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>>98035504>Will do, ill prob post it when the next thread startsdew it
You will post it
>>98036906>abandonned
Reposting my ayyylmao OC from last thread
we need more survival horror cyoa
>>98036956Doesn’t appeal to the power fantasists.
>>98037013who cares about houndlets
>>98036940sorry buddy, I missed this or I would have put it in the OP. My bad!>>98036956True
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>>98036956Danmachi is kind of like a survival horror cyoa if you think about it.
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>>98037037You should post it
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>>98037037Will you SHUT UP AAAGGHHHH
>>98037062gottem
>>98037017It's all Gucci my man it's a shitpost I made while I was bored at work.
I wanna post my build for this.
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>>98037183I hope it's deeper than "I want to FUCK Verdict/Viper/Ruin!".
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>>98037192It's not super elaborate, but it isn't carnally motivated.
>>98037183The build. That's all folks.
>>98037202>-but it isn't carnally motivated.Damn it. Congrats on finishing the mystery game anyway.
>>98037183>>98037188>>98037193I am glad that someone else independently came to the realization that Stag is not dead.Sad that no one else realizes that Dove's the one that cut her in half.
>>98037263You are absurd. Justify yourself.
>>98037263>I am glad that someone else independently came to the realization that Stag is not dead.Anon the second goddess talk about Stag basically doing research on faking her death, that's not an obscure theory.
>>98037270Here's my reasoning from the thread this released in.
>>98037307Some people are focused on Dommy Lion and her godkiller weapons.
>>98037307She speaks of research into suicides, specifically. I'm sure it's not hard to see it between the lines, but still for a cyoa that says not to look into it, there's a compelling little narrative in there.
>>98037318THE godkiller weapon. There is one missing, so if that's the correct route Stag was killed with it.
>>98037311shedding the parasite?? what is happening
>>98037368She is becoming something more.
>>98036267>Garbage>>98036873>>98036876>>98036880>AI slop>>98036940>Meme slop>>98037017>Badly formatted slop CYOA with reused images and no immortality and a bad image to text ratioWhere are the good CYOAs?
>>98037789Over yonder >>98027932
>>98037809>Trashy memeslop>>98037183>AI Slop>>98037063>Mixed art with a bad image to text ratioReddit did better, pic realted
>>98037829Were you always this bitter, tok?>one (something) from any piece of mediaI know you like this, you keep doing it in your own cyoas too, but don't you feel it's lame to send the player on a wikihunt for the power/item/companion that's closest to omnipotence? It's lame, and all cyoas that do this converge into the same cyoa.
>gov-funded Blackrock School of Dungeoneering>openly offers demonology as one of its coursesReally gets the noggin' joggin'
>>98037858>Were you always this bitter, tok?I'm not bitter, just disappointed the quality of CYOAs has taken a nosedive. >I know you like this, you keep doing it in your own cyoas too, but don't you feel it's lame to send the player on a wikihunt for the power/item/companion that's closest to omnipotence?The CYOA says you get a single superpower and omnipotence is not a single superpower, it is all of them. So you cannot choose it because of RAW. The CYOA also balances itself by having the setting you get isekai'd to becoming a mix of the settings you choose things from. And almost all settings are balanced by their original creators so if there are OP powers then chances are there are others with OP powers in that universe.
>>98037891>The CYOA says you get a single superpower and omnipotence is not a single superpower, it is all of them. By your logic, shooting spiderman's threads is also not a single superpower, it combines shooting spiderman's threads on mondays and shooting spiderman's threads on non-mondays. Then nothing is a "single superpower". Your standard of discreteness of superpowers is incoherent.
>>98037829>whines about cyoas being bad>posts reddit sloppa that's barely even a cyoa
>OC At least i think its OC, its a collage made of multiple other CYOAs so im not sure if it counts. Hope you guys like it.credit goes to:>Blood magic>Summoner>Supernatural dept collector>Metropolis>Urban Phantom>City incarnateFurthermore, I consider that tok must be destroyed.
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>>98037924>>98037929>A mix of random sections from different CYOAs compiled into a single Frankenstein CYOAWhat an absolute garbage CYOA. Each CYOA is made with a specific vision in mind. Similar to how a series of films or books are made. If a CYOA, movie or book does not have a single vision, it becomes chaotic and will collapse. An example of this are the Star Wars Disney sequels. Each movie is improvised and directed by different directors, with not a single red thread connecting them all. This is what this CYOA is. And because of the mixed sections, the art style is mixed too. Truly a shameless CYOA, for the "creator" of this CYOA did not do any work himself, he just mixed sections from real CYOA authors and called it his own. Truly dispicable.
>>98037924https://imgchest.com/p/92495mbgayn
>>98037924This is not original content, so I don't think it counts as ocIt also adds nothing substantially new, which is technically seperate
>>98037949Then just dont play it nigga, yall just cant fathom someone creating something that hasnt been done before.
>>98037924This is a first of its kind. I have seen meta CYOAs but never a collage of CYOAs. Strange, very strange. I'm not sure what to make of it. I recognize all of the individual sections from their original sources but seeing them out of context is bizarre. This was a very novel, very unexpected, arguably provocative experiment. Even so, I hope you make your own CYOAs in the future.Tokhaar Delenda Est.
>>98037924I think this is a really cool idea. You took the thematic coherence route - it seems like you could basically either do that or draw on a bunch of stuff (probably mostly CYOAs that are not internally consistent or offer diverse options, like a lot of planeswalking ones) and serve up a real smorgasbord. To me your sources all work pretty well together, at least with the sections you chose and their general mood. It is original content in a way, but it would be classy of you to find some space at the beginning or end to credit the authors you cribbed these things from. The jury's still out on whether your novel combination is a good CYOA. based purely on this controversy it reminds me of pic related. I will try to make a build before I collapse>>98037949no need to be mean. Intellectual property is fakery and that's doubly true for CYOAs. 90% are already carbon copies of each other or media, myth, whatever. Anyone who doesn't draw or generate art for their OC is typically borrowing something essential from another artist without permission. I agree it would be better to rewrite and share one's own take on an existing work than just to copy pieces, but I think it's possible both can be done in interesting ways, and of course more original CYOAs will always be the gold standard
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>>98037970Bro wasn't around for OC wasteland?
>>98038023>No need to be mean.Saying that the sky is blue and calling a man who pretends to be a woman a man is not mean. It is saying the truth, and that is what I did.>Intellectual property is fakery and that's doubly true for CYOAs.I don't know what that has to do with anything that I just said.>90% are already carbon copies of each other or media, myth, whatever.There is a world of difference between copying something and taking inspiration from something. >Anyone who doesn't draw or generate art for their OC is typically borrowing something essential from another artist without permission.Again, this has nothing to do with anything I said.>I agree it would be better to rewrite and share one's own take on an existing work than just to copy pieces, but I think it's possible both can be done in interesting ways, and of course more original CYOAs will always be the gold standardSo what you are saying is that you agree with me. A CYOA that is original and created under the vision of a single author is superior to a Frankenstein CYOA that is just a mix of sections from already existing CYOAs. So why settle for mixed slop when you can have an entirely new and original CYOA? Sylen took inspiration from my World of Whorecraft CYOA and created his World of Warcraft CYOA, and I in turn, took inspiration from all the flaws Nikten's Whorecraft CYOA. Now imagine if both me and Sylen would have just taken random sections from random CYOAs instead and called it a day. Then the slave system that I invented and was futher built upon by Sylen would not have existed and inspired many more lewd CYOAs. Stealing sections from REAL CYOA authors and slapping them together is not innovation, it is lazy and uncreative. Creating something new is creative. Just think about what would happen if mix slop would get more popular than REAL OC. Then the general would eventually die because no one makes anything new, everyone just copies and mixes existing stuff.
>>98038112>Saying that the sky is blueThis was one favorite phrase of materjeet. ... tok was materjeet all along?
>>98037924>Internal Call>Shahubaths>Banshee>Screamer>Nolgor>Sixth Sense 2>Spirit Channeling 1>Retrocognition 2>Transvection 1>Reporter>Hiker>Collector>Bronze Hatchet>Skeleton Key>Sturdy BootsI like some of the small changes you made, like the picture for Bronze Hatchet or flavor text here and there. I don't think the constituent parts of this (while "appropriate" for each other) have enough synergy to justify their combination. again, it's a cool idea that you should keep working on, but in the meantime you should use this as a springboard to come up with your own settings and so on. You are clearly capable of it. something cool might be for you to write a lot of OC yourself with an eye to a later project using them in your "collage". that way you could standardize them somewhat and limit the inconsistency in voice or art. I'm envisioning something kind of like Scottish's series of CYOAs, but mixing and matching options between them>>98038112Taking art from a stranger to use in your OC is something very similar to what you're putting down. This whole medium is largely copied and pasted to this day - even more so back in the days of pills and genies. There's nothing inherently wrong with it and we should try to encourage people either to do it creatively or see it as a prelude/practice to work that is unambiguously theirs. This one happens to be a little more egregious than most examples but it still puts something new forward. All this stuff gets into the weeds in a way that makes it hard to write or talk about. I do agree that "the more original, the better", but I guess I would question whether it's right to end that at direct plagiarism. the grim prophecy you outline there has already come to pass. A huge amount of CYOAs are essentially the same in their settings, layouts, art, etc., or rely heavily on tropes that are beyond tired. I'm not ragging on them, I still love many, but let's be real. Look at your own oeuvre for Christ's sake
>>98037829Mixed art with bad image to text ratio is fine. There's been some great CYOAs with this flaw. It is a flaw, but not every CYOA author gives a shit about making their CYOA look good.AI art I'm in two minds about. Conceptually I don't have any issue with it, but in terms of execution AI art still isn't there yet. It's a lot better than it was two years ago tho, which is when I was shitting all over it.>memeslopHave you considered that maybe you've just aged out of 4chan?
>>98038188>Taking art from a stranger to use in your OC is something very similar to what you're putting down.This is a statement; now explain why your statement is true.>This whole medium is largely copied and pasted to this day - even more so back in the days of pills and genies.False, the vast majority of CYOAs are original works. For example, let's take Star Wars as an example. There are tons of Star Wars CYOAs, and each of them is different. Just because a movie or a CYOA cointains the same characters does not mean it is a copy. Just look at the Star Wars prequels and compare them to the Clone Wars series. Both contain pretty much the same characters, but they are explored differently. In the Clone Wars, Anakin is more of a teacher and presented in a much warmer light than he is in the prequels. While in the prequels, his darker side and eventual fall are much more in focus. There are a bunch of Star Wars jedi CYOAs that focus on the power fantasy of being a jedi but also Star Wars Warlord CYOAs that focus more on the war aspect of star wars. These CYOAs are not the same, they are set in the same universe, but the adventures you are presented with are entirely different even in CYOAs that approach the same theme like Jedi CYOAs, which are way different from each other. Some are set in the old republic and some are set in Empire times, which changes the entire feel of the CYOA.> I do agree that "the more original, the better", but I guess I would question whether it's right to end that at direct plagiarism. the grim prophecy you outline there has already come to pass. A huge amount of CYOAs are essentially the same in their settings, layouts, art, etc., or rely heavily on tropes that are beyond tired. I'm not ragging on them, I still love many, but let's be real. Look at your own oeuvre for Christ's sakeTaking inspiration from something and copying something are NOT the same thing. You keep conflating these two concepts with each other.
>>98038188>Taking art from a stranger to use in your OC is something very similar to what you're putting down.This is completely different. How are you even comparing the two?
>>98038188>Taking art from a stranger to use in your OC is something very similar to what you're putting down.The following comparison is more in line with what is happening. >CYOA author steals images and uses them in his CYOA.>Book author steals an image and uses it as cover art for his book.
>>98038188>Taking art from a stranger to use in your OC is something very similar to what you're putting downNo?Tok is babbling, and is full of shit, but no. Art is copied to illustrate the options and the options are the actual meat of the cyoaThe theft is only used within the realm of graphic design, which is distinct from the choice design
>>98038223>>98038240>>98038263>>98038266>t. ok
See? This is why tok must be destroyed.
Why is niggertok acting like his last cyoas didn't have a shit ton of mixed art? not to mention they were all garbage.
h-hewo?
>>98037949Bullshit, it's interesting if only because I don't think anyone's fuckin thought of doing a CYOA collage before. The fact they're obliterating singular artistic vision and giving it new meaning by placing it in new contexts is what makes it interesting. Read more Borges, specifically Pierre Menard, author of Don Quixote. And take a look at actual artistic collages like those of the Dada movement.
>>98038558Hi.
Damn sorry fellas, I burnt out making my OC, you won't be recieving a giga nigga CYOA that would ahve ruined cyoag forever with how much of a masterpiece it was. Shame.
>>98038575You have more chances of ushering cyoag into a new golden age than convincing tok to read anything that isn't pornography.
>>98038589Don't worry my fellow CYOA comrades, I am making great progress on my thread-destroying CYOA which everyone will love and engross themselves in, so you shall not go unfed
>>98038589giggity
>>98038558wassup
>>98037924I don’t know what to think of this.
It was a troll oc all along lmao
>>98038657Then just try it and make up your mind afterwards
>>98037924>Cyoa authors have lost ALL creativity and began cannibalising old workslmao, poety, it's videogame remasters all over again. I'm so glad I get to experience first hand the death and desecration of all the things I love for a second time. Thank you God for granting me this place in eternal Hell.
>>98038707Reminds me of AI. “I made this”. Actually you didn’t. It was made using data collected from actual artists and you used a tool to rape it into a monstrosity. AI is only good for turning paintings into Harry Potter paintings (Mona Lisa stop winking at me).
>>98038717>AI is only good for turning paintings into Harry Potter paintings (Mona Lisa stop winking at me).This is legit the only thing that amuses me when it comes to AI. Turning art into a portal to another world. I always wonder what a piece of art could extend off into. But that’s basically just daydreaming.
>>98038717Imagine a harry potter painting of a woman made with cum pigment, haha, just randomly thought of that just now, wouldnt that be funny, haha
>>98038726A cyoag-goer?Daydreaming????Preposterous.
intellectual propiety is gay
>>98038849Can we do intellectual property together then?
