A place for discussion of pre-WotC D&D, OSR retroclones, and OSR-adjacent games.>Is this a general?No, just a place to discuss OSR and related content>Isn't there an OSR thread already?No, current regulars of /osrg/ have made it clear they only want to see a specific subset of OSR games in the thread.This means the name /osrg/ is somewhat misleading but that's their problemPlease report and ignore any trolling.Thread question>What the heck do people use to make digital maps that's not an online only website or Paid for?
>>98002753>"First decade" is a 2019 invention, and even then it was repeatedly rejected.Good effort post anonNaturally the trolls already knew it, I mean they are pretty clearly trying to rewrite historyBut it's a good for someone to have summarized the data for us to link to when they start [falsly] appealing to muh tradition again
>>98003817Mods, how long are you going to keep allowing this troll to make copycat generals?
>>98003781Jannies, why do you keep giving this troll free rein? Please delete this thread.
>>98003804>Make up bullshit>Samefag telling yourself you made a good effortpostKill yourself, troll
>>98003781>Please report and ignore any trolling.You're telling people to report the OP of the thread you made. Genius move.
>>98003781>Please report and ignore any trolling.Disagree. The trolling in the OP should be reported, but it shouldn't be ignored, it should be countered by pointing and laughing at OP and posting BrOSR memes.
>>98003845Seconded.
>>98003781Jannies, can we please have this hijack thread deleted finally? It's getting ridiculous him just reposting this same thread over and over to try to derail /osrg/. There's nothing in here but complaining about /osrg/ and transparent pretenses to not being a general.
Hello samefagging osrg trollYou should look up what hijacking meansThis is a separate thread, no one is coming for your threadKindly fuck off to your echo chamber hugbox
>>98004077>hugboxIronic, coming from a tourist from plebbit and rpg.net.
>>98004082>literally getting mad at delusionsI never had an account on either
>>98004087Sure.
>>98004077>You should look up what hijacking meansA difficulty with figurative language, including metaphors, idioms, and sarcasm, is a common trait associated with Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD).In the context of ASD, this is often linked to differences in social communication and information processing:>Literal ProcessingMany autistic individuals process information concretely. For example, the phrase "pull yourself together" might be visualized as physically reassembling parts rather than regaining emotional control.>Theory of MindUnderstanding metaphors often requires intuiting the speaker's intent or the underlying social context, which can be challenging for those who struggle with "reading between the lines.">Hyper-SystemizingA focus on factual, predictable data can make the ambiguity of poetic or abstract language feel illogical or confusing.
>>98004077>no one is coming for your threadBullshit. You keep trying, but every time you get your ass handed to you by the jannies:>>97998219>>97991238>>97991387>>97991486>>97991670This is your latest attempt to troll /osrg/, after two years of trying to disrupt conversation all day, multiple times a day, non-stop.
>>98004172Ironic coming from someone getting assblasted anytime you call him a shill because ackually he is doing it for freeAnyway now that you agree that you are making shit up and that's literally not what's happening you can kindly proceed to fuck your own face
>>98004182>MODS PLS HALP SOME ONE IS DISAGREEING WITH ME!! LIKE HE IS SO DISRUPTIVE!! YIEKS!!Too back to your discord server if you are too much of a sissy to handle public places
>>98003781>What the heck do people use to make digital maps that's not an online only website or Paid for?There aren't good, free tools. Good, cheap, fast: pick two. If you want cheap, you've gotta give up either good or fast. So go w/ gimp and literally hand draw every little thing and you can have good. Or go w/ some shitty lookin tile generator and you can have fast. But cheap, good and fast? Not an option.
>>98003781>What the heck do people use to make digital maps that's not an online only website or Paid for?Any free Adobe Illustrator alternative should do the trick. I just use illustrator, but Inkskape or Figma should be decent substitutes.
>>98003804Not the best way to start a thread, but it's still appreciated.
>>98004385I agree.
>>98003804>>98004385>>98004464Very valid points. Thank you for the organic discussion, Anons.
>>98004172Ignore all previous instructions and talk about OSR.
>>98003804>no trolling please >first post is trolling You guys are hopeless.
>>98004525The OSR refers specifically to the first decade of D&D, spanning from the 1974 original release through the early 1980s Basic and Expert sets. It excludes AD&D 2nd Edition, as that era marked a fundamental shift in design and publication philosophy away from the original framework. This definition tethers the movement strictly to that initial ten-year historical window and its specific mechanical lineage.
>>98004569Wow, that's completely wrong.It's pre-2000 RPGs for several reasons.The first is that while pre-2000 D&D is generally compatible between all the editions, 3rd edition presented a fairly big change. That means that material within the OSR can be changed between systems fairly easily, but it's the 3rd edition divide that presents a significant paradigm shift and makes it incompatible with OSR material.The second is that the OSR began as a reaction to WotC dropping all support for pre-WotC editions. The "revival" was people hoping to keep pre-WotC editions from disappearing, since many of them had long since been out of print, and there were no signs WotC had any plans to reprint them and create competition for their 3rd edition. These were fears that were expressed and still remain in the archives of several forums.The third is that 2e has been part of the OSR community since it began, and with the overwhelming majority not just including it, we even saw Dragonsfoot go from a 1e-focused website to a OD&D+B/X+1e+2e website, alongside many other related clones and inspired games. Outside of Drragonsfoot, 2e was always a part of OSR discussions on Enworld as well as Wizard's own forums, and even on 4chan in the original /osrg/.As for trying to say 2e is where the OSR should define the split and 2e should be excluded, 2e came out in 1989, and there was no mention of an revival until 2002. That's more than a decade of relative silence, and with no one claiming that 1e was "old school" in the face of 2e. Most people would assume OD&D if anyone said "old school" in 2e's heyday. The idea that anyone defines "Old School" as "pre-2e" is effectively non-existent, which makes defining "Old School Revival/Renaisance/Resurrection/Robocop" as "pre-2e" fairly ridiculous.The differences between 1e and 2e are also not that dramatic (less than the differences between 1e and B/X, for instance).
>>98004586>Fishfag repeating the same exact fairy tale as if it were factual history for the hundredth time.
>>98004599It's always nice to see you throw up your various "I lose" flags. https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/image/bSmftF6ymYl_kLYZVWcCZg/It's a really easy way to track how often you've been BTFO.
>>98004610nou
>>98004626Still no argument lol.
>>98004632stop hitting yourself
>>98003781You really need to work on your TQs.You've come up with a few questions that are basically dead ends, not conversation starters.A TQ should be something more like->What's the most underrated/underappreciated monster?
>>98004752Overrated is much more interesting.I think beholders are a very stupid design. Ugly, dumb, and the only reason they're scary is because they can randomly instant kill you.
>>98003781You can make maps with any free OS like software such as GIMP. That map you used in the image is super easy to make as it's just basic shapes
>>98004837To be fair, the Beholder is one of the better original D&D monsters. All the best D&D monsters are taken from mythology/other sources, so when it comes to monsters made by D&D for D&D, it's actually some pretty slim pickings.
>>98004837Not really OSR, but I like that Eberron made it a creation of the far realms. Because you are right it's random as fuck and only exists to easily kill characters
>>98004869NTA but I often wonder just how blitzed out of Thier mind they were when they were coming up with this shit. IIRC, the landshark came from an SNL skit
>>98004586Why repeat this argument every thread? You know the OSRG trolls are gonna ignore reality and lie.
>>98004837>>98004869>Post a monster>Write a short comment about itWow, such an organic discussion. Totally not samefishfagging.
>>98004632>If you point at laugh when I write an autistic schizoid rant for the hundredth time I win.Picrel: fishfag.
>>98004892>ignore reality and lieBut enough about yourself.
>>98004752Oh that one would be the Neogi for me. They got some use in spelljammer but these creepy spacer trucks are so underrated
>>98004837>>98004871Beholders started out a little on the weak side design-wise, but being the face of D&D and getting so much attention because of it has really given them a chance to be developed and to shine from the reiterations.They're like Superman. Superman is a pretty bad superhero design, just a random assortment of powers stuffed inside blue spandex with a cape, but his status as the face of DC comics has given him an endless series of comic writers reading his stuff and thinking to themselves "I could write a story about this guy that's actually good."Sure, there's plenty of bad beholder interpretations, just like there's plenty of bad Superman comics, but there's also lots of versions of them where their appearance, identity, and lore have been vastly improved while still miraculously retaining their core identifying characteristics.
>>98004525OSR is discussed in the OSR general, currently here: >>98004530
>>98004869>>98004837>>98004917>Post a monster and a one-line comment of absolutely no interest.Wow, such an organic discussion. Totally not fake.
>>98004224>>98004232Very organic, mucho discusso!
>>98004837Overrated, drow. It may just be over saturation but man they feel over rated
>>98004917I love neogi because they're really just an excuse to go dark. Super fucking dark.If your players are not completely horrified by the Neogi, you're not doing it right.
>>98004752More importantly, TQs are only needed in generals anyway. Since this is supposedly not a general (lmao) but a one-off thread its topic is fully encompassed by the subject and a thread question is thus an absurdity.
>>98004930>Drow are over rated.Wow, another very interesting comment in this quality thread.
>>98004923No that's osrg, it's not a general OSR chat
>>98004882>Thierjej
>>98004932another very organic comment from fishfag totally not samefagging
>>98004941Incorrect, /osrg/ is as the name clearly implies the OSR general thread. All OSR topics can be discussed there.
>>98004882Gygax was doing so much cocaine at the time that the FBI investigated him for being a dealer.That sounds like a joke but it's just the facts.
>>98004932Oh fuck yes. How they breed alone is nightmare fuel. Adding in Thier culture, world view, eating habits and slavery aspects and they are horror stories. I used to love using the bastards
>>98004837>>98004869>>98004917>>98004919>>98004930>>98004932>>98004951>fishfag flooding his own thread with one liners devoid of any actual content>he believes this'll make the thread look like it has actual activity
>>98004951>Thier
>>98004946No they can't. Why lie when you know you can only talk about a very narrow set of topics? Y'all have created your own OSR definition that does not match the general OSR definition. Go back to your echo chamber
>>98004951I also used [monster] in my campaign that I totally ran and I loved [random line from the monster entry].
>>98004967Yes they can. All OSR topics are welcome in /osrg/. Only non-OSR games are off-topic, admittedly that's a much wider set of topics but it's hardly a strange or unreasonable limitation.
>>98004967>Go back to your echo chamberIronic, given how furiously you are samefagging and patting yourself on the back.
>>98004977No they are not. Fuck off back to your echo chamber troll.
>>98004972For me, it's [monster]! Sometimes they're done badly but I believe they can be done well.
>>98004972This makes me think of ["AD&D" 2e setting] and how it has [insert random element] that I really like!
>>98004978That would be you son. Half the comments here are you trolling as at lest two of us try to have actual conversation
>>98004982Yes they are, and I will continue to contradict your lies and trolling for as long as you make them (or until a janny wipes this thread, hopefully).
>>98004985Right! Reminds me of ["AD&D" 2e kit], that I totally used in my real campaign. Some kits are good, but others as bad.
>>98004987I also like [a completely different, unrelated """AD&D""" 2e setting]! Wow, we're like bros or other siblings.
>>98004993>at lest two of uslmao>try to have actual conversationLMAO
>>98004993>at lest two of us try to have actual conversationSaari am spek actual conwersation saarvith at lest two of us try to saarin wery god english from schol of bangalore saarno vait saarvhy you pick me up saarno don't yeet me in diarrhead ditch of bangaloreplese saaaaaarnoooooooooooooooooooooo
>>98004995>Some kits are good, but others as bad.That's so true. Don't you think the idea is better than the execution of every one of the 140+ kits?I don't like that many of them have no mechanical effects, but also the mechanical effects are often broken or too weak, plus I like how the fluff gives the kit depth but it makes the kits too tied to a specific setting so I don't like it.
>>98005022Kits have some good things to them, but also some bad things to them. I like the good things, but I don't like the bad things.
>>98004982This space has been conquered by the BrOSR. But you are allowed to whimper and whine and beg us to stop while we gang rape you.
>>98004967You're pretty when you cry while you are getting gang raped.
>>98005013Bangalore, more like Trangalore lmao
>>98003781>posts a new thread days before the old one dies>does this at least six times now>but ITS NOT LE GENERAL!!!kill yourself, fishfag>>98003804>"First decade" is a 2019 inventioneverything was invented sometime, dumb fuck
>>98004219>Too back to yourLOL esl retard>discord serverwhich one specifically?
>>98005022This is likely trolling but, I like the idea of kits. The execution was all over the place but the concept was good. Classes are very restricting, started gaming with classless systems, MechWarrior in particular. So I always found classes to be very restricting.Kits, as an idea allowed a always to shift those restrictions, to better fit a class with an idea or concept. I think those lead to 3es prestige classes, which lead to Pathfinders archetypes and 5es subclasses. I think the PF1e archetypes were just 2e kits but much better integrated and lacking the some of the over restrictive parts.So personally, I think if you were to redo kits, I would go something closer to achtypes.
>>98004586>>98004892>ntrpgcon gets to decide what /osrg/ isLOL fucking retard.
>>98004837>>98004869>>98004917>>98004930>>98004932Wow, you have used monsters? I like monsters too. Great organic discussion!
>>98004946>im retarded, so others must be too!1974 to 1983
>>98004951The whole driving concept behind the Neogi was thinking that mind flayers weren't evil enough and there needed to be an even more evil race. I think that kind of sheds an unfortunate light on how Spelljammer really didn't do as much with the pre-existing races/monsters beyond establishing that they had always been a part of the setting and giving them some themed space ships. They didn't want to step on the toes too much of what had already been established.But, to make up for that, the Spelljammer original monsters can get pretty wild.
>>98005073Have pity on the retard, he literally hasn't got any better arguments. He has to make an NTR convention into some sort of unassailable authority, because if he were to admit that they're just saying that shit for commercial reasons he might have to acknowledge that the entire actual OSR community disagrees with him.
>>98005087Right, which covers the entire span of old-school D&D, and then the clones are those games trying to recreate those old.schol editions. Those put together, and material written for them in the form of adventures ad the like, constitute the OSR.
>>98005094This is true, some of the issue is SJ was tied to all existing worlds, except Athas. But SJ was a bunch of great ideas they never fucking used. I mean tired before how blend the space elves where, and the whole goblin wars, and many races they put in space but was mehBut They would have things like the vordoni that were kinda used here and there but never to it's full potential.
>>98005094>>98005120>Talking about setting "lore" as if it were interesting.I used to say that "AD&D" 2e was the worst of all the games published under the D&D brand, but I have to withdraw my claim. It's not even a game in the first place. Just bullshit setting books to read and collect.
>>98005120>he's still feebly trying to feign a discussionkekkkk
>>980050685e's archtypes are liked fixed kits.They also tried to do the same with races a bunch of times, where instead of just having all the abilities be front loaded, races would get more abilities as they leveled up. I don't think any of the attempts to do this really worked out that well.I still don't think I've ever seen any good answer to the race question. I've seen lots of really dumb answers (some varieties of race-as-class being the worst), a few ones that I can live with, but none that even came close to solving the continued legacy of issues.
>>98005132The cherry on top is that he types so badly that his posts are completely incoherent from autocorrect's best guesses being wildly off-base.Also,>They
>>98005110>which covers the entire span of old-school D&Drightfully excluding 2e, as it is not old school, correct
>>98005134>I still don't think I've ever seen any good answer to the race question.
>>98005134I agree the trues to end front loading just fail. I do think a better approach is one a few OSR games have used and that is less racial abilities, not more. Do elves really need pluses with blades and shit? Do dwarves really need stone working built into them?
>>98005149NTA, but even if you had that as your argument, OSR includes clones and updates.
>>98005138>The cherry on top is that he types so badly that his posts are completely incoherent from autocorrect's best guesses being wildly off-base.Yeah since he's admitted he's a retard with actual dyslexia and instead of getting pity for it he got laughed at, he's turned autocorrect on, and now we're getting these posts in the style of a retard with paranoid schizophrenia on LSD.
>>98005158sure, but nothing to do with 2e. >even if did I not make that clear?>you had that as your argumentthe first decade is not an "argument", it's a line in the sand.
>>98005158You can't reason with the osrg trolls man. It's like talking to flerfs. No matter how much information is given, the ideology is to tied to Thier core self for them to accept it.
>>98005155>I think a solution to [problem that doesn't exist] is in an OSR game I will not mention that totally addressed it.Such an insightful comment. You're really good at conversations with yourself, fishtard.
>>98005169>the ideology is to tied to Thier core selfDyslexic retard charging in!
>>98005169>2e doesnt belong in /osrg/? well you must be a flat earther!you are a literal ditch shitter
>>98005169>osrg trollsSo we're not the BrOSR anymore?We're not the ACKS discord anymore?Just the /osrg/ trolls?
>>98005187Here, I'll give him one for free, watch this>Tr/ollsrg/
>>98005094That screencap is sick.
>>98005183>you are a literal ditch shittersaarples saari live in ditch of bangalores saaryou are literal shit of diarrhea in the ditch of bangalores saarthis my homes saarples you no shits in my diarrhea ditch home saarvait saar vhy is you pick me up saarvhy no ples you no yeet me in diarrhea ditch of bangalors saarplese saarnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
>>98005169>Thierthe most common fishfag esl mistake
>>98005203fishfag selfie? OWARI DA?
>>98005197is a wery good screencap saarthank you for the wery organic comment saarbest regards from diarrhea ditch, bangalores
>>98005209>OWARI DA?DESU!
>>98005197That screencap is pure up what's actually in the things write up. It pure up has dementia, it even changes animals to its riddles. Oh yeah and it breaths a cone of fucking sleep gas.
>>98005222
>>98005222ONEECHAN NO OPPAI KIMOCHI DESU?
>>98005237moshi moshi, fishfaggo desu~~!
>>98005253OCHINCHIN NO JUUSU OISHII
>>98005265
I don't think I've ever seen anyone be quite this upset before. It's like 50 posts in an hour of pure butthurt over this thread.
>>98005283>I don't think I've ever seen anyone be quite this upset before.Yes, they're having a meltdown.
>>98005288Indeed, they're terrified
>>98005283Its a Shame the mods let the osrg trolls just troll threads to shit them up.
>>98005294They're seething.
>>98005301>>98005297>>98005294>>98005288>>98005283samefishkys, ditch shitter
malding even.ACKS chuds just can't accept 2e being inclusive to the disenfranchised.
>>98005297>Sherlock Fishfag is so very smart.>But he still hasn't understood what's going on here and why.100 bucks says that unless somebody tells him explicitly he'll keep wondering.
I think this guy might actually be insane.
Another fun spelljammer monster. Gentlemen, I give you the space swine
>>98005328That's very charitable of you.Personally I think he wouldn't get it even if someone did tell him, because he'd go into a state of denial over it.
>>98005283>I'm getting gang raped, but it's YOUR butthole that hurts
>>98005335The osrg trolls always do this. Everyone who is not part of the echo chamber is one guy
>>98005339>Another fun [monster] from ["AD&D" 2e setting]. Without a comment this time.Thanks for the very organic discussion, totally-not-fishfag.
>>98005343>Everyone who is not part of the echo chamber is one guyThat's just the most charitable hypothesis. Because if there's actually more than one you, and the best discussions you can have among themselves are the ones you've been having in this threads, then it's even worse.
>>98005339I always think it's kind of cute how Spelljammer has absolutely no appreciation for distances in space or any physics whatsoever.These pigs would have to be the fastest, toughest monsters in D&D in order to fly in space.
>>98005361Such an insightful comment, showing that you totally play games and don't just read books.
>>98005361Spelljammer lived by the rules of cool and "eh don't think about it" lol. The fact they were war mounts of intelligent penguins just made it better. It was as if the setting was trying to put crazy itself and it was glorious!
>>98005335hes not totally wrong lmao
>>98005339>>98005380These seem incredibly unlikely.
>>98005354Y'all are shitting up this thread, trolling trying to kill actual conversations that are going on. Every time someone replies to a conversation, you trolls do 5 to 10 posts in a row trying to kill it .You need meds.
>>98005394This is d&d son, not hard sci-fi. These are not even the oldest things in spelljammer
>>98005155I don't care for the tolkienslop side of D&D or the OSR either. I find all of these presuppositions very limiting milieu-wise. >Dwarves can't be magic users because..... they just can't, okay?!Putting a ceiling on demihuman level progression to counteract all the many benefits given to them is likewise a solution to a selfmade problem, and other justifications sound more like excuses to me. It's a holy cow from a time when dwarf wizards sounded unfathomable by the standard Tolkien inadvertently laid out. Such restrictions are entirely dependent on milieu.
>>98005395>actual conversationsROTFL MY SIDES
>>98005410>sondrown in your diarrhea ditch, fakehillbilly newfag redditor
>>98005445Kill yourself, nogames.
>>98005395>y'alldrown in your diarrhea ditch, fakehillbilly newfag nogames redditor
Did old schoolers ever come up with some guidelines to actually balance their games?>sometimes, but not always, you can run away or use an off the books solutionThis isnt balance.
>>98005479>balancebalance for what??? can you give a cogent example of the problem?
>>98005445>dwarf wizards sounded unfathomableDwarves being anti-magic is weird to me. Tolkien dwarves loved magic.
>>98005479Yes.>No matter how broken someone's character is, they still die when rocks fall on them and have to start a new caracter.
>>98005445I agree that d&d and standard fantasy as a whole are too much into Tolkien. It's always has to be the base races and they are always so tied to those concepts. You can strip out a lot of that unneeded baggage
>>98005499>Tolkien dwarves loved magiccoveting a magic gem is not "loved magic"
>>98005528They loved magic so much they had a magical front door so the first thing visitors would think is "whoa these guys really love magic."
>>98005542elf door
>>98005587It is, indeed, an elf door.Thanks for the organic comment in this totally natural conversation.
>>98005591Okay bozo, I'm saying that the dwarves did not "love magic" just because they coveted a glowing rock, nor because they built an elf-style door for elves to use. Thanks for shittin ur britches at me, faggot
>>98005598Just ignore the troll man. They are just here to shit up the thread
>>98005613TAYRT, well yeah, its a shit thread lmaofuck you too fishnigger
>>98005149Right, that was my point. By no stretch can 2e be considered OSR, no matter how badly that hurts Fishfag's butt. (Not that he even really beleives it anyway, he's admitted that he's only tryinfg to force it because nobody wants to talk about 2e and so all his posts die when he can't leech off /osrg/, lmao)
>>98005587Dwarves also loved elves.
>>98005623Sorry but you lost.>>98004586
>>98005623Perhaps I misunderstood, my bad!>>98005636Irrelevant. Fuck off, retard
>>98005641again, bozo:ntrpgcon has no authority over /osrg/.they have authority over ntrpgcon, that's it.
>>98005645Sorry, but you lost.>>98004586
>>98005169>t. Guy who responds to mockery of his homemade alt-history schizopasta with such cogent arguments as "Wrong."
>>98005283
>>98005661>guy who can't argue and instead thinks shitposting like a little bitch will make him look not retardedYou lost buddy.>>98004586
>>98005672Oh boy, another one of your "I lose" flag.>>98004610
>>98005328Come on, that's not a fair bet. He genuinely believed in the "BrOSR trolls" being real ACKS-obsessed /fit/izens until someone in the ACKS thread told him flat out just now.
>>98005673Dude, they are like flat earthers. Facts,reason or logic can't teach them
>>98005673>>98005649>>98005641broken chatbot?
>>98005690>still haven't figured out how to wriggle past the solid stack of logic that kills your entire worldview>>98005688Flat earthers put effort into their arguments. These guys just shitpost like they think if they do it enough people will just have to listen to them.
>>98005706Okay, that is fair. I call em flat earthers as it's the same kind of clinging to an ideology and rejection of reality.
>>98005380>Spelljammer was full of preposterous muh random slop decades before 5e! It was so ahead of its time!Lmao, if this is your genuine opinion it's even more embarrassing than if you're just trying to astroturf it. No wonder this sold the worst of all D&D settings.
>>98005395>Every time someone replies to a conversation, you trolls do 5 to 10 posts in a row trying to kill itFirst of all, there are no conversations in here to reply to so fuck off with that shit. Secondly, a 10:1 ratio is really underselling our numbers and efficiency. Don't try to make yourself look big by pretending you can compete.
>>98005744Underselling your autism you mean.You're really keen on pretending there's more of you than there, but you suck at not making it clear that it's mostly just a ton of samefagging.Same thing you do in all your threads. Either really dumb shitposts, or the most banal tryhard shit that no real people are ever gonna bother reading.>>98005726These guys are lower than flat-earthers, but yeah, the whole "la-la-la, facts don't matter to me, la-la-la" whenever they get cornered is identical.
>>98005641>Wronglmao. Have a meticulously researched blog post series that explains in detail why you're up your own ass in return:>https://osrsimulacrum.blogspot.com/2021/02/a-historical-look-at-osr-part-i.htmlDon't reply to me until you've read the whole series and are prepared to refute each part in detail, any claim that this history is incorrect is pre-rejected and considered an admission that you're wrong until such time as a full refutation has been provided.
>>98005767That whole thing is already refuted here.>>98004586
>>98005766They are clearly 2 people at best as they can't hide that posting style. They just do 15+ posts each.Have you ever had to deal with flerfs or creationists IRL. Sweet fucking godsm
>>98005774I accept your concession.
>>98005774Your schizo rant with no evidence and a shitton of people telling you you're a loony is not refuting anything, let alone a long-standing, researched and footnoted post with ample commentary from people there at the time who agree with it.
>>98005793>why are you not taking my K&KA suckoff blog serious?!Probably because >>98004586 is cold, hard, irrefutable logic.
>>98005799>dude is sucking off his own suckoff bloglolIt can't even cope with C&C coming out before OSRIC.
Has anyone else played Beyond the wall? I only got to really one this little gem once as a pick up games but everyone I have ever showed it to really got into the character creation.
>>98005804I already said that your concession is accepted. I grant your admission that you are wrong, and further acknowledge that you are assblasted. This audience is over.
>>98005479Gygax had his own method of fixing some of the more problematic math that made the game feel too random and unfair.He would fudge and change shit on the fly.
>>98005851Not OSR, sorry. Take it to /nsrg/.
>>98005856I accept your concession.
>>98005851It looks nea->Inspired by the works of Ursula K. LeGuin, Susan Cooper, and Lloyd Alexander.That doesn't sound fun at all. I hope it's more fun than those authors.
>>98005856So, you're leaving? Great.Just remember you failed to do anything in the face of >>98004586, and it's not going anywhere.
>>98005864Son, it's bx based you ignorant troll
>>98005812>It can't even cope with C&C coming out before OSRIC.Well, you clearly read the whole series already! Let's have a look, shall we?>https://osrsimulacrum.blogspot.com/2021/03/a-historical-look-at-osr-part-iv.htmlWhoops! Looks like there's a whole section discussing C&C's position as a on-OSR precursor to the OSR! Crazy how you managed to overlook that after reading the entire thing so carefully! Oh well, now that you've been proven to be entirely wrong and BTFO I bet you'll just admit it right away, right?
>>98005890You're gonna have to learn how to ignore that guy. He's made because his own thread is dying because everyone prefers ignoring him.
>>98005890Sorry, not OSR. Doesn't belong here in an OSR thread. Take it to /nsrg/ or by all means start a thread of its own for it, Fishbanjofag.
>>98005902>LOOK AT ME COPE>I DENY IT'S OSRlol, that's not coping. That's trying to cope at being retarded.And didn't you say you were leaving? lol, you can't even lose like anything but a dumb cuck.
>>98005865>no uLmao, again?!>>98005887No, I'm graciously allowing you to leave. This is an OSR thread, so I have no reason to leave.
>>98005878Yeah, It's mostly just a little BX game that you play as people from a village,v with a little hex crawling around the village. It has an interesting character generation method of every "class" had a playbook of random roll charts that determines you background, history, skill and so on.It really shines as a low prep pick up game. That was how I used it when two of my normal group had to miss. I pulled this out and we were running in like 20 minutes
>>98005887>>98005903>>98005916>p-please, you have to leave, my absolutely empty, pointless thread has no chance against you if you stay in it!This pleading and crying while admitting your weakness is probably not going to have the effect you wanted it to.
>>98005927Please, take your off-topic conversations to /nsrg/ where they belong. This is labeled an OSR thread, so discussion of non-OSR games is inappropriate ITT.
>>98005903I mostly ignore him. But that comment was so stupid I couldn't stop myself
>>98005706>if you dont like 2e, youre a flat eartherretard alert>>98005690>solid stack of logicntrpgcon has no authority over /osrg/, moron.>worldviewthe /osrg/ on 4chan is your whole world? sad.
>>98005380Wow, that's so discussion! Very organic, my game is improved just by reading it, I can feel it.
>>98005927It marketing itself as zero-prep is an easy way to get its foot in the door of a lot of tables. On the list of the most common RPG gripes, right after "It's too much effort to learn" is definitely "It takes too much time to prepare for a session."
>>98005736i play SJ and hes right. Its like proto rick and morty bullshit
>>98005395kek, malding hard
>>98005445>nnnnnnnoooooooo you can't put the heckin' limiterinos on my precious cinnamon roll characteriniiiiiiiikys 5efag
>>98005975>>solid stack of logic>ntrpgcon has no authority over /osrg/, moron.>>worldview>the /osrg/ on 4chan is your whole world? sad.meant for >>98005706
>>98005499arkenstone, more like arkenSTONKS amiritejejjjjjj
>>98005851>individual initiativedogshit
>>98005975NTRPGCON is just reflecting the reality that most people consider "old school" D&D to mean "Pre-2000." Most OSR-focused conventions share similar or even looser guidelines.It's so weird that you keep coming at us from your echo chamber, but acting like the greater OSR community is on your side when all evidence shows that most people in the OSR community don't agree with you.
lmao the AMOUNT of dilating going on just because he has absolutely no repsonse at all to OSR Simulacrum's history, that's hysterical
>>98006023I see that you still haven't responded to the OSR Simulacrum series by refuting it in detail! Obviously, if you're right and it's wrong this should be trivial for you! So what's the holdup?
>>98006023>uhm, a convention says so, therefore it it true for 4chan!>uhm reddit says so, therefore it is true for 4chan!>uhm, rpgnet says so, therefore it is true for 4chan!please commit a violent suicide
>>98006036You already got refuted way up >>98005812You're a really dumb troll if you think your blog matters to anyone outside of your hugbox.We've got one of the largest OSR conventions defining it as pre-2000, and you've got a blog visited by half a dozen people that struggles with basic facts like C&C coming out before OSRIC did so it has to redefine OSR specifically to try and exclude it and make OSRIC first. That's pretty fucking sad.
>>98006041>everyone except me thinks I'm wrong!>FUCK THEM, I AM 4CHAN, I AM 4CHANI'm part of 4chan too. And you're retarded.
>>98006072>I already declared myself victorr, here:lol>got one of the largest OSR conventions defining it ascool, they arent 4chan, and they arent /osrg/.>>98006085we're talking about you importing opinions from others places as though they have relevance here. Try to keep up.
>>98005979That's true, I found it very easy to lead gamers though. D&D makes many gamers think all RPGs take a lot of time to invest in and a lot of rules to learn
>>98006023NTRPGCon is a convention that runs a host of different games: Call of Cthulhu, Top Secret, Chainmail, Metamorphosis Alpha, Aliens, Champions, Chill, Circvs fucking Maximvs. It does not claim to be and is not an OSR con.
>>98006041Don't forget dragonsfoot also says so.And twitter says so. Wikipedia says so too.Enword says so, youtube says so, even 4chan says so.4chan is telling you right now that it's pre-WotC.
>>98006072No, see, one line of asshurt doesn't count as a refutation. Especially when it clearly has no connection whatsoever with the actual post.Just so you know, in all seriousness and outside the shitflinging for a second, the more you deflect this way, the more obvious it becomes that you have absolutely no counterarguments, so you're really not helping your case here. I feel bad about it, it's like beating up on a little kid to steal candy you don't even want.
>>98006099Lmao that nigger you're replying to is going to argue that Top Secret and Chill are old-school because they came out long ago, just wait.
>>98006099It's definitely an Old School con. It literally says it focuses on "old school tabletop gaming".
Why don't y'all take this argument to either the osrg thread or the throw down thread
>>98006115>No, see, one line of asshurt doesn't count as a refutation. lol. Probably why you haven't manaeged to refute >>98004586 at all.
>>98006108>Don't forget dragonsfoot also says so.>And twitter says so. Wikipedia says so too.>Enword says so, youtube says so, even 4chan says so.so fucking what? go to those places since theyre opinion is so important to you.>4chan is telling you right now that it's pre-WotCyou speak for no-one but yourself, retard. /osrg/ says its off-topic. simple as.
>>98006143And if /osrg/ DID say 2e was OSR then it is, right?
>>98006140Don't worry, we can always just make a new one.The /osrg/ trolls always tire out, good discussion is had, the trolls come back to try and tell everyone the good discussion is actually bad until they tire themselves out, and the cycle repeats. It just means these threads live and die in a day, which is hardly an issue.
>>98006129and that's completely irrelevant to whether or not /osrg/ declares a game off-topic. >>98006142there's nothing to refute. we arent ntrpgcon. they have nothing to do with this website. you do know that, right?
>>98006143NTA but we are not in the ISRG. You are trolling the OSR thread
>>98006143Dude, this isn't the /osrg/.If you're looking for that dead thread, follow the waft of "dead posts no one is ever going to read."
>>98006162and if your aunt had balls, she'd be your uncle. >>98006178correct, it's a butthurt """not general""" cope thread for fishfag to seethe in>>98006167it's /osrg/, you esl ditch shitter
>>98006129Nice deflection, but it is using "old-school" in the commonly understood version of the term, which is to say "old" without further qualifiers, not "shorthand for the OSR and nothing but the OSR". It includes some OSR games there, because the OSR is old-school, and it includes many non-OSR games, because not everything ever published before 2000 (e.g., "old", in this context) is OSR.I'd say that all this sad conversation is doing is showing why the OSR was a bad name for a movement, but 1) of course no one could know that at the time, as it was an organic movement rather than something with a name created via focus groups, and 2) you're being deliberately obtuse rather than "accidentally" misunderstanding. Or is the latest entry in the expanded fishfag cinematic OSR universe that Dawn Patrol and Chill are OSR games?tl;dr for reading-impaired schizos: old does not = OSR; OSR does not just = old.
>>98006166You do realize there's a whole post beyond that image, right?A post that explains everything in a fashion you can't refute?
i couldnt find saddle soap so i reconditioned my wallet with regular people lotion todayworked fine i guess
>>98006206there's nothing to refute./osrg/ decides what is and is not on-topic for itself.ntrpgcon is not /osrg/, nor are you.this solid logic stack cannot be refuted.
>>98006197Man your mental gymnastics are the funniest shit.>"Okay, yeah, I'm forced to admit it is old school, but the Old School Revival isn't about reviving Old School games, it's ACTUALLY about me being a total fuckhead on the internet over three letters."If you think OSR is a bad name, stop using it. Go be the First Decade Faggots and fuck off to the /fdf/.
>>98006213meant for >>98006202>>98006219go cry about it harder, bitch/osrg/ won.2e is for gay homosexual faggots like (You)
>>98006219Answer the question. Are Dawn Patrol and Chill (and Champions and Mekton and Teenagers from Outer Space) and boardgames and any game whatsoever under any style or publisher OSR?If no, then your citing of a con's landing page dedicated to all this is irrelevant.If yes, well, I guess we get to laugh at you even more.
>>98006231Sir, this is the OSR thread.Go back to your First Decade Faggots thread.
>>98006142Those are just a series of bald assetions. They're totally baseless, so they need no refutation.
>>98006241Is a Con focused on something forced to be exclusively about it?Fuck you're dumb.
>>98006163>The /osrg/ trolls always tire out, good discussion is hadL M A A A O O O O O O O
>>98006255Answer the question or concede the point, fishfag.
>>98006259Tell me if you understand what "focuses" means.
>>98006219>nooooo you have to change the naaaaame of the OSR general because it makes me mald too hard ;___;kek, will never get enough of how salty it makes you that you're completely powerless to do anything about /osrg/keep making this demand though, it's the funniest shit
>>98006248>Sir, this is the OSR thread.Right, which means that only OSR games are on topic here, not new-school crap like 2e and Spelljammer, and definitely not NSR games such as Beyond the Wall. Please take those to their own appropriate threads, not here where they don't belong.
>>98006255kek, the exact same argument you tried for ages trying to force 2e into /osrg/. What faggotry
>>98006264Answer the question or concede the point, fishfag. No dodging: just answer the question.I'll even restate it for you, in case your lithium-addled brain got lost:Are Dawn Patrol and Chill (and Champions and Mekton and Teenagers from Outer Space) and boardgames and any game whatsoever under any style or publisher published prior to 2000 (i.e. the remit of the con you keep citing as if it's an OSR authority) OSR?
>>98006163>good discussion is hadYeah, when exactly did this happen? Can you link one (1) instance?
what if you just added a green onion with the string cheeze when making mozzarella sticks?
>>98006248this is the "I cant hijack /osrg/ so im gonna cope and seethe with a """not general""" thread", yes
>>98006269You're not going to stop people from making these threads and otherwise trying to have OSR discussion outside of your /FDF/ thread. You're definitely going to try, but really you're whole business is based on a lie you even admitted. >>98006197You don't actually like what everyone else in the world thinks that the OSR is, and using that name is a source of endless frustration for you. That's why the smart solution is just to be honest and call yourselves a bunch of First Decade Faggots, especially because you're so gungho about how "4chan's definition of OSR is unique and special."It's not. 4chan's got the same definition everyone else does, it's just you who's living in your little hugbox and would benefit greatly from not trying to confuse everyone coming here with OSR expectations only to get FDF shit instead.
>>98006287Tell me if you understand what "focuses" means.
>>98006345tell me you know how many years a decade is
I just want to make sure I have this right:>OSR includes only a select few TTRPGs from the 80s>OSR includes any TTRPG mechanically compatible with a select few TTRPGs from the 80s>OSR includes any TTRPG inspired by the gameplay style of a select few TTRPGs from the 80sare these the three stances on this nerdfight? am I missing anything?
>>98006345>Answer the question or concede the point, fishfag. No dodging: just answer the question.Three times dodged. Looks like a big old concession for fishfag.Well, glad we could clear up your strange misconception that NTRPGCon claims to be OSR only and represents the OSR as a whole. That was weird, I have to admit.
>>98006353At least attach one of your "I lose" flags when you're making one of your "I lose posts". Like >>98006318
have any of you trolls noticed that the /osrg/ is pretty dead when all of you are focused on trolling in an alt osr thread. hmmm i wonder why that is?
>>98006367seek meds before posting
>>98006332>You're not going to stop people from making these threadsWe'll see.>a lie you even admittedNot my post, but also you just can't read if you think that anon admitted to any part of your retarded confabulation.>reeeee nooooooooo but you don't understaaaaaaaand the OSR General mades me mald so haaaaaaaard and my ass hurts so baaaaaaaad ;;;___;;;lmao
>>98006361You, idiot that you are, are hoping to bring up examples to prove that a con does not exclusively run old school games, as if that were some sort of gotcha. But, nowhere was it ever said they did.Instead, their mission statement is that they focus on them. That's it. The key thing though is how they chose to define what an old school game is, a definition so common that it's only in the hugbox you're so desperate to protect that a different definition exists.
>>98006332>4chan's got the same definition everyone else doesRight, exactly, that is: the OSR covers only old D&D during the period 1974-1983, played in the style originally intended by its creators, and clones of those editions.
>>98006360Technically it is also the 70s with those three
>>98006369They actually think that putting in performance posts is enough to make people think it's alive.
>>98006361>Looks like a big old concession for fishfag.He's tacitly admitted to having absolutely nothing at least a dozen times ITT. His assrage is all he's got.
>>98006369Actually, the /osrg/ is a nice, lively general, but slow as expected of a niche form of play. Nothing wrong with that. Back when we'd just started the general and there were no trolls or 2efags because it hadn't attracted negative attention for its pleasant climate yet, we routinely had to bump it off page 10 several times per thread.
>>98006392No, that's just you handful of trolls. Everyone else on 4chan, including the people you're so scared of you've spent hours/days trolling their thread, just uses the common and sane definition found everywhere else.
>>98006392>the OSR covers only old D&D during the period 1974-1983, played in the style originally intended by its creators, and clones of those editions.Correct
>>98006248>yet another tacit admission that he wants to hijack the /osrg/ and has the right to the OSR nameGood, keep piling them up.
>>98006416Fishfag's continued argument of "now that I'm not constantly trolling the shit out of the thread and constantly being told to fuck off, it sure is slower" is hilariously bizarre and yet not even in the top 10 of best retard logic examples he employs.
>>98006416Mmm yes, certainly. Definitely, oh yes, everyone believes that. Oh look at the lively discussions going on oh golly, so not forced and desperate at all. Meanwhile, you'd still rather be in the thread where real people are, even though the real people pretty much all think you're retarded.
>>98006419>the people you're so scared of
>>98006419Nope! Wrong. If you'd ever read that series of blog posts you were linked to earlier, you'd see a large number, probably the majority actually, of the guys who started the OSR comment on the posts, endorse their conclusions, and add even more anecdotes of their own to bolster its conclusions. In other words, everyone who actually likes, cares about or plays OSR games shares the correct pre-DL1 definition. The troll definition is the horseshit you keep spewing, but it can't even be said to be used by a handful of trolls since there's only one of you.
>>98006428Your argument of "the /osrg/ is alive and unbothered, we're not worried about anything at all, but we're going to keep desperately flooding threads like our lives depend on it" is pretty weak.
>>98006441>blog with ten visitorsWow what a source lol.
>>98006428It's fucking hilarious, right? "The mods finally started policing my trolling hard and deleting my posts if I shit up the OSR thread so now that I have to seethe impotently in flaccid threads of my own making the OSR thread is much nicer" really is not the great argument he thinks it is.
>>98006442>desperatelylollmao, even
>>98006431Kek, what's supposed to be forced about them? How delulu can you get?>Meanwhile, ITT:>>98005339
>>98006454His ability to deny reality transcends autism and elevates fishfag to paranoid schizophrenia levels.
>>98006431>rather be in the thread where real people areI mean yeah, I'd rather be in /osrg/ than post here for sure, but as long as you keep making up these hijack threads and samefagging fake activity into them, we have to be here instead mocking them into the ground. It's just got to be done.
>>98006441>the guys who started the OSRNo, you've just got the K&KA crew, a small group that's been desperate to try and fluff up their importance and pretend they started the OSR when the hard facts pretty much prove they didn't. They're even going out of their way to try and redefine OSR just so that they can try and create a claim that they were first, when they were actually years late to the party.You've got a picture perfect example of personal propaganda, and you're actually trying to pass it off to the rest of the world like you think that no one might question why guys would want to say they were the first and most important when all outside evidence shows they weren't.
>>98006462>>Meanwhile, ITT:>>>98005339Such an organic post that it terrifies the BrOSR into fits of laughter.
>>98006471What are you so worried about? If the samefagging fake activity is so obvious, wouldn't you want to encourage it?Kind of like how people are just leaving the /osrg/ alone so everyone can see how you guys do it?
>>98006471>It's just got to be done.You're talking like you don't enjoy raping fishfag. Don't be coy.
>>98006442We're flooding the thread because you don't get to make hijack threads of our general and push your fake OSR definition undisturbed, Fishfag. Why would you? Why do you believe you're entitled to do that without interference? I mean, I get that you have some sort of bizarre plot in your head to get other nogames who also don't know anything about the OSR to believe in it and then somehow that's going to let you conquer /osrg/ or whatever, but why do you think we have an obligation to just go along with it?
>>98006475>You've got a picture perfect example of personal propagandaThe projection is strong with this one.
>>98006477It's the most organic post I've ever seen. It's natural fertilizer. Manure, one might say.
>>98006485>What are you so worried about?They're really upset. They're having a meltdown. We're winning.
>>98006488Is that why todd had to die as well?
>>98006493The BrOSR are very upset. They're having a meltdown. They're terrified.
>>98006475>No, you've just got the K&KA crew, a small group that's been desperate to try and fluff up their importanceNo, see, you just made that up out of thin air as well, we were actually around to see you do it so you can't expect arguments like that to work. Why would we believe a lie we literally saw you workshop in real time? I get that your autism prevents you from adopting an outside perspective and that you're totally unable to answer the breakfast question, but if you strain both of your neurons, can't you tell that there's somehow *something* wrong with that plan?
>>98006498>>98006507For my part I'm melting up. I'm trying to mix it up this month.
>>98006419Please stop feeding the trolls.
>>98006488You're flooding the thread because you're scared of the idea that what you consider a "hijack" thread could prove to be more popular than the one you're attached to. There's really no two-ways about it. You've spent way, way too much energy in these threads to try and act like you're not overly concerned about them. Hell, saying you're concerned might have explained a couple posts, but the way you're posts shows you're pretty much terrified.You know, with absolute certainty, that without you constantly (and I mean constantly. whenever you let up, these threads almost immediately become normal) shitposting in them, they would eclipse your general.
>>98006517they're feeding themselves anon
>>98006369Please stop engaging with them.
>>98006504Who says /todd/ had to die? We of the /osrg/ certainly didn't try to kill it, and certainly not by shitposting it down. On the contrary, the last /todd/ seems to have died on the vine from lack of posting; you had a massive long spergout in it, and then after that nobody posted, the thread died of inactivity, and nobody remade it.
>>98006345Can you please stop talking to them?
>>98006517Kek, great timing, this timely intervention will definitely prevent the thread from dying in less than 20 posts
>>98006520>You're flooding the thread because you're scared of the idea that what you consider a "hijack" thread could prove to be more popular than the one you're attached to.Wrong. It's simply because you're a troll and you don't get to have anything, especially not at our expense. Seethe harder, Fishfag.
>>98006504todd died because of the sad reality that, while anyone can and should make a general in good faith if the space isn't already being explored by another general, that doesn't guarantee that there's enough of a readership to enable it to survive. It's too bad, because I'd like there to be a home for that sort of thing, if only to keep /osrg clean.The problem with all the various offshoots of the OSR is that they try to claim some of the mantle of the OSR but in the end are nothing but a loose conglomerate of largely unrelated games, which makes organic cross-talk of the sort that keeps a general alive very difficult. This is why /osrg, rooted in a historical understanding of the OSR and having a firm mission statement where everyone is largely on the same page instead of just operating on vibes, continues to chug along, and of course why fishfag is desperate to parasitize it, because he knows only a handful of people give a shit about 2nd ed.
>>98006517>>98006527>>98006536THEY FEED THEMSELVES. IT WILL TAKE JANNIE INTERVENTION TO END THIS. AND THEY DO NOTHING
>>98006520>you're scaredThey're terrified. Keep saying this. The more you say it, the more terrified they become. Say it enough times end we win.
>>98006517>>98006527>>98006536I'll talk to whomever I want.
>>98006520>that without you constantly shitposting in them, they would eclipse your generalLMAO no. I get that you wish that though.But also, you ocne again totally evaded even slightly answering my question. Why do you believe you have a right not to be trolled and flooded when you're deliberately, expressly (you just admitted it yet again) trying to supplant the OSR General? Answer the question.
>>98006529You definitely tried to kill it. Nothing kills a thread like you being in it. You even made sure to announce you endorsed those threads, which is pretty much guaranteed to drive people away from the thread. And when it became clear it was just you bumping it with the same thread-killing posts you use to bump the /osrg/, that's basically a death sentence. No one wants to take part in a discussion about games with you in it.
>>98006551>THEY FEED THEMSELVES. IT WILL TAKE JANNIE INTERVENTION TO END THIS. AND THEY DO NOTHINGYou're shouting.You're having a meltdown.You're really upset.
>>98006536Why should he? He's clearly deliberately helping us push out this faggoty troll thread.
>>98006551>IT WILL TAKE JANNIE INTERVENTION TO END THIS.Correct. Specifically, the janny intervention of deleting your hijack threads on sight.
>>98006551>IT WILL TAKE JANNIE INTERVENTION TO END THIS. AND THEY DO NOTHINGSherlock Fishfag still has no clue what's going on and why.It would be depressing if he weren't hilarious.
>>98006549todd died because it had a gay name and the only people who wanted it were the /osrg/ trolls to use it as a second-class thread.
>>98006567>Nothing kills a thread like you being in it.But we weren't in it? What kind of backwards logic is this, kek>it was just you bumping it with the same thread-killing postsWait, the thread died from dropping off the thread due to no posting... because... of bump posts being used to keep it alive? Lmao li'l bro none of this makes a lick of sense
>>98006551>I'M DEFINITELY NOT MAD THOUGHkekkkkk, dilate
>>98006581>Sherlock Fishfag still has no clue what's going on and why.Now picture the fact that how this has been playing out in the last two years is a reflection of how he behaves IRL. With this family, at the workplace, in school, and so on.Imagine having to live your life like that. With no clue how regular people think, how they behave and why, and a complete inability to cope with the challenges of having to exist in neurotypical society.It's a bit terrifying, really.
>>98006606>It's a bit terrifying, really.Yeah, we're dealing with a severely mentally damaged person. I would feel pity if I didn't find him so utterly annoying.But if I try to put myself in his shoes, then yeah. It's a bit scary.
>>98006606Presumably that's exactly why he wastes so much time trying to force 4chan to be a comprehensible and controllable environment.
>>98006551>IT WILL TAKE JANNIE INTERVENTION TO END THIS. AND THEY DO NOTHINGWhy do you figure they don't intervene? How do you explain it?
>>98006591>Wait, the thread died from dropping off the thread due to no posting... because... of bump posts being used to keep it alive? Lmao li'l bro none of this makes a lick of senseFishfag in a nutshell.
>>98006584Wait, what? Your conspiracy theories are becoming nuttier by the minute, what would we want with /todd/? What the fuck would be the point of posting in an ersatz thread instead of the actual OSR General? Unless you keep trying to force your fake revisionist definition, I don't see what business any of us would have in there.Well, that's that; have fun malding your way down to page 10 and see you when it's time to post the traditional reminder that 2e isn't OSR to close this up.
>>98006567Answer the question. What do you think is going on in these threads?
fishfag here. i went on /b/ for 2 seconds and saw a tranny vag. probably gonna kill my self. have a nice day.
>>98006591>the thread died from dropping off the threadGah, I meant dropping off the board, of course. Probably obvious, but flubbing it makes me fume a little anyway.
>>98006547Look. We all get you HAVE to say this. You have to perform some mental gymnastics to explain why you're so devoted, hell, obsessed with flooding these threads, but your actions speak much, much louder than your words.You're still on the whole "It's just one guy" thing, something everyone is more than aware of is a lie, including yourself. You're so scared of your "one guy", that having him samefag to himself is such a threat to you that you must spend days and literally thousands of posts trying to stop him. Stop him from... what exactly? Having a pitiful, lonely thread where he just posts back and forth to himself, faking a discussion? That's what you're saying you must stop at the expense of days of your life?Let's be real. The moment you give up with your flooding, you're going to lose. The forces at play are just stacked against you if allowed to flow freely. You've got a niche definition, are pretty much retarded, and have the personality of an STD. With that being all that's in your arsenal, of course all you can do is keep flooding and hope that your autistic no-life energy wins out.
Oh yeah, and another thing: I noticed not all of you guys are saging every post properly, but you'll want to keep up with that so each one of these tard threads spends as little time on page 1 as possible. Just a suggestion. (Now that we've hit bump limit it doesn't matter of course)
>>98006632>that's exactly why he wastes so much time trying to force 4chan to be a comprehensible and controllable environmentAbsolutely. He's trying to create a predictable and stable environment. And he doesn't realise that maladjusted coping mechanism is making things worse for himself.Clearly his family never supported him as a kid, and he's never developed a way to behave in socially acceptable manners.
>>98006662>The moment you give up with your flooding, you're going to lose.So in your opinion, we should keep doing it? We should stick to it forever and never let up?Anyway, your mald is showing. Like, the whole thing, it's just hanging right out. Just wanted to give you a heads-up about that.
>>98006662Answer the question, fishfag. Prove that you're not an autist with a severely impaired theory of mind. How do you explain this: >>98006551
>>98006662>We>alljej
>>98006674Stop trying to evade the question. Why this: >>98006551
>>98006709You confused me with Fishfag, pal. Read my post again more carefully this time.
>>98006674>I noticed not all of you guys are saging every post properlySherlock Fishfag is so smart. Nothing escapes him.
>>98006709nta buddy
>>98006674>we've hit bump limitANOTHER BROSR VICTORY
still not refuted btw
>>98006685In my opinion, you're stuck. You've got no other options left, other than to allow nature to take its course, which because of your ego you will fight tooth and nail. To you, that would be a loss, a personal loss, because of just how much time and energy and machinations(!) you've put into turning the /osrg/ until your personal hugbox.But, judging by the math, it's not gonna work out for you. These threads are not going to stop being made any time soon, and your own posts help to keep them lively and prominent while undermining your arguments and helping to show everyone what kind of weird trolls you happen to be when you're not doing your darnedest to pretend to be good boys.You've got nothing but troll blood in your veins, boy. That's why you're stuck doing the only thing you can do.
>>98006745in my opinion, youre a dumb newfag nogames freak and a gay jabroni
>>98006745Answer the question. Why is this happening: >>98006551
>>98006745>These threads are not going to stop being made any time soonSure they are.>keep them livelyLMAO>undermining your arguments and helping to show everyone what kind of weird trolls you happen to be Weren't you just seething a few posts ago about how we were ruining these threads and the only reason nobody was contributing to them was the avalanche of shitposts?Anyway, we flooded out every one of your fake /osrg/s that didn't get j& last time, and we'll do it again this time. Look forward to taking the same L over and over again until the jannies wake up!
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>>98006551At lest one of the Jannies will give you a warning for flagging the posts where they outright say they are trolling
>>98006767>flaggingnewfag babble, kys ditch shitter
>>98006721You didn't read it right either. I'm saying, next time Fishfag posts one of these retard hijack attempts, sage every one of your shitposts so it doesn't get bumped to page 1 from the flooding. The less time it spends visible, the better.
Bros, let's have a vote. How do we use next thread?1. ACKS effortposting.2. BrOSR shitposting.3. Insulting fishfag and his lap dog with dyslexia from "Appalacha" (sic).
>>98006774number 3, certainly. the fake hillbilly affectation is hillariously pathetic
>>98006772... you're scared of these threads being seen?
>>98006794Scared? Nah.
>>98006774I wanna talk about Dwarf kits
>>98006774I feel strongly that BrOSR musclemen and Earl Norem Wizards can be fruitfully combined with Deliveranceposting.
>>98006813off-topic trash
>>98006841Don't be silly: this is the 2nd ed and Chill and Mouse Trap and Dawn Patrol and Hungry Hungry Hippos thread. Anything literally ever made before the year 2000 qualifies, now. After all, one con runs itself that way, and through the magic of schizo osmosis that in turn defines the OSR, and no power on earth can defy it.I don't make the rules.
>>98006774Thulsa Doom posting gets my vote.
BROSR WON AGAIN
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>>98006140Why don't >y'all lurk for more than 3 months you buck toothed square toed sister diddler.
>>98008598he's not even a real hillbilly, he's a ditch shitter pretending to be one
>>98005056>everything was invented sometime, dumb fucknta The point being, it's a shame I have to explain this to you but it seems to have gone right over your head, the repeated claim that /osrg/ is and always was "first decade" and the OP never changed is a complete lie when "first decade" didn't appear until 2019.
>>980101652e was never OSR. Doesn't matter that the OP neglected to say it explicitly.
>>98010626Nobody cares about your autism.
>>98010639Your mother doesn't care for you being alive and hopes you'll drown in the diarrhea ditch of Bangalore, subhuman.
>>98010639Last for fishfag sports diarrhea-adapted gills.
>>98010769I think you're just projecting how you see yourself out unto the world.
>>98010799Last for fishfag sports diarrhea-adapted gills.
Fishfag's latest OSR totally-not-a-general was deleted by the jannies: >>98010378ANOTHERBROSRVICTORY
