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Viltspite edition

>Previously in the Mortal Realms:
>>98026820

>Official AoS website:
https://www.ageofsigmar.com

>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/

>Tools
https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/

>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:
https://aosg.github.io/

https://sigdex.io/

>Thread question:
Will (you) use a cogfort?
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>TQ
For my army (and potential armies)? Probably not. I havent read the rules fully but it seems like its more at home in destruction/chaos armies than in order itself hilariously.
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>>98042126
>Will (you) use a cogfort?

Damn straight, I've got my kitbash planned ahead of time. I'll be postin' WIP's in 2 weeks!
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>>98042126
>no spiderfang even in meme fanart
it's actually over
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I'm looking to source a bunch of these Lumineth shields for a conversion project. Any reliable bits sellers or even STLs out there? Or at least something similar.
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>TQ

If I don't get one, I'm going to get prolapse'd by the one my opponent brought. It's going to be a staple in every army it feels like.
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>>98042222
Alas the usual joint I get my stl's from has literally nothing for lumineth.

>>98042224
Is that what it was like when Mega-gargs launched?
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>>98042224
How many wounds has it got? What save?
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As someone who is just now getting into AoS, what makes people so convinced cogforts will be an auto-include for everyone?

I ask this as someone coming from 40k where they look like they have a similar role to imperial knights, and you rarely see imperial knights outside their own army.
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>>98042255
The pitch for them is that everyone can have them, so they think they will do that. They also think they need to give overpowered rules to justify its cost. Honestly they look alright, the krondspine was a MUCH worse implementation than what i've seen of the cogfort so far.
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>>98042255
I don't think they will be an auto-include but to run devil's advocate knights were very popular and strong to run in other armies soon after their release, and have at times dominated the 40k meta. And knights cannot transport other units and give them a +1 damage buff when they drop them off.
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>>98042255
I imagine because a big shooty thing with various boosts / transport capability is a pretty generally useful thing especially if it has a shit ton of wounds and high save. Realistically the first though I have when anything comes out is "how is someone gonna abuse this" and having some shit like +1 damage on popping out is something easily abused.
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>>98042222
you can get 8 for $9 (plus shipping) on ebay
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>>98042267
The fact you need to make a 9" long bomb charge on a unit that only appears in the charge phase will limit its abusability somewhat but +1 damage does totally change the equation on a lot of melee units. Like just speaking about a few different armies DoK can get charge rerolls but it might be a bit awkward to set up because it needs to be a multi-charge, Lumineth can get flat bonuses to run and charge rolls, StD can just straight up roll 3d6 on a charge by pledging to Slaanesh.

It'll depend on points cost too. The shooting on both versions seems decent but not amazing, but the flamethrower one can spike pretty hard. Some armies might just want that.
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>>98042301
Let's not forget everyone's favorite infantry unit: Morghasts. Literally launch em out like a missle.
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>>98042301
>The shooting on both versions seems decent but not amazing

I'm betting cities will be able to buff its shooting a bit better than the RoR versions
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>>98042126
The skull being his staff is actually 10/10 sovl
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>>98042249
>Is that what it was like when Mega-gargs launched?
No. Megas weren't good until 3e
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>This 146 page book contains:
>A beautifully illustrated map of Carngrad.
Hilariously/frustratingly it seems they forgot to include the "beautifully illustrated map of Carngrad" in Carngrad Adventures. The book itself references it but it's literally not in there.
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>>98042522
No way, no map at all?
Hilarious if true. Everything soulbound seems to be a giant mess behind the scenes.
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Supposedly the command corps is getting split into two or three units, whih is fairly interesting. Have they ever done something like this before?
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>>98042597
Yes. Radukar's Court. It was 1 unit of like 10-15 diferent guys on releas, only to get separate ponts for all the heroes and monsters in it
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>>98042597
Sucks if true because I mean it just means it's getting squatted next time around and it's a cool unit.
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>>98042631
Why the fuck would they randomly squat it?
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>>98042674
Death demands its toll.
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>>98042689
The command corps wasn't made to sell random old grave guard and black knight stock though
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>>98042545
I can't remember if it was Blackened Earth or Champions of Chaos, but I'm pretty sure one of those didn't have its map included on release either. It's not the first time this has happened. Kinda funny.
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>>98042126
>TQ
No. The Kurnothi would never use something so crude and damaging to the environment as a cogfort!
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>>98042597
Hopefully the Gobbapalooza gets the same treatment, they've always been terrible mechanically either broken or too weak. I'd much rather have 6 interesting heroes and use the leftovers I don't run for conversions
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>>98042786
Worst ritualposter
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>>98042786
I like the centaurs but I would never buy that overpriced piece of shit spitewood just to get them. 3 for 67 euro is crazy.
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>>98042126
>TQ
I'll be using parts of it for AoA warmachines and characters but the main piece will just be terrain or something. The idea of transporting and fielding it isn't appealing at all. Reminds me of the fags who put gooner anime figures on the table as proxies
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>>98042788
IMO yes, BUT, if you take the entire unit, it's a discount. Like 50 points per model individually or 200 for the 5
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>>98042788
I would say that they should be a 3man unit with 2 alt models for existing heroes but sheer value of that box would give GW a stroke.
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So what's the verdict on the cos tome from what we know so far? Nighthaunt writer or lumineth writer?
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>>98042126
>Will (you) use a cogfort?
I don't know. A Leviadon is 450 points. Are two cogforts better than a Leviadon?
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>>98042870
One of the main draws of the cogfort is being able to sling infantry out of it with a +1 to damage
Unfortunately idoneth isn't exactly excelling on the infantry front
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>>98042862
It looks more likely to be the Lumie.
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>>98042870
Based conversion.
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>idoneth cogfort

>>98042878
I haven't seen the full rules for it yet but just from the preview my checklist is:
>is the cogfort faster than your infantry
>are your infantry fragile
>can your infantry cheat at charges in the charge phase
>how much do your infantry benefit from +1D
>how useful is shooting that can wipe out a chaff unit to you
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>I got the reference
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>>98043004
Tigrex is one of the more popular MH schemes for some reason
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>>98043030
its greymon, not the tigrex
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>>98043030
It's Digimon
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>>98043036
>>98043072
fuck it, close enough
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>>98043004
The headpiece is cool, might steal that idea
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/m2dw9uao/cities-of-sigmar-rules-new-units/
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>>98043143
>Reikenorian candle
MISTER NAGASH GET DOWN THERE'S PLAGIARISM INCOMING
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>>98042126
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWZKsi9p15A&t=1704s

Needs a sigmar edit
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I'm sorry anon, it's a bin guy book.
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>>98043163
Every turn you are basically giving orders to the part of your army you actually want to go and kill things.
Getting real tired of their bullshit 'nooooo not ALL of your army can have fun special rules'
This is just once per turn army wearing a different trenchcoat.
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>you're telling me a unit has to be visible, within 12" and I have to hit it twice with a spell in return for a flat 3 damage ignoring all saves AND it only works once?
>SOVL, sign me up!
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>>98043143
What is the totem on this guy supposed to be anyway? A monkey?
>gallants 130
>grenadiers 140
>death mage 110
>fiee mage 100
Is it just me or do gallants feel kind of outclassed by grenadiers?
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>a significant offensive buff I could definitely work with if I could plan around?
>make that within 6" and give it a 66% chance of working and we're done here

>>98043180
I can't stand making abilities unreliable or dependent on more than 1 conditional when the juice just isn't work the squeeze. Some of these are cool, but just make them Just Fucking Work like the death guy.
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>>98042870
cogforts being available to all races is way to meme tier to me. I know they did it to sell models but it's just dumb fro the reason your pic illustrates- Idoneth and plenty of other races already have a superheavy.
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>>98043192
Gallants just seem poorly thought out. I'm assuming they are 2w 3+ save which just isn't survivable vs. anything that would actually want to attack them. They should have debuffed the enemy instead of buffing themselves.
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>>98043209
Bro a reinforced squad on an objective protecting auto take black woman will do work. Throw in priest man to give the objective a 5+ ward. That's probably a 600 point package you waddle from objective to objective.
Throw in a cogfort and like 500 points of other shooting. Jobs done
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>>98043231
>auto take black woman will do work
We actually don't know the real Zenestra's race.
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>>98043143
The army looks so good but all that trim and sheit would drive me to suicide.
Best of luck to whoever buys and paints that shit up. You deserve broken rules for enduring that hell (no idea if the rules are broken)
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>>98043233
Lmao ok bro keep telling yourself that
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>>98043256
No, really. The character is the skeleton unless they changed the lore.
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>>98043233
zenestra is not a wight doing blackface dude
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>>98043143
if regular humans can be 3 attacks with damage 2 and rend 2, why does sigmar even bother making stormcast?
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>>98043380
The Mallus Industrial Complex needs to sell its sigmarite to SOMEONE
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>>98043372
Did they rewrite the lore? Seemed extremely explicit she was the skeleton, the woman was the illusion, her litter bearers die unnaturally fast, blows just seem to pass through her, she even ditched out on her cult when they got to embergard which she already had some kind of ancient connection to, no? Was there some retcon of all this? They basically all but called her a lich in the stuff up to 4e.
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>>98043409
It's like Morathi, next edition you'll get to run the black woman AND the skeleton as seperate units.
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>>98043183
Holy shit that's fantastic, anytime I get to allocate wounds you better believe I'm doing it. (Also helps the model is sick. Cities wizards are fuckin' great.
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>>98042789
We've had far worse, anon.
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>>98043409
>They basically all but called her a lich in the stuff up to 4e.
No they did not. At all. In the slightest.
Source: I'm one of the few who ever read the Dawnbringers books.
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>>98043447
O! Can you tell me any fun bits from those or recommend them? I've been trying to find some good AoS books and it's really hard when I want them based on the bad guy factions but GW does that annoying normal guy perspective.
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>>98043447
You don't seem to be telling me they rewrote or retconned anything though, so presumably all that shit is still true and you're just a weird little freak about it.
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>>98042862
Nh writer isn't just bad but the tome was also spite. Probably same cunt that nerfed aux units and chodetec after he got stomped in a tourney by them. I don't think there's anyone left on the aos team that enjoys death armies aside from matt and his fec.
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>>98043467
tbf nighthaunt players being perpetually tormented and tortured is fitting for the faction.
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>>98043441
I kinda miss the shaerkposts
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>>98043409
>Did they rewrite the lore?
Why do you think she would wear random blackface as an illusion instead of an illusion of her living self?

Are you dumb or just desperately trying to cope with a bad looking model?
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>>98043486
Obviously because of the Cities of Sigmar's numerous affirmative action and diversity equality and inclusion initiatives.
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Erasmus can literally just mulch some shitty endless spell with a +2 to intervention and fart out a krondspine, what the absolute fuck.
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>>98043585
Nice to see some nurgling bits with this guy, all the new nurgle stuff outside of Festus I don't recall seeing a single nurgling.
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>>98043209

They talk about steelhelms being able to "force" the enemy to attack them, so it seems like they expect you to scream most of your important units with them in the new army book
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>>98043629
looks like an old coworker of mine
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>>98043611
Yeah that auto-summon on banishment is crazy work. You just don't cast endless spells into him imo.
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>>98043629
oh is that the nipslip people were talking about a thread ago?
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>>98043720
It's a dude so who cares
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>>98043764
...that's a dude?
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Cogfort confirmed at 160 base, for those still wondering
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>>98043794
yipeeeee
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Anyone got a Carngrad Adventures pdf?
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>>98042545
Tbf they're in a bad spot with how often GW fundamentally changes the AoS setting and they have to rush to keep up with it for a game that clearly none of them want to make but they're contractually obligated to.
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>>98043455
>ecommend them?
I do not.

>t's really hard when I want them based on the bad guy factions
I've read a ton of AoS stories and I'd recommend:
Scourge of Fate
Abraxia: Spear of the Everchosen
The Garden of Mortal Delights
Blood of the Flayer
Neferata: The Dominion of Bones
Nagash: The Undying King

The Gates of Dawn, War in the Hidden Vale and The Wardens of the Everqueen also have significant amounts of page space dedicated to the villains and are actually quite good as well.
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>>98043869
Ironically AOS has the opposite problem of 40k where things actually happen here as opposed to remaining perpetually stagnant.
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>>98043906
Thanks for the list, I will say I'm perpetually bummed that Chaos usually get the bad guys perspective stuff as opposed to Destro or Death. (Death has it better than destro though, except that god awful ush book.)

I'm hoping these chaos books are a bit less samey than some of the fantasy ones. I finally finished that garbo archaon trilogy and need anything less trashy.
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>>98043917
Abraxia is an interesting look into a character I hated when I started and ended up loving by the end. Scourge of Fate is simply a fantastic story that delves into Chaos in a great way.
Garden of Mortal Delights is a great fun short story. The Nagash and Neferata books are peak ott fantasy and a fun read.
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>>98043851
The one anon posting art probably got it
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>>98043611
>powerful named wizard can do a cool unique thing thats also strong

good.

we need to see more of that. no more skragrotts and gobsprakks where the faction leader named sorcerer supreme is so fucking bad you'd never take them and they're outclassed in their own battletome by their armies basic wizards

gobsprakk supposedly bested a fucking lord of change and carries his hand around nailed to a staff, yet on his warscroll he can barely cast a spell
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>>98044136
Gobksprakk is so god damn cool, it is a real shame how he basically does dickall.
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>>98043200
>idoneth and plenty of other races already have a superheavy.
are there any factions without a superheavy? Like no 150$ model?
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>>98043907
The setting should be stagnant as it's supposed to be a setting for people to have their own stories and campaigns in. Expansions on the story should be exploring new areas in more detail.

>>98044136
Unique characters shouldn't be something that armies take because the game should be about your dudes.
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both forts are 25 health
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>>98044136
I would say he is almost there. His passive anticaster, his opb ability works with his passive, his spell works with his faction and KB has a way to boost casting rolls. He is no Skumdrekk
Too bad he has no passive bonus to casting and only once does he have something to aid his dispel
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>>98044270
>>98044264
Holy fucking shit, these things have gotta cost like 600 or some shit right? even more...?
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ROR
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the other ROR

>>98044273
you can take 4 in a list, so theyre 500p max
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WHEW, gate gargs are looking fucking fantastic. I'm assuming it's 2 models so you get 2 of these profiles. That shit's gonna blend anyone it gets close to.
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>>98044307
Nifty layout
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>>98043794
welcome back soul grinder
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>>98044264
>Leaks
So are there any Fantasy era models left other than the luminark?
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>>98044324
no
theres this instead
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>command corps split into random units of 2-3 instead of individually
Why even bother
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>>98044264
Honestly seems somewhat prone to getting tarpitted by a unit of clanrats or gits
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>>98044339
>they turned my random bullshit squad into unique units
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>>98044334
wow its an abject insult to cities of sigmar. Fucking GW execs deserve to have their families truck of peaced.
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>>98044334
Eh. It's a clunky solution to a self-inflicted problem, but I suppose it's far preferable to not having any option of combining GA armies.
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>>98044347
it can retreat and shoot
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>>98044334
Kinda neat, I hope this is a bit of a preview for next edition bringing back shit like legions of Nagash or OG grand alliance ally stuff.
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>>98044334

Are they only for a certain army of renown or able to be taken in any CoS list?
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>>98044278
For a second there I missed fec and I was about to pour one out for ghoulfort poster
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>>98044255
>Unique characters shouldn't be something that armies take because the game should be about your dudes.

this has never once been the theme or vibe or age of sigmar. age of sigmar has always had a huge focus on the big narrative characters.

if you want your game focused on small time local captains and warbosses old world is mroe your speed
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>>98044366
I have cities stuff too, at this point i'd be so far into the concept of ghoul fort that I'd have done it regardless.

Thank fucking god they didn't shaft me on this though.
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album here
adding more as i find it

https://imgur.com/a/Jwfn4jP
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>>98044264
Are steam tanks gone?
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>>98044386
no they got a new model (the cogforts)
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>>98044386
Yes. All soul is gone. Its (inner) cities of shieeeetmar now. Potatocore straight outta the ghetto.
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>>98044377
You planning on doing the flamethrower or cannon version ghoulanon?
Also here's vedra
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>>98044404
Gonna see if I can get my shit together enough to magnetize it, I want the flamethrower to have the hanging livestock from my leftover mancrusher sprue and the cannon to have a giant skull or severed head stuck to the front. I've basically got an old cookie bucket filled to the brim with all the bits and ghouls and other shit I'm gonna shove onto it.
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>>98044353
It's one thing to pair the arch knight with the banner bearer and gargoylian but the priest and surgeon being paired is just weird
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Do you have the grenadier datasheet?
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>>98044334
>Erasmus and allied vanari
Throw in Ellania and Ellathor and you'd have a really thematic Settler's Gain army
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>>98044443
seems like it's gonna be basically the same as the spearhead based on the article.
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>>98044441
I mean it makes sense kinda...

So are these like foot heroes or like standard infantry with weird counts
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>>98044448
these guys are insane

4 damage per model, so 82 damage reinforced
give them +1 attack they go up to 122 damage max
its on 4+/4+ but you give them crit mortals from a warforger and then they just kill anything
and then they teleport out of combat with the new ranger guy
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>>98044307
Guy editing the page had fun with the textbox placement
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>>98044441
>the priest and surgeon being paired is just weird
The surgeon tries to save you but if he can't the priest gives you your last rites
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Man cities getting all this cool shit, and fun rules really makes me feel bad for any of the 1st year launch battletomes.
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>>98044307
>layout
lel
>>98044465
Welcome Cities of Sigmar Command Corps to the 3+ warscrolls in a single box club.
What does a command corps cost in points now anyways?
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>Inexperienced, only 1-2 games under my belt
>Want to play a 1.5k game with dude at my LGS who is also inexperienced
>Bring my kruleboyz, made entirely from starter set chaff and the magazines
>This nigga brings A WHOLE KAIROS FATEWEAVER to the table
>Corners me after casting "fuck you die" on my skumdrekk and killaboss
>"Yeah man maybe you should bring a centerpiece like kragnos next time :/"
In retrospect I should've expected this he brought 3 greater daemons to a 1k crusade game.
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>>98044512
My first game that was supposed to be a "practice game" the dude brought a fucking tourney list slaanesh force painted white, with a black wash and red eyes to match the 3 color standard.

I put my guys down and he just goes "you've already lost" he then proceeds to absolutely reem me and not explain what the fuck is happening or fix any mistakes i'm making. We ended the game with him saying "You should have read the rules closer."
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>>98044524
Is this the one where you end up buying his army when he inevitably put it on ebay
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>>98044465
>performs successful surgery
or
>arranges your funeral
kek
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>>98044535
Kinda, found the entire army sold at one of the game shops outside of the cities a bit and bought a couple of the foot heroes. Was a shitty way to get into this but I've stuck it out and am all in on things. AND HERE I AM A YEAR LATER.
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>>98042522
>>98042545
Soulbound is also the same series that refers to basic Khorne Bloodbound units as if they were Subfactions, I'm not surprised
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>>98044512
Sounds like you did bring a centerpiece model.
Must be a skill issue.
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this is overpowered as fuck
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are there full scans of the tzeentch, obr, lumineth, DOK, sylvaneth books yet?
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>>98044465
this is what they should do with the gobapalooza again. break it apart into 5 separate wizards and priests
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>>98042126
>TQ
dunno the price is high and while I have a conversion idea I'' either wait for second hand market. Or some 3d proxys. Speaking of proxys
>remember some good fantasy stl's on kemono
>Go to kemono
>Kemono is so rotten that it doesn't even download zip. files anymore
This is why you downlad as soon as you get the chance kids.
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Finally finished my first Blood Knight. These fuckers are a nightmare to paint. Happy with the results though
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>>98044274
>>98044278
the merc one not being able to boost to 10" movement is a pretty big deal
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>>98044671
the flamethrower merc is a trap unless you have something like 3d6 charges

the cannon merc is insanely good. you can pick your best unit and make it immune to enemy shooting lol
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>>98044347
These >>98044307 would let a cogfort stuck in a tarpit retreat and shoot.
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>>98044444
Checked.
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>>98044608
Oh shit they taught the steelhelms Taunt
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>Cogforts 160 points
Wel, silly mistake on my part here
>>98042870
So is a Leviadon better than THREE Cogforts?
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>>98044729
>>Cogforts 160 points
If this was 40k they would be
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>>98044680
>can pick itself to be immune to shooting permanently
this is so stupid
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>>98044379
Thanks. Album name is already making discord trannies, faggots and nog cock gobblers seethe. Doing sugmars work.
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>>98044729
160 is the base size
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>>98044334
>>98044362
40k has tons of detachments that allow for MASH UP armies like FINAL DAY or BROOD BROTHERS or Wackity smackity doo.

And you have Tau with their allies like Gay vesa, Kroot, Vespids. Or agents of the imperium. Or attaching Knights to every other imperial army. Or how all the chaos armies share units because GW was lazy where the fuck are my red butchers GW stop making jakhals. There's nothing really stopping gw from making something good except their desire to make crap.
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>>98044749
i think they might have confused $$$ with pts
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CoS book is gonna get so much errata nerfs I can feel it in my bones. That or make everything cost a shit load of points until they're more elite than Stormcast.
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The Corps split is good news for Warcry/Spearhead/UW abominations tbhon
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Glad to see the leaks are alive and well. Would someone post a full file of every page when they can?
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>>98044794
The mashup armies sound really fun. Kind of requires some dedication, but still.
>no barak thryng kharadron + khazalid AoR
Sigh...
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>>98044818

The grenadiers cost almost twice as much as steelhelms for the exact same defensive statline
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>>98044512
Lmao LOOOOOOOSSSEERRR
JK yeah that sucks don't play WAACfags
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>>98043409
CAH CAH CAH COPIUM
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>>98044358
Jesus Christ anon let's calm the fuck down
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>>98044902
I mean he's right, that's her lore
But I think it's also reasonable to assume her projection isn't just some random black grandma but probably just what she looked like in life
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>>98044840
age of sigmar lacking allies rules is particularly weird for the duardins when you consider all eldar can be souped together in one way or another (obviously more now since Harlequins lost their codex in 2023). GW didn't even try to soup them.
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>>98044608
>mfw the marshal tells me and the other shitkickers to get the attention of the varanguard
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>>98044775
post their salt, i want to laugh at them
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>>98045016
>which of these gutless followers of sigmar will bring me the favor of my patron god
>this mechanical monster of stone and steel with enough firepower to sunder a demi-god
>5 peasant conscripts with rusty shortswords
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>>98044984
>is so op he causes gw to remove allies in subsequent editions
Nothing personnel warmbloods
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>>98045016
>>98045083
As it's written I don't think it protects you from fight twice abilities if you clear the steelhelms with the first first, right? Forced targeting is always pretty strong though.
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>>98044608
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>>98044666
Very nice trips and very nice model
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>>98044984
they used to have decent ally rules, but they decided to axe it all in the name of competitive streamlining and """balance"""

there were also several outspoken aos talking heads against any form of allies who may have been heeded, like heywoah andd vince (not sure if honest wargamer had an opinion on allies one way or the other, i think he just prefers whatevers strong)

2e allies, grand alliance, and coalition you coul build damn near anything you could imagine. it really was the golden age of sigmar, horrible balance aside
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New skeletons from Duncan. Think they'll pair up well with existing SBGL models?
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>>98045257
>Deathreaper Games
>The Voidshadow Legion
Got that Aos naming scheme down.
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>>98045257
>from Duncan
He makes models now? I hopped off when he started shilling paints
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>>98045257
they dont really blow my hair back but they're okay. i always support more independent creators and competition entering the market, but the price has to be right. if its just GW prices i dont think it'll pass muster
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>>98045278
His paints are pretty damn good to be fair
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>>98045278
>i hopped off when a guy who's entire career is painting made his own brand of paints

lol what a take
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>>98045257
Buy an ad
Do look like fairly decent skellingmans
>>98045267
Thought about that too lel
Do idk for better or worse gw tends to go for more ostentatious shit than "void shadow" usually...
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>>98045278
His paints are almost universally better than the GW equivalents
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>>98045305
>>98045290
he just took the citadel range, copied its colors, and put them in better bottles with better consistency and easier to understand sorting at a better price.

it was a much in demand niche since GW cant be arsed to actually do proper quality control of its own paints, and as the former face of GW painting, he was the perfect guy to introduce such a range.

great move. honestly as a hobbyist who's been in the game for 25 years, i love that these days we're so spoiled for choice on great paint brands. when i first started it was like citadel, testors, and that was about it. some generic crafts acrylics but those were not formulated well for minis
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>>98045292
>i hoped off when a guy making tutorials strted using his renome to sell shit
Yes? Fairly normal thing to do if you don't want to get scammed by an eceleb
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>>98045329
the only scam in the painting scene is citadel themselves.

the former product designer in charge of the new pots even admitted in an interview that they knew they were defective and shipped them anyways because they had already tooled the design and didnt want to recall and remake them
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>>98045323
Some of them match better than others. I've noticed a few that aren't really even close and some that are virtually indistinguishable. Most are within 2-5% different though so pretty good all around.
My favorite so far is replacing Rakarth Flesh with Griffin Claw. Fuck GW whites and off whites.
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>>98045323
>put them in better bottles

Poor business practice. Imagine how much GW makes on people having to replace their spillt nuln oil. I doubt anyone has ever actually used an entire bottle of it.
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>>98045016
>join the dawnbringer crusade, villein!
>we will train you to be exactly annoying enough so you will be killed first, before the soldiers who can actually fight
>in this way you praise glorious Sigmar's name!
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>>98045376

Would it be lore accurate to just paint slurs all over my steelhelms shields
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>>98044368
AoS basically didn't have unique characters at the start and all the narrative stuff (the correct way to play the game) effectively excludes them, because Morathi fighting Archaon should be a one off big event not something that happens every week.

And yes, even in 'Matched Play' you should still be playing with the narrative in mind.
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>>98045323
>he just took the citadel range, copied its colors, and put them in better bottles with better consistency and easier to understand sorting at a better price
Most of them are of vastly superior quality and are actually usable unlike some of the outliers in GW range.
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>>98045083
>about to deal the killing blow to the vile mount of the sigmarite commander
>slaying a beast as ferocious as this manticore will surely draw the gorefather's gaze
>as I raise my axe I hear a shout in the distance
>>oi bloodboy your mum make that 'elmet for you? Pussyhole innit
>now have no choice but to rush them or the rest of the gorechosen will make fun of me
>meanwhile some fucking low rank bloodletter steals my kill
>mfw
I fucking HATE steelhelms man
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>>98045412
the narrative revolves entirely around morathi, archaon, arkhan, nagash, katakross, olynder, the various stormcast characters like C-prime and vandus and neave, skraggy, etc. every factions narrative is centered around their big guy, with only a few smaller exceptions like callis and toll, the van densts, drekki or neave and her companions. otherwise its always centered around the factions big bad at the time.

the only exception is when aos was fiiiiiiiiirst released in that clusterfuck at the beginning where the game didnt even have rules and barely had models, or armies that never got proper updates or new aos ranges like bonesplitters and beasts of chaos
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>don't know shit about AoS
can I make an army of goblins?
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>>98045467
ye
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>>98045474
hell yeah brother
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>prepainted minis incoming
ew
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>>98045486
I like the pre-painted terrain ttcombat does.
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>>98045467
You have no idea
>>98045486
Did I miss something
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>>98045257
Plastic?
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>>98045455
Yes the overall setting is held up by the god level characters, the stories are supposed to be your dudes with those unique characters as the backdrop you fucking retard.
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>>98045500
40k is getting prepainted terrain. Apparently some tech that lets them print designs on the sprues?
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>>98045394
I heard that 90% of steelhelms have neck tattoos and have been banned from stadiums for shouting nonce at the ref
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>>98045515
These in the trailer are 100% 3d printed, but I'm hoping it's plastic. Hopefully there will also be more elite looking skeletons revealed because these guys look roughly equal to our current skeletons. Some heavily armored Grave Guard in this aesthetic would be sick. I think there might also be a wight king in the reveal lineup.
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>>98045467
you're looking for gloomspite

gloomspite is an army comprised of 5 different sub-elements, all of which can be mixed and matched or run on their own

Moonclan: these are your main goblins. hordes of goblins with spears or bows, hidden suicide fanatics wielding high damage ball and chains that spin like dervishes, a healthy mix of shamanic wizards and goblin bosses on foot to command the hordes. moonclan units specialize in board control and cheap, numerous bodies

Squigs: the squigs, which have some crossover with moonclan, are an unpredictable semi-horde group of mini monster cavalry with random movement, extremely high damage, and cheap to medium cost bodies. they specialize in high impact high damage charges, often suicidal due to their lack of defense, but their damage is some of the highest in the game of any unit, particularly the boingrot bounders and squig herds.

spiderfang: fast skirmishy cavalry focused spider riders and monsters that mostly get maneuverability around terrain and advanced deployment options. medium to low damage and durability, but has some debuffs like movement speed halving at range. often undertuned on stats and overcosted, and the models are quite dated, the forgotten stepchild of the faction, they get neglected by the studio

troggoths: bruisers. big, tough, slow monsterous infantry with high damage, low speed, high durability, high cost, these are sledgehammers and anvils

gitmob: these are your need for speed ratfink hotrod goblins. incredibly fast with non random speed. cheap-ish, medium damage, and access to hit and run, makes them great for objectives, pinning, blocking, and skirmishing. wont win a prolonged fistfight but they can be anywhere they want in a hurry which is valuable for scoring, intercepting enemies, and hitting isolated targets. also has a moderately high damage medium cost artillery piece.
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>>98045453
>be me
>be bloodbound Mighty Lord
>see my Slaughterpriest get killed by Steelhelms
>laugh with my Deathbringer and Ritualistic Realmgorer
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>>98045526
>the stories are supposed to be your dudes with those unique characters as the backdrop
>almost every book that features them, battletome or novel, tells the story from the big leaders perspective

you know nothing about this game or its lore. go back to wfg or whatever hole you crawled out of
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Well, anon? Would you have played it?
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>>98045290
Holy shit imagine buying GW paints, but more expensive.
Literal retardation
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>>98045608
Yes that's the fucking point, the idea is you read the battletomes and use them as inspiration for your own dudes you fucking retard how are you not getting this.
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>>98045633
What is it
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>>98045635
>buying a slightly more expensive, higher quality paint in a better container
>retarded
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>>98045633
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This is the ideal Age of Sigmar vidya but only I have the scaleless eyes to see it.
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>>98045633
Honestly yeah, shame it got dropped. Same with the cancelled Warmachine action game that got changed into a subpar srpg.
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>charges in
>hits you
>teleports away before you can strike back


How powerful is this gonna be?

I
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>>98045679
It's obviously a pretty neat trick but the distances involved are pretty small. CoS is looking like a fun toolkit army.
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>>98045647
you cant even buy wargear for your characters. this is one of the least yourdudes friendly games there have ever been, second only to shit like privateer press or marvel where named characters are mandatory

the narrative doesnt promote yourdudes, the rules dont promote yourdudes, nothing about this game emphasizes your characters, even what few times they have actually incorporated a character builder, its sparse, usually removed from the game within a year or two of deployment, and never matched play legal.
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>>98045652
Cancelled aos mmo (?) made by nexon games, koreans whose most famous game is probably ...maplestory maybe?
Anyway probably wouldn't have been very good but they got far enough into development to have some gameplay footage floating around.
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>>98045695
I don't think GW has done anything to promote a /yourdudes/ mentality to the hobby since something like 7th ed 40k. There is no customization anywhere to be found in modern GW games and that shit sucks.
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>>98045721
Crusade/Path to Glory and the various character creators are all designed to encourage /yourdudes/ play.
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>Wizard (1)
Nice top mage you've got there, round-ears.
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>>98045757
How many points is this guy? The banish-and-cast ability is great and being able to just turn a unit(s) invisible is amazing even if it is very positionally weird (but he can just teleport into position so it's really only the unit you're covering you need to worry about). His shooting is actually very decent if you don't need to buff anything else too.
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>>98044158
Depends on how you want to differentiate between a normal centrepiece and a "superheavy". Every faction does have a big fuckoff model but they can vary in size and cost.
Just focusing on the price (because that's easier) most factions do have a big one in the €120+ range, exceptions being fyreslayers (magmadroth at 97), fec (ushoran also 97), obr (same for katakros), and gsg*. The latter's most expensive model is actually the new doom diver (87) followed by trugg (84) and the boss chariot (80 lmao).
But the faction with the cheapest centrepiece it turns out, surprisingly, is ogres. Their stonehorn/thundertusk is only 61.50, which is a lot cheaper than I expected. You could pick up two of these plus an ironblaster for only 5 euros more than Vhordrai would cost you!
The most expensive centrepiece is of course the mega, at 172.50
What did the khorne dragon sell for when that was around?
(* Without taking into account nagash and kragnos)
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Honestly man looking at this book's leaks I'm like "do I want to play CoS?". I like some of the kinda fairytale vibe they have, not in love with the models, but this is exactly the kind of tricksy but upfront army I like, it's reminding me of 2e StD. They've got loads of way to blunt aggression and cheat movement. Cost is gonna prevent you from doing everything but I really like armies with this level of tech.
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battle traits seem good. I'm not sure '3 things get to fight one after the other' is going to be particularly more useful than '2 things get to fight one after the other' but it is I guess objectively better.

Charge ability is really good.
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Soul Shepherd just hard counters Alarielle lol
>one (1) elven god vs. a dead guy with a trumpet
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>>98045818
>not in love with the models

im not sure i'd want to spend $800+ and months of painting on models i wasnt in love with
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>>98045883
I love this guy. His undead friend there looks like he's about to hit you with that Squidward clarinet solo and then give you some kind of Beatlejuice zinger.
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>>98045883
>when you ask the field surgeon how bad the wound and he just shakes his head as the soul shephard walks over to you


Also I need someone to make an edit of this with the little guy
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>>98045883
DOOT
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Finished my Vampire Lord kitbash, real happy with the results
His name is Greg
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>>98046036
Pretty gud anon
Is the sword from the blood dragon kit?
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>>98046036
Greg the blood-gargler.
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>>98032375
Fox has no stats... Those fuckers did the fish of Elathain with stats and 0 rules when in the original it worked somewhat how the fox works.

Damn, I hate the team working in Underworlds 2.0 they are so retarded.
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>>98046064
Sword is from the Blood Knight kit, so is the helmet
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>>98045658
> Tranime poster
> Thinks being better than GW is worth being more expensive
> Doesn't know about much better and still cheaper alternatives
> Instead simps for le funny ex GW paint man
Literally kys 'ma'am'
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>>98046142
trying too hard buddy
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>>98045710
Sounds retarded.
AoS needs a dynasty warriors type game, where you play as a squad of Stormcast destroying hundreds of Skaven/Orks/whatever the fuck.
You control one dude with a single squad, as your guy dies there is a bar that slowly goes up (killing and performing objectives makes it fill up fast), once full your fallen dude is thrown back on a sigmar lightning bolt to explode surrounding enemies and you get a full strength dude again. Your squad levels up but reforging takes some sort of toll for your special abilities for the rest of the round so you can't just suicide charge everyone at once.
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>>98046151
Time to dilate
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>>98046176
i always thought aos would lend itself best to a darksiders, fable, or devil may cry style high fantasy action combat RPG
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>>98045635
just use gas store acrylics then retard
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>>98043794
You sure they weren't talking what it's going to cost? $160
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>>98044264
>>98044270
>>98044274
>>98044278

It's gotta have a weakness. If it bleedfs we can kill it
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>>98045710
It was just a souls-like, and it was being published not made by them.
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>>98046554
Just convince your opponent it'd be very funny to activate every full power option every turn so it blows itself up
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>>98046036
Oh shit I remember that kitbash, nice to see you back anon. Though i'm assuming you've been here lel
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should the double turn be removed?
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>>98046828
I wonder what some peoples' ideal version of AOS is. And will GW get anywhere near anybody's ideal vision for the game?
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>>98046828
There shouldn't be any turns, both players should go simultaneously and it comes down to who can roll dice and move models the fastest
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>>98046828
AA eliminates like all of those cons

GW are too reverent of their sacred cows
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>>98046971
Too many AoS 'competitive' players are too married to the sacred cow as well
Doesn't help that most of them only play AoS
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>>98046828
Double turns are fine, AA would immediately solve every issue people have with it but at this point that's just not happening
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>>98047013
i dont understand why. you go i go is the source of the majority of aos and 40ks worst problems
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>>98042255
>>98042263
>>98042267
Don't forget damage in AOS spills over so lets say 10 attacks doing 2 damage each this will cause models to make 10 save rolls in both games. In 40k each failed save will kill a 1 wound model for each failed save but because of damage spillover in AOS each failed save will kill 2 1 wound models
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Working on a more cohesive army scheme for my CoS
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Can you keep your namefags contained? Why is Piccolo whatever making the /wfg/ threads? Tighten your leash on that sperg. Shit coomer general he made.
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>>98047163
we have all of like, 1, the only other one is chill and just posts battle reps.
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>>98047172
My point is. Piccolo is yours. Now he's making our threads with his coomer OP's. Get a handle on your degenerate /wfg/ isn't a place for coomposting.
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>>98046828

Alternating phases. Double turn would be like the priority roll in MESBG.
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>CoS Gallant knights
>2 attacks with +4 wnd and only 1 rend and damage
For being the elite infanty i gotta say they sure feel like base frontline but not jobber type, then again i wonder about their save roll
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>>98047290
Probably the same 2w 3+ they have in Spearhead. If they have the same statline as Steelhelms I'm gonna call them DoA.
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>>98047303
especially now that the steelhelms have a fucking taunt ability.
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>>98047287
Yeah I advocated for the MESBG alternating activations. Makes double turns far less problematic
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>>98047290
They're meant to be a counter-attack unit that you want the enemy to charge. They have an innate ability to get +1A and +1D when charged and thats before you buff them with orders or support characters.


The GW article puts their price at 130 for 5
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>>98046176
ffs no more stormcast slop..... is that all aos game have to offer??? please
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Ogors next week at Dalas??
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>>98044465
I know it's for gameplay purposes but the idea of a whisperblade standing next to just 3 guys and the enemy going 'must have been the wind' as he stabs them is pretty amusing
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>>98047163
He's been making threads across both generals for years anon. They're always way too early too.
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>>98047163
>>98047181
Picolo is /40kg/'s problem. Go ask them
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>carnosaur spearhead gone from the webstore
Rip
New seraphon imminent?
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>>98047163
We'll do that as soon as you start keeping your shitposters and secondaries contained within /wfg/, thanks.
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>>98047287
>Alternating phases
This. Although, it would require drastic changes to the core rules.
I'd mix in warcry priority rolls/wild dice mechanic in too.
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>>98047642
Back to back big release waves seems weird. We'll probably have seraphon/slaanesh/sons in between first.
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>>98047642
Dallas? sallaD
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>>98047848
They are putting it into the spearhead magazine so we'll get one from there at least
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>>98047886

In MESBG you roll for priority at the beginning of each turn, the players who gets can then make the first moves each phase. Of course heroic actions can break this flow, not sure how to do this in AOS context, once per turn abilities on heroes?
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>>98047942
My guess for spells is that every wizard would have choose between casting their spell or attempt to unbind the enemy.
So, if there's two lvl 1 wizards, either both cast a spell or one of them attempts to unbind another. Maybe wizards could get an ability to power up and cast one spell with more dice next round.
You could have a lvl 3 wizard put all his casts into power up and then cast a spell with 5d6.
Maybe spells could have an extra effect like prayers
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>>98047642
Yeah, most of the range is gone from GW's webstore
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>>98047642
>>98048030
>thinking you're getting new AoS ogors instead of the cities ones and the faction retired to TOW
Uh... this is awkward...
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>>98048035
Based retard
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>>98048046
Those are all for TOW. Idiot.
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Oh right I forgot the skulls event is today, that explains that. I was wondering, since it's actually been pretty chill here lately.
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>>98048049
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>>98048049
Two of them were already released for AoS. You must feel very awkward now.
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>>98048052
Skulls event is next week on the 21st, I think TW has a live stream about the Tigermen DLC for TWW3 today.
wonder if Skulls will even have a AoS Game in it's showcase
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>>98048072
"Temporarily" in AoS doesn't mean they won't ultimately be going to TOW matey.

>>98048074
AoS video games have consistently flopped so no.
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>>98048072
It's just a shitposter anon
>>98048074
Technically there's the survivors game
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>>98048035
I wish
AoS ogres are confirmed by leaked photography and they look worse imo
I think TOW will get some ogre love next year for 2nd but it'll be resin and perhaps an upgrade sprue for another kit from the same body sprue all the old stuff shares
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>>98048089
>they look worse
You can't see shit, wdym?
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>>98048093
Same proportions as the bloodpelt
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>>98045757
>Add 1 to this unit's power level
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>>98044334
Are there rules for the AoR?
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>>98048089
I don't think any future GW release will be in Resin, even Necromunda special characters and hangers-on have gotten plastic releases.
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>>98048148
Rumours said they were to be discontinued by 2025 before or something but then GW prompted FW by incorporating them.
TOW has had some of their new resins replaced but it's still an easy short term production process, one someone internally can evidently support.
Apparently TOW efforts were expanded but idk I'd still expect some stop gap resin before they get around to things, especially if they continue to produce resin and a catalogue of expected upcoming rereleases includes them.
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>>98045688
It's written in a weird way but it's actually a 12" distance, which is nothing to scoff at
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>>98048049
Damn just keep talking you fucking retard.
It's the Internet. It's 4chan. You could just walk away and no one would know. But just keep doubling down
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>>98048082
OBR in TOW? Sure buddy
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>>98048171
I think the resin stop was due to some bong tax stuff related to environmental laws or something like that. But yeah bar cathay and a couple new plastic kits most of the new tow stuff has been resin, so they're going to need to get on that. I expect they'll leave it be for a while though.
>>98048212
Anon they double down to get a rise out of you. It's not a serious argument. Just some low effort shitposts.
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Kurnothi soon
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>>98045668
There was a regularly updated warhammer fantasy mod in dom5 I'm not sure of the guy still supports it in 6 though
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>>98048325
Keep dreaming
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>>98048329
preferably somewhere besides this thread
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some more rule stuff
also shows the cogfort and giants in greywater scheme
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>>98048106
theyre in the album
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>>98048535
>first character description avoids using pronouns entirely
>second one is a woman
>third one is nonbinary
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>>98048566
I'm inclined to believe GW still shoves this shit into their games as to avoid riling up absolute nutcases.
The type that wants everyone to engage in their play pretend or else your family members start losing jobs out of the blue
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>>98048566
And people wonder why no one gives a slither of shit about AoS lore
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>>98048046
Would be funny that fyreslayer teaser is going to end up being the only new model for the roster
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>>98047894
God please let them open up another online store where I can get kits for 13 bucks a piece. Though with how everything's worse and more expensive they'll probably just be full price.
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>>98048644
Why were those magazines so limited region wise anyway?
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>>98048611
yeah I'm sure if they just used he for all these random one off blurb characters they'd become fan favourites overnight
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>>98048618
not so fast...
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>>98048735
One must imagine fyreslayer anon happy
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So looks like the cogfort will in fact be on a 160, seems like a decent size, really nice of GW to slap the fusil majors next to these so I could get a good size comparison, also the treelord deffo helps me get a good idea how big this fucking thing is gonna be.
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>>98048566
>unironically complaining about pronouns

Jesus christ did you retards just go swap seats with the 9 year old tumblr dweebs. Who the fuck reads this and thinks about this type of shit for more than a second.
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>>98048089
There are photo leaks?? Where??
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>>98048861
Enjoy
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Why is everyone here sucking the cogfort off so much?
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>>98048872
cuz it's a giant walking castle with guns on it, and a release that hits every faction so everyone has something to say about it.
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>>98048872
Because it's a pretty cool model anon, you should try to enjoy things once in a while
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>>98048872
because it's fucking cool you stupid dense phasmophobic retard idiot
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>>98048861
and here's the other one.
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>>98048887
>>98048892
>>98048900
it's fucking terrain, literally who gives a shit tier.
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>>98048904
ya know I completely forgot about the initial leak calling them terrain.
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>>98048872
because the Cogfort is such a funny Unit
>get six to seven Cogforts
>now the Skyline of Sigmar will ruin you
>CITIES of Sigmar was meant literally, the buildings kill you
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>>98048535
Cheers
Can't access imgur in UK without a liocense
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>>98044379
updated
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>>98048839
>>98043794
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>>98049002
well damn, thanks anon.
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>>98048872
>big awesome (in the literal sense) unit that has been talked about in the background for almost a decade finally gets a big fuckoff centrepiece unit available to every single army in the game
Truly a mystery for the ages
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>galants get extra damage and attacks when charged
>galants can giver friendly units +1 rend when charged
>steelhelms have taunt
>order to give a unit +1 rend when charged

The cities army really wants to play defensively doesn't it



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