We are alpharius editionPrevious Heresy: >>97996370>HH 3.0 - Complete gofile - All Books:https://gofile.io/d/cnJk0N>Titanicus Compendiumshttps://gofile.io/d/qdYzem>New Edition, to a great wailing and gnashing of teeth:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/setting/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS>30k TACTICA & TIPShttps://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLphttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/3.0_Tactics/General_Tactics『Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis』>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloadshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/legions-imperialis/>List of Titan Legions with Badges and Colourshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jccq0V--SwJifLVLwbisYnQeqLlS2pMSiPbGXp1Brs/htmlview>More listshttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Titan_Legions>What size magnets do I need?5x1mm>Tacticshttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Adeptus_Titanicus/Tactics>Legions Imperialis Army Builderhttps://legionbuilder.app/>Thread Question:Do you think Omegon is real, or just another Alpha Legion psyop/cope?
YOU CAN'T STOP WHAT'S COMING
>>98021472Are those pauldrons aerodynamic?
Thanks to whomever posted this, it made me chuckle.
>spend the weekend reorganizing current projects and generally tidying up>find two completely unassembled Contemptors that I have no memory of buying whatsoever Hot dog!
Titan owners: Did you build a base for yours and if so, what materials did you use? Mine feels very top heavy and like it wants to fall backwards with a slight nudge which a base I think will fix
>>98021635I have this with predators. I have 11 and I keep finding more.
>>98021751Loan an Anon a Predator, please?
>>98021704My warhound was pretty wobbly, so I built it a footprint style base to stabilise it. I used plasticard for the base and foam PVC offcuts to bulk it out, rest is my usual basing ingredients.
so I bought an Ironclad Dreadnought for the chainfist, can you field him as a castra-ferrum or are none of the weapon options available? Have a Kharn.
>>98021704I've seen some solid wood bases that look pretty good and seem ideal for lowing the centre of gravity.
>>98021764I wish I could help you anon. But I would have to ask my mom, to post it and she doesn't like anything having to do with models.
>>98021846Wouldn't a thick PCV base, maybe two layers would be enough. You could even give it a rubber base, so it doesn't slip.
>>98021831Can't use the hurricane bolter, but everything else exists as a weapon option iirc. Just count the siege drill as a regular dreadnought ccw. Take a look at the unit entry yourself, it's in the legacies rules which a free to download.
>>98021831Shame about losing HK missiles. Can always run them as a havoc launcher.>>98021916>hurricane bolterOne can always leave the six bolters out, cover the hole with some plasticard and slap whatever weapon(s) one wants on it.
>>98021916thanks anon wasn't sure where to look
>>98021916Man I so wished HH had LR Crusaders, Redeemers and Achileas.
>>98022022>I so wished HH had LR Achilles.But it do.
>>98022022Achilles is in Legacies PDF
>>98022022>crusader/reedemerMade in 40k.>achillesIf you could learn how to spell it you would find out it's already in 30k and had a 30k specific variant, the achilles-alpha.
Is that fucking victory is venegance in the warcom downloads? Woah.
>>98021916>>98021950Why not say the hurricane bolter is your gravis bolt cannon at that point?>>98022404Pretty sure Achilles-Alpha hasn't been a thing since 1.0Achilles is also kinda meh this edition because the quad launcher doesn't cut it as AV anymore and it's not any tougher than a normal LR
>>98022455>Why not say the hurricane bolter is your gravis bolt cannon at that point?
>>98022455>had
Hey DA Disintegrator vet chud, how do you do your black armor?
>>98022634>Black basecoat>Turquoise mixed with black for broad highlights>Beige edge highlights on most exposed edges>Matt varnish once everything is paintedIt's a bit lazy but it works.
>>98022192>>98022404People here don't play with legacy stuff. And Achileas is how it is writen in my language. It was the name of a hero and he was Macedonian.
>>98022708That's so retarded, do they rip out half the units from the Libers too or something? Even the rules explicitly state the legacies are as legal as what's in the libers.
>>98022741Ignore him, the polish retards are not playing real 30k and thus should be ignored like the larpers they are
>>98022708>It was the name of a hero and he was Macedonian
>>98022779I'm polish and we play using legacies.
>>98021846>>98021777>>98021704OH fuck are we titty posting?
>>98022829Which city are you in? I’m moving to Poland soon and wondering if there’s even a scene.
>>98022994The city of Żytomierz.
>>98023045Wypierdalaj
>>98022906How much to print me a volkite?
>>98023067>turning Vulcan into a nigger
>>98022455Quad launchers were never amazing antitank. They were just sorta there. I'd rather be concerned about the Gravis Multi-melta sponsons.Melta as a whole almost stopped working outright with both the removal of Explodes (gone is the benefit of AP1 over AP2), and the removal of Armourbane's extra dice.Then Gravis Multi-meltas become S+1 instead of 2x shots? Disheartening.The Achilles function as a transport is better than ever, now its cargo can charge the same turn. But its firepower is severely diminished.
>>98023083If you color him black, then you can no longer use regular outlines. And you cannot have white outlines, so you'd have to use no outlines, Samurai Jack style.It's illegal to be that based.
>>98023050O jaki zdenerwowany. Afraid to tell where he is from. Ashamed of his own colours. Are Capital Imperialis a post scourging invention?
>>98023204I'm not talking about his skin color I'm talking about his facial features, Vulkan in both official art and model is a white dude with pitch black skin, take those nigger lips and pinched cranium and get out
>>98023206Urodziłem się za granicą, i się przeprowadzam do Krakowa. I tak, nie lubię kraju gdzie się urodziłem, i dlatego się przeprowadzam debilu.
Should I snag a saturnine dread for £30? It seems like a great deal
English, you drunken pigs.
>>98023272What part of debil and Krakow you don't understand. If I hear Chinese talking about something and bīng qílín and Hong Kong is mentioned. They I know nothing of mandarin Chinese, but I know that they are talking about washing money in Chinese National Bank located in Poland through ice cream stores, headd by the Hong Kong mob.
>>98023272>not having a translator of some kind built into/installed in your browser
>>98023269they make nice conversion bases for redemptor and ballistus dreadnoughts. Much better looking then the GW originals. I would say geting one or two is a good deal.
>>98023333Guys....what if someone of the Poles in here are not Poles, but just dudes with translators. I mean, it can't be the same insane dude posting 24/7. even a Pole has to sleep at some point.
>>98023344The Pole is probably on meth or fentanyl (like 99% of all slavs) so he posts for about 72 hours straight before crashing for a day or so
>>98023337You had me worried I posted in the wrong general you sick fuck.
How do the old legion command models compare to newer ones? Do any SoH bros have any picture comparisons?
>>98023189Oh come off it. Melta is still perfectly fine anti-tank. Even more reliably so, it's a flat 6 damage in melta range as long as you roll that pen. Anybody who thinks melta is useless is a blatant nogames.
>>98023391Melta isnt useless, but its much harder to use now - particularly against high AV (which was once its main target). Melta is the "get a single shot on a rear armor and explode a tank" gun now (or the "get a shot off and explode a tank" gun if you use the kratos). But between low melta ranges, low shots (the gravis used to be 2 shots twin linked hitting on 2, now its one shot hitting on 3s), and a struggle vs high AV its usability is much more limited now. A full 10 man squad will struggle against a land-raider.
>>98023455>But between low melta rangesWhich are largely the same as older editions? Melta guns never had a reasonable chance to do anything against a land raider outside 6", and they still need the Armourbane to really bust tanks.>low shots (the gravis)Dreadnoughts were THE problem of 2.0 for a reason. Melta has always been low number of shots.>struggle vs high AVThe penetration roll is the only chance tanks get any more to survive, there is no vehicle damage chart roll after which turns the penetrating hit into a useless Crew Shaken result. Just roll that six.
>>98023485>Which are largely the same as older editions?Not on the bigger guns. Multi meltas went from 12" to 8", the magna-meltas went from 18" to 12" and so on (meanwhile the melta-blast gun went to 24"). >>98023485>Melta has always been low number of shots.Those shots were also (often) very reliable - the multi melta rerolling to hit is rather significant. But also: a lot of the guns people used WERENT low shots, the gravis and predator variants both had multiple shots (which isnt necessarily good game design wise, but was a reason to take and use them). >Just roll that six.And thats the issue. Its a weapon type that relies on "high rolling". Its low shots volume, low chance to do anything if you hit and reliant on a very specific situation. Even if theyre mathematically fine (or at least "useful in some situations") they feel bad if nothing else. Melta went from one of the most reliable ways to do damage (rerolling to hit, very easy pen rolls, etc) to a gun that relies on "just roll a 6" vs the tanks that represent "durability". (melta still has a use, but that use is making knight players pick up that 800pts superheavy they brought).
>>98023505>Needing to be lucky on the penetration roll means it's useless>But needing to be lucky on the vehicle damage chart means it's super reliable!Yeah you're just trolling. Come back after you played your first game.
>>98023455As it should be, you shouldn't be able to 1-shot every single vehicle in the game with a 230pt melta TSS by driving into 12" with your 60pt M12 RhinoGravis multi-melta isn't even that bad, the biggest problem is that PotMS/Relentless is no longer a thing so you can't just drive into 8" and nuke vehicles with the sponsons and a pintle multi-melta
>>98023530Hull points existed anon. And even "lesser" damage results could cripple a tank. You went from the gun that did damage reliably (rerolls to hit, 2d6 to pen) and had a chance to blow stuff up, to the gun that either (rarely) oneshots or whiffs entirely. >>98023541I think predator/dread meltas suffer too much from accuracy. Theyre very all or nothing and thats not great. 2 shots wouldnt be too much for them I feel.
>>98023219ur a nigga?
>>98023337go back
>>98023576>Pred/DreadNot an accuracy problem, it's a "can't use Heavy (RS) and Melta at the same time" problem, just give them Relentless back and it will be fine>2-shotWhy would I ever take lascannon preds again if the melta pred had 2 shots lmao>Melta predIt's like 120pts and you can take 4 of them per detachment, just take more of them if you think you'll whiff
>>98023702>just take more of them if you think you'll whiffThis. I can take two melta predators for less points than a single land raider. One of them only has to be lucky once, which happens pretty much every game.
>>98023344"poland"we all know he's just too ashamed to admit where he's really from
>>98023858Serbia
>>98023576>You went from the gun that did damage reliably (rerolls to hit, 2d6 to pen) and had a chance to blow stuff up, to the gun that either (rarely) oneshots or whiffs entirely.This. I wouldn't bitch if penetrations could cause vehicle damage instead of it being only on a 1/6 and specifically on the 1/6 that causes no damage.Instead, melta guns either kill or don't do anything, which is exactly what >>98023541 is arguing against ("a shot shouldn't be 0-kill, in-between states should exist")
>>98021704I use styrene wedding cake platforms. They're intended to support the tiers of a multilayer cale so they're available in a variety of diameters, and plastic terrain cements to them exactly like a model kit.
>>98023702>Not an accuracy problemAbsolutely is. Going from 35/36 to hit or 8/9 to hit to 2/3 to hit is pretty big. ESPECIALLY with a smaller number of shots (they used to have multiples in previous editions). >Why would I ever take lascannon preds again if the melta pred had 2 shots lmaoThat was definetly the issue last edition too. The answer would ideally be "range", but its a hard balancing act.
How will GW handle legion-specific units going forward? A lot of kits either need to be upscaled or are no longer available
>>98024018I suspect there arent any new legion specific unit (kits) coming out any time soon. Phraetus (the last "legion specific unit") are a conversion "do it yourself" thing, and theres a lot of vanilla units they need to get through before they get to individual niche specialists. I imagine (and hope) there would be outrage if thet start releasing "imperial fist suppressors" (or whatever new unit they make up) before outriders or plastic flyers and land speeders and whatever else.
>>98024018In the livestream that gave us the TANKS! roadmap they said that they would start making plastic legion specific units but only after most of the core space marine units had been converted to plastic.
>>98024293it's not happening, heresy products have bombed since mid-2nd ed. They would probably consider the super-heavies, fliers and the rumoured warhound titan long before legion specifics.
I think all that's left at this stage is to do the stripes on the wings and I can finally move on to the turrets and rockets.
>>98024018>>98024332>>98024293Peak fucking smooth brain GW move desu. nuke the old catas, forget nothing is compatable with the new cata kit. Leave the entire hobby fandom out in the cold until they make an actual not shit upgrade kit for it.It fucking amazes me that GW makes these kinda retarded choices, then wonders why so many people buy from recasters or 3d printers. Like fuck dude i want to give GW my money, but they are making it as difficult as possible to do so.
>>98024381naisu straipu
>>98024475sankyu, anon-kun
>>98024381Also, part of me regrets not getting Tamiya Clear Red and covering the cockpit glass with it.Should I do it?
>>98024381He said consummate v's, consummate!Jeeze, guy wouldn't know majesty if it came up and bit him in the face.
>>98024517I legit have no idea what that means.
>>98024018as if. why bother ? it wouldn't make them more money than marine kits.they can pump out 40k kits that print them money when it come with good rules. the new eldar corsair are sitting on the shelves when the defiler sell out before the preorder window finishesall gw game play second fiddle to the golden geese
>>98024018I would love if GW made new legion-specific weapon upgrade kits that only came with one of each weapon so you’d have to buy 5-10 kits to fully outfit a squad.
>>98024441there's a logic to it since they want to cut the catalogue down as much as possible and it is way easier for them to change the expectations of the playerbase than it is to actually offer every unit, especially since they want to get rid of resin entirely. They will probably make legion specifics as an 'upgrade' datasheet for core units so you'll buy cata, give them power axes and call them justaerin etc.
>>98024441>t nothing is compatable with the new cata kit.do they sell any cata upgrades other than vigil storm shields now?(the vigil shields are absolutely compatible and in-scale)>>98024498red wunz go fasta
My gaming group and I loved playing HH2, but since HH3 there was a quick and rapid loss of interest and, beyond the odd game, we've now reached a point where we've fully switched over to K47 and BA.I'm sad, friends, I just want to play with my space marines but no one can hold their nose and stomach the system/GW anymore.Any advice? Or anyone with similar experiences?
>>98024717>Or anyone with similar experiences?More or less the opposite around here, seems to have been a relative explosion of HH. Although I dont think its the edition as much as "critical mass and time", plastic releases dont hurt any either.
>>98024717Most of the playerbase has decided to take a break until GW releases nu-scale plastic MKIV marines
>>98024717best hope is to find some new guys since most long time players are skipping third ed. Even then it's also been slow on kits so there's just not much to do in terms of hobby.
Horus was framed by the Emperor and Terran bureaucrats. The Warmaster was just trying to save the Galaxy from (((them))) but we didn't listen to him and now its too late.
>>98024942The Emperor wants to become a god and discard his loyal sons when they are no longer useful to him. Everything that happens is completely deserved
>>98024717Sucks to be you, lmao. Over here 3.0 has brought in a ton of new people, and several people who quit in 2.0 because it was so fucking trash have started playing again. Sometimes even play multiple times in one week, it's been good.
>>98024942This post was fact checked by trve cthonian pQtriots. Horus's spirit will rise from warp and the galaxy shall know he was right.
>>98005329Cont.Best I can come up with is taking the old legion vexilla and slapping on a trio of SW diamond runes. There's a few sizes available, so I'm sure one of them is able to squeeze into the vexilla. Bigger problem is trying to remove the dot from the middle of the lower diamonds, but patience and a sharp blade should do the trick.
>>98024994Nah
>>98005329>>98025154Theres guys on etsy who will print custom decnals for you, anon.
>>98025171the most eloquent loyalist...
>>98025223>etsy
>>98025277What about em, ive gotten some good shit from there. If they arent masculine enough for you, im sure theres people on ebay who do it as well, or just on random websites maybe.
>>98025226Proof then, Ballsinyourcourt-arion
>>98025366We could start with the handing of the keys to the galaxy to entirely green bureaucrats that spilled not one drop of blood for the worlds they now possess. Expeditionary fleets and their conquered planets being taxed before the turbulent era of the Great Crusade even met its end... The gene-bred war engine that is the Astartes was in the process of being discarded like a spent torch decades before isstvan III.
Are AT and Ligam dead games? I've watched an AT battle report and it seems fun.
>>98025154that exact glyph comes to be used by khorne berserkers and other csmswhat's up with that
very crude apotropaic eye is what i glean it to besimple but powerful
>>98024011>AccuracyYou do realize accuracy (roll to hit) and strength (penetration roll) are factors in the same equation (how many penetration hits)?>smaller number of shotsGW doesn't want you to use meltas against Terminators, there's a reason why the melta family got added strength/damage instead when literally every other weapon in the game got more shots for losing twin-linked>rangeIf you cut them to 24" why don't I just take melta speeders/bikes instead and at least have some shot of getting into range to use the melta rule?>>98023920I'm OK with it being all or nothing, though penetrating hits should really be "glancing hits, but better". My point was that you shouldn't be able to roll up to AV14 vehicles with basic meltas and 1-shot them by rolling Explode like you could in 2.0.
>>98025760>Revamp blast rules to be the best they've ever been>Decide the Melta blastgun shan't engage with this blast nonsenseThe very nerve. I'd rather have the Melta Blastgun be Blast 1 than Heavy 2. Maybe Magna meltas too
>>98025712the rustre is an old heraldic device>>98025749also possiblebut the actual answer is that they're both Brazilian
Had a fun 1500 pt game of SoH vs Space Wolves. This has been so much better than 40k.
>>98026016>better than 40kTo be fair, that is a very low bar lmao
why are loyalists so cringeand not in a good waylike where you're based
yeah this whole imperium fucking thingwhich would have you believe that it is a championing force of human self-sovereignty and dignity despite its upholding and propagation of the practice of servitorizationwhich installs living weapons as its generals only to abandon them on a plane of reality already slated for obsolescence which devolved at the first instant possible into bureaucratic miserliness and usury and slavery at gunpoint on a dimewasn't ever gonna pan outangron was always righthighriders inevitably eat shit and diethe emperor was always a corpse-lordmalignant egregore looking motherfucker fuck you
>take one's time executing a loyalist dog>they won't shut the fuck up about the breaking of oaths and shit>when their drawing of breath is tantamount to the ongoing betrayal of all humanity in subjugating the species beneath the incumbent shade of tyrant afootthe imperium had to die simple as, there's no goddamn argument to be made
>>98026146
fucking hate loyalist dipshitsfucking faggots the lot of 'em
FUCKING LOYALIST SCUM AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
semi-sapient pigdog filth motherfuckers
oooo look at me i'm a fistoid my life has been given over to defense of the fetid parasite heart of this whole endeavor i'm so very noble
>>98026146see, my eastern euro ass know that you made the first error assuming the Champions of humanity , in any time line,should and would think that "self-sovereignty and dignity" are not a thing that is real, but should be pro activly implemented in to humanity.
oooo look at me i'm a space wolf i'm a subhuman barbarian from a backwater frozen hellhole and the emperor jerked a dog off into a petri dish when he made my dad, i'm the fiercest of them all
>>98025449>handing of the keys to the galaxy to entirely green bureaucrats that spilled not one drop of blood for the worlds they now possessIt is the Imperium of Man, not Imperium of Posthuman. Astartes cannot understand the cares and wants of civilians because they have no lives of their own – only the deaths of others.They care not for hearth and home, only beating the galaxy into submission.
>>98026210Like any child soldier does. In every society and every time in history.
lo, am i a dark angel. i have been schooled from induction in the art of carefully ravaging the assholes of young boys as per the sacred doctrines of our first and foremost legion in its glorious pederast temples
i am a blood angel and i stand as singular example and proof that the lowliest dredges of abhuman squalor that the imperium can possibly provide can still be redeemed into cannibal vampire warlords with pretty faces
>>98026224You must be a Calibanite, because the Lion did not allow any churches or places of worship, neither old or new. Even the mechanicus were not allowed to perform their rites in front of him.
i am an iron hand and my bitch nigga retard ass father got himself so utterly killed on istvaan v by a motherfucking twink of all people that me and my brothers started cutting off our genit- i mean limbs in repudiation of our obvious weakness and inherent failure in simply being as evidenced by pops getting made rid of his stupid fucking head
>>98026224you sound kinda jealous anon
i am a salamander and we have collectively managed to convince ourselves that incinerating people alive with promethium is on the whole a great deal more wholesome and decent than doing anything like ever, ever, ever, ever, ever using the likes of phosphex or radiation weapons
i am an ultramarine and my sole joy in life is micromanaging the agricultural output of a world full of baseliners having their produce stolen quarterly at the barrel of a boltgun
i am a raven guardi am spectacularly gay but because we're so excellent at subterfuge, you'd never know it....
>>98026016which wolf outwolfed the other?
i am a white scari was stolen from my family in early childhood and now i have epicanthal folds on my eyes for some reason after getting pozzed up with spacemongol rapebaby seed
Which heresy discord was run by the troon walrus again?
what Lord Garrius did in Cthonia was justified and an act of righteous self defence
>>98026308what happened?
>>98026343Lord Garrius was very fatphobic to the population of Cthonia. He had a special weapon mounted on his wrist just to torture them.
>>98024717Why don't you drones just play an earlier edition or homebrew? I don't get why so many GW product buyers are unimaginative and inflexible. Do you have no free-will?
>>98026118It is but I only got into the hobby late 8th~early 9th so this rule set seems godsend. >>98026265Sons of Horus. Finaly score was 17-13
ladies and gentlemen, cocaine
How could a mid to late heresy EC army be painted? I heard by the end of the war they were in a mess of colors and painted their tanks black due to lack of purple paint. Would it be a stretch to replace the purple with pink or something? And just paint all the vehicles black with a smidgen of purple and/or pink?>>98026476Agreed
>>98026276All of them.
guys you told me that the new custodes aren't substentialy smaller, then the old ones. And I just build my first venetari , and they are the size of SoB, their weapons both the lances and the misericordia are super small.
>>98026545Serves you right for believing lying trannies. Now awoo with your xisters
>>98026716omg slay kween........
>>98026545Do any of the new kits come with a sheathed or loose (no hands on it) sentinel blade?
>>98026916No idea. the Venetari have open hands and have hands for holding the shields for pistol/shield guys, and it is really easy to make those in to a fist, just fill the small hole and remove the strap with hobby knife.Also somehow, I do not know why, the mold lines on the new custodes are crazy. Much worse then the old chunkstodes. and going through some crazy places like middle of a small eagle on a bend knee. How am I suppose to remove that ? I swear to you the venetari look like SCE "wing" boys/girls, especialy now that they got rid of the wings on the shins. In general everything got smaller, leaner, overloaded with detail on top of detail, on top of mold lines. The old custodes were so easy to paint, the new shoulder pads are some sort of horror for old painters.
>>98026916No loose Sentinel Blades, only six sheathed Misericordias. There's an alternate grip for the one holding a Vexilla.>>98027082The worst part of these models, in my opinion - would be the plumes; as the collar makes for a deceptively deep recess for the head to slot into, these especially feel like you get a lot less articulation because of them by getting in the way. Not to mention an even more fickle connection to the helmet.
I had never noticed that the Lil Horus Aximand mini didn't have the cables over the powerpack connector. Seems to be the space for it, plus the powerpack details also leave space for it.Are the powerpack connectors (pile shaped on plastic marines) different on FW minis?
>>98026545>he fell for it
>>98027171Did some looking around, and it's not the most consistent. Apothecaries use the pill system, same for loyalist champion, however the DG praetor has it be a flat cut into the plug, which seems a tad retarded. EC praetor uses the pill too. Then you get shit like Hibou khan where half the powerpack is with the torso into one piece.To note as well: the back of lil horus is notably "thinner" than other armors to give space for the cables going from the sides to the back, it does give the armor a more sophisticated/form fitting look.TL,DR: I am not so confident anymore that this is numk4. Would be very sad if it wasn't since the person who sculpted the character went above and beyond.
>>98027171>What is artificer armour
>>98027474You know you've made it on 4chan when you get a specific bait just for you
