So recently I was searching for optimistic "punks" similars to "Solarpunk" (I know the suffix is being used incorrectly) and by coincidence I found this>robot Buddhist monk>name is 'Gabi', means "Buddha's mercy" Honestly, it's pretty wholesome (the proto-Omnissiah is Buddhist? Who would have thought?).So, is there something like the title or, at least, similar?The last punk I remember that was so fresh and cool was "Silkpunk", also known as "Bamboopunk" by Ken Liu in his book 'Grace of the Kings' (you should check it, it's Kino; the best part is Ken Liu is so "autistic" that his punk actually works).
>>98012971>not cybermonkDelete your thread and do it over, OP.
>>98012971Traditional games?
The use of the -punk suffix for aesthetics rather than countercultural (sub)genres remains a sad blight on the evolution of the English language. The nature of such countercultures mapped to Buddhism probably works best with its advent pushing back on Hinduism, given the way public opinion on Indians has gone the past decade, but the period of Japan's militant sohei actively fighting to remove the class system might also work even if the degree of organization strains the meaning of "punk".To be optimistic yet still "punk", you need to carefully think through how "The Man" the counterculture acts against is clearly being taken down, or how you manage a "Permanent Revolution" without the utter insanity of the Communists that term comes from. Buddhism actually works remarkably well for this because the standard of "And Then The Punks Died" tragedies can neatly replace their endings with escaping Samsara or reincarnating outside "The Man's" reach so even when "he" stops them the punks can still get their personal victory.
>>98012971That's just regular shit. Try actual violence.
>>98013276Interesting elaboration, but who exactly is "The Man"? And why are you mention commies? What have they to do with this?(Fascists were also about "Permanent Revolution", but renamed as "Permanent Purification Warfare".)>>98013285This pic goes hard. >>98013249>cybermonkIt's a very reductive name, 'Buddhapunk' is more expansive (North Indian, Bhutanese, Tibetan, Burmese, Mongol, Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Vietnamese, Thai civilizations).
>>98016595He was saying Cybermonk is a better name because it’s a play on Cyberpunk. Monkpunk…
>>98013276Wouldn't 'the man' in a Buddhism setting being the celestial court of heaven, or even Buddha himself?In that case that story has already been done.
12 years ago I was traversing the Bear Tooth mountains in Montana and I reached a rest spot and what did I find? A dozen orange and yellow robed Buddhist monks. It appeared that I had chosen the same day as them to scale the mountain. What a fun trip.
>>98012971https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eimgRedLkkU
>>98016595Because marxist retards are everywhere, and the subject is revolutionary.He may well ask why you mentioned Nazis.
>>98012971https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1GO-93Nt3creminds me of the Akira fan trailer
>>98012971Battlestar Galactica universe basically had deeply believing monotheistic robots that wanted to wipe out pagan humanity.Just swap them with Buddist robots on the quest to reach electronic nirvana, and you get it.
>>98016961I once saw a bunch of orange robed Buddhist monks outside of an Applebees.
>>98016595>'Buddhapunk' is more expansiveIt's also more retarded and does not communicate any coherent ideas.
I can't tell exactly what you're looking for. Buddhists as a "punk" role (fighting the powers that be)? Or buddhism in technology (cybermonk, pic rel)?There's a cool book called Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny that combines both essentially. The initial premise of the book is people that call themselves Hindu gods have taken control over reincarnation, so Mahasamatman (aka Sam, aka Buddha) exits Nirvana to teach Buddhism to the masses and overthrow these people. it turns out they're on a space ship and the reincarnation engine transfers electrical brain waves or something.
>>98016595>Interesting elaboration, but who exactly is "The Man"?In the general case of "punk" subculture, "The Man" is a byword for authority figures. For Buddhism-flavored punk... You probably would need to lean on Chinese Heavenly Bureaucracy some to have anyone "in charge" of reincarnation, the Hindu conceptualization of relevant concepts seems to be that they Just Are without really having anything behind them.>And why are you mention commies? What have they to do with this?It's just that their jargon is what comes to mind for "continuously overthrowing the prevailing social norms".>>98016945...Still not quite, given Sun Wukong's grand fuckery is painted as "youthful indiscretion" of a sort rather than a just rebellion.
>>98013249/thread
A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.... I had a sci-fi setting in which a revived, or rather reinvented Greco-Buddhism was the next thing to a state religion, the plot twist is that I did it all on /slop/.But I would never call this setting Buddhapunk, or even cyberpunk, though there are definitely easily recognizable cyberpunk elements like transhumanism and a gross rich-poor divide, and never made it the focus of the setting.For those who care and dare to read further:>>95894173>>95719790>>95639537Pic related is the main villainess modeling gigacorp-made luxury goods in front of the Lotus Stūpa from the Royal Capital.
>>98017661>revived, or rather reinvented Greco-BuddhismNigga aint heard of Pyrrhonism
>>98017719>the great synthesis of ancient Greek thought, taking freely from the presocratic, stoic and skeptic schools, as well as later Hellenistic mystics and philosophers, and the Vajrayana Buddhist traditions presented with an injection of Chinese Mahayana eclecticism, especially from Chan/Zen schools
>>98012971I remember one of the Dune books was big on a fictitious religion of Zensunni (presumably an amalgamation of Zen Buddhism and Sunni Islam) which was neat.
>>98013276Why would "punk" be about counterculture? It never was in cyberpunk, where low-lives find illicit ways to get rich, rather than change anything. Which is itself inherently optimistic.
>>98012971There is a move called "the creator" with this aesthetic
>>98017856>why would punk be about counterculture
>>98017893Repeating the question doesn't answer it, retard.
>>98017856The punk ethos is primarily made up of beliefs such as non-conformity, anti-authoritarianism, anti-corporatocracy, a do-it-yourself ethic, anti-consumerist, anti-corporate greed, direct action, and not "selling out".
>>98017088That doesn't count. Train until you are able to pull your entire body's weight up 5ft using one hand. You disgust me.
>>98016965Because nazis are "great-grandsons of Marx",>Karl Marx - scientific socialism >Giovanni Gentile - marxism adapted to Italy >Eduard Bernstein - marxism adapted to the 2nd Reich >Benito Mussolini - disciple of Gentile >Adolf Hitler - disciple of Bernstein and Mussolini
>>98017423Thanks, anon.>>98017176>>98017661Thanks anons, pretty cool ideas, also>A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.... Right now I was checking about Old Republic / Legends stuff, and man, that era has big "Techno-Greco-Buddhist" vibes. Basically the mainstream Star Wars (films, no matter the trilogy, and shows) is settled in the lamest era of all the franchise.>>98017719>PyrrhonismWell, I guess I have been a "pyrrhoist" all this time without knowing it. Thanks, anon, another concept I learned today.>>98017880Checked it, it was pure slop.
>>98016595>It's a very reductive name, 'Buddhapunk' is more expansivefartsmeller, it's Cybermonk.
>>98017908>missing the point this hard
Ok, obviously no one really wants the marvel set. However, what could be a rabbits foot (inverse monkey paw) in the set for you? Character? Mechanic? Total kike death? What in this set could make you go "wow, that turned out better than expected"?
>>98017176They weren’t on a spaceship, they had colonized a planet. Using Hinduism & ancient India as blueprints, the ship’s crew had set themselves up as gods by controlling the cycle of reincarnation and using advanced technology while keeping the colonists’ descendants living in basically the medieval era.
>>98018808Woops wrong thread lol
>>98018808Wrong thread retard
>>98018810I'll take your word for it. Read the book 20 years ago over the course of two days in a public library.
>>98017917None of which is relevant to its use in "Cyberpunk", where it refers to young, violent criminals rather than any particular "ethos". That is, the sort of low-life referred to when the genre is summarised as "high tech, low life".
>>98012971Check out a film called "The Creator" from 2023. It's not good, I can tell you right away, but it's basically cyberpunk with sapient robots in South East Asia.
>>98019187Hear me out retard-kunTake a punkAnd make them proficient with technology in a futuristic settingThat's the fucking origin of cyberpunk.
>>98016595>buddhapunk>only cultures that have buddhism incorporated into them are included>more expansive>cybermonk>all cultures that have spiritual traditions have monks either by name or by equivalent function including buddhism, hinduism, christianity, islam, etc are included, which is almost fucking all of them>very reductiveDid you fail kindergarten math?
>>98012971>muh optimistic punk!"-punk" is inherently cynical because Punk is a self-defeating, materialistic identity that is beholden to and worshipping of the very corporations it claims to hate And seek to dismantle. You can't have "buddhapunk" because you'd have to be able to unburden yourself from the very earthly, consumerist desires that define Punk. Case and point, your only other example of an "optimistpunk" is solarpunk, whose sum total is some vibes based tumblr art boards and a fucking yogurt commercial from a megacorporation caught using slave labor.Judging by your explanation of "Buddhism but with robbits" you're looking for a term closer to cyberbuddhism than buddhapunk, which is still pretty antithetical to Buddhism but at least you can play with that contradiction unlike with Punk.
>>98012971This is the only thing that allow to call itself "Solarpunk" in my eyes. https://youtube.com/shorts/_7Wklo6B_so?si=w5ZW2HuH11XG7N3L
>>98012971My Korean Buddhist colleagues seem to believe this is basically just a publicity stunt (especially since robots can't have beliefs or faith because they're not alive).Ironically this makes it the ultimate cynical cyberpunk move.
>>98022259As an addendum:Cybermonk is 100% a better name and OP is a faggot
>>98012971The setting of Rain World is this, though it's all in the backstory. All living beings in the setting are trapped in a cycle of rebirth. A previous civilization learned to free themselves from the cycle by shedding 'the five natural urges', but this was too difficult to scale up. Later they found a substance that could do the same thing on easy mode, so the entire civilization collectively comitted nirvana. They left behind giant AIs to figure out how to free all other living things, which failed miserably and caused an ecological catastrophe. The plot of the game is one animal inadvertently going on a journey to escape the cycle of being eaten by lizards over and over.
>>98022435Wow, that's a really cool plot. It's pretty similar to Scorn's one (if you remove all the body horror and unnecessary cruelty).
