Stop right there /tg/! Have you filled out your tabletop safety checklist yet?
>>98049242You posted my filled out checklist.
>>98049242No since I'm currently not running or playing in any event with strangers.
Session 0 covers this.
>>98049242Traditional games?
"Hey DM, give me a dungeons and dragon's game, but hold the blood, violence against animals, and military violence.""Hold the Violence? Okay, you start in a tavern during a dark and stormy night-""And hold the alcohol, and all natural disasters.""Hey /tg/ this guy wants a D&D game with NOTHIN"
>>98049242Considering I once got told I would be kicked out by a GM telling me I need to shut up and stop complaining or be kicked regarding a player recounting all the disgusting details of their character’s rape via house and the subsequent fetal development of the rape baby, on what was meant to be a safe for work kind of game, I just laugh at this kind of sheet. If the player and-or GM want to be sick fucks, no piece of paper or amount of common sense is going to fucking stop them from inflicting their fetishes on the table. Both the GM and player were trans, funnily enough.
>>98049347Yeah, this is my first time experiencing anything like this. I'm a forever DM and wanted to join a game on the side, I found what I thought was a group of normal people, but this was presented to me unironically, and they were touting it like an enlightened idea that every game should have. fair enough with the tranny stuff, but we already had a word for that, it was called magical realm, and the solution was simple, if the DM is forcing it on an unwilling table, you all leave the game. If its the other players fetish but not yours, you leave the game. But for people who demand the game not include 90% of this shit, they are just trying to dominate, but they're doing it from the false position of victim. It's disgusting, incredibly feminine social manipulation, and nerds have no defense against it, every time you accept something like this without making fun of the freaks who stand by it, you're making the hobby worse for normal guys like me.
>>98049416For what it’s worth, that particular GM was a temp that the game’s regular GM asked to run a few games in his place out of misguided trust. The temp GM got kicked later for other reasons, but my main point was more that sick fucks who want to inflict their magical realm on the table won’t care about other people’s feelings or let any kind of table-wide agreement stop them. Cause I get what the point of the sheets are, but it’s a weak non-confrontational way of dealing with it in my experience that doesn’t deter the people it should be deterring.
>>98049347>GM>Genitally Mutilated
>>98049242That pic being brought up at all is a big red flag that the table will not be fun and just be an unfun minefield to navigate.It may be well intended but it is not a helpful thing but more of a warning of bad future if anything good is to be derived from it.I remember as a teen finding these things satirical in a funny way with fellow buddies now it became reality ten years later.Are we on a crash course where offensive things to a disgusting degree will be the edgy counter culture or are we already there?
>>98049242>>98049286notice how there is no option provided for 'same sex flirting', 'trans ideology', 'awkwardly shoehorned references to marxism' or whatever else fits the personal preferences of the kind of person who would write and/or use this list. It's purely performative.
>>98049451Yeah. 95% of the time these sorts of topics are dragged into a game for an unwilling audience by people who either get a thrill at making others uncomfortable or are simply too autistic to be able to predict others' reactions. Though in all fairness, the safety checklist is also a deeply autistic in how it tries to address the problem. Anyone not on the spectrum or chugging Kool aid knows the best way to resolve this situation is to actually discuss your boundaries like adults.
>>98049485Pretty much. My own group has its taboos about showing some stuff outside of fade to black (torture and sexual stuff aren't a thing that anyone at the table really wants to RP in detail), but we just discussed this like adults rather than taking out a chart.
Sure havehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kp2zuPFOJI
>>98049467I Kek'd >>98049469Yeah I don't want to have to walk around on eggshells, it's always give an inch take a mile with these people. >>98049478Right? It's all so tiring.
>>98049485It's a reasonable thing to have if you're doing a rapid fire thing with people you don't really know, which is basically just quick games at a con or the like. Regular groups? Yeah, can't see this doing anything useful and possibly making things worse when some dingus tries to push something on a technicality.
>>98049242Play with my friends. Don't need it.
>>98049469>Are we on a crash course where offensive things to a disgusting degree will be the edgy counter culture or are we already there?We're already there.
>>98049478>Other
>>98049242the fact that some people consider a bdsm-sex-party tools essential at /tg/ is hilariousbut then you also have that dude that roleplayed raping an android chick
>>98049242I just cannot even imagine playing with sick broken people like this.
>>98049242I like these sheets for pre game. Or at the very least a talk about what is not cool with folks.Sometimes even among friends you might not know all the trauma.
>>98049811>traumaYou fucks should be given ACTUAL trauma so you know what that is.
>>98049242I only play games with adults and a few rules, "Don't be weird. I'm not here to roleplay your fetish. Not here to roleplay your love interest. Sex is all fade to black"
>>98049242>>98049286It must be exhausting living like this. No wonder these people need a dozen different mood stabilizers and anti-psychotics.
>>98049242The problem with this is I can't take this or people like this seriously. I work in pediatric critical care. I just took care of a kid who got his face smashed in by a fucking truck (somehow still pulling through). I can't take the idea that a pretend game involving "imperialism" is somehow threatening to someone's "safety" seriously. Adults that exist in the real world don't do this shit. Nobody has time for this.
I only have/had one, which is in-depth descriptions of pain. But my tolerance for gore is much higher than the average player, so usually it never even comes up.I don’t really like rping romance, even flirting with NPCs feels inappro to me because I feel like I’m imposing on the DM or making shit weird. So I don’t do that unless I’m outright trying to seduce an NPC for a specific reason or mission.Everything else is kinda whatever and I tend to be way more non-chalant about the “intense” shit in my games. I usually write a lot of abusive dynamics among NPCs in games I run as apart of worldbuilding to demonstrate how “savage and brutal” the world is and how much trauma affects NPCs and drives them to those behaviors. It also makes Evil more common in the sense that it’s not all just malice. Sometimes people just crash out and their coping mechanism of abusing others is exactly the thing that keeps them stuck in a rut long-term.
>>98049478Because people who get upset about that stuff are too stupid to play tabletop games.
>>98049242Yeah, I remeber filling something similar like decade ago. I think it was on F-list.Weird that this one does have choice for vomit, but you can't hard no scat and piss.
>>98049917Yeah that's pretty much my problem with it. I've been abused, assaulted and arrested on a false accusation. Those experiences were pretty bad, and I break out in a sweat at the thought of getting dragged anywhere involuntarily, but that's real life. I don't care about experiencing it in fiction, it's just not the same thing at all. If you need a safety checklist for a fucking tabletop game, you aren't equipped to deal with life.
>>98049959>I've been abused, assaulted and arrested on a false accusation.Are you black by any chance?
>>98049286>>98049242>no "yes please, this is my fetish" option
>>98050034No lmao, I caught my girlfriend at the time cheating on me and she went ballistic, threw a bunch of shit at me and then hurt herself, told the cops I was abusing her and it was self defense even though I was bleeding from my scalp. They didn't listen to me at all they just arrested me and put me in jail. She literally confessed the next day but nothing happened to her, not that I wanted anything to do with her after that but fuck man, I have a sore spot for false accusations now, don't think it can't happen to you.
>>98049959Autists tend to have issues distinguishing fiction from reality. Legitimately, that fact combined with the fact that only an autistic person is going think "If I make a form that lists all the gross stuff that could be in a game, I don't need to actually have a discussion with people and can still know their boundaries :)"I say this without malice, the prevalence of autistic people in this hobby goes a long way to explain the popularity of this sort of thing.
>>98050130Really? I've had the opposite experience, with autists generally being the ones who go "if fictional violence is fine then surely fictional rape must be fine too!" and then proceed to not realize how uncomfortable his role playing is making the rest of the table. though I guess this could also be a spectrum thing, like your example is the well meaning autist, and mine is the pushes boundries sperg.
>>98049242WTF is this bullshit?
>>98049286"Nuffin?"
>>98049242No, I’m actually planning on making my table more unsafe by adding booby traps to spring on the players.
>>98049242>demons >vampires >zombies Really ought to be able to add a bit more to the types of enemies category that could also be racism and see if how it makes progressive mindsets contort. Pushing the sensitivity to being types of foes, not necessarily horror based doesn't seem impossible with the right leverage. From there adding whatever standin for xyz irl race you want. >gnomes >brown orcs or whatever as lines, removing them from the game world.
>>98049242> All lines (but one) "Yes please"> The one subject I would really prefer "fade to black" isn't there.Please no porn, violent or not, at my table
>>98049242This is what we get for letting the hobby get popular. That fucking sheet makes it impossible to have a game.
>>98049941Maybe the Whizzard wrote it
>>98051020or it's for SotDL where those things are non-negotiable
>>98050442>booby trapsHonestly, some groups need that.>>98050983>impossible to have a gameI've been in three different games that used the chart (not the MCDM one, an earlier version) as a conversation starter, and not only did the games continue normally, they were pretty good! We even had stuff come up during sessions that, because we had explicitly talked about discomfort at the start of the campaign, people felt more open to discussing it and finding reasonable approaches together.Paraphrased from one of the games: "One of the players nearly died from spider bites as a kid, and now has severe arachnophobia? Alright, we can nix any spiders from future encounters. Oh, you don't mind them existing or being a threat, just maybe don't describe them in graphic detail? Yeah, that works, thanks."It is only impossible if you have people that are trying to make it impossible, and the solution for them is to say "Sorry, this game is going to be a poor fit for you."
>>98049242Why is there no option it's fine whatever? Why there's only "no" and "yes, but" options?
>>98049242>Tick 'Not My PC' box for everything>Win the game session 0 as I am now indestructible
>>98051222you're supposed to leave it empty if you don't give a shit
>>98051202Maybe a game about being violent genocidal grave robbers isnt something people with those types of issues should avoid in the first place. I'll say it again they should have been gatekeeper out from the start.
>>98051291>become herald of doom that can't be harmed and brings misfortune for all around him>many brave heroes rise to dispose of you but none succeeds, your meta-resistances are flawless and impenatrable>now people just flee when you approach abandoning their livelihoods just to save their lives>none will harm you, and none will welcome you, if you catch a glimpse of another person it's only as they are fleeing over the horizon
>>98051368>erm actually you aren't allowed to do that dm, this is really triggering my separation anxiety which I added to one of the blank boxes.
>>98049242I see they revised it so Spiders wasn't on there twice.
>>98051420>everyone has to stay near and appease you anyway despite the terror underneathThe cornfield kid from Twilight Zone probably isn't the best template for a PC but sure, why not.
>>98049242This has happened to me a few times in PUGs. The way I handle it is as such:>all players are expected to not disrupt the game>this is a disruption>you don't have to leave, but...>if you stay, you are expected to not disrupt the game
>>98049274Having people in your group who can separate fiction from reality covers this.
>>98049469One of my favorites was when I ICly called an NPC a cunt and some fag was like "DONT USE THE C WORD" and I said "what c word? c-nigger?" good times
>>98050130Trust me, we don't. The ones that do are ones that are profoundly retarded for unrelated reasons.
>>98051802Literally the best way to handle it, I'm also one to ask "Did you come here to play, or did you come here to start a fight?"
>>98049242My table uses X cards. I find it's easier to use since you don't need to go through every possible offensive thing.Ofc my table has never actually used them throughout the entire game.I do have lines, but those lines are so high that if I had to tell others not to cross them, then they're not people I want to be playing with.
ROLL dice+3d78 !Your next adventure will be based on those 3 themes.Hi from cyoag.
Rolled 47, 51, 72 = 170 (3d78)>>98053053I don't play ttrpgs myself. So I'm rolling for the world that I'm getting isekai'd to.
Rolled 3, 75, 46 = 124 (3d78)>>98053053Rollin'
>>98053058>47 Dementia>51 Paralysis>72 TsunamiA poor fishing village. The sea is sapient, or something in it is, and when it gets angry, it sends a devastating tsunami.Now and then, a person is chosen for sacrifice; he is given paralytic toxin so he can't struggle, and he's thrown into the sea. This keeps the tsunamis at bay.By tradition, it's young people who must be sacrificed. So the village by now consists overwhelmingly of demented old people.
Rolled 74, 45, 46 = 165 (3d78)>>98053053Rollin
>>98052375Painting too broad a brush imo. As >>98050144 mentioned, there's the naive, but well-meaning autist, and there's the boundary pushing spegs. These two tend to be naturally opposed.
>>98053093>Light flirting>Amputation>CancerYour adventure starts in a home for retired adventurers. You begin as a young man helping out veterans of various dungeons who escaped with their lives but were maimed in other ways or suffered various effects of magic, like magical tumors. Tales of their past glories fill your head and with some encouragement from the residents, you decide to ask the pretty young Cleric in training who you swear has been makkng eyes at you to join you on your own adventure together.
>>98049469The minefield analogy is spot on, 99.9% of it is just self righteous dickheads with the mentality of a bored HOA housewife. They don't actually want you to comply, they want someone to call them out so they can have a nice carthartic shout about it and get lots of nice attention because the big mean person bullied then.A buddy of mine played in a vampire game where someone actually listed 'blood' on their safety check card as a no. Why the fuck he bothered with that one I'll never know, but it fell apart in short order anyway.
>>98053060>Body Horror>Horny Flirting>CancerSci-fi game where a Zerg-esq abomination-species falls in love with humanity as a whole leading to us being uplifted.Organic ships spreading across the stars, their Captains slowly giving up their humanity as they're transformed into something more and less than human by interfacing with them.Other species exist and have a history with the Abomination, but because we use her as an interface to communicate with them she just leaves out any thing inconvenient or that'd 'make us upset'The high tech healing is as much Thing-ification as it is repairing the body, though she rarely assumes direct control of those who are under her spell because she's learned, through countless aeons of being alone, to adore the idea of there being things beyond herself, as unique, fleeting and remarkable to her as snowflakes are to us, and with all of the rest of the Galaxy as her enemy, humanity is her last chance to truly be connected to another species rather than simply consuming it.Centuries of space exploration, countless worlds conquered, billions upon billions of lives changed forever.And all just part of an extremely long con by their impossibly ancient broodmother to get her some of that good dick.
>>98053053Children, Storm, Domestic ViolenceIt was a dark and stormy night, and daddy'd been drinking...
>>98053053You know, come to think of it, I've seen worse approaches to Adventure generators.
>>98053079On second thought, this is too generic. I'll try again.>47 Dementia>51 Paralysis>72 TsunamiFantasy mediterranean setting. There's an island with medusas, they are the big bad of your setting. The medusas petrify humans and build houses and walls and palaces from them, they have entire cities built this way. It's a status/vanity thing for the medusas. [paralysis]But humans are planning a solution. Human wizards have come up with a Spell of Tsunami, powerful enough to destroy the whole medusa island and kill most of them. It's a very intricate ritual though, you need to infiltrate the island and set various preconditions in place (draw glyphs on walls?), or the spell can't happen. [tsunami]You infiltrate the medusa island by being taken in as a slave by a demented old medusa lady. By manipulating her addled mind, you may have enough leeway in your goings and doings to set the ritual in place. And then, before it actually happens, you better find a way to escape the island. [dementia]
>>98049242OK /tg/ real talk.No trolling.Having "imperialism" "military violence" "prison" "vampires" "zombies" "vomit" and shit like that listed alongside actual real problems is honestly an insult to the people actually suffering from those problems.
The American Empire is dying and most of Europe will Muslim in 30 years. So in a certain sense I understand the current trend towards escapism. You don't want to commit to an RPG you don't find fun and have stuff you don't like shoved in your face for several hours a week.This is also why WoD was the big DnD alternative in the 90's and 00's but mostly disappeared since. The idea of being a shittier version of the real world suddenly lost its appeal once we hit the Great Recession era and realized Obama wasn't going to wind down the GWOT.
>>98049242I hate tumblrinas that forced this onto ttrpg
>>98053455The exodus from tumblr caused by the porn ban has had dire consequences for all levels of culture and politics.
>>98049416>and the solution was simple, if the DM is forcing it on an unwilling table, you all leave the game. If its the other players fetish but not yours, you leave the game.it's a formalized agreement sheet for session zero. nobody wants to go through the first few sessions only for some depraved fuck to start mentioning period blood while you're sipping bloody mary. you can leave, but that's a ton of wasted hours. >It's disgusting, incredibly feminine social manipulation so, you manned up and said no, right? or are you coming here to gossip about it like some kind of a two-faced bitch while mumbling a half-assed agreement in real life?
>>98049242>meme shit designed to score good boy points as easy advertising
>>98053946>>98053946>it's a formalized agreement sheet for session zero. nobody wants to go through the first few sessions only for some depraved fuck to start mentioning period blood while you're sipping bloody mary. you can leave, but that's a ton of wasted hours.The formalization of adult communication in a kindergarten manner is a red flag, and attracts the types of people I don't want to play with. Alsoas >>98049347mentioned, no amount of paper will stop this kind of person, which is the only thing that would make me quit and waste my time anyway. >so, you manned up and said no, right? or are you coming here to gossip about it like some kind of a two-faced bitch while mumbling a half-assed agreement in real life?Of course I did, I literally made the same joke I made here >>98049286and left. I posted here because of the people who go "how does this effect you personally" or "this never happens"
Rolled 60, 48, 49 = 157 (3d78)The thing that annoys me most about this faggotry is that they have the gall to equate their thought policing with "safety". If you feel personally unsafe IRL because something bad happened to a fictional person in a made-up game then that's a you problem.>>98053053
>>98054504>Miscarriage>Drugs>"Insanity" (why the scare quotes?)The Queen's behavior is becoming increasingly erratic because of her repeated failures to produce an heir, and she's starting to become everyone's problem. The cause of the miscarriages is that she's secretly being drugged by one of the noble families in hopes that the king will choose one of their daughters to continue the royal bloodline.
>>98054556>"Insanity" (why the scare quotes?)Separating fantasy insanity from irl insanity is sensible imo. Irl delusions follow certain patterns (eg extreme paranoia about being assassinated so you imagine yourself being assassinated in obviously implausible ways and this comes to dominate your decision-making at all times), it's usually a perverse and absurd extension of a sentiment also felt by healthy people (fear of being murdered by someone who has a grudge against you and has murdered people in the past, and has access to your kitchen staff). A lot of irl delusions are like depth-first search, in situations where sound mind means breadth-first. Fantasy delusions often feel made up on the spot, they don't "extend" from anything.
>>98054046>The formalization of adult communication in a kindergarten manner is a red flagIt's all about efficiency, you fill the form once and re-use it across any number of groups, in online play you can even script auto comparisons vs other people's preferences.
>>98049554We were already there in 1995 anon
>>98049587>thinking tranny obsessers can read that much
>>98054703So, it’s about no actual communication then, just filters upon filters like the average twitter convo. Gee, sounds appealing.
>>98054556>(why the scare quotes?)Presumably because it's focusing more on the Lovecraftian "One minute I was calm and then a Welshman came along and boy did that make me lose my fucking shit" or Hollywood-esq "Hahahah, Society, am I right?" than actual mental illness.That and the author probably considers "Insanity" a slur word, like they do with retard.
>>98054785The actual communication is reserved for those who pass the filter. There's more people in the hobby than I have time to get personally acquainted with, so pre-filtering comes handy.
>>98054890That sounds incredibly snobbish, and makes me glad people like you are filtering yourself out of the hobby.
>>98054920Frankly, I would not want to meet you in person either.
>>98054703If that's the case then, filtering people who use this is even more efficient than having to fill it out once.
Guys, I have decided to update the safety checklist. I believe this will solve all problems.
>>98055314Yes, not playing with nogames who get upset about solves a lot of problems.
>>98049242>Apocalypse>Not My PC
Rolled 39, 35, 68 = 142 (3d78)>>98053053Rollan
>/tg/ sees a way to easily filter out people they don't want at the table and chooses to shit their pants about it
>>98049242THESE ARE A FEW OF MY FAVOURITE THIIIIINGS!
Rolled 69, 37, 67 = 173 (3d78)>>98053053ROLLIN
>>98059338>Harm to children>Earthquakes>heritage (hatred)The earth elementals have been enraged, they aim to destroy humanity whole. You and a couple brave warriors escort whats left of the children and women of your tribe to the ice lands in the northern continent, away from the menace of the earth elementals.You are the last hope for your tribe.
>>98057128That just means it’s a very effective filter.
