Tell me why you love Old School Revival/Renaissance/Resurrection/Rewind/Return/Remix/Retribution/Redeployment/Riff/RelaxDontDoIt games. That's including all D&Ds before 3e and any games based off of them.And if you actually hate them, lets talk things out. There's more to the OSR than what those weird guys hanging in the /osrg/ seem to have a mind it should be, and the ultimate goal of all gaming, OSR or otherwise, should always be finding what's the most fun. Maybe that means not an OSR game for you, but even so I think there's some good wisdom that can be found where games came from that can help where they're going.>TQ>What sacred cow is the most sacred?>Inverted TQ>Which sacred cow should always be slaughtered?
>>98007107Welcome to the latest in a seemingly endless series of fishfag schizo hijack attempts of /osrg.The real thread can be found here.>>98004530>>98004530>>98004530
I play a bunch of OSR games.I've played every edition of D&D and run most of them, and right now I've got a BECMI game set in Mystara and a 2e game in Faerun (Cormyr), and a bunch of random pick-up games from time to time, usually to test out a new system.I'm running the games I am because my friends are nerds, the kind with stacks of old Dragon magazines and who debate endlessly over whether they'd rather give a rimjob to Gygax or Arneson. To be absolutely honest, I could probably run anything and they'd still have fun, but I've got the old books and I might as well put them to use.The Mystara campaign materials are so underappreciated. My players are deadset on making their own empire.
>>98007150Can I talk about 2e there?
>See chest guarded by skeletons>Fight skeletons>Chest is trapped>Disarm trap>Chest is locked>Pick lock>Chest has armor>Put on armor>It's cursed>Can I take off armor?No.FUN
>>98007107>What sacred cow is the most sacred?Nat 20's are auto hit. I put that shit in every game that uses a d20 that I run, even if it doesn't have it.>Which sacred cow should always be slaughtered?I hate hate hate encumbrance. I run games so that if the players are thinking "ugh how much am i carrying am i carrying to much" then that means they need to get raped by a giant scorpion so they think about that instead. I never actually check my players if they're carrying too much.
>>98007175>The Mystara campaign materials are so underappreciated.The maps are great.https://atlasofmystara.com/gazetteer/I wish I still had some of my old poster maps. I'm tempted to go to a print shop and just getting a bunch printed, though it's gonna cost me like 40 bucks each.
>>98007202>wear cursed armor so long that after you finally manage to take it off, you realize that you've actually grown fond of it and put it back on again
>>98007223I like encumberance. It makes getting a big Bag of Holding feel so worthwhile.
>>98007223>>98007317Doesn't half the non-equipment item design revolve around that you are limited on what you can carry by encumbrance?
>>98007107OSR is stupid. Books are books. Read 'em and if you wanna play a game, play it. OSR is an attempt to redefine how we played TSR D&D according to nonsense.What's good about TSR-era D&D is the settings.
>>98007107I think the vancian casting is the one that kills it for most folks. If you remove it, it no longer feels like d&d
>>98007175cormyr game can be damned soild. I do agree the Mystara stuff is vastly under appreciated.
>>98007202>See chest guarded by skeletons>the skeletons seem to be making strange, masturbatory motions, and then staring at the spot where they pretended to cum on>throw a pair of dice at the skeletons>the skeletons pick them up, nod in gratitude, and then go over to the corner to play, leaving the chest unguarded
>>98007223>>hate hate hate encumbranceI am right there with you. I don't think I track that shit in any game I run. Mote go on of "is this reasonable"?
>>98007253I got a few of my old hexmaps still. I need to hunt them out. Thanks for the link!
>>98007223I think encumbrance needs to be kept simple. If you’re counting how many pounds you’re carrying then ya that’s too much. My preferred way is slot based encumbrance (like STR + half of CON = equipment slots) where people still need to make a choice about what to carry, but aren’t busting out their calculators
>>98007335NTA, but OSR makes sense in what it is. It's a recreation of pre 3e rulesets, or game styles. It's just a genre of games.I do agree the settings are the best thing about TSR. I love so many of those, and you can play a setting with near any system.
>>98007371BTA, but that is soild but should be about how much you carry more than pure pounds. As a GM you can always go "no you can't carry two 80 pound items and the rest of your gear"
>>98007377>NTA, but OSR makes sense in what it is. It's a recreation of pre 3e rulesets, or game styles. It's just a genre of games.Retclones I get. But OSR isn't just that. It's a recreation of how people imagine games used to be played but rarely-if-ever actually were. It's a very narrow way of playing those games.
>>98007107>That's including all D&Ds before 3e and any games based off of them.That's incorrect. This is a false definition of OSR which you've made up on your own. You ought to know better than to try to autistically push this across the board.
>>98007107Yet another in a seemingly endless string of threads posted only to seethe about /osrg/; jannies, please remove this thread.
>>98007189No, it's off-topic. This thread has been conquered by the BrOSR. You're only allowed to talk about Pokémon here.
>>98007189No, of course not, since it's not an OSR game.
>>98007377>>98007388>you can play a setting with near any system.PS: Ugh if only you could play them in 5e. My fucking players wanted 5e so we're playing Spelljammer in it. This sunday'll be session 3 in the same fucking dungeon because combat is a slog that takes fifteen years.
>>98007388Yes and no, some groups do that but many do not. The games themselves can vary wildly. Look at C&C, it's a neo clone, then jump to stuff like the black hack or black sword hack or to stars without number.All those have different ideas on what the "old school" playstyle is. Some think lethal and gritty, others think "simple system". It's just a wide bunch of slightly related games
Enough off-topic bullshit. Post your favourite Pokémons.
>>98007335OSR CAN be stupid. But, it's generally not.>What's good about TSR-era D&D is the settings.There's plenty of good kernels of mechanical philosophy in OSR games. I almost bust a nut when I start a game and the players just pick from a handful of classes and we start actually playing in under half an hour.
>>98007189>can I talk about 3e in /4eg/?No lmao, why would you possibly think a thing like that?
>>98007317>I like encumberance. It makes getting a big Bag of Holding feel so worthwhile.I also like [rule]. It makes [magic item] feel so worthwhile. Thanks for this very organic and insightful comment.
>>98007393>>98007404>>98007407>>98007412>>98007418You're being asked to leave politely.
>>98007377>It's a recreation of pre 3e rulesetsThat is incorrect. It's pre-2e.
>>98007253I also like ["AD&D" 2e setting]. Its [materials from that setting] are very unappreciated.Thanks for this very organic and insightful comment.
>>98007413Ugh, my condolences. It is hard to break new gamers who came in with 5e from 5e. I managed it twice by switching them to savage worlds as it wasn't like d&d. One of those groups I was then able to get to try Beyond the wall and a short game of the black hack.Our current game is sci-fi or I would totally do spelljammer as our next game. But I try to make sure the new games are very different from the last campaign, ya know?
>>98007441You're being asked to fuck off and never return, rudely.
>>98007441Absolutely not. Since this is an OSR thread, we, the OSR posters, will continue to post here, about the actual OSR and not your spammed fake definition.If you don't want to get correct, simply stop telling lies. You've been told often enough.
>>98007441>You're being asked to leave politely.You still don't understand what's happening in this threads, eh, fishfag?
Sh the osrg trolls have arrived to fist each other's asses and fist bump over it. I ask everyone to just ignore those trolls. Do not feed them.
>>98007441Oh? Leave? Are you a janny? Mod? You have the power to do that?
>>98007418I like [Pokémon name]. It has really cute [Pokémon body part].
>>98007441Take solace, they're making their trolling more visible, and they're getting more and more brazen/open. It's giving ample ammunition/evidence that when the mods DO step in they're going to get a much harsher punishment than otherwise. Now, post about OSR stuff (and the OSR thread will return after this contingent.)
>>98007456>I ask everyoneYou're still trying to pass for more than one person, fishfag? That's cute.
>>98007317NTA, but bags of holding are more about mass and volume than encumbrance. I mean, I had fuckers put a lot of shit in em that you would not be carrying around just because it's awkward
>>98007467They're very upset. They're having a meltdown. They're terrified.
>>98007107LOOOOL, you tried to shake up the OP to dodge us but couldn't resist once again pissing and shitting about /osrg/ right in the OP text, huh? Nice to know we're like a hook in your flesh, Fishfag.
>>98007467The mods allow Thier trolling and the trolls know they are protected
>>98007482>bags of holding are more about mass and volume than encumbranceSuch an insightful and organic comment. This is totally the way real human beings have real discussions about games, and not forced at all.
>>98007485I'm aware. Let them seethe and continue to actually talk OSR.Now, Dark Sun, what are some good megadungeons i can run in that setting?
>>98007491You still don't understand what's actually going on, eh, fishfag? Hilarious.
>>98007497Humm, I don't know much about mega dungeons but DS is a good place for ruins and undead. You will have to rework a lot as the green age was all about psionics and undead on Athas are all unique if they are intelligent
>>98007497>Dark Sun, what are some good megadungeons i can run in that setting?Wow, what an insightful and totally not interchangeable question that you're totally honestly asking not yourself.
>>98007497>Let them seetheThey're seething so hard. They're terrified. They're having a meltdown. They're so upset.
>>98007459I prefer [other Pokémon]. I think [other body part] is cuter.Thank you for this organic discussion.
>>98007507>but DS is a good place for ruins and undead.I'm mainly picturing something with an ancient almost pulpy feel to it (red nails etc) aside from forbidden city and b4 what else is out there? Maybe gunderholfen?
>>98007529Do you like [Pokémon]? I really its power of [power].Thanks for an organic discussion.
>>98007497Really any. Dark Sun lets you take any dungeon, shove it in the desert, and call it an ancient ruin. Maybe throw some extra sand on it.I actually threw White Plume Mountain into a Dark Sun campaign just for kicks, though I might have fucked up a bit because the three main treasures might be too much for the setting. As for good megadungeons, I don't really know any. I generally think they're overrated as a concept.
On the topic of Dark Sun. I love that damned setting, it's D&D mad max. It twisted races and classes away from the d&d norm and would have went farther if TSR didn't force them to include some things.This setting is what sparked my love of non standard fantasy. It's why my own homebrews are not standard, I love that it twisted things.I have such fun memories of my old group mocking the idea they should fear halfings. Two of them got eaten. After that they were terrified of the little fuckers lol
>>98007549It's almost as good as [Pokémon].
>>98007552>Dark Sun lets you take any dungeon, shove it in the desert, and call it an ancient ruin.Wow. Such an insightful comment. Totally a real conversation.
>>98007552>I actually threw White Plume Mountain into a Dark Sun campaign just for kicks, Give us a session recount, it sounds fun.> I generally think they're overrated as a concept.Interesting take. Why don't you like them?
>>98007555>Dark Sun is D&D mad maxWow. So insightful. I had never noticed that. What an organic discussion.
>>98007564[Other Pokémon] is much better, though.
>>98007541As I said, I have no clue about published dungeons or the early mods. I got into d&d about 90 or 91 and it was my 3rd RPG. So I just made my stuff up. Why buy an adventure with my limited funds when I could get a source book or a setting book or often the battletech minis I needed to complete one of my companies.As such, I never touched the D&D mods
>>98007555DarkSun basically just being "Brom, please draw us a setting" makes me wish that was the way most settings got made. Artist-first, instead of writer-first.
Do you like the ACKS II Amphisbaena? I think it's a very good monster
>>98007552Ya know, if you made it biomechanical it would fit right in with a 1st age ruin. That life shaped stuff was pretty sci-fi
>>98007600I like ACKS II Giant Ants. They have antennas.
>>98007609ACKS II Attercops are also very good. They're like spiders, but evil.
>>98007600I don't like them. I think they are overrated. I like other monster.
>>98007617ACKS II also has Rock Baboons. They're a staple of D&D. They remind me of Mad Max.
>>98007599I can not argue with this. Brom made some amazing art for DS, so damned appealing. It drew me and abd made me want to have that setting
>>98007622Can I interest you in ACKS II Báleygr, then? You could put them in a desert and then... BAM! You're in Dark Sun.
>>98007600that's from Greek myth right? Nice art
>>98007555> Two of them got eaten. The funny thing about DS is that technically every race is a halfling descendant. Are there any settings other than athas that did a unique spin on them? ( hardmode: No kender)
>>98007636I love ACKS II art! You could also use Barghests as monsters. You put them in spaceships and... BAM! You're on Spelljammer!
>>98007632That is good. I like that in melee it will attack with one of its giant-sized weapons. I accept.
>>98007637>The funny thing about DS is that technically every race is a halfling descendant.That's so funny! What an interesting trivia!The funny thing about ACKS II Basilisks is that they come in two varieties
>>98007663Here's the other type of ACKS II Basilisk. Alexander Macris, who is a great game designer, made two versions: One that matches classic D&D literature, and the other one that matches the traditional myth. That's so insightful!
>>98007637Let me say with all my soul...FUCK KENDER. Just fucking no.I don't think so, DS had a very unique set up. I know FR a lot of the cultures came from earth that got star gated in. I only know surface stuff for many other settings so I am unsure.Also DS dragons are fucking nuts. I also love the very concept of preserver and defilers. Also elves being tall shifty fuckers that ran everywhere will always be fun to me
>>98007673Love it! But don't underestimate the ACKS II Common Bat, by Alexander Macris. You can put them on a WWI fighter plane and... BAM! You're in Mystara. Mystara is a very good setting.
>>98007675>FUCK KENDER. Just fucking no.Such an organic and spontaneous discussion. This is a very insightful comment. What do you think about ACKS II Black Bears? They're smaller than Brown Bears and Cave Bears.
>>98007688Very organic comment. Speaking of Bears, I really like ACKS II Bugbears! If you give them digital wathches, it looks like you're on Eberron!ACKS II is a game by Alexander Macris. Best RPG game designer alive.
>>98007582I wish something interesting to say happened in White Plume itself, but the players went through it in a pretty straightforward fashion. It was when they left that they started acting like they thought that they had become gods.The campaign shifted from "Let's find ruins and explore and try to have fun in the land of the dark sun!" to "SLAVERS MUST DIE."
>>98007706>The campaign shifted from "Let's find ruins and explore and try to have fun in the land of the dark sun!" to "SLAVERS MUST DIE."Such an organic and insightful comment.FUCK YEAH! I hate slavers. Did you know that Alexander Macris, author of ACKS II, owns slaves? That's horrible, but I like ACKS II Giant Killer Bees. If you turn their colours into a rainbow pattern, it feels like you're on Faerun!
>>98007712Do the bees own slaves? I need to know this for the campaign I am most assuredly running right now.
>>98007712ACKS II giant apes are very good, but what about Bombardier Beetles? If you put them in a desert it looks like you're in Dark Sun.I love Alexander Macris, even though he owns slaves.
>>98007637>The funny thing about DS is that technically every race is a halfling descendantThat makes the whole "halflings are cannibalistic" extra upsetting.Darksun halflings ironically would probably be the last of the races to turn cannibalistic. They've have by far the lowest caloric needs, and likely could endure a state of starvation for considerably longer before they decided to take a taste of the forbidden pork.
>>98007731>That makes the whole "halflings are cannibalistic" extra upsetting.ACKS II Blood Hounds are also very upsetting. If you put them inside a pokéball they look like pokémon, they're very upsetting. The players in my campaign that I'm totally playing are very upset by them.
Fuck off, 3e can be OSR too. OSR is a style of game philisophy not a ruleset.West Marches is more OSR than Ravenloft.
>>98007738ACKS II Bronze Bulls are also very upsetting. And they look like Eberron out of the box!My players in my campaign that I am totally playing are totally upset by Bronze Bulls.
>>98007744>West Marches is more OSR than Ravenloft.That's a very low bar. Everything is more OSR than Ravenloft and "AD&D" 2e.
>>98007491>Thier
>>98007482I also put awkwardly large or heavy stuff in bags of holding, when I don't put it in portable holes! What are the odds?! Crazy, right? What an organic coincidence.
>>98007497>Dark SunAgain? Do you have like a rotation or something? Birthright-Spelljammer-Dark Sun-back to Birthright?
>>98007768Once the players in a campaign I totally played put their stuff in a portable hole. They were very upset.
>>98007459Hey guys, did you know that in terms of male human and female Pokémon breeding, Vaporeon is the most compatible Pokémon for humans? Not only are they in the field egg group, which is mostly comprised of mammals, Vaporeon are an average of 3”03’ tall and 63.9 pounds, this means they’re large enough to be able handle human dicks, and with their impressive Base Stats for HP and access to Acid Armor, you can be rough with one. Due to their mostly water based biology, there’s no doubt in my mind that an aroused Vaporeon would be incredibly wet, so wet that you could easily have sex with one for hours without getting sore. They can also learn the moves Attract, Baby-Doll Eyes, Captivate, Charm, and Tail Whip, along with not having fur to hide nipples, so it’d be incredibly easy for one to get you in the mood. With their abilities Water Absorb and Hydration, they can easily recover from fatigue with enough water. No other Pokémon comes close to this level of compatibility. Also, fun fact, if you pull out enough, you can make your Vaporeon turn white. Vaporeon is literally built for human dick. Ungodly defense stat+high HP pool+Acid Armor means it can take cock all day, all shapes and sizes and still come for more
>>98007549I think that [Pokémon] is underrated because it can evolve into [Pokémon]. Then it can use [rare power]!
>>98007781>Do you have like a rotation or something?Fishfag has severe autism, so all of his posts follow a strict pattern of mentioning one thing about "AD&D" 2e in rotation, and adding a totally useless comment to it.
>>98007552>>98007555Lmao, he're really trying to effortpost to hide his shit this time around and give the impression that the thread has any real contents.
>>98007788ROTFLmy sides
>>980077443e can be OSR, that's sort of what made "d20-based OSR games" a reality. But, it's still 3e being used to capture the spirit of material printed before 3e came out.>West Marches is more OSR than Ravenloft.Now you might have gone a step too far. I'm not sure though, because if you mean Ravenloft the adventure, that's pretty much firmly OSR. Ravenloft the setting... well, most of it is pretty OSR. There's some stuff that came out in the 90's like The Masque of the Red Death that doesn't feel like it even wants to be related to D&D, but those are the exception rather than the rule.
>>98007600I like it because it's ACKS, but besides that the two-headed snake reminds me too much of 2e so I don't really enjoy it.
>>98007807>3e can be OSR3e is always OSR, since the OSR was born in opposition to 3.5e.3e and earlier editions are all OSR.
>>98007812Imagine an Amphisbaena with two halfling heads from Dark Sun. The players in the campaign I'm totally running would be very unsettled by it.Or I could put it in a spacesuit and use it in Spelljammer.
>>98007706>>The campaign shifted from "Let's find ruins and explore and try to have fun in the land of the dark sun!" to "SLAVERS MUST DIE."Ya know what? Fair. Killing slavers is always a good time.
>>98007706>killing slavers with a sword named Blackrazor in a world called Dark SunSheeeeit, it's just like a blaxploitation film.
>>98007673>Alexander Macris, who is a great game designer, made two versions: One that matches classic D&D literature, and the other one that matches the traditional myth.Wow, that's so clever! ACKS truly is a great game, one for the ages.
>>98007712>Did you know that Alexander Macris, author of ACKS II, owns slaves?I heard that he forces the slaves to engage in miscegenation in an attempt to breed the perfect basilisk!
>>98007497You gotta make your own mega-dungeons.You're gonna be spending months (maybe years) in it, might as well make it 100% your own.They're really easy to make too. You just start making a dungeon and forget how to stop.
>>98007738I'm melting down.
>>98007107>>What sacred cow is the most sacred?Love me some Magic Missile.Magic Missile always hitting is sacred to me.It's a terrible spell. But it's important to have because it teaches risk vs. reward perfectly.4e changed it and I actually got mad.I'm still mad.
>>98007816True, this is proven by the first OSR game coming out after the release of 3.5e. Post hoc ergo propter hoc is an ironclad law of nature, not a fallacy.
>>98007822That does sound like a Spelljammer monster because they're all so roflrandom! Maybe it pilots a spaceship made out of a giant capybara!!! It would be a very organic spaceship.
>>98007967
After getting his samefagging patterns and his subhuman simulation of human discussion exposed, fishfag has stopped posting.ANOTHERBROSRVICTORY
>>98007450Great! What's your favorite version of Basic? I like Rules Cyclopedia. I know, it's just BECMI but it's what I started with and it'd break my heart to not be able to talk about it with fellow OSR players!
>>98007600>Two headed snake that appears to be in an argument with iteelfHueh.
>>98008079BECMI/RC is universally recognized as OSR, you can talk about it in the real /osrg/: >>98004530It's true that may regulars prefer B/X, but nobody sensible would suggest it's not OSR. I personally consider the RC the best single D&D book, in tough competition with the DMG.
>>98008085lmao, imblyign
>>98008054Funny old world, isn't it.You can tell how close he is to being totally demoralized by how much he's cry-seething about how he's going to keep hijacking over and over and nobody can stop him and "the trolls" will tire out and also have no lives, etc, it's very funny. For example, last thread he was extremely insistent about it and then this time he changed up the OP to try to escape.
>>98008085LMAOYou're a fucking geniusHere's my take on the ANPHISHFAGSBAENA
>>98007107What counts as a sacred cow?I think the only classes should be fighter, mage, and priest.
>>98007960Looking back, it's kind of amazing how many spells were largely unchanged between 2e and 3e.They're such totally different systems, but just about every AD&D spell made its way into 3e even if the original spell's purpose was nowhere near as important. Like Tenser's Floating Disc. Or Light.
>>98008095RC was published in 1991, posting there has gotten me warned and my post deleted.
>>98008209I guess that's a sacred cow. A weird fucking one, but you do you.Like, at least include thief.
>>98008209>What counts as a sacred cow?An ACKS II minotaur when you cast Bless on it.ACKS II is a game by Alexander Macris. Best game designer since Gary Gygax.
>>98008218Theives are garbage.Theif skills ruined the game. I will hate thief skills until the day I die and no one will ever convince me otherwise.
>>98008079I have been enjoying OSE. I like to use the advanced stuff but it's not bad
>>98008231How do you get past a locked door then?
>>98008209>>98008210>>98008215>>98008218
>>98008231Rolling to Steal Anon's watch.
>>98008231>Theives>Theif Fishfag's dyslexic lapdog has entered the fake conversation.
>>98008215Yeah it's not an osr thread. It's just a weird echo chamber for trolls
Rolled 7, 4 = 11 (2d10)>>98008255Oh god damn it.
>>98008244Fishfag trying to simulate human: discussion.>I have been enjoying [EDITION]. I like to use the [THING IN EDITION] but it's not badSo insightful. So organic.
>>98008255>>98008262I'll get your watch someday, Anonymous.
>>98008210Where'd Aquavision go.How am I supposed to see in underwater darkness without my Aquavision.
>>98008259>It's just a weird echo chamber for trollsSherlock fishfag still hasn't realised what's going on in this thread.Hilarious
>>98008210What gets you is the little wording changes. A lot of 3e things had the same names and terms from older editions, but changed them in ways that may not be clear at first
>>98008231>Theives are garbage.Not in ACKS II. In ACKS II the Thief is great. Macris's many genius innovations with darksense, and the ability to hastily hide, search, pick locks, sneak, and trapbreak make it a FANTASTIC class.And don't get me started on Hijinks, special downtime activities for Thieves.Really the best version of the Thief in any edition.Macris is an awesome game designer.
>>98008274Here, I upgraded it for you.
>>98008285>[Edition] changed some things with respect to [edition before it] in ways that are not clear at first.Such an organic and insightful, totally not samefishfagged discussion.
>>98008231I think replacing them with rogue was a good move
>>98008245>How do you get past a locked door then?First of all you steal its doorknob, as fishfag says you have to do when you play with XP for gold.
>Soon as he's called out as having cucked out due to getting memed on he immediately starts posting againhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy1qYdQhSp0
>>98008297>I think replacing [class] with [class] was a good moveSuch an organic, totally not interchangeable discussion between two Anons neither one of which is fishfag.
>>98008285Like my precious Stoneskin. Stoneskin used to be a huge flat "Fuck You" before 3rd edition made it pretty much worthless.
>>98008288ACKS II Thieves are unironically great. Replacing the B/X Thieves with ACKS II Thieves was a great move.
>>98008297Name is way better.Though, I never really liked backstab and it's an incredibly dumb mechanic. They've tried to make it work for 5+ editions and it's still always fucking terrible.
>>98008297I would have gone with "scoundrel".
>>98008362>Name is way better.Such an insightful comment. Thanks for making it.
>>98008376>I would have gone with "scoundrel".That's a very good name. Very organic comment. This will make me a better DM.
>>98008362>>98008376Thief, Rogue, or Scoundrel? What's the best name? What do you think, Anons? This is a very good conversation. Totally not the kind that would be faked to make it look like this is a popular thread.
>>98008321IIRC it was a huge nerf. Which is funny given how much they boosted casters
>>98008409Thick lines or thin lines?
>>98008321>made it pretty much worthless.>>98008412>it was a huge nerfWow. Such an organic discussion between two totally different Anons sharing their wisdom.What do you think of overflowing tables?
>>98008424>What do you think of overflowing tables?They're pretty bad.
>>98008085>>98008207This is an actual stroke of genius, kekFishfag on suicide watch (again)
>>98008362Yeah, 5e makes it easier to do but its hard to set up at times. Not sure what to replace it with however.>>98008376They did use that for the two d20 Star wars games. It has a good feel, but it's a very different feel than rogue.
>>98008416Whichever one you use, if you put them in the desert it's like Dark Sun. Dark Sun is like D&D but Mad Max.
>>98008362You ever get the feeling that those 1e-only guys get mad about other editions because they've never played them or played them wrong? It always feels like the people with a more sensible approach to OSR are just people with a lot more experience and generally more open to new experiences.I like OSR games, but I don't hate 3e or 4e or 5e, or any game really.But the guys who hate those games and hate more besides that make me wonder why they go out of their way to be stupid.
>>98008432>5e>d20 Star warsBoth are more OSR than "AD&D" 2e.
>>98008430>Fishfag on suicide watch (again)He started furiously and desperately samefagging immediately after it was posted to bury it.He's the most assravaged creature on the planet.
>>98007223t. thinks this is an acceptable adventurer loadout
>>98008215Supposing that really happened, you were probably doing some weaselly shit like trying to use the publication date of the Rules Cyclopedia (1991 compilation of Basic, essentially unchanged since 1983) to argue for the inclusion of 2e (1989, shat all over AD&D and definitively killed the old-school style in the AD&D line), rather than just be a peaceful and harmless Basic enjoyer.
>>98008442>I like OSR games, but I don't hate 3e or 4e or 5e, or any game really.No OSR guy hates 3e, 4e, or 5e. We only hate 2e because it's a game for retard storygaming faggots like fishfag and his lap dog with dyslexia.
>>98008458>you were probably doing some weaselly shit like trying to use the publication date of the Rules Cyclopedia to argue for the inclusion of 2eWho, fishfag? He would NEVER do something like that!
>>98008442NTA, but that is my experience as well. Those who lock themselves into one game or one way of playing are never open to new ideas. You can't correct them as they are "correct" and everyone else is "doing it wrong" or "stupid". It's why they hate OSR games, those evolve, they try new things, they mix and match rules and mechanics and share ideas. To those folks, that is the most wrong you can ever be.
>>98008288Sure, but you can't compare the works of the genius Macris (= My Christ, i.e. Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior) with those of mortal men. They're simply on a different level. For example, God made Fishfag apparently effortlessly, but could a human being even conceive of such a crippled mosntrosity, let alone create one? No.
>>98007377Nah, 3rd is one of the best osr games out there. Its all about getting back to the dungeon.
>>98008476>God made Fishfag apparently effortlessly, but could a human being even conceive of such a crippled mosntrosity, let alone create one? No.I certainly couldn't have. He keeps surprising me with greater and greater depths of actual literal autism.
>>98008432I've always thought every class should be able to do backstabs (and rogues maybe getting slightly more damage with them), but they're not a combat thing and instead a way to let players end fights with weak shit quick. Instead, they've made it just this dumb damage source for rogues, and they can't take it away because the whole rogue identity is built on it now.
>>98008432>Yeah, 5e makes it easier to do but its hard to set up at times. Not sure what to replace it with however.Very insightful! This will make me a more organic DM.
>>98008504>I've always thought every class should be able to do backstabslol nogames faggot retard.
>>98008451>He's the most assravaged creature on the planet.Which is ironic, because as the picture shows, he has no ass!...Wait, does that make his face his ass? Does he shit out of his mouths? Man, this metaphor is better the more you go into it.
>>98008452Grab the Barrier Peaks power suit with its anti-grav belt and you're basically that.
>>98008501Exactly. We men show flashes of genuine creativity at times, like >>98008085, but only God could have come up with the brutal dunk that is Fishfag's brain damage.
>>98008458Cite rules changed in 2e that prevent the "proper" OSR playstyle from occurring. No whataboutism of insufficiently pedestalizing them or additional rules supporting other playstyles "too much", actual outright loss of required functions to play an Old School game using AD&D 2e.
>>98008515>>98008530Ahphishfagsbaena talking to itself
>>98008491That's right, people forget this, but 3e was actually created to get back to the old school spirit after the storyfagging Mormon catastrophe that was 2e. Ultimately they blew it and had to wait for Marshall and Finch to salvage the true spirit of D&D, but their hearts were in the right place.Except for Monte Cook, who I think may never have had a heart.
>>98008458>It didn't happen>And if it did, it was your fault. Yeah yeah. Heard that one before.
>>98008536>Cite rules changed in 2e that prevent the "proper" OSR playstyle from occurring.We've already done this a hundred times, fishfag. You will never understand it, because you're literally clinically retarded. We're not an autistic fixation support group. Seek psychiatric help.
>>98008442Not sure what that has to do with backstab sucking for 5+ editions, but okay
>>98008530...Folks, should I tell him?
>>98008538huh? It's not showing the image. Odd.
>>98008504Do kinda like the 3e coup de grace. I can see that as just another action they can take. I think the way to go is what 3e did, redefine it. You would need to get it away from backstab and figure out what it does that other classes do not.
>>98008560Ah I had enabled work mode, my bad
Kinda amusing to watch the osrg trolls samefagg with themselves as folks ignore them.
>>98008582ummm I'll have you know that there's only person in /osrg and he's been there since at least 2012 and perhaps before the creation of time itself
>>98007960>It's a terrible spellI'm gonna disagree here. It's a terrible spell, right up until it's not. A 1st level spell slot that gets you 4d4+4 or 5d4+5 auto hitting damage that's stopped by all of 2 non-spell things in the game (Brooch of Shielding, Magic Resistance, but MR just fucks casters in general) that almost nothing is outright immune to, and with a minimum possible casting time so it's next to impossible to interrupt the attack, is a really fucking good deal. It's ~15 points of solid, reliable damage, and that's enough to always matter, especially up until about early 2e when they start inflating monster HP.
>>98008536No.
>>98008582It's genuinely a treat, but you're kinda ruining it.
>>98008582>as folks ignore themlmaonot only is nothing else happening ITT, you're just one guy
>>98008207Anphisfagsbaena - v2Gemini had added an extra spurious tail at the bottom.
>>98008652Excellent.
>>98008652>Gemini>When mspaint is RIGHT THEREI'd expect no less of an /osrg/fag.
>>98008622Anyone saying MM is useless has never been jumped by Will O'Wisps. Just ignore the retards.
>>98008665>When mspaint is RIGHT THEREI used Gemini to clean up the transition between the head and the snake body. Much better quality.
>>98008622Yeah, but that's nothing compared to most powerful 1st level spell, Oilskin.>This spell prevents fog, rain, waves, hail, and other forms of precipitated water from touching the person or small object upon which the spell is cast. Precipitation comes within an inch of the body or object, but strikes an invisible barrier and does not penetrate to the clothes or skin. The spell is also effective against intermittent wetting by waves. The barrier does not affect any type of missile or other object.>An individual under this spell can see more clearly than most in driving rain because none gets into his eyes. An individual or object struck by a wave remains dry, but if immersed in the ocean, the mass of water is sufficient to overcome the barrier and the individual or object becomes wet, ending the spell immediately. The material component of this spell is a small square of cloth that has been treated with oil so as to become water-repellent. >2 turns/level
>>98008670>Anyone saying MM is useless has never been jumped by Will O'Wisps.Such an organic comment. Very insightful. Surely anybody who reads this will think "wow, this is a great thread, I want to join" this insightful and organic discussion.
Fishfag has stopped lying about ACKS and making shit up to say it's a bad game.Another BrOSR triumph.
>>98007107>no nigs>no fags>no bluehairs >no corpo shit Gee I wonder what the appeal of osr could possibly be…
>>98008670Are you getting jumped by Will O'Wisps often?Are you living in some sort impoverished swamp?Are these Ghetto'Wisps?
>>98008670This post made my organelles a better DM.
>>98008697He's just too scared of the rippling muscles of a true chäd. Macho Mandalf is like a Scotsman, he eats fish for breakfast.
>>98008676Pretty useful when I'm with your mom.
>>98008698There was a lot of that in osr, basically 2015 until the zakening. After that they all had to start pretending they were over it but still want to use the marketing clout.
>>98008816It's actually remarkably refreshing to see an even half-clever zing.
>>98008851Guess what else is remarkably refreshing.
>>98007413>My fucking players wanted 5e so we're playing Spelljammer in it.I'm definitely not a fan of the 5e Spelljammer stuff.I flipped through it and just hard NOPED after only like twenty pages.
Tourists passing by: reminder that this is a thread created by the BrOSR and for the BrOSR. The real OSR thread where you can have serious discussions is here:>>98004530>>98004530>>98004530
>>98008945Quick reminder that this is a very butthurt troll desperate for attention, continue to ignore him, and also make sure to look up and see some of his desperation in action.
>>98008944Even 5e players are making fun of it.When they're not shitting themselves over the Hadozee.
>>98008452>ubereats delivery to your mom's house
>>98008984Needed more purple elves and spider moon.
>>98008984What's not to love?
>>98008972Shut up, BrOSR troll. Go back to twitter with your chud friends
>>98008674In my day we embraced the jank, you kids and your rap music and your first decades..
>>98008945>Tourists passing by: reminder that this is a thread created by the BrOSR and for the BrOSR. The real OSR thread where you can have serious discussions is here:>>>98004530>>>98004530>>>98004530Correct. Please ignore the BrOSR trolls.
>>98008972Kek, look at this seethingThe BrOSRs have really buckbroken you, huh, Fishfag?
>>98009064Please don't feed the BrOSR trolls. See you on the real osrg thread, here:>>98004530>>98004530>>98004530
>>98008972>look up and see some of his desperation in actionI've looked up and you're right. He's very desperate. He's having a meltdown. He's afraid. We're winning.
>>98009023This almost looks like a parody of 5e, like you put monkeys through a Gayify-me filter.Also, how is that guy supposed to put on those pants when he's got skin flaps attached to his ankles?
>>98009111Shut up, BrOSR troll.
>>98009124Hahaha you're really upset, fishfag.
>>98009023It was the write up IIRC. The SJ one said they were former slaves, uplifted by Thier enslavers and forced to use the tools if the enslavers to uplift others of Thier kind.This was not the 2e background or even the unearthed Arcana background. It was a bad call.
>>98009136You can stay here in your containment thread, BrOSR troll. Real Anons know to post on the real /osrg/ here:>>98004530>>98004530>>98004530
>>98009139It's kinda funny that someone probably got fired over that.Work hard, suck so much dick, all just to land your dream job at WotC, and your empowered monkeys empowering other monkeys fantasy ends your career and probably gets you canceled from working forever.
>>98008944We use 2e cosmology and ship-to-ship combat rules. And I allowed hadozee, plasmoids and autognomes. No astral elves cuz... cosmology. But yeah: it's bad.
>>98009199>ship-to-ship combat rulesIt certainly does.
>>98009216I ignored most of Spelljammer lore the one time I ran the game and instead turned it into Outlaw Star and I have zero regrets.
>>98009139Yeah in 2e they're allies of the Elves during the Inhuman Wars. They're just hardworkers who form mercenary clans and make great crews. There's nothing about slavery or what-the-hell-ever 5e did to them. I love spelljammer, and so I got the 5e special edition. And I was just so. fucking. mad. Aside from the good art? It was a god damn travesty. The DMG straight up advises the DM to "just get the ships into contact then use enemy ships as dungeons, lol." MOTHERFUCKER, we are playing space pirates. How do you not include ship-to-ship combat in your fucking game about fucking space pirates!? I have not bought a WotC product since. My anger is not abated. I really badly wanted to like it. Hell I though the new Strahd was rad and I was so excited to see Spelljammer hit a new generation. And then this bullshit. Spelljamming no longer happens in space? Ship to ship combat isn't a thing in a game about pirate ships in space? And the elves get level 1 teleport at will? Hey here's an idea, how about you make Thrikreen universally telepathic instead of speaking in chirps and clicks because no one ever liked Chewbacca or R2D2 or anything. Motherfucking motherfuckers.
>>98009267Then you shoulda paid attention to Spellhjammer lore 'cuz it's Outlaw Star in D&D and you'd have had no regrets.As long as you read the 2e version's Astromundi Cluster.
>>98009286I prefer my aggressive, military-minded, stubborn non-human race with a penchant for hyper-violence to be dinos instead of hippos.
>>98009115>like you put monkeys through a Gayify-me filterslaaayyyyy
>>98009139>Thier
>spelljammer spelljammer spelljammer spelljammerkek, next week it'll be Birthright he pretends to like again I betliterally nothing good at all about this retarded setting
>>98009341I'm not OP. Just a dude running a spelljammer campaign. I get it: you and some other folks from the /osrg/ are in a non-stop flame/troll war. But your belief that anyone posting on 4chan must be involved in your psychotic melodrama is a paranoid delusion.
>>98009362>Just a dude running a spelljammer campaign.No you're not. Literally nobody likes Spelljammer, it's a childish lolrandumb setting that nobody bought even when it came out.
>>98009278>Ship to ship combat isn't a thing in a game about pirate ships in space?To be fair, even low-level 5e adventurers are so stupidly strong on an individual level that a boarding action is probably one of the better ideas. The kind of power adventurers personally wield would probably change up the math on how ships would engage, particularly if there's almost no chance to destroy the opposing ship before they manage to board. The problem with spelljammer ships has always been that they just don't have the kind of firepower they need.To be even more fair, it's dumb and lazy and stupid to omit ship-to-ship combat when that shit is dope as hell.
>>98009322Bro, we got you. But glad you had fun.
>>98009384There's something seriously wrong with that guy's dicks.
>>98009377Your dellusions and projection are just bizarre, anon. Touch grass?>>98009380>To be fair, even low-level 5e adventurers are so stupidly strong on an individual level that a boarding action is probably one of the better ideas.Annoyingly true. But it does work if you meticulously use distance and convert Hull Points as 10 hit points. A balista now does 1d4x10, so it's meaningful again. The other piece is you gotta bring back 2e's rule that attune to a helm strips all spell slots from a pilot from 24 hours after.
>>98009183Yeah. I have no clue how nobody fucking caught that? Why even rewrite them? They were fine as is.
>>98009278I looked at pDFs first and was also pissed. If I had brought that worthless crap I would have been seething with rage. They fucked it up so bad. As you said nice art though.Curse of strahd is indeed fucking great. That one I recommend
>>98009362You will now be fishfag to those osrg trolls
>>98009423Well I don't really know what that means so... ok? I do not care.
Kek, the amount of samefagging is truly insane, it really is >>98008652
>>98009394>>The other piece is you gotta bring back 2e's rule that attune to a helm strips all spell slots from a pilot from 24 hours after.Ya know, with cantrips at lest they are not totally defenseless though. They have lost heavy hitting power but still have something
>>98009430It means they will claim you are the same person as everyone else not thing. If you like 2e anything you are this one guy. They will claim you and I are the same person
>>98009443We just had this argument last session. Nope: no cantrips either. The whole point of the rule is "casters can't cast for 24 hours." I'm not buying it. Wanna pilot? You aren't using magic until you take a day off.
>>98009454k. When I say "I don't care," I don't mean "i'm performing my disdain." I mean "I don't care."
>>98009455I am with your players on this one. By the rules they don't count as spells and do not take up spell slots.But hey your the GM, do your call in your game.
>>98009473I mean realistically Cantrips are equivalent to "unlimited 1st level spells" in 2e. Following the spirit of "we're using 2e's rules" has gotta mean "you don't get those either." Cantrip IS a 1st level spell, in 2e, which you didn't get for 24 hours. Sorry... yeah: we literally just had this argument Sunday and it got a little heated.
>>98009443>>98009455>>98009473This organic conversation is so insightful! This will make me a better DM.
>>98009500Glad to help, anon.
>>98009396In the grand scheme of things, it's not that bad. In a world where a monkey could just be a monkey, no one would think twice about it.It's too bad it's not that world. I remember a pitch meeting many, many years ago where my team had to design two fictional football teams, and we had a really good thing going until one guy said we probably couldn't use a monkey as one of the team mascots. A few guys fought for the monkey idea, but in almost immediate hindsight it was definitely the right move to just shift gears. The Montreal (or wherever it was) Monkeys sound cute until you've got a bunch of black athletes running around while the announcer screams "Look at those monkeys run!"I almost feel bad for the Hadozee guy. He shouldn't have changed the lore because it was fine as it was, but I want to believe there's still someone in this current age who's just so beautifully innocent that he could take a bunch of deck apes and make them ex-slaves and that would just be that.
>>98009462Of course you don't. That's why you have to announce it repeatedly.
>>98009482I can see it getting heated as we and 5e handle them differently. Under 5e they sent spells, they are more like instead abilities. They work off a whole other system than spellcasting. they even scale differently then spells.It's just one of those things that use the same names, but are very different things between editions
>>98009555I said it once and then clarified my meaning, anon. That's a pretty normal-ass amount of talking like a human being. Frankly, if you had half an IQ, you'd be able to tell from the vastly different syntax that there are at least 3 other initerlocutors besides yourself, in this conversation.
>>98009550Oh boy, they monkey thing would have been so fucking bad. Just ouch.>>but I want to believe there's still someone in this current age who's just so beautifully innocent that he could take a bunch of deck apes and make them ex-slaves and that would just be that.It could be that or it could be someone who is a bit autistic and just didn't see the things how everyone else does. That is far more common than folks like to admit
>>98009572Link all the posts in this thread you think are me based on my vastly different syntax. If you care.
>>98009585>If you care.I don't :)
>>98009550>>98009580This is a very organic monkey. It will make me a better anecdote!
>>98009098This is a BrOSR thread, tough luck!
Sorry guys, but this is an OSR thread, so you're going to have to take your off-topic spellyammering somewhere else, such as to a 2e thread, as 2e is not OSR and doesn't belong in this thread.
>>98009139This post is off-topic, for example.
>>98009482Not on the can trip, but what ship does your crew have?
>>98009183As is this one.
>>98009199As well as this.
>>98009216So is this.
>>98009267And this one too.
>>98009278And this. Also, I'm going to have to ask you not to bring up 5e either, as, althought it was inspired by the OSR movement and so much closer to OSR than 2e is, it still isn't actually an OSR game and doesn't belong here, in the OSR thread.
>>98009286This is also off-topic.
>>98009325This one is on-topic, though.
>>98009362This is off-topic as well.
>>98009455I personally tend to call things in the player's favor on these sort of things, largely because of the question of how much is an argument worth. On one side, the "strip a caster of ALL spells" is a pretty nasty side-effect in 5e where the expectation is that even drained of all other abilities they still have a small package that they can always rely on having. The reason they always have those abilities to begin with is because having more options makes the game more fun. The All-spell slot drain already kills any big plans for high stakes combat, but losing the cantrips as well is taking away something that, well, as coddling as it sounds, they might actually be entitled to. Cantrips are abilities that drain virtually no power at all. Just shoot Ray's of Frosts at the sun every six seconds until it freezes. MP-wise, they cost 0, so even with 0 MP n the tank someone should still be able to cast them.On the other side, it definitely makes the cost more interesting and impactful, and may be (arguably) more lore-accurate. The ultimate question though is if that's worth the players becoming disgruntled because having to take a day of rest already feels mostly like an annoyance and losing cantrips makes it extra annoying. There's ways to make it more than just "you lose a day being mostly useless" and to help the players explore their powerless state or to really hit home the cost they're paying, but I'm not really sure if anyone's interested in that side of things.Like the other guy said, you do you, but I hope there's something bigger behind it than just "It sucks for you but that's just the way things are."
>>98009380And this one. Incidentally, there are solid ship-to-ship combat rules in OD&D, so if you simply played an OSR edition instead of a castrated one, you wouldn't have this problem.
>>98009384This is not old-school art.
>>980093942e is not an OSR game, sorry, so it doesn't belong here in the OSR thread. Take it elsewhere.
>>98009396Editing in 5e books is, needless to say, entirely outside the scope of this thread. Try /5eg/.
>>98009723I am the other poster you mentioned here. You have well articulated arguments here that put it far better than I did.
>>98009411Again, 5e modules are obviously off-topic.
Ah the European troll is awake
>>98009443Cantrips do not exist in any old-school game. As such, take this conversation elsewhere.
>>98009455Again, off-topic.
>>98009473By the rules, cantrips do not exist. If you want to discuss them, go to another, more relevant thread, or start a new thread about them especially.
>>98009482Sorry, but cantrips are not part of this thread's topic. Please discuss them elsewhere.
>>98009550Albeit technically a traditional game, football is entirely outside the scope of this whole board, and is to be discussed on /sp/.Also, we don't use the term monkey here, we call them niggers.
>>98009565Again, 5e is off-topic.
>>98009580Deck apes are a subject for /int/.
>>98009670Spelljammer is off-topic, as it's not an old-school setting. Please refrain from discussing it in this OSR thread.
>>980097235e is off-topic as noted, since it's not OSR. Try /5eg/.
>>98009740No he doesn't. It's just off-topic nonsense.
Well guys we got some good convo on this one. Now the night shit trolls are here. Good luck everyone
>>98009746Incorrect. You are the troll, since you insist on forcing non-OSR topics into an OSR thread.
>>98009774>Well guys we got some good convo on this one.No you didn't.
>>98008697BrOSR will always triumph. It's simply a law of nature.
>>98008846This is true unfortunately. Many bandwagoners hopped on already around 2010-2011.
>>98008444Very true. They're not actually OSR, however.
>>98008424Overflowing tables are less good than thick dungeon walls.
>>98009778I can't tell if you're fishfag or /osrg/fag. This, incidentally was what I was mocking >>98008085A few hours ago.
>>98008396This was an insightful comment. Very nice.
>>98009774I think the secret really is just to ignore them. They really did try their worst and all it did was make them look pretty ridiculous, I think I might actually screenshot parts of this thread to show other people what happens if you just ignore these trolls and how furious they get if you just keep on trucking and just have fun doing what we came here to do anyway.
>>98009800Both the osrg troll and anti osrg trolls call each other fishfag and both troll. It's hard to tell the two groups apart at times
>>98008292Very organic analysis of Fishfag's post.
>>98008275Kek, his face is tiny
>>98008262This was a poor roll.
>>98009808You didn't actually do anything and only came here to troll by talking about non-OSR games in an OSR thread. This organically made you look ridiculous.
>>98009809There are no /osrg/ trolls, the only troll is Fishfag who keeps samefagging about non-OSR games in OSR threads.
>>98009774>we
Aaaand that's bump limit. In conclusion, 2e is not old-school.
>>98007189No, there you only get to either be butthurt 2e is OSR or cry about someone who said something mean about a fishing story.
>>98009838I think there might need to be some sort of split.One thread where we talk shit about the trolls and call out what they're doing, another thread just used to discuss games, and both featuring no direct replies to any of the trolls because they're definitely going to shitpost in a fury in both because that's all they can do at this point.
>>98009849Someone already had that idea.>>97964813
>>98009856The osrg trolls hated the throwdown threads
>>98009849We been splitting threads for a some time now and it not been helping.
>>98009849>>98009856>>98009859At this moment, we estimate that you have received 0.2% of your scheduled comeuppance. Please continue to writhe impotently and flail in helpless fury, as without your cooperation, we cannot deliver the remaining 99.8% of comeuppance outstanding to your account.
>>98009859I mean, they tried in there for a while, but it really seems like they realized they just constantly lose if they try to argue so they're really just going for a "shitpost any OSR discussion to death" approach until they make their stunted version of the /osrg/ the only choice.
>>98009278>Hey here's an idea, how about you make Thrikreen universally telepathic instead of speaking in chirps and clicksIt sounds like the designers played with some shit players and carried some scars with them.
>>98009885Yeah, they get more aggressive the more conversation that happens. They tried do damned hard to kill it here and failed
>>98009923Looking up through it, it's actually kind of an amazing thread, because you can see the troll going through different stages of grief, trying out every trick he had to try and get people to pay attention to him.There's even a few really, really sad posts where it seems like he's genuinely trying to get involved in the discussion and get his own opinion heard, bless his little heart.
>>98009947There are at lest 3 to 4 of em, not including the new one that started posting after 11 pm EST. They were getting really annoyed everyone mostly ignored them and talked around them.We had done good spell hammer and DS conversation
>>98009826Does seem like it at this point.
Lol, the /osrg/ troll is still trying even after realizing he got played.
>>98009592Sure you don't princess.
>>98007781>>98007792Or maybe you been talking to more than one person and not everyone likes the same 2e stuff.
>>98010060That troll hates 2e settings and does not get why some settings have such a due hard fan base it's still alive 30 years after TSR died. These troll cliam every not them is one poster
>>98008698If you were not a retarded nogames you may understand.
>>98010079Last for 2e is not OSR
>>98010473Nobody cares about your autism.
>>98010503Rich coming from fishfag, an actual clinical autist.2e is not OSR.
>>98010524Nobody cares what your definition is.
>>98010548You mother doesn't care for the fact that you're alive and every evening she prays to god that you'll die in your sleep, fishnigger.
>>98010074Of course there's no diehard fan base for settings that nobody ever played or liked in the first place, autist. You see anybody saying anything about Forgotten Realms? Or even Planescape, whoch does have a diehard fanbase even though it sucks. No, it's your fixation on the dead, failed settings that gives you away.
>>98010503You evidently care a lot – enough to camp the thread that just archived, lmaoLast for 2e is not OSR.
>>98010663Nobody but you cares about your personal definition.
>>98010503>posts "nobody cares" in a bunch of threads all at onceYou evidently care a whole lot, lmaoAre you crying, Fishfag? Seething? Malding? Dilating?>>98010548Funny, since that's the one that actually counts and that the OSR General uses by common consensus. Get mad, stay mad.>>98010797>noabody currrrrrrYeah we can tell how little you care, kekAssblasted to the max
>>98009670A Dragonfly
>>98009723>The reason they always have those abilities to begin with is because having more options makes the game more fun.I find a flaw in your reasoning. I do not think that being able to do more is always more fun all the time. I don't think non-stop power tripping is all that fun. I think it's dull. I think D&D becoming something that contains no real challenge, that players assumed to be able to do anything they want, all the time, makes it bland and boring. I think learning to work creatively within limitations can be fun and rewarding. I think limitations like "better figure out how to time your arrivals so you can rest for a day, or rely on something other than casters" is fun.
>>98010827Nobody cares, and stop projecting.
>>98010937FISHOFAGGO WA ASSOMANGURU DESU KA?
>>98010942...what's the point of this?
>>98010947>He doesn't knowFishfag plebbit tourist confirmed.
>>98010949No seriously, what's the point?You're so down the rabbit hole you're posting whatever that is. For what? To defend some personal take on a roleplaying game? To feel better about yourself by imagining someone get mad over posts online? What are you doing with yourself to end up here posting that?You don't even enjoy talking about the game you supposedly like, you just want to try and make people upset because they enjoy a game you don't like. What are you doing? You're an adult doing this. What would people you care about think of this? People you know?
>>98010942>FISHOFAGGO WA ASSOMANGURU DESU KA?>>98010972HAI, FISHOFAGGO DAI ASSOMANGURU DESU
>>98010972>imagining someone get madYou write singularly long posts for someone who doesn't care.
>>98010980What is the point of all of this?
>>98010989>He doesn't knowFishfag plebbit tourist confirmed.
>>98010988Honestly it is confusing.
>>98010972Eh. At least he's posting gifs of dancing anime girls. I like those.
>>98010998>>98011035NANI?HAI ANIME NO GAARU KAWAII SHIKASHI FISHOFAGGO DAI ASSOMNAGURU SABBOHAYUMAN
>>98011057I dunno what that means but I enjoy the image, thanks.
Fishfag's latest OSR totally-not-a-general was deleted by the jannies: >>98010378Another triumph for the unstoppable BrOSR
>>98010972>because they enjoy a game you don't likeNo, nobody cares what you like. Just stop calling it OSR, and stop making these fake OSR threads, and you'll be fine instantly. Post a Spelljammer thread. Don't say some shit about 2e being old.school in it. Don't seethe about /osrg/ in the OP. You'll be able to talk about Spelljammer all you want.
>>98011108Sorry anon, but you're confused. The OP you're angry at isn't the guy who brought up Spelljammer. That's me :)
>>98011082That's great, about time. Thanks, mods! I guess the only thing left to say is: Last for 2e is not OSR.
>>98011127No.
>>98010920Ah sweet, I always liked that one the art was fun. It's a good starter ship
Last for 2e is not OSR.
>>98010473That reply has nothing to do with you being assblasted about 2e being OSR
AD&D isi a single game. There's no logically coherent argument to make that 1e can "count" and 2e does not. It is the same game.
>>98012088Last for 2e is not OSR
>>98012151I don't care that much since "OSR" is pretty stupid. But so is your claim.
Last for 2e is not OSR
>>98012749Nobody cares about your personal definition.
Last for 2e is not OSR and fishfag has diarrhea-adapted gills.
>>980150562e is still OSR no matter how much you cry about the fish in your ass.
>>98015206You might as well let him have the last word, it's not like it changes the truth.He's just this incredibly childish retard; let him be childish.
>>98015354>Fishfag is not an insanely childish turbo-autistYou do understand all these things are only done because they consistently, effectively provoke you, right?
>>98015206It's not OSR You are an ESL ditch shitter
>>98015354>Your retarded posts>Truth.Pick one, faglord>>98015527No u and your stupid face, retard.
>>98015443Your retarded posts are not OSR.
>>980155832e is OSR though.
>>98016023Yes, you got it now.
>>98015578Wow, what well-reasoned, socially-adjusted replies!Its seriously wild how you always reply with with peepeepoopoo responses.
Last for 2e is not OSR and fishfag lives in a diarrhea ditch in Bangalore.
