Post and talk about That Guys you've dealt withI'll start>So we were about 3 or 4 sessions in. My heroes had just finished the first quest in what I had intended to be a string of quests, and defeated their first boss.>This boss, however, was through a series of caves. My players did not leave any way to find their path back through the caves though, and there was no secret way out through the boss room.>So one player says "Alright. We should leave. Do I remember how to get out of this goddamn cave?">I have him roll a History check. He got an 18. So I allowed them to navigate the cave with ease. (We were on Roll 20 so I asked if he wanted to explore the remainder of the cave or just leave. They opted to just leave so I just moved them to the cave entryway)>One player then said "You shouldn't have made him do a History check. Should have been Survival">I argued that it would be history as he was trying to recall information, not follow any sort of track back.>The player who rolled also said his Survival skill was the same as his History so the roll would have been the same.>Still, the player persisted. Continuing to argue.>The rolling player looked up the definition of "History" as pertaining to D&D and it more or less says it's a recollection of information.>The "that guy" then hung up in Discord and didn't talk to us for a week. We never played that campaign again because I decided he was out, and he had more or less spoiled the mood of the campaign.
>>98014755>dm do i remember how to cure this disease? Im rolling history to recall informationYou're retarded and he was right, he should have referenced the example for a survival check and the perfect memory feat You're also retarded for not just saying>maybe, and we'll check later, but for now its thisWhich solves 100% of player/gm rules disputes
>>98014755I'm the second to last. I have autism that severely affects my executive functioning so doing even the most basic mathematical tasks can cause me a lot of trouble. I try to avoid people noticing and I try my best to be a really good player otherwise.
>>98014755You are both retards, it ahould have been Geography
>>98014755You both suck. >>98015007 is right.>>980155085e D&D doesn't have a geography skill.
>>98014755That would require from this place to- not being overrun by bots- real posters playing games- said posters giving a flying fuck about another inane spam threadIn other words - go fuck yourself
>>98014755>Be Me>Be playing in a Fallout GURPS campaign>Be playing a survivalist scout/sniper type of character>Party gets an anonymous transmission about a cache of weapons and possible pre-war tech that our former Enclave scientist character (played by That Guy) really wants>Obvious trap is obvious, as our party has made several enemies amongst Raider and Brotherhood of Steel factions already>Scientist REALLY wants this tech though>We agree that my character will shadow the party at a distance to break off and get help if this does end up being a trap (as the NCR owes us favors)>We all discuss and agree to this plan in-character>Obvious trap ends up being a trap and the party are ambushed and taken prisoner>I break off to get a rescue crew LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT>That Guy starts bitching about how I'm "abandoning" the party and how everyone might as well roll up new characters right now. Full doomer mode.>Doesn't even try to escape despite being given several chances to (lazy guards, a hackable cell door, etc.) instead just works himself into an autistic shitfit about why snipers, stealth, and basically anything my character can do is "broken" and how "that archetype is cancer in every system ever".>One of the other players escapes her cell and starts making plans on how to sabotage these Brotherhood forces so that the rescue goes easier when I arrive with NCR support.>That Guy bitches that she's wasting her time because this is "an obviously scripted loss">Party eventually gets rescued>That Guy bitches about how he was "railroaded" the entire time and the drops out of the game.Unironically one of the worst cases of self-sabotage I have ever experienced.
>>98014755>>98016630Got a similar self-sabotaging player experience:>Be playing Lancer (Yes, I know the author is retarded and his setting is plebbit /pol/shit. The players were uncomprehending normies though.)>One of the other players decides to play a small fragile teleportation-focused mech whose whole deal is Big Brain plays that involve moving allies and enemies around with said teleportation.>Despite being fragile, he puts all his points into stats other than Hull (which woukd improve his HP and make him less fragile).>Spends the whole campaign complaining about how he dies too easily, does less damage than the party member who spec'd into a tricked out assault mech with big fuckoff rocket launchers, and how the game's rules are garbage.>Still refuses to change his build or his mech though even though re-specs after a mission are literally baked into the system and something players are encouraged to do.
>>98016721I could see argument that investing in Systems and Agility still being better for specializing in a support build like that.But you're gonna get hit eventually. Invest a few points in Hull.
>>98016812Man I fucked up the grammar here. I gotta stop posting before I've had breakfast. Whatever you get the idea.
>>98016812Anyone who plays support in any system ever, then complains that they're not as durable as the tank or doing as much damage as the striker, should probably NOT BE PLAYING A FUCKING SUPPORT CLASS.
>>98015007You sound just as retarded. I bet you reek of piss and disappointed
>DM is burnt-out on our D&D campaign, needs a break>One of the players offers to GM a game>Group decides Pugmire sounds like some silly fun>We begin, with our party transparently based on our own pets, gather up in town, off to the dungeon to engage the plot and go fight the bad man>Manor he's holding up in is surrounded by a literal Soulslike Fog-Wall>Boss HP and damage seems to have been scaled with Soulslike in mind, with the key misunderstanding that you do not have the mechanics necessary to simply Git Gud in a PnP game>At least we respawn, but we respawn within the damn fogwall>Third wipe-and-respawn, party is getting sick of this shit>Creative solutions ("Let's lure him out, let's collapse the building, let's start a fire and let his ass cook") keep getting undermined by blatant GM Fiat>Can't withdraw because lol fogwall>Suddenly we get teleported to an honest-to-Man Space Station>We are greeted by We Have Krystal The Fox At Home>DM provides picture reference, complete with leather titty armor and obligatorily-emphasized cleavage>Blue fox lady claims to predate the uplifting of Dogkind and is a super-cool badass you guys, you should do what she says>Party is in no mood to kowtow>This is somehow a surprise to the GM>Meanwhile, I have a sinking feeling after I notice the artist sig on the picture the GM gave literally lists FurAffinity>Check the name- yup, he commissioned from an artist who almost exclusively does furry smut>Negotiations keep breaking down while I'm learning this horrible truth, decide not to call it out>GM angrily teleports us all back, ends the session>Know the GM is absolutely the sort to take criticism personally, so I "have something come up" and can't make the next session>Find out literally every other player independently did too>Never so much as talk about Pugmire again>Our normal DM exerts heroic willpower and un-burnouts himself to resume running D&D
>>98014755A history check for recall of personal experience is fucking retarded, though. It's a knowledge skill, for fucks sake.
