No, that is not every D&D.
Go back to whatever isekai general you came from.

>>98003777
>slave markets everywhere
>beastfolk are always discriminated slaves
>slave collars are the strongest magic ever
lol not anymore, slavery neve existed. It got retconned

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>>98003777
>1 plat coin = 10 gold coin = 100 silver coin = 1k copper coin
Yeah

>everything is stuck in Medieval Europe
No, there's usually fantasy arabs and vikings somewhere

>elves are brats
>the demons are the good guys
>literally God is the final boss
weeb

>slave markets everywhere
>beastfolk are always discriminated slaves
>slave collars are the strongest magic ever
>the church is extremely evil and corrupt
Isekai weeb

>the pope mind controls paladins into going on crusades and killing demons
Literally never seen this

>>98003777
I don’t know what kind of D&D you’ve heard people play but uh, this is incorrect.

>>98003798
Wasn't that Paizo? did D&D do that too?

>>98003777
So which 'dnd' would that be? Cause it ain't any of the big settings like FR or Greyhawk.

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>>98003777
Literally every DND:
>everything is stuck in Medieval Europe
Depends on the setting. Usually but that’s the default. There are monks and shit doing kung fu by default too though
>elves are brats
Yes, elves are scum
>slave markets everywhere
The only time I’ve seen that is dark sun. Most settings have no slave trade because it is problematic.
>beastfolk are always discriminated slaves
What the fuck are you on about? I can’t think of any settings where that is the case. What even is a beastfolk? Shifters maybe, tabaxi, loxodons? None of them are slaves.
>slave collars are the strongest magic ever
I have literally never had a magical slave collar in a game after 20 years of playing.
>1 plat coin = 10 gold coin = 100 silver coin = 1k copper coin
Yes that is how the currency system works…
>the demons are the good guys
I have seen many demons be reasonable and agree to help the PCs but calling them good is a stretch. More of a “the devil you know” situation.
>the church is extremely evil and corrupt
Maybe in Dark Sun but I haven’t seen it otherwise
>the pope mind controls paladins into going on crusades and killing demons
That is extremely specific…
>literally God is the final boss
What? How many times have you seen that happen? There are multiple Gods, usually, so your statement doesn’t even make sense. Which one?

Sounds like a group problem or you’re a nogames shit posting.

>>98003777
>everything is stuck in Medieval Europe
a fictional universe that borrows the aesthetics of medieval europe but isnt actually

>elves are brats
only if the players want them to be
but the PHB emphasizes that elves are graceful

>slave markets everywhere
only if your setting says so
slavers are generally outlawed in published settings

>1 plat coin = 10 gold coin = 100 silver coin = 1k copper coin
because its simple and easy to keep track of
what benefit would there be to having a 33:1 GSR?

>the demons are the good guys
tieflings are any alignment
actual demons and fiends like the pitfiend are evil

>literally God is the final boss
outside a few super high level books from the early days with statted out deities, you never meet, much less fight, any deities

>>98003890
>Yes that is how the currency system works…
its how the roman currency system worked, in which 1 denarii (silver) was worth 10 asses (bronze/copper)
but 1 aureus was worth 25 denarii, which is more than double the 10:1 ratio set by the PHB

but if you ask your grandpa about the LSD system britian used before the 70s, you quickly see why fictional worlds use fixed 100:10:1 exchange rates
it gets fiddly quickly, and making change requires a lot of mental math, and its an annoyance with no real benefit other than "realism", in as much as a unreal world can be real

>>98003899
>but if you ask your grandpa about the LSD system britian used before the 70s
My grandpas are dead. They never lived in Britain so wouldn’t have any idea about it anyways.

If you want to change the currency system out of some bizarre autistic need go for it. But standardised currency makes the game easier to run and play. I once made a simple change of making silver pieces the standard instead of gold pieces and it caused enormous headaches. The currency system is fine and frankly trying to change it is more effort than it’s worth 90% of the time.

>>98003777
I'd give a real answer, but you're clearly too retarded to be literate.

>>98003777
How did this impact your last session? Be detailed and specific.

>>98003842
They all did that.
Just like how the elemental planes of positive and negative energy got together and unilaterally agreed that racism has no place on the alignment spectrum.

>>98003777
D&D 5e is EXTREMELY shit, but at least come up with real reasons to hate on it, not made up anime shit. Faggot.

>>98003777
>everything is stuck in Medieval Europe
That's not even true to begin with
>elves are brats
I can work with that
>slave markets everywhere
Why not?
>beastfolk are always discriminated slaves
I'd rather have them be more proactive, maybe a bit of both like elves in DA:O
>slave collars are the strongest magic ever
Interesting
>1 plat coin = 10 gold coin = 100 silver coin = 1k copper coin
Don't fix what isn't broken and all that
>the demons are the good guys
Not really digging that, but we can see
>the church is extremely evil and corrupt
This is getting too cliche for me, at this point seeing a not evil church is almost a breath of fresh air. But to be fair there's quite a few around.
>the pope mind controls paladins into going on crusades and killing demons
This is something I never saw and it's honestly pretty metal
>literally God is the final boss
Why do you think they were statted?

>>98003986
>at this point seeing a not evil church is almost a breath of fresh air.
is that fresh air we actually need?
any church that gets sufficiently large and powerful like the catholic church did is inevitably going to become corrupt because of the money and power they wield

unless the church remains very small and informal with little real political power, making it closer to a generalized faith rather than an organized church, then the evil church is more just an inevitability

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>>98003890
>There are monks and shit doing kung fu
That's what they push to play in a california kitchen sink, but you can easily rework that. People training in martial arts wasn't exclusive to china.
>t. I played a warrior of mercy monk based on a greek martial artist medicine man that uses a greek theatre mask

>>98004004
There's nothing wrong with having subfactions or individuals that are corrupt, having monolithic factions is feasible but can be quite boring. But when the only exposure you get to said faction is consistently corrupt, it gets stale fast. Especially in fantasy works where deities exist, are more proactive and can actually influence how their churches are run. A corrupt church of a benevolent god is not going to last long because the god itself will make sure of it.

Okay fuck it someone explain the joke to me. Op is clearly referencing something specific but i cant pick it out. Is it an anime or elden ring or something?

>>98003899
I think you're wrong about the money. My reccolection is one libre to 12 solidus to 24 denarius (or something like that). Its actually good because 1 year of pay (L) is 12 months of pay (S) is 24 days of pay (D). Plus If something costs 1s you know exactly how much time it probably took to make, great for item crafting rules

>>98003777
>everything is stuck in Medieval Europe
No, the players are caught in a not!Crusade in an ancient desert where they are hired by one side to discover a clear path through a magical desert valley to outflank the other side and break the stalemate.
>elves are brats
Yes, they are also rapacious hedonists bent on wiping out both sides hiring the players and re-establishing their lost desert empire.
>slave markets everywhere
Yes, they're playing in the not!Middle East and for at least two factions slavery is legal
>beastfolk are always discriminated slaves
Depends on where they live and their individual strength. Main "villain" has a greathorn minotaur as their bodyguard/arena champion
>slave collars are the strongest magic ever
Yes; elves have magical forge where they imbue slave collars with magic runes to make slaves obedient and block the wearers magic/psionics
>1 plat coin = 10 gold coin = 100 silver coin = 1k copper coin
Yes as money is one of the only things I'm not autistic about so I'll use it
>the demons are the good guys
No, they are universally hated except by magic practitioners, and even they know better than to avoid drawing their attention for too long.
>the church is extremely evil and corrupt
They're damn near the only force for good in the setting
>the pope mind controls paladins into going on crusades and killing demons
The pope has been in self-imposed exile for almost two thousand years and the paladins hope for the fulfillment of a prophecy saying one day he will return while trying to save and help others
>literally God is the final boss
Literally the devil is the final boss, and God provides for the players indirectly in hopes they will choose good.

My setting, anyway.

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>>98004009
Sounds pretty cool. I imagine a lot of the monks like the ones from Majesty. It’s a religious thing to do with lawful alignment instead.

>>98003777
who are you quoting?

>>98004004
No. If the writer doesn't make it corrupt, then it isn't.

>>98004156
if we move outside the realm of realism, then your reason to have a pure good church is solely to have a pure good church

>>98004081
I have no knowledge of them, what are they like?

>>98003777
Source?

Or are you just constructing strawmen to rage against?

>>98004301
>Monks are the warrior priests of Dauros, the Law Keeper. They use no weapons or armor, relying on their martial discipline. While their vow of silence lends an air of mystery, soothing melodic chants can sometimes be heard drifting from their temple walls.
> The Temples to Dauros are elaborate sanctuaries where the Monks can dedicate themselves to their inwardly focused pursuits.
> https://majesty.fandom.com/wiki/Monk
I might not use a vow of silence but the general idea is there.

>>98004370
Well seeing as someone is chanting, being silent when in public could very well just be a choice

>>98003777
Nice trips, nogames. Have you ever cracked open a single RPG book of any kind or do you just spend all your time being upset at cliches you made up?

>>98004485
Fuck off

>>98004023
He’s whining about isekai anime slop. But not even any particular one. Just the generic image people have of it thanks to chucklefucks farming views by endlessly pointing out the existence of the lowest common denominators that get shat out. Like imagine citing Extreme Paintball as the reason all modern fps games suck, or saying modern fiction is dead because My Immortal exists. That’s how pointless this thread is.

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Potemkin thread.

>>98003890
Why are they all black? Where’s the diversity?

>>98005040
Is this the best your demoralization efforts can produce? An old image?

>>98005007
Can you actually prove it wrong? FPS games are in fact generic homogenized trash, and a recently announced isekai with a sci-fi setting is a huge deal because they're always medieval european RPGs

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>>98003777
>everything is stuck in Medieval Europe
We are in the age of sail, IN SPACE!(spelljammer)
>elves are brats
Elves are snobby racists.
>slave markets everywhere
Only in the regions outside of the influence of the big empires.
>beastfolk are always discriminated slaves
Beastfolk are their own factions, you can also find them as mercenaries, slaves or fully integrated in the more cosmopolitan port cities.
>slave collars are the strongest magic ever
No
>1 plat coin = 10 gold coin = 100 silver coin = 1k copper coin
1 pp = 5 ep = 10 gp = 100 sp = 1000 cp
>the demons are the good guys
No, but there are fringe individuals.
>the church is extremely evil and corrupt
No, but there are fringe individuals.
>the pope mind controls paladins into going on crusades and killing demons
Each religion has their own "pope", goals, ideals and dogma.
>literally God is the final boss
The final boss is a self proclaimed "Eladrin Emperor", but I must admit there are sidequests to go and punch gods and demigods in the face.

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OP never played a tabletop game in his retarded and underage life the thread.

>>98003777
>everything is stuck in Medieval Europe
Eberron exists, but yeah this is just an issue with fantasy as a genre in general.
>elves are brats
No...? Elves are arrogant sure but they're more arrogant in the racial supremacy way than a brat in need of correction. That's /a/ shit.
>slave markets everywhere
No? Especially in modern D&D, where everything has been sanitized.
>beastfolk are always discriminated slaves
There aren't really beastfolk in modern D&D. Like there's a few races that are adjacent like hadozee I guess but there's nothing that would fit your typical anime slop.
>slave collars are the strongest magic ever
Those aren't even in D&D.
>1 plat coin = 10 gold coin = 100 silver coin = 1k copper coin
Yeah, it makes it easy to do math on the fly and minimize how many coins you're carrying. It's called a game mechanic you moron.
>the demons are the good guys
Absolutely not. Demons - which are distinct from devils by the way - are bad guys. While yes, Tieflings exist, they are mortal and thus have free will. They are not ontologically good or evil, at least not as of the latest edition.
>the church is extremely evil and corrupt
Which one? There's dozens of gods in different settings in D&D, and yeah sure I guess the evil-aligned ones would be but there are objectively good gods too and they are portrayed as heroes, like the order of the gauntlet.
>the pope mind controls paladins into going on crusades and killing demons
That is absolutely not what happens in D&D. Maybe Dark Sun? But that doesn't really have paladins or gods so no? also demons and devils are objectively evil.
>literally God is the final boss
I mean sort of in Tyranny of Dragons? Tiamat is technically a goddess, having come into existence with the rest of the draconic pantheon way back when, so in that specific module yeah, a god is the final boss, but that is one specific module and Tiamat is very, very evil and wants to bring the world to ruin with dragons.

>>98005007
To be fair the bulk of isekai is either what OP described or "I got isekaid with bullshit powers but I want to live a comfy life" or some other shit. Otome game isekais were good for a while but then a couple of them blew up and now they're all homogeneous too.

>>98003798
Why are you niggers so obsessed with slavery?

>>98003777
sounds like retard anime shit

>>98004522
I'll take that as a No and a Yes. You should try playing TTRPGs. It's a good way to polish your social skills and games are fun. I suggest Fabula Ultima.

>>98006660
>why are niggers obsessed with slavery
You really are better off not knowing.
Just understand that it's going to be the reason you owe them free stuff.

>>98008769
What manner of conspiracy are you babbling on about?
And why do I get the feeling its /pol/ bait?

>>98005597
The fact most of them are based more on renaissance yuropean fantasy instead of medieval fantasy is a pretty big condemnation of OP’s fake whining.

>>98006639
Not really, desu. Most isekai stuff is like “wizard of oz” level of ordinary people being sent to other worlds for adventure like Monster Rancher or Inuyasha. The kind of shit people bellyache nowadays is just adaptations of schlocky web novels. They’re about as similar as the sparkling vampires in Twilight are to most story traditions of vampires, aka very different in tone and intent.

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>>98003802
>No, there's usually fantasy arabs and vikings somewhere
And pirates

>>98008936
Sir this is 2026, not 2008. Also:
>No true scottsman

Also Monster Rancher and Inuyasha are shit lol.

>>98003777
elf slave

>>98009599
And thank goodness not a single person asked for your retarded opinions regarding anime in the year 2026

>>98006660
Where else are you going to buy your beastfolk/elven waifu/daugterfu?

>>98006660
slavery existed from all humanity's history and prehistory and even exists today.

that's like asking why are there wars and armies in D&D. Is a common thing with tribes/civilizations.

>>98010684
"thing existed before" is not a sufficient reason by itself to include it

>>98010701
>before
exists now too, a lot in fact, millions of people are still being sold nowadays and I mean actual slavery not "my boss works me out like crazy"

>>98010722
the fact that pseudo-slavery exists today is probably a good reason not to include it unless everyone in the game is on board

>>98010701
It's common human concept that generates a reaction
Happened during feudal times in literally all civilizations in every part of the world
Creates a conflict between factions
Can drive a plot during a campaign
Is a deterrent to have PCs or PCs' families killed if they get defeated

It is as normal as to have ransoms, gladiatorial matches, racism, class differences etc in your games

>>98010733
its normal to exclude it if you dont want in your game, but you are acting like people are wrong for just not wanting something

>>98010725
death is also common today, should we remove it from our games?

>>98010736
The what? >>98006660 you literally called anyone having slavery in a game "obsessed niggers", it is you who has a visceral problem with it, not us.

>>98010739
if your players dont want it, then sure remove it
replace it with simply being knocked out
most people dont really have a problem with it, so its fine

but slavery, people generally dont want it in the game unless its to free slaves from slavers

>>98010743
not the same guy, but it is weird that theres been multiple threads that have been arguing quite passionately for including slavery in their games and it comes across as magical realm type obsession

>>98010747
The problem isn't "I don't want slavery in my campagin" but slave being retconned from the official lore, no slavery, not a single race has dealt in slavery, not even demons, gnolls, drow, mindflayers etc races previously very much into it and known for dealing with it. That's the weird part, and gets weirder when you point out the silliness of it and you get a "why are you so obsessed with slavery?mm?!" as a resply

kek the having demons in your game is a sign of satanism of gen z

>>98010733
>It's common human concept that generates a reaction
So is farting in somebodies face.
>Happened during feudal times in literally all civilizations in every part of the world
Slavery was all but eliminated in Europe by the high middle ages.
>Creates a conflict between factions
>Can drive a plot during a campaign
How? And how can this not be subsidised by trade, land, honor or feudal conflicts?
>Is a deterrent to have PCs or PCs' families killed if they get defeated
What does this even mean? Why would the PCs family be killed?

>>98010722
No, slavery doesnt exist anymore. Taking some jeets or slavs passport to work on a construction side or brothel is not slavery, its forced labor. These are two different things. Slavery is the concept of legally owning a person as property/tool, forced labor is a crime or temporary if enforced by authorities, like in a prison.

>>98010754
>demons
Why would demons or devils have mortal "slaves"? A demon or devil wants your soul, wtf are these supernatural, spiritual beings going to do with your physical labor?
>gnolls
Stupid, destructive creatures that just murder and eat you.
>drow
I can see the point but you can absolutely argue that having people from the surface in the underdark for any extended period of time is completely unviable.
>mindflayers
Again, a completely alien beings, I dont see what they would do with slaves. They dont even have a concept of private property.

>>98010770
>So is farting in somebodies face.
I don't have a problem with your character farting in someones face, but there will be in game consequences like with slavery

>Slavery was all but eliminated in Europe by the high middle ages.
Europe is not the entirety of the world. Same as whatever area/kingdom in a game won't be the only thing that exists in that plane

>How? And how can this not be subsidised by trade, land, honor or feudal conflicts?
Yes, those can too move the plot forward. Two things can exist at the same time and one doesn't remove the other

>What does this even mean? Why would the PCs family be killed?
Monsters attack the PC's town, I guess in your games if your players fail the monsters just leave without doing anything to anybody and say till the next time?

>No, slavery doesnt exist anymore
Arab slave market still literally exists nowadays, same in Africa. Slaves exist nowadays in the very same sense that they existed 1000 years ago

>>98010788
stop being a tard

>>98010770
>Slavery was all but eliminated in Europe by the high middle ages
European nations ceased slavery in the 19th century, so there were slaves in Europe pass the high middle ages. The barbary slave trade with the support of the Ottoman empire stopped in the 19th century, and they raided European cities and vessels and took Europeans as slaves by millions

>>98010763
It was the same for gen x. Only based millenials go to heaven.

>>98010763
What does this even fucking mean?

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>>98003777
>my honest reaction to OPs stream of bullshit