live, including the Mawpaths, makes no sense for BCR tribes yet no alternative is given, again implying GW wants us to forget they exist.
>>98004788okay anon thank you for proving you're an idiot.
>>98004639stormcast are not a "move forward and hit things" armythey are fragile, dont have significant charge mortal wounds, have limited strike first, and these guys only move 10" so they usually get charged firstyou have to play with screens and/or shooting
>>98004596Yeah same here, stellar looking kit but very little in the way of options. Same with the new blight kings.At least rotswords come with enough that it should be doable to switch some around. Thanks anon.
>>98004841Isn’t it funny how that works? Big armored dudes aren’t actually a tanky army.
>>98004678Ohh watch out! Those wings are the wrong color!
>>98004682Fuckin cowabummer I already have some Mournfangs, but also I can't imagine what they'd really change since the beast design is perfectly fine, honestly one of the best models in the current range (other than the sickass cannon)
>>98005043No, they aren't, they're green like on the official model.
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>>98004699>and the stonehorns too.There are currently no rumors about refreshed Stonehorns
>>97995926I hope someone makes a cute replacement head for her. Prettiest lass on the British isles not doing it for me.