How would you make a one-gender race who has to reproduce by raping another race sympathetic?
>>98053929I know they're a meme but the Warpstone magazine actually did a pretty good job with fimir.
>>98053929Make them repentant.
>>98053929Lose the rape, then it'll be perfectly fine. Gerudo in Hyrule are a good example.If you must have the rape, then maybe have the rape be vengeance for a possible genocide made against their oppressors. Even then, it's hard to sympathize.
>>98053929an unsympathetic female rape species is a much more interesting challenge.Hard mode: you can't make them ugly or sadistic
>>98053929How do you justify carnivores who take other lives to eat?No, I'm neither vegan nor vegetarian; I proudly eat meat. The world is cruel, and I acknowledge this as an aspect of nature.
>>98053962>an unsympathetic female rape species is a much more interesting challengeIs it?They already exist in our world.
>>98053962>Monstergirls can only birth monstergirls and will eventually lead to societal collapse because they outcompete human women. This is already the (completely ignored) plot of monster girl games so I don't count it>Genuinely loving and outcompete human woman as above, but God damns you for interracial degeneracy...Wait, that's MGQ again.Fairy onaholes are basically this world's version of rats. They spread STDs and steal food, you're not supposed to breed them but everyone does anyways
This must be the single most pathetically sexually frustrated boards on this entire site
>>98053929Harpies would be the way to go.
>>98053929go ask >>>/d/
>>98053962Colonel Braxys did mostly nothing wrong.
>>98054057The first one would resolve in a cuckqueen society, men need to fuck 4-5 women (which would be second class citizens) to pregnancy each year just to keep up. I believe this is the plot of a handmaidens tale?
>>98053929Wasn't this how the snake women worked in Monster Musume.
>>98053929Making the rapist monogender race me and the incubator victim you, OPShall we get to breeding?
>>98053929that could just be a novel anon.
>>98053929You could just have it not be rape.
Make them white men and at least 4chan gooners will be happy.
>>98053929Why does she have a Penis? Is THIS the future liberals want?
>>98053944Andromeda was such a 90s crackhead fevredream
>>98054429>https://st44244.ispot.cc/nextcloud/index.php/s/XDdXPGkLbHQ6tx5?dir=/&editing=false&openfile=trueLook for the Hellhound702b picture. It's her in the nude, no futa-dick.
>>98053929I say make them into Slut Merchants. They have an extensive surrogate industry, possibly even subsidized to boost population. And of course mercenaries, what with rape being a pretty common pastime in war. Might also depend whether they pitch or catch.
>>98054511Ah, Shitty Western Art strikes again.
>>98053962i don't find monster girls from mge and similar worlds to be sympathetic at all. sure they're hot and all but killing them is always 100% the right choice
>>98053929in my setting, humans are the only monogender race. they're all female and reproduce by raping the poor men of the orc, goblin, minotaur, devil, lizardman and warg races
>>98053935Some of the lore in Fimir issue was written by a woman (Lea Crowe) by the way.
I try to keep my Chinese cartoons and games separate.
>>98053929They're already sympathetic for raping.
>>98053962Not really, women always get a pass compared to male monsters.
>>98053959Whats the point then?
>>98054836Anon, this is basic mythology. Bigfoots kidnap human women to breed with, rarely the women Bigfoot take human men but it happens, also the finfolk of the Orkneys both genders steal humans to marry because if a finwife marries a finman she loses her powers and becomes an ugly beaten slave. If you go into any country's folklore you'll find several examples although the most notable ones are all male races taking human women.
>>98053929The simplest tragedy of all: an all-male species that COULD be a pure and enlightened society of homobros, if not for the biological necessity of reproduction forcing them to interact with w*men.
>>98054933Disgusting legs holy shit
I wouldn't They exist for the players to slaughter without feeling bad and feel like they're helping, like pest control
>>98054004 was not a rhetorical question. It would be nice if OP could give a straight answer.
>>98053929People sympathize for dolphins all the time, and they don't even reproduce with what they rape.
>>98053929Traditional games?
>>98055499Warhammer Fantasy/Roleplay, Runequest, Maidens of the last/first age, and Dragon Age ttrpg off of the top my head.
Oh there's a goblin slayer trrpg too, I forgot.
>>98053929You can't.>>98053959>>98054085They're not.
>>98055548Also the implied setting of D6 Fantasy. The evil races can reproduce only by raping humanoid women of other races. But it is not the only way, since they can also be created through dark rituals from other humanoids. It also solves the question of why aren't they ever genocided, because even if some heroes kill them all some evil wizard can just start over by creating himself a starter army of orc minions that then multiply through plundered women.
>>98055599More like you don't need to. The elves need men, so they subjugate human cities and they give men in tribute, or face the elves in battle and their soldiers are slain and those that flee and are captured became elf-mates anyways.
>>98053929You can make something close to Shadows House plot for example. There is no sex at all, but still not a nice way of reproduction.Or, instead you can make it:1. Statutory rape, sacrifice. Like, victims can be however willing, but they required to be young virgins. Kinda classic if you think. If victims dying in the process it makes it even more tragic. Unicorns bawling their eyes out as they lethally skewer a maiden (no, not with a horn). 2. Soft coercion, prostitution. If country is occupied for a long time, people can learn to cope and accept some unwilling sex from time to time, if it's beneficial for their survival and life quality. Alcoholics irl often sell their daughter for a less.3. Manipulation, gaslighting. Victims can be inside a system where they accept regular sex with another species as a complete mundane thing. They can be even aggressive towards those who try to open their eyes and point at their lack of choice.
>>98053929They get really aggressive once a year due to hormones, like geese, but feel really bad about it later. Rest of the time they're model citizens.
>>98053962Simple. Arachnid monster girls. They eat their mates right after sex. It's not sadistic or cruel its just their nature.
>>98053929If I made a race that only had one gender I wouldn't give them monster girl quest logic of only being able to reproduce through fucking/raping another species. I would just use one of the many methods of asexual reproduction.If you want your race of rapist to be "sympathetic" then your best chance is to make them extraordinarily hot and lean fully into the porn logic. Though I would wonder who you would be playing interactive porn with for this to even be a game. If you are already that close then just ask your players what they think would be hot rather than inflicting your horniness on /tg/.Or ask the thread centered around lewd rpg gaming who probably have more experience with this kind of thing.
>>98057489>I would be boring, shitty, and avoid the question
>>98054073>>>/a/>>>/b/>>>/d/>>>/e/etc...
>>98054085Harpies aren't sympathetic in most incarnations.
>>98057490If you read the 3rd paragraph I did answer the question you whore.I said make them hot and use porn logic if you are dead set on having a rape race.
>>98054895Is the rape the most important part of it to you?
>>98057506>erm akshuallyYeah, after your soapbox.
>>98053929is the lack of consent fundamental to their reproductive cycle? like do they extract some sort of psychic or metaphysical essence from the act of rape that facilitates their breeding? or do they just do it for fun? knowing humans it's hard to imagine they would have a difficult time finding people who are dtf regardless of what they look like so this seems like a nonissue
>>98053929They have some form of mind reading and future prediction capability. Also, their way of performing intercourse is incredibly pleasing and soothing. They choose targets that don't want it right now, but will enjoy it so much, that in retrospect will be thankful for the experience. Alternatively, they rape targets with rape fantasies.>inb4 if they have a rape fantasy it isn't rape.
>>98054073Yup! Some of the guys in here seriously need to get laid, voluntarily
>>98053929I was gonna just reply "I wouldn't" then remembered I already had for an old sci-fi campaign:>The Pod Peoplea Plant based invasion of the bodysnachers type creatureReproduces via a fist sized pod that lies in wait and fires out a tendril that paralyses a victim and over the next several hours drains some of their life force to grow an almost perfect duplicate of the victim.The only detectable variance is that the clone has naturally green hair, but that is easily hidden or dyed.Once grown the clone has all the memories of the victim and can perfectly mimic their voice and mannerisms, while being fully aware of their nature and possessing their own personality.The morally complex part is that it is not necessarily a hostile creature, but like a horse being born knowing how to walk, it is created with an instinct to kill the helpless victim and insist that they are the original creature.These survival instincts can be overcome if the original victim somehow lives long enough for the newborn to 'digest' its new memories and become self aware. (Most often when interrupted, as few can stomach killing a podling with a loved ones face, and just yanking out the embedded tendril is not easy, being both both painful and dangerous for the victim.)Furthermore, the pod doesn't just target "people", it will clone anything the size of a bird and up, and while a human podling may show responsible restraint, a cat podling will happily leave a little green landmine any old place.So yeah, lots of lovely social issues to play around with, as any intelligent podling would either have killed someone, may be stealing their identity, or have a doppelganger walking around. Plus the authorities will have views; at best wanting to track them back to source to prevent animal based outbreakes; and at worse having kill on sight orders or "enclosures" to keep them in.
>>98055548You dont get it. How did this topic impact your latest session in these games?
>>98057528You are too retarded to play table top games.
>>98053929>How would you make a one-gender race who has to reproduce by raping another race sympathetic?Huh.I just thought of it. It's pretty easy actually. But I'm not posting it until you clearly and explicitly tell me why you need this in your traditional game setting.Convincing me that you actually play games would help.OP reminds me of the anon who kept insisting that men were hurt and raped in media for comedic effect but women never were. After the second list of examples I provided that proved him wrong, I realized that he was fishing for shit to twistedly fap to.
>>98053929Make them hot cause you can't rape the willing. Or go full goblin mode and have them just grab anyone that can make babies and run the train on them.
>>98053929Make them female, cute and not anything at all like 3DPD eazy peazy
>>98057690Every time someone plays Fimir in Warhammer that's their damn driving purpose dude.Darkspawn exist to fight because of this as well.
My sci-fi setting has a race of mantis people, the males are much smaller than the females(males are slightly smaller than humans while females are the size of a moose) and, as real life mantids do, the female eats the male. HOWEVER, the males are far more intelligent than the females, that are basically rabid animals, and as their society developed they went from fucking the females then getting killed and eaten to grouping up, kidnapping females and placing them in restraints to produce children without the risk of immediate post coitus cannibalism. And as their culture and technology expanded so did this procedure, and now their entire species effectively relies on the mass-rape of giant carnivorous animals.They're actually a rather friendly species to everyone else, and while humans might find it a bit disturbing, it's generally been accepted by the galactic community that it's necessary for their survival.
>>98053929The absurd implication an all female race would need to rape and wouldn't have as many desperate volunteers as they needed in the worst case, and willing prostitutes as well. Yeah it's your fetish, but it's a stupid fetish because you wanting it be raped makes it not rape.
>>98057578forget the mind reading and future prediction nonsense, just make an entire race of Rances.
>>98057690My character won the I Survived the Broo Murder Rape Orgy shirt
>>98053929Make another race that can only reproduce by being raped
>>98058157>It may seem untoward but the alternative is- Anon you're standing too clOH SHIT!
>>98058157This is the locust from Gears of War. The berserkers are their females so they have to be restrained since they're huge roid raging psychotics that require orbital space lasers to deal with.A normal drone or 10 doesn't stand a chance.
>>98059628Huh, neat, I haven't played Gears of War but I probably subconsciously picked that up without realizing
>>98059407I can't tell if this implies Anon got immediately killed and eaten or if Anon started taking his turn with the insect pussy
>>98053929You don't.
>>98057935>But I'm not posting it until you clearly and explicitly tell me why you need this in your traditional game setting.Monstergirl reverse rape is my fetish.
>>98054977Only workable and rational post in this thread. Literally a pearl cast before swine.
>>98053929I'm reminded of the Noble Orcs from Yondome, they're a male-only race that can only reproduce by breeding with females of other species, but their demon lord patron bestowed "flesh wives" on them so they can reproduce without having to rape their neighbors.That said, Noble Orcs are pretty intelligent too and their neighbors are races like Arachnes, Scyllas and Empusas (all of which are female only and can only reproduce with males of other species) and some of them have amicable relationships with Noble Orcs. In fact the princess of the Arachnes is in a loving relationship with the crown prince of the Noble Orcs.
>>98058157>and as their society developed they went from fucking the females then getting killedI kinda like the implications of this stage of their development. Imagine how a society like that would progress, generations upon generations of expendable men making small contributions for the children they'll never meet. Since fathers never meet their children, they'd have no way of teaching their sons how to speak or read.They could form little secret societies of virgin males, with the oldest passing down their knowledge to the youngest, and then leaving to semi-willingly mate with a female and introduce more potential male members. They'd also probably have to start over from scratch hundreds or thousands of times, since all their knowledge would be destroyed every time a pack of females discovers their little conclave
>>98059060A small amount of broo are female. I, however, would make them futa goat women too. That's how you make a sympathetic monogender rape race.
>>98060618Can it be counted as reverse rape if still willing?
>>98053959This. It's like retards who make other ontologically evil races. They're only good to die for XP if a core tenet of their society or culture is murder, rape, or both.Though as >>98054085 points out harpies in my system are all female, and can either reproduce through parthenogenesis or require a non-harpy male to reproduce normally.
>>98057674Unless your players are honorable goonmasters it's unlikely they will consider this rape. "Magical realm" is frequently memed, but to recognize a fetish you have to know that the fetish exists and be familiar enough with it to differentiate between a version of the fetish with the sexual elements hidden, and the base concept that is fetishized (carnivorous plant doppelgangers). Ironically, an actual hentai game (Black Souls 2) has a certain character who is a bodysnatcher of a previously met character from the previous game, who is portrayed sympathetically but the bodysnatching itself isn't fetishized.
>>98053929There’s the French RPG about the 4 muses that represent the seasonsThe autumn one got seduced by the devil or something and her offspring is therefore evilThere’s a lizard / dragon race that can only reproduce through rape or through taking on human form and seducing women that then die in childbirth The setting book on them , while still casting them as the equivalent of orcs, makes them surprisingly sympathetic and shows them clearly not beeing happy about the way they are forced to reproduce
I struggle to understand how a biology works on lack of consent. Does... consent make them impossible to mate others?