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>>98059878They should do an MTO for millionaires for those as well
>>98059878>TQWhen it's basically only a colorscheme (no, having fluff doesn't matter) and has no model line for itself.
>>98059878Tq Glup shittos aren’t a bad thing. Rather they are a good thing because it means the people behind reminding them they exist or existed actually did research about the setting they are making media for.So glup shittos should be seen as a good thing when they get mentioned even if for a split second.It is the way fans react when less obscure things are given attention or an Easter egg that is bad.
Almost done with it.
>>98059878>$50 in you are the path
>>98059896There's just no way I can justify this.If I was that big of a Vostroya fan I'd have bought up all the ebay offerings instead by now.
>>98059896Do you think that recasters are part of their target customers when they put out prices like those?
>>98059896Someone drop a gofile with the scans
>>98059896haha
>>98059896>50 dollarsNice try, it's only 30 in human countries a*ssie
>>98059910It's 29 eurobucks. No way is it 30 dollaroos
>>98059905Metal 3d printing needs to be there for those scans to truly be viable.I don’t think the vostroyans had a finecast treatment.So autists will screech recast to claim victory when the opponent with scan prints has to leave.
>>98059908Sauce plz
>>98059896>>98059908I paypiggied when the mto metal commissars were a thing.Because I didn’t know of a metal recaster.How do I regain my izzat?And I need metal recast website links.
I like orks :D >>98059878I’d say there’s two definitions of glup shitto.>side character of stories who is a fan favorite every time they show up (which is what the origin of this phrase was used for). >complete background character with lack actual relevance to any stories (the way /40kg/ often uses it)so I’d say technically anything that isn’t a main character or posterboy is a glup shitto to be honest.
Now that the dust has settled, what do we really think of him?
>>98059916Exactly.
>>98059961He looks retarded back then, he looks retarded now.
What army jobs the least in lore?
>>98059916Retard
>>98059961He's not as cool as I thought he'd be from the silouhette (I thought he'd be a sniper droid with a tall head full of optics), but I still like it enough that he's in the list of admech kits I'd like to buy in the future.
>>98059961>dust settledIt never does.That model is too silly looking even by rogue trader silly standards.
>>98059972Yes seems I was correct.
>>98059969>loregross
>>98059969>Dark Angels>not fairy
>>98059969>the least in loreI’d probably say the orks.They already won as the galaxy is just a big vortex of war and violence and orks are made to forever love war and live off war.They won and truthfully I’d even say they’re the closest to being the good guys of 40k because they aren’t evil so much as they’re just doing what they were made to be and that is fighting and dying while fighting.Now the biggest jobbers in 40k have to be the planetary defense forces. Even the guard comes in to save them. And the pdf forces have to fail when an invasion occurs to justify marine and guard activity on a planet.
>>98059961would have been saved if he had actual knee joints halfway down. would have made him look like he can make great strides in seconds to get into a new position. might have also done with a short range flamethrower of some kind, so he gives off the image that he can rush you down and burn you to death if he needed to.
>>98059993PDF aren't a real army, you need to be playable for that.
>Russ confirmed deadfeels good bros
>>98060015why lie?
>Went to LGS to see if they had the Iron Warriors upgrade sprue laying around>Walk out with the Iron Warriors Combat Patrol insteadHaha...
Why don't you homebrew? Are you scared?
>>98059978Does that look like 50 dollars to you you dumb nigger
>>98059930>>98059932it's basedaHR0cHM6Ly9nb2ZpbGUuaW8vZC9hUHg4cXE=TmlnZ2Vya2lrZQ==
>>98060032I’m not scared. I just don’t have anything creative to offer as I don’t have imagination anymore.Any creativity I have is just a stirred soup of inspiration from other stuff.And I want to have my home brew pages like that instead have painted models photoshopped onto the pages.Oddly enough I think painted models of someone’s homebrew gives more “appeal” and probably makes the homebrew more “endearing” at least when I see it. It is kind of rare for homebrew fluff pages to be presented with painted models.
convince me not to buy a Valdor Tank Destroyer recast
>>98060038I either failed at copy and pasting or the website failed me as these are the last text symbols that make the link unusable.If the problem is me then I’m sorry for displaying my retardation.
>>98059969Wolves literally get sent to curb people usually without fail. Even I admit they are a bit Mary sue-ish, they’ve now been used to bring back Yarrick as well to dominate Armageddon.
>>98060032I am homebrewing right now, currently making my own ttwargaming system, it started as a 40k homeroolz bible and I went a bit overboard.>>98060038How2use plz
>>98060099>>9806008964
>>98060107I did use that.Either the original decode link is incorrect or i failed at copying and pasting or the website is having trouble because James is sending cyberattacks.It could just be idiocy on my part.
>>98060122Wait tried it again and got it working.I’m retarded as if I didn’t need more evidence of that.
>>98059969For a pokémon who only watched the cartoon growing up, what's the difference between a normal and fighting one?
>>98059993huge copout, when do orks actually get to win an armageddon-style conflict completely?
>>98059896I could buy an entire army for the price of these guys. They're cool and all, but there's just no fucking way. Maybe the flag guy though...
>>98059993enjoyment doesn’t necessarily mean they aren’t jobbing. a wrestler can absolutely love being the heel and losing every match, but in the end he’s still a jobber.
>>98059993>Good guys Anon, they're hyper violent cannibal warmonsters who kill and torture for fun. They're goofballs but they're still evil. Its by design, but so is the whole setting. >>98060144>Orkses is never defeated in battle. >If we win we win, if we die we die fighting so it don't count. >If we runs for it we don't die neither, cos we can come back for annuver go, see!
>>98060166>Ork trying to salvage some izzat after an overwhelming defeat
>>98060015Why do people dislike Russ so much anyway? Not his fault that emps ordered him to Bane Maggie-boy
>>98059878>TQGlup Shittos are obscure returning characters or characters from obscure media brought forward as a 'hey look at this!' moment for fans, I'd say you need to draw from extremely early material or shit that hasn't been mentioned in decades ro qualify as a glup shitto. Huron and the Red Corsairs are objectively glup shittos now, but now that they have modern kits they eventually won't be considered glup shittos because they won't be obscure.Just apply hipster logic when determining glup shitto potential. The Sensei? Glup shittos. Catachan? Not glup shittos.
>>98060178Can you really call an entire faction glup shittos? Not even an obscure one, just a renegade marine one.
>>98060172Emperor didn't. Russ was sent to arrest Magnus. It was Horus that tricked Russ into killing Magnus instead. Or Russ convincing the Emperor that Magnus had to go.
Let Chaos idols take this thread!
>>98059896Honestly I would be fine paypigging for vostroyans if they didn't do this jewish shit. Come on man. They know that a unit can take 2 special weapons, and only put 1 in the box. Then they make the special weapon dude cost $35 when the entire unit was $70...
>>98060015>Russ dead>Corax dead>Vulkan dead>Khan dead>Dorn dead>Peter Turbo back>Huron back>Defiler best model in the game now>Chaos Biker refresh coming >Fabius stole the Primaris source codeChaos reigns.
>>98060167Its an admittedly morker perspective.
>>98060185I think specific factions can be, at least in 40k. There's a wealth of old material and groups who haven't had a word said about them in literal decades.
>>98060178>Huron and the Red Corsairs>hasn't been mentioned in decadesHuron and Red Corsairs been mentioned in every edition. They're associated with the Badab War which has been major engagement since Rogue Trader. The fuck you on about?
>>98060167What does izzat mean in this meme context of the orks never losing?
>>98060189> It was Horus that tricked Russ into killing Magnus >Or Russ convincing the Emperor that Magnus had to go.So, which is it?
>>98060166I think the orks are just a warmachine’s weapon that is still firing to this day.They don’t really have any capabilities to be anything other than violent organisms so my saying that orks aren’t evil is more so because they don’t have the capabilities to be anything other than warmongers.But maybe the canon changed a bit so I am open to being wrong.
>>98060230Depends on the source. I do not know of a version where Emperor ordered Magnus' death.
>>98060122>>98060135I must be retarded too because I can't get the trrt to work
>>98060250Nta but the Emperor did condone it when speaking with Malcador
>>98060203>Defiler best model in the game nowYou don't seriously believe this?Is this board that cooked??
>>98060122Looks like the last 2 characters in the decided link are incorrect.
>>98060135It wants a password. Am I in the right place and missing another clue or am I lost?
>>98060281>NOOOO you have to blindly say all new releases are bad!!!
>>98060234They have will and intent if that's a concern with them needing to make evil choices from some sort of contemporary christian mindset. They're not machines. They're just designed. Arguably they're more their own creatures than ever before after the old ones abandoned them.
>>98060284My guess would be the most unsavoury person described by 3 slurs>Nkf
>>98060089>still failwhat am I doing wrong?
>>98060295NTA, Anon please, I know you're using the green website because it's the first that shows up, there are options you can change, look at the text and think about it
>>98060281
>>98059969I told you last thread man, Nids are Bug + Dragon.
>>98060310>there are options you can change, look at the text and think about itAnd that I did...It worked. Bueno
>>98060138Normal is either normal animals with little flair, like a hamster or bird, or very strange things. Fighting is usually things with two arms and two legs that actuall specialize in fighting.
>>98060323Shadow in the Warp and synapse could also let them argue for psychic as well.
>>98060310>>98060324>mfw I'm on qbtorrent and have no idea what I'm doingThe first text is the hash and the second is a password of sort but I don't know where the fuck to put it. I am not a computers man
>>98059896>Two snipers are $45I remember buying the blister pack for like $14 back in the day.
>>98060339No clue but check these dubs I won't get, check something else
>>98059961If he had the HH skitarii legs he'd look great. The upper half is fine but the legs are just too much.
>>98060339What do you think of Windows?
>>98060346>HH skitarii legs>look greatgood one lmao
>>98060339Did you ever play on a Nintendo 64 as a kid?
>>98060347Windows is a 64 bit operating system by Microsoft.I want to throw myself out of a window rn
>>98060354They're better than big spindly silly stilt legs. HH skitarii at least resemble some kind of fast attack option.
>>98060358>still trying to convince people the HH skittles look like anything but steaming hot dogshitget out of our general James
>>98060281What do you think the strongest model in the gme is
QXJlIHlvdSB0ZWxsaW5nIG1lIHRoYXQgc2hpdCB3YXMgZW5jb2RlZCBpbiBiYXNlIDY0
>>98060359They probably should've followed the chicken walker legs a lot more closely, that and they already have perfectly fine skitarii in the first place.
>>98060321Japanese Warhammer twitter has really put my faith back into the hobby.
>>98060038Just got it, god bless you anon.
I DID ITI FIGURED IT OUTSMARTEST RETARD IN TOWN
>>98060367I've had the same thought several times recently
>>98060365Yes dummy>>98060038Wait a second, how the fuck is the file 6.3GB compressed and 200mb uncompressed, also those are Tallarn desert raiders
>From the moment I understood the weakness of my fle->m-mechanicus sisters, our response?
>>98060361Strongest, yes, but it looks awful
>>98060399>those are tallarn desert raidersPlease let it be real
>>98060402Kek, reminds me of the birds as bomb guidance systems.Once again I would like to remind that real life is crazier than fiction.
>>98060402As flesh must be tempered by steel, so too must steel be tempered by flesh. Knowledge of flesh leads to the strengthening of steel, which in turn strengthens flesh.
>>98060399You didn't uncompresses it properly >>98060410There are more than that lmao
I wonder what else we're getting. Honestly so much of the 4th/5th edition stuff still holds up quite well, it's hard to actually ask for anything.
>>98060410My old phone can’t view stls so I’m not sure if they’re vostroyans or tallarn now.But if they are tallarn then the troll was successful and well played.
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98060454Holy based. This shit can't download fast enough
>>98060454Where's the dolphin porn folder?
>>98060465How long has this anon been feeling it?Also I think it is better you use one image and be like the Tomb Kings soon poster.I recommend a cute dark eldar cheesecake pic with cute female abs.
Dark Eldar?More like Fart Smelldar.
>>98060460acktually technically the CSM did get their biker kit updated slightly because the first release had metal bits and those were gone in the update
>>98060454Very, very nice.I think I'll buy a 3d printer instead of blowing $500+ on toy soldiers
>>98060489Very halal and kosher choice anon.I did both and wish I got a printer instead.May your izzat be infinitely rising.
>>98060454Holy fuck
>>98060420>ww2 bat bombs and shity'know, I think warfare might get very weird with drones disguised as animals and stuff in the years ahead
>>98060438no, you're just mad that spess mahreens were proven to be the superior creature, go cry to iron hands about it, they might be more understanding
I FUCKING HATE FIXING UP OLD METAL MODELS
>>98060515Can't wait for all the "birds aren't real" people have a collective orgasm when they finally reveal military animal drones.
>>98059961I love this guy, and knowing that everybody else hates him makes me like him even more. It's my one contrarian opinion.
>started playing doom to pretend im the lion on my toaster>you can't vertical aimso this is the game boomers shit thier paints in excitement about...
>>98060460The orktober meme from years back really mind broke some of their player base
>>98060533wait til you play marathon
>>98060520even the admech don't like the iron hands
>>98059961why do the mechanicus of all people have guns made out of wood?
>>98060539Why not? I thought they were best pals.
>>98060473He's been at it a long ass time.
>>98060543Because they chop off their gene-wrought perfection and replace it with metal implements out of their innate insecurity over their own perceived weakness
>>98060536no horizontal aim either huh? challenge accepted>run into walls at odd angles to change camera directionpssh
>>98060502Can you just print these without cleaning them up?>t. Noob
>>98060520What's with the random iron hands seethe?
>>98060539>>98060547But iron hands and as mech have incredible close ties to each other.Where are you pulling this from?
>>98060533I mean it was a very old game back then. Blew people’s minds back then. It’s old school in that with it being ancient as context you can enjoy it for what it was back then.Or you can install brutal doom or something similar and make it more up to modern standards.Then install warhammer 40k mods for it if they exist as sonic mods exist for old doom.Or play the official boltgun game because GW probably cease and desisted the 40k fan made doom mods after boltgun’s release.
>>98060438>>98060547If this is the lore-canon way mechanicus are, then why are the biologis so peripheral and why don't I ever see a tech priest walking around with jacked bio arms? checkmate mechanicucks
>>98060534>memes for me, but none for theeJust eat your dessert.
>>98060559because the mechanicus aren't human perfection like space marines are
>>98060551Yes.
>>98060515I think it's already plenty weird. You got soldiers sitting in makeshift bunkers hiding from commercial drones strapped with cheap chinese mortar rounds controlled by some dude with a VR headset and a playstation controller.There are entire industries making smart ammunition that only required the pull of a trigger/push of a button, reducing the soldier to a living weapon carrier.Long gone is the idea that war is 2 armies in bright colors fighting in a field or sieging a fortification. War is quite, quite strange.
>>98060533Just use one of the Doom ports that allows vertical mouse aiming if it bothers you that much.
>>98060533>you can't aim upYou don't need to aim up. The game is actually 2D and rendered in a fake 3D, that's the genius of it. That's why there are no bridges you go under or anything similar.
>>98060546>first DERICICFI post was in October 2024Jesus.
>>98060533Warhammer 40k?
>>98060546out of curiosity, has he ever posted models?
>>98060568Just need to invent viable area denial EMP stuff to disable electronics and we can go back to shooting at each other without all the toys. Or, despite all the videos we see of successful strikes (how many failed or how many attempts did it take?), drones are not big enough problem to warrant a whole shift in military doctrine just like a bunch of dudes running around with cheap RPGs and IEDs weren't. At times it feels like WW1 trench warfare stuff with all the crazy grenade lobbing catapults and crossbows soldiers built to harass the opponent, but none of it was enough of a game changer to shift the course of the war.
>>98060548marathon has vertical aiming, I think it was the first fps to ever have itjust you will get to a certain room on a certain level and wonder:"why the fuck is there a jumping puzzle in a game where you can't jump?"
>>98060567Was that just printed by you?I need digital pics of stl models that will print out and be in indistinguishable from the original things once printed (properly) and painted.So I’ll know the scan quality is good enough.>t. Want to scan resin third party before James gets them.
>>98060601Probably not.Probably just a meme that is now a tradition other anons have taken up.
>>98060609Yeah I printed that on my mars 1There are way better printers now
>>98060602I want a future where camo is pointless and ranged weapons are defeated by sophisticated protection, so the only approach in war is massed melee combat
>>98060643I, too, am down with the clown.
>>98060038Absolutely based
>>98060643"The slow blade pierces the shield".Return to your Dune ancestry, 40k brother.
>>98060635Thank you.A lot of discussion is going on at /3dpg/ about images to 3d ai for archiving models.I might pay a subscription for this power.
>>98059896Why this must be so expensive being old shit?
>>98060038FUTURE IS NOW BOOMERS
>>98060653i like clowns so fucking much...
>>98060665Because for some reason the models of 20 years ago must be priced to match the models of today.
You guys like my hive tyrant I just painted?
>>98060676pretty good>Whole ass terminator at the baseis that printed? It always confused me how some people would put whole ass miniatures on bases
>>98060602I literally just watched a video talking about the role of tanks and drones relative to each other in the ukraine-russia war. It focused on a specific engagement they had footage of are ukrainian Bradley IFV vs a Russian T-90. The Bradley blinded the russian tank by blowing up their camera systems for long enough to get a serious hit in with its much smaller cannon. Then they flew a drone in to finish it off when it was immoblized by hitting a tree. Over all the video was definitely biased in favor of the american military industrial complex, they literally show an expensive tank being taken out by an IFV+Drone combo but they still said "we should keep manufacturing tanks".
>>98060653>picfuck me, why are people so creative
>>98060676Very niceI have some ‘nids but I can’t decide on a color scheme
>>98060710green and purple
>>98060667>insulting boomersWe call them uncs now.>it is inevitable we all become boomers and uncsAre those who got in during eighth edition now uncs/boomers?
>>98060602why do you think drones are not a game changer?
>>98060710orange and teal
>>98060723thanks doc
>>98060687I know the video you're talking about. What you should also take from that - apart from that the russian crew survived - is that a tank should never be operating alone as well. Very few vehicles should be operating on their absolute lonesome without regional intelligence, spotting drones or infantry support. Russian tactics at their finest.
So many blueberries
>>98060732Have all the militaries around the world dropped everything and started buying cheap drones and munitions in massive quantities to replace their existing militaries?
>>98060676I wonder if he's gonna show up and start being weird
>>98060676Nice tyranid unironically, anon, next time just show him.
>>98060756https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68ugkg9RePc
I shall repopulate Cadia
>>98060756
>>98060676Tyrranid players actively embracing the stereotypes at this point.
>>98060685the FLGS i lived nearby at the time sold used models, many of them were broken or missing parts which made them especially cheap, So its nice to have center pieces that have some flair. It also takes a model that might otherwise just take up shelf space at a FLGS and gives it purpose while keeping the local place in business. I do try to keep it consistent in that all my dead models on bases are part of the same imperial guard army.
>>98060814Since when Ultramarines became Dark Angels? lol
>>98060685Comes from the toxicrene kit
>>98060821Fe(male) counts?
>>98060824You mean Space Wolves?
>>98059894Looks glorious anon, really nice job. Criminal lack of compliments.
>>98060824When in space Rome, fuck young boys, Valdez.
>>98060840this is not canon, guilliman unironically enjoys space elfussy.
>>98060847From their perspective, Guilliman is the young boy. He's barely 300
>>98060687>It focused on a specific engagement they had footage of are ukrainian Bradley IFV vs a Russian T-90That remains one of the most Kino vids to come out of the war, although it has made me think about how good tanker ear protection must be since being inside a tank while it’s getting face fucked by 30mm seems extremely loud
>>98060857She's grooming him. Monkeigh Manchurian Candidate
So what actually are the fastest armies in the game right now? Is it Emperor's children and Blood angels?
>Almost every player at my local GW is a Xenos playerAll I gotta see now is:>Votann>Dark Eldar>Genestealer CultAnd I have seen the full collection.
>>98060903It's Dark Eldar, it always is Dark Eldar.
>>98060904DE and GSC are each like 2% of the total playerbase. Some areas are lousy with them, but generally you are unlikely to ever see anyone that plays them.
>>98060912There's no way Dark Eldar are rarer than Genestealer Cults.
One of the Beastmen attached to our squad keeps rubbing my bedding all over herself until it smells like her. I try to tell the commissar but he just tells me to get back into the trenches before he puts a bolt through my head. My cot’s been smelling like mutton for weeks. What should I do?
>>98060908That's what I thought too, but a couple of people made some compelling arguments last thread that they're actually a lot slower than usual. This Edition. Fly nerfs, movement speed decreases, no advance and charge, very little assault weaponry, and relatively few reactive moves, uppy downy, or 6-in deep strikes without hefty resource expenditures.
>>98060919take that filthy mutie out back and do what needs to be done for the Emperor
>>98060925But i don’t have a condom and she’s twice my height
>>98060602>how many failed or how many attempts did it take?Irrelevant. Even if 9 failed and 1 successfully destroyed the target, it was still more cost effective than a single 155mm artillery shell (unguided). The future is absolutely drone warfare
Dumb question but are Dire Avenger's eyes smaller than other eyes on Eldar helmets? I genuinely can't tell.
>>98060203where did we get word that russ and corax were dead, I thought they were mysteriously missing/dicking around in the warp
>>98060759The US is slowly starting to buy into cheap drones and we are seeing IDF drone strikes in Lebanon right now.
>>98060915DE at 2.8% and GSC at 1.5% of tournament rep respectively right now. Obviously there's a lot more casual players than tournament players but these faction are more popular with competitive types than casual players anyway so their actual rep may be even lower.
>>98060925Breed her to replenish Cadian numbers>>98060929Then it's not your choice, anon
>>98060936And a rock is cheaper than a bullet.
What are the odds Agents of the Imperium are getting removed or massively buffed at least?
>>98060951The rock doesn't do the bullet's job just as well. A fpv drone DOES do the artillery shell's job and for a fraction of the price. Legacy systems aren't going to disappear, but kamikaze drones have absolutely changed warfare. We've seen them in Ukraine, Mali, Lebanon. Larger drones like Shaheds have been spammed by Iran. Get used to seeing them.
>>98060904Sounds cool ngl, anon
>>98060955Agents, Grey Knights and Sisters might all just be lumped together into a single cohesive range.
Why aren't you playing Eldar?Stupid mon-keigh.
>>98060964May we see your Eldar, Autarch-kun?
>>98060919>BeastmenNo beastmen should be allowed in 40k.Exterminate them.
>>98060904sounds like you need to start a deathwatch army
>>98060804>>98060945We need to keep Cadia's breeding centers free of GSC influence and infiltration.
Assassins are cooler than space muhreenz.
>>980609641. not gay2. ridiculous race condemned by slannesh 3. cegorach people, the cool ones, trapped with corsairs and craftwolder fags4. ruined forever by gav 5. yvraine forgotten foreveryeah i don't think so, fag.
>>98060964I'm waiting until 11th to see what the best way to play Harlies is
>>98060975There is a long list of things cooler than SM but i dont think assasins is one of them.
>>98060977Corsairs are cool as fuck. Horrible taste.
>>98060961Drones will be fried by microwave lasers and microwave emitter drones, and optic fiber just got like thrice as expensive
>>98060975https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSGO--JdAUA
>>98060983Yeah, Red Corsairs are sweet.
>>98059961I grew to like the concept but I really wish the legs were angled and digitigrade in a way that invoked a tall wetlands bird
>>98059961Why is GW inable to make ADmech right for 40k? Why they can do it in 30k?
>>98060990I've always wondered what the deal is with the speaker thing
>>98061000>do it right in 30k AHAHAHAHA
>>98060990Garantine UOOOOH
>>98060986Countermeasures like lasers and high-tech EW will be luxuries only rich armies can afford. The poors are going to be drone fodder.
>>98060967Shill me Deathwatch, do I get buffs against aliens?
>>98061001dark angels
>>98060961They're gonna change things just like cheap RPGs and IEDs changed things. A bunch of poors lobbing them at each other because they're easier to get than tanks and artillery isn't going to revolutionize warfare as we know it.>A fpv drone DOES do the artillery shell's job and for a fraction of the price.Yet nobody's talking about replacing artillery with a bunch of cheap drones.
>>98061001Your average marine player.
>>98061001Space Wolves
>>98061007I really like how the guns don't have triggers so that (presumably) only skitarii can use them
>>98061001This is some sick eldar shit
Commisar i do NOT have an abhuman fetish I was just holding that voxtape for a friend
>>98060687>Over all the video was definitely biased in favor of the american military industrial complex, they literally show an expensive tank being taken out by an IFV+Drone combo but they still said "we should keep manufacturing tanks".You need context. You're looking at an uncommon exception and taking it as a rule.Normally it would be uncommon for a Bradley to get a mission kill on a T90 like that. Optics are a small target while the Bradley is a large target. The normal outcome of a tank vs IFV combat with equivalent crews would be for a smoking crater in place of the IFV.Also, Russian military tech is almost a generation behind equivalent generation US tech in practice, due to lack of maintenance, parts, fuel, crew training, visual systems, etc. Bradleys and T90s are both 90s designs, but functionally a modern Bradley may as well be decades ahead of an updated T90.At *minimum* it takes three drones to take out a current gen tank, potentially much more; whereas you can take out an AFV or lighter vehicle in 1-2.Tanks are still valuable in modern militaries (which is why all sides keep making them and sending them to the front) because nothing matches their combination of firepower, protection, and mobility.Bradleys and other IFVs are good, but with their lesser armament they're not as good at storming a trench line and blowing up bunkers with their cannon (which I've seen in practice in the Ukraine War with tanks).If the USA god forbid ever comes up against Chinese tanks landing on e.g. Taiwan from amphibious ships and fighting on trench lines and hillsides of limited mobility, they're going to want to have tanks of their own to mount a response - which is why Taiwan bought 100+ M1A2T tanks from the US.Yes the military industrial complex is real and does push for their interests, yes sometimes they are out of touch of the changing battle landscape, but foreign countries aren't ordering huge numbers of tanks from the USA because they're useless.
>>98061001looks like the kind of person that drill wolves anus.
Were there any teases for new releases in that big Q&A video?
>>98060964I was gonna play craftworlds. But now I'm waiting for exodites
>>98061032it's no worse than leeman russ taking red dog rockets
>>98061024>Yet nobody's talking about replacing artillery with a bunch of cheap dronesUkraine is already doing that to some degree, training artillery crews as drone operators. USMC is already planning on how to incorporate drones on a squad level, with "long-range ground strike" missions in mind. Like I said before, legacy systems aren't disappearing, but drones are absolutely going to be filling niches that were previously occupied by arty and conventional airpower.
>>98061013I'm just happy they brought covered rams and shotgun meta back
>>98061066Yeah, having some drones in the mix as situational weapons with a niche is not exactly the same as the future being 24/7 drone warfare.
>>98061088>24/7 drone warfareI've repeatedly stated that drones won't completely replace tanks/arty/airpower. I am willing to bet that soon the Pentagon will see the value of standing up entire drone battalions and treat them as a primary combat arm, similar to what we are seeing in Ukraine. Big organizational shifts like that just come slowly to bureaucracies, which is what big militaries are.
>>98061046>another space posterHi. All of what you say is wrong. It's uncommong for bradleys to remove a russian tank because they're spotted and removed before such a threat is near them. It's called combined arms.Russian tech isn't a generation behind, they have no production and rely on imports. I have friends who migrated to the US and told me all about how pilot companies near their borders buy up west stuff and sell it at a higher price to russians under the table.Three drones to take out a current gen tank? Abrams always lost at drone#1. The updated M1A2's were seen dying there. Ukraine were asking for DU armor versions but they were witheld.Tanks being valuable depends on the operation. This should be spoken by a general, not an armchair general. Look at history to teach you, not someone online.Bradleys and other IFV's being good is subjective, majority of when most IFV's come under fire is when they fail. You see random videos of a MRAP taking a mine with artillery bombing everywhere and a mini drone hitting it on the side; but here's a secret. Those get scrapped pretty often. Unrepairable and one-use. They've had failures with deaths more than half of these engagements or more.(they're glowing targets on the Ukrainian PLAINSLANDS)Taiwan is light tank territory if any. Look at a map of the islands please.>insert internal subjective remarks about industrial complexYou know nothing about the 'industrial complex' if you're using that term. It's called Stock Interests. The global supply chain and how things get to point A to point B, but the step before that. The *decision* that it gets to happen in the first place.
>>98060676>fat, with ugly manhands and dirty fingernailsWhy would you even post this shit you disgusting subhuman? Just be fucking normal and post the model on a desk.
>>98061066Because they can't afford artillery shells since they've used up a lot of their current stock, and EU artillery shell production is more limited than Chinese DJI mass market drone production.Think of it like switching to your sidearm when your rifle runs out of ammo.Drones have advantages of ambush and manoeuvrability over artillery (leaving aside specialised munitions like Excalibur), but they have many more downsides: less explosive power, being able to send much less boom downrange much less quickly, shorter engage range, longer response time (I can call position to arty team and have it blown up in 3min or wait 15min for a drone), drone flight time allowing them to be potentially evaded in a fast vehicle, and the ability to actually shoot down drones.Artillery is still King of the Battlefield in terms of actual casualty rates. https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/have-drones-replaced-artillery-in-ukraine-war-sa-022026 70-80% of casualties are arty.Don't let yourself get excited by the new thing just because it's new, artillery is here to stay
>>98061130>pics of women>implying
great thread
>>98061134Why is the global producer of artillery shells Germany by global volume? They had a big thing about this last month.>switching to pistol when main gun runs outNobody says that in real life. It's an afterthought in the military. You are a FPS nerd for saying that.(wait 15min for a drone) speaker, dude you are getting a higher chair with each response, cut that high you have and think about this drone versus artillery argument. Artillery are when available, and bewteen barrel cool offs, and revealing that there is artillery NEARBY with the baiting attacks 'to test if it's nearby' for counter battery - same argument of tanks being useful, drones cannot be counter batteried, and have obvious advantages over artilleryArtillery being king swings both ways, the waves crash in, and fall back.>artillery is here to stayYes.>>>/k/
>>98060685>>98061115>>98060710Thank you! Here's the rest.
>>98061155very great. how’s your painting going? I slept most of the day because I had a long week, but now I’m starting on my collage submission.
>>98061161I didn’t reply to the original post, I just thought it was laughable you thought that was a woman. talk about falling for something hook line and sinker.
>>98061162you need more gaunts>buy the 10th edition marine+nid box set and sell marines offBuy 100 box set. Sell Marines for 25. Sell terminators for 39(to get sold). Sell captain for 15. Sell whatever you hate about the nid side, usually the big item for 35. Free tyranids. About two hours of work boxing them. Use official pictures on the main website for display. Be sure to say "New NO BOX" and list the item as used to avoid issues and keep the sale records for taxes.
What are the most thematic army pairings? Like, say, you were building a diorama of two armies fighting. Which armies would you place against each other?For me, tyranids vs. imperial guard is a classic.
>>98061176>free 20 gaunts, leapers and either warrior leader or big fattie farter nids cost over 140 dollars (but free for 2 hours of work and some record keeping)
>>98061167whats the collage theme?
>>98061134Drone units can conduct reconnaissance, track enemy units, destroy those units, and film the aftermath in real-time. They can do things that we currently rely on more expensive, less efficient systems for and they can do it quickly. Artillery may be here to stay, but precision fire is going to increasingly become the domain of drones.
>>98061179nah, orks vs imperial guard is way better, though orks vs space marines is a close runner up though. of course, they’re all beneath the most thematic pairing orks vs orks
>>98061160>Nobody says that in real life. It's an afterthought in the military. You are a FPS nerd for saying that.I'm explaining a concept to a fantasy tabletop wargamer with an analogy, it's called know your audience.>speaker, dude you are getting a higher chair with each response, cut that high you have and think about this drone versus artillery argument.ESL? This sentence was incomprehensible >Artillery are when availableTrue but the same does apply to drones. Drone teams/cells aren't literally everywhere, you need people based in a house somewhere near the frontline to pilot the drones.This comes back to the argument as well of "sometimes the better more expensive thing isn't available so you need the cheaper thing". Yes I agree sometimes artillery isn't available but if you could choose between having drones or arty you'd choose arty.>drones cannot be counter batteriedThey actually can, a lot of drone warfare is conducted out of houses, there have been instances of fibre optics being traced back to the operators and drone cells being destroyed. Then there's drone jamming for non fiber optic drones >YesGlad we agree.>/k/I didn't start this, just stepped in to correct the misconception that drones will replace arty
>>98061176The 10th starter set box? Do people really still pay that much for pushfit marines?
>>98061179If we want to get really stereotypical:Blood Angels vs OrksUltras vs NidsNecrons vs AdMechVotann vs OrksChaos Demons vs GKImperial Knights vs Chaos KnightsIron Warriors vs Imperial Fists
>>98061203>misconception that drones will replace artyliterally nobody said artillery was getting replaced, the argument has been that drones will do SOME of the jobs we currently use artillery for and this WILL cause a shift in military doctrine.
>>98061203yeah just gotta trace that cable back...
>>98061179shadow wizard money gang vs space furries
>>98061195“big dudes” I’m stretching it a bit by having it be a diorama of a “big boy klub” instead of a particularly big dude, but I think this way is really funny.
>>98061179Grey knights and space wolves. Real talk though, Games Workshop needs to have more Imperium factions at each other's throats in written lore. It would highlight that the Imperium is a dysfunctional shitshow that's constantly ripping itself apart and on the verge of collapse, while providing more narrative reasons why a good portion of battles happening on the tabletop are space marines vs space marines
>>98061179orks vs imperial guard for barbarian hordes smashing against normal men trying to surviveorks vs space marines for having two artificial creations made for war fighting each otherorks vs necrons to reenact the war in heaven after all these yearsorks vs space elves for sibling rivalryorks vs chaos space marines for two barbarian hordes smashing into each otherorks vs orks for two groups of lads having a fun time.
>>98061179i have gold themed SoB as my first army idk what matches sisters best thematically, i think i will do iron warriors as my 2nd just to have a bunch of silver next to them
>>98061179BA vs Orks. Orks vs Squats. Ultras vs NidsYellow Eldar vs NidsWhite Eldar vs Chaos Chaos vs DA Inquisition vs Chaos Dark Eldar vs IGNecrons vs IGSW vs the knot
>>98061227Nice, I painted these guys this week.
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>>98061179I have a bit of a bias but I like guard vs tau the most. Guard vs genestealers a close second place.But then again I like guard vs just about any army.Even themselves.>>98061243I think gw is trying to go back on “repairing” the imperium because it primarchs coming back and to try and capture the superhero lovers.But still trying to keep things as a dark sci-fi fantasy.So while there are imperium vs imperium possibly still being told even now by gw, they are most likely “less lethal” and more just bad mistakes from bad imperium functions rather than the grey knights vs space wolves conflict where both sides are technically correct.Would love to see a new mars schism over Cawl’s stuff.A Moirae Schism but so many mechanicus are sick of Cawl and don’t care about big blue gorilla man’s protection.
>>98061217Ok, I'll admit nobody said drones are gonna replace artillery. Just that drones are more cost-effective and the future is drone warfare. Which sounds awfully more like drones taking over from less efficient artillery than "there's gonna be drones used sometimes, somewhere."
>>98061203>there have been instances of fibre optics being traced back to the operators and drone cells being destroyedI had wondered about that after seeing footage of drones spooling miles of fiber optic out their cloacas
>>98061221I have a sneaking suspicion there's drone operators in the area.
I fuck a Beastman bitch in the trenchesI fuck a Longshanks bitch in the minefieldsI fuck a Gland Warrior bitch in the medbayI fuck a Felinid bitch in the jungleI fuck a Nightsider bitch in the watchtowerI fuck a Ratling bitch in the mess hallI fuck a Ogryn bitch in the bunksI fuck a Navigator bitch in the voidshipsI fuck a Neandor bitch in the tunnelsI fuck a Votann bitch in the armoryI fuck a Psyker bitch in the infirmaryI fuck a Troth bitch in the forestI die and fuck a Living Saint in the afterlifePraise the Emperor
>>98060676Very nice tyranid paint scheme and execution of said paint scheme>background Should I sue my living father and my mom’s ashes for their genes not making me attractive?I’m sure Americans have sued for worse.I am sure a lawsuit broke out over 40k models.I know Games Workshop sued ChapterHouse, lost and is still booty blasted over it to this day.
>>98061273I supposed a tank could be considered a dude in a sense, especially if they have a proper machine spirit.
>>98060540Wood is a fantastic material that we take for granted. Reasonably durable and nearly infinitely versatile, and thats in real life where we don't have gene-mod bullshit to make grimdark future trees.
>>98061314Glad that you’re keeping your hands off curious eldar women so I can fuck them.Anybody got that pic of the dude surrounded by eldar banshee girls?
>>98061334>wanting to fuck xenosyou sick fuck
>>98061179guard vs traitor guard or cultists
>>98061277>drones are more cost-effectiveFor precision fire like taking out vehicles (including tanks) or even just an individual infantryman, they undeniably are. >the future is drone warfareEveryone on the battlefield is going to have to adapt to the presence of drones: logistics, artillery, air crews, infantry, armor, etc. The future is drones, in so much as they are going to be a major presence on the battlefield going forward. They are not going to be unique to Ukraine and they are not going to just be support elements.
>>98061358>That one guardsman strangling a cultistI love it.And I’m reminded of the Abby choke edit memes.Not sure what more could be made of 40k that hasn’t been done already at this point.
>>98061355>sick fuck for liking Xenos women of humanoid women’s shapeI also get off to attractive women of adult age.
>>98061179I am partial to Imperial agents (as in, sisters, inquisitors and deathwatch with guard tanks) against Chaos Space Marines.Kind of a Fantasy matchup with only the Chaos guys being superpowered
>>98061179Salamanders vs Dark Eldar Night Lords vs Tau (Why be the lesser evil vs the greater good)Alpha Legion vs Genestealer Cult (subversive treacherous infiltrators with polluted a bloodline vs some weird purple people)Votann vs Eldar (elf vs dwarf is a classic)Mechanicus vs Necrons World Eaters vs OrksGuard vs TyranidsSisters of Battle vs Word BearersCustodes vs Grey Knights (Horus Heresy 2.0)
>>98061369GW actually calling out that drones would be everywhere and used for anything was one thing they got right about Tau. its just its more SMS than gun drone, but i've seen gun drones too.
>>98061046That poster. Very informative.
>>98061369i feel like the whole cost-effective argument doesn't sell the whole picture though. Theres cost-effective, and there is effective. Cost effective is good return on investment money wise in that the cost of deployment and neutralising the target is economically viable. Effective just means it can neutralise the target. Drones are Cost-effective but are much less effective than standard combined arms warfare, the war in ukraine devolved into drone slinging as a cheap, and easily accessible way to sling munitions at the enemy in a situation where there is inconsistent airpower.
>>98061179Salamanders vs unarmed eldar children
>>98061369Soldiers already got to worry about all manner of guided and unguided explosive munitions coming their way. Before we had videos of soldiers running away from drones, we had videos of soldiers running away gunships shooting at them.
>>98061358Sometimes I see DKoK art and it makes me wanna start an army of them. But then I remember they lost all their cool WW1 FW stuff and the plastic units look soulless and I move on.
>all this talk about dronesAny chance that any of you know of an stl proxy for the satellite dish looking drone robot?Preferably while looking capable of mobility please.I want to try and repurpose some dkok veteran guardsmen for specter squad.
>>98061401So Dark Eldar, who are mostly flash clone child soldiers armed with kitchen utensils and ripped pants on ketamine.
I wish they would make more eldar knights.
>>98061415What does soulless even mean in this context?I thought the plastic dkok look fine.
>>98061179Night Lord-Drukhari alliance vs Tau-Votann alliance
>>98061422Knights in general are based. They are the only range I would start a new army for. Right now I just can't justify the expense. I'll see how they preform in 11th.
>>98061422They will come alongside exodites inshallah
could a kind anon hook me up with a chaos knights codex? I wanna peep the lore bits before I seriously consider wasting hundreds on a single fucking knight
>>98061426Votann and Drukhari work more together than Nightlords do with anyone
>>98061400Drones have been proven effective against armor, light vehicles, infantry, and even a few rotary aircraft. There are hours and hours of footage validating this.
>>98061409Now those gunships have to watch out for $300 quadcopters.
>>98061325>gene-mod bullshit to make grimdark future treesAs far as I understand, 40K doesn't really have that either. I mean I'm sure they could but supply and demand is out of whack, wood is a finite luxury good because they can't grow enough trees to keep up with the sheer scale of the human population. This is why shit like the Tanith having wooden stocks on their lasguns is out of the ordinary and something special. All that said, if anyone's doing doing gene modding and keeping the results for themselves it's the mechanicus, and I'm sure you could write something in for /youradmechdudes/ that they have an exclusive genemodded tree farm if you wanted
>>98061426>>98061452I know votann are said to be Xenos on the warhammer webstore but are they really Xenos or are the actually abhumans?If abhuman does this mean that technically the adeptus mechanicus can research their stuff and repurpose it for their needs because of this?Could their votann computers be considered stcs?Admech is already doing lots of work with necron tech.
>>98061452'member this?pepperidge farm remembers
>>98061457Yes, im not denying thatbut, a drone is not as effective as a Javelin, even if it is more COST-effective. and while drones are able to disable and take out tanks, generally the footage only shows the drone strikes that work. In interviews with ukranian tankers, the only place that is worse than being in a tank inside the 'Grey zone', is to be outside of a tank. They have proven effective, but they are not the best weapon system, im sure that a ukranian soldier would much prefer a hellfire on demand to an FPV drone. Drones are so prolific right now due to their cheap cost, large economy of scale due to the ability to utilise civilian components, and their ability to provide both reconnaissance and strikes for their cheap cost. Drones are not going to replace anything on the battlefield, they are simply going to become another tool for the ground fight, with which doctrine will need to adapt to.
Has it been confirmed or ignored by gw that autoguns can technically deliver powerful punches over lasguns due to custom rounds but the lasgun wins out because armies self recharging batteries that are their lasgun’s magazines is more logistically able to be supplied than constant streams of solid slug ammunition?
>>98061492javelins are trash though.
>>98060746>>98060883can one kindly ask you gents to produce said video?
>>98061488Abhumans but the Imperium doesn't give a shit and marks them as Xenos. It begs the question how many other DAoT places the Imperium steamrolled during the Great Crusade that they marked as Xenos but didn't know any better.
>>98061511just look it up on youtube>t90 vs bradly ukraine
>>98061492to add to this, drones will, i feel, become increasingly prolific, and the focal point, within smaller militaries, and those with more limited capabilities, as they are an incredibly cheap platform that can give access to a large number of different capabilities that in a larger military, would be done by a much costlier, and effective, dedicated weapon system or platform. A drone cannot replace a tank, it cannot replace a MANPAD, and it cannot replace the attack helicopter, in their capabilities. BUT, it can do a fraction of the job, for a fraction of the price, and just being able to get a fraction of some of those capabilities is worthwhile for nations unable to get their hands on the required number of other systems. If artillery production numbers were able to keep up with demand, and if tanks, and demining equipment was available in large enough numbers, i do not believe that the war would have devolved to such a state where the drone is the primary threat within the grey zone. The primary advantage of the drone, outside of the cost argument, is the ability to infiltrate where larger, more effective equipment cannot, at little risk to the operator.
>>98061473On top of having to watch out for ground fire, AA, missiles, enemy helos and planes, etc. So nothing new under the Sun.
>>98061488>post about racial genetics>post number 1488What are the fucking odds lol
>>98061510explain how they are trash
>>98061530on 4chan? probably higher than you'd think.
>>98061488They are abhumans sent out by early DAOT humanity on sublight ships to colonize the galactic core. The Imperium sometimes classifies them either way, but they are de facto abhumans. Their ancestor cores are 100% STCs, yes. The Admech doesn't know this, though. In fact the Imperium does not have much information on Votann at all. They're very isolated and secretive. Of course the ancestor cores are Abominable Intelligence, so...
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>>98061532you need to expose yourself, you need to be within sight, you need to carry back the targeting system, they only actually hit about 10-30% of the time, even a stationary target and are far too expensive. Ukraine stopped caring about them even long before Russia ran out of armor.
>>98061516>the Imperium doesn't give a shit and marks them as XenosDo they? There's squats on Necromunda and they're not considered xenos.
>>98061544There's enough varieties of Votann like Demiurg which the Tau and Imperium alike aren't 100% knowledgeable are both Votann.
>>98061543the 10-30% figure, do you have evidence to support that? because from what ive seen, its closer to 90%besides, a javelin anti-tank missile system is $300,000 with the first missile, and $100,000 a shot after that, going on the cost-effectiveness argument, that still wins out for being a power of 10 cheaper than even the cheapest russian shitbox of a T series tank or BMP.
>>98061535>Their ancestor cores are 100% STCsAll I've seen written about them makes them out to be more than STCs.
>>98061492>not as effective as a Javelin"Not as effective" is not the same as "not effective". Drones are effective enough and have far greater range. They can also locate and track the target in ways an infantry unit with a Javelin cannot. Both have their virtues and saying one is plainly better is silly.>not going to replace anything on the battlefieldThey already have overlapping roles with many more expensive systems. I've already stated multiple times that I am not saying they are "replacing" anything, but they are absolutely doing jobs that used to require arty/aircraft/armor and doing it on a budget.
should I kitbash a drukhari army into a chaos eldar army?
>>98061528Seemed pretty new to this guy
>>98061553>If we count the kills and abandoned vehicles, if every one was a success for a guided missile, then 45,000 missiles have scored 9,000 kills, a kill rate of 20%. But the real figure will be much lower.>PGMs have not been the big killers. A RUSI report on the first year of the conflict downplayed their impact, stating: “Despite the prominence of anti-tank guided weapons in the public narrative, Ukraine blunted Russia’s attempt to seize Kyiv using massed fires from two artillery brigades.”>In the latter stages of the war, FPV kamikazes have taken over as the main tank killers. Current estimates suggest 65% or more of armored vehicle losses are inflicted by FPVs and other small drones, not guided missiles.
>>98061564STCs are probably all like that
Hellblaster status?
>>98061568i am saying that in engaging enemy armour, one has a much higher hit rate, and a much higher impact on target, and thus, a higher effectiveness. If it takes one or two javelins compared to four or five drone hits to destroy an enemy tank, then the javelin is, outright, the more effective system. In terms of cost effectiveness, the Drone still wins, for the same cost of javelins you can have more drones wider afield, hitting more targets, BUT they are doing a less effective job of destroying each individual target.Its much quicker and easier to train a soldier to fire a javelin missile than it is to train a drone pilot to hit his target. It is also much quicker to destroy or render ineffective, a target that is a problem for you, with a javelin, than it is to wait for the one, two, three, however many drones it takes, to do the same thing. Drones are the poor mans solution to these problems, and along with a lower effectiveness per drone, they also have the issue of not being as rapid in the destruction of those targets except in the exact situation the ukraine war is in, where the frontline 'greyzone' is tens of kilometers deep. >>98061577ive read that forbes articleits retardedits not comparing the hit rate of each individual fired javelin, but comparing the overall number of javelins to the overall number of destroyed armoured vehicles. its like the 240,000 rounds of ammunition to kill a single taliban in the afghanistan war, where it also included ammunition expending in training, including state side training prior to deployment. It isn't the hit rate of the individually fired missiles, which can be fired at a wide array of targets, not just armoured vehicles.
>>98061591WHC article described them as "self-organising datastacks and quantum infocores" that "held all the information a people might need to survive among the stars – weapon specifications, military theory, genealogical data, science, philosophy, and even Standard Template Constructs." The cores aren't STC, but they contain STCs. The cores are something greater, running their whole societies, rather than just being instructional manuals.
>>98061604You're so strange dude
>>98061613Standard Template Construct refers to both the AI device and to the blueprints it contains. What you describe is an STC.
>>98061610>frontline 'greyzone' is tens of kilometers deepwhich exist because of how effective drones are. I understand that in the very specific roll of destroying armor, the Javelin is technically superior. However; the biggest strength of drones, aside from cost, is their versatility. They can loiter, they can go into buildings, the can do recon, they can destroy a wide variety of targets, they can even resupply frontline units to a limited degree. That kind of versatility is why they are going to see continued use in future conflict, both by the "poor man" and major military powers.
>>98061643If GW retconned the Tau to be even more drone focused in war like we see IRL with the mechs as combined arms with the fire warriors to advance after waves and waves of drones, and thats how the Tau are beating the WW1 trench warfare tactics of the Imperium. Would people accept this retcon.Because to me thats my headcanon of who the Tau survive imperium invasions
which necromunda models are good for use in 40k?
>AWOO WITH ME BR - ACK!
>>98061643im not discounting the usefulness drones have, they can do all of those roles.but people need to recognise that the 'perfect usecase' of drones, is the ukranian war, simply because neither side has enough of a superiority in arms, or in the russian case, 5 functioning braincells, to allow for combined armed operations to continue.Drones will only again be as useful as they currently are in the Ukranian war, if you are stalemated with your enemy in manoeuvre warfare, and it bogs down to more static, frontline combat.
>>98061640When ever have STCs been described as doing the stuff Ancestor Cores are described as doing? If they're STCs, why does it say they contain STCs, rather then saying they're STCs?
>>98061658i feel the need to add here, that if the russians actually had competent officers, i feel like they would have cakewalked the ukranians in a couple of months at the outset of the war. That time is long gone now, and if the Russians did find the necessary number of braincells to coordinate combined arms warfare, they would have enough to also know they will not have the material to do so, for atleast another decade.
>>98061650>thats how the Tau are beating the WW1 trench warfare tactics of the Imperium.How are drones beating trench warfere tactics in real life? The whole thing feel like it has turned into trench warfare because of drones. Both sides just hunker down and lob explosives at each other.
>>98061662I meant in 40k not an irl war. Imperium uses mass infantry tactics which are blown up by Tau drones and then survivours are scattered pockets that are wiped out by crisis suits and fire warriors. So the Guard cant really beat the tau without support from Titans or space marines which are rarer forces.
>>98061655Imagine trying to explain why you made this to someone without sounding like a total freak.
>>98061659Quite literally all the time. Did you even read what you posted?
>>98061664Except thats not what drones do, really. Drones dont destroy massed infantry waves, drones create a space of persistent observation and threat, making coordination and movement of men and material harder. The Tau generally beat the Imperial guard by utilising classic combined arms tactics with a much quicker observation-to-effect chain and better reconnaissance. The tau see where the guard are massed, and so can conduct operations at the periphary of the massing to degrade the spearhead.When forced to engage the spearhead, they instead choose to give ground to attrit and degrade the abilities of the guard. The tau dont sit on a static position and destroy waves of guardmen with drones unless they have no option but to sit and defend something. Generally imperial victories over the tau had expressly resolved around the imperium being able to make the strategic situation to be one where the tau has to stand and fight somewhere, and hammer them down with overwhelming firepower, where the tau simply cannot use their better maneuverability to minimise losses and exploit tactical opportunities.
>>98061680All descriptions of STCs have the dealing with technology and creating schematics on making said technologies. Meanwhile, from GW themselves:>"Within these self-organising datastacks and quantum infocores is held all the information a people might need to survive among the stars – weapon specifications, military theory, genealogical data, science, philosophy, and even Standard Template Constructs. There is an unimaginable wealth of lore buried in each Votann, which cannot be allowed to fall into the more superstitious hands of outsiders."The Cores run the cloning facilities and factories that produce the Kin and Ironkin. When they die, their memories are uploaded to the Cores. Where in the fluff does STC do this?
The Votann need a robot like this.
>>98061691SMS are drone guided rockets and are the most comparable tool the tau have to a FPV drone with a grenade. SMS are AI guided however.
>>98061651A lot of them would make for good cultists of different vibes, like how warcry had a bunch of different cult styleshell if you really wanted to you could probably make a <your dudes> guard regiment of a less formal stripe with some of the gang models (orlocks, escher maybe)
>>98061667i've explained it to people at my LGS that it's an inside joke between me and a friend everyone's found it funny so far (:
>>98061651I use these guys (made from Cawdor and Old World flagellants) as Navy Breacher squads. Each unit has a melta, each dude has a gun and melee weapon so they are pretty much WYSIWYG as much as anyone cares.>fluff for them is that /myguys/ go into really fucked up areas to "redact" the corruption that has taken place>the Lord Inquisitor is a powerful psyker that will enthrall the surviving masses to die for redemption in the eyes of the Emperor>thus I use lots of rabble in the army
>>98061760Well if you consider me a friend then jokes are allowed. Well done brother.
>>98060964I have dark eldar so I’m just not going to play eldar
>>98061604un-painted!
>>98061770i hate you and think things would be better for everyone if you died (:
>>98060964oh but i am superior eldar mommy
I was on the fence about getting more crisis suits, but I must say 12 is a satisfying number of suits.
>>98061819>he bought Anon your shit is getting squatted for monopose kits.granted they’ll probably look worse (somehow).
>>98061819You need more drones. Fuckers are wounds for your suits.
>Primaris Marines are much larger than regular marines>Chaos Space Marines are the same size as regular space marines and Primaris marines???
>>98061833you don't actually need the drone models anymore. Which is good because they are unpainted.
What faction is the most neutral in galactic affairs? Hates the fewest others, and is hated the least in return.
>>98061857Theoretically Tau because of how local to their environment and small-scale they are. Many ought to not even know they exist.
>>98061857Do Exodites count as a faction? Space Amish.
>>98061857necrons just want people off their lawn
What does a Dark Eldar army list usually look like as most of their shit is missing? After I finish getting, building, painting, and learning how to play my first army which is Dark Eldar, I was gonna try to have Dark Eldar as my second army. Only issue is Dark Eldar don't got a lot of variety compared to Craftworld Eldar.
>Iron Warriors Combat Patrol sold out instantly>There's a bunch of Red Corsair Combat Patrol boxes thoughWhat went wrong?
>>98061891>how to play my first army which is Dark EldarCraftworld Eldar*I don't proof read
>>98061896Everyone looks like Mike brook, mk3 is an abomination, and it’s not even fucking chaos, it’s just shitty firstborn shit that’s less impressive than Hh shit.
>>98061891>What does a Dark Eldar army list usually look like as most of their shit is missingbecause it is
>>98061891dark eldar lists usually go something like this>does it look cool, does it have a modelor>how many dark lances can I fit in 2000 points of force org
>>98061896IW are probably getting a kewl perterabo model and further support down the line.
>>98061896mk3 without the helmet just looks like ass
>>98059969holy untreated autism
>>98061904sometimes these are the same army because ravagers/raiders/scourges ARE all cool
>>98061857Slaanesh is hated by all Eldar but methinks the horniest among them love everyone else. Even Nurgle, Khorne, Nids, etc.
>>98060030woops that happenshttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/AM1OAxvrPZg?feature=share
>>98060030>buying at MSRP when discount retailers selling new stuff for 20% off existwhy
>>98060838It is what it is, as they say.
>>98061896Virgin Corsairs aren't cool, unlike the IRON CHADS
>>98061953Sometimes you just go into your local store and its RIGHT THERE man. Also its good to support the LGS (not warhammer store, an actual LGS). They need sales to stay open, and its the hub for many peoples entire recreation + social life
>>98061960Well thanks for subsidising the hobby. The only way I can justify this hobby to myself is if I never pay MSRP for models.
>>98061971understand if you are really tight for money, but at least pick up some paints or brushes and stuff. These places usually are barely surviving, basically functioning more like community centers than businesses.
>>98061959
>>98061978I've bought almost all my paints from my LGS, mostly to make sure I don't get the shitty pots of dull, UV-blasted paint
>>98061984ABL: Always Be Lunking. Life iron for the Iron Within. Planet Fitness is for the soft and weak.
>>98061953>>98061971My LGS has a 20% discount on most stuff and a 15% discount on combat patrol and battleforces
>>98062000epic
>>98060135can you please help me? I have never done anything like this before and would really like these files.
>>98062025all the information you need is already in the thread, I believe in you.
>>98062025the second line is a password
How long does it usually take to paint an entire combat patrol? Simply painting a single Dire Exarch last night took me 3 hours.I'm noticing my painting skills are improving and taking me less time as well as getting somewhat better at brush control.
>>98062045I dont even know what program this is, if i could get that I can figure out the rest. pls help.
>Drukhari 10e Codex released in October>New Night Lords book released in OctoberI see they did this on purpose.
>>98061857Votann?
How much gacha slop can we expect from skulls? Also is it true warpforge is dead?
>>98062074I'm still slow, a single model like that would take me a couple hours and I have 4000 points of eldar. The quality does improve with practice.Yours is looking ok. The main thing is your paint looks textured rather than smooth, are you leaving it long enough to dry between the two (or more, yellow is a bitch) thin coats? I find I get texture if paint is still a bit wet before you add more, or if a layer is too thick.
>The last thing they released for the shitty card game for 40k was a primarchits like pottery, it ryhme.s
>>98060038I'm far too retarded to know how to use this
>>98061984>>98061998I need to hit a gym but I’ll still be ugly.I’ve already lost weight from eating healthier.Generally what 40k armies have the best physically fit looking players?And which ones generally have the most physically fat unhealthy players?And which 40k army has the most mentally unstable players?
>>98062123>The main thing is your paint looks textured rather than smooth, are you leaving it long enough to dry between the two (or more, yellow is a bitch) thin coats?I only did 2 thin coats but idk how long I left it for. How long should I leave it for?
How much time do I have to make an order on this before it's too late? I spent all my allowance on horus heresy
>>98062175I need a metal recaster of those badly.I think the price is because James knows profiteering recasters will be part of the purchasers.
>>98062132and no one will help, its all cryptic bs
>>98062175may 25th
>>98061891All advice is going to be based on 10th edition which is rapidly approaching its end but I'll give you the overview.So because of the limited roster range, and relatively low point costs of everything, every list is going to have a large portion of the codex options in it by default. There are some tools that you have to rely on heavily in every list though.Scourges are the only good anti-tank option and dark lances are the only reliable equipment they have to not get evaporated by Overwatch, so you only use haywire scourges in reapers wager where they can get OverWatch denial and rerolls to wound.Malys is now the only option you have to get a vect auea, a redeploy, and a significant damage dealer so she's basically an auto include. After that, every list either has mandrakes or reavers as screening and objective play option because they are the most mobile options you have for getting somewhere fast and cheap.Venoms are absolutely crucial because splitting your infantry into MSU blobs is super useful and recycling your melee threats by picking them up after the fight phase behind a wall gives you a lot more gas. Hellions are very deadly and fast for how cheap they are and combined with their reactive move and deep strike can threaten anything their 1AP won't bounce on.Wyches are very good for their point cost right now, especially if you can split them. They are extremely fast and disposable and can pop 10 OC anywhere on the board very quickly, especially if combined with a Raider.After that it gets real particular based on which kind of Detachment you want to play. There are four viable options right now and each only buffs a subset of the army.(1/2)
>>98061160>>>>/k//k/ is a sad parody of itself these days. Even before the Russian-Ukrainian shitshow there were sings.
>>98062208Spectacle is the most popular one currently so Wych and Hellion spam with a couple enhancement Succubi and Reavers fill out the ranks.Covenite Coterie is gaining popularity and relies on max Talos and a few Cronos and Wrack blobs lead by Haemonculi.Kabalite Cartel runs Ravagers, Scourges, and Incubi to deal a lot of damage but is very fragile.Skysplinter Assault brings lots of boats loaded up with Wyches and some other infantry threats to flood the board with catapulted trade pieces.Reaper's Wager uses a bit of everything with the occasional Troupe or Solitaire added for fun.A few more common inclusions:Lelith is your only Fights First threat but she's not as great as she was in index and has to be run with Wychea to do much.Kabalites are not great for their point cost but sticky objectives can be very useful and reroll wounds buff on Malys/Archon is nice so one unit split by a venom is common with all the special guns together and one trash buff unit as ablative wounds for a character.Archons getting a free stratagem like grenades every turn can do quite a lot for you and they do some respectable damage. And incubi love their buff.Drazhar is pretty great even on his own but gets nasty leading Incubi, except in SSA where his buff is wasted.Incubi are your other melee blender besides hellions and have better AP but are slower and more expensive and need to stack buffs to get the most out of them. 10 is overkill into most threats with a leader while 5 risks bouncing into larger things and getting wiped on the back swing.Cronos is a cheap and bulky distraction Carnifex that can take a pinch from small arms and hold an objective well with some pain token regen on the side.Voidraven is a less common tech piece since the massive point hikes but is the only thing you can peek over cover with to drop a lot of D2 attacks into staging marine blobs.Razorwing, Carb Scourges, and Hand of the Archon are terrible unitsWracks/Ravagers need CC/KC to work
>>98062144>Generally what 40k armies have the best physically fit looking players?My favourite faction>And which ones generally have the most physically fat unhealthy players?Your favourite faction>And which 40k army has the most mentally unstable players?Custodes
>>98062216>parody of itself these daysThat's every board, thread and general.No one is getting less senile the longer this website is up.
>>98062216I remember a detailed /k/ thread about muskets that devolved into American black gangsters doing 18th century tactics.A guy parodying the black tech priest made me remember that and ponder how fast I would get banned if I showed up at the lgs with a small guard army that takes inspiration from American black ghetto gangs as they are portrayed in American entertainment media.A good opportunity to practice different shades of dark skin but I’ll probably keep things mostly 1:1 mixes.Would scribbles of dark paint over light skin register as excessive tattoos every wannabe white rapper that’s stage name starts as “lil” work?I’ve found uncle ruckus stls from a search and might use the head as a lord commissar or lady creed proxy if I get motivated for this.I need to set up my printer and learn the printer first.
>>98062297>Mordian iron guard in USMC dress uniform colors>squad of gang militia/conscript in black panther colorsR8 my kek
>>98061896its 5 dudes in a rhinoshit makes the admech combat patrol looks like a good deal
To what extent would it be inappropriate to 'haggle' at my local game store? The shelves are overflowing with unsellable battleforces and I don't fancy paying £160 for one. (even with a discount the deal isn't great).
>>98062333Haggle for a bunch of fucking toys? Are you kidding me? How old are you? Do what a grown adult would do and start a riot in your town and in the midst of the chaos have gay passionate sex with the store owner and coerce him to give it to you for 35% off. #thuggrindset
>>98059961its silly looking and thats a good thingthe 40k setting is best when its slightly retarded
Chapter serf military would be interesting.I would imagine that their bulk is failed aspirants and failed neophyte who are modified to different phases but deemed to be unfit for further modification.Or would they just be forever neophytes until dead?Serfmarines are also a funny idea.Injured badly enough to be cripple by space marine standards but is deemed fit to serve outside battlefield.Could be a thing in chapters that have weird aversion towards machine parts.
>>98062333Just give it a try, can't hurt. Say something like "I can't justify the price to myself but would you be willing to do a discount on this one to clear this out", especially if you have noticed it there for quite some time you can bring that up
Why doesn't James just make Defilers faster or do an MTO on the kit?
Mashallah newrecruit shall be free
>>98062144>But I'll still be ugly.Don't let that get you down, chicks go for facially ugly /fit/ dudes all the time. Reducing your bodyfat percentage will also make you look more attractive
>>98062345>paying when you can just stealYou’re a coward. The Pokémon insanity is gonna reach warhammer soon and I’ll finally have an excuse to be a no games as avoiding the shops is a smart move to stay alive.
>>98062297>t I would get banned if I showed up at the lgs with a small guard army that takes inspiration from American black ghetto gangsI think a penal legion, or even just small penal batalion attachment would generally be quite easy to handwave, plus it would be a nice uno reverse for faggots who gripe "What? You can't imagine black people in space!?"
>>98062408I don’t think that union reverse card would work.Any kind of intended result usually comes by accidentally these days.>one example:At most I know a friend who was jokingly asked by someone of that crowd about the pride flags and he had an autism and said the doormat flag was a bad idea because it would get dirty from being walked over.So it was removed and apparently a schism over it among those types has happened over the removal.Anyways maybe the uncle ruckus creed proxy will sell that it is just in humor.I’m not sure how well an “action figure sized” uncle ruckus stl would work when I resize the head down to 28mm scale.
>>98062398>/fit/>reduce your bodyfat This is actually a gay lobby psy-op to make hetero men more attractive to gay men
>>98062425>“action figure sized” uncle ruckusDaemon Prince Uncle Ruckus.
Anyone got the Hive epubs?
>>98062428Gay men love bears.
>>98061112I didn't have time to reply to this earlier, but:>All of what you say is wrongBecause you lack reading comprehension and misunderstood what I was saying.>Russian tech isn't a generation behindI said "in practice". As in, I acknowledge both the US and RU are running 90s tanks upgraded, so technically the same generation. But RU is not upgrading their tanks to the same level of effectiveness that the USA is.A Challenger or Abrams with DU armour is much more durable than an "upgraded" T-90 with some ERA slapped on it, half of which are empty cardboard boxes with nothing in them due to Russian corruption.>The updated M1A2's were seen dying there. Ukraine were asking for DU armor versions but they were witheld.That's why I said "current gen." If they don't have depleted uranium they're not exactly current gen are they?>Tanks being valuable depends on the operation. Totally agree.>This should be spoken by a general, not an armchair general. Which actual generals will take time out of their busy schedule to post on /tg/ and correct an armchair general who claims tanks are useless?>Taiwan is light tank territory if any.OK so why are they buying Abrams?If you have tanks rolling ashore from amphibious landing craft you want to be able to hit back hard.
Is Kairos the only LoC allowed to have two heads?
>>98062443You'd know.
>>98062428No, it's a psy op to make you stop being an unhealthy fat fuck who'll die of a heart attack at the age of 35.
>>98062439Maybe the warhammer torrents thread on /t/ has them.It is not a blue board.>black library novelsYou’d think gw would rebrand bl from novels to graphic novels or comic books by now like how Star Wars’ EU survived a lot on comics and comic book adaptations of Star Wars novels but it seems gw hasn’t done that.There’s loads of BL novels and it seems James hasn’t adapted any into comic forms to milk the opportunities.Are there any more reasons beyond saving money and stupidity?
>>98062447As someone that has that bodytype and has been catcalled by gay man way more times than by women, yeah I know.
>>98062439>Anyone got the Hive epubs?No, James. I don't have access to any Games Workshop copyright material. You can go back to sleep.
>>98062451Novels are way, way cheaper to produce.
>>98062457You can upload a temp link here and GW wouldn't be able to do shit about it. I'm not asking for a link to a whole repository of novels just this one. I've shared tons of old codex and rulebook pdfs like that.
>>98062445not sure if its been retconned but having two heads used to be a standard model long ago
>>98062458I should have been clear about that part.But remember Maccrage’s Honour comic looks to me like a 3d cgi using comic and it looked pretty alright with a lot of editing.It means that now even sweatshop cgi can be serviceable to comics and gw could cut ridiculous amounts of corners even in comic adaptations of their already existing books.
>>98062482>It means that now even sweatshop cgi can be serviceable to comics and gw could cut ridiculous amounts of corners even in comic adaptations of their already existing books.which is werid because there is no lack of passionate artists who do 40k art. Obviously that would cost but...I doubt GW complains abaut a lock of Dosh. Granted GW are greddy top noch cuns so...yea.
>>98062470Ah right, 1989
>>98062508first edition
>>98062451James workshop produces worst BL novels
>get some old metal models>paintstrip them>have to debond and clear the superglue>forgot which arm goes on which models>two arms are severely damaged and need fixing>mouldlines and little metal tags everywhereIHATEIT IGATEIT IHATEIT
>>98062451their novels are flat out bad
Can someone explain the difference between contrast and shader like I'm dumb? Like I know what shader is at least
>>98062579I believe it has to do with the medium the pigment is dissolved in. Shader is just water and flows very freely into crevices and deposits there as it dries while contrast has a slightly oil base with more surface tension so the pigment flows but still distributes a bit more evenly and leaves a shiny glaze after drying.
>>98062530seems hard to operate
>>98062598That's what she said.
>>98062599reaching
>>98062579Contrast has a different medium with a different viscoity so it flows into cracks better.The other thing is that the pigments in in contrast aren't a uniform size. Most of them have a darker pigment that's more finely ground than the lighter pigments so it falls into the crevices in the model and pushes out the lighter colors so the low areas are darker than the higher areas.
>>98062607>the pigments in in contrast aren't a uniform sizedamn
If the pigments are specific to the contrast recipe then why do they sell this? Just to thin down other contrasts?
>>98062600not what she said
>>98062451Also porn. Make it a license deal for established outlets.
>>98062610Correct. You can't just thin down contrast with water or it runs too much and loses the even pigment distribution
