Previous: >>98037207Real TQ Edition>Most recent banlist updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.comhttps://www.pdhrec.com>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>Gay Bolashttps://e621.net/posts?tags=nicol_bolashttps://files.catbox.moe/823tpq.png>Did this happen?https://files.catbox.moe/ika7gh.gifhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4SEDzynMiQ&t=44shttps://files.catbox.moe/t0zq17.jpg>Why is mono green so boring?https://files.catbox.moe/2x8qly.jpg>Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)https://files.catbox.moe/8a43jw.jpg>I hate thread culturehttps://files.catbox.moe/1jzlen.jpgTQ: How many decks is too many?
I have 25 decks is that too much?
Kneel before Aminatou, queen of Esper.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98044756Uoh?
>All my opponents have sol ring out earlyI saw one shuffle properly and another just take the right half and mash it into the other not actually moving the top cards of his deckI'm about to go nuclear if I don't stop seeing cheating going on
>>98044756Why is she wearing a fishnet on her head?
>>98044730I've said it before and I'll say it again: having more than three commander decks is just fucking embarrassing.
>>98044825
>the TQ is implying if restraint is due>when furry porn links are brazenly put in the OP
>>98044825You must get embarrassed easily.
>>98044861I see you dont feel embarassment at all
>>98044847You could have just said "I have too many decks because I am a hoarder with no self-control and wish everyone was like me."
>>98044885But OP is the one w/o self-control though
Why are noobs so inclined to build pillowfort decks? I never see the experienced players in my area running ghostly prison and propaganda, only the newfags and precon kiddies.
>>98044908Because they lose to any wincon that's not turning a huge (wide) board sideways.
>>98044908Pillowfort lets you do your thing while protecting yourself from your oponent's thing so in the casual's mind that's better than playing an actual control deck using interaction
>>98044908because it works very well against bad players, and they are and play with bad players
>>98044880brb going to make another tribal deck and make you seethe about it. this time it will be bats.
What makes you instantly close a decklist?
>>98044994>primer; b3; no infinites>primer is just a youtube link to a shitty channeliykyk
You were too harsh on Kaldheim. Be honest, you know it's true.
>>98044994Obvious nonbo that shows they weren't thinking at all when building the deck.
>>98045025How is that a nonbo
>>98045036How much mana do you think is spent to cast Memory Deluge when you cascade into it?
>>98045038oh
What card should i get from chang
>>98045058
>>98045064I was about to say he wont have it, but he does.Added to my order
>>98045058Who do you use? I've stuck to Usea and whatever Bootleg Mage has (which he claims is 80% Usea, 20% Ron/BL).
>>98045162BL, it's a group order so it's about $1 a card
>>98045173How's his print quality? Based on what I've seen people claim, his foils are kinda ass, and Usea is basically the king of anything shiny.
>>98045157>is indestructible and cannot be countered>is also a cripple somehowMake it make sense.
>>98044756But the cat is the queen of Esper thoughbeit?
>>98044817Why aren't you cutting their cards?
ban sol ringban rhystic studyban tutors (yes, all of them)
>>98045216Backs are somewhat ass but the fronts are good.I don't particularly like foils so I don't actually have any from him Usea is incredible like you say but I also like the cheapness of BL
>>98045038>from your hand
>>98045233How are you playing it from your hand if you cascaded into it?
>>98045223I don't recognize UB but alright I'll make a special exception because it's Y'shtola, all hail the queen.
>>98045247Yes exactly
>>98045223>>98045259She is pure and utter bullshit, and that's coming from someone who runs her. I can just sit there 99% of the time destroying the fun for everyone. Also not pictured, but I added Decorum Dissertation and Defacing Duckmage from the new set. Both have worked wonders.
>>98045231Can we keep this one?
>>98045219It's stunning and brave dontcha know
>>98045231Let them have Evolving Wilds as a little treat.
>>98045157I'm upset this nigga is a card but we don't have Nidhogg.Immersturm predator is as close as we get but it's non-legendary.
>>98044825>2 bracket 2s, 2 bracket 3s, 3 bracket 4sOh no, I'm cringe for having variety.
>>98045390>i have variety!>lists powerlevel and not archetypes
Would you feel bad if you lost to this combo?
>>98045414Not anymore than any other combo
>>98045360Why is Niko?
>>98045414It doesn't even have tramplego, storm crow
>>98045414Every complaint about infinites is reducible to "you did it too early"
>>98045414This loses to a decent amount of stuff, one of them just being a decent board of flyers.I wouldn't complain.
>>98044661Im working on one deck for each archetype, then a low/high power variant,.then maybe a middle if I care enough aboutso far at 8 decks
>>98045414this isn't a combo, there needs to be either a squadron hawk/tormented soul or something attaching the sword to aurelia on ETB.
>>98045414Nets 1 mana negative every time, eventually you run out of mana to re-equip
When's tribal matters?
>>98045475Aurelia isn't getting equipped, nor is there a main phase to do so>>98045440Aurelia isn't the one getting equippedThis general making the antiUB one look like rocket surgeons
>>98045504So.... some mysterious random creature is just guaranteed to get through to hit everyone? Is that the contention? Okay, sorry I didn't realize you were a retard. Now post something difficult to block and damage control for the next 4 hours.
>>98045504>Aurelia isn't the one getting equippedthat's what I'm saying, this isn't the combo, there's another card here. even if it's just a bird or <insert 1-drop with unblockable>
>>98045504>shows 2 cards>"anon that doesn't work">well if I have X other creature it does!okay, I'll just block the other creature
True duals are barely any better than battlebond lands in commander. People severely overrated original duals.
>>98045390No, you are cringe for knowing what a bracket is.
>>98045429EDH players are notoriously bad at dealing with flying
>>98045414I Fatal Push Aurelia (down the stairs).
>>98045534>Fetchable untapped lands are actually bad guys
>>98045534you can't fetch bondlands
>>98045534>true duals suck>that's why they're the most proxied cards in all of mtg
>>98045540Ok...your Fatal Push fizzles because you picked an illegal target.
>>98045554Wait, which card am I thinking of? the Morbid -13/-13. I knew I was retarded but this is getting serious.
>>98045554Ackshually aurelia's a legal target, push just does nothing to her
>>98045562Tragic Slip
>>98045562Tragic slip
>>98045565she's too fat
>>98045545Who said they were bad?
>>98045569>>98045566Damn.. well I have SIDS (Sneeds in Dis Shit) so ignore me.
>>98045572You, through implication.
>>98045552Yes you keep going on about how abu proxies are super good. Can you explain how the turtles deck is enhanced by swapping underground stadium with bayou?
>>98045584With abu duals i can now play an opener with fetches without having to lose 2 more life
>>98045597But the turtles deck has no fetches.
>>98045609Yes because wotc isnt that financially stupid
>>98045609so swap in fetches too
>>98045597So you are saying they are better if you also out in fetchesQuick name me 4 scenarios where I am likely to lose the game because I have a morphic pool and not an underground seaNo one said they aren't better. But it is basically going from 95 to 100. The improvement isn't massive.
>>98045632But it IS an improvement, and the people proxying abu duals are doing it to win, why waste percentage points down the drain?
>>98045632fetches and fetchable lands are, in fact, a massive improvement over unfetchable lands
>>98045429How would it lose to a board of flyers? It would eventually chew through them.
>>98045724You don't have infinite mana and you have no way of equipping the weapon again. You've shown only 2 cards. You're retarded
>>98045724Exile her, exile the weapon. >Boros You're not ramping that much. It's probably rather late turn wise.So people have answers.
Is there a good read for EDH culture, so to speak? I haven't played since Zendikar but my co-workers dragged me back in, and all this bracket shit isn't very descriptive. I used enchanted evening to kill everyone and that was a little too op apparently even though I didn't have any 'game changers' in my deck, it was just the yuna precon with about 20 cards changed out with what I had lying around from when I played.
>>98045724>Block the thing swinging in with Immersturm Predator>Block the thing swinging a second time with a different flyer, like Restoration Angel>0(Cero) blinks to reset Aurelia>No way my lethal got prevented?!C'mon man.Alternatively>Swing out>board gets eaten by a bigger board so your stuff dies on the first swingC'mon man.
>>98045759Just say your deck is a seven and got stomped by them.
Who /battlecruiser/ here?
>>98045761I forgot resto angel was white when thinking of a flier off rip.Pretend I said Ureni, the mainset one.
>>98045766Kind of wish these guys would get another cycle the way the Dominario Elders got one..
>>98044661>I le put my gay furry porn in the OP again xDDDDDFake thread, shan't use.
>>98045769>Urenimight wanna check the colors there too, bud
>>98045763That's not particularly helpful. Its fine if the answer is no I'll just learn what makes people mad as I go.
>>98045783Uuh fuckUuhIt gets blocked by Jackie chan because I have wonder in the GY.
>>98045769Who cares? You have some effect that changes its color identity. He still didn't say what the other creature is that is attacking
>>98045759EDH culture is primarily about letting people do the thing which is pretty much the worst thing sheldon ever brought to a pvp game
If anyone has managed to make a real life EDH deck with each one of these for the 32 deck challenge, then they are the most based player alive.
>>98045624But then how do we know the problem isn't the fetches?
>>98045798the problem is the fetches, they're the best lands in the game
>>98045798Fetches are the best lands in the game and it's not even close.The game would improve drastically if they got axed from all formats.
>>98045552>true duals aren't much better than this land>"OH SO THEY SUCK"Kill yourself.
>>98045795if you're not using the original elder dragons for their colors, you are simply the biggest faggot alive
>>98045794That actually makes sense. I was trying to watch a few games on mtgo labeled bracket 3 and everyone was just playing whatever but never really stopped the other players with wrath or counter spell type shit and it kinda worried me that I'm just supposed to let people get away with it.On the plus side my set of Serra's Sanctum is worth about 1900 more than I paid for them thank you old angel fetish.
>>98045414Better question. How would you feel losing to a combo of Aurelia and 3 rockabilly elves?
>>98045798Fetches are the best and abu duals make them evem better correct
>>98045794So it is dead by daylight?
>>98045811doesn't work, and not like the pissants whining that Aurelia+HearthyHome needs another creature, it just doesn't work.
>>98045816So then this discussion should start with removing fetches from the game and not ABU duals.
>>98045820UB soon
>>98045820Correct
>>98045823>I'll just cheat
>>98045414
>>98045798Fetches are the best lands in the entire game and only getting better with age. The option select of being able to grab a surveil land or a triome instead of a shock or a dual when you don't need the extra mana has made them better than ever. There is virtually no deck in the game that doesn't benefit in some way from a fetchland manabase.
>>98045823?????????????????????
>>98045022I liked the shapeshifters and angels.
>>98045844>>98045811So you finally fixed your retarded combo. Good. Do you have opponents or are you goldfishing? Somebody will just destroy/exile/bounce one of the two and stop it before it starts.Looks like you're just goldfishing.Have fun, mongoloid
>>98045820Exactly.>Players have unwritten rulebook the size of a LotR novel>Devs too stupid to fix this>Any of these rules being codified in actual game rules will result in whining from retards that skirt them to collect easy winsThe reason Rhystic Study hasn't been banned is because the average player is too retarded to take 5 minutes to make a real draw package. You have players that think their deck NEEDS Deflecting Swat because the concept of holding one fucking mana open is too hard for them.It's a game where the stupidity of the playerbase is now such a large issue that the devs trying to actually make the game work risks killing the game, not helped by how the devs themselves are just as retarded as the players.
>>98045859What the fuck are you autisming about?
>>98045871Grow a brain, retard
>>98045804>battlebond lands dont see cedh play>we're supposed to take a comparison between true duals and battlebond lands seriouslyNo u kys
>>98045859Next you'll be telling us grindstone + painter's servant is actually bad because disenchant exists.
>>98045827I get your sentiment, but i also like to live in reality and accept that some ships have long sailed
>>98044141Do you really want to marry Thalia after her hymen and possibly womb has been torn to shreds by the Gitrog Monster?
>>98045785I wish we could get a qt Dragon girl commander.
>>98045908yes
>>98045908He's riding with the cowboys now anyway.
Speaking of fetches, how sweaty is it to run off color fetches in a deck?
>>98045937Depends on a lot of factors.
>>98045937I do it in a few decks, because I'm trying to make them as strong as possible, but from an aesthetic standpoint it triggers my autism.
>>98045937It depends but I'd okay it as long as it's not something stupid like wanting more color fixing in a 2 color deck.Landfalls, Lifeloss and the tutoring aspect are all pretty strong upsides if they're relevant.
>>98045966Wotc should allow hybrid rule change so mono can be stronger + further trigger your autism
>>98045937Its a 9/10 on the sweat scale.
>>98046032this but any land that comes in untapped and is not a basic
>>98045914Lorehold is right there
>>98044661>>Gay BolasI'm curious, is there actual GOOD smut written for this franchise, or is gay furry incest porn all there is?
>>98046074This was pretty hot.
>>98046074Nobody but the furry bothered to write anything better.
How tf can I post a pic of my deck withouth the captcha saying File or dimentions are too large? or it says Connection errorHow can I compress a pic so I can upload it here without it losing quality that you can't read the cards names because they look pixelated if I compress the image?
>>98046115save it as a jpg instead of a png
>>98046118its a JPG 22.5mb
>>98046130bro stop saving shit at 40,000x40,000 pixels
For me, it's persist combos.
>>98046115>>98046130I can't tell if you're 12 years old and don't actually know how to use a phone's camera properly, or some 40 year old absolute fucking moron who refused to learn how to use technology.
You just can't beat this combo. Only 4 mana, wins on the spot, kino cards, interesting rules interaction, easy to set up. Doesn't get better than this.
>>98046189Dies to removal
>>98046175>or some 40 year old absolute fucking moron who refused to learn how to use technology.This is me yet even I do not have this issue.
Teferi's Talent triggers each time for each card you draw from a spell, right? For example Brainstorm would put 3 loyalty counters on the planeswalker?
>>98046207Yes
>>98046189>Can't interact with a sorcery, or a creature who dies to shockIf you say so.
>>98046211Yeah that's what I figured, but "whenever you gain life, this triggers" works differently because it's "one instance of gaining life" (gain 50 life? only triggers once), so I didn't know if the game worked the same way with card draw triggers
>Anon how are you so good at deckbuilding?>Anon can you fix my deck?>Anon can you improve my deck?>Anon how can I make my deck better?>Actually look at their deck>It's borderline random shit thrown together>No cohesive gameplan past "play cards sometimes">Average mana value over 5>Cards that nonbo with the commander>Sometimes the deck doesn't even have wincons in itWhy the fuck are these people asking for advice when they clearly didn't review their own deck?
>>98046230The explanation I've always seen is:>I build all my decks from scratch, order singles to build them>spend hours and hours reviewing/editing/goldfishing to make sure everything works properly>friends build decks almost exclusively with cards from their collection, no matter how bad they are>they almost never buy singles, only random packs here and there>never test them, just throw cards together and call it goodCan't get good at deckbuilding if you never actually try to properly build decks
Post cards made in the past 2 years that have new art you like.
>>98046074>is there actual GOOD smutwotc can't even manage a basic ship like jace x liliana, foid fanfic writers could care less
>>98046230>Do this for someone>Take out the stuff that didn't work and put in stuff from their collection what would work better. Like, unironically, picrel. >Come back next week>They put it back the way it was. They never even played with the changes.
>>98046239>Florian HeroldStar Wars sounding ass name
>>98046189lol
>>98046244God FUCKING D A M N I know this feel>friend gets this precon>we find that the Reaper King No More card is a way better commander>blight shit, put -1/-1s on opponents creatures and then you can steal them>deck needs more -1/-1 support so we go through his collection and make some incredible upgrades>he takes them all out by next week because "the precon came the way it did for a reason" and "WotC knows what they're doing" or some shit>he hasn't won with it ever because of how weak it is compared to our decks
>>98046230>>98046236Here's the secret to good deckbuilding:>find a commander you like>go to moxfield>filter decks by that commander>sort by most likes/views>look at the top deck>understand what makes it tick>understand why it is popular>now go check edhrec for your commander>look at the cards that have high inclusion/synergy>now go back to that top moxfield deck>copy it to your own moxfield account>tinker with it, adjusting stuff to better suit your needs and what you have on hand>boom it's a good deck>>98046277>"the precon came the way it did for a reason">"WotC knows what they're doing"People need to realize precons are INTENTIONALLY shitty, and I'm still pissed that wotc does that shit on purpose.>deck has nonsensical amounts of tap lands that slow it down to a crawl>artifacts are always totally wrong (you should have 0 mana rocks or 10+, nothing in between, in order to curve out OR ramp)>20+ creatures and spells are totally wrong because they're designed for the "alternate" commander>low power weenie shit in general
>>98046291>People need to realize precons are INTENTIONALLY shittyI have tried explaining that "they make simple decks for beginners" so many times and they've never listened. Precons NEED upgrades, especially with the lands. The fucking filter lands are better than all the variations of Evolving Wilds they shove in the mana base
>>98046139How can you read the cards names if it looks pixelated without a high quality?
>>98046115>>98046130How is your photo coming out 22mbs? If you can't get the photo down then just get a picture of your commander from scryfall and post the moxfield deck list.
>>98046277His reasons for leaving it as is, is absurd granted, I would have to disagree with Reaper 2.0 is better than Ool, so many ways to go infinite to draw your entire deck to win on the spot.Granted, not everyone might have the card in collection to do it, but generally.
>>98046277>the precon came the way it did for a reasonI don't think I've ever known anyone who thought this way. I kind of assumed everyone, even new players, knew that precons come out with multiple intentionally weak cards that you're intended to remove and replace with other cards. Usually reinforced by the obvious advertisements for other sets they're selling packed into the precons.
>>98046304Also don't get me wrong, I'm NOT saying you need turbomaxx your mana base immediately (stuff like mana confluence, city of brass, the fetches, blah blah blah). I AM saying though that you should get the garbage tap shit out and replace it with untapped lands like filters. Hell shocks are only $10 these days.
>>98046322I could forgive it if he was a beginner, but he's been playing with us for like a full decade. I just don't fucking understand.
>>98046189>two card four mana total comboIf your combo is only legal in bracket 4+ its cringe, sorry brother. Shant be playing the sweatfag containment brackets.
>>98046334>full decade of playing>still uses precons and thinks like thisMy dude, get away from him before his black hole of intelligence sucks you in.>>98046335>he doesn't play mindcrank and bloodchief>he doesn't play vito/sanguine/enduring and exquisite>he doesn't play thoracle
>>98046335>containment bracketsNo one mentioned bracket 2
>>98046335don't worry I'll sandbag my two card four mana infinite combo until my turn 9, surely you'll let me in the baby bracket now right
>>98046350Sorry friend, the guideline is can't reasonably be deployed until turn 6, not "I could have played this turn 2-4 but intentionally sandbagged it." You're looking at about 9 mana minimum for your combo to be kiddy pool friendly.
>>98046316>I would have to disagree with Reaper 2.0 is better than Ool, so many ways to go infinite to draw your entire deck to win on the spot.This. Reaper isn't bad but -1/-1 counters is a combo archetype and Ool is better for that.
>>98046383>can't reasonably be deployeddefine "reasonable" so i can angleshoot scrubs into thinking my combo is juuuust inconsistent enough to be in the kiddy pod
>>98046407noooo you can't angleshoot to allow things into the bracket. You can only angleshoot to exclude things!
>>98046407>come on help me cheat in little league broPathetic.
>>98046451>things can be as simple as no infinites until turn X>practical to enforce and less headaches>no we simply have to make our lives harderi accept your concession
are there any FUN yshtola decks>yshtola vehicles
>>98046473What, you don't find infinite counterspells and spot removal fun?
>>98046490I hate how it's just "staple tribal" the only interesting y'shotla deck I've seen in the wild was a living weapons deck
>>98046492>staple tribalIt's more of "Remember that bad 3cmc spell? Well now it's godlike." Sure you can run the free counterspell gang and stiff like deadly rollick, rewind/unwind, and so on, but even with generic 3cmc removal and counter she's a menace.
Is Annihilator MLD?If not, why not?
>Omath, Locus of Pain>2B>You don’t lose unspent black mana as steps and phases end.>At the end of your turn each opponent loses life equal to the amount of B in your mana pool.
>>98046510No, annihilator is mass permanent denial. It doesn't directly affect lands.
>>98046515Yeah but you can easily end up in a situation where someone has no option but to sac many of their lands and brackets are about deck capabilities, not play choices since you're not supposed to sandbag.So i feel like technically, Ulamog is a bracket 4 card, though it obviously shouldn't be in reality.Wish my LGS wasn't full of whiny fags who will probably start arguments like this once my eldrazi deck arrives.
>>98044661yeah i play with counterfeit dualsyeah i pass them off as real for street credso what?
>>98046527I could tell by your yellow skin and slit eyes
>>98045216BL used to be THE Chang before USea overtook him.
We needed the original version of brackets. Not this neutered version that thinks players are smart enough to rub their two brain cells together and realize Isochron Scepter + Dramatic Reversal does not count as a "turn 8 combo" just because they're shit at the game.A tiered banlist would have been infinitely more effective at eliminating the complete horseshit that is people getting into the coplympics over how their deck is totally fair and really really really needs this card no please don't remove it I don't have any other way to draw cards in this deck.Gavin un-GCing Food Chain because "it doesn't risk causing trouble in the lower brackets anywhere" was a complete horseshit statement that basically cemented that the current state of brackets where B2 is only a marginal improvement over what we previously had, and the game still remains defined by how hard you can cope that your deck "totally doesn't do this normally".
>>98046520I guess the defining characteristic is immediate impact/purpose vs. maximal potential. There is a clear difference between Armageddon and Smokestack. Smokestack COULD deny many lands, but Armageddon DOES.
>>98046520if you need to jump through hoops to have your annihilating eldrazi destroy one (1) person's lands that's not what gavin means when he says MLD
>>98046542I don't think it takes many hoops to sac a lot of lands with Ulamog, he can easily get Annihilator 6-10 at most tables.Gavin said Annihilator 2 is totally fine but he hasn't commented on huge ones like that.
>>98046520>Wish my LGS wasn't full of whiny fags who will probably start arguments like this once my eldrazi deck arrives.Playing Eldrazi at my LGS is an endless source of butthurt. I even have people who bitch before the game starts.>"oh fuck off stop trying to play toxic stuff like Eldrazi">people just get up and leave the pod>once had one guy argue with store staff because he demanded to be in another pod, and then the guy who was going to replace him also started bitching about Eldrazi>even got asked by staff to not play Eldrazi because "it's not in the spirit of the format"
>>98046575That's so pathetic man, i don't understand getting salty over this game.When I started playing commander in August I got matched against a very powerful Zhulodok deck on my 2nd time playing and got completely wrecked.But I thought that was a fun and cool experience in its own way, I love seeing cool cards do retarded evil stuff and just being silly.People get their egos so bruised by this game.
>>98046598The modern target audience for mtg (niggers and troons and liberals) throw a pissbaby fit when they get stomped instead of reflecting on how they could improve their deck/strategyWhich is why wotc adopted this retarded ass bracket system in the first place to reduce pissbaby rage (it doesn't)
>>98045414It's a HOPT isn't it?
>>98046575>not in the spirit of the formatYou'll have nothing and like it across from me sir
>>98046653this is some real boomer tier stuff
>>98046564do you even know how gavin defined mld
>>98046646No. Once she leaves and re-enters she's a new permanent, so it would be a new instance of the trigger not tied to the same permanent.
Destroying artifacts is MLD since people treat them like extra lands
>>98046738It actually would be MLD in her deck
>>98046575thanks sheldon!
>>98046520Thank you for explaining why brackets do not work at all and are a terrible system that have destroyed the game for public play.
>>98046726>no you can only play NEW cardsHoly shit youre a faggot
>>98046575I'd offer to sell the deck to the store at list price. They certainly have the cash to do so. If they say no then no can do, sir. I own the items and you do not.
>>98046726You were supposed to say unc. You can't even Gen A roleplay right.
>>98046769why is "this generation's kid slang" just "last generation's black slang"
>>98046575I took apart my Eldrazi deck because people cried about getting worldfired. Now I just play Spider-Man and drop 20 mana worth of beaters on turn 4. It's ok because they aren't colorless.
>>98046769I'm a millennial we say boomer.
>>98046776Always has been.
Chosen Commander2 (Color identify of the deck)Legendary Creature - WhateverDraw cards or tutor or play stuff for freeWho/CaresThat's all I want from a commander is it so wrong
>>98046789Sounds like every precon commander from the last handful of years
>>98046789He's 3 colors, but laser pants perfectly describes what you want.
>>98046789Are you just bad at looking up cards?
>>98046789
>>98046730Lame. Why do they even name the card in the rule then?
>>98046742God I love earthbend. Shame we're never going to see it again.
>>98046837Whoa this is broken
>>98046871I hope it never comes back. Awful mechanical design.
>>98046871What if Greensleeves but shit
Combo'd with a creature from each of my opponents tonight. Likely the first and las time it'll ever happen.>I have Fairy Artesians+Eldrazi Displacer+ just enough lands to activate displacer 3 times in a row and have one mana left>Opponent 1 has a Thought monitor>Opponent 2 has a Witherbloom (Pay 10 life, untap your lands, activate once each turn>Opponent 3 has some 5/5 dinosaur that when it or another creature enters you gain life equal to it's toughness>Flicker Witherbloom, get a copy, pay ten and untap all my lands floating one>Flicker the Dino twice and gain ten life>Combo until I have arbitrary mana and flicker Thought Monitor to draw enough card to where I can cast enough stax pieces to lock the game. I'll never have such a perfect storm of cards on everyone's board again.
>>98046871I do love building around it
>>98044908Pillowfort is stax lite. Does a decent job of encouraging early aggression to go elsewhere, and most people don't like getting stomped early.Implying it's a noob trap is pointless, as a) this is a casual format, and b) play cedh if you want to be king faggot.
>>98046789I've learned that do thing draw card commanders are fine.Sometimes you just wanna see cards.
What went wrong?
>>98046871Ok how do I abuse earthbend and do it to like a dozen lands at once?
>>98046928Fetches to ramp.
>>98046928Literally take 5 seconds to look at a Standard deck.
now this is podracing
>>98046927Nontoken
>>98046947waiting for the $1 china release.
>>98046927Gruul is a really awkward color combo to do this playstyle in, it misses way too many artifact value cards in blue/white.
>>98046966Nah it's just the cursed word. If she hit with treasures and food she'd be playable.
>>98046927>Card advantage>ManaNothing, it is you being too much of a coward to play stax or a skill issue.
https://moxfield.com/decks/WocN0oFnp0uHKFpKD5WGwgThoughts on this vibe so far?
>>98046789(You) are genuinely everything wrong with Commander.Your commander is supposed to be a batlteship.
>>98046989My own personal experience with Breena is that players just ignore the temptation.
>>98046959me2, thanks for playtesting
Show me a card that if you play it at a bracket 3-4 table that will on average cause more salt than this?>play mono red>play this, most likely against greedy 2-5 color decks with hardly any basic lands>profitWins me so many damn games.
>>98047029>Bracket 3Illegal move according to bracket rules. Blood Moon is MLD.
>>98047052>Illegal move
>>98046989Lacks some kind of wincon. You generate incremental counters but nothing forces me to handle you asap. Also Envoy of the Ancestors never performed for me.
>>98047059Based, I think Blood Moon should be fine in bracket 3 too, but everytime I try to play it I get bitched at/people concede so I stopped bothering.
>>98047063It just single handily destroys any 3+ color deck, and many 2 color decks. For most decks it brings them down to having a handful of cars in the right order to even remove it. When mono-red was weak in EDH, it was a staple, but now it almost feels like trolling/cheat mode sometimes. If you don't win you make some very strong decks tank, and kingmake someone else or steal it. Either way, it's a very red play.
>>98047029Blood moon is a safe bet because it almost always works. However, there are a lot more salt causing cards, especially if you know someone's going to play say monored. It exponentially increases the salt factor if they're the only one playing that color.
>Turns this bad boy sideways and casts go for the throat on your now animated forestGavin can't save you now little man, you're in my world.
>>98047136JUUUUUUUDGE
>>98047069It only shuts down a greedy manabase.
>>98047231That's like 85% of decks.
>>98047029
>>98047239Sucks to suck. Play more basics.
>>98047069>It just single handily destroys any 3+ color deckWhy are you being over dramatic? You know this isn't true.
People need to learn basics are the best lands again
>>98047231Really doesn't. It fucks up bad manabases too. Play it into the avarage 3c precon and their crap manabase will be devastated. Do not downplay Blood Moon it's the best in the game at what it does.
>>98047298Nobody should be playing precons in Bracket 3 without expecting to get their asses stomped to be fair.
>>98047298You could make a three color deck with only basics and artifacts
>>98047305you never faced shitty bracket 3 decks which are only bracket 3 because the decks creator really really needed his game changer crutches?
>>98047305My point is that blood moon does not discriminate and fucks up decks even moderately populated with nonbasics. If it were easy to play around it wouldn't be so effective.
>>98047298A greedy manabase is a bad manabase. If a manabase gets shut down by Blood Moon, it's bad. Run more fucking basics and play less colors.
>>98047305I've seen numerous precons work fine in bracket 4 even
>>98047354I'll take your word on that, I ain't never seen it even with the "busted" ones I hear about like Hearthhull and the Tidus precon or the new turtles one.UPGRADED precons sure, fix the landbase for a few of them and they're solid decks with a few jank cards, perfectly serviceable, but out of the box? Never seen them get anything but shit on in B3+.
>>98047330I've recently switched from ramp to tutor-to-hand, due to my commanders being mostly MV 2 or 3 and never green. I don't have the stats to claim it is better, but it does feel good to always hit your land drops for six turns.
>thalia gets the aetherspark >uses it to resurrect the angels and teleport all the eldrazi off the plane and seal off Innistrad from the multiverse forever>Innistrad is now a self contained gothic horror plane where the main conflict is between cute angels and cool looking demons>no boring ass capeshit villain eldrazi/phyrexians or planeswalkers show up there ever againHire me MaRo.
>>98046727Yeah 4 lands per person, which is why i'm concerned about annihilator 4 and higher, or about multiple annihilators at once.
>>98047472>*monkeys paw curls*Granted, but all the future angels and humans of innistrad will be ugly blacks and troons, and the demons will all be faggy nuDnD incubi.Get ready for Griselbrand with assless chaps.
>>98047598How is it a monkey paw to say that the game keeps its current direction?
>>980475824+ lands per person ≠ 4+ lands per *opponent*one of the main points of banning mld is that the one blowing up lands gimps himself too and cannot finish the game in a timely manner
>>98047598>assless chaps.Can you please provide an image of assed chaps? You may find it paired with a sleeved vest.
>>98045534Great, that means you don't need to proxy them.
>>98047052What's mass about it? It only targets non-basics.
>>98047598I don't care about your /pol/shit, bro.
>>98047472sorry bwo, you'll get get fat and ugly angels instead
>>98047679gavin makes no distinction between basics and nonbasics
>>98047691I am not him and I care.
Thoughts on picrel?
>>98047737I use it in Elesh Norn and Kambal
>>98047472>cute angelsI like these but I mainly like Innistrad for the cool humans like Odric and the other Cathar fighting the demons, vampires, and zombies. The cutting Innistrad off from other planes I'm all for either way.
>>98047737Activates my Oath of Druids and Defense of the Heart, 10/10.
>>98047737I'd play it in every deck if it didn't cost $
>>98047737only in 5c decks.
>>98045820Would pig for a DBD set
>>98047737Shit
>sideloader inner sleeves
>wanting to make a Frodo/Sam deck around ring tempts and more on theme to Frodo and Sam and Gollum journeying but I keep getting halfling combo decks>Want to make a Bilbo Retired Burglar treasure deck now that Smaug is leaked but it's shit compared to any other treasure commander It's frustrating
>>98047699I don't think she's ugly.
>>98047691Final Fantasy was the most popular set ever because they made ONE(1) set within the last 5 years not making all of their characters repulsively ugly for no reason.But yeah sure, just stay in your echo chamber and keep calling the 90% of the playerbase who like attractive art a bunch of chuds. You freaks are just exhausting.
>>98047617No MLD is banned in low brackets because it hurts people's feelings and somewhat rightfully so, it basically makes them unable to play the game which isn't in the spirit of casual gameplay.
>>98047935I think for Smaug you really want him as the commander since he's such an insane pay-off for treasure decks.
>>98048017>That's why it was successful Imagine believing this
>>98048017Before FF was the best selling set of all time, LotR was the best selling set of the time and they did all of the things you hate.
>>98048088>inb4 it doesn't count
Finally got in touch with the original artist for Living Death to get the judge foil version I got for $70 bucks signed, then I looked at the price of it now and it's like 200-300 bucks holy shitGoing to plummet the value of this card but it's fine to get my entire pet deck signed.
>>98047737fun stuff
>>98048125What deck is it for?
>>98048140This lovely lady. The project has been going on for like 3 years now or something.I have like 75% of the deck signed so far.
>>98048143Neat. I like reanimator decks.
>>98047935Just play what you want and stop getting so hung up on muh better commanders like a faggot. But ring stuff is gay as fuck
>>98048168Reanimator has been my favorite theme ever since I was a small boy and first cast monster reborn on a blue eyes white dragon Ever since then I knew I would be a filthy graveyard player.
>>98048143I'm certain I've seen an alt of this with huge cleavage
>>98047950what the FUCK
>>98045933>Olivia pursuing her beloved frog prince across worlds
>>98047950I want to make a deck where the theme is creatures with lots of big wings, unfortunately that basically ends up being angels and dragons and my best commander would be Kaalia. If I play the 3CMC version of her where she tutors with a reveal on ETB, will I still get hated as much as the original one? An alternative is to limit myself to Boros angels and dragons which might be fun but it will probably become something like an Aurelia deck.
>>98045937It should be banned in every format that allows fetches.
>build pic related in 2018/2019>it's kinda dogshit, basically only loses>rebuild it in 2024/2025>so many new good token cards make it actually pretty viable and maintain a solid win rate>people seem to enjoy playing against it because it's got unique vibes and isn't oppressive Love to see it
>>98046510>Exiles half my library I have lands in there. Isn't that mld already?
>>98048088Lotr sold in spite of wotc'a faggotry because naturally the source material is that good and they couldve sold even more if wotc werent such faggots
>>98048500That's just MTG in general. It sold in spite of its horrific artstyle since its inception. Only the gameplay mechanics made it worth playing
>>98048043But enough about counterspells
>>98048507Correct mtg has always been about the gameplay with the shittiest ip out there and retards will still ask why UB > UW
>>98048499It's not targeting those lands, it's targeting your library in general.
>>98048621So accidental mld is fine? Since when?
>>98048088>LotR was the best selling set of the time and they did all of the things you hate.The only two views I actually hear from people is they either hate the horrible artstyle, race-swapping and shoehorned they/thems or they just dont care about any of it and just love Magic. Never have I ever met a person who unironically says the game is better for it and noone ever said that Final Fantasy is bad because it has less representation of marginalized groups. These people dont exist.So in that case, what would WotC have to lose by having the rest of their sets be unwoke like FF? Literally nothing. You only defend the status quo out of spite.
I should just combine them
>>98048671I think these were spoiled already, no?
>>98048647>>98048652>>98048652>>98048671These feel really uninspired compared to the LotR and FF scene cards.
>>98048686I didn't think so, well at least we know what the other heroes do
>>98048671Loki and Modok are the only interesting two here and they still kind of suck.
>>98048657straight upgrade in my syr carah deckshe can retire now
>>98048686>Loki>the green guy>mono redWat
>>98048652>Destroys my artifact lands MLD and bracket 4 confirmed
>>98048647Only way for marvel to sell gangbusters is if they could put the movie versions on cards, but likeness of actors and all that copyright stuff is not something that wotc or marvel wants
>>98048686>Viper is in the art but doesn't get a cardFuck off
>>98048761They should've made Loki's color identity a lie.Hulk is obviously mono-red yes.Other than their look there's nothing green about either of them.
Reminds me of old MTG art. It's horrible
>>98048686>Absorbing man and titania Who?
>>98048791Loki should have had some unique gimmick.>Trickster - Loki enters the battlefield as any color combination of your choice. When Loki is not on the battlefield, he is colorless.
>>98048823We should be happy that none of the cards have typos or are missing the legendary frame around the their name with how bad mtg is at doing cards nowadays
>>98048834Dont worry it's UB so they're extra careful about typos
>>98048811C-lister villains with big powers and small ambitions. They mostly work as hired muscle.
>>98048864I am just guessing here, but they're probably enemies of Hawkeye and Black widow since those two are equally useless and weak
>>98048920I think they mostly antagonize people like the Hulks, occasionally the Avengers, the Fantastic Four, etc. Their thing has always been that they're actually quite powerful but don't have any grand plans or anything, they just do grunt work for whoever is willing to pay.
>>98048840>He forgot about the monster hunter SLD
>>98048686>Marvel and mtg are so unoriginal that we instantly have multiple cards named abomination and titania after they do a crossoverlol
>I play mind stone
>i play THE mind stone
>>98049003I said typos not lazy reprints
>>98049023Monster hunter is somehow not UB now? I accept your concession
>>98049021What's the infinity gauntlet going to do? >Tap : you win the game and the following one if you control all infinity stones
>>98049032When did i say it wasnt?
>>98049003The rework better have hot chicks wearing stuff like Kirin and Narga armor.
>>98049043The IG will be an equipment that happens to have an alternate wincon
>>98049043>>98049189>IG 0 mana artifact that has no stats>if all stones are on the battlefield under your control, you may activate IG's ability: Snap>Snap - exile half of all opponents creatures, enchantments, artifacts, lands, libraries, and graveyards
>>98046575edh with randos truly is gay baby jail hellI'm so happy I play with people I know
>>98049241I've almost taken joy from fucking with randos.>ask what they want to play>they just mumble "whatever">ask them if they prefer high power or low power stuff>another "whatever" squeaks out>play stuff that is undeniably obnoxious like Eldrazi, Slivers, etc>warn them it's strong and I could play something else>no response>proceed to do things like Sliver Queen + Harmonic + Ashnod for infinite destruction of artifacts and enchantments>insane levels of salt occur
>>98049298
>>98049021Mind stoning deez nuts lmao
>>98049298>weak mumblings of "whatever">no spine to speak up at all>or have any social skills for that matter>insane levels of screeching over losingLiteral burdens to society
>>98045794Except for aggro and voltron players, they're banned
I've literally never had a problem with randos
>>98049376>go t2 rampant growth, t3 explosive vegetation>hit land drop, get picrel out t4>have no dragons in hand>guess i'll just hit a guy 3 times then>manage to kill a guy t6 unimpeded>said guy kvetches about my deck being too brokenReminder that anyone unironically saying aggro and voltron are broken need to be pilloried without remorse
>>98044730How often do they actually see play?
>>98049399I remember people at my store explicitly not running Karrthus in their dragon decks because they were scared of clones. Fun times.
Me?>Uses kawaii anime art RionyaMy opponents?> Just let me have her for multiple turns
>>98049231>>98049189Will they change the rules so that you can have it as a commander?
>>98049408I switch them up quite frequently
>>98049399>I should be able to play 7 turns no matter what, that is a bracket 4 deck!I've had this said to me by people who did diddly dick to protect themselves and just folded to creatures turning sideways
>>98049399>>98049444This?>Didn't happen
>>98049452There's a lot of retards in our hobby, present company included
>>98049452You should lurk more there are anons here that unironically think a commander killing a single dude t6 is hella busted and not casual
>>98049399Saying "kvetches" unironically>>/pol/
>>98049499>ghosting cuz deluluNo cap you dont pass the vibe check here
Sold all my big money cards and having been hospitalized for a while. I started playing EDH again and while embracing proxying. Having said that. In the 5 months I spent recovering I started playing Nikke. So I want to like do the "alternate frame" thing magic did for the Godzilla cards but for my favorite group of Nikkes: The Goddess Squad. Anyone familiar enough with Nikke to give me an idea of who the commander should be and who each remember should be? I'd like to keep the cards Humans and/or artifact creatures. QRD from left to right in the pic.>Scarlet: Edgy sword girl with a dead sister, fought the leader Lilith twice and lost instantly twice. >Rapunzel: Horney women who was supposed to become the leader of a religion, can "put to rest" the "spirits" of dead nikkes and revive units in game.>Dorothy: Haughty politicians daughter, uses a scifi gun, can cause explosions, second strongest in the squad, source of the Doro meme.>Snow White: Tech genius, fights with a gun, drones and turrets.>Red Hood: "Sniper" she uses sniper rifle in melee range, resisted corruption by a mega virus by force of will, has died at least three times, somehow one of the strongest but actually not.>Liliweiss: The strongest, so strong she damages herself when fighting, can't be repaired, dead, fought by punching shit and flinging energy beams/blades. Can solo her entire squad as well as armies.not pictured>Legendary Commander: Normal human man, has 'magical plot blood' only good at giving advice and orders, loved lilly.
>>98044661dayyyyyyyyum this needs to be a real card actually. with no evasion its not too OP. but would it still have summoning sickness? also do -1/-1 counters/infect damage against it make you discard cards from the top? and what about temporary -1/-1 effects?
>>98049558Before anything are you F2P in nikke?
whats new from Groomers of the Coast? (GōtC?)
>>98049568Yes, well, I buy the monthly gem pack, so that's 5 bucks a month.
>>98049568If the Goddess squad is too man, I did consider Counters as well. The "Main squad" problem is, Counters has gotten more members as the story went on and I don't want to have to keep updating the proxies, Goddess Squad the og one, is done.
https://old.reddit.com/r/EDH/comments/1td2luz/new_guy_to_our_pod_brought_an_antisemitic_elvish/decklist?
>>98049588You didnt have to remind us how much of a pussy redditors are you know
>>98049588>Redditors are humorless retard tranny kikes>In other news: The Sun is hot.
>>98049558>>98049581Just asking because it would be weird to not whale on the og gacha mtg but then whale on a chink gacha eapecially since you were hospitalizedAnyways wotc has made it a point to limit their referencing of grimm's fairy tales even on eldraine so the best you have are cards like ruby good luck finding a 5c commander
>>98049624I had to sell a lot of shit to pay bills while not working. I'm thinking of making this the commander. She kind of fits with Lily, not that any creature really fits her. Lets me be 5C, is not Kennrith, and I believe Party has gotten a little better. My other choice was Breya
>>98049588Around elvesWatch yourselvesGoblins would have fit the jew stereotype better but whatever
>>98049588>This one guy ran a deck with Kros, Defense Contractor as commander and he stacked it with as many voting effects, banking themed cards, and elves.>kept making remarks like "how very elvish of you"It's beautiful.
>>98049588Damn, that guy sounds based as hell.
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>>98048671black widow could at least have trample and haste
