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Dina edition

>Stream link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT8_n61ehvg

>Bans
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-march-23-2026

>News
The Pro Tour and Magic Spotlight Series in 2026:
https://www.magic.gg/news/the-pro-tour-and-magic-spotlight-series-in-2026

Metagame Mentor: The Final Four Standard Regional Championships of Early 2026:
https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-final-four-standard-regional-championships-of-early-2026

>Spoilers
http://www.magicspoiler.com/
https://mythicspoiler.com/

CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES
>Current meta, complete with deck lists
https://www.mtgtop8.com/
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/
>Build and share casual decks
https://deckstats.net/
https://tappedout.net/

CUBE RESOURCES
>Build and share Cubes
https://cubecobra.com/landing

CARD RESOURCES
>Search engines
https://scryfall.com/
https://mtg.wtf/

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://www.makeplayingcards.com/
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Play online for free
https://untap.in/
https://dr4ft.info/

>What is EDH?
https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1

>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.
https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963

>WotC's War Crimes
https://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)
https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)

>Previously
>>98029708

>TQ
Who is your favorite Strixhaven character?
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>tq
They're all terrible but Kasmina is the least terrible.
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>>98052370
She's a War of the Spark character
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Embrace tradition.
Come back to Premodern, /tg/.
Come back home...
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>>98052383
Isn't there another thread you can infest?
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>>98052383
I just ordered a white weenie deck
I'm coming home /mtg/....
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>>98052365
>tq
Patchy
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>>98052474
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>>98052398
brazil has always been a weird country for vidya, TTG and TCG's.

They're the only large country that speaks portugeuse and I often see that they have to pirate and bootleg their own rules or miniatures to play a game. Usually cause companies don't want to invest.
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>>98052383
why was this card canceled again?
Were the crusades too ofensive or was is the "all white" part?
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>>98052474
Hows the transition going
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>>98052383
I went 4-0 with RG Goblins in the monthly Premodern tournament tonight. I came back home, indeed...
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>>98052365
>TQ
Quintorius. I like elephants and I like his archeologist/historian gimmick. Plus I'm interested in his studies of the Fomori.
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I don't get it, how are cards this chronologically close allowed to be strictly better than others
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>>98052806
If I were to play devil's advocate and try to come up with a plausible answer for you, my guess would be that it's to account for the limited balance of the set it's in. Maybe the one on the right is meant to be a very desirable rare removal option, one of black's best picks, and the one on the left is just meant to be chaff. Also I'd point out that one's common, one's uncommon, and one's rare, so it's to be expected that the rare is the best of the three.

but nah fuck jotc desu nosewater should hang either way
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>>98052816
>one is rare
Ah fug I really really thought right was uncommon
Then it makes sense I guess
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>>98052383
>Look into pre-modern
>Still uses modern FIRE rules
>Damage not on the stack
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>>98052365
>TQ
New character? None.
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>>98052960
Why isn't she BG?
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Retürn tø Käldheim
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>>98052365
Reality Fracture would be the perfect opportunity to give us glimpses into the Mirrodin Pure timeline.
So WotC will obviously not do it in favour of "nostalgia" for a Covid era set
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>>98052988
Come to think of it gods as a tribe are surprisingly cheap. I mean in total, not just the KHM ones. Over half of them cost 4 or less. Contrast angels, demons, dragons, giants and more, the majority of their cards cost 5 or more. But of course that has to be weighted against rarity.
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>>98052988
Where is my Sun Titan?
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>>98053205
It was rather rude of them to give Kroxa and Uro the treatment while omitting Phlage.
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>>98053205
>is called primeval
>isn't elder type
Fudged up
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>>98052566
Does this answer your question?
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>>98053230
phlage didn't exist at the time
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>>98053430
Well shit you're right. I'd assumed it debuted in THB alongside the other two.
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>>98052365
>TQ
Bring back my boy, Blech just loafs around for 3 of the 5 creature types.
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>>98052573
I am finally clear of slop in my blood, mahjong is fun!
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>>98052816
why not reprint at that point?
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>>98052806
Mob and Vote Out are comparable with Mob probably being a bit better because it's an Instant.
Mob is over half a decade older than Vote Out and Pile On.

Pile On is actually older than Vote Out as well which makes the image slightly misleading in my opinion.

As pointed out, Pile On is rare which makes it a Murder vs Hero's Downfall situation (2012 vs 2013).

For a real egregious look at strictly better, look at Level Up vs Seismic Tutelage
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>>98052806
What I'd like to know is what dope decided that convoke was to be in every color. It made perfect sense that it was only in green and white.
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>>98053997
It makes perfect sense for blue, and if it makes sense for blue then it also makes sense for black, and it'd be unfair if only red was left without, so better give it to everybody.
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Trying to get into Magic with Forge. There sure are a lot of rule formats.
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>>98054016
>It makes perfect sense for blue
I guess anything does as long as maro is in charge.
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>>98053089
The first few cycles of gods were often not usable as creatures outside of certain conditions. This includes both the Theros and Amonkhet gods (as well as the THB ones). JotC seemed to decide to pivot gods to just be resilient with either indestructible or another form of recursion (HoD gods, Ixalan gods, God Eternals, etc...) but those ones now have higher CMCs that are more appropriate for the creature type.
Kaldheim gods are anomalies presumably because of how the Norse pantheon was viewed.
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>>98054208
Kaldheim's are meant to evoke the gods as they were in the myths, which was mostly just "extremely powerful immortals" and not "literally creator gods". Like, the creator in Norse myth is Ymir, functionally, not Odin or anything. Greek myth has a similar thing but they're a lot more "above the mortals" in a sense.
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>>98053997
Back in the day WotC limited the number of mechanics a given set can use instea of throwing 1000 keywords into a standard legal product, so one day they decided to make a Core Set with convoke as the 1 featured mechanic
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>>98053230
>Phlage
What kind of idiot came up with this name? I'm certain it never got confused with Phage.
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>>98053089
Kaldheim gods are kinda weak. I mean Vorinclex didn't so much stomp Esika as just casually stroll over her, and she nearly died from it. You couldn't really see the same happen to anyone from Theros or Amonkhet.
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>>98053997
White is the Gaza of Magic. Eventually JOTC blue settlers are going to take everything from White.
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Japanese small tournament has invented the new deck tech for standard storm
It wins on the spot, can be turn 4 with ramp piece, otherwise clears way with duress and removal t5 kill, immune to creature removal unlike storm splitter combo

it goes:

>Tap cursed recording
>Cast beseech the mirror, sacrificing recording - storm 1
>{now have 2x bargained beseech on stack}
>1st beseech gets recording
>tap recording
>2nd beseech gets another beseech, sacrificing recording - storm 2
>{now have 2x bargained beseech on stack again}
>1st beseech gets Fix What's Broken, X=4, getting back 2x cursed recordings - storm 3
>tap both recordings
>2nd beseech gets another beseech - storm 4
>{now have 3x copies of bargained beseech}
>1st beseech gets Vile Entomber, putting Thousand Year Storm into the graveyard
>2nd beseech gets reenact the crime on Thousand Year Storm (!!!) - storm 5
>3rd beseech gets beseech sacrificing recording. Or reenact the crime on beseech and everything else at the same time. - storm 6+

You now get 6+ copies of bargained beseech, each spell you cast triggering thousand year storm so even if all you cast with the first two was burst lightning you'll get 13 copies, but other spells like tweeze do it

Overall you start this combo with:
>5+ life, cursed recording on board and beseech in hand and 4 lands
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>>98052439
BASED.
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>>98052854
>he's still playing with the nufag stack rules
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>>98053205
White is being phased out of MTG so no White Titan. Also the weakest Titan too. JotC never prints good white cards.
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wow most all of the secret lairs still aviable, they really did crash the Merry go round, i wonder how will Maro cope saying there is no product issue
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>>98054717
They'll just print less and say that they sold out.
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>muh Terese Nielsen
>muh Scott M. Fischer
>muh Donato Giancola
>muh Richard Kane Ferguson
all beaten by Hatori Kyoka, known for her art from high prolific games such as Battle Spirits, Z/X Zillions of enemy X, Build Divide, One Piece TCG and Flesh & Blood, has beaten them all.
How can western artist compete?
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>>98054795
If you hid the mana cost and didn't understand japanese, would you be able to identify what card this is?
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>>98053089
That's because the had weaknesses preventing them from attacking that usually decreases mana costs.
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>>98053852
He's dead
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>>98054814
Based on the text i'd say:
Keyword 1, Do keyword action (1 reminder text 1) and something.
1 something something. Restriction.
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>>98054848
I was more pointing out how the art doesn't fit the card and thus it's not actually good art for it, but you'd be incorrect anyway since japanese cards have fucking weird formatting. There's no keywords or reminder text in the english version.
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>>98054875
The art looks like some kind of counterspell.
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>>98054513
>AmonKEK pantheon DESTROYED by Bolas
>TheREKT pantheon DESTROYED by Phyrexia
>CHADheim pantheon UNDEFEAT and UNCOMPLEATED
The sissy pantheons of warmer planes will boast of strength and then get fucking buttannihilated by the first extraplanar conqueror who looks at them funny. Praise Alrund.
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>>98054970
All the kaldheim gods are automatically gay because their cards are double sided.
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Play

Premodern
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Play Retro-Modern
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PRE
FIRE
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Play Standard on MTGA
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Play Pioneer on Arena.
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DAY NUMBER 11973 OF GREEN NOT GETTING GOOD CREATURE REMOVAL

FUCK YOU MARO
FUCK YOUR COLOR PIE
EVERY
SINGLE
OTHER
COLOR
UNCONDITIONAL REMOVAL
NO "BUT YOU ALREADY HAVE CREATURE ON BATTLEFIELD 2-FOR-1 VS REMOVAL"
NO "LMAO U CAN 2 MANA SORCERY SPEED FIGHT FROM HAND XDDD"

give us the god damn real thing
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>>98055153
Are you trying to be greenschizo?
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play Timeless on Arena
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>>98054530
This sounds sick, do you have a link to where you found the decklist?
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>>98055493
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-sFTGESq24

suboptimal version was there, they improved on it
dina's guidance for prismari -> reenact the crime -> storm
vs
vile entomber for thousand year -> reenact the crime -> storm
No vulnerability to creature removal.

The propulsion is 4x beseech / 4x recording / 2x reenact / 2x fix what's broken, as a good measure of redundancy.
The payload is 2x entomber / 2x thousand year, and you win off your burst lightnings that are removal.

A good question is, if you can cast 3-4x bargained beseech the mirrors, is there any more compact / resilient win condition? Both cases can lose to a Get Lost, though you can also chain 3x recordings before fix whats broken, then you'll have 4x beseechs on the stack, use the first to get duress and get rid of their get lost, next 3 can set up the storm combo

You could have a deterministic combo like entomb omniscience, reenact it, then use last tutor to just get a north wind avatar. But that's actually MORE pieces, and still dies to instant enchantment removal (but north wind -> north wind -> marang is really hard for anyone to stop)
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Fact is that green is the most honest color of all.
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Facts. I think the white schizo is retarded, but I hate black with passion.
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Why is this general so dead?
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>>98055732
Because we don't play EDH.
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>>98055732
there was a split recently
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>>98055732
For some reason there are like four or five general threads up for MTG at any given time.
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>>98055709
Same. I hate that black is overcharged for every little thing. The effects should be way more powerful considering the hefty price tags.
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>TQ
DINA
I
N
A
I want to FUCK the dryad

>>98054821
he lived a long full life of disgustingness
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>>98052365
>tq
Professor Dellian Fel, of course.
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Thread Question
My uncommon wife, Pigment Wrangler.
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>>98056180
>opponent has 5 power on board on 3 creatures
>I cast Dellian Fel
>+2 to gain 3 life and put at 7 loyalty
Opponent MUST know what's coming right
lmao

and he's already back at 4 loyalty able to kill the first creature they play after the sweeper
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>>98056180
Why? He looks like a cunt, and not in the fun charismatic sort of way, he looks like a cunt's idea of a cool guy.
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>>98052365
Alandra.
>Uhhh, she's from Shandalar.
Fuck you she counts.
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The only white format is swedish hardcore rules OS93/94.
Yes, that includes ante and OG rules, zero proxies all cards louped and tested.

>inb4 crying fecaloids
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c-could this build work
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>>98056286
sure
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>>98056307
cut what for 4th hammerskull
they work best in multiples after all
23 forest safe?
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>>98056324
>cut what for 4th hammerskull
hunter's talent, you already have a ton of 2s
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Remember Kaladesh Inventions? That was pretty cool. A whole sheet of artifact reprints with fresh art. They should do that again.
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>>98056436
Universes Beyond: Baseball Chewing Gum Cards
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>>98055732
>Why is this general so dead?
Time to...

PLAY

PREMODERN
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>>98056533
let us review

Standard:
>has storm decks
Pioneer:
>has storm decks
EDH:
>has storm decks
Modern:
>has storm decks
Legacy:
>has storm decks
Premodern:
>has storm decks

Not an improvement
still have to play vs gay storm decks
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>>98056533
A format is gay if you have to go on the Internet and order cards for it.
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why didnt wotc ever make an actual “standards greatest hits” format thats modern borders but your entire deck list has to have actually been simultaneously standard legal
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>>98056436
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Premutt format

No cards from UB
No cards with non-white races in artwork
No cards featuring LGBT
60 cards 4 copies max
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>>98056675
>Channel Fireball
>Affinity
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>>98056695
Channel fireball were never type II legal
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>>98056695
there can still be bans, its just weird that the early excitement about modern/pioneer (lol excitement for pioneer) was the prospect of it being “standards greatest hits” but the rules of the format dont actually protect that idea in any way
instead of standards best decks its standards best individual cards
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>>98056446
You just made me realize the one UB I would get into. They should get Topps on the phone and do Mars Attacks. And make the whole set a long storyline just like the old Mars Attacks cards
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>>98056694
>No cards from UB
>No cards with non-white races in artwork
So literally just base set since Arabian Nights immediately put the kibosh on those?
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>>98056705
> (lol excitement for pioneer)
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pioneer horizons will save pioneer
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I play Pioneer exclusively on Arena.
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>>98056715
We already had an ayy lmao set

It was such an effective alien encounter set that it made us all forget it existed except the one thing its remembered for, a land cycle that taps kona
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>>98056723
>implying arabs aren't white
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ded gaem

ded thread

gg, dotards.
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>>98055732
I blame universes buyond
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>>98056782
>jotc anal raping the format will save the format!
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all of these sets just kinda blend together now
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>>98057738
No blocks does that to you. There is no separation anymore.
Additionally spoiler season for set 2 happens during releas of set 1
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>>98056705
>instead of standards best decks its standards best individual cards
Cards usually don't change their use much when they swap formats.
Snapcaster was a control/tempo card in standard and was played in control/tempo on Modern.
Siege Rhino was a GBx value creature and ended up as a GBx value creature.
Baterskull got cheated out of Stoneforge in Standard and Legacy
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>>98054661
Based batches enjoyer.
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>>98054821
Slap Zombie into his creature type, give him Eirdu's ability (Persist for other creatures) but limited only to Pests, Bats, Insects, Snakes and Spiders and a way to remove -1/-1 from creatures.
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>>98056825
you forgot about the creature that puts exponential +1/+1 counters on the whole board
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>>98054970
>Theros Gods bullied by Phyrexia.
>Amonkhet Gods bullied by Gay Bolas.

So... Kaldheim will get the Eldrazi treatment?
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>>98056546
you forgot Alchemy
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>>98057738
This is the bigger problem right now, yes it is tied to UB but the sheer pace of releases just smothers everything. Seven this year, six next year..."this product is not for you" has turned into nothing being for anyone.

Maro announcing that they are carefully making sure to destroy extra product so artificial scarcity exists while at the same time printing everything into the ground anyway (including actual "limited" stuff like the codex bundle) just makes the entire experience bad from all angles. My LGS went from having absolutely no Strixhaven cards for weeks to suddenly having more than they could possibly ever sell. Singles prices were sky high, now they can't move the ones they finally got at all - not to mention they are still sitting on a mountain of unsold TMNT and Spider-Man that absolutely no one will ever buy already.

The entire model isn't sustainable.
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>>98057906
A bit late for that.
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>>98057906
Eldrazi was Inistrad angels/church.
Koldheim will be genocided by Jace
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>>98057895
Dont need to bother with removing the counters, just let him still add +1/+1s to reset them by at a slightly harder to achieve rate so it isn't perpetual.
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Return to Rabiah
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Legendary used to mean something.
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>>98057906
Maybe they'll get MOTHED, who knows.
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>>98057898
>>98056825
Quantum Riddler and Icetill explorer. But yeah, Ouroboroid is a ridiculous card.
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Standard is the worst format. Just endless nonwhite value slop piles.
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>>98056825
>filename
Until you remember that it got errata'd on release
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>>98058549
Kind of crazy that they suddenly forgot how to template an effect they've been using for years.
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>>98058393
Honestly? Yeah sure!
They could actually give it more identity than just Arabian Nights with some funny twist. They could even address what happened with Taysir's soul because he got kind of sidelined and forgotten in the entire Phyrexian war bs.

>Szadek (I think that was his name?) went retarded betrayal mode and killed Taysir.
>Lord Windgrace in fear of Taysir's heart being used for evul necromancy bs did a ritual of implanting it into his own chest, meaning that Taysir was inside a black furry guy.
>Lord Windgrace died and was buried in Urborg
>Taysir's soul went... ? I assume that it was probably explained in some side material but who knows.
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>>98058701
Bleh, Szadek is the guy from Ravnica. I meant Tevesh Szat,
Fuck these names.
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>>98058511
Standard is a combo man's format
It belongs to the johnnies
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>>98058744
You mean Zhaved Khalesh from Rominad?
or do you mean Dekhav Tevazs from Nadivac?
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>>98058482
icetill explorer aka mr. fabled passage = infinite landfall
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How come there's a "snow" supertype but not like "ocean" or "fire" or something?
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>>98058915
Great point, deserts should have been just been "Basic Arid Land".
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Which plane has the coolest zombies?
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>>98058973
Innistrad skaabs are cool.
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>>98058973
>>98058982
Yeah it's hard to compete with skaabs.
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Why aren't Shadowborn Apostols and Persistent Petitioners Basic Creatures?
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>>98058973
>>98058982
>>98058993
It's fucking Grixis.
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anyone excited for monday? I can barely contain myself, the antecipation of reading "no changes" is crazy
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>>98059292
FREE HIM
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>>98058973
Phyrexia
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>>98059445
I kinda prefer the nims of Mirrodin/New Phyrexia.
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>>98059292
I genuinely have no idea how Badgermole Cub dodged a ban. That design is so fucking braindead it's unfathomable. It's like they refused to ban Kaito and just decided "we need a 2-drop that's this braindead"
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Primeval Titan will be LIBERATED
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>>98059482
They can't ban Badgermole because then the entire game would be LITERALLY Izzet.
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>>98059491
Well whose fault is that, genius? Maybe powercreeping the shit out of red aggro while printing fuckall removal wasn't a good idea? Maybe a 1-drop that makes another body and requires both be answered wasn't good design?
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>>98059502
You'll find no arguments from me, but WotC doesn't do bans of more than 2-3 cards at a time, and they'd need to ban several to stop Izzet from shitting up the place. The truth of the matter is that the format is too fast, they'd have to ban like 12 cards to stop it from being a turn 4 format, and if they did that, they printed so many fucking control tools Jeskai would just sweep everything. It's completely fucked and 3 year standard should have never been a thing, but the damage is done and frankly irreparable.
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>>98052383
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>>98059775
this man is italian btw
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>>98059775
Dude, that's Mengu. He's Italian and he's famous.
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>>98059775
now post a picture that shows his bald spot



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