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I want the new wartrakk for gorkamorka.
Let Chaos idols take this thread!
>TQfor space marines is heretical/the lost primarch geneseedfor chaos is the totally-not-falling-to-chaosfor custards its all the custard things but they're snowflakes by designdeldar is how they're not under vect's boot on their neckeldar is mostly ocdonnutsteel autarch i feelvotann don't have enough lore to formulate snowflake attributes yet
Little Monkey fella
BIGBOUNCYBANSHEEBUTTS
Posting monke as well as the orks I'm starting
>>98016565I love jokaeros because their genius isn't in creativity but in perfect memory and replication of technology, very monkey-like
>>98016542>What are the overused snowflake attributes of homebrew for each 40k army you can think of?Tau - rebelled and don't have Ethereals and castes anymore
I like orks :D
how the ufck
>>98016590They need the production capacity for the Armageddon box.
>>98016542>Are you brave enough to summarize your homebrew and share it with us to be judged?My hive fleet is a splinter of behemoth (I guess behemoth is the most popular to be descended from).It's a small fleet that's intertwined with a twin fleet in a weird interstellar "mating" dance (super special snowflake behaviour).The "mating" is an exchange of material to create and test experimental bioforms which they deploy in battle (everyone and their mother would want their nids to be the special avant garde ones).Amongst them they have hive guards with digger worms ammunitions for city and trench fighting (converted proxies from before they had plastic models, to be cheap), a smaller version of malanthropes (just because I used the then resin tentacles on the tyrant), an overdesigned flying tyrant with brainleech devourer hives (waac build) and tentacles (counts as thoracic weapon, also waac build back then).One creature I never actually built would have been a heavily armoured and hunched tyrant with a custom shotgun that mimics a mantis shrimp's claw, but turned to 11 so the snap would create miniature black holes as ammunition (pure wank, I never actually built it so I wrote it as an experimental biomorph gone wrong, having been observed tearing itself apart together with the enemy when it misfired in a battle against orks).I never imagined it going far through the galaxy as I had a very recurring gaming friend, so I wrote it as being engaged in a prolonged guerrilla war against a penal/mining world my friend would be defending, the tyrant and hive crone would have names for themselves not unlike old one eye and red terror, especially in night fights where they used terror tactics.The focus of the fleet on that world would be to dig out the untapped ecosystem of subterranean microorganisms, which would also give the tyranids bioluminescent patterns on the carapaces, making them spookier in the usually dark and gloomy days and even darker nights.
>>98016596Eventually I shelved the army and stopped playing with it, so I wrote the fleet as assaulting the nearby jokaero moon (the thread picture is a funny coincidence) and being reported by imperials as defeated by the monkeys' ships and orbital artillery with no tyranid vessel making contact with the biomass rich moon.But in truth the imperials misunderstood what was happening: the monkeys weren't shooting at the ships trying to get close to the jokaero's moon because none of them was trying that, instead the ships were scattering in all directions of deep space to deliver their cargos of rare biological samples and successful experiments to other fleets, with the monkeys only managing to take out some of the fleeing ships (does this count as hack writing?).One of the cargo ships accidentally embedded itself in a blackstone structure, haunting the insides and trying to grow a new base of operations while, for the moment, trapped in that hyperdimensional labyrinth, and that's how I explain my current leftovers and eventual starting point should I decide to pick up the army again.
>Vect, being vect, uses his wealth and resources to amass a large horde of valuable metals and minerals >Puts it all on a big ship disguised as a craftworld ship.>Have said ship infiltrate one of biel tanns precious maiden worlds. Give the exodites there said rare metals and minerals as a gift.>Though craftworlders and exodites are suspicious, still accept said gift since nothing was done yet.>IMMEDIATELY raid multiple assets of the leagues of votann still disguised as craftworlders.>Leagues falsely accuse craftworlders of taking their shit.>Craftworlders try to explain that they didn't. While in front of piles of giant diamonds, gold, oil, and silver.>Votann take one look at their spreadsheet and go "oh mmmm yeah we don't care....gib">Biel tann don't take that shit from nobody.>Big battle. maiden world devastated by both sides .>Vect comes in to raid the two weakened sides that remains covering his starting costs with a 25% profit.I call it :"War of the space beard"
>>98016590store owner?
>>98016596Is the nutsack the vital to the blackhole bioweapon's function?
>>98016604Absolutely, slugs are stored in the balls.
>>98016609No wait, my bad, that's the digger launcher, for hive guards, the blackhole thing would have been made from the tyrannofex's acid spray, no ballsacs planned on that one.
>>98016603You'd be surprised how easy it seems to be to get a pre-release box from GW as an "influencer". Sometimes I search new models on twitter to see what people in the real world have done with them and I always come across various (literal) trannies with 2 digit followers and finger painting level paint jobs posting unreleased boxes with "thanks GW for sending me this kit to preview!". I think as long as you actually have a social media account you post on and are shameless enough to keep begging for free shit you can get it.
The last time I was this early to a 40kg Jay replaced Susan.
>>98016620what?
>>98016620>jewtube comments humour
>>98016587Don't steal my bit, git >:D
>>98016620Is this some normalfag joke?
>>98016619This is true, they have favourites too because half of nuGW is those exact same "various (literal) trannies with 2 digit followers and finger painting level paint jobs" people, or that guy who has ended his own hobby so he can Contrast Paint 20 of [new release] in various bright colours, for free!!!
adeptus meganiggas
>>98016628I’ll steal whatever I feel like!
>>98016542I like grots.
Are people actually mad that Ultramarines, the protagonists of the setting, are at Armageddon?
>>98016619this, marketing
>>98016663surely if you believe ultramarines are the protagonists, you’d have ultramarines models to post with your bait.
>>98016542>Are you brave enough to summarize your homebrew and share it with us to be judged?space marines that fell to slaaneshi because of greedthey like attacking shrine worlds and similar targets to take relics/treasures and add them to their scrooge mcduck vault
>>98016663Honestly, it's weirder that the blood angels are there
>>98016670I don't care about playing the protagonist, but I'm also notngoing to get mad when they show up.
>>98016647Its from the web series Best of the Worst, a B-movie critic comedy show.
Which army should I go with, Tau or Votann?
>>98016676then who do you play?
>>98016663You need to be 18 to post here
>>98016675Everyone turned up except the armageddon steel legion strangely
>>98016663Mad? No Extremely boring? Yes
>>98016663no, it's good that for any given warzone there's a mobilisation of lots of chapters, and it makes sense for ultramarines to participate or organise a lot of those because they have a primarch at the helm of the imperium and are the geneseed of the vast majority of successors which would make up the majority of said mobilised troops, even if they are never in the spotlight compare to the important names.
>>98016681tau
>>98016681Tau, same as any dichotomy involving Votann...
>>98016681Tau
>>98016681Tau if you're trans (jacks off to genderbender doujin type)Votann if you're trans (tumblr political activist type)
>>98016681tau have a larger and more variegated range you could also get some votann models and use them in your tau army as demiurg allies, proxying them as fire warriors or breachers
>mega gonebaka
>>98016697That's marines.
>>98016697This my problem, I'm both those types of trans
>>98016663No, they're just too prominent for how boring they are.
>>98016708what marine chapter would you rather have be prominent?
Should I get back into 40k in 11th? I quit in 8th. How much of the first born Marines range is still usable?
>>98016675Not really, the ultramarines are supposed to be part of two active warfronts right now and somehow they can spare marines to send to armageddon
>>98016709marines malevolent
>>98016711None.
>>98016711All of it if you dont play in tournamentsif you do, lmao
>>98016711What models do you got?
>>98016709UM, DA and BA are the trifecta of most important Space Marine chapters. I think they should be featured equally.
>>98016712the ultras retreated from the 4th tyrannic warfront after getting crushed at oghram
>>98016709Minotaurs
>>98016719Templars make the most sense as the single most widespread chapter, as well as the most present on armageddon.
>>98016715I don't play in tournaments but I would I have to find a play group that allows it? I guess I can wait to see the 11th codex it will probably be the 1st or 2nd one to get the update.
>>98016709Minotaurs and Carcharodons only so they can get fucked and reduced to "recovering" chapter strength so they phase out of the community memory
>>98016681Tau have a wider variety and they're easier to paint but you'll be one amongst a million. No game shop is chomping at the bit for another Tau player. Also you are a salt magnet and everyone will sneer at you.Votann have a smaller range and their aesthetic is divisive, to say the least, but I have never met an actual Votann player and if you are a good modeler and painter and actually make them dwarfy you'll be the hottest shit around.
>>98016722They're still in pariah nexus as well
>>980167172 Chaplins w/jump pack2 x 10 Assaults2x 10 Tactical w/Rhino2x 5 Tactical w/Razorback3x Dreads w/Drop Pod3x Landspeeder Typhoon2x 5 Devastator1x Sicaran Tank
>>98016725I have yet to find a group that has said no to me using legends units.They are 100% legal for casual play
>>98016731Minotaurs are the attack dogs of the high lords they have the biggest recovery rate of any chapter lol
>>98016724You're right, BTs can also be included in that group, though they get plenty of attention already.
>>98016743Cool. Can you take a look at my collection here >>98016739 and tell me if I stand a chance at winning games?
>>98016542>Are you brave enough to summarize your homebrew and share it with us to be judged?>TauSmall part of 4th Sphere Expansion, mostly auxiliary cadre which was lost in the warp and then vomited far away in a random place in galaxy. All Ethereals died. They crash landed on a Fedual World full of primitive Humans and abhumans. Despite being low on Tau tech, planet was quickly conquered. However without guidance of true Ethereals, being cut off from Empire, actual Tau being a tiny minority and coupled with Godess T'au'va appearance and colonization of primitive humans and abhumans, entire concept of Greater Good was massively twisted and subverted into a fanatical religion. This "Sept" is now a tiny empire of warmongering, zealous, barbaric Xenos, Mutants, Abhumans and Humans on a violent crusade to spread their faith across the stars with fire and sword>EldarSnow Elf Vikangs basically. Craftworlders who were late and reluctant to escape and take on a Path system. They did it out of necessity to avoid their fate, but they wish they didn't have to. They are particularly racist and xenophobic with many of them becoming Anhrathe who even have their own base on this Craftworld. They are fine with their Commorrite kin and in fact work often with them against lesser species.>Muhreens?csm?Guard?Haven't started those guys yet. Basically marine chapter which was rightfully declared traitors. I did not figure out the reason for excommunication, but they definitely deserved it. It's a band of cruel and ruthless pirates and mercenaries raiding and plundering for their own sake. At this point Marines themselves are a tiny minority actually, mostly commanding forces of traitorous humans, mutants and abhumans, living on a space Tortuga essentially. Lost and the Damned would be the best faction I think for them, but Red Corsairs are good base tooBasically everything GW releases lately is like tailor made for me wtf
So you know the dark aposte has those two little goons that follow him around, what if instead of them being scungy robed dudes they were cute chaos back up dancers?
>>98016747guilliman already has their access codes which is why they didn't really oppose the flush out of old high lords, its not guaranteed that they still have all their privillages
>>98016732I've always wanted an army painted like the robots from Peace Walker, so either Votann or Tau that's probably how I'm gonna paint them
>>98016752I'll allow it
>>98016739That looks good at scoring objectives.
>>98016752sure, why not
>>98016759
>>98016760:D>>98016764oh shit, i forgot those models existed they'll make some great conversion fodder plus i can use them for blood bowl.
>>98016620I stand with Mike against all the smooth brained prequel lovers who are now blaming him for the Disney sequels.Warhammer 40k
If I like painting minis, is that a good indication I should try out real painting as a hobby?
>>98016778noit's completely different
>>98016778yesit's literally the same thing
>>98016778it's very different since there's no textures to guide you, but it's always worth trying out new hobbies.
>>98016778whats not real about painting miniatures?
>>98016778maybesome things are similar
>>98016778maybeit's kind of similar
>>98016795I don't want to get into a whole semantic argument here with you Chomskyhonk, but you know what I mean
You wouldn't a titan, would you?
>>98016799thicker than a bowl of oatmeal
>>98016749Not that poster but that looks like an extensive collection. Lists made from that will be highly effective at scoring objectives due to its high mobility and distracting the opponent with the drop dreads and land speeders.I would still wait for the core rulebook and marine codex to come out before spending any money.
>>98016764I had no idea games workshop could still produce attractive female scupts.
>>98016778Some skills transfer over, others do not.Brush control is very different for a large canvas, but mixing colours and layering carry over.
>>98016799
Yeah don't do this lmao
>>98016820At least you can still get the Green Knight. Imagine how many OOP minis we have lost over the years.
>>98016820do what
>>98016820lol, reminds of the retard that set his FW resin on fire because he wanted to remove the release agant of quicker and heard it was oil based.
>>98016778Painting minis is like a coloring book - you are given a template and you do your best to fill it with color. There's an amount of creativity and artistry involved but 90% it's just a matter of knowledge of how you should proceed and a bit of technical execution.
>>98016820how do you end up melting minis on accident?
>>98016770>make some great conversion fodderI think those models are pretty much done if you want back up dancers, what would you convert besides maybe adding some armour.
>>98016827I know people who swear by painting the models while the parts are still on the sprue. Is this just autism or is there a benefit to doing it?
>>98016820what was he trying to accomplish that led to him melting his minis?
>>98016778yes.
>>98016681both are based
>>98016842Maybe trying to bend them into shape?
>>98016838there's no advantage, you can't clean the mould lines and have to go back to repaint the parts of the bit covered by the sprue connections.painting on the sprue is for people who are too dumb to plan subassemblies.
>>98016711I think the game is in a better state now at the end of 10th than the end of 8th, and there some really promising changes in the pipeline. your firstborn turn over is not great. most of the base sizes havent changed, your>sternguard>vanguard>assault marines>assault marines with jump packs>land raiders>terminators>assault terminatorscan all still be used. you will want to up your base size on your scouts, or add a little spacer on your bases, or just play with chill people that don’t care.your tactical marines are now intercessors, 4 boltguns and your sergeant has most of his old options. it isn’t popular, but you can run triple melta (inferno pistol, meltagun, multimelta) tac squds out of a rhino and it isn’t just terrible. if you have 5 marines with plasma guns, you have hellblasters. you also can just run your old units. old dreadnoughts, devastators, centurions, predators, vindicators, they are still in the codex. some of these aren’t GREAT, but they’re completely playable.
>>98016842I slightly melted a few of my Necron Warriors because I wanted to represent their regeneration abilities.
>>98016835i'd mainly just be doing some greenstuff sculpting to add details, don't judge
>>98016838It's the retarded little brother of painting a model in sections before full assembly. The benefit is easily reaching all the nooks and crannies but the obvious problem is you still need to cut it out of the sprue so you end up with unpainted nubs.
>>98016860I had a feeling it was you but still replied...
>>98016863Very concise and useful response. I always paint after Ive posed the model.
Do these guys actually have anything Lovecraftian to them or are they just Na'vi sallies hunting squid in avatar 2?
>>98016893>anything Lovecraftian to them no
pro acryl have some of the best reds, whites and metallics on the market but my god their dropper lids are so unbelievably shit
>>98016893Their Chapter Master is Callum Murray
>>98016820Is this the most retarded thing a fucking hobbyist can do?
>>98016811Someone over there really likes leggy elves, presumably also worked on Alarielle.
>>98016893They're monster hunters, anon
>>98016913Good lord the thighsIs that how Howling Banshees would look under the suit?
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98016925>PantsNot my Lilith
>>98016913Thicc thighs save lives.
>>98016913>presumably also worked on Alarielle.unlikely, one is for a mainline game, the other is the specialist products
>>98016925Shut it, faggot
>>98016938>doakes.png
>>98016913Now I will like eldars...
>>98016925Dark Eldar got a refresh 10 years ago. That's more than enough for the likes of them.
>>98016681T'au have more stuff, but you can annoy more fa/tg/uys by building Votann. It's why I did it
>>98016936The official paintjob kinda hides it but Alarielle is MEATY, anon.
>>98016952>'
>>98016566
>>98016955trolling is a art
>>98016938you don't belong
>>98016957
>>98016952I like the lore for the Votan but I have to say most of their models are uninspiring. I would go with Tau and spam battlesuits.
>>98016959you mother fucker
>>98016893Dark Angels are the lovecraftian chapter.>keep spoopy secrets and dangerous artifacts from the early days of the imperium>carry the burden of knowledge no one must knpw silently type vibe>fought against some of the more fucked up ayys like rangdan>keep eldritch horrors as assitents never to be questionedUnfortunately that comes up less and it's more about beign obsessed about the fallen all the time
>>98016973
>>98016893feel the closest to an age of sigmar primarisation of the new chapters of primaris>they're slaamanders>but water, or something
>>98016913>>98016954So GW always had the ability to sculpt attractive female faces and give them nice fit bodies. They just choose not to.Why is this so?Or is it partially that the heavy metal paintjob just doesn't really work when trying to convey softer female facial features?
>>98016983
>>98016954I'm not denying that, I'm skeptical it's the same sculptor, as if only one guy could sculpt attractive legs.
>>98016981My theory about the two missing prime marks is that they were also involved in the rangdan xenocides and got wiped out by them and that's why they were covered up.
>>98016973it is a good thing the post-tumblr 30-something fujoids like vivziepop don't know about Quins because they would easily translate to the vomit colour schemes of tumlbr sexymen whose souls are thirsted for by megastan the friendly tranny otherwise.
>>98016987
>>98016990Fucking autocorrect.
Why are all nu40k Primaris chapters shit names like "Krakens of the Spear of the Void Tridents" and a suitable tertiary colour scheme
>>98016987I want to see this twink get amazon pressed by a muscular Sister of Battle with large breasts.
Another Knotley knockout!https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/u0sbzthr/community-painting-getting-sneaky-with-the-spectre-squad/
>>98016978in the push to make votann different from squats GW removed the things that made squats cool and would have made votann cool>bomber jackets on most of the rank and file because exo amour is more common than terminator armour, but still not -that- common>made the top tier guys just little space marines>vehicles are weird nasapunk aesthetic>random dwarf models but rejected the living ancestor>retarded robots instead of cool shit>many of the new models are cooler so the second wave actually mogs the first wave and looks like a different army almost>would not have minded a Land Train mega lord of war that is built from multiple tanks stitched together but GW hated that idea i guess
>>98016997Because all the good easy names and schemes are taken so you get weird shit like orange and teal
>>98016919do you think Brother is the Johnny of the 40k sea shanty cinematic universe and the brother marines of the red corsairs and dark krakens alike sing to their hearts content on every voyage? I'd like to think so.
>>98016991I wish porn was never taken off Tumblr. It was an important containment for their ilk.Nobody cared when Tumblr died. But people freaked out when this site went down.>vomit colour schemesWhy are so much tumblr stuff like that when it comes to colours? I do think the bad bright colour combinations might work for Warhammer 40k Slaaneshi cultist colour schemes if one wants the colours "riotous and eye hurting."
>>98016990you think they died fighting them or were turned
>>98017002>>retarded robots instead of cool shitwhast wrong with robots and what would be more cooler?I dunno have to feel about the ironkin, specifically their relationship with the regular dudes. I kinda feel like the flesh and blood kin should treat them badly (and not as equals) but that kinda feels going against dwarf motifs (because they have respect even for their tools)
>>98016991Thats true!
>>98016999>short lasgunsAre these modified by the painter or are they really out of the box like that? I think the longer lasgun rifles were lengthened so that lascarbines are easier to tell between them and the lasgun by barrel length.I'm such a guardfag that only drab colours work on guard models for me with little exception.Is there any saving me?
>>98017012Well , just based off of the nomenclature the two types of discribed rangdan are "bone eaters" and "nerv eaters". The latter could have infected the lost legions with a mind virus.
>>98016986Humans in Warhammer aren't really supposed go look pretty. Elves and Eldar tend to get far better sculpts for bare female heads.The paint jobs also really don't help since they're meant to look 'basic' and easy.
>>98016999I feel bad for him, GW are taking advantage of a huge simp and not even paying him for it
>>98016999They look sick with the berets. Proper commandos
>>98016981>the secret artifacts:a better gun>the secret knowledge:traitors and teamkilling>the eldritch horror assistants:jawas
>>98016986>Or is it partially that the heavy metal paintjob just doesn't really work when trying to convey softer female facial features?this at least in partI know some of the SoB heads are fine because a guy I used to know played them and his came out looking decent
>>98016986I think most are attractive. Painting skills are what makes them break or not.
>>98017005what
>>98017023>I'm such a guardfag that only drab colours work on guard models for me with little exception.>Is there any saving me?Whats wrong with that? You want to love the vomit inducing bright yellows, purples and reds?
>>98017038PITSLUT
>>98017038That's a third party sculpt.
>>98017014>whast wrong with robots and what would be more cooler?Most of the robots are gay, they should look cooler
>>98017031oh, so you don't know about the enslaved men of iron, inteligent fire, and entropy waves they have locked away.
>>98017028>female streamer you like allows you to take picso f her doing bikini modeling because you're -famous influencer dude- or something>expect to be paidIs same concept
>>98016988There's a specificity to how the legs are sculpted that speaks to a single artist:>feel in a perpetual heeled shoe/ballerina position despite not having heeled shoes or even shoes at all>the structure of the knee is very specific regardless of the scale of the model, when normally shorthands are used for clarity and ease, indicating the artist finds the knee a particular appeal point for the female leg>general structure of the legs is similar, admittedly with greater emphasis of the thigh and buttocks on the cheerleaders but they are of course still there on Alarielle, again pointing to one source who has an ideal for the form they adhere to across their workFurthermore if you look closely you'll realize the cheerleaders are largely a single sculpt, mirrored, with head swaps. That's a really small project, that I could easily see the teams reaching across the aisle for help on to hit a deadline. Especially given the level of quality the FW side of specialist games was operating on at the time, those cheerleaders are a complete anomaly.
>>98017041>Whats wrong with that?Probably nothing, but I hope I don't resemble the archetypal guardfag in all the wrong ways.>You want to love the vomit inducing bright yellows, purples and reds?Only if they're on Slaaneshi cultists in colour schemes meant to hurt the eyes.
>>98017051who would watch a flesh streamer
What do we think about titanic drop pods?
Odds we get a Necron Detachment that buffs Warriors? I love my guys but they're a meme objective squatter unit
>>98017028Doesn't he get to keep the models?
>>98017051what a strange thing to use as a comparison point
>>98017063i do not think
>>98017055>There's a specificity to how the legs are sculpted that speaks to a single artist:No, it's normal anatomy of a normal leg, just competently sculpted to be attractive.
>>98016990one of them is imprisoned under the imperial palace, probably mutated or some shit. Fulgrim remarked one of them was even gayer and more haughty than him and probably got RANGDA'D.
>>98017043Ok?
>>98017057Purple and red is the biblical description of the whore of babylon. I'm not a christian or a jew but even I know that's what it's supposed to represent.
>>98017029berets are cool and operator-coded but I never understood why you see so many images of soldiers with them in the field sneaking around in the woods with a big dark red target with a massive shiny gold silver insignia on it. In 40k it's like sure, rule of cool, but irl? the fug
>>98017067Yeah but he's genuinely given up his own hobby to be an unpaid influencer for GW, painting 20 guys a month in lurid schemes
>>98017011>But people freaked out when this site went down.The problem is that /tg/ literally disappears when this site dies. too many old guys who are like "I WON'T GO TO 4chan clone /tg/" so it's me and one other guy bumpin a 40k thread. So if this website goes down I have nowhere to discuss warhammer online.
>>98017044Oh, you are right, my bad.
>>98017063I like Volcano Lance effect.
>>98017069GW is like a streamer to simp for as it takes money and gives little back, leaving only emptiness.
>>98017078Morathi cloaca...
>>98017063They're dope, I like the idea of the free fall titan drop too but this is pretty sweet as well.
>>98017029
it's like that Cerberus guy who used to be a really good painter, then he did one LGBT model and now all he does is different LGBT marines for thousands of updoots on reddit. No more armies just updoots
>>98017063seems like a cool thing for gw to sell for 100 dollars as a terrain piece to knight players soon enouhg :)
>>98017102is he getting reddit gold at least
>>98016990the most realistic explanation is that the two missing Primarchs is that by the time they were found they had created multi-species space alliances that proved the Emperor's genocidal plan was unnecessary or even counter-productive. That's why all memory of them had toe be erased, because that would have been the greatest thread to the Great Crusade
>>98017078I love Morathi, probably my favorite elf model
>>98017089GW takes money and gives back products, like model kits and novels.Have you just been mailing them cash?
>>98017002>>98017014>>98016978I think a big miss for votann is the fact their too logical and clean looking. The appeal of dwarfs is that they're stubborn, dirty, and worldly, but they also have a strong sense of order and right and wrong.>Keep the nasapunk stuff, but dirty it up. Scrap the whites and neon colors, put in some military greens, grays, and just make the equipment more aged.>Make them more abrasive and actively rude, but still moral.>Bring back honor and grudges. Make them more resistant to change.
>>98017101I always loved the scion berat heads, it's nice to see where the bases came from.
total demon army death ETA in 43min?
>>98017063How do they get the Knight back up?
>>98017114That's also a cool theory.
>>98017079>Purple and red is the biblical description of the whore of babylonI didn't know that.>I'm not a christian or a jew but even I know that's what it's supposed to represent.I identify as a Christian. I'm not a good one, but I get what you mean.Think purple and red will work as a good Emperor's Children paint scheme then?Should the purple and reds be dark or bright or neutral in bright/darkness?
>>98017114Of we ever get any of the lost Primarchs I hope they have an interesting gimmick (Not Female obviously)
>>98017127stop asking questions
OK, I'm going to do a 40k army, and I've narrowed my choice down to three options; Mechanicus, Votann, and TauWhich would y'all go with?
>>98017120i think their default color scheme is also just not very well thought out and doesn't really help to sell the factionside note but even basic warrior has too many details with belts/utilities/knives/little pannels that can be bit disheartening for beginners
>>98017114>only successful when times are goodAfter the devastation of the war with the men of Iron, the former alien allies of humanity turned on us in our time of need. BigE probably remembers that well.
>>98017048So scary and edgy I'm pissing my pants.
>>98017148What bad taste anon, but out of those three I think you will be happier with Tau
>>98017152They really aren't that detailed, a belt with a couple pouches isn't a big ask, and if you do the gloves, pants, and knee pads as all the same cloth it's actually very quick
>>98017127Flyers with cranes.
>>98017154>After the devastation of the war with the men of Iron, the former alien allies of humanity turned on us in our time of needDAOT humanity didn't 'ally' with any aliens, they conquered and subjugated them. Many of the 'invasions' were actually aliens trying to retake their territory from Humans who had waged war on them previously.DAOT Mankind was not a happy friendly Federation like Star Trek, they were corporate warmongers.
>>98017159MoI army when? I dont want mechas or undeads, but actual machines trying to over take the galaxy
>>98017148Admech and Tau are cool.they're kinda on opisite sides of the painting detail spectrum so if you you're starting out tau might be a safer bet if you're self concious about painting.What type of vibe are you feeling with them?
>>98017154Yeah his humans only scheme is going great
>>98017177Better than being slaves to Tau or Chaos.
>>98017180Tau dont have slaves, just allies. For the greater good.
>>98017148I’m a gigantic speciesist. So AdMech. But in all honesty, Votann are poorly represented, and local gaming groups would be glad to have you. The only issue IMO is their models are hit or miss, and they are difficult to paint compared to the others.
>>98017133I would say a deep dark purple with a vibrant red. I'm a goth and thats how I do my eye shadow sometimes. I'd post a picture but Im not going to doxx myself on a Vietnamese Crab Trapping forum.
>>98017175I've done a fair bit of painting as a hobby, I'm not super concerned about the painting as long as it isn't, like, Rubric Marines.For Tau or Votann I think I'd go pretty drab and functional, maybe grey or olive drab for the primary colors. For AdMech I think I'd want more gothy, like black or dark purple robes to offset the shiny metal. And I'd definitely simplify the colors, at least on the basic Skitarii. There's no reason for the fuckin horde guys to have pants different colors from their robes and gold trim on their chest plates, for example.
>>98016778Clueless retards will tell you it's two different things but if you're good at painting you're good at painting. There is no difference.
>>98016981>>98017031>>98017048unfortunately 40k is gay and has super duper incorruptible perfect superhuman custodes and grey knights and super duper duper vaults on Terra where the real juicy shit would be kept, so DAs flawed and fallible regular spess mareen mutated abominations that they are would never be trusted to keep anything too bad, which kind of ruins the premise of their secretkeeping.
>>98017114They were heretics and traitors obviously involved in abominable offenses and the Emperors executioner handed out raw justice.
>>98017204
>>98017148>mechanicusLiterally the most expensive army in the game kek.>votannjust got a big wave of shitkickers who hate Orks, good for armageddon>TauSupposedly getting new battleshuits in 2027
>>98017159whose fucking idea was it to depict them and make a short story from their pov, how dumb are they, they've got marvel-brain over there just no sense of keeping mystery
>>98017195>I'm not super concerned about the painting as long as it isn't, like, Rubric MarinesAdmech are cool, but they do have the "just one more detail" problem where once you finish one bit you notice another part that needs painting, so have a good look at their models to make sure if they won't make you crazy painting them.
>>98017114That is actually the best fantheory. I would not mind a bit if this became canon or if it was hinted that way the whole time and just got confirmed.>female primarch artI need a tall warrior muscle mommy so much it is unreal.I wonder if the artist ever commented on the following he has because of his 40k art. I mean there's an /aco/ 40k thread dedicated to that guy's art and fantasizing about the female primarchs. Must be a subreddit too at this point. Man covered female Guilliman now.Wonder where he'll go from here. Anyways who is the best female primarch of the loyalist side and traitor side?And of those two choices who is better?>>98017189>I would say a deep dark purple with a vibrant red.Thanks!>I'm a goth and thats how I do my eye shadow sometimes.I always liked the industrial gas mask wearing cybergoth look. Always loved gas masks. I just hate that I was never physically attractive enough to pull off the look properly so I never bothered trying to dress up or get any gear.>inb4 lose weightAlready did so I stopped looking like the average guard tournament player. Unfortunately still ugly.I think this is why Henry Cavil's social media posts about him trying to fit in with 40k fans made him worshipped because he basically became an exception to the "ugly 40k nerd" stereotype but the endless worship from Reddit and other social medias probably just reinforced the bad stereotype. Is there a term for this? I am sure this sort of thing has happened before beyond the Warhammer 40k following in many other communities not known for physical beauty.
>>98017177Better than being vassals, slaves, livestock, or worse for all the various aliens that were vanquished during the reconquista. >but humans are currently vassals, slaves, cattle, and worse for their human mastersYes. But not at the expense of the species for the betterment of another.
>>98017195rubix cubes are coll tho
>>98017201Murder curse skipping sos, gk and custards was such a fucking copeout unless "reliably" resist isn't still 100% and they got culled immidiately and passed off as "died to traitors" casualities
>>98017171warhammer 25k
>>98017219A drag queen playing 40k? A unicorn among unicorns.
>>98017180By any reasonable standard for 99.9999% of the Imperium's population it's clearly vastly worse than being a slave to the Tau.No, your HFY larp is not a reasonable standard.
>>98017226>warhammer 25k>pre-unification wars setting>Before emps unleashed his armies to retake TerraWould Necromunda rules work for this? If not what other rules? I don't really want to make a thread about this, but if I have to I'll have a some stuff ready and maybe an unpainted model in case a cheeky wannabe Janny asks for models to be posted.
>>98017218>I need a tall warrior muscle mommy so much it is unreal.The sole idea of female Marines is enough to kill this game, let aside Primarchs
>>98017231A man can die happy even as a slave without ever thinking himself to be one.
When Celestine shows up for a Sisters battle, is she always looking the same way with the same colors, or does she change based on the battle? And are th Geminae Superior with her also faith creations, or just ladies?
>>98017231>Faction that sends Humans to camps specifically to neuter and castrate themShut it, freak, nobody's buying blueberry propaganda.
>>98017227A lot of trans people are autistic nerds. Not that unbelievable.
>>98017226Fuck that this is a Sci-Fi setting, where are the sapient, free willed and violent robots?
>>98017237I should have clarified just the fetish part. I do not want female marines in 40k.Primarchs were already pushing it.But I wonder if the female marine demand would have been as big if it was now if the primarchs were female from the beginning. Maybe it would be worse.I wouldn't know.Has there ever been documentation of someone bringing a coomer printed and painted army to an LGS to see how players react with their reactions documented?
New Guilliman model soon.
>>98017236The Urshites fielded armies 1 billion strong. Necromunda can't handle that scale.
>>98017242But is this talking about the Tau Empire or the Imperium?
>>98017246>He cannot accept he is a slave>But presented with a better choice of freedom and good will he refuses violentlyStockholm sindrome.
>>98017242>>98017246
>>98017256Where is the bear, James? THE BEAR!!!
>>98017219Ace of Clubs tarot card as the banner.
>>98017256about fucking time, he looks stupid
>>98017246shut the fuck up and go back to r*ddit, fecalfaggot
>>98017248Why is the first sentence of that so correct these days all of a sudden? Granted I want to politely minimize contact with them at the LGS as I fear doing something unintentionally pissing them off even if my intentions were not malicious in any capacity. Those ones are conditioned from mistreatment to always assume to the worst and see attacks everywhere it seems so it is better that I just minimize contact with them when I want to play Warhammer 40k at the LGS.
>>98017256They definitely have one, they just held off on selling it until they're ready to launch it at the right time. The question is what are they waiting for?>Lorgar showdown fomo Box>Ultramarines supplement release>Novel tie-ins with a new black library series >Special release with Space Marine 3 where he features
>>98017218>I need a tall warrior muscle mommy so much it is unrealMy brother in Christ we already have them, they're called Howling Banshees.
>>98017171Unfortunately the blacked library decided that the 40k twist for the robot rebellion of the dark age was that the robots were totally justified in rising up and that they weren't evil warmongers except when cornered or corrupted.And to add insult to injury jes goodwin decided that human robots have to look like this, meaning the only hope for a MoI army is an expansion of the votann ironkin into a larger ranger within the leagues.So if you want an army of real killbots you need to do the heavy lifting yourself and convert the shit out of any robot kit you can get your hands on, as well as proxying them as either necrons or nids depending on the rules you want.
So I made a test exodite model, but then realized the entire process would be easier if I was using actual cold one knights whose legs are designed for the specific saddle the elves use. But they're totally out of stock.
>>98017269that wasn't me you half wit
>>98017114I like to imagine this is true for at least one of them, its the best explanation for why they were completely erased
Anons, I ordered the sydonian skibidos. I will fix him, wish me luck.
>>98017231>one race’s effort and resources and manual and intellectual output for the betterment of another race so long as the former can be “comfortable” is just fine. We’re in it for the species boys and girls.
>>98017271
>>98017114One had created a stable and lasting empire with Xenos as equals that had to be destroyedOne had created a stable and lasting culture of using chaos without corruption that had to be destroyed
>>98017124i'm scared bros
>>98017259Better to die for the Emperor as a Human in the Imperium than to live for yourself as cattle under the Tau.
>>98017271Not that poster but Im the drag queen in this image >>98017219. I would say you're being too paranoid. Wha trans people usually want is acceptance for their personality and not their labels. Some are very autistic about pronouns , but i'm not , and i've known several other trans people who are also pretty cool and played dungeons and dragons and warhammer 40k. Im from Toronto Canada and it's one of the last bastions of goth culture in north america. While the mexicans are actually picking up goth culture quite readily so there could be a resurgence.
>>98017257>The Urshites fielded armies 1 billion strong.Even if that statement is true I think GW is giving too much info about the Unification Wars that eventually kills the mystery and appeal of it.Kind of like Half LIfe's 7 hour war where details are nonexistence or smaller than the smallest of crumbs to make sure it is as Hellish sounding but worse than what fans can imagine. But if James workshop held a gun to my head and said I had to write the story of the Unification Wars and I didn't panic and start crying and shitting myself I'd look up the insanity of the Siege of Terra in NuHorus Heresy like allegedly reality warping because of warp and chaos stuff around the Imperial Palace and crank things up to make Terra like a daemon world.For what it is worth did Alan Bligh do a good job creating the Horus Heresy's first proper incarnation with the Black and Red Books?
>>98017283Well can't we worse than Da Vinci flyers
>look at the time>larping startslike a clockwork
>>98017271>Why is the first sentence of that so correct these days all of a sudden?Because the whole thing is escapism for failed men, of course it's going to overlap with circles of failed men engaging in other forms of escapism.
>>98017279when this shit finally comes out it's only going to be like 10min long isn't it?
>>98017294>CattleYou mean ally? Cattle is not a right term here.
>>98017285I didn't say it was 'just fine', I said it was a better deal for the people involved.Not a better deal for the species as a whole, not a better long term strategy for humanity, just a better life for individuals.
>>98017285Stop ban evading.
>>98017301it better be at least 30!
>>98017301>when this shit finally comes outIs it even still being made?
>>98017297I've actually been held at gunpoint. It was like having all of my emotions flush down the toilet and my brain reached a level of pure logic. I talked my way out of the situation. Dont do meth kids.
>>98017114That explanation doesn't work because they had statues on plints in the imperial palace that were pulled down and they were mentioned participating with their legions in the xenocides.If you want to headcanon your wholesome multiracial empires they must have happened after they were found.Being killed or taken over in the xenocides remains the best explanation.
>>98017302>Cattle is not a right term here.That's literally the case. All Tau are second class to the Ethereals, and all auxillaries are second class to the Tau.If the Tau Empire was forced to sacrifice a planet of gue'vesa or suffer huge Tau losses, they wouldn't so much as shed a tear over killing the humans themselves "for the Greater Good".
>>98017308You're not well anon
>>98017296>I would say you're being too paranoid.You're not wrong.Admittedly I didn't have a good first impression of them I think during the coof lockdowns where contact could only be done online.>it's been six yearsThe ones I encountered were mentally ill and it made me skeptical and even outright believing that the "respect" they demanded was harmful to them like I was feeding something bad.That shit's gonna be on my internet history, and I have a feeling that if I go to the LGS to play 40k some of the old me will resurface and that will be when I get the boot. That's primarily why I want to minimize contact.Also lost the right to criticize when I learned that the basic concept is comfort in the body, and I need cosmetic surgery to not be physically hideous that persists even after significant weight loss>Toronto Canada is one of the last bastions of goth culture in North AmericaI don't think it's worth it and I'm probably too old for a Warhammer goth (female) GF as I'm nearing 30.>While the mexicans are actually picking up goth culture quite readily so there could be a resurgence.How would an average LGS' nerd community respond to hot goth girls showing up?>Warhammers (all of them)>MTG>Pokemon Scalpers>Historical players
>>98017326>If the Tau Empire was forced to sacrifice a planet of gue'vesa or suffer huge Tau losses, they wouldn't so much as shed a tear over killing the humansBased. Humans deserve it.
>>98017285Do a favour to the species that unfortunately spawned you and remove yourself from the pool of the living.
>>98017300I'm trans and Im not a failed male. I am very successful in my career working at scotia bank. I'm trans because it's my fetish.
>>98017294Ironic that you say this when the Imperium basically treats most of its citizens as cattle pretty much.
>>98017278They're going to re enter production for the old world, possibly in groups of 10 instead of 5.
>>98017340>I'm trans
>>98017320>I've actually been held at gunpoint.Country? And what 40k army do you play?>It was like having all of my emotions flush down the toilet and my brain reached a level of pure logicThat is weird. Is there a term for this kind of reaction? You'd think the average joe would have a panic attack. I think I would. >I talked my way out of the situation.Nice.>Dont do meth kids.I'm pretty sure illegal narcotics alongside just having fun and enjoying building the project helped the first Warhammer 40k writers create Rogue Trader.Maybe drugs are the key to creativity. Stephen King did coke.
>>98017276What's with the eggheads?
>>98017275Not him but I want more.
>>98017227>A drag queen
>>98017340>scotia bankhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uO16MBdMwI
>>98017340Exquisite bait. 10/10
>>98017333>How would an average LGS' nerd community respond to hot goth girls showing up?I would say some of them would be awkward but very welcome. It tends to be nerds who have a fetish for goth girls. Now I'm trans and I was part of a 40k private club for over ten years. I've only engaged in sexual activity with 2 of the other members and the club had 12 members.
>>98017340Having a job is not the extent of being a man, but I'm sure the development of your kink had absolutely nothing to do with a lack of success in your relationships.
>>98017340
>>98017364Stop samefagging.
>>98017370You need meds anon, now.
A while back I talked about my art sister graduating uni and taking art commissions.Maybe 40k art commissions can save her sanity from having to deal with furry art commissions.So lads. What should I tell my sister to prepare her for 40k fandom autism before I start trying to sell her on the idea of taking Warhammer 40k art commissions?
>>98017218I like this guy's art, I like how does the detail work.Also I like the small additions like high heels on the power armor.
>>98017376Well knowing the internet 90% of commission requests she's gonna get are going to be porn regardless.
>>98017218>Roman mommy PrimarchPerfection...
>>98017376Prepare for lots of Marine, SoB, and IG OCs. Quality of request will vary.Avoid Dark Eldar, they bring in a shitty crowd.Be wary of Tau requests, they're an odd bunch.
>>98017389I can see that happening. It is about saving my sister from having to wholly depend on NSFW art. Or at least lower the chances of her having to depend on that stuff.Maybe she's alright with it and braced for it. >>98017395>avoid tau and Dark EldarAlright. Anything more?
>>98017349>Country? And what 40k army do you play?Canada. I have an Ork, Necron and Eldar army all at approximately 2500pts. The only "lord of war/super heavy" is an Ork Stompa.>That is weird. Is there a term for this kind of reaction? You'd think the average joe would have a panic attack. I think I would.I'm sure most people would have a panic attack but I didnt because I compartmentalize. During my drag performances I was playing a character not a true representation of myself. So when the cops drew their guns at me i was able to convince them that they were responding to a fake call designed to screw me over by one of my enemies. I also know how to talk to the police because my dad is a 20 year veteran of the Toronto police force.
>>98017395>Be wary of Tau requests, they're an odd bunch.Odd but simple requests.>"Give her gigantic tiddies and make her lactate."
>>98017292looks like i was off by an hour
>>98017390Don't forget the feminine short hair.Classy female short hair is one of my biggest fetishes and it sucks that I can't really pull off painting that kind of stuff on 28mm minis. I'd have a lot of female guard models like that.Mostly because I think long hair even if tied up is a liability.
>>98017395>>98017405>avoid Dark EldarNo please, Dark Eldar refresh anon needs more art.
>>98017405Chaos can also bring in weirdos so watch out for them too.Don't worry about having to draw xenos, outside of Tau fans the xenos fans barely ever ask for art.
>>98017390I'd never be able to fill her with my measly human girth. How vexing.
>>98016778Yes, just practice drawing shapes and painting volumetric lighting on them like you do on armor segments. It’ll make you better at mini painting too.
>>98017417Use "Perchance" and turn off the pg-13 filter. Yesterday I generated 30+ fetish pictures on there. It should be easy to get it to produce a lot of dark elder pictures.
>>98017435>Eldar and DEldar fans have to rely on AI to get fanart since jobody wants to draw their shitty factionsLmao
>>98017407>canada>torontoChecks out. Are any GW stores operating in Toronto? I heard that city is going to hell and I wouldn't be surprised if the hordes of homeless and druggies figured out that Warhammer boxes are expensive.Or they're probably busy robbing stores with Pokemon cards as that's all the rage these days.>fake call designed to screw me over by one of my enemiesAight I need context I need to know now.
>>98016838It’s a thing in gunpla, but they paint everything flat and let the environment light their models. Miniatures don’t look as good this way, compared to painting a light source directly onto the model.
>>98017435No thanks, I don't want to stoup to the mutants level.
>>98017420Piggy backing your reply to also say to avoid space wolves requests, they're just gross.
>>98017444What is this supposed to mean?
>please don't let this be the next season
>>98017462It means I don't want to be a retarded faggot like decalpedo that post shitty ai art.
>>98017420>>98017451Thank you.By chance would working at GW making Warhammer 40k art pay her well if she applies and somehow gets the job? She isn't British. She and I are both offspring of a WMAF relationship so maybe she has a chance through quotas assuming Bongland still does that stuff?Would working as a concept artist in the tabletop industry be a good choice for her and pay the bills?
>>98017473I like full figured women you projecting loser.
>>98017480GW artists are almost entirely curated in-house hires
>>98017439>Are any GW stores operating in Toronto?There is a GW at the Eaton Centre and another one at the Scarborough Center. There also used to be a location at the Oshawa Centre but it closed a few years ago because people stopped going there due to covid.>Aight I need context I need to know now.Basically I was drunk and tweaking at a drug house. I got into a fight and went home after it and the lower of the fight decided to call the police on me hoping they would find my drugs and arrest me. I actually did not have any more drugs on the I did everything I had when I was there hanging out. I assumed a character of an offended transwoman using "the method" and told them my side of the story from the perspective of an innocent person who had enemies. It also helped that I could tell them where my father worked "major crimes, 33 division" and they decided to just let me go despite them being told I had a gun (which I didn't so they couldn't find it searching me).
So which is it?>daemon army gets squatted, CSM only get one daemon detachment and it's be'lakor locked (shadow legion)>other daemon detachments are now part of their respective cult legionOR>daemon army gets squatted, CSM get at least 4 daemon detachmentsOR>daemons is still an standalone army with soups like it was in 10th
>>98017480I'd really recommend encouraging her to persue more stable forma of income while she grinds to make her art a side gig that will hopefully become her gravy train for the future.
>>98017376never mention politics, even if she has hard lines she doesn't want to cross, she is smarter if she refuses commissions without ever mentioning her own values as the reason, lying about not being confident in being able to pull something off or about a conflict in deadlines and schedules is better, everything else is as dumb as falling for scams.never attach your actual identity to the job, tell her to make an alias, it's only problems, ESPECIALLY for a girl.never confront lore inconsistencies with confidence, citing artistic freedom or irrelevance of the detail, retards take it as an affront, better be honest about not knowing the detail, also because not knowing the shit is never actually a problem with the fanbase, people will be extremely happy to participate in spreading minutiae and lore about 40k, it only becomes a problem when you double down on the mistake by arguing it's not because you decide so.blatantly lore breaking crossovers pay the bills because they spread the most, crossovers with furry shit also do.
>>98017484I thought you hated Eldar?
>>98017480No, not at all. For all those kinds of artistic roles GW makes a point to hire fans who will accept shit wages for the chance to work on a thing they love.
>>98017025I like that. That's actually plausible.
>>98017445Note how you mentioned exclusively your situation after the development of the kink, when the point is the situation before it.
>>98017445>NTAI fucking hate being naturally physically ugly so much it is unreal.>>98017490>There is a GW at the Eaton Centre and another one at the Scarborough Center. There also used to be a location at the Oshawa Centre but it closed a few years ago because people stopped going there due to covid.Not gonna lie if the homeless and druggies figure out how much GW plastic boxes are worth they'd probably steal from them to sell for chump change for drugs. I wonder if they'll make Pokemon scalpers look reasonable.Not gonna lie again. I'd probably pay up too. I'm sure it is illegal to do so but I am not perfect and can be tempted. >that storyI wasn't expecting that.
>>98017487>>98017515Thank you.>>98017497>>98017500This is excellent advice. Hopefully I will remember this.
>>98017417No I don't. I have a year long buffer and find more new stuff every week.
>>98017283i LOVE stiltman
>>98017493word bearers get the CSM demon detachment, and only with a small selection of the demon units.belakor's shadow legion is legends-pdf material, if not even just white dwarf.the other chaos cults get one detachment of color coded demons.
>>98017223can't have anyone ever threaten emps golden boys
>>98017528Oh awesome, now I'm going to murder the anon that lied to me :D
>>98017508Their women are the most sought after concubines in the Universe
>>98017493>Daemons have five detachments; one for each God and then Shadow Legion>Cult Legions can take their Gods' Daemon detachment as usual>Regular CSM can take a single Mono-God Daemon Detachment>Shadow Legion is 2DP and the opposite; you can take it for undivided Daemons, then either take a mono-God detachment or ally in one 1DP CSM Detachment to go with it
>>98017543Lol, race traitor.
>>98017493I think the infinity detachment framework means Daemons will linger in their weird limbo for one more edition, supported through online rules but not a codex. Maybe they'll get some smoother rules to ally in with cult legions since the current system with designated daemonkin detachments won't really make sense when every army takes multiple detachments.I expect that they'll be fully collapsed into the cult books come 12th, with some token digital rules for pure daemons/mixed daemon armies.
>>98017201I can make this even worse.Deep beneath the Imperial Palace lies countless stasis pods of sleeping thunder warriors. An emergency plan if the Imperial Fists Last Wall Protocol appears to be failing. Stronger than even space marines, yet unfit for galactic conquest, they are perfect for retaking a world and being the last line of defense of the capital of the Imperium
>>98017124We’re putting every fucking daemon in a tank!
>>98017547Too fun to be true, it's 100% going to be something lame and disappointing.
>>98017484You call this eldar? Lmao aislopper
>>98017519>Not gonna lie if the homeless and druggies figure out how much GW plastic boxes are worth they'd probably steal from them At the Eaton Centre the GW is right next to the entrance to the subway. At least once a week someone does a smash and grab. The location is still profitable enough to maintain. In this part of canada winter lasts for 6 months out of the year. Indoor hobbies are very popular.
>>98017223murder curse was shit writing to begin with, it's power scaling faggotry instead of an occasion for creating an interesting location of piece of history
>>98017148AdMech is really cool right now, its priceyness is overblown, even making one of the most gimmicky expensive lists that’s like all kataphrons, it’s only like 150 more than a bunch of other armies.There’s a lot of ways to play it though, and a big range, so you’re going to end up collecting a LOT.
>>98017559It makes me almost sad how the most popular CSM Legions seem to be the ones that actively scorn actually using Chaos.
>>98017484Kill yourself
>>98017555Can you stop posting this disgusting off topic shit and kill yourself? This has nothing to do with 40k. Get the fuck out of our thread.
>>98017590>ouryou're not part of this thread, decalnigger
>>98017590They are unscrupulous sex pests.
>>98017148I'm an admech fag, but of the options I'd honestly recommend Tau as a first army.A good deal cheaper to collect, much easier to cut your teeth on for building and painting, and tend to have more consistent rules for playing.Admech make more sense as a second army unless your heart is solely set on them.
>>98017592I told decalnigger to kill himself yesterday too you stupid fucking tranny retard.
>>98017484I will openly admit to using AI to generate images of Eldar, but never for porn reasons.Your pic exemplifies why; AI can never seem to get Eldar 'right'.
>>98017124TOTAL ENGINEFICATIONGET IN THE FUCKING SOUL GRINDER
>>98017590Whatever. I told my story about being a 40K playing Drag Queen so I don't need to say anymore about it.
>>98017577Just a recency thing, imo. They’ll push more wordbearer stuff with the terminator refresh and I think people will get into it. I jest about daemons, but I still bring my little 2x3 and 2x1 nurglings/beasts of Nurgle to most lists.
>>98017555you keep avoiding the point, but I guess that shows you're in denial about it, rather than an exceptionmay your tranny asses be plump and std free, my man
>>98017148If you go with Tau, you could use a few Votann minis as proxies to represent their alliance.
>>98017570>The location is still profitable enough to maintain>next to a subway>once a week smash and grab>still profitable enough to maintainThis world is stranger than what fiction can come up with.Is this Warhammer store possibly held up by GW out of spite so a theoretical LGS cannot take it's place by GW?>alsoThanks for bearing with me throughout all these posts. You posted your face here and I think that's an insane mixture of bravery and madness. Mostly madness given this place. I'll let you in on a little secret about phobias of those like you.>source: me but I'm not unique or special in any regardThere is an envy component because if you mention you're not comfortable in your body and surgery and meds can fix you involving transgenderism then proper doctors seem to me at least to be more inclined to help you. At the very least you get an actual support group online. But if you say the same things minus the transgenderism part doctors will pull out all the stops saying that shit is all in your head for whatever reason. Here you're condemned to be ridiculed on all sides and support groups are just hate-tanks. The hypocrisy is ridiculous
Can we fuck off with the tranny talk. transwomen are women because they literally can’t help themselves inserting themselves into male hobby spaces and making the conversation all about them. post models or talk about the game
>>98017615Fuck off off-topic spamming fag chaser
>>98017596Wow you're so brave, shut the fuck up.
>>98017601The Soul Grinder is in such a weird place right now. It's old and ugly and not well-liked, and you'd think it would have gotten squatted with the old Defiler, but it's still around. And they didn't remake it, at least not yet. And they kind of can't get rid of it right now because it's so relevant to Vashtorr's fluff and keeps getting mentioned in books with him.>>98017619That yours? Colors look good, but if you don't mind a bit of a critique, I think it could really use some shading on the blue parts.
>>98017619>The irony of using a dark eldar incubi pic for this statement
>>98017605>They’ll push more wordbearer stuff with the terminator refresh and I think people will get into it.I really doubt it, Black Legion is supposed to be the 'Terminator' Legion now with the Veterans Of The Long War detachment.Word Bearers are supposed to be Possessed and Masters of Possession, but those came back at a time when GW still wanted to shill Black Legion.I REALLY doubt they're going to do anything special for Word Bearers within the forseeable future.
>>98017628You shut the fuck up you absolutely disgusting fucking homosexual, this is the Warhammer 40,000 thread, we talk about our model game with little plastic space soldiers, not repulsive trannies and their fucking dating habits. Kill yourself.
>>98017636it’s still a WIP, i shaded him and put some gold on his bracer pieces yesterday. my archon is much further along
I've finished painting my first 25 termagants and soon will finish 15 more. Next I want to paint a bigger monster but I also want to work toward having a playable/cohesive army. What monster units pair best with a bunch of termagants?
>>98017646Tervigon naturally, although I don't know how viable it is in current edition/meta
Placed a bid on necron model on a whim and won. 100 bucks. I don't even play 'crons though.
GREY KNIGHT REFRESH WHEN
>>98017646seconding tervigon, maybe red terror could work for you toosubterreanan assault is staying and is still pretty good
>>98017656six months give or take
>>98017063Pretty cool, how expensive would the kit be?
>>98017656Be careful what you wish for. They're going to look so ugly primaris'd.
>>98017666$180.00
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/ztuwo7gs/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-chaos-space-marines-and-chaos-daemons/
>>98017667Do you ever shut the fuck up? Just shut up and fuck off. None of this has to do with 40k. You are such a retarded, narcissistic pile of shit, constantly talking about yourself and every last detail is completely irrelevant to this thread or actively off-putting. Jannies need to fucking ban you already. Fuck off and rope.
>>98017669dunno crowe looks pretty good, so strike squads are safe. terminators are gonna be the deciding factor
When is this nigga getting a refresh
>>98017637I can enjoy warhammer without basing my personality around what models I’m painting and playing. I want to go back to marines after deldar, my crimson fists were my first models, do I go back and redo them with primaris updates, or do I put more work into developing mydudes?
>>98017675Woah it's fucking nothing >starting with cabal of chaoslel
>>98016999I'll wait for it to be standalone and without the extra cardboard to grab one, unless GW does a big price increase before that lol.Wanna make 2x snipers with spotters, a squad of 5 scouts/commandos and then use the extra guy for something fun, maybe a character>>98017023>short lasgunpart of the kitFrom the look of it you get a choice between specialist / lasgun / lascarbineTheir lasguns are a tad different from the regular cadian ones but not by much.>colorsI like the studio cadian scheme with the yellow stripe
>>98017675lmao cabal got nerfed by no longer being auras
>>98017637That's always been the weird thing with drukhari. Yes of course they're degenerates, but they're also extremely authoritarian and """"""conservative""""""""">Viciously kills psykers and the wrong kinds of mutants, homonculi still do their thing>Hates humans not on a leash>Murder is le bad..... As long as it's not under one of the NUMEROUS exceptions They're evil but pretend they're not
>>98017677They leave his off topic filth up and quality model posts are removed, who's running this place!?!
>>9801767911th edition. You know he'll be released along other (imperial) characters
>>98016557Can you stop? Please?
>>98017690>who's running this place!?!jews and niggers
>>98017675Jesus Christ, Cabal got absolutely gutted. Genuinely unusable now.
Guys...it's Friday, it's gonna be a good day.
>>98017697Bro it wasn't even used to begin with. GW are taking the piss. Starting the preview with the one meme detachment nobody was using because it was undertuned to fuck.
>>98017697khornate infernal avatar got gutted like a fish and that was the only thing going for it, im so thankful rn that i didn't decide to get into csm for it
What’s the most “little brother” army? The most Luigi army? The most madcatz controller army?
>>98017063I knew titans had them but had not even considered knight ones.pretty cool honestly
Glad I didn't assemble my chaos stuff yet. It may get re-sold.>for more than I bought it for, because I am a good shopper
>>98017713Nobody was playing CSM for cabal though
>>98017689They're Anarcho-capitalists but instead of the libertarian NAP they have a MAD clause they all have to abide by instead to preserve the integrity dark city.
Nerfing the unused underwhelming detachment is peak corpo balancing kek
>>98017697>>98017723>>98017707It will be much better as a 1-point Detachment option people actually might take alongside a real Detachment than it ever was as a 3-point Detachment that locked you out of much better options.
>>98017714Guard >Don't worry space marine bro! We'll hold this planet down for you while you go do cool protagonist things.>*Immediately gets horribly killed by tyranids*
>>98017723thankfully ultimately no one was
>>98017728Nerfing effect, buffing the points. It's now 1/3rd of your Detachment instead of 100% of it.
>>98017675Well that's boring
>>98017734Thanks James very cool
>>98017742I bet all the other stuff will trigger sell offs and splurge purchases they're not ready for lol.It's super stupid they did this to begin with.
>>98017675>NL detachment is battleshock againKill me
>>98017750battleshock is getting a buff/nerf depending what you think of it>continuous ballistic skill nerf if you wont pass battleshock, and must take one each turn until its passed
>>98017750Battleshock got giga buffed though
I haven't been paying attention. Are the old detachments still gonna be a thing? I don't want to lose Creations of Bile yet...
>>98017675i do not care if they are “1 point” detachments, detachments that affect 3 datasheets (raptors, warptalons, chaos lord with jump pack) or 2 datasheets (havocs and obliterators) are a fucking sin.
>>98017758it might be main detachment plus the points systemlets hope for that
>>98017558that's kind of cool though and since thunder warriors are fallible it's okay>>98017048> intelligent firethat's so cool and evocative I love that
>>98017675>we fucked up by making large based units suck at being able to get on objectives this edition>instead of taking this into account when designing the game, we made a detachment to patch this GW rules writing at its finest and the edition hasn’t even started Has also raised the point of how tf something like outriders and ravenwing even take points now
>>98017754>>98017756It's definitely a buff. You might only have like a 30% chance to fail a Battleshock test, but now you're taking twice as many of them because they don't clear automatically. And out-of-phase triggers of Battleshock matter a lot more when they have a chance to persist into the active player's turn and don't clear automatically. The snap shooting change probably matters a lot into some shooting heavy armies but I think the loss of OC/strategems is still the bigger detriment. Having a chance to randomly lose 5 VP on each turn can swing games very abruptly.
>>98017697Now hold on for one a second.These detachments have all been 1-cost so far, meaning you still get two other detachment rules to use with them.This means we could see some potentially dangerous combos pop up since Cabal can essentially give any unit a flat +1 strength on shooting utilizing the Psyker enhancement ON TOP of what else the other Detachments might give them.For instance, just look at the new IW detachment as well. A Psyker Warpsmith leading Havocs now has +1 Strength and +1 to hit, with full access to stratagems from both. And this is before we even get into other detachments.Hell we could end up seeing Havocs with lascannons that hit on 2s, wound even Land Raiders on 3s, and have both Sustained and Lethal hits on 5+.
>>98017792Yeah, I think this is actually better than the existing Detachment because of that capability to combo with others.
>>98017792Woah this is so exciting !
Lots of anons ITT were certain that chaos daemons was getting squatted, where are they now?
>>98017792>Hell we could end up seeing Havocs with lascannons that hit on 2s, wound even Land Raiders on 3s, and have both Sustained and Lethal hits on 5+.That's cool an all but my Land Raider is parked behind a small pile of rubble meaning it's now Hidden and cannot be shot at unless you get within 12" (at which point I will overwatch you)
>>98017792i want less MTG cardgame rules in my wargame
>>98017815I am genuinely surprised they're not getting the axe. It's a pleasant surprise, but not what I would expect from the current GW.
>>98017143The onlly kind of gimmick i can think of for the lost primarchs is maybe that one of them got a geneseed flaw that turns their marines into rat people, but this just overlaps with space wolves as far as turning into a beast goes (plus skaven shouldn't be in 40k, they're too cool for that)
>>98017815It was a meme ya wankee.
One of the missing Primarchs landed on a Craftworld. The Emperor expunged records of him because by the time he was found has was married to an Autarch and had three kids who were all stronger psykers than Lorgar.He's still out there too, fucker was so prescient the Crusade could only find him once and never again after his Craftworld escaped.
>>98017819I'm sorry, I activate my Detection unit reducing your Hidden status to mere Cover, then negate it using my Ignores Cover Blast Weapon combining with a Lethal Hits Support Character and Rerolling strategem for a reduced command point cost from the Leader and use it all to obliterate your pathetic squad. Do you have any interrupts or does the attack resolve?
>>98017817You cant hide vehicles
>>98017303Oh. Then yeah, absolutely.
>>98017849Marines will get a detachment that lets them.
>>98017845I thought GW went low enough turning WH40k into a MOBA(Dota2/LoLegends).They went as far as adding a deck to shuffle and draw from somewhere for the game.
>>98017815Pretty sure they're still getting folded into the CSM codex, that's why they previewed them on the same day
>>98017855>They went as far as adding a deck to shuffle and draw from somewhere for the game.We've had that since 2nd edition
>>98017859No they were previewed on the same day because they barely have anything to show for the preview. They implied that WE and DG would get the same treatment.
>>98017675Another nothingburger preview.The only interesting bit is demons dodged the squattening.
>battleshock now doesnt go away until you pass a leadership test to regroup>nowGod thanks for reminding me how fucking SHIT 10th edition was. How was this not already how it worked?
>>98017872Why are they speed running their marketing previews? They took a lot longer on the 10th edition rollout. Is the preorder going up sooner than we think?
>>9801789010th edition was a hard reset and there was a lot more information to cover. 11th is just 10.5.
>>98017878Idk, this is a pretty big change. Getting to move through cover for shooting angles and still getting heavy allows a lot of nasty surprises.
>>98017899Context please.
>>98017899Heavy should force you to shoot snapshots if you don't meet the criteria.
>>98017782Units with large bases SHOULD struggle at holding objectives actually. This is a good thing. Infantry are your objective takers.
>>98017849Do they still get cover if they are partially obscured like in 10th?
>>98017929Yeah I think so
DEMONS CONFIRMED SURVIVED IN 11TH. FUCK YOU GUY WHO KEPT SHILLING THEY WERE DEAD. FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU.UGHHH IT FEELS SO GOOD TO BE FUCKING RIGHT. AGAIN.
>>98017918What the fuck are you doing? Stop posting this disgusting shit. How the fuck is this 40k related?
>>98017923That sounds like a call back to 7th when troops got Objective Secured in CAD.
>>98017904That's the new heavy rule. Compare to the current heavy rule.It:>No longer requires you to remain stationary and only limits you to 3" movement>No long works on Vehicles/Monsters engaged in combat
>>98017855genuinely how does that mean MOBA. Do you even know what a fucking MOBA is, or did you hear people call DoWIII a MOBA and it just lodged itself in your brain without you understanding it?
>>98017939No you don't get it, they made the distinction because they're the same army now
>>98017945Slaanesh. /issue.
>>98017675Is this shit supposed to be funny?Genuinely, how the fuck did they write this enhancement? Not a single person in the universe is going to pay 85+ points for a Warpsmith with this shit to add to a unit of Havocs for no purpose other than to reroll your pacts and some worthless, stapled on healing.
>>98017939You know, I noticed GW has not said a single thing about Codexes existing at all this edition yet for any faction or even implied what they might contain. I wonder if that's intentional.
>GW finally learned how to specify AT or Below Half strength Holy shit finally, I don't know how many games I had where a unit would hit half-strength but not below.
>>98017939Crazy...
>>98017939>he thinks demons are safelmao
>>98017955False, they use the same size header font only used for the factions in this article.
>havocs get pacts, T5 and ignore heavy and now cover/stealth on their weapons>Devstators are still T5, their weapons have heavy and their special rule is also ingore cover but they need to remain stationaryIt's not fair.
>daemonshitYAWNWhen is the Eldar focus?
>>98017969For another edition, we live.
>>98017977>EldarshitYAWNNobody cares.
>>98017973They're not supposed to be the same.
>>98017939Shouldnt all demons be with their cult legions?
>>98017973The voices in my head exclaim "its not fair" all the time. Deal with it.
>>98017973>different units in different armies are differentSay it ain’t so!Do CSM get rerolls on a unit for their entire army too?
>>98017984No, in 40k they are traditionally also a stand alone army who is only allied into CSM. Certain tards (or just pretending to be tards) ITT have been pushing a narrative they would be deleted from 40k this edition because they didn't get a codex in 10th, just an Index. Which made absolutely no sense because they got 10 detachments and received support the entire edition.
>>98017899I guess, but not many armies have heavy weapon infantry that matters.
>>98017921Nah, it was kind of gay that Heavy was the only ranged weapon type that was a weakness instead of a strength.
>>98017993Chosen already get to advance, shoot and charge in the same turn.
>>98017973Havocs are not a good unit
>>98017957Yeah this preview fucking sucks glad you're noticing
>>98018000Have you heard of a weapon rule called 'Hazardous'?
>>98017983No but they are an equivalent unit and devatators get shittier rules in enevery way. Same with dreadnogughts and hellbrutes.
>>98017979nope, sooner than that
>>98018012There is nothing meaningful about being better than something else if you still don't actually clear the threshold of being worth bringing.Havocs stinks, no one plays them, the fact that they are maybe arguably better than Devastators does not change that.
>>98017945You didnt know 4chan is full of pedophiles... most will never molested a kid but these drag kids being shown off in media is pedo bait.
Why doesn't the chaos lord get an invul save by default? Don't SM's always get the iron halo?
>>98018035Then imagine what devastators need to be viable if they are even worse than havocs in every single way.
>>98018040chaos marines aren't loyalist marines
>>98018051Are you seriously saying that in 10k years they could not reverse engineer the tech?
>>98017957Immense confidence in 11th edition just like I had for 10th edition, most playtested and fun edition yet guys.
>>98018019yea dats true also 'umies guard, 'umies sisters, and bloo tau will b e squatted dis editionn too. sources? da wierdboyz saws it in a dream!
>>98018051Chaos lords always had the equivalent invul save than a captain got, or at least had the ability to take wargear (Remember that?) that was an equivalent of an iron halo.
>>98018041the problem with infantry based antitanks like devs and havocs are numerous but>low number of shots get scammed by invuls>each wound or every two wounds is 20%-25% of your output gone>too slow to actually get in position to shoot their targets good infantry based antitank, like fire dragons, can use teleports or transports to get into position. another good infantry based antitank, scourges, have 14” fly and can avoid damage using their fire and fade ability. havocs and devs can expect to get 1 round of shooting, do 4.5 damage to a 4+ invul save vehicle or monster, then be deleted.
>>98018040>>98018051>>98018063this wargear applies a 5+ invulnerable save to the entire squad, good for raptors bodyguards, depending on the cost
>>98018010Weapon type, not special rule
>>98018070Why are you assuming the average vehicle has a 4+ invuln? The point of long range antitank like lascannons is to have the unit out of range controlling a firing lane.
>>98017939Autistic demons alive anon vindicated against baiting retard demons squatting wow I couldnt care less
>>98017999You can pivot tanks and shoot them now without penalty.
>>98018086What tanks even have heavy?
>>98017977>New Eldar detachmentsLoseer Council; At the start of the game, flip a coin. If it comes up Tails side up, you automatically lose the game because your Craftworld got scared and didn't show up to the battle.Codex Aspectes; You can take up to 500 points of ADEPTUS ASTARTES units in your army. While within 6" of an ADEPTUS ASTARTES unit, AELDARI units gain +1 Leadership. If not within 6" of an ADEPTUS ASTARTES unit, AELDARI units have -1 S to all attacks and -1 to Hit rolls.Devotees of Ynnead; YVRAINE must be your Warlord. At the start of each turn, roll 1d6, subtracting 1 from the result for each turn that has passed. On a result of 1 or less, Yvraine declares the battle is no longer worth it and leaves. Remove YVRAINE and her Bodyguard unit from the game and deactivate all other Detachment rules and Enhancements.
>>98017899Does "Set up on the battlefield this turn" include the first turn, or is deployment considered separately?>>98018079Both of them are special rules now. The thing that annoys me is that Heavy doesn't stack with Prioritised Efficiency, when the Votann codex was released late enough in the edition that they were already fixing other army rules to give +1 BS instead.
>Psychic weapons ignore all modifiers nowGrey Knights are back, baby
>>98018116Set up during deployment would be before the first turn started, so it wouldn't count against heavy.Basically you can't come in from reserves or a transport and get heavy is all, which is they way it is now.
>>98017957I'm wondering if "Heal" is going to work like it does in AoS, where it can bring dead models back as well.
https://youtu.be/-2U-6r7yiU4?si=KJY9Ai7iBrpj7QP640k Necron parody of I will survive.
>>98018129>>Psychic weapons ignore all modifiers nowThey WHAT?
>>98018093Gladiator lancer, tyrannofexes with rupture cannon (basically a tank), Repulsor Executioner, doomsday arc, land fortress, leman russ big gun, couple of tanks.
>>98018083you are assuming you have that firing lane when frequently you will not in a lot of formats. your opponent will not just leave a juicy target in the lane, these boards have tons of terrain and it feels like every big model gets a “walk through terrain 4” or less in height” rule now. even if you have a lane, it may not be that full 48” you want to take advantage of your distance and avoid being shot. your devs *will* be shot by something, they will not survive long enough to make back their points. and yes, there are lots of monsters and vehicles out there with great invul saves, I have suffered a great amount of ctan spam. I love devastors, I bought that box twice and have built out heavy bolters, lascannon, missile launcher, and multimelta teams, but they lack the speed or durability to be a good anti tank unit.
Vanilla Chaos Marines and Demons being in the same article makes me think their codex will be one fuck off huge book in 11th. That or they’re being economical with the website articles for whatever reason.
>>98018129>Psychic weapons ignore all modifiers nowbased if true
>>98018149You might be a genius but see >>98017872
>>98018143>>98018151It's in the video, not the article.Also [Lance] sounds like it is getting changed to reroll wounds instead of +1 to wound.
>>98018146Fuck I hate how inconsistent these things are. 10th is a nightmare. Bring back the old datasheet format and weapon types.
>>98018158So what's twin linked now? Didn't they want to reduce re-rolls?
>>98018158So lance becomes Melee twin-linked?Interesting decision, but I suppose it makes sense considering how strong lance is.Really lets you punch above your weight in certain situations.
https://youtu.be/lokjoK9kZaE?si=7vAWRzLYyp8EHLKmAn imperial propaganda song. Im serious check it out.
>>98018173fuck off
>>98018173This is everything.
>>98018173Its cool, but not as good as this one i think:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiwHx9AMv1wAI music in general has come a long way
>>98017998>traditionally also a stand alone armyNo that's nuGW shit. Traditionally they were part of the Chaos codex alongside Chaos Marines, then at the end of 4th ed the newfag designers thought it would be a great idea to split them up and it's been a retarded circus ever since.
>>98018093Hammerhead, Hekaton Land Fortress, Kapricus Defender, Stormsurge, Broadsides.This is actually quite the buff to the Kapricus since it means the can jump shoot jump with their railgun.
>>98018173AI slop or shitty parody of a real life propaganda song?
>>98018188slop
>>98018168That was previous edition.This edition we're bringing things back to remove them next edition.
>>98018129inb4 Grey knights lose psychic on most weapons now that it's no longer a pure drawback, because GK can't have nice things
>>98017656Enjoy paying $70 for five, almost optionless Strike Intercessors with CAWL NEMESI SWORDS and BOLTSTORM GAUNTLETS. Grey Knights are one of the last bastions of good design, sculpting and options. One box can make three different units. Don't wish for the enshitification of one of the last holdouts of the better times!
>>98018213okay but manlet scale
>>98018169Twin-linked is already melee twin-linked, shit like dual lightning claws has it.
All of these ass blasted peasants are unable to appreciate these 40k parody songs.
Grey Knights and Drukhari getting big range refreshes are going to be such massive monkey paws in ways we can't even predict yet. Expect people to be praising the slop everywhere else though.
>>98018222Proper scale. None of this faggy TRUSKALE nonsense that will constantly be made large to sell people yet more of the same miniatures.
>>98018238Can't wait for DEldar to get a new centerpiece model that's just a big shittier Tantalus witj Lelith and he lesbian lover scissoring on the main deck.
>>98018246Primaris are too big but anon a marine being smaller than a regular guardsmen isn't proper scale.
>>98018213Anything related to Matt Ward in any capacity deserves enshitification and nothing less
Decalbro, after some reflection we decided we were wrong to exclude you and you can now join the discord
>>98018222can always do what I did if you also have more money than sense.
>>98018249Scale was fine. >>98018250Grey Knights existed since RT.
>>98018250>Matt Ward invented grey knightsI hate newfags so much, you probably weren't even into 40k when Ward still worked for GW and only hate on him to fit in
>>98018252Anon if I wanted in I'd already be in and there would be nothing you could do about it.
The best posts in this thread are the ones talking about big Eldar butts and the only other ones that are close are the one-off model posts that avoid drama.
>>98018280go police reddit or something nomodels
>>98018272I mean you couldn't, you were banned on the first day remember, fatAlittleD?
>>98018294shut the fuck up decalnigger
>>98016542How do you choose your chapter? I really love Blood Angels but I also love shooting and ranged marines, it’s a bit weird to not entirely focus on combat with BA?
>>98018238it’s hard for me to imagine that the deldar refresh will be bad when we’ve gotten the new>incubi>archon>mandrakeseven mayls isn’t awful>>98018248haha ohhh noooo fucking GW
Everybody describe a new unit you want for your favorite faction.Bonus hard mode: list one that would be a good addition for EVERY faction.For me, I want a modernized Malefactor for the nids. Should be a dual-kit with a Dactylis.
>>98018222Literally grab a 3d scan of he current kit and print it larger you knob
>>98018238>can't predictWorse kit in every wayFun elements removed from designcopy paste o matic 5000less optionsDid I miss any?
>>98018258I love your work as always inq GK anon
>>98018315Just wait for the hilariously awkward wargear loadouts that specifically match whatever they can get on the sprue.
>>98018258Are these conversions using new terminators? They look good.
>>98018238today I will remind them
>>98018330to be fair this is what most of the chicks who play Warhammer look like face wise.
do I have to respect omnissiah in front of admech people or are they chill
>>98018327yup! with a bit of cutting the GK terminator torso fits inside the back piece of the new terminator torso. few bits of gapfilling and hiding things with extra bits and you're good to go. can do similar with normal intercessor/strike marines too.>>98018319ty anon
>>98018330That her model looks great?>Those heels
>>98017815>>98017939They are kept because they are still getting good stats by competitive players, just like the Deathwatch>>98018330>>98018342Did the artist and the modelers not talked? her mode looks NOTHING like the art damn
>>98018342this model sucks tho? Shitty shadowheart ripoff
>>98018330She looks like a low-rank Power Rangers villain who shows up in one episode just so one of the Rangers can get some character progression by beating her, and afterwards it cuts back to Lord Zedd sitting on a throne as a minion comes in and informs him of her demise, to which he responds "Hmm yes, the Rangers are indeed strong to defeat Lady Malys. Next week I shall send Rita Repulsa to cast a spell and give one of them teenage depression."
>>98018338they’re chill AND you have to respect the Omnissiah (remember to capitalize his name). hope this helps :)
>>98018261>>98018268Sorry, you’re right. The current grey knight range is good and soulful
>>98018238>>98018305I can see retards at GW refreshing Kabalite part of Deldar (since it's the face of Deldar), which will be a massive downgrade in terms of options, customization and overall not being neededMeanwhile units they scrapped will stay scrapped until next edition at leastFunctionally, kits will be taller and with tactical rocks, but worse and range will stay in this small, downsized size for another 4-5 years until another refresh wave in 12th edition. At best they will get dedicated Dracon model so they can have their own Lieutenant and named character like VectIf they refresh Wyches they will be in burkas like Witch Elves in AoS
I enjoy cutting off bits of my own skin and eating it, what army should I play?
>>98018373
>>98018308>SMcombat serfs (mesh armor buff commandos with hellguns, shotguns and autoguns) or Pathfinders (veteran in scout armor)>IGLord commissar or Tempestus Scion Sentinel>SoBFrateris Militia, can be used for Imp Agents, IG and GSC>CustodesCeremonial guard, display/narrative model>Imp AgentsGeneric Inquisitor kit, lots of options (recurring theme for me)>OrksMega Dredd, with options>T'auEither a plastic version of the old FW experimental suits, or a taurelian dogs kit>EldarNew aspect warrior or bring back the mini wraith guards (wraith warriors?)>DeldarPure blood warriors bespoke kit (sort of veterans) or Kheradruakh>NidsGenestealer HQ, either a mini patriarch or a specialist (can also be used for GSC)>NecronsColossus / Ushabti but necron>GSCTyrant/queen equivalent>CSMApothecary/mini fabius bile generic HQ>demonseither chaos undivided demons or a mid-sized demon, between lesser and greater demons.
>>98018373flesh eaters seems like a pretty safe bet.
Anyone else got a game this weekend?
>>98016557Bruh!
>>98018308More Destiny for all
>>98018399Anon just made me think of a way they could've done the Eldar dying race style AND still have tons of them die by the droves but still be feasibly dying instead of clearly extinct if it weren't for plot. They could do like Fallen where vital resources or infrastructure needed to feed or maintain them is scarce or jealously hoarded by leaders. Thus, breeding isn't the issue but sustaining them is as more and more fall apart or output decreases because it's lost technology that they're desperate to fix. But that would never work for Eldar because individually each Eldar is far more capable than the typical Guardsman or the base soldier of many other factions and thus them as a horde faction wouldn't make sense outside some War in Heaven story and even then Orks/Krork would be way easier to make soldiers so they still wouldn't be a swarm faction.
>>98018373Tau and get a lot of kroot.
update on my underhive display shelf/diorama. thinking it needs more wires/cables? should there be more pipes in places?>the pipes won't be staying clean plastic, will be texturing with tamiya putty later today>still working on the large garage door that will go over the flat one currently in place on the left
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>>98018376stop ban evading
>>98018419What a kewl lil project, I really love Dioramas. I made my first one in 1st grade art class.
>>98018336They also do anal.
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>>98018399KH2 is still the best KH.
Consider the following; Eldar do not sweat or secrete other bodily fluids.With this combined with their psychic physiology and dogmatic anti-pleasure culture, sex with an Eldar woman would likely be short and unpleasant. After insertion she would simply push a pressure point on your neck in order to trigger a nervous response and induce ejaculation (Your nerves would be too overloaded to feel anything more than a slight tingling) before she simply gets out of bed and finds something else to do.
>>98018399Oh no, 40k will get microtransactions!
>>98018448
>>98018448With her long spindly fingers she'd probably just honk your prostate like a clown nose.
>>98018448But does that mean https://files.catbox.moe/6i2mka.jpg is an inaccurate depiction of Guilliman's visits to Craftsworlds?
>>98018473That's what Harlequin girls do when they feel feisty.
>>98018399>new CSM weapon
>>98018485Well yeah, Eldar women don't have breasts larger than an a-cup. They're all basically flat.
>>98018491This looks like deldar stuff
>>98018502I'm pretty sure that is Thorn from Destiny which literally fires Poison Splinter ammo. It is exactly the definition of a Splinter Pistol. Probably the weird relic one that Archons used to have in older editions.
>>98018491Me prefer the black hole gun
New player here, I really enjoyed painting the Beginner box and I'm going down to the game shop later to get some more beginner-friendly shit. Stuff for painting and a new model to work on over the weekend. I already picked up some brushes and I'm gonna grab a can for priming (Chaos Black?). Is there anything else definitely worth getting?
>>98018522Do what you must, buy the buttplug model holder.
>>98018519Also a Dark Eldar weapon.
>>98018448Dark Eldar clearly enjoy sex, so they're physically capable. I do think Craftworld Eldar would intentionally make physical intimacy as pleasureless as possible to avoid getting addicted.THEREFORE, one of the most effective ways to torture an Eldar would be to overload their sense of pleasure through orgasms, just like your favorite Chinese Lǐfān Tóngrén.
>>98018491That looks like something the GSC multiarmed cowboy would use rather than a Chaos warrior
>>98018527I have actually looked at the buttplug model holder. Is it superior in any sense to the cheap-ass DIY version of wine corks and sticky tack? I've already got a lot of wine.
>>98018448kinda kek that 40k fandom (mostly space marine larpers as usual) want eldar gf and hates eldar in general at same time
>>98018571It's okay but if you have the stuff for the DIY one you can probably pass on it pretty easily.
>>98018564>Dark Eldar clearly enjoy sexProofs? Dressing like BDSM whores is not enough.
>>98018579How common and men that lust after and hate women at the same time?
>>98018587Do you think they have oft-mentioned orgies in the lore just for the aesthetics of it? It's like their daily business meeting they just have to get through to appease the boss?
>>98018564Sex is a power move for DEldar, not a pleasure move. They do it to show dominance over a subordinate, or to cause an impregnation as a display of power given how long Eldar pregnancied last and how vulnerable the mother is during that time. Dark Eldar only feel actual pleasure when physically torturing someone.
>>98018579i think is very normal, play against eldar or the eldar lore is trash, but the coomer art and the door open by guilliman+ivrayne makes them great for imperial xeno gf fantasies...
inb4 grey knights get squatted into a psychic custodes variant
>>98018609This. Many who actually lean into the pairing do so thinking if it as 'saving' or 'fixing' the Eldar by disconnecting her from the faction as a whole and making her 'more Imperial' as it were.
>>98018617No, just make Grey Knights into a competitive army lol
>>98018579never ask a space marine what race his girlfriend is.
Bit of a rant, but I don't understand why Imperial Guard players always have their tanks and such be from the exact same regiment as their infantry. Example: 14948th Cadian Shock Troops infantry platoon, with the 14948th on the tanks too. That isn't how regiments work in real life or in 40k.
>>98018636It's funny that a lot of guard players are a little autistic about rivet counting but not autistic enough to actually research much military or setting history beyond the aesthetics.
>>9801863640,000 years in the future, military organisation may have changed just a little bit
>>98018628just remove grey knights as an army and make them an elite choice for a bigger inquisition codex. 40k does not need a gorillion space marine armies, thats what horus heresy is for.
>>98018602I've never seen anything in the lore to make me think they don't enjoy sex for the pleasure as well.
>>98018602Source for saying that deldar don't derive pleasure from sex? Let me guess, you made it up.
>>98018636well, regiments, depending on the army, can and do include mixed elements irl, but in 40k, regiments are all infantry, all tanks, all artillery, specifically so no one commander has a complete effective fighting force they control and can go rogue with right?
>>98018660All lore is made up silly.
>>98018668I accept your concession
>>98018656>>98018660In one of the Uriel Ventris books a Wych rides a Human to get his blood pumping for a Haemonculi, and is disgusted by the act. Afterwards she considers she'll likely need to have more sex with him, and it doesn't make her happy.
>>98018587dark eldar did so much degenerate fucking they spawned an evil god of degenerate fucking. the old empire pleasure cults weren’t just sex of course, all manner of hedonistic pleasures were pursued, but sex was definitely one of the cornerstones of the cults>>98018602but elves are consistently described as creatures of heightened emotional sense, and it is firmly established it is the act of feeding off intense emotions that sustains their souls and fends off slannesh. physical torture is one of their favorites, but it is because of the emotions released during torture.
>>98018672So she's disgusted by sex with a human, a race that eldar consider to be little more than animals, and you take this to mean they don't enjoy sex at all?
>>98018673>but elves are consistently described as creatures of heightened emotional sense,That's the case for Eldar because of their heightened connection to the Warp. Dark Eldar intentionall crippled that connection to avoid Slaanesh's attention, making them emotionally stunted.
>>98018679Ah, well that must mean the DEldar are highly logical pragmatists as a race while the Craftworlds are capricious bleeding hearts and berserkers. ...oh wait.
>>98018679no, they cut off and neglected their psychic powers to avoid slannesh, but feeling intense emotions are the only thing that slows the draining of their souls. wych cults fight in gladiatorial combat to feel the intense emotions of combat and near death situations. if they didn’t need to feel that wych cults gladiator pits would not be a thing, they would just torture defenseless beings
>>98018647Anon he specifically pointed out that's not how it works in 40k either. Like explicitly in the lore.
>Literally talking about Eldar feelingsJesus this general is dead
>>98018686Except that's actually correct. That's why the Eldar need to use the Warmask to disassociate their personalities for battle. The Drukhari actually are very pragmatic, they just also are immoral and have very few needs besides power and ensuring their own persistence above all others. They're not really fickle betrayers and good for their word, they just live by the word of agreements and not the spirit of them. And humans will always see them as evil and exploitative because they see humans as a prey species and don't recognize them as people for the most part or feel any remorse stringing them up for sustenance when they are always starving. It's like a cow trying to negotiate with a butcher who just really has a craving for beef and doesn't think the cow is particularly articulate or compelling and sounds pretty dumb anyways and probably would have gotten itself killed anyway if he let it go.
>>98018672>Black Library
>>98018702>boo hoo me, they’re discussing warhammer 40k instead of trannys and name fags
>>98018702This is the most on-topic and alive the general has been all day, I'd rather read 1000 posts about Eldar feelings than another off-topic autistic meltdown from a troon or sperg, amd I don't even play Eldar
>>98018702Oh no! Anyway
>>98018702Don't worry I'm sure decalfag will post something to attract attention soon and you can go back to sperging about him. That's what this general is mostly about at this point anyway
>>98018701source?
>>98018702>AHHHHH NOOOO 40KG IS SUPPOSE TO BE SPAMMING DOAKES.JPG AND VOMIT GIFS AT DECALFAGS MODELS AHHH HOW CAN THIS BEFuck off niglet
>>98018704I think this certainly a way to interpret them that makes them less absolutely evil, and this a good way to present them in any story where they are protagonist so they are decently relatable.but I also like the “unrepentant villains”. evil soul vampire bastards is fun, even if you couldn’t really write good stories around it, and 40k is and should be flexible enough that we can enjoy deldar either which way. maybe that’s a bit of a cop out.
>>98018598>Do you think they have oft-mentioned orgies in the lore just for the aesthetics of it?>It's like their daily business meeting they just have to get through to appease the boss?Not him but that would be pretty funny.>"Ugghhh! Why do we have to go to the corporate mandated orgy every week? It's so boring! There isn't even any ">"THIS FUCKING ORGY COULD'VE JUST BEEN A FUCKING E-MAIL!"
>>98018733you're talking to the mutant, retarded frogposter
>>98018715>>98018716>>98018723>>98018733Lmao cope and seethe eldartroons, your faction will never actually be important. The only thing that matters about them is how hard they lose whenever they show up.
>>98018743>starts sperging out for no reason>lmao cope and seetheimperiumfags not sending their best
>>98018726NTA but tanks are usually their own thing (Armored Regiments), same with Basilisks and Earthshakers (Artillery Regiments). Chimeras, Sentinels and Salamanders are the mechanized units you'd be likely to see in a non-specialized unit, as everyone needs scouts and transports to one extent or the other.
>>98018747>for no reasonYou guys are LITERALLY talking about the 'emotions' of a background alien faction because some loser posted about having sex with one.All this does is prove even more that Eldar are a joke of a faction.
>>98018377>combat serfs (mesh armor buff commandos with hellguns, shotguns and autoguns) or Pathfinders (veteran in scout armor)Interesting, could be neat although I think a number of marine players would balk at humans being added to their superhuman faction, and Pathfinders would take away the uniqueness of Wolf Scouts (but fuck SW lol amirite)>Lord commissar or Tempestus Scion SentinelThere's no current Lord Commissar model? Tempestus Sentinel would be cool if it was a drop sentinel like Elysians had.>Frateris Militia, can be used for Imp Agents, IG and GSCFuck yes, you can kind of already make them from Cawdor hangers though.>Ceremonial guard, display/narrative modelSick if it's based on the Blanche art>Generic Inquisitor kit, lots of options (recurring theme for me)Hard to do well, but perhaps GW could manage not to fuck it up>Mega Dredd, with optionsGood>Either a plastic version of the old FW experimental suits, or a taurelian dogs kitGreat!>New aspect warrior or bring back the mini wraith guards (wraith warriors?)I like wraith constructs all being big and chunky. The mini ones (ghost warriors originally) were never really small either it was just all the models were smaller back in the day.>Pure blood warriors bespoke kit (sort of veterans) or KheradruakhMeh, kind of uninspired given all the things they could do>Genestealer HQ, either a mini patriarch or a specialist (can also be used for GSC)Uh... it already exists anon it's called a Broodlord>Colossus / Ushabti but necronSeems like it would step on the toes of C'tan shards>Tyrant/queen equivalentA big GSC monster could be cool but it has to feel like GSC and not just be another Tyranid beast>Apothecary/mini fabius bile generic HQBrilliant yes>either chaos undivided demons or a mid-sized demon, between lesser and greater demonsArent juggernauts, fiends, beasts of nurgle all basically this?
I think Commorragh is probably the most interesting single city (or possibly even location) in the galaxy outside of Necromunda.
>>98018755trying too hard
>>98018726Like all the Imperial Guard codexes in every edition basically
>>98018759Same, which is why its odd I've literally never heard anything about the specialist game set there (Spires of Commoragh). Even the wiki doesn't have an entry. Was it really that godawful?
>>98018762Go cry more. You eldarfags are always like this, one faggot brings them up and suddennly out of the aoodwork comes 2-3 other faggots to 'discuss' something stupid or inconsequential.>But in this book nobody read it says eldar get super duoer sad sometime!Nobody gives a fuck, just post eldar porn or fuck off. It's all they're good for.
>>98018758nta but re: generic Inquisitor GW already produces an amazing multi-part character kit with a TON of customization and even features compatibility with other models!>head options>backpack/cloak options>tons of weapons>male/female torso options>work super easy with bits available in other aeldari kits>specifically 100% totally compatible with parts from the autarch skyleaper tooGW totally can do it, they just.. choose not to.
>>98018759It is for sure, it's painfully underexplored. Also Rick Priestley has said that after Necromunda and Gorkamorka they had been planning to do more skirmish games like that all set in different locations with different sets of "gangs" and the next big one they had planned was Commorragh but GW business faggots shut it down after the financial failure of Gorkamorka (which they had forced the studio to write and release in only 8 weeks so it didnt have enough time to be play tested and polished). Extreme shame, imagine how cool it would have been if all the labels and wych cults and haemonculus covens and shit had been as diversified from each other as Necromunda gangs.
>>98018778trying WAY too hard
>>98018778>AAAAH NOOO PEOPLE ARE DISCUSSING 40K IN THE 40K GENERALkys dude, and I don't even play eldar
>>98018783>trying WAY too hardTo do what, retard?
>>98018781>labelsKabals, sorry phoneposting from work.
>>98018775My bad, it was "Gangs of Commoragh". Can't even remember the right title, not a good sign.
>>98018798Yeah it was just an excuse to sell off reavers and hellions that were taking up shelf space I dont think any real thought or effort was put into that game.They should have the specialist games team that does Necromunda dona Commorragh spin off like I described above.
>>98018788This isn't 40k, this is some random tertiary bullshit not even covered in books.
>>98017939>celebrating that the clown vomit abortion that is "chaos daemons" persists Oh boy I sure do love having an army that promotes retarded shit like a Great Unclean One leading an army of Blue Horrors instead of something that makes sense like having the Nurgle marines and Nurgle daemons in the same book with no arbitrary restrictions
>>98018803>discussing the lore of a 40k faction isn't 40kLolLmao even>>98018804This, hopefully we get Cult Legion detachments that include the appropriate daemons
>>98018778I am terribly sorry that your faction does not have anyone else that cares about it enough to discuss it with you any time of day.
>>98018803>booksyou've never read a single 40k book nigger, you just watch youtube shorts and listen to ai summaries
>>98018801>Reavers and Hellions>Taking up shelf spaceThe funny thing is both of those kits have been online only for over a decade now and you can't buy them in stores and they're always put of stock anyway...
>>98018809I'm terribly sorry your faction is the one of gay space elves who have never done anything important and only ever show up to get their teeth kicked in by literally everyone else in the setting.>>98018807You're legitimately brain damaged if you think "muh emotions" is actual lore.>>98018812Even THOSE people are preferable to the literal faggots discussing eldar here.
>>98018826>getting this heated over fantasy space elves from a toy soldier game for childrenclean that foam off your mouth and go see a mental health specialist anon, you clearly need help
>>98018801Sec Maegra, the foreign district of Commoragh, could easily be a Necromunda style battleground with all the different alien mercenary Companies stationed there as well as the Drukhari gangs. There's literally tons of opportunities there and the diverse labyrinth nature of the Webway would allow all kinds of weird battlefields too.
>>98016893>>98016919Yeah their schtick is BIG game hunters, and being an aquatic based chapter
>>98018826>noo dont talk about things waah
>>98018826All right, time to talk about Necron feelings for the rest of the day then. Do engrams dream of electric zoats?
>>98018826What army do you play?
>>98018158Whoever writes the articles fucked up. Wouldn't be the first time this has happened.
>>98018308Orkz with big choppas, and i mean REALLY BIG, as proportionally big as a ratling using an eviscerator chainblade.
>>98018854>implying he owns any models
>>98018854CSM.And no, I won't post models for you freaks to associate with me for your sperg-outs like decalnog.
>>98018876got it, you're a secondary just desperate for attention
>>98018448this is beautiful and wholesome
>>98018876>faggot playing a faction that literally only exists get shit on by the imperium thinking his opinions matterlol, lmao even
>>98018826but it is lore, we’re not talking about “our feelings” we’re discussing physiological workings of elves, this is the stuff that makes them alien instead of skinny pointy ear humans, and it’s a big part of why they behave the way they do.
>>98018893The one that just beat Prince Yriel and the Corsairs' asses?
>>98018893he doesn't play it, he's a larper
>>98018876nta and I don’t even know what you guys are arguing about, but if you aren’t man enough to show your models, then your opinion isn’t worth considering anyway.
>>98018904>Just show your models so any time they're posted in the future 2-3 faggots can complain endless about you for calling them out!Nah.
>>98018908you would need models to be able to have people remember them :)
maybe its time for some japanese 40k twitter, they always have nice conversions and kitbashes
>>98018917What are their opinions on Eldar emotions and sex?
>no detachment that synergizes cultists and daemons for full themed cultist army
>>98018308Crystal Dragons. The idea of an aspect warrior in big crystal power armor with heavy weapons is fucking cool. Eldar need more units that aren’t made of paper mache.
>>98018917Bet they're busy complaining about recliner seats
>>98018308Dark eldar Xenos mercenary squad with a customizable composition
>>98018923didn't find out that's not just takeshi sex variant so far
>>98018308Seers' council of techpriests, or some kind of robot to flesh out cybernetica.
>>98018686>highly logical pragmatistsNo it just makes them sociopaths
>>98018896>NPC faction beats NPCx2 factionLOL
I don’t understand this eldar hateit’s one of the founding core factions of 40k, there from the rogue trader days. Im not seeing complaints about the rules or the models, just a bunch of “eldar are gay” and “background faction”. The hate lacks substance, is it eldar, or do you hate every faction you don’t personally own or collect?
>>98018957nu40k fans are more concerned with mental larp and "repping their faction" like some D-tier football hooligans
>>98018957It's their player base, total sleazes.
>>98018957It's easy (You)s so you'll ocasionally get people doing it for attention. Unless you're literally braindead like fecalfag and actually believe it.
>>98018963stop ban evading
>>98018963How can you know that if you never leave your house and only "play" with your brother?
>>98018759>>98018781I genuinely believe it's something better left showcased in snippets. If they deep dived into Commowaagh with anything it would ruin the mystique.
you know what, the new Land Speeder isnt so ass after all
>>98018970I drift in and out of various communal gathering of 40k players online and notice patterns and behavioral traits. Obviously there are outliers but its a steady trend of snooty freaks.
>>98018982Are those the groups you look for your Queenies in? Showing off coins of silver and asking for addresses to send Tyranid models?
>>98018982>I drift in and out of various communal gathering of 40k players onlineno you don't, you get kicked out everywhere you go>notice patterns and behavioral traitstextbook autistic behavior
>>98018976Who gets to decide what is played on the radio?
check my wip terrain board>>98018964this definitely isn’t it, chaos is cool, I play plenty of chaos players. all 5 variants are represented locally to me, and I only have a ~12 player group. >>98018962this has to be a nomodels thing. Unless they are new to the hobby or don’t have the money to spend, everyone I know has at least 2 armies. the army your opponent brings is far less important than their own behavior and personality.
>>98018957Years of Eldar and fantasy elves being insufferable to play against because of rules writer favoritism combined with being massive dicks that are also frequently very stupid in various stories metastasized in the fanbases collective consciousness as a hatred or dislike for them.
>>98018976I'll miss brother tinnitus
>>98018991How do you think the Heresy truly started?
New space wolf book is being dropped.
>>98018957Eldar are a faction that's legitimarely never win a significant victory in the history of 40k despite how long they've been in the setting. They don't have an Ocatrius, or a Cadia, or even a Damocles. They're almost universally a faction that shows up just to be beaten, and when that isn't the case they're just in the background 'pulling strings' to cause things that either backfire on them completely or would have happened anyways without them. They are, quite literally, a faction that only ever does things in the background, since any time they're put in the foreground it's just for them to eat a loss.Despite this, Eldar still managed to accrue some semblence of a fanbase because they're elves. This fanbase often ignores or even scorns actual canon because of how it trears the Eldar, getting very uppity and defensive when the actual fluff surrounding Eldar (primarily how they're jobbers) is brought up. They like to pretend their personal or collective headcanons are rhe actual truth, since GW hasn't given them any sort of meaningful fluff in over ten years now.Adding on to this, Eldar are an oppressive and generally unfun army on tabletop, which is more or less the only claim to fame they have. Eldar fans also get quite defensive over this fact as well, ad they KNOW there's a stigma surrounding tabletop Eldar and they don't want ro be associated with it.Eldar are an essentially cursed faction that gets no good lore, has really unlikeable players, and has been trudging along behind everyone else since their last major plotline was so bad it nearly killed the faction.
>>98018996but this isn’t necessarily true either. deldar have been decent at best this edition. cwe has had really high bust highs and really low worse than agents lows. They’ve flown in and out of the bullshit to dogshit spectrum over years an editions. Nobody holds the 5th edition codex over the greyknight’s heads anymore and use that a reason to dogpile their faction.
>>98019022>Nobody holds the 5th edition codex over the greyknight’s heads anymore and use that a reason to dogpile their faction.They absolutely do, but mostly for lore reasons now. The Terminus Decree debacle made that quite apparent.
>>98019005>"Brother, allow me to set the tone before we fly into battle! Because we are in a speeder I believe the Ancient Terra song, "It ain't me" is most appropriate!">"No brother, this will not do. I believe the situation calls for another song of Ancient Terra, "Kick Start my Heart" is the clear choice.">"And a fine choice it is, but as you can clearly see, brother, I am driving.">"And I am manning the weapons. The accuracy of my aim will falter if I do not have the appropriate choir to assist me.">"The Codex is clear! The pilot determines the music!">"...">"...">"...It's called "Fortunate Son."">"Pardon, brother?">"You said the song was called, "It ain't me." You are wrong, it is called "Fortunate Son."">"...What other lies has the False Emperor told me."
>>98019038>The Terminus Decreebest part about it is that it shat on the HH theorising for which I applaude the codex's author
>>98019011Imagine saving something like this on your computer
>>98018957Fanbase of nu40k main protagonist really really hate anyone who better that them in anything, and eldar are easy target to hate compared to necrons or orks because their "lore" aka blslop is terrible to W's and old 40k had eldar derangement syndrome because they were been op at tabletop which didn't fit their fluff. On the other hand current fanbase are mad about non-fuckable eldar waifu while eldar males railed human foids since 1991
>>98019011>>98019055
>>98019022>but this isn’t necessarily true either. deldar have been decent at best this editionDark Eldar are their own thing>cwe has had really high bust highs and really low worse than agents lows. They’ve flown in and out of the bullshit to dogshit spectrum over years an editionsmaybe they were maybe they weren't but that's ultimately unimportant because the times where Eldar were comically horseshit overpowered will stick out in peoples heads way stronger than the couple times they were mediocre or bad and what sticks in peoples heads is what forms their perception of something whether or not it is completely accurate.>Nobody holds the 5th edition codex over the greyknight’s heads anymore and use that a reason to dogpile their faction.They still do when it comes to lore since it was comically bad at times. But again it's really a perception thing since it only happened the one time aside from the daemon summoning incident it leaves a much weaker impression in the collective perception of the fanbase compared to the Eldar
>>98016566>Eldar conquer the Imperium and institute a femdom Elf supremacist societyMy magical realm is a glorious place
>>98019083Reminder that the Emperor wanted a path into the Webway within the Imperial Palace so he could bring Eldar babes directly to his crib.
>>98019083That sounds like Morathi realm in AoS, believe me is not where you wanna be.
I wnat fire raptors in 40k to replace storm ravens.
>>98019121Post your Lamenters
>>98019022Things are so bad right now I wish my biggest complaint was the 5th edition GK codex.
>>98016542>Are you brave enough to summarize your homebrew and share it with us to be judged?Bunch of iron warriors who got indepted to Vashtorr by accident, so now they have to fuck around searching for STCs and chaos artifacts while commiting acts of violence. They are chaos worshipers, but they are like your drunk uncle who goes to church once per 2-3 years but still considers himself a devout catholic. And that's the icon bearer for my chosen
>>98018976>Exposed legsSo if it crashes it cripples the pilot and passenger. Great job cawl.
>>98018342Reminder that this head is in four pieces
>>98019101Morathi's version involves sticking knivies into peeholes.The Craftworlders would just call you mon'keigh in an arrogant tone then sit on your face.
CWR are literally the lowest winrate faction in the game right now save for agents
>>98019136The normal one would do the same.>>98018976I'm using this one to proxy the new speeder. It already has missiles and a melta, just needs to replace the heavy bolter's barrel with the gatling. Speaking of which what the fuck is the point of both the gatling cannon and assault cannon existing if they looke 99% the same and their rules are basically identical, but the gatling gets 2 extra attacks? Just buff the assault cannon?
>>98019163Craftworld Eldar*
Hopefully the new speeder shows the future of classic boxnoughts. There's enough design space for two weight classes of speeders and of dreadnoughts. There's no need to force the big one to become the standard.
>>98019128fuck, sorry
>>98019163Don't worry, 11th will fix it.We already know Psychic weapons now itnore modifiers, so Farseers are going to be wiping out entire Marine squads by themselves.
I like playing good guys. Maybe if the imperium were actually good guys I wouldn't default to playing eldar
>>98019069>>98019022DEldar have been totally mediocre in the game and forgettable in the lore for the entirety of the their history with two big exceptions: when the Vect boat first came out with some crazy bullshit rules and during 9th when they were the first codex of the edition to have actually good rules after some weak early codexes and their points were all stupidly undercosted. Nobody really cares about them otherwise and GW literally forgets they exist for decades at a time.Craftworlds on the other hand get dragged out to be clowned on frequently in the lore while topping tournaments at some point in every edition.
>>98019182Eldar can't be good guys, they're losers. Good guys don't lose.
>>98019188This. We like winners here, that's why Marines are so popular.
Hey guys, I know I might get some flake for saying this but whateverI like Warhammer 40,000
>>98019188Nids are the good guys?
>>98019201Fake news
>>98019202Correct.
>>98019188>Good guys don't lose.wdym it happens all the time irl
>>98019188>>98019200Spoiler: Chaos will win in the endSo why are you not playing them?
>>98019205Not a big fan of ‘nids. Or ‘nidders as I call em. No sir, not a fan at all.
>CSM/daemon preview was such a nothingburger that nobody is talking about it Whew
>>98019212>niddersKek
>>98018779What's the recipe for this base? I know it's basic, but I like that it's inoffensive and works with pretty much any terrain/battle mat/paint scheme
>>98019217They covered three meme detachments for CSM and the only major news for Daemons is that they get to continue existing.
>>98019217I'm happy demons survived
>>98019209They aren't the good guys.
>>98019201Bitch did you just come into a Warhammer 40,000 thread to talk about liking Warhammer 40,000 in a Warhammer 40,000 thread full of Warhammer 40,000 fans who hate Warhammer 40,000 and post about hating Warhammer 40,000 in a Warhammer 40,000 thread?
>>98019232Depends who you ask.Abby will tell you otherwise.
>>98019217Most interesting things is new Heavy (3" move :0) and daemons existing. I'll need to see how all the current detachments get modified before I make an opinion.
>>98019217>>98019224>>98019227>>98019246can someone explain why gw didnt killed the daemon army and split their forces into reapective cult factions?
>>98019253Why bother?
>>98019253They've got no balls.
>>98019239>depends on who you askThey are demons, they are evil.>Abby will tell you otherwise.Abaddon is one of the few who actually does think that chaos is evil. He's just using it as a means to establish his own empire because he is a megalomaniacal dumbass who has an ego bigger than the Emperor.
>>98019217it's quiet because all the faggots like >>98019253 who were smugly insisting daemons were getting squatted are seething lmfao
>>98019253>We can have 10 different color variations of marineshit>One Codex for demons and we lose our mindGrow up.
>>98019175the new speeder only exists because the starter box needed a centerpiece for the marine side, and will disappear within 10 years for a different ETB product smallnoughts have no chance
>>98019288They have more of a chance than speeders who actually got squatted for an entire edition before getting updated. Boxnoughts just need an extra sprue with the missing weapons and rules thay aren't purposefully made dogshit.
>>98019201You're really brave saying such a thing anon.
>>98019266Marines sell, 'demons' don't.
Mork + Gork btfo chaos easily
>>98019305@Gork iz dis tru?
>>98019305
>>98019253Daemons originally used to be part of the same codex as CSM. The design was intentional and thematic, due to the corrosive effect of the Warp CSM didn't get access to all of the same stuff as loyalist marines. They did share some of the older stuff since they are veterans of the Heresy.But CSM made up for the difference by having daemons and daemon engines.However chaosfags were butthurt that they were forced to take daemons into their armies, since they only cared about using spiky marines. (99% of chaosfags are just marinefags, ie. they are normies but they still want to feel special and contrarian so they picked the "good guys but spiky and evil" faction)This then caused GW to just split daemons and CSM into separate codexes, and since literally nobody gave a fuck about daemons, nobody has bought them.And GW can see that daemons just don't plain sell at all, so GW has decided to take daemons and shove them into their respective CSM legion codexes because they know that literally nobody plays or even cares about daemons.
>>98019313you don't belong
What lore is best?Book Lore written by "proffesional" writers who have to comb through thousands of hours worth of pre-established lore (poorly) and write based on the direction of corporate heads?Or Meme Lore made by a collective of dedicated fans and a long running inside joke?
>>98019253If they'te not discontinuing the models they might as well leave them be.
>>98019266Xenos players have been dealing with entitled marinepigs for years anon. You grow up
>>98019341BL is garbage.
>>98019266>>98019346rent free
>>98019341>Broad concepts across the setting and factionsProfessionals>Finer details and exposition using those conceptsMeme lore>Significant or long-lasting charactersProfessionals who can play ball with meme lore
new bread when
>>98019341both are trashlore is built by artists and hobbyists setting down the most expensive thematic premises for the most and coolest shit that gets to be actually modelled and played
A guy gifted me a model at work the other day, its a knight dude but really small, about the size of a FEC ghoul.I wonder if I could submit him to the collage and make a Guy-Ritchie esque joke about him being a "big guy"
>>98019360When we hit page 8 or image limit.Post models or cool art if you want to get there faster
>>98018924>playing an army with 200+ models on the table
>>98019305true, they’d krump them, but they know their lads need some good entertainment.
>>98019378Nice of him to give you a model in between you two flipping big macs. Did he know you're a warhammer dude?
>>98017960They did, they said you can continue using your 10th codex until the 11th ones come out, and I think Space Marines and Orks are getting theirs on launch.
>>98017973Still not using Havocs, will continue to run at you, nice and screaming, with Chosen.
>>98019420sovl
Not really expecting anything but boy do I hope 11th comes with some rules for NOT playing on the dumb ass symmetrical board system. I get the rules are built around it but christ it looks bad.
>>98019341IG characters are basically kept hostage by their fans exclusively being able to form sentences around 20 year old memes anyway
>>98019420>An ARMY? In my WAR game?!
>>98019341Ideally the lore should be so good that it on its own contains some good ass meme aspects that makes shit hype all around. Like that Ork that solo'd a titan with nothing but a squig and his bike
Damn Vyper has 4 bodies, leaving me with spare ones. This is great, I already have ideas to use them for converting
>>98019420this anon is right every army should have 10 model max and every list always should have a very expensive named character.
>>98019494pretty much everything has spare torsos, now legs are only spare on vehicles where the real value lies
>>98019496>its either 10 models or 200, no in between
>>98019496sounds like quite a killer of a team anon
>>98019341Imposter syndrome's a big part but he never seems to realize he's gone well above his job description. Heck, his own job he does well enough. If people are volunteering to go with you on suicide missions because they're more afraid of disappointing you than dying, then that's some amazing morale. He knows he's a good swordsman and shot but it's really freaking weird.But I've met people like that. I want to just call it imposter syndrome but>Oh no! I dropped a single bag as I was carrying 3 people's worth of goods.makes me think they have some subconscious confidence to carry that much in the first place. I don't know what standard they judge themselves by.
>>98019494Technically two are for the Vyper and two are for the Starfang
>>98019217I was pogging about daemons existing and I like the battleline detachment since I have 40 Plaguebearers and 30 bloodletters.
>>98019574Imposter Syndrome is a weird kind of beast. Like my Uncle is one of the smartest, competent, nicest, selfless guys I know but he goes through these long depression cycles where he feels like he is a failure and a fraud and that everyone secretly thinks he's retarded. Meanwhile he has his family and a fuck ton of friends who are all really supportive.Now apparently my grandpa was extra hard on him growing up to live by his standards of being a man. I never got the details.
alright im ready to hear it nowwhat the fuck does kill team meani have been hearing that term thrown around atleast 4 years without anyone ever explaining what it means
>>98019665It's a small scale game, played with a small number of models, how tf do you not know this after 4 years?
>>98019665As in within the 40k universe or IRL?
>>98019430Yeah he does other kind of figurines (human shows dioramas and stuff) and I shared some pics of my warhammer stuff.
>>98019665>anime poster>is retardedMANY SUCH CASES!
>>98019314daemons are a poorly supported faction in the first placeits always been treated as an after thought since they are supposed to be a soup faction of multiple themes and bridging faction between fantasy and 40kdue to being a soup faction they lack any coherent identitywanna explain why khornite daemons are working with a lord of change? well uh chaos! (this is unironically a good enough reason though)and despite being the bridging faction between fantasy and 40k, they aren't always even getting the same daemons from fantasy eitherand i don't think 40k even gets their own daemons in the first place aside from vastorr who could have been their opportunity to make a wave of undivided daemons but they didn'tswitching to deity focus just made more sense with how they're not developing the deity legions
>>98019665>what is google>what is warhammer.com>why am I on a board that isn't /a/
Let cult legions use daemons by default, not in one single shitty detachment. Make them share an army rule so they aren't dogshit.
>>98019730there's really no reason why it shouldn't be like this especially since the non nurgle cult legions are anemic currently.
>>98019676so basically just like 40k in 40 minutes was> how tf do you not know this after 4 yearsi heard about the warhammer community website just last year because nobody told mefor years i went to the old gw shop website like a poor person same as when forge world was killed and i had no idea
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>>98019753I mean I found out about all this stuff from watching auspex tactics on youtube
>>98018308The nice thing about a new Dactylis is that it could take the role of "big blast weapon" which means they could focus down on Exocrine being an anti-tank weapon.Hard to see how to make the Malefactor distinct from the Toxicrene and Haruspex though.Anyway, to answer the question, Grimnyr on trike and a melee battleline Hearthkyn unit.
>>98016842>>98016829>>98016848Went and had a quick look...retard was trying to dry them off after washing them, by throwing them in the oven at like 550F
>>98018213>Grey Knights are one of the last bastions of good design, sculpting and options>5e codex that started this trend was maligned for stupid reasons.
