>>98052732
>What is that one game that you miss the most?

Never not gonna be Halo Fleet Combat. I literally had a chance to get the big starter set for 50 quid from a closing down sale and I regret not doing so to this day.
Although with regards to PP, I fucking miss MonPoc and what happened to it in the end was a fucking travesty.

>>98052732
>tq
Warmachine in the sense that I never got into it.
I know myminifactory released stls of it but I felt bummed out after privateer press imploded.
Are all the warmahordes stls available to buy from the official my mini factory store or do I have to do some piracy hunting for them?
And how are the new p3 paints?

>>98052789
>I know myminifactory released stls of it but I felt bummed out after privateer press imploded.
Privateer Press dying was the best thing that could happen to Warmachine. PPiss that went down and bankrupted was not the same company that created Iron Kingdoms and made Warmachine the great game it was and arguably is again.
>Are all the warmahordes stls available to buy from the official my mini factory store or do I have to do some piracy hunting for them?
No, a small selection of WarmaHordes armies got the STL treatment - only the mini-factions like Infernals, Grymkin etc. Big shits like Khador, Cygnar or Orboros won't get such a treatment because their design process was not digitalized enough back then. You will be able only to pirate whatever you see on the MMF store.
Basically, follow this chart:
Is it one of the pre-Mk4 big armies? No STLs.
Is it one of the pre-Mk4 small armies? There are STLs but they are being released in batches so not everything is up yet
Is it one of the new Mk4 armies? No STLs except for some upgrade and conversion bits because SFG is selling physical printed miniatures instead. 2-player sets miniatures are hard plastic (HIPS) though, the same material as Games Workshop or Wargames Atlantic Plastic plastic - not the SioCast shit.

>>98052866
Unless I’m mixed up in plastic types who is gonna be first to get control of making hard plastic warmahordes models?
Wga or archon?

My attention is mostly focused on the new p3 paints. Their metallics in particular.

>>98052959
SFG is already casting plastic sprues for 2-player sets in-house. I don't think they mentioned outsourcing the process at any point. Actually, I believe they said they want to expand their plastic portfolio eventually. Archon may not be able to take yet another system on them considering their own workload. Running this kind of business in Pooland is an expensive and convoluted affair, I'm quite surprised they keep up with their own shit and Mantic orders at the same time desu.

>>98052983
>mantic orders
So that’s where the better sculpts are.
I am probably one of the few people that like their plastic dwarfs.
But if they don’t archive those as stls when retiring them for better sculpts I’ll look at momminiatures dwarfs instead as stl backups.
I do respect mantic for trying to make their dwarfs significantly different in style to gw dwarfs.

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Firelock's still going strong. It's closing in on the 1.0 release. If you're after a game that adheres to the survivability onion, features CAS and on-map artillery pieces, and has factions ranging from wolfmen armed with machetes, AK47s, and a grudge to elf-like constructs drifting a hovercraft around your flank, then I'd highly recommend checking it out.

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>around 21 eur for 4 resin printed minis
They look great and all, but I could get 4-5 metals for that... Or am I out of touch? Too much of a poorfag?

>>98053244
That's an insane price for models that small.

>>98053244
They were 4 for €16 at the time, which is kind of okay for the "command", that is a bit surprising.

Also they are sculpted by a beautiful woman.

>>98053244
Let someone else print them for you?

>>98053281
>Also they are sculpted by a beautiful woman.
Alright, bought.

>>98053297
I haven't found if these can be bought as STLs. The maker has a patreon but it seems the goblin range is not included and she is making dwarves now.

>>98053244
>Am I so out of touch?
>No, it's the manufacturers who are wrong.
Common /awg/ sentiment.

>>98053333
>No, it's the manufacturers who are wrong.
Unironically correct. Greedflation is true and I'm tired pretending otherwise just because it's /awg/ companies that are predatory with their prices.

>>98053244
You've got it right, a 1kg bottle of resin is $30 dollars now, that prints 50 or more 28mm minis.
There is markup and there is theft, $21 for 4 is theft.
If you're ever going to buy more than $300 dollars of minis in the rest of your life, just buy your own printer instead.

>>98053281
>Also they are sculpted by a beautiful woman
This is relevant because?

>>98053621
simps gonna simp

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>>98051858
>>98052181
Mirliton has a lot of medieval civilian miniatures for this sort of thing. They have some geese in metal.

you can get misc farm animals including gese in these plastic kits as well.
https://store.warlordgames.com/products/farmyard-animals?srsltid=AfmBOooGNDbTPf4HCbTRXpva0UjSz02R_InhxxITRkGjgKr8oqZsFdU9
https://www.victrixlimited.com/products/dark-age-medieval-farm-animals?variant=55731193905534

Reaper has a decent selection of civilian minis as well, although they tend to be a bit more fantastic than historical.
Saga/Gripping Beast is also good for medieval civilians.

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>>98053711
WGA and Archon both have plastic sets for villagers as NPCs.

>>98053147
I would love to but my wargaming friend has zero interest in it, so I can merely watch from the sidelines and hope that everyone has fun.

>>98053147
The itchio site hurt my eyes with its black background and blue letters.
Cool as hell though. I really need to put more effort on my game, but then again I'm only a working guy the closest thing I have to an art style is an excel spreadsheet

>>98053538
How much exactly is not theft then?

>>98054521
A single resin model as in not 3D printed usually is around 3 to 5 us dollar (2 to 4 euros) So worst case scenario 4 resin models would be around 16 euros. Asking more than 4 is on the expensive side, asking more than 5 per model for a resin model is already asking too much.
Asking more than 5 for a fucking 3D printed model is scummy.

>>98054521
Cost +30% +S/H.

>>98054561
>design has no cost
Thief logic

>>98052983
The head of Archon says he got lucky and got a deal on a huge stockpile of plastic before the current global inflation started kicking in.

>>98054563
Why not 29%?

>>98054561
If a single blister of resin minis costs that much, and blisters of metal miniatures (reaper for example) cost similar prices, whats wrong with that price, assuming that one printfag is the only source for that specific printed set of minis

>>98053333
>am I so out of touch?
>I'm out of time (time)
>but I'm out of my head when you're not around
>oh oh oh oh oh

>>98053244
>They look great and all, but I could get 4-5 metals for that..

Or, 20-30 plastics. You should not look at the material so much, especially not if its very specific models like those goblins.
Would you buy them in metal for that price? Apparently. Does it really matter once you have painted them? Does it lower your enjoyment during painting, or afterwards when you see those sculpts in your collection?
There are two sides to this, and i think its a bit like the recast vs original argument, where some people simple "need" the original in their collection, despite there is no visible difference once its painted. Same could be true if your mind tells you that 3d prints "need" to be cheap and the minis are somehow less "valuable" than others..

>>98054706
To cover overhead.

>>98053314
>The maker has a patreon but it seems the goblin range is not included and she is making dwarves now.

Write a message, and ask. And while you're at it, ask if they can provide you a list of licensed sellers, if they sell printing licenses. And then you know where to look.

>>98054828
It's a fucking 3d print. I have a machine that does the same and people sell stls for figures pretty cheap.
So you charge that much for 4 prints the bullshit o meter goes off the charts, kinda like GW charging $84 for a matine character.

>>98054626
A) cost means ALL your costs.
B) most sellers of 3d prints are not the people who designed the sculpts, very few of the digital sculptors sell their own work physically
C)Design is a finite cost, if it takes you 20 hours to design a model and that 20 hours is worth $30/hour then the cost of your physical product better go down after $600 in sales has been met, otherwise it's pure bullshit greed.

>>98054626
Anon I'm talking about regular resin/metal models like the classic blisters. They cost around 4 euros per model at worst. That includes the material, design, package, etc.
Asking 5 or more for a 3D printed model is scummy.

>>98054940
>Asking 5 or more for a 3D printed model is scummy.
Then there are the STL's being sold indivudally for $20 or more!
And the sculptors wonder why Telegram has a thriving piracy community for them.

>>98054807
It's mostly a case of we know how much it should cost to produce since random people right now have the printers on their desk.
It would be like someone making a fotocopy of a book and expecting people to pay double the price of the original.
The issue is that unlike the fotocopy machine the 3D printer actually produce a passble product, but is still just a copy that anyone can make at home with the same quality.

>>98054829
That doesn't answer the question. Why is 30% not theft but 29% is theft

>>98054982
Wow, you're right, go get price gouged.

>>98054951
It is an issue to price the bloody stl.
For example the Spacename infantry stl that cost $30 is perfectly reasonable specially when the stl are made to fit with the rest of the stl sold and have multi builds in mind.
$5 for a single stl, perfectly reasonable.
Asking $20 for a single stl model is being insane.
Another issue is sculptors for some fucking reason trap their shit in bundles. Like dude I do not want over a 100 stl from you I just one of them, as a result people will pirate the shit out of it.
Going back to the printed 3D model, the reason why some anons respond with disgust about the 5 euro per models is because they know there is an stl for the bloody thing and could be reasonably sold for less than 5 euros and they also know the production of said model is not hard since some anons actually have 3D printers.
Now compare it to a resin/metal/plastic model that needs a proper mold. The design need to make is still there, materials still there, packaging? yep still there, but some how is still cheaper and with higher cost of production than a 3D print.

>>98054992
I see. So the leap from 29 to 30 is the tipping point for you. How arbitrary.

>>98054886
>It's a fucking 3d print

So? Its an amazing looking miniature. Its either worth the money to you because you like the sculpt, or its not and you can spend less on something else, that might or might not look as nice.

>>98054964
>but is still just a copy that anyone can make at home with the same quality.

Except they cant, hence we have that discussion.

>we know how much it should cost

We know what metal minis or casted resin or injection molded plastic minis "should" cost too, and yet the prices are all over the board for those as well.

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>>98055131

>>98055147
>Except they cant, hence we have that discussion.
Not with that attitude

>>98055050
>people should sell stls for 5 euros, which I then use to print hundred duplicates

>>98054951
>>98055050
>Then there are the STL's being sold indivudally for $20 or more!

In my opinion, it comes down to how complex something is. If we take the Space Nam as example (and i've printed some, so i know that its true), all of the stuff is compatible with each other. Heads arms, torsos etc. Ensuring compatibility among 5+ releases has to be worth something. Scale kept the same, etc.
The sets being multipart and not just sloppy single pose sculpts has to be worth something too in my opinion, and also the fact that they are presupported in a way that is better than just pressing "autosupport".
I can see why the main set costs $30, and the smaller "addon" sets cost less than that, but still more than $5. That is justified due to the overall value of that range.

Here are some examples of rather pricy STL files, which i think are worth it:
https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-sector-alix-merchant-ship-pirate-combat-ship-462744

https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-sector-al-ix-floating-market-695172

And this is what i would never even think about buying, regardless of the miniatures themselves looking good:

https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-2x-morlok-trolls-dark-city-of-morlok-ring-of-legends-719839

https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-treewalker-throwing-rock-free-forest-ring-of-legends-774943

https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-6x-morlok-orcs-two-handed-weapon-dark-city-of-morlok-ring-of-legends-719862

These last 6 orcs in particular are terrible, because they are a "standard unit", and yet monopose. And yes, you could digitally kitbash, or simply mirror and print.. still infinitely less value than the mentioned SpaceNam.

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Talking 3D prints and stuff. I have a sneaking suspicion this guy is making AI generated art, and then AI generating 3D files of it

Because he "commissioned" these but now is posting about how he sculpted later stuff and is posting loads

>>98055151
If someone has no printer for whatever reason, and/or the STL is not for sale, the miniature becomes a regular miniature to that person, like any other on the market.

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>>98055213
As you can see they're not averse to using AI

>>98055213
I think it would be fucking amazing when random people can start to just "make" miniatures like this with a few prompts and very little effort.

>>98052780
Isn't MonPoc still supported?

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>>98054828
>You should not look at the material so much, especially not if its very specific models like those goblins.
ok, but afaik metal is much more expensive than resin printing
so where is that cost coming from? them trying to match metal prices? well, I'll just very likely skip and buy metal goblins that are actually cheaper and look just as good
I don't fault them or anything, it's just how much I'm willing to spend on something like this
Red Bard Games is similar. They have some great unique minis, but priced higher than metals despite being supposedly cheaper to produce 3D prints.

>>98054832
Didn't ask but she doesn't seem to have anyone who bought printing license. Her business is rather new.

>>98055205
Edge case, most of us printing print once, many sculptors do things smart and sell a production license separately at a high price and personal use license at a lower price.

>>98055208
I saw that Bishok dude's stuff before. Looks pretty neat.
I like how good ~15mm scale minis are getting with printers

>>98055278
I like his stuff too. Its fairly unique and most of those airships have options for different weapons, some different hull parts etc.
This is taking great advantage of the digital nature of sculpting and then printing the stuff.
I would not mind to spend 20+ on such a set, because i know i can make at least 2 or 3 unique variants out of it.
If i look at that Ent in comparison, thats a lot less value, even to i actually like the sculpt. I just would never print more than one, and "size" does not matter either, because just because it prints as a big monster, i could also upscale one of the 15mm minis to 300%.. or print the Ent in 35% size or something.

>>98055050
>Another issue is sculptors for some fucking reason trap their shit in bundles.
This is a big killer for me.
Zero interest in the majority of the Grymkin, can't get the Rattler without a $100 dollar bundle.
So I'm going to pirate it and be less inclined to patronize new warmahores stuff.

>>98055316
This. All of those should be considered bad business practices:
>Fomo monthly releases
>bundles only
>"campaigns" (both on MMF or Kickstarter) for STL files.. just sell the stuff regularly.

>>98055316
I still can't get over how fucking shitty the design they chose for the Grymkin battle engine. A spooky house? Garbage.

>>98055337
The purple demon slut from last thread is one I wanted to buy.
Seller doesn't have it in their catalogue anymore, just a bunch of slightly less NSFW (still tits but more clothes, none floating in chains) sculpts with similar heads.
So I had to pirate it.

>>98054964
>Fotocopy
Esl latam poorfag detected.
All opinions have been invalidated.

>Last thread
MUH BAD WRITING
>This thread
MUH EVIL 3D PROONTING PRICES

It just has to be one guy.

>>98055344
That's an aesthetics and personal preference concern and sure you do you. The part that sucks is the removal of consumer choice based on those preferences stacked with the bad business practices outlined by >>98055337
and in general the sordid history of PP. Makes the whole thing fucked enough they lose me when I would have paid for individual stls, but realistically the loss of whatever I would have paid for a few stls is probably less than their gains from leveraging paypigs.

>>98055213
>>98055225
>Lots of things are nearly symmetric, but not entirely.
Big AI tell, unless the sculptor was intentionally doing this to give it a hand sculpted feel.
>No recycled elements across models or in the same model.
Sculptors usually recycle elements such as shoes, skulls, hands and horns to shave down work times, this is not the case here. The skulls on the first guy are all slightly different in shape despite being nearly the same size. Same with the hands, you wouldn't want to sculpt at least three different hands holding a weapon/banner in the exact same position unless you were getting paid by the minute, which I doubt is the case.
>Discrepancies in size/proportions
Again, this could be the sculptor's intention, but I still find it strange how models that share a very similar pose seem to be so differently proportioned.

90% sure this is AI from me. I'd need to see an stl to confirm it, the geometry seldom lies, at least with the current models.

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>>98054394
There's a fully implemented Tabletop Simulator module and a very active matchmaking discord.

>>98053147
I love the style of this game.

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>>98055503
Will investigate, many thanks anon

>>98055256
Nta, but having talked with a couple of casters over the years, metal minis tend to have a lower profit margin, even when priced higher. Metal also seems to sell better, likely due to nostalgia, weight and general perceived luxury. Things tend to equalise somewhat as you scale up production, but resin tends to win because it's a bit more forgiving and doesn't require as much specialised personnel and equipment.
Regardless of material, most of what you're paying for is the actual sculpt, if only materials were taken into account, most minis would be a lot cheaper, but this is a boutique, niche market within an already very niche hobby, so you're gonna pay more just to keep it existing.
Companies are in no way obligated to save you money or offering their product at cost. So, if I like what they're selling and can afford it, I'll happily pay for it.

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>>98055503
Kino

>>98055531
>so you're gonna pay more just to keep it existing.
Until at home manufacture and a widely shared set of files combine to make the business aspect of things redundant and pointless.
We're almost there, the business model can adapt or it can die.

>>98055554
>waah waaah I want my toys for free, fuck the people that make them
Sorry anon, but I am not goycattle so I cannot sympathise with your way of thinking. I want to have a hobby scene full of talented artists and niche sculpts for every taste, so if paying an extra 30% helps to keep them afloat, I'll gladly do so.

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It has been ages since I worked with multipart metal minis and now I remember why. Jesus, what a hassle. Working mostly with single-piece metal minis and plastic multipart kit made me forget what a nightmare it is to fix all those bent bits, fuck with moldlines in the worst places possible, not to mention cleaning all those tiny bits to make it 2% more likely super glue will actually glue them together.

>>98055624
It's a pain in the ass, but nothing beats the feeling of knowing that you can take a few teeth off of your opponent with that hefty metal dragon if need be.
I must confess that I struggle a lot more with paint chipping on metal than the actual assembly.

>>98054923
You gotta separate you fixed act variable costs bb
>>98055624
I'm in my thirties and I've been gaming for two decades.
I have never pinned a model, and I never will.

>>98055668
Same. Assembly never bothered me, but even with primer and a layer or gloss varnish covered by matte varnish, there's always an edge or corner that chips a little. At least it's not usually recurring, I've never had a touch up chip again.

>>98055668
I honestly regret not spending all this time on unboxing and setting up my resin printer instead. After moving to a new place there was always something more important to be done but now it feels like I'm avoiding inevitable. I want to build and paint a small Skorne army to play MkIV but I would print, assemble and paint a starting command for Ferrow in less time for sure.

>>98055624
I play Mutant Chronicles. I have a LOT of metal miniatures. I despise assembling them, it's worse than having ball cancer.

>>98055208
>The sets being multipart and not just sloppy single pose sculpts has to be worth something too in my opinion
Thats true too.
In any case something like this >>98053244 is being scummy. Make them in metal or proper resin at that point.
Following your same examples I totally see your point. Shit might be looking cool as balls, but is still just a single mono pose model and is not like you can't scale it up or down.
When sculptors start asking for prices similar to a proper model as in made out of plastic/metal/resin and is just an stl file the sculptor is just asking for people to pirate it.
The 6x morlok orcs file cost as much as a can of resin for a 3D printer for the regular guys with a 3D printer this particular stl is just retarded.
Think anons are having issues with the situation because unlike the past I could at best recast something and still required the original model to copy it and make a single mold out of it
Meanwhile today I can get the same model multiple times from multiple printers from a single file that a friend send me over WhatsApp and the result can be just as good or better than the guy selling me the 3D printed copy. It is a totally different situation from the past.

>>98053147
>If you're after a game that adheres to the survivability onion, features CAS and on-map artillery pieces, and has factions ranging from wolfmen armed with machetes, AK47s, and a grudge to elf-like constructs drifting a hovercraft around your flank, then I'd highly recommend checking it out.
Buy an ad ffs.

>>98055668
Having 6 Penitent Engines without any pinning and just super glue survived all this years. The complains against metal model assembly is just a skill issue.

>>98055611
Those things already exist and are now freely distributed within the community

>>98055805
Neck yourself anon

>>98055827
>but I did print the models I want.

>>98053244
You're not paying for the figures at this point, but for the brand.

Anyone know what will happen to Legacy Blackfleet[sic] now that the Black Fleet is coming to Warmachine?

>>98052672
Thank you for explaining, I had no idea what Alpha Strike was. Tbh I find Battletech aesthetics to be kinda lame and the ruleset isn't that important. Just kinda gravitating towards Steel Rift and Heavy Gear Blitz at the moment.

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Finished the player summon Imp and Minor Demon for Frostgrave.

>>98056800
Sick work anon, great minions.
I wish Joseph McCullough would give me Necromancy rules that actually had a reason to make a variety of minis for summons/minions.

>>98055611
>I want my toys for free, fuck the people that make them
This is a correct opinion given that most in this industry turn out to be assholes or most of the times the company is doing asshole things.
But hey at least you’re doing your part to keep their lights on. Thanks!

>>98053346
Not to mention that in the alternative miniature space a lot of bad decisions get waved away because they aren’t gw by that alone.
This basically becomes consent for the mini companies to do more stupid things or avoid preventing mistakes and never fix themselves up.

Some Fane of Nyrro stuff has been put up for pre-order during Lock and Load this weekend, as well as the rules for them in the app. Its... interesting. The warlock is a beater that wants to be up in it, and non-beast models want to be up their with her. Both the knights and the rider have a rule that gives them +3 ARM when within 10" of a friendly leader model.

The way they balanced all flying warbeasts is interesting. Obviously they are fast and squishy, but they are on the lower POW side, cheap, and uncontrollable. The heavy has a Fury of 5 and a Threashold of 4. Fucking nuts. And there's a whole bunch of Frenzy rules. The light comes built in with a rule that allows it to activate normally if it frenzies in the Control Phase, and can get an animus that let's you poke beasts to get a free frenzy in your turn, though it doesn't help clear Fury, just a free charge and boosted attack.

>>98055369
Have a link to the pirated one?

>>98057383
Oh, and the army gimmick is that when the warlock kills enemies, they get hunger points. They can also be fed them by their warbeasts. Then, they have a list of abilities they and other Eldritch can spend them on. Hysene let's you spend one point to Shake It Off, 2 points to gain Cleave, and 7 points to Decapitation on their next attack.

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>>98057383
>>98057417
And Menoth in October.

>>98057268
I just painted a bunch of skellymans with heraldry that fits to my wizard for my warband.

>>98056800
Constructs can be bone or flesh golems

>>98057856
meant for >>98057268

>>98055624
Sorry you can't deal with Soul. Or bought some shitty metals.

>>98057613
I'm just bitching that every other summoner archetype got a big supplement expansion fleshing out their rules while thaw of the lich lord just gives a few mediocre items you'd have to fight tooth and nail to use outside the campaign anyways.

>>98057856
Yeh but then I'm just playing enchanter at that point, give me my damn Necro book McCullough and stop making skeletons suck.

>>98058971
Houserule, necromancer can raise a warband of zombies but forgo hiring any soldiers

Any of you played Greathelm ? I'm going to do a quickstart game, but I wouldn't mind some opinions, especially with the full rules

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Got this Crash Bandicoot toy box

Do you think if I submerged them on a sandy base it would work for a terrain piece? Too big?

>>98059130
I think this is the newest stuff, sorry though I haven't got around to trying it myself.
https://greathelm.indietabletop.club/redeem/e22143cf-c0ca-461b-b75d-b09266ff2b84

>>98058997
That just sounds awful, significantly worse than just using undead models which is what I already do. My main issues with how Necromancy is implemented in frostgrave that I would want fixed are
>the fact there's no rules or precedent for summoning any other kind of undead besides zombies or skeletons
>On top of that skeletons and armored skeletons just flat out suck and paying for armored skeletons is a waste of gold
>The few tools that almost start to compare to the books demonology and enchanting get are actually nice and easy to houserule(Revenant and lichdom) but as spells they're locked to the thaw of the lich lord treasure tables which you would have to argue with your opponent to be able to roll on or otherwise make available in your campaign.
>Revenant is nice but lichdom isn't actually that great when you think about it.

I have considered trying my own homebrew either based on the enchanting rules for golems or just making casting values/gold costs for different undead like ghouls or wraiths to be raised but even then it gets annoying because that starts to clash with the current shitty design since McCullough's already put out so many mediocre band aids that conditionally let you have a ghoul or two from certain magic items or as part of the new crit rules.

>>98059134
Could do for large scale shipping, but it looks like the wood style is fairly prominent. A wrecked sailing ship and washed up crates would be a neat terrain set now that I think about it.

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Should I make some sci-fi terrain from the old vacuum cleaner filter? Just wash and dry it first, then prime it metal.

>>98059134
>>98059244
Do your thing homie, let's see what you can come up with

>>98059218
Too easy to overpower necromancy, demons are higher reward but there is the risk of summoning a hostile major demon right beside you.

>>98059271
What do you think would be overpowered about expanding necromancy rules?

IMO just having access to more undead statblocks or making Revenant a core spell really wouldn't be that bad at all in the grand scheme of things, especially when golems are right there in terms of being just better than the two things I described.

>>98059244
Depend what plastic it is. If it's PP or PET, I think it's more hassle than it is worth most of the time.

>>98059283
>opponent
Ah, we play different kinds of Frostgrave.

>>98059363
I suppose I haven't done much co-op only or solo play(I do enjoy co-op scenarios mixed into a campaign) but I'm still not sure how co-op or solo changes much of the balance concerns, and its still kind of annoying debating how I should add in lich/revenant or any other thaw items I might want into the treasure pool.

>>98059403
That's what I mean, I don't worry about someone objecting to supplemental material, the core on it's own is lacking depth.
Ghost Archipelago stuff is even okay, just not the whole inheritor player character thing, the bestiary in particular is a no-brainer addition.

>>98059403
If you have trouble slotting in Thaw material then a new necromancy book will be more troublesome, revenant basically solves the issue and that book is old, got to be playing with a serious That Guy for it to be an issue.

>>98059218
>ghouls
Interesting note, the amulet of the ghoul king says you can control only one ghoul or zombie, while the book of bones (on the same rules page) says one zombie or skeleton, so with both equipped you can summon a ghoul and a skeleton.

>>98059412
I'm basically bitching about the core lacking depth and the one supplement we got is more of a campaign with some items rather than an expansion for it. Funnily enough speaking of GA I did actually write a Necromancer supplement for that when one of my groups wanted to try it, it was a first draft but it turned out well enough and wasn't super out of line of GA's balance IMO

>>98059417
>If you have trouble slotting in Thaw material then a new necromancy book will be more troublesome
no it wouldn't, a separate subsystem is significantly easier to sort out than having to ask to roll on special treasure tables for a campaign we aren't playing or otherwise ask to be able to buy those spells/items deterministically or with the black market. I don't imagine anyone would have issues using the demon or enchanter supplements unless supplements altogether were discouraged or those were specifically banned. You are right that Revenant almost solves the issue but that's part of why I bitch its locked to a treasure table and not core or part of an easier to access expansion, plus I still just wish I could summon more than zombies and shitty skeletons. Let me pay for ghoul soldiers dammit.

>>98059452
Yeh there's some funny things you can do, its just painful that they're all locked to specific items you cant guarantee.

>>98059500
The scenarios are a campaign, the rules, treasure and bestiary are an expansion. Every expansion contains scenarios to showcase new rules IIRC.

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Anybody played The Silver Bayonet Egypt?

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Made my ghost archipelago crew out of Nostalgia
It looks like Frostgrave for people who think wizards are fags. How does it compare?

>>98059591
Yes every expansion contains a scenario, but the one difference is the treasure is typically unique to those scenarios, both by being on its own treasure table for the campaign and usually also lorewise being specific to the events of the campaign. For example obviously the expanded demon summing rules aren't tied to the scenarios from that book but the new treasure tables and the items in them are. It's not super hard to justify finding things in other campaigns lorewise but it does raise an annoying mechanical question of "how should these items show up" especially if you are playing a scenario with its own treasure table because itl be awkward to be rolling on another table and missing out on the unique drops for the game you're actually playing. That isn't even getting into the fact its still unsatisfying to rely on random treasure to have features I think should probably just be core.

>>98059625
It's very similar to frostgave, has a generally lower damage ceiling which is a good thing IMO and some of its balance changes were ported into frostgrave 2e anyways. My only complaint about it is its not directly compatible with frostgrave because wizards and heritors have different treasure needs but its definately worth playing on its own and has some very interesting content in its expansion books.
I would also recommend checking out stargrave, somehow despite mainly focusing on ranged fighting which is a big concern in frostgrave it ends up feeling more balanced overall and it actually has room for playing more than one archetype of hero(wizard/techdude/soldier etc)

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>>98059625
It's a lot harsher. Money is harder to come by and a lot more asked of you, but to counter this in the expansions you can get patronage from a bronze age city and their markets as well as tribal allies.
The crits are also way funnier since they deal double damage regardless of whom rolled it. A house rule that some recommend is ignore the double damage on your heritor and warden because it sucks having your guy get murdered by a fucking monkey or turtle or equally dumb shit.
Personally I find it funny, and yes my heritor ate shit and died the first game. It was great.
You also have dinosaurs, so to me it'll always be the best -grave.

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>>98059648
Oh right, the fucking impossible way to actually "win" Ghost Archipelago.
>get all 20 map pieces
>to roll on which map piece you got, it's a rare drop
I think I played 10 solo games and got 3. And one was a repeat.
My favorite part is you don't re-roll map pieces, you are stuck with useless doubles.

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>>98059651
>>98059668
I'm very excited. As I was painting up my high elves I was full of nostalgia.
I know backstory doesnt really matter in this game but I figure my heritor is looking for the crystal pools because he had a dream about some manic (Great) pixie girl poping out of one.
That and he likes the idea of killing One Piece fans.

Also no king kong themed campagin is a crime. I might write one

>>98059625
inheritors are capeshit, but wizards are wizard.

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>>98059244
You can order interlocking aquarium filter frames for peanuts, and use them to make some good terrain without the risk of shit growing in the old filter bits.

Which AW has the highest quality miniatures? Even Infinity is kinda doodoo.

>>98060496
What sort of qualities are you looking for?
The Starcraft game has high detail stuff being made by Archon, which is one form of high quality.
Knightmare is another 'high quality' miniature production but they're very different in terms of style and audience.
If you want to argue about taste there's always Warmahordes. That'll get some (you)s which ever way you flip it.

>>98059625
Real armor heavy for GA...

>>98060752
I was just working with my models
None of the standard mooks are actually wearing armor and my heritor has aqualung so I *think* he'll be ok.
My crew in that pic is
>Top row: "Cara Loft" Tomb Raider, "Lord Lymacrion" Heritor, "Lady Sylthwe" Vine Warden, "Slippy Pete" Guide
>Bottom Row "Silly Rick and Unsilly Rick" Archers (center)
Then the rest are crewmen, 2 with shield and handweapons, 2 with great weapons named Big Vinny, Old Vinny, Zesty Vinny and Smart Vinny

I'm not good at naming things

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What are you anons working on?

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>>98061008
Aravises.

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>>98061008
I'm working on some skaven I originally printed for Five Leauges from the boarderlands, but may end up giving to a friend for a ghost archipelago crew in our upcoming league or just any game that needs giant rats.
They are almost like orcs or undead where there is *always* a game you can use them for

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>>98061008
W!R board

>>98061182
looks baller.
Stl source?

>>98061182
Fancy.

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>>98061210
For which bit?
I think the computers are on thingiverse. The tiles are magnetic kids toys. Most of the tile decorations are from Tehnologbor granny grating.

>>98061182
please post a hunting report when you are done playing

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>>98061008
Quar, apart from these there is only like 30-35 left

>>98061182
sick, I want to make a board like that too and try the game at some point

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6Om9De-jt4
Will there be plastic miniatures for Warriors of Athena? If so when ?