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News & Reminders
Play landfall or blue/red, lmao
Full Strixhaven in MTG Forge

Spoilers for next sets somewhere here:
https://scryfall.com

Useful Links
https://pastebin.com/QFA0hqaA
https://github.com/Card-Forge/forge/releases
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I
WILL
MAKE
STORM
HAPPEN
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HELLO I AM BAD AT MAGIC WHAT DO I CUT
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>>97997267
All your blue except stallion and outburst, and arcane omens to boot. Your mana's fucked.
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>>97997336
Dont listen to this nigga xirs soul is tainted your deck is beautiful however u build it.
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alright then if you guys are so good figure out how I improve the all-in list

every card seems to have a place but I've seen a bit underperform by highway robbery, which should be 2x more critiques to burn wildcards but maybe something else
some options like
>winternight stories
>three steps ahead
>leyline weaver
>llanowar elves to just be faster
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>>97997336
i ALTERNATED WITH AND WITHOUT OMENS
LOST ME MORE GAMES THAN WON ME TBHSENPAI
6 WINS THO SOMEHOW
GONNA DRAFT AGAIN
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>>97997511
okay scratch that image
in fact forget I posted it

THIS is 100% the build holy shit this is actually competitive now
leyline weaver can be targeted by electroduplicate to go mana positive
I've comboed off like 9/10 times I popped off with a single plotted trailblazer to start, never had to untap with a battlecrier surviving
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Goofy ass trophy. You can really feel the dread when the second tidecaller hits the field
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/turbofog/ tomorrow
I have a new build ready & tested
Also realizing there are common mdfcs led me to wondering if spy is viable
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As soon as my deck starts performing a little too well, I suddenly start getting mana screwed and getting shit draws every fucking game. This is some sort of psyop
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Naturally crafting Izzet lands is the move because the ervs fucking love this color combination. But what would be the second place in the color tier list?
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help improve my deck
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First ever 7-0, guess that going for more than 2 colours is perfectly viable huh
Also Scolding Administrator (with Graduation Day) is a disgusting card, basically won three matches on his own
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>>97998536
>splash for red
>doesn't run one of the best cards in the pool
sloth is better than any of the red cards you're running
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>>97998545
>implying I ever got to 4 mana
I only ever played the Tackle Artist once, so I swapped out the Sloth at some point for the extra Flourish
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>>97998479
+ chocobo
+1/2 icetill
+3/4 escape passage
+1/2 earthbender ascension

that's a must. you need to maximise your landfall chances. the rest is fluff, i'd maybe cut 2 tifas, and add some Harmonisers. Maybe a Surak or two. Bite Down and Ouroborid are bad against control decks, but work well against mirror matches. Hyrda is Elemental, so great against bounceback elementals deck. Keen-Eye is greens graveyard protection. Ba Sing, and Sapling Nursery great against board wipes. Nature's Rythm plays really well with Baloths, Cub's and Ouroborids. Search for Cub, then Ouroborid/Icetil is normal play, but it can also search for Baloth and do haste 3 damage for a kill a lot of times. Add depending on what's currently played.
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>historic brawl
>facing The First Sliver
>0 slivers in this deck btw
>play perfectly with the cards I draw, get him down to 1 life
>he drops one with the multiverse into emergent ultimatum
>ultimatum cards are expropriate, breach the multiverse and omniscience, I send expropriate back into his deck bc I don't want him to get extra turns
>breach + omniscience gets him Uro to get off 1hp, then he's able to tutor and play expropriate anyway, say money so he only gets one extra turn
>on his one extra turn he runs out his commander, cascades into idek what, cycles and clones Uro to stabilize his life, then once he plays something that allows him to replay all his instants and Sorcs from the GY I just conced
Burn 5c slop at the stake
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Whoa i bought a pack of strixhaven and it gave me ten packs is this a glitch? Only lost 200 gems.
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wow sissy this totally is the first time you try this

this is why i don't post, these threads are an endless repetition of transsexualisms
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>>98000595
>this is why i don't post
I thought it was because your reddit moderating duties kept you too busy.
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this storm deck spanks

opponent removes my dorks on turn 1 and turn 2
I plot trailblazer on turn 3 and pass
opponent plays out their threats and taps out
go into turn 4 with nothing but a plotted trailblazer and nothing on board
win game on turn 4

Didn't even get to do the full combo, he conceded when I had 2x trailblazer+battlecrier on board and cast michelangelo's technique for my full remaining {1G} and tapped out, hitting another trailblazer + firesinger which drew 2 cards and added {RRRRR} with sorc schemes ready

I've played several games so far where opponent sweeps my board and I just untap and win on the spot
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>>97997075
G/W is a ridiculous color combo. Every card of theirs I see is silly.
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Here's your /mtgag/ approved mwm list for free wins sisters
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>>98002389
>he needs to play all that faggy stuff for free wins
jajaja
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>>98002389
I just played red, needed more Crash Throughs but I still won easy. Wild ride from the gy on Firedancer is huge damage.
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>3 mana 2/3 with menace is a sub 50% WR card
how?
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>>98002782
Because that's a bad rate? Shopkeep is literally this guy with infusion tacked on, and strangler was shit even back then.
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7-2 in Plat with this deck
Any good?
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Why the fuck is Forum Necroscribe a D card?
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Hello it is I
the man who is bad at magic
what do I cut?
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>>98002924
I haven't been very impressed with Inkling mascot, maybe drop one or two of those
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>>98002924
necorscribe is trash, immediate cut. nothing else in your deck is truly bad, but there are a few cards that are below average
silverquill is aggressively meh, he's just a french vanilla body. maybe if you had the rare that churned out tokens, but you have pretty much no spells its worth sac'ing a card to copy
debater is statistically not very good. its another french vanilla body unless you throw more cards at it
dustspeaker is better than those 2 according to data, but its also expensive in a deck that probably wants to close out games early. you already have mascots, administrator and maybe silverquill for evasive bodies

cutting silverquill is probably the right move to drop your curve. you want to rush them down, you have like no late game value and 3 scaling early drops.
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>>98003252
Necroscribe is clunky but turning every pump spell into a reanimate is stupidly strong
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what's the worst midweek magic format and why is it Momir?
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>>98003310
he has 10 spells that trigger repartee, and none of them are recursive. the odds of him getting to 6 mana, dropping necroscribe, then having a spell to target with after untapping is slim to none
and the 17lands data has it as one of the worst cards in the set that's isn't actively detrimental or useless
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>>98003380
Fair enough, I tend to give a bit more weight than the raw data otherwise suggests to any card I've seen win a game, but after 50+ games that does start to lead to random moonshots.
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>>98003322
Historic pauper
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>grixis affinity gutted
>jund wildfire untouched
lol lmao
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>3k gemmies

stay drafting!
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>>97999166
>concede
you full stop every phase and rope that nigger, than quit so the retard plays with his own shit alone
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Are there any cards I can run to fetch combo pieces early in Pioneer? I’m running a fundamentally good combo but it can’t all be out until turn 6 at the earliest (and that’s assuming perfect draws) and I keep getting fucked on because of it. I’m running a Mardu midrange deck if that matters. I don’t want to clutter my deck too much with non-creatures/non-damage spells and I already have a few in there to protect my enchantments and fish them back out of the graveyard.
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>>98006707
Turn 6 is way too slow in pioneer, you'd be better off focusing on being able to interrupt whatever your opponent is up to until you can play whatever janky combo you're using. There are tutors in black but is it better than running thoughtseize and efficient removal?
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>>98006707
Case of the stashed skeleton, grim tutor, diabolic tutor, idyllic tutor, demonic bargain, wishclaw talisman
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>from 0-2 to 5-2
Thank god another draft for me
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>Lost to fucking Infect in SoS draft
Not even mad, just genuinely fucking impressed.
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>>98006671
I'm not spiteful enough to waste my own time roping someone even if they probably deserve it
I'd rather just get into another game and then complain later on a Mongolian throat singing website
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>>98005751
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yo what the fuck is this lmao

I queued up with a meme deck because my rank is too high and I don't want to go mythic and get long queue times, so I grind some losses. But I don't lose on purpose. So I'm running a deck with:
>4 buried treasure
>4 gleaming barrier
>4 gold pan
>4 page, loose leaf
>4 ugin
>4 fix whats broken
>4 enigma jewel
and somehow the #441 ranked sweaty nerd lost to me on his annex deck
I beat him with gold pans and gleaming barriers
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Turn 1 Thoughtseize? fucking blow me faggot
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IN WHAT WORLD IS 17 LANDS GOOD IM FLOODING EVERY FUCKING GAME
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>>98006909
I can run Thoughtseize but then I have to cut some of my Healing Magics, although idk I have a fuckload of lands I guess I could cut from to make room
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>>98009130
Just cut down to 16 then :)
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>>98006707
Whats the combo shitlord that would help a lot.
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>>98008422
Thats the saddest shit ive ever heard. Gleaming barrier is a fucking terrible magic card lmao.
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>>98009289
The combo in question is Mogis, God of Slaughter + Trespasser’s Curse + Tainted Remedy. The goal isn’t for the combo to be my win con, it’s just there to apply pressure so my aristocrats can get big and their thing.

Full decklist:
8 Swamp
4 Mountain
4 Plains
2 Evolving Wilds
3 Nomad Outpost
2 Blood Crypt
2 Sacred Foundry
2 Godless Shrine
2 Reconstruct History
1 Sorin, Solemn Visitor
2 Mogis, God of Slaughter
4 Crackling Doom
2 Bloodthirsty Aerialist
2 Lightning Helix
3 Trespasser's Curse
3 Boot Nipper
2 Qarsi Revenant
2 Cast Down
2 Valorous Stance
1 Aurelia, the Law Above
2 Archangel of Thune
2 Tainted Remedy
3 Restoration Magic
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This fat chinese elf is pretty good. I cast Culling Ritual with her out, wiped out opps 6 elf dorks, cast Sheoldred then renewed the Culling ritual back to my hand with the free mana and they conceded immediately.
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>>98009845
so much fucking mana before you get anything
you need to spend

SEVEN MANA
AFTER UNTAPPING
AFTER A CREATURE SURVIVES
AFTER HAVING 8+ LANDS
AFTER BEING ABLE TO ATTACK
AFTER SURVIVING COMBAT BECAUSE SORCERY LOL

all that to get to the point its can get more combo pieces than a 2 mana instant speed auroral regrowth that's standard legal or more board presence than an eternal witness
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If you could haw swung for lethal three turns in a row while I’m empty-handed and you choose not to just to set up a bigger “fuck you” combo I am gonna rope you on every phase of your last turn, eat shit
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Liliana of the Cloth {1WW}
Legendary Planeswalker - Liliana
{+2}: Each player exiles a card from their hand and seals it. (For as long as it remains exiled, they may play that card. Spells cast this way cost {2} more to cast and lands played this way enter tapped).
{-1}: Exile target creature and seal it.
{-6}: Target opponent separates all permanents they control into two piles. Exile all permanents from the pile of your choice and seal them.
{3 loyalty}
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>>98009957
I cast it on turn 3 and won the game on turn 4. It enters prepared, you don't need 8 lands or to attack with it.
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>I need help working out the kinks in my deck so I can get this combo out and win more reliably
>“hurr durr it would help to know the combo dipshit”
>okay here’s the combo and the rest of the decklist also
>no response for hours
What’s the fucking point
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You were given advice, retard
Frankly your deck is utter dogshit and you're very lost running draft chaff in an eternal format
Listen to the people who have been here longer than you or piss off
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These pauper Midweeks makes me sad on the fact that we don’t have an actual pauper ladder on Arena.

A man can dream…
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>>98009597
4x thoughseize
4x Fatal Push
Some amount of Get Lost or Erode maybe. Sheoldred's Edict instead of Crackling Doom. But honestly, this is some serious jank. I'm not surprised you keep getting your shit pushed in. Cast down is not good in pioneer with Greasefangs and Sheoldreds in every other deck. Go for the Throat is the standard, even Shoot the Sheriff would be a better choice. Boot Nipper is a wild choice, find a better 2 drop.
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>>98009845
idk, i think all of them are just a bit too slow. You cast it on t3, then need to wait another turn to cast the spell, and that spell is then taking 2 of your mana...
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How do i learn to draft? New mtg player here. What do you start with? How many lands? In general how do you know the card is good for draft
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>>98010182
>>98010259
This and also eat that guys cum do it now. Some of us sleep retard.
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I had fun in a draft today.
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>>98010655
Yea I didn't think much of it either but Emeritus of Cake plays out better than I expected. If I have her and a better creature out you basically have to kill her before you can take out the better creature or I'll just get it back and play it out again.
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>>98010841
There's sites that can bury you up to your eyeballs in raw data like "percentage of players who won the game after having card X in their hand" but for a very new player your best bet is going to be using a site like scryfall to look at the entire set so you know what the cards are and what they do, and then drafting. Typically you want a 40 card deck with roughly 23 spells and 17 lands, and most of your spells should be creatures. Try to draft a curve where most of your spells cost 2-3 mana with a smaller number of cheaper and more expensive spells. Sets these days are made with very explicit draft lanes where a small number of color combinations have mechanical support, so as long as you stay in one of those lanes there's a pretty high floor of basic functionality.

Beyond that, the single best way to learn to draft and see what cards are effective is to draft a bunch. Watch videos of other people drafting. Think about what happened differently in games you won vs. games you lost, and try to distinguish between results-oriented thinking and natural variance in outcomes.
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>>98010841
Outside of niche cases, you'll probably want 17 lands. Other than that, it can vary a lot. They list the draft archetypes for each set in the events now, you'll want to look through those. Usually it's safe to build along those lines. You'll learn good cards through experience, basically stuff that affects the board at a decent rate will be good.
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>>98010841
You draft a card of each mana value up to five and repeat until you have a deck and play 16-17 lands make sure its all creatures and you should win every game.
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>>98010357
Pauper's very creature centric from what I've seen, quite fun
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Refer to filename for FUN DECK
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>>98002389
damn did I miss a Pauper event?
only good MTGA constructed format
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why does Favelaining_Rayne always hide their gem count when trying to brag?
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bro, I don't fucking CARE you are actively dilating your rotting colonpussy filled with genderfluid, pus, and hair
you DONT have to signal that when you play this, ok dude?
fucking trannies I swear
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>>98010841
17lands.com
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>>98002924
>>98002857
>>97998536
>>97997950
>>97997608
>>97997267
transsexual hiding its gems, ofc the abomination keeps real quiet about it
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>>98013410
Come on sweetie pie, you know it's gauche to show off all those gemmies you bought me~
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>>98009957
>this creature enters prepared
reading the card explains the card, retard
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>>98013717
NTA and unrelated to your post
But are there any advantages to a creature having an exhaust ability compared to a prepared spell? Both are shut down by the same stuff (Pithing Needle or Cursed Totem) but casting a prepared spell activates all non-creature synergies while activating an ability synergies with fuckall
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>>98013717
and reading the post explains the post, retard

Now go read the card again
Now go read the post again
Now go read the card again
Now go read the post again

>all that to get to the point its can get more combo pieces than a 2 mana instant speed auroral regrowth that's standard legal or more board presence than an eternal witness

For 3 mana you can get a 2/1 body + regrowth
For 2 mana you can get regrowth at instant speed
This is 5 mana for a 3/4 body + regrowth which is a pointless upgrade over witness, so you need to pay SEVEN mana before you've something that does more than those options
And that means you need to:
>pay 7 mana
>untap with this easily killable creature
>have it survive combat
>have 8 lands out
>over the course of 2+ turns minimum, 3+ if you want to do it before turns 5/6

Just because it enters prepared doesn't mean the first cast is free retard, it takes 7 mana to regrowth 2 cards
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>>98013180
problem is that its red/blue, if it was white/black nobody would be playing it, but they just must print cancer red/blue cards
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WIZAAAAAARDS!!

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIIIIIS MARK!?
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>>98014244
1 in 32 chance? unlikely but plausible
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this question was really enough to start a full blown favela meltdown? >>98013157
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>>98013157
He really blew it by revealing his name on accident so now he's extra careful.
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>>98014244
Proof that playing Bo1 literally makes you insane
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Im telling you this is a real contender deck
ex

opponent plague winds my board for 3 mana
I go into turn 4 with nothing on board and a plotted trailblazer
>cast trailblazer to ramp into michelangelo's technique
>pop off and win on the spot

Storm is back
It works
It can cobble together a win through removal
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everyone is forcing multicolour soup now, getting cut off from removal in every direction.
have to win against the odds with dogshit creatures and a weird reanimation angle.
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>>98013886
>>all that to get to the point its can get more combo pieces than a 2 mana instant speed auroral regrowth that's standard legal or more board presence than an eternal witness
Nah this is way better than witness. I can just cast it on turn 2 or 3 and not have to worry about having something in my graveyard, it's a good size body to stop early game aggression, vigilance is great, and if it sticks around you have to kill it before you kill my Dellian Fel or Sheoldred that I play the next turn. Witness just sits in your hand in the early game, this needs to be answered, it doesn't even matter if you get a second Regrowth cast, or even a first one.
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>>98014727
Witness is better in low curve decks where you can flicker it with stuff like Phelia or tutor it up with GSZ
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>>98014981
Yea they both have their place.
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>>98014727
This card will be forgotten about by next week
eternal witness will be eternal

Paying 3 mana for a 3/4 body isn't remotely competitive in any format right now and is a total joke, you will literally die before you untap in standard if you try that.
We already have a 6/6 for 3 mana and it won't stop any of the aggro decks swinging into you nor will it kill their planeswalker hidden behind a million tokens

2 mana for regrowth and 3 mana for regrowth + 2/1 body are both playable competent cards, and we already have one of those in standard and its not seeing any play. Now we've got a dumb 3/4 for 3 in a format where a 3 drop in green will be a 64/64 trample on turn 4 and kill the opponent in 1 hit through any number of blockers
Maybe you can use the {1G} regrowth on this piece of shit to cycle it for a real card lmao
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>>98015036
It's being played in standard and Pioneer right now
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7768454#paper
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7765912#arena
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He killed 3 creatures of mine
I went into turn 5 with nothing on board, no plotted cards

All I did to start this turn was tap out and cast technique on an empty board
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>>98013886
>after surviving combat
you don't fucking know how the card works and all your seething is proof you're butthurt about being a retard
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You like Emeritus of Abundance because it potentially generates infinite value and degenerate combos
I like Emeritus of Abundance because I want to have sex with her
We are not the same
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>daily challenge is "Kill 15 opposing creatures"
>decide to play some Brawl with a shitty deck
>win 15 games in a row
>6/15 creatures killed
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I find it funny how everyone decided that Witherbloom is the worst archetype in draft, so people ignore it so much that I get constructed level synergy and had something like 5 trophies already out of 10 drafts. The downside is that I draft on arena solely to get better at LGS drafts and I basically get no experience with other archetypes, or I force it and lose because everyone else tries to build BW/RW too.
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>>98015036
damn, you're stupid

it's one card with two spells in it, with a potential to create more free spells out of thin air. it's good, it'll be played for years
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>>98015991
READING THE CARD EXPLAINS THE CARD RETARD

You CANNOT get a second cast of regrowth without it surviving combat. You can only use it once. That makes it a 5 mana eternal witness with a 3/4 body, which is awful.
For it to actually become a value engine you NEED to get at least 2+ casts of regrowth

>Whenever this creature attacks, if you control eight or more lands, this creature becomes prepared
>Regrowth: SORCERY

To get more than one cast, you need it to survive combat. It has to attack as a 3/4, survive, then cast post-combat. And only if you have 8+ lands. And only after costing 7 total mana.
Nobody would play a 5 mana eternal witness, its a fucking shit card and will be forgotten as soon as the meta settles down
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>bo3
>ranked opponent
>g1, attrocious land draw, get angry, rope the fucker whole game, while browsing interwebs for 30 min
>g2, somehow pull out a surprise win
>g3, attrocious draw for my opponent

i swear, this game rewards assholes
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>>98016684
>It's worse than a card that's not legal in Standard and Pioneer...

we have a genius here...
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if you tap out to cast resonating lute on turn 4 in a control deck you should be slapped
whats wrong with you
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>>98016754
>>98013886
Its worse than a card that's legal in standard and pioneeer
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>>98016769
What, auroral procession? It is not worse than off colour card? You need to play blue in a graveyard deck to cast it. It's practically useless. Fat chink is 3/4 with Vigilance for 3 mana. That alone isn't bad. Regrowth is a bonus. People need to deal with fat chink, or it'll draw a card next turn. With other threats on board that's not that bad. It can also fit into green/black, green/white, green/red...
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>>98016816
> Fat chink is 3/4 with Vigilance for 3 mana. That alone isn't bad.
Yes it is, its fucking horrible
>People need to deal with fat chink, or it'll draw a card next turn.
Or they just swing for lethal through it. They let you waste your mana on a single ground blocker that is absolutely non-threatening and will drain you with mana inefficiency on further turns. You tap out turn 3 and spend half your mana turn 4 and you've just got a 3/4 that cantripped

You realize that this shitty fat elf has less board growth and grinding threat than Alquist Proft? Another forgotten meme card. Yes you can pay 3 mana for a 3/3 vigilance body and on a future turn you can pay {2} to cantrip him. Except if you had 8 lands on board, proft would be threatening to draw 5 cards and gain 5 life and repeat it the next turn. Not just replace himself.
We're in a turn 3-4 kill standard where these cards are all fucking shit because you need to deal with a 64 power trample swinging into you or a guy popping off with 40 mana of spells on turn 3 or a deterministic combo kill on turn 4 or whatever else.
the top end upside of this fat elf staying alive on board is less efficient at refueling your hand than a fucking mazemind tome, hell mono blue has a 2 mana artifact that gets {T}: Draw a card. This guy sticking to a board is less snowbally than a 2 mana Inti
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>>98016857
>legendary
>off colour
>3/3
cmon...
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>>98016866
We already have mono green 3 drops that can produce card advantage without spending 5+ mana doing it

>outcaster trailblazer
>hauntwoods shrieker
>freestrider lookout
>afterburner expert
>sentinel of lost lore
>surrak elusive hunter
>traveling chocobo
>outcaster greenblade
>reclamation sage
>summon: fenrir

In a fast standard where you vomit out creatures and swing for lethal, guess what, mana efficiency is the single most important characteristic. Eternal witness might not be legal but we've got an even more mana efficient card when you're curving out in aggro
gee that's;
>5 mana for a 3/4 + regrowth
or
>2 mana for a 2/1 + nature's spiral

Hell we have an unconditional 4 mana for a 4/3 + nature's spiral legal right now and nobody is playing that shit, and Elvish Regrower is a huge upside over Gravedigger lmao
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>>98016947
oh and that's not even mentioning how blown the fuck out sorcery speed "prepared" reverse-adventures get by control decks running authority of the consuls or any other etb triggers, or if the green deck is running its own triggers

>You wait all the way to 6 mana to cast your fat elf bitch because you want to both get past No More Lies and be able to cast Regrowth before I can remove it
>fat elf bitch resolves
>enters tapped and I gain 1 life from authority
>while authority trigger is on the stack, I simply kill it with Sear
>dead elf, no chance to cast

Should call that the Niko Aris effect lmao
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what do i cut?
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>>98016947
tell me how are you dropping this, while also having 3 creatures on the board? and it only activates while having 3 creatures on the board? i'll take fat elf over it everytime.
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>>98017332
>#516
>Attacks into Spinner of Souls
>Quits

must pay lotsa moneys to get ranked so high, while playing like a total idiot
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>>98017406
wrong pic
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You may not like it but this is what peak win condition looks like
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>>98017332
Every earthbent land counts as a creature. It only needs 2 other creatures on board unless they have instant removal in response.

Your board could be completely empty except a badgermole cub + 1/1 earthbent land and this would be activated, returning your icetill explorer to hand and letting you keep popping off
You can activate a ba sing se for +1 creature and pop this right away
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>>98005751
You play alchemy
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Hi girls, i have been going positive with the real intended magic format, so i wanted to share my unmatched success with my BO1 sellsword deck
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>>98017632
>bo1 historic
consider the following
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>>98017647
suboptimal in my deck
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>>98017507
like people are allowing you to play 3 earthbended creatures...

Fat elf has a clear curve, I don't see that with your shit cards.

t1. land — lanowar elves (removed)
t2. land — cub (removed)
t3. fat elf — opponent must remove a fat elf, or it brings back cub next turn
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>>98017481
Its hilarious how bad ugin decks are against literally any colorless creature.
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>slurps your earthbent lands
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>>98018436
>tap to activate

lol, lmao even
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>>97997075
What's a good guide for someone new who wants to brew decks? I usually play penny dreadful, but sometimes can't find matches, etc., so i wanted to try arena out, but I'm guessing i'll have to spend a bunch of money/time in the game in order to brew more than 1 deck per rotation. Is there a guide to building a good collection that's updated? I can pay may be 10 bucks a month, but i'm not willing to put much more money in digital untradable cardboard.
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>>98018765
Draft and constructed events both fire almost instantly, and if you're good enough you can go infinite on currency. Cracking packs is the best way to get both cards and wildcards, and drafting is the best way to get packs. Unfortunately like you said there's really no way to build a war chest beyond spending money and time.
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>>98018765
I will teach you everything you need to know if you show us your butthole right now.
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>lack of punctuation and capitalization.
>man boobs
>pedo pic
>esl
Yeah we figured it out pretty easily broski.
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>>98019352
>how could you tell
I read your reddit posts :)
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>>98017632
based
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>do my third SOS quick draft
>3 games in a row against draw-go izzet control
FUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOU I FUCKING HATE IZZET SO FUCKING MUCH
still went 2-1 against them, orzhov is too easy to force in QD
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god I fucking hate you Arena mongoloids
feels like 90% of my time playing this game is waiting for you to figure out how to play your cards
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IM GONNA KEEP SHILLING THIS DECK
look at this board state

This is through 3 removal spells and trying to fizzle me at instant speed
Opp took out a llanowar elves and weaver and I plotted trailblazer
He tapped 2/4 mana to kill the weaver and I went trailblazer -> temur battlecrier
Opp uses shoot the sheriff on trailblazer before it can draw a card or reduce mana

that's okay
3 mana on board, use 2 of it to cast electroduplicate, cast michangelo's technique for {G}
get supportive parents + trailblazer, which provides the {RR} to flashback electroduplicate
and continue popping off

This deck is the real deal, it can win turn 3 with elf start through multiple permutations, its a pretty reliable turn 4 win even without elves. It finds its pieces, its fizzle rate is low
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>>98017847
turn 1 unable to scream on your elf
turn 2 sleep magic on your earthbent land
okay have fun with your 1-2 mana on turn 3 nice ""CURVE"" lmao
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stay drafting.
stay winning.
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>>98020839
>he fell for the creature-based meme in the spell set
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>>98020859
funnily I forced spells-only decks for the last like 10-15 drafts in a row.
trophied this first game going back to aggro because everyone caught on to spells this week.
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Gonna be honest, losing to armageddon in draft is real annoying.
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>actually forced to play Jump In or Beginner Deck Duel
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>1-3
>"aiee I'm tilted surely I can do better if I just go for the opposite colours"
>0-3
Never gets old
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>mfw urzafag was so btfo that he's trying to kill the general by samefagging with different trips
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new custom card just dropped
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>>98023351
No one knows what you're talking about
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Holy esl mega melty cope
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Queued to cash in my points for gems, but cruised to a token after losing my first game.

Now I'm have to get up before 8 on a sunday...
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>>98023342
kek I remember when xhe posted this
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>>98020677
>win next 2 games
>immediately get fucked by the rigging algorithm at 4 wins like usual
>game 6 completely flood out
>game 7 get 2 of my 3 5 drops in opening hand and opponent gets perfect 1234 curve and ends the game on turn 4
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i love when urza whimsyposts
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wish i had crafted dimir excruciator instead of midrange
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just stopping by to gawk at how something with no shame left can somehow find ways to be even more shameless.
how can you people stomach this dogshit?
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>>98026317
idk i just do
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I just do the 4 wins/day unless there's a special event going on
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I play this shitfest drunk or while im at work and its ok
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Look at my wildcards.
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Can someone please spoon-feed me how to get good at drafting. I'm so fucking tired of going 0-3
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>>98027733
Start by categorizing cards by BREAD (Bombs, Removal, Evasion, Aggro, and Duds).
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>>98027778
That sorta worked 15 years ago but these days most draft environments are heavily based on synergy. You can have a GB deck full of reasonable cards but they want to be in GU, RG, UB, and RB so none of them actually do anything.
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>>98027924
I think you just have to learn what the draft archetypes are for a set before playing so you can try to build them or at least recognize what each color is trying to do and build around them.
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>>98027733
Ignore the other guy, BREAD is outdated. You want to read up on quadrant theory and be able to identify cards that are always good vs cards that require synergy.
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>>98027733
Ignore the other guys, you want to learn about hypergeometric distribution and utilize probabilities to your advantage. Learning proper deck construction will win you games better than any heuristic.
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just open bombs lol
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>>98027733
stop doing premier draft if you have no idea what you're doing. you waste ungodly amounts of resources going 0-3 in premier and you get way fewer opportunities to practice
run quick drafts with 17lands open and look at the cards in your pack. look at what they all do, and decide which ones you think are good and why they're good. then compare your ideas with 17lands data. its not perfect, but you should start seeing patterns of which cards are good and which ones are not. you are now learning what tends to make a card good in limited

a head start: cards are good when they impact the board. making stats and removing stats are the best things you can do in a vacuum. you also want cards that can generate card advantage within the framework of adding to the board. so divination is unplayable dogshit because it doesn't make or remove stats, but something like ravenous chupacabra is goated because it makes stats while also going 2-for-1
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>>98028107
The main issue with trying to learn in quick draft is that the bots aren't trying to build decks, and one of the true secrets of improving at draft is both figuring out what lanes are open and also learning to rely on cards which are good or even great in your deck but other players won't want. It does little good to learn card evaluation in a vacuum without being in the environment where that evaluation is tested. I'd recommend watching draft videos at that point just to build card familiarity and heuristics over quick draft.
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>>98028146
you sound like a shark

if this person is usually going 0-3, premier is just setting 10k gold on fire for nothing and feeding people like you free gems. its extremely demoralizing to completely wash out of a premier run and you don't want to learn to get better in those conditions.

quick draft won't teach you how to draft for real, but it will teach you some foundational skills while also giving confidence/morale boosts since its not hard for even complete noobs to go 3-3 in quick draft. once a person is consistently doing well (5+ wins) they can start weaving in premier runs to practice real drafting
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>>98028333
Sorry if I was unclear, I completely agree with you that premier draft doesn't make sense for them right now, I just personally don't think that quick draft is helpful. Not sure how much of that is spite for how many sets were exclusively bot drafting before Arena unfucked itself a little, but I do think the fact that lanes are a lot muddier means the skills don't translate much beyond card familiarity. It's possible sealed might be a good choice and that's typically where I recommend people start, but it's also a bit of a mess these days because the high synergy environment means it's a lot harder to just cobble together whatever commons and uncommons are in the same color as your two best rares and hope for a functional deck.
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>>98028353
>I just personally don't think that quick draft is helpful
ah ok. that's fair but you gotta start somewhere. QD is like how we teach kids in grade school stuff that isn't technically wrong, but does get replaced by fuller concepts in high school/university.
>sealed might be a good choice and that's typically where I recommend people start
only issue with sealed is its gem only entry, and how tf are you gonna get gems without drafting? if you could buy in with gold, I'd 100% agree but asking someone to swipe just to start learning limited is a bit too much
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>>98028421
Fucking hell, has it always been gem only? That's a racket then. Like, I'm no saint, I've probably put $250 or so into gems at this point over the past three years but that's also pretty directly money that I didn't put into paper magic as a result, and I still have a war chest of 25k gems so $100 of that I haven't even used. For a new player? Fuck that man. I get MTG all but invented the TCG model that was used as the prototype for lootboxes et al but c'mon.
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Say something nice about me :^)
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groomed 0-3 trans draft losers (common, misprinted)
vs
chad alchemy infinite value competitor (mythic rare, foil)
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>alchemy
lol
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>>98030082
>value
It's a free to play game?
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I tried to make a goofy witherbloom/silverquill deck and realized its just a shitty 3 color nature's rhythm deck :(
truly these garbage elder dragons are only playable in cummander
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>>98027733
why would you want to spend years trying to learn the art of drafting,
when you could just play a format like Alchemy and stay bad forever?
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trophied with this dog shit deck
guess im just good at magic
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>>98030881
Sad thing about /mtgag/ is that I don't know if you're baiting or not.
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always win
never lose.
the way of the draft god.
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So how do you stop the Aquatic Subtlety, Sin Spira's Punishment, Omniscience turn 3 I WIN combo unless you also happen to be playing blue and have counters?
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>>98031085
Side in your graveyard hate
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I get off on opponents mousing over my cards
go ahead, highlight it real hard
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draft confirmed for peak midwit format
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>refusing to play the creature portion of marang
what is with these braindead retards?
i mean usually it's in some tranny-coded deck so I don't expect these shiteating morons to think about having a big flying swinger, but they are addicted to drawing and discarding as much as they are addicted to committing suicide
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>>98031085
Stifle. Or dont play alchemy formats they are bad
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>>98032969
pic rel
alchemy 1 week 1 month 1 year

>>98033691
ywnbaw
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>misplay on my part left opponent at 1 life
>on his turn he cheats out One with the Multiverse, hard casts Mana Flare and plays Zacama for free with the former
>still can't kill or heal enough to avoid losing on my next turn
lmao
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Ok have you your way macaquito bro kek
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Eek eek to you too xister
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trannies stick together lmao
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my hand is

>electroduplicate, 2x sorceress scheme, outcaster trailblazer, temur battlecrier, traumatic critique, 1 land
>2 lands on board

Opponent casts deep cavern bat
takes the traumatic critique, because of course I could just untap and kill it with x=1 right
except I've got a deterministic t4 win combo in hand without it and he could have time walked me to make it a t5 combo and won the game by just turning his dorks sideways

>t3 plot trailblazer
>t4 trailblaze -> battlecrier -> loop {duplicate + 2x schemes} -> 24 hasty damage to face
didn't matter I drew 15 extra cards in the process
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Trophied with this, unsurprisingly. p1p1'd qull-blade laureate, whole deck was looking very middling until I started ripping banger after banger in pack 3. I guess that's making your lane.
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I thought I told you fucks to mention when it's a gem/gold daily deal
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nypa
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is standard boring right now? is there room for off meta and jank stuff
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>>98038635
Sure if it can win by turn 3 or is control
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>>98038635
I get Mythic every month with my jank deck, but I've become really good at recognising and dodging cursed matchups
The good part about people playing the same 5/6 decks is that they're basically bots who will play out their cards in the most predictable way possible, so it's very very easy to play around them
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huehuehue
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>play standard event
>win a pack that says its a strixhaven pack, but looks different from regular packs
>open it
>it has 13 cards inside
wtf, is this intended?
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>>98040635
you got to open a draft pack, don't question it
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I want to fuck dina so bad
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>>98033168
Why are you so tranny obsessed?
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sorry mythic mike senpaiii
its a turn 3 format
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>>98041135
I cast MAGIC MISSILE
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>>98042902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_ekugPKqFw
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How do I resist gorilla smashing my desk, I even run 16 lands to avoid this exact situation
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lmao game right here:

>somehow survived hydra attack by opponent not drawing land
>dealt exact damage next turn via sparks/jite(can't block—+1/1)/double strike shenanigans
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would televizing the execution of every nigger, kike, faggot, and tramny on the planet by medically extended torture fix mtg?
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>rigged draw
>why yes I will rope a paypig, and play on my other account
>mwhahahahhahaha
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Devilish
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>>98016766
A lack of control
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>>98044518
draftanons told me that you need to play creatures to win... why do you only have 1 creature in hand...............
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>>98043911
Sometimes you get memed and sometimes you are the memer.
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>>98044648
you can't lose if you remove all of their creatures
won a duel this draft with Vastlands Scavenger milling myself out then Sundering Archaic reordering all of my draws to be Foolish Fates
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>opponent strip mined me on the draw, I entomb atraxa, they play tormods and bauble reveal my reanimate
>started spamming nice and good game, played 2 more tormods on turn 2
>Never cracked a single crypt, let me cast 3 treasure cruises before dying to value creatures
how do people like this get to mythic rank
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>strict and sexy teacher
Just when I got out, they pull me right back in.
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Ah well there go all my gemmys and gold, I'm almost completely penniless now
There's an argument to be made that one probably should not play on their free day if they're tilted as fuck after the first two games, but it's also true that 99% of gamblers stop before they go 7-0
It's especially funny because I felt like most of my decks were ok-ish at least, I consistently had decent synergies and ok cards in most of them (at least in EOE) but I simply got flooded way too much, it was almost comical at times
I technically have enough gemmies for one last quick draft, but
>tried playing greedy 4 colour soup slop
>oppo plays Potioner's Trove on t3
>drops a 5 colour Arcane Omens on t4
I think that's a clear sign I should move on to Brawl or some shit
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>>98048533
Ouch, condolences
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>>98048533
another sissy groomed and trooned

keep listening to the resident abomination and spend all your money on draft gemmies, fool
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YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT
BUT THIS WHAT PEAK BOARD STATE LOOKS LIKE
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wasted all my rares on a shitty brawl deck award
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>>98050242
It's fine, I'm at 4500 gold
With tomorrow's daily I'll have enough for another Quick Draft..... and then I'll make it all back
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>>98044200
You're not even white lmao
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Hey kid can I interest you in some big time jank?
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why didnt wotc ever make an actual “standards greatest hits” format thats modern borders but your entire deck list has to have actually been simultaneously standard legal
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lmao this fucking opponent

I am on
>dragonstorm, capstone, quintorius, applied geometric, carnosaur, motherlode
>36 land deck

He has turn 2 high noon and turn 3+ disruption every turn
I won by doing nothing but making fish with fountainport and attacking in each turn, holding up carnosaurs to remove his aangs/aven. Eventually he got desperate and cast one as a blocker and I killed it and got quint down at the same time

>You will never resolve another spell this game.dec
vs
>lmao make a fish on your end step
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>>98056652
>why didnt wotc ever make...
>a version of pioneer that somehow fewer people would play
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Think you'd call that a side quest completed. It was mostly generic spells control, diary of dreams is goated, but I did get to cast two spells off codie in my games, and he ate a bit of removal that could've gone better places.
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bros nobody told me RDW was actually fun to play what the fuck
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get stormed on nigger
you WILL sit there hoping I fizzle as I click a thousand buttons for five minutes
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>>98053160
i'm kms if I lose w this
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>>98058095
Standard storm is 100% deterministic now if you have the correct cards still in library

tap cursed recording
cast beseech, bargain recording
beseech casts recording, hold priority, tap recording
beseech casts beseech, bargain recording
beseech casts fix whats broken x=4, hold priority, tap both recordings
beseech casts beseech, bargain recording
beseech casts vile entomber, putting thousand year storm in graveyard
beseech casts reenact the crime, casting thousand year storm copy
beseech casts beseech, bargaining recording
6x copies of beseech on the stack but you only need one
beseech casts lightning strike
7x copies of lightning strike now on stack
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>>98058140
welp
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Chances of making it to Mythic with this jank?
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>>98059138
People have made it to mythic with starter decks that are played by a bot which just drops the leftmost playable card in hand every turn. With the way Arena works it's more a matter of time that you can spend. Gets easiest late in the month.
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>>98059163
It's too easy late in month. I'm looking at getting there sooner, so I can play even greater jank in mythic for a while.
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>>98059138
Return the Favor is such as shit card, though. I'm trying to make it work, and it just doesn't do a thing most of the time. It's always one mana too expensive. Or it can be cast in response to opponent, and won't do a thing.
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Puzzle time.

Can we win this this turn?
Opponent isn't stupid, he blocks both Claws.
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>>98059308
Assuming I'm reading the board correctly and the Hired Claws haven't triggered yet:


You've already fucked up -
Before attacks burst lightning the pawpatch recruit. Emberheart becomes a 3/3. It doesn't matter where their +1/+1 counter goes.
Swing with all creatures. Opponent goes to 5 from Hired Claw triggers.
Opponent blocks both claws and the challenger. Pump the hired claw that isn't blocked by soulstone sanctuary. Opponent goes to 3 from Razorkin Needlehead.
Use Burn Together to sacrifice one of your 3-power creatures.
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>>98059308
>>98059371
yes, claws didn't trigger
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>>98059371
you're right. attack with everyone, burst pawpatch. emberheart dies, razorkin dies, one hired is blocked, the other pumps to 3 and takes opponent to 2, then Burn Together. -1
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>>98059308
seems pretty straightforward?
hired claws will trigger, opp at 5
razorkin will trigger on their draw, opp at 4
just point kicked burst lightning at them and they're dead

or you could do some meme shit with challenger and burn together I guess
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WHY DOES ARENA TAKE TREASURES BEFORE MANA IN MY FUCKING MANA POOL
NO WONDER HASBRO PAYS YOU RETARDS NOTHING YOU CANT EVEN CODE BASIC SHIT
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>>98059745
The autotapper is weird sometimes, it's why I have it set to suggest a payment but doesn't just autopay
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>>98059308
Claws were already activated.


Results

Claws blocked. +7
Burst Lightning to his life. +5
Burn Together on Embereart took Emberheart to 4/4. +1
It activated Emberheart and it drew me another Burst Lightning that took him to -1.

I forgot to mention that opponent had no cards in hand. So +1 would be enough, since Razorkin would take him to 0 on card draw. I just calculated for that and went with it. 2nd Burst Lightning was a gift.
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>>98059413
i am stupid, claws did trigger
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>>98059138
Got it. I didn't notice that season ends in 14 days, so nothing special about it.

I did get in at 97%, so I guess that deck isn't that bad. I previously played 3 Maelstom Artisans instead of Fear of Being Hunted, and it's not nearly as effective. Fear can take out a lot of things by forcing things to block it. Fun deck, stealing 6/6 demons for win is great entertainment.

Some winscreens:
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Excuse the blog, I haven't played in a while and I don't lurk, so most of what I say isn't new to anyone paying attention. I played Green/Black Rock in Pioneer for three days. Went from Bronze to Mythic. Started with a bog-standard Rock netdeck and then altered it into the abomination it is here.
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/16-05-26-black-rock/?cb=1778972816
I typically like black midrange decks cause that resembles older styles of play, so I shelled out rares and mythic rare wildcards I got from a hot streak in draft.
My thoughts:
>Lands
God, I hate wizards making lands worth a rare slot, cause it is so neccessary to shill out. I started with 4 mutavauls and no overgrown tombs, but I had to make a change cause the beginning of the game is too fucking tight. I know Blooming Marsh is good, but I need mana untapped for turn four and five. If I were to make the best deck possible I'd have this exact same deck, but with less basic lands.
>Badger Mole Cub
So, is Badger Mole Cub good? No. I was very disappointed. True there were some games where the earthbending was relevant, but I felt like it just wasn't good enough. I would rather have threats.
>Delian Fel
Surprisingly solid. Acted like a better priced Veraska, which is tight.
>Pollukrinous
It has been a while since it came out, but I still love this nigga.
>Matchups
I still get eaten alive by 5 color Nig to Light.
Sometimes G/W hatebearers get me.
Overall, every other matchup felt fair or in my favor. Especially against other black decks, I feel the adjustments I made have always made a difference. Glissa is still good.
>Did I have fun?
No. Magic is still way too fast and even playing Rock, I had a hard time slowing the game down. That and the shuffler is fucked. Half of my losses were that the top twenty cards on my library were either 2 lands or 13 lands.

Anyways, see you all in another 3 months
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grok summarize that post
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Is the battle pass the best thing i can get with gems?
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>>98061124
Yes, it's always the first thing you get
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>>98030082
>>98061263
same person
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My wife doesn't play pioneer, xhe only plays alchemy formats and sometimes limited
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After much harassment, my brother got me to log in to arena after a year or two of absence. I got gifted 14 billion packs for some reason, and with the various wildcards I have put together a generic mono green landfall tifa lockhart deck. I love my waifu swinging for 32 t4.
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>>98060597

Badger is fantastic. Remember that two Badgers mean 3 mana from a single mana creature. Things get out of hand fast with this. It needs a bit specific builds, but fits in many decks. The thing is that people are just ready for it now. They no longer spend burn spells on Llanowar Elves, but save them for Badger. They carry board removal, and know how to deal with Badger decks.

And yes. Shuffler is rigged. If you play enough games it evens up in your favour, but then it feels like you're being gifted games.
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>>98060597
>is Badger Mole Cub good? No.
opinion immediately discarded. 2 mana "remove this immediately or lose, and even if you do I still have a free 1/1" is the floor. if you play a t1 mana dork, you can take a 4 mana turn 2 even if they have instant speed removal for cub, and if you ever get more than 1 cub in play you're like tripling your mana
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>>98060597
>So, is Badger Mole Cub good? No.
It would be a really good creature without the earthbending part; a Leyline of Abundance that doesn't brick as much
But such a strong mana accelerator in a deck that already runs only must-remove threats?
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>>98062929
I use it on escape tunnel for extra landfalls, love that lil cub
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>cruelclaw's heist, stealing kavaero from opponent's hand after he milled his pieces
every fucking time lmao

I have won so many games in this exact manner
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This is my best of one deck. It is for all intents and purposes perfect. My only question is should I run the card "Case of the Stashed Skeleton"?
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>matched against wotc employee in draft
>mana screwed
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Is there ANY other card that can actually work here
>no scrollshift
>no etali
>no eiganjo
I miss pre-rotation but yeah

also yes I'm missing 1x lindblum, need 1 more wildcard. Don't think there's any reason to run stomping ground
but am I overlooking something, is there any viable clone/flicker effect I'm not thinking of
I tried mistrise village and more blue. Sucks, doesn't work, control can counter your 2nd spell anyway, takes 7 mana to ram through a token making planeswalker.
could run cori mountain or ba sing se, sing se making blockers or threatening control but people are building around blowing out earthbending too often
maybe branch of vitu ghazi would be worth it
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Broken rares, free trophy. Multiple group projects are what really carries it though.
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>>98065633
4th game in a row of missing land drops

fuck this rigged shuffler fuck it to death fuck it how the fuck is this even possible even by its own demented bullshit
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>>98065851
Just looking at that I see that you're slow as fuck. First spells that you can cast comes at t3, and it's 3 damage for 3 mana??? That's really weak now. You need something to slow opponents turns. That's main thing.
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>>98066001
Its a one card combo. You either survive to turn 4 with a ramp or turn 5 with blockers, or you lose
And sometimes you buy time in the most ridiculous ways possible
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>>98062876
>>98062929
>>98063309
I've seen a green devotion deck pop off with it, and I have seen g/w uraboriod decks REALLY pop off with badger mole, but the gameplay experience I got playing with it in Rock was not good. Answered or unanswered, I didn't like it.
Badger mole offers a lot to ramp decks, because if you turn one elf into turn two badger mole, it offers 7 mana. The payoffs for rock are 4-5 mana. The typical Rock list doesn't have a great use of the ramp either since most lists don't have elf (i do), because going from turn two to turn 4 doesn't offer a lot, since the first three turns should be dedicated to disruption and fighting off the tempo of the opponent. You don't go BIGGER, you just wrestle control of the board and stabilize creating a sizable advantage in board presence and answers in your hand. Badgermole does WIN games by itself, it enables other cards to win games better, but that doesn't help in rock. Rock doesn't speed to an early win, it needs answers and stabilizing. The way I built the deck, I have a couple elves for the offchance to go from turn one to turn three, which is substantial cause I can get Glissa or Annex off and then go back to disrupting and answering the opponent, but that's not main goal of the deck, so there isn't much of a focus there.

Badger Mole is NOT a four of main deck for Rock. It's not a staple that green decks should slot in. Maybe if it is a genuine built around strat, maybe, but I just find it underwhelming. The only fun I had with it is, putting it on mutavault and then punking someone into blocking only to then activate mutivault. That and the time I drew four of them and nothing else and managed to squeak past the finish line against an orzov deck that was just about to mount a comeback
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>>98066694
you're just objectively wrong. every single golgari deck that's putting up results in pioneer is running playsets of cub and elf
you coming back after years with gigadumpster mmr and climbing to mythic means nothing
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>>98066750
whoops scratch elf, I'm drunk and mixing up pioneer and standard. but cub is still 4x in literally every list
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>>98062929
Cub isn't a must-remove in Pio unless you're on control. Both aggro and fang outrace it.

>>98066750
Cub isn't good without elves
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#4 mythic playing lumra (the best deck o algo)
Oops!
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>>98066859
>Cub isn't good without elves
well then you should tell that to the people putting up results, since you clearly know better than them
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>>98066694
Yea I've been pretty underwhelmed with badgermole in these decks in both standard and pioneer. They are almost always just a removal magnet and there really isn't anything huge worth ramping into if you get out multiples.
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>>98067049
>well then you should tell that to the people putting up results
They're on elves though
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98067067
lol
lmao
find 1 (one) (uno) pioneer list running any elves at all
no (You) for you faggot
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https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/pioneer-golgari-midrange#paper
Featured list on goldfish. Why so mad?
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98067085
>1 deck
>from over a week ago
>that got 10th in some no-name event
>in which the other 4 golgari decks ran 0 (zero) (nada) (zilch) elves
keep grasping at those straws
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>>98061263
Regular one or with 10 levels?
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>"find one list"
>I do
>"ackshually it doesn't count or something"

>>98067144
Reg
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>>98067049
That's because Rock is good even without badger mole. This is like saying Taking Turns was a good deck because of Serum Visions. Like, yes it is in the deck, but it was broken because of Mystic Sanctuary.
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>>97997075
>activate only once
Once per instance or once per game?
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>>98067295
It works like Exhaust.
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>https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-may-18-2026
if i craft 4 copies of phlage i will get all of my wildcards back when the ban takes place is that correct?
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>>98068873
No, because it's not banned in a format that's on arena.
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>>98068873
Better craft your sewer-veilence cameras now though.
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>>98068891
>modern isnt on arena
damn you are right almost burnt my wildcards for nothing
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>>98068873
Redpill me on how this stuff works? We get free wildcards for banned cards? If so, as a complete newbie, which ones should I craft? Pioneer and Alchemy?
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>force a graveyard nigger to play his faggot bombs honestly
>remove them
ha ha
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>>98069027
If you try to craft the banned cards on ban day the pinkertons show up and confiscate your account and kill you by hitting you in the head and throwing you off a building just like they did to Trevor Moore look it up.
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>>98069147
>all this for a couple of cards
wtf why did nobody tell me
you know how much I've paid whores to do exactly that
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Bastards are banning commons again, and not main combo pieces. Despicable.
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>>98069597
They went over the reasoning. Vivi already got nerfed and they want the playstyle of that deck to exist, The Sewer-veillance Cam was just too reliable of an untap engine.
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>>98069652
It's bastard move. They did the same shit with Omniscience,Heartfire Hero and Up the Beanstalk. Mythics stay unless they're really too strong, they quickly ban support pieces.
Whenever they print least one useful common/uncommon, it's quickly banned so resellers and scalpers can jew their ware.
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>>98069597
Its hilarious vivi is still so busted after a huge nerf they ban a common. Fucking clown game for retards.
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>>98069886
>Vivi got a huge nerf
Not even. Sidegrade at worst.
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>>98070147
Why would they remove the sorcery-speed restriction and turn limit if they knew Vivi was a problem? I realize Alchemy is a meme format but untapping shit isn't hard.
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Izzet not doing so good without cutter lol
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>>98067052
>They are almost always just a removal magnet

And that's not bad by itself. Mono, or primarily green decks, have a lot of threats. If removal is sepnt on Badger, then maybe Hydra and Icetill with get through. Or Earthbender will make Seth Chocobo into 20/21. There's Ouroborid and Harmonizer, Travelling Chocobo, Tiffa, Ba Sing se, Baloth, Nature's Rythm.....
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>>98070555
Yea I still run it in my decks, there really isn't anything better for the slot and the ramp isn't entirely pointless, you can unlock both doors on Annex on turn four with a good draw. And really the deck wants to be casting fatal push, thoughtseize or duress on turn 1. Getting your 3 drops down on turn two is a solid play with elves, but the extra body with badgermole and earthbending mutavault is usually very useful.
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>>98070147
>>98070248
Oh shit i guess i didnt know how it changed because vivi is for faggots and alchemy is for dysgenic retards my bad. They really cant even balance cards or do anything anymore fucking morons.
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>>98070555
ps. I'm not playing Badger in a BG decks at all. He really only fits in primarily green decks. Black earthbended land won't give BB, but BG, and that can mean a lot to the speed of the deck. Proffessor needs lifelink support, so Badger is unneeded extra. Discard decks are fast, and don't need that much mana as well.
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Landfall more like Landfag amirite fellas
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>against reanimator standard
>turn 4
>instantly lose
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>standard
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This is a warning
The kikes at wizards of the coast cannot be allowed to land nigger me to this extent
So blatantly FLOODING me with every single fucking land in my deck to the point where I am COUNTING MORE LANDS THAN I ORIGINALLY PUT INTO IT
YOU HEAR ME YOU FUCKING TRANNY APES??!!!! DO YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND THE ZEITGEIST OF OUR CULTURE TODAY?!!! DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU ALLOW THIS KIND OF NIGGER FAGGOT SHITSKIN KIKE TRANNY STREET SHITTING SPIC GOOK CUNT JIGGABOO SLANT PAJEET FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS!!!???>???!!!!!!!
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i got 16 play-in points today since vivi got btfo harder than draftrannies do when i post how much i rack up in gemmies every month using the play-in points i get from constructed events to play the qualifiers

still no interest in playing or posting
doing so to pass time until the weekend when i will go out with a girl 2 decades younger than me
also virgin
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>>98071846
Yep. Either go first and kill them on your turn 4, or counter kaevaro or play graveyard hate.
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>>98072699
strategic betrayal should've been an instant
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>>98072066
kek. I had two games recently with a fresh jank deck, where I drew practically every single land in my deck. I outright emptied all my lands with Icetill, and somehow I still drew lands three times on my draw phase. It was somwhere in the range of 100-1 chance to draw a land. Rigger still gave me lands.

Another case. I stole/copied my opponents Emeritus - Ancestral Recall with Return the Favour. Drew six cards. Drew four land.
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Problem?
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>plot le bird
>never actually plan to play it
>Izzetroon plays with mana open for 10 turns in a row
>can feel the counterspells rotting in his feeble shaking hands
>gets chipped down by le monke
>finally plays a card
>dies to kicked lightning
Consider playing creatures
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>>98072068
Cool story broski tell us how it goes
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Is golgari control dead?
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>>98074519
that's a big deck
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>>98067498
why didn't they just use the Exhaust keyword then? same thing with the mild mannered librarian?
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>>98072068
>i will go out with a girl 2 decades younger than me
poster is a 26 year old btw
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>>98074902
Maro taught us not to be ashamed of our decks, 'specially since they're such good size and all
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>>98074918
Even in cases where it's germane they tend not to use keywords for one-off mechanics, especially ones like Exhaust that have explicit rules synergy (i.e. Afterburner Expert or Pit Automaton).
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https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/mtg-arena/marvel-super-heroes
No more Omenpaths
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>>98075575
That's a shame. It was a clumsy solution to a self-inflicted problem, and I know they ran into semi-serious issues where Arena players went looking for paper Omenpaths cards rather than Spider-Man, but I still preferred the veneer even if it felt forced at times. I know Universes Within was always a shallow promise they never intended to fulfill but it still bites.
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R.I.P Fleem
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>>98072068
draw a gf meme of her
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>>98075877
They're going to stick around as styles in Arena but yeah don't expect any more Fleem cards in the future
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>>98074785
i want to gf her so bad it's unreal

she's just as mentally ill as i am and she's also into me but her parents may be a problem

still first things first i'm gonna dick her and we see were we go from there
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>>98076393
Get her into magic and tell her to post here, we could use a new threadgirl
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>>98069597
You'd be screwing people out of their money/wildcards by banning combo pieces.
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arenaniggers btfo
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>>98076470
she's more a playing with dolls kinda girl than playing with cards (despite being way past that age, and the dolls are those japanese figures you sick fuck)

i invited her to play magic but she'd rather play with her figures. it's over (for you)
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>>98070248
apparently they liked people winning on turn 3 by taking a 20 minute turn dropping vivi, playing wild ride, and then tapping him and untapping him 3 billion times while drawing out their entire deck
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Fuck this card man. Just absolutely takes over games. I scoop when I see it and im behind.
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Have they said when vintage cube is coming back?
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You guys got any cheap decks for climbing in standard ranked? I play an mono-white lifegain deck but also wanted to try something else, the problem is that that deck already dried out my mythics and rares.
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>>98077984
black discard can be cheap. Shredder's Revenge is common. as are many discard cards.
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Day 2429 without Lava Dart on MTGA.
We Will Keep The Count Going.
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Hey Arena bros I just heard about Spider-Man finally properly coming to this shitty ass client, and the first thing I heard a female say about it was that she would literally start playing just for that. So the likelihood that your penis will be touched by a woman some day has gone up by about 0.001%. Congratulations. Just thought you all should know.
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the izzet alchemy deck is actually fun as fuck
i had an insane lute easel copy the 5 cost create 6 mana turn, multiple cantrips into the storm conjure free ecl cards and i had the storm crow prepared guy in play would have stormed off atleast 15 crows but my opponent conceeded
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>KIKEL NIGGERS of the CUNTS gives a KONA NIGGER literally a perfect hand 2 rounds in a row down to the last card
why do these shit eating faggot trannies WANT to get luigi'd so bad?
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>>98081845
Just kill kona.
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>>98081932
OOPS THE SLANTEYE SHITSKIN HAS COUNTERS AND HEXPROOF
HA HA NOW FLOOD ME WITH 20 LANDS IN 10 DRAWS IN A 15 LAND DECK YOU KIKEL FAGGOT NIGGER SPIC GOOK CUNT DYKE SHITSKIN DOG EATING ROTCROTCH MOTHERFUCKING BITCH FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS
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>>98082015
They tap out for kona on turn 4 you nigger retard



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