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Previous: >>98044661

Lurking Edition

>Most recent banlist update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com
https://www.pdhrec.com

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>TQ
What's your favored way to cheat creatures into play?
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>no furry porn in the OP
Holy based
TQ
Mikey and Ralph are better than you think
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>>98049721
>Do a thing
>Get a thing for free
>Good
Yeah no shit.
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>>98049687
>What's your favored way to cheat creatures into play?
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This was infinitely better than what we ended up getting.
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>>98049735
Are we absolutely sure that swords to plowshares can be classified a low power card? It seems to me that it is one of the best removal spells ever printed.
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>>98049743
>Are we absolutely sure that fatal push can be classified a low power card? It seems to me that it is one of the best removal spells ever printed.
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>>98049735
If you were only a little smarter you'd realize that vampiric tutor is actually a 1 and dismantles your entire argument
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Gay Bolas is here.
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>>98049767
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ban sol ring
ban rhystic study
ban tutors (yes, all of them)
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>>98049687
>TQ
Name a better cheat. I dare you.
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>>98049765
>I NEED IT
"People" like you are exactly why this system was necessary.
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>TQ
Not wildly valuable cheating but the most fun
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What is a good rule for average mana cost per bracket? Is it something like this?

>cEDH 1.5
>bracket 4 2+
>bracket 3 3+
>bracket 2 4+
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>>98049798
Decklist?
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>>98049801
>PEOPLE SHOULD READ MY MIND AND KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO RESTRAIN THEMSELVES IN A CHILDREN'S CARD GAME
Who the hell do you think you are lmao
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>>98049809
Making winning a bad thing in a competitive game was a massive mistake
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>>98049816
Thanks sheldon!
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>>98049809
Good thing there was a proposed system to fix that while mind-reading issue, only for it to get scrapped because retards really, really wanted Isochron Scepter + Dramatic Reversal in all brackets.
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>>98049798
>i make edgy jokes
Nobody who says this online should be trusted.
Besides, if the elves are supposed to be kikes and he was the one using removal against them HE is the anti-semetic one. Sounds like the guy who made the deck respected and approved of elves and this guy is just projecting his own anti-semetic beliefs onto him.
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>>98049803
This not being instant speed ruins it for me.
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>>98049836
This is some shit someone who started playing magic 2 years ago would say.
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>>98049827
If you were a little smarter you'd also realize that hemming and hawing about combo A B or C was never the issue, but rather when you do it
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>>98049798
IT WAS ONLY 271K GOBLINS
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>>98049848
>My combo is lategame guys! I swear I never draw both parts early!
YES. PLEASE. TEN MORE YEARS OF PEOPLE COPING ABOUT HOW THEIR DECK "DOESN'T USUALLY DO THIS".
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>>98049858
>nope you are forced to sandbag it
>play whatever combo you like, just play it on your turn 9 in b2
Simple and clean, but naturally you're autistic enough to make your gaming life way harder than it should be
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>>98049848
I have literally never seen a "lategame" Isochron Scepter combo that people actually played. It's ALWAYS some theoretical shit a retard cooked up to defend Isochron Scepter.
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>>98049767
maid Bolas is here
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>>98049767
in the replies, where he belongs
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>>98049735
>Gratuitous escriban Espanol en la loco motive arena
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>>98049728
one of the og titan combos, I always loved it
this+titan+sac is one of my favs
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>>98049767
The only anon that put the actual work into realizing his vision for the story, and now it's canon.
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>>98049767
THE HERO RETURNS
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>>98049687
>What's your favored way to cheat creatures into play?
I cast Polymorph and turn my token into a big guy
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>>98049865
Yes I'm sure waiting until turn 8 suddenly makes a 4 mana combo the same power as a 10 mana combo. I can't think of any way having more mana open during your combo turn might be beneficial.
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>>98049846
How so? Would it not be better at instant speed?
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>>98049880
this,shoving him in the op takes away all the fun of posting him
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>>98049767
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>>98049928
>aaaaiiieeeee some cards are better than others!
This is why i know you're a dumbass casual, because you are painfully unaware that this isnt the first time wotc tried to curb power level via arbitrary turns
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>>98049930
Yeah, that would make it absurdly powerful and dare I say it unbalanced.
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>>98049957
>Yeah bro these cards don't need a ban. They're just game-warpingly powerful
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>>98049964
Correct thoracle is rightfully a GC, your point again?
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Okay so we banned Jeweled Lotus but we ain't banning LED or Dark Ritual or Mana Vault?

Is it too much to ask for consistency with these bans
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>>98049973
>Isochron Scepter? No we were always talking about Thoracle!
MEDS. NOW.
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>>98049981
>crying about isochron
Yep, filthy casual
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>>98049977
you leave my ritual alone nigger
the others I don't care
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>>98050000
>I NEED IT!!!
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How do you stop making decks bros?
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>>98050002
Dark Ritual has zero inarguable flaws and is a must-use in 100% of black decks who's goal is to win.

It's the literal textbook definition of a banworthy card.
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>>98050010
I'm poor
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>>98050009
>>98049809
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>>98049977
I agree.
We can ban 90% of fast mana and the game gets better.
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100 cards is 40 too many.
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>>98049977
Yes, just like how Sol Ring is not a game changer
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>>98050014
nah cuz it's cool
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>>98049809
>Solidifying rules specifically so that mind reading and mental gymnastics aren't required is... asking players to read minds.
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>>98050097
>asking players to read minds
Nah bro i'm just referring to wotc's brackets and simplifying it to where a TO wont lose his mind arguing against autism
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>>98049977
bro shut the fuck up
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>>98050117
In what universe is a banlist more complex than deciding whether a wincon was "telegraphed on the board?"
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>>98050143
GCs are banned in b2 btw
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>>98050146
So two additional GC lists for two additional brackets is too complex... how?
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>>98050153
>two additional brackets
Having 7 brackets is more complex than 5 is it not?
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>>98049798
This story was fabricated for attention and virtue-signaling.
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>>98050158
Did you not look at the image or are you only pretending to be retarded?
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>>98050163
You're the one who thinks expectations are hard rules not what you would see in a low powered meta, you think walkers arent telegraphed as fuck and are rightly a b2 deck? Retard
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>>98050179
>If I keep strawmanning I'll win the argument
By your own logic if Isochron Scepter turn 8 is fine in bracket 2, then 3 mana open in artifacts is sufficient telegraph that someone could win at any time and I doubt most players would agree.
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>>98050193
>i cannot handle a turn 9 infinite win attempt in b2 it's simply too much for me and my other 2 opponents
Yes we already know you're a filthy casual
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>>98050199
>I'm a braindead nigger please rape my face
I accept your concession.
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>>98050117
Who /pubstomper/ here?
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>>98050202
>....fuck he's right
>...you're a nigger!
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the only fair way to win EDH is by beating everyone to death with creatures

Combos are for faggots
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>>98050208
It's okay anon I already accepted your concession since you had no argument.
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>>98050211
dishonest card
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Post honest wincons. I'll start.
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>>98050214
Sure baby boy whatever you say sheldon's ghost is here to protect you from the evil infinites while playing rhystic study and asking you to pay the 1
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>>98049687
Based thread.
>What's your favored way to cheat creatures into play?
You can't beat Cascade. Fun, wacky and (relatively) fair.
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>>98050218
I am honest in my intentions: beating you to death with large creatures. If you cannot stop a 2/2 before it gets a chance to swing, that's on you.
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>>98050235
Anon please I'm flattered you're still going but there's no more need.
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>>98050244
There's no need for retards like you that's for sure haha
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>>98050247
Haha! Good one anon! That's kinda cute!
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>>98050251
Now THAT'S a concession accepted!
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>>98050255
Happy to help anon!
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>>98050229
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>>98050229
Free it from the GC list.
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>>98050229
better than you'd guess
>>98050243
whenever I see a lone card posted I fear pds is going in one of his spamming sprees
truly interesting characters we have here
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>>98050281
>PDS falseflagging again because he didn't get his furry porn in the OP
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>>98050283
wym? pds is the one who put the link or the one who don't?
we got no link now so it follows the one who spams wants the link, no?
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>>98050291
>Thread now full of great discussion since PDS didn't get his furry porn in the OP
>PDS now trying to falseflag and say that thread is being spammed
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>>98049687
yeah i play counterfeit duals
yeah i pass them off as real for street cred
so what?
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>>98050298
>Bracket shitposting and bait for the 10000th time is "great discussion"
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>>98050229
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>>98050298
you mean me here?>>98050281
I did not say that
why would pds denounce the thread being spammed if he would be the one spamming, since the thread doesn't have the links and he wants them? (as you just said)
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>>98050319
>Nobody is spamming. Thread is the best it has ever been
>PDS: "THE THREAD IS BEING SPAMMED BY PDS!"
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You need a commander? Why not Orvar?
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>>98050331
I did not say that...your line has no logic
wait a sec
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>98050378
Oh, but I did. It's very fun, if extremely commander centric. But they did give us a second commander. I don't know how to search for it besides Long term plans
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>>98050378
Who is tentacle?
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>>98049767
>Filename is just from the OP link
False alarm. Imitation Gay Bolas poster. Still respectable.
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>>98050281
Furries truly are objectively the worst people. At least he's restrained himself to samefagging a post instead of sharting all over the thread this time.
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>>98050495
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>>98050572
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>>98050465
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>>98050378
I don't know why the human and god legendaries of KHM were emphasized when all the ones not associated with those tribes were so much cooler.
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>>98049687
>TQ
Defense of the Heart
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>>98050229
Absolute Chad choice.
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Deck Check
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>>98050693
Neat deck, I give it a 96/100
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>>98050667
Come on, everypony!
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>>98050229
Holy shit 6 power at 6 mana? This card is FIRE.
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Anyone ever see this built as a voltron? auras and equips that can be sacced if needed and some creature generators for the rest
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>>98050719
Voltron wants to keep its clothes on; I can see running it with a bunch of living equipment effects to have more stuff to sac, but it would never be "voltron".
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>>98050229
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>>98050229
Minus Thoracle of course
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>>98050719
It might be interesting but it also seems like it'll always be a secondary plan that you maybe pull off after clearing the board of obstacles. You could probably find some stuff that bridges that gap. I immediately thought of rancor.
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>>98050807
this and rancor were sort of the idea.The more I think of it though the less it makes sense
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>>98050719
Lol no
Wars of attrition or bust for the Brothers
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>>98050876
woof that is a well-loved card right there
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>>98050886
Sleeved playable is all I need card condition is for bad players
...and theyre cheaper
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>>98050825
Did not realize one of my all time favorite auras got a reprint. Vastly prefer the original, the Fallen Angel reference is kino
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I like Kasla because she's a lightning angel in the command zone but there's something awfully tacky about how narrow the rest of her text is.
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>>98050905
nigga you have a fucking Chains of Mephistopheles and what looks like a black bordered Badlands, shut the fuck up
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>>98050907
Today, I will make them remember
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>>98050923
I don't like that she is black
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>>98050923
Agreed, but it did lead to my buddy btfo-ing me with a card I've been dismissively riffling past in my collection since 2006
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>>98049912
this doesn't apply to xianxia where they spend 1000 chaos cycles (1 chaos cycle = the time between the birth and heat death of 1 universe) between each encounter
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>>98050931
The chains is damaged with a coin indent in the back and the Badlands is uhhhhh...yeah
Got it for $20 pre 2016ish and Ive never been called on it in a tournament.
Sleeved playable sir. As cheap as I fucking can.
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>>98050944
ok gayfag
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>>98050964
what does a foreign language Chains do for your gameplay beyond frustrating everyone to no end the second you play it
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>>98050969
Italian black boardered revised is cheapest you can get...Im not bullshitting I usually just get the cheapest ones I can find of actual valued cards
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>>98050946
>CoV-G in response to Blasphemous Act
>Hell, CoV-G in response to your own Blasphemous Act
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>>98051002
what do you think that would accomplish
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>>98051002
>by creatures
There's a reason it took 20 years for me to get rekt by it
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>>98050967
I can smell the burnt rubber and weed from here
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>>98051014
>burnt rubber
What?
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>>98050946
>>98051008
>btfo
>by lifegain fog
Huh?
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>>98051019
They smell like burning rubber
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>>98051031
What?
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>>98051031
I don't think you've met a black person in real life.
Or your nose is broken.
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Come to think of it I suppose Zendikar angels might smell kinda like ozone because their halos seem to be burning without fuel, so it's kinda like having electrical sparks about them at all times.
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>>98051026
Fog alone can btfo in a combat meta but it's more the style points of doing it with an objectively awful card, getting life and value, counterswinging to remove me from the game, and being poised to win against the remaining player.

It was a very memorable game, I went from all but assured victory to dead because of a shitty uncommon from 2006.
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>$150 card comes in today
>it's fake
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Which way edhg man?
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>>98051031
>when you try to fit in by being an ebin racist but you just look retarded even to the other racists
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>>98050946
Getting btfo by some overlooked piece of bulk is a shared experience in the format. It's happened to everyone at least once.
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>>98051154
I remember using this as my primary wincon in standard during like Innistrad-RTR block.
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New Capenna's angels are pretty aesthetic.
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>>98051187
I am so mad that art is on an unplayable bulk common while the mythic angel in the set looks like shit.
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>>98051196
eh she's ok.
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>>98051196
I guess I'm too stupid for watermarks because I don't get why she's got one.
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>>98051187
Probably the best set in recent memory from an aesthetic standpoint
Could have been perfect if it weren't for the "no guns allowed" autism
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>>98051217
It used Shield counters, which is the Brokers mechanic in the set, so it gets their watermark. I personally don't think it makes a ton of sense here, but that is usually the rule. Goes back to Ravnica, the first set to use watermarks, where the requirement for watermark was "multicolored in that guild or uses the guild keyword". Don't think that standard works as well in Capenna.
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>>98050378
I already built him. He's cool. It's fun playing dry erase tribal with him.
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>>98051223
Is the problem with the guns that they don't look gunny enough?
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For Quandrix giving cascade to instants and sorceries cast from hand, if you overload a Cyclonic Rift, you still only cascade for 2, right?
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>>98051256
Yeah just a little too "we don't want these to look like guns." Not nearly as bad as the Thunder Junction bullshit but not quite to the sweet spot of the Nightstalkers' firearms where it's obviously fantasy but still obviously a rifle.
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>>98050378
I built him as a bobblehead deck. It doesn't win.

>I maek nu bobelhed
And no, I have never won with the luck bobble head. That shit is impossible.
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>>98050419
The tentacles are also Orvar. He's an SSS-tier shapeshifter who mastered the secret viking ninjutsu of splitting himself into several bodies that are all shapeshifters. For some reason he mostly uses these powers to turn himself into fish.
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>>98051273
I haven't given it much thought before but I have to agree that fantasy musket really is the sweet spot.
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>>98051262
Yes, mana value does not consider alternate costs. It will only vary with X spells.
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>>98051274
>It doesn't win
Really? You never grinded out and managed to get some game through Agility Bobblehead giving pseudo unlockable and Strength Bobblehead or Endurance Bobblehead giving buffs? I've had some games go in my favorite because of those an nail a few last shots with them.
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>>98051311
Yeah like once or twice. Rarely happens but it has like a couple of times
The deck is extremely casual and budget. My friends built it for me as a "sorry your family member died" gift.
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>POV: You're playing blue
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>>98051326
>AI
I can find plenty of taker POV without garbage AI
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>>98051299
ty for confirming
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>>98051330
>Didn't deny being a fag into it
Typical bluefag
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>>98051346
Welcome to 4chan
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What's the real reason wotc doesn't allow guns? It can't be "real world tech" because they have cars and stoplights and spaceships now.
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>>98051366
It wasn't even the tech, it was the fact they are weapons, and columbine happened when magic was really shooting up.
So, politics.
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>NOOOO DON'T INTERACT WITH ME!!!
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>>98051366
It's because they're in Seattle and have lefty anti-gun political beliefs. That was the real reason in the 90s and it's been unquestioned tradition ever since.
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>>98051388
You could always just unsub from him
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>>98051388
Please stop advertising here
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>>98051388
Why do people say "the game is taking too long." Do you not like the game? Why do you want it to end?
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>>98051388
>JUST LET ME WIN! I OVEREXTENDED! I DESERVE TO WIN!
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>>98051187
I never paid much attention to New Capenna, I'm not a big fan of that vibe, but I've clearly been a bit foolish and have been missing out on some great art
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>>98051101
Tcgplayer?
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>>98051388
This but unironically
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>>98051425
At least the sweat is honest that he wants to win
The filthy casual will demand you let him win and will admonish you for putting up any resistance
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>>98051460
Ebay, same shit though
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>>98051500
You have to tell us what card.



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