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>>98072191I'd need another pair of hands to count how many IW armies I've seen irl. Pretty sure we've even had one in this generalI have never in my life seen a single Alpha Legion army in 40k, the few people that like them are for lore reasons only.Also, why would they be releasing models like Kravek or bringing Perty back and hinting at IW getting their own codex if people didnt buy IW stuff you utter retard
Reminder that you don’t actually want foc.
Let Choas idols take this thread!
>>98072237>Choas
>>98072230I'd rather an actual FOC to build around than just pseudo foc with rule of 3.
>>98072219>tqGW has excess tactical rocks to avoid giving plastic sprues customization optional bits.GW ignores bad stls that are just bad or excessively detailed to comical levels to create the perspective that third party stls are bad.There exists or existed a good fan made 40k edition that does everything warhammer fantasy’s 9th age “edition” did but better and gw thoroughly stomped it.Plot points in 40k like the clone of fulgrim and Hansou’s marine factory, Loyalist Word Bearer Anchorite etc. are kept as a kind of “in case of emergency or lack of plot ideas break glass” thing which is why they haven’t been mentioned./pol/fags like to come to /tg/ and other boards to larp as those they hate to make people sympathetic to them.They’ll flock to culture adjacent threads the most which is why they were most active during the femstodes incidents.
>>98072247No you don’t. You’d complain you can’t take some stuff
>warhammer 40k is about space faring civilizations fighting eternal war covering the entire galaxy across countless planets>all the battles are on the ground, space combat is an afterthought?
>>98072246oh fug
>>9807225340k is about selling models of space marines, not models of ships
>>98072251You are not me, so stop trying to impose your lame ideas on me.
>>98072249>used the non cropped warhammer 30k silly gun image on my phone>wanted to delete post>deleted image insteadThis is a certified iToddler moment on my part.iPhone 6 in the current year btw.I’ve got 40k stls on this phone I need to save on my external hard drive.
>>98072227Just like how they made the kroot army expansion and emperor's children because they knew they'd fly off shelves and not rot in stores for years right
>>98072219>TQLocked Tomb trilogy is definitely 40k with the serial numbers filed off. God Emperor of mankind that lived on modern day earth as a human man swollen with power of a million souls. Ten thousand years after the catastrophe. A throne he's supposed to be sitting on to seal the warp but is trying to groom his child for sitting instead. Endless war with warp creatures created by humanity's own sins. Rebel heretic humans on isolated planets slowly losing against the religious tyranny of the God Emperor and his legions. 9 immortal godlike scions of the Emperor heading 9 houses each with their own quirky focus. Endless grind mill of noble houses feeding the war effort and built around human sacrifice.It's basically the same setting just with necromancers instead of space marines.It doesn't help that it is Mike Brooks's favorite book series and he clearly adores it.
>>98072230What if I have my own force organization based on the doctrinal level implementation of the typical hunter cadre in my sept.
>>98072246Cloaca
>>98072261>Just like how they made the kroot army expansionthey have to throw xenos players a bone every now and then and that was mostly as a result of kill team>and emperor's childrenhave sold well as far as I know, the codex is pretty weak thoughNot that any of that has anything to do with IW, any more whataboutism?
>>98072219>tqI'm starting to believe >>98072237
>>98072257I am the you that’s in you thats thinking.
WIP command squad for Huron. I wanted a pure CSM squad. I did a couple headswaps.
>>98072271then the that flesh is weak
>>98072269>they have to throw xenos players a bone every now and then and that was mostly as a result of kill teamnon-answer>have sold well as far as I knownope! You can still get the launch box in most stores>Not that any of that has anything to do with IW, any more whataboutism?not what that word means, unsurprising that a subhuman IWfag can't even bust out the right buzzwords
>>98072262I think gw would have sued the author if they won the ChapterHouse lawsuit if what you said there is true and an understatement.>space marines but with necromancersI’ve noticed necromancers got a big explosion of popularity in the past years.I liked them from w101 but that was a long time ago.Any reasons why?And how long until psykers that are basically trademark nameable necromancers become a thing in 40k if that isn’t there yet?I know Yvraine did some of that to resurrect guilliman and then the shipping memes flowed.
>>98072230Reminder that I still have over 6 dreadnought datasheets with legends so I don't need it.
>>98072278your argument is that IWfags are secondaries, you deflected with a bunch of off topic nonsenseIn my experience I have seen many if not the majority of CSM armies I come across as IW
>>98072287>your argumentnope! More than one anon's calling you a daydreaming faggot right now
>>98072284Sounds like you wouldn’t play the game anyways.
>>98072291Actually I play Eldar so it's all the same with or without it
>>98072290>nonsense again not addressing the point
>>98072297You have no argument beyond >b-b-but they put out one literal who HQ that everybody cried about and one piece of art of my faggot space dad!!!
>>98072296No one plays eldar
>>98072302my argument is that I see IW players all the time and have for yearsyour argument is nothing but cope
>>98072249>”in case of emergency or lack of plot ideas break glass” thing To add to the other examples:I think a story or stories about a loyal space marine chapter of traitor legion geneseed.Not hinted.Outright stated in the book or codex.Is in that glass box. It hasn’t been used yet.And ADB has something to do with it because he is most likely still bruising from being booty blasted that the Blood Ravens were there first. Minus the “subtly hinted” part about them.Also Im not sure if it is just me but when it comes to traitor legion loyal chapters the iron warriors seem to be the popular choice. If my hh knowledge is right they had the biggest number of loyalists because of Perty’s autism moments.But there has to be more.
>>98072309>anecdotal evidence reliable? >one subhuman says: yes!
how will gulliman deal with the accelerating problem of space marine obesity?
I think it’d be neat and worth buying the new codex releases if they printed Legends datasheets in them. Though maybe I’m just huffing copium after hearing Legends units will get added to the app when their codex comes out.
>>98072311looking forward to your tears when the Perty model and codex drop
>>98072312The obesity is a sign of being a death guard spy as they have some pretty thick boys.>that picMy first thought were the mantic dwarfs when i saw that oddly enough.I like them.I know many don’t.I do want them to be archived as stls for when they get retired when better plastics are released.
>>98072323looking forward to your livestreamed suicide when he doesn't get revealed
>>98072330I dont even play IW I play thousand sons and we already have magnus
>>98072329>"It's just a glandular problem, brothers, honest!"
>>98072219kekwhat head is that? Or is it 3d printed?
>>98072364I love joke conversions like that! Especially when painted.Even when they aren’t funny they’re charming.Maybe because the maker had fun and the joys “radiate” off the model to the beholder?
>>98072346Thousand sons are gonna be a discount iw.
>>98072369you are a dumb ape who has no clue about anything, no one should take you seriously
>>98072375>man baby primarch>breedable named characters>focus on demon engineyeah no I think I know more about your factions more than you.
>>98072368
>>98072366Op here I found the head from a Facebook link.Search “inquisitor Doakes” on google and it should be one of the earlier results.Now there are James Doakes stls but most are detailed busts probably the size of those small bionicle figures. The matoran sized ones not the main bionicles before the intentionally big ones.This may mean that resizing the heads down to 28mm scale mini size may not work or maybe printers can pull that stuff off.I’m not sure.>system thinks I’m spamming>even with changing the linkThese guys are good.
>>98072387Lol.What stats should that model have?I have a Thomas the tank engine stl model and now I want a khorne lord of skulls stl remake for some heavy editing.Also maybe a Goliath rock grinder dozer blade looking piece with all the grinders on it to replace the plow.What csm legion colours should this printed autism joke model be or should I use Thomas the tank engine’s colours from the show?Assuming I break free of daydreaming failure stuff.
Due tot he nature of two people in this thread, I just had to find an image of this to share.
>>98072401I like the colour scheme but that brown dirt basing got me feeling unwise.I need to know what specific artist acrylics can mimic those colors as it looks like the old reliable basecoat and drybrush combo.And all that is needed is tufts and depending on tuft colours they can be healthy grasslands or wastelands.That is a flexible shade of brown basing dirt color right there.
>>98072262That's so creatively bankrupt lmao>mike brooks adores itHow so?>>98072283>trademark nameable necromancers become a thing in 40k 40k necromancers?? How would that even work, beyond like nurgle chaos daemons or psykers mind controlling nurgle plauge victims Im a huge fan of elderly bearded man skucling in a catacomb and raising the dead, but I don't know how that could translate well in 40k
>>98072421There's necrons in that one salamanders shorts videos that controlled zombies.
>implyingGW would never leave money on the table. Perty is getting released, as will every living primarch.
>>98072428Oh no, zombies fit 40k fine, several factions can have them, nurgle of course, but actually starving or mad imperials that act like zombies but arent dead , dark eldar black science. Its necromancers specifically I have doubts about. Tome reading wizards in hats and cloaks, grave robbing, raising zombies,skeletons I think needs some work to connect to 40k properly. I wish there was focus on like Lovecraftian socerers and wizards in 40k, and there's room for them but no one writing 40k has ever bothered to bridge that gap.
>>98072421>40k necromancers?? How would that even work, beyond like nurgle chaos daemons or psykers mind controlling nurgle plauge victimsLike this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEC-Q_HCeNg
>>98072262>Oh that sounds interesting, maybe I'll check it out.You almost got me anon. >It doesn't help that it is Mike Brooks's favorite book series and he clearly adores it.Makes a bit more sense.
I want to test out some eldar color schemes, but I feel like guardians (even storm guardians) are a little too basic to really see the effect.Any suggestions for units that I can test some color schemes on?
>Fight Space Marine player>He painted his army as Minotaurs
>so we've got all these new rules to change up the game in the new edition>but also every army detachment bonus is to ignore all these changes>also on top of every unit having a special rule that we refuse to standardise, you can also now buy upgrades for specific units that have no physical representation so you have to not only remember every unit's specific rule, but also which specific units have which special upgrade rules>but also we still refuse to bring points back
Tips to paint more of my army since one model takes me a few hours? Should I do one per day? I have 21 I need to fully paint plus Lhykhis and 5 Howling Banshees.
>Struggling to get right consistency for thinned paints
>>98072421>40k necromancers?? How would that even work
>>9807246221 isn't that many honestly. If you want to speed things up and are ok with a little tedium, you can do some batch painting. Do the basecoat for your entire unit, then the highlight for your entire unit, edge highlights, etc.You can also try speedpainting techniques, if you want. There are lots of great tutorials on youtube. One easy way to get a model like 80% done very quickly is to airbrush on your shadow, then airbrush on your mid tone downwards at a 45 degree angle, then your highlight at a steeper angle, then maybe 1 more highlight at a 90 degree angle. If you combine this with batch painting then you can knock out an army very quickly.There are also other techniques you can use like contrast paints.Also, you do have an airbrush, right? If you don't, get one. It's a big time saver.
>>98072469Not necromancy, but mechs powered by the souls of the dead themselves. Not souls bound to a suit controlled by magic by an external wizard. They still have their personailities they had in life, not necromancer slaves
>>98072470>Do the basecoat for your entire unit, then the highlight for your entire unit, edge highlights, etc.I'm still trying to paint my Iyanden Eldar when I'm not tired from work or doing another thing that's distracting me. It's only a few colors which us:>Iyanden Yellow over armor>Macragge Blue over helmet>Black Legion over Shuriken guns and pipes>Yriel Yellow over the Iyanden>Retributor Armor on the gun oval thingies>Blood Angels Red over the plumes and eyesIf I paint more, does the time to paint become less as well as brush control and thinning paints more consistently?
>>98072468The thing that helped me the most is to look at it on your wet palette. If you thin out your paint, you will notice that it springs back when you spread it out. You want the paint to be as thick as possible while still springing back.You can also check consistency by painting on your hand. You want it to cover your skin in a slightly translucent layer, without pooling, and without covering the detailsAlso make sure you wick away excess moisture on a paper towel after you load your brush.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBDVPoNXyVI
>>98072482Forgot to mention Kantor Blue after Maccragge Blue
>>98072482Yes, as you get better you will be able to paint faster as well. But you have to try to get better. Try getting edge highlights as nice and neat as you can, for example. Or watch a tutorial and follow it.
>>98072485I've seen my palette do that in the middle before, only issue was when I put it on the model, it was a glaze instead of thinned. Though that was probably because I didn't put it on a paper towel. When trying to make my brush have a point, do I do it on the wet palette or a paper towel?
>>98072474>it's only necromancy if it involved controlling slavesYou're thinking of negromancy. Eldar putting the souls of the dead in new bodies is referred to as necromancy in the fluff itself. For example, in The Cripple And The Dragon, involving Vaul fighting the Void-Dragon.
>>98072460Imagine beating his ass and saying "this ain't a ghetto, son"
>>98072462Do one paint per day and do the whole set. Additional time discerns what else you do. Trust me that touch-ups will happen.
>>98072503>NegromancySounds more like a Tau thing but then I remember they got a five toes on a battle suit.
>Black Legion are the Ultramarines of Chaos>But I like Black and Gold>I'll be viewed as a basic bitch if I do it though
This is my chaos knight
>>98072519You won't be viewed as a basic bitch because almost no one plays black legion
>>98072539>almost no one plays black legionWhat do most play Chaos SMs as? Word Bearers?
>>98072499Someone answer me?
>>98072542Night Lords, Iron Warriors, and Word Bearers are the more popular CSM armies, Alpha Legion and Black Legion are the less popular ones. Also, every single space marine original legion is more popular than Black Legion, so you really don't have to worry about being seen as basic.
>>98072499You probably had too much water in your brush and flooded the model. You can make the tip pointier when you wick away the water on your paper towel
>>98072552>I'm actually being told the colors of black and gold isn't popular
>>98072554So don't wick it away on the palette?
>>98072557I don't think it's a colour thing, I think people just like the flavour of the other armies more
>>98072519Eh, who care if they are the Ultramarines, Bkack Legion rocks.
>>98072563true
>>98072485>that tutorial I need to sit down and watch that one day as I plan to get back into painting.Brush strokes made a tutorial on making a wet palette which is good too.I just prefer if a sponge was used or my case Swedish dish cloths.The dish cloth should work the same as a sponge or layers of paper towel.Containers are all over the place but I think the “holy grail” of a airtight diy wet palette would be whatever container the Vallejo wet palette tutorial used:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QMPn5po5-m0Im still not sure if even the best AI chatbot can figure out what storage box was used in that video.It is comically thin. Like who would need a box like that to store what?I remember photograph containers but the ones I saw don’t look airtight though they may be a similar size.
>>98072557black isn't interesting to paint
>>98072401Iron warrior rubrics?
>>98072568Unless you take forever to paint it fancy-like
>Fire Dragons are a must have in every Eldar army as they're the only ones capable of getting rid of big units>NERF THEMWTF?
How was your weekend, chat?
>>98072557>a gcuckHow's it feel liking the objectively worst gundam in existence? Were you born retarded or did you have to work to get this way?
>>98072583Reddit deemed eldar having the ability to shoot their 350 point T3 range 12 unit more than once too Uninteractive™ and intern forgot to adjust their points to compensate. Please understand.
>>98072593>objectively worst gundam in existence>What is Witch from Mercury?>What is Iron Blooded Orphans?>What is Build Divers?>What is SEED Destiny?>What is Victory?
>>98072598i LIKE WITCH FROM mERCURY and i have A FIGURE OF IT
>Vaul>Void Dragon>VashtorrA vexing vagary. Verily, a vocabulary, though unverifiably vacuous or vatic, I must vociferously vocalize if I am to be vindicated as a visionary venturing vigorously into victory.
>>98072598I want to watch some gundam after I watch evangelion and gurren lagann.What’s the best gundam anime?And what gunpla related tools are great for reusing for warhammer minis that are not very well known?
>>98072598Not that guy, I've seen all gundam except Witch because fuck dykeshit and I also think GCuck is the worst gundam ever produced. Completely incoherent nonsense.>>98072606>What’s the best gundam anime?0079 movie trilogy.
>>98072526I bet your favorite girl is Ako, because you clearly have shit taste.
>>98072598Yes, they're all leagues better than gcucks. Not because they're even approaching good, but because gcucks is that bad.The only positive thing I can say about the show is I liked the haro in a beanie. That's it.
>>98072611>trilogy Thx m8.I gotta finish up my watching of logh.And then ponder how those ship tactics would work in 40k’s imperial navy.They probably would with slight modifications but imperium gotta be inefficient so the imperial navy probably does the same thing as the imperial guard does and throws more brute force until the problem is fixed.
>>98072613Rude
I want /m/ to go and stay go
How do I use Sustained hits?
>>98072519Paint em gold and black instead
>>98072611>0079 movie trilogy.But the he'll never learn how important salt is!
>>98072625Looks like I nailed it. Fucking tourists.
>>98072603kek
>>98072633Fug u
>>98072598Liking G-Witch can be comparable to liking Nemesis. It has it's good concept but by God it sucks.
>>98072598i liked all of these except seed.what army do you play?
What does this decal mean in-universe? I am considering putting it on my redemptor dreadnought.
>>98072643At least GWitch had damn good mobile suits. Gcucks was just a bunch of malformed memberberries.
>>98072462Batch paint in groups of 3 to 5.That way the paints dry by the time you've finished the last.
>>98072664It's a pedo pride flag
>>98072664I assume it has to do with the Mechanicus at least given the cog-like pattern and black/white
If I model my 30k marines a tad taller, would you accept a bunch of chaingun marines to be intercessor proxies with bolt rifles?>4 shots a model when the unit all fires at the same targetThe sergeant would have a servo arm to act as the power fist upgrade.
>>98072664Admech hazard sign
>>98072673No
>>98072673>If I model my 30k marines a tad taller, would you accept a bunch of chaingun marines to be intercessor proxiesYes>with bolt rifles?No. I'm surprised primaris have gatlings on their cars but not handheld
>>98072686If chaos can get it, eventually mariners will cry hard enough to get it too.>it happened with 97% of the 3rd edition chaos codex, just not named the same
>>98072672>>98072676Alright thank you, I'll put it on since it looks pretty cool.
>>98072673I'd accept the 30k tacs with bolters as interecessors no problem. But chaingun being just a bolter is a bit much.
>>98072691>>98072686>>98072679It was a thought. I wanted 60 dudes with chainguns roaming around firing the whole 4 shots a piece.
>>98072673How difficult nowadays is it to proxy primaris predecessor models and Horus heresy stuff with current 40k models?I recommend not using the word that comes after vostroyan as it really angers some anons oddly enough.
>>98072696The torso can be elevated 1-2mm at the midscetion between legs and torso. The neck can do another 1-2mm from the chest piece with something and a filler.That brings it to being just a bit under the eye ro eye height of an intercessor with the MKII marines. Some guys go too far with cork and shit but I'd be content just using a bit of thin card.
>>98072704I wouldn’t worry too much about height related stuff.Just make sure you’re happy with your models and that they’re varnished and they make you feel good when you see them.
>>98072696Firstborn was used in the codex even back in 6th edition, it's nothing new.
>>98072704If you just want to elevate them to not be accused of modeling for advantage or something I'd rather just put a bit of cork on the base than fuck with the proportions.Even if you don't I don't think anyone would care that they're slightly smaller, as long as the base size is up to date. Unless you have some extreme austists in your local meta.
>>98072710but that referring to first founding chapters?
>>98072713Haven't joined or played yet. Just asking whats acceptable before I go buying things.
>>98072710That word was used back then but here it has a weird effect of making some anons unreasonably angry.I’ve seen it before.I blame the Pro primaris trolling on why it does that.Hopefully the types that get set off by the “firstborn” word aren’t here right now.
Primaris are kings.
>>98072710I don't really have a side in the overarching shitflinging but you're being really transparently disingenuous trying to present that as being the same when the context and what it is being used for is completely different
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98072740The monkey’s paw curls and there are no cute waifu dark eldar minis like e way lelith is depicted in fanart.The men are hypocritically very specialized because gw.The monkey’s paw then gets pitied by angry dark eldar fans.
>>98072733>We wuz Kangz
>>98072741>specialized I meant sexualized.Autocorrect got me.
>>980727102nd edition codex ultramarines.>>98072738 is correct, however.
>>98072606>And what gunpla related tools are great for reusing for warhammer minis that are not very well known?Glass file/melamine sponge combination, decal softer/setter, real touch weathering markers, paint markers for shading/trim/detail, liquid masking compound, and likely a few more.
>>98072673Sure, but why do they have to be taller? Nu-MkVI and friends are definitely shorter than Primaris, but it's not a huge difference in reality for true LOS to be relevant. Plus some people already use the SA Russ that lacks the sponsons that make the tank wider, which for them would be more relevant.>>98072696Easy enough for SM/CSM. Unless you want to run Legends for some of these:>Tacticus is easy enough to cover, the main conniption you'll probably run into is aping Phobos or Gravis, or at least being consistent about them; could make some kind of 32 to 4mm base converters for the latter>Legionaries can easily mix and match guns and weapons from the assorted upgrade kits>Contemptor Dreadnoughts use a 60mm base, the same as a Helbrute or Castraferrum Dreadnought>Deredeo and Leviathan Dreadnoughts use the same base size as the Redemptor chassis, just not the same weapons to a T>Saturnine Terminators use a 50mm base that can be used to reliably ape Centurions or Obliterators>Vehicles will be tricky when it comes to matching a vehicle footprint unless you make 1:1 bases or decide if a Kratos is close enough to a Repex (moar liek raped-ex amirite?)>People often use the 30k Land Raider in 40k and Mars/Deimos pattern Rhinos and their derivatives are usable in both games anyway (just no Storm Bolters in 30k)>Few fast attack options have been converted to plastic so far>Mechanicum has a handful, but models like Thallax have no direct counterparts>Solar Auxilia best represents Stormtrooper-heavy armies, most of is usable but their only land transport (Dracosan) in production has no equivalence here at all and lasrifle sections don't come with special weapons>Rapier teams could sit on a magnetized base as a FOB>Only the Aethon really matches the IG Sentinel>Charonite Ogryns as Bullgryns>Imperialis Militia is just your dudes IG, Ruinstorm Daemons are daemons>Custodes and kniggas rely on 30k, only a handful of 40k units are anachronistic over there
>>9807225340k is space fantasy, in fantasy you get ground battles.
>>98072802Redemptor is 90mm and Leviathan/Deredeo are both 80mm, my mistake. But nothing rebasing or some sort of extension can't fix.
So the mechanicum basically have AI psychosis?
How many inquisitorial crusaders can be fitted on a bullgryn’s 40mm bases.At this point just think 28mm guardsmen stuffed on a 40mm base.
>>98072673God forbid a marine in 40k uses an actual boltgun in 2026.
>>98072899Why?
>>98072722It's easy to see why. It's compartimentalizing what used to be all marines into a subcategory to be easily dismissed and forgotten.
>>98072696The problem isn't the models, it's the units. 30k tacticals to intercessors (which shoud still be called tacticals) are a direct proxy. The issue comes with the fact that devastators/hss don't exist in 40k anymore and that primaris don't use the classic ones, so if you want to turn your multimelta devastators into erradicators you run into the problem of how to differentiate between a melta rifle, a meltagun and a multimelta. The truth is that not a single of the primaris +1 guns have a reason to exist.
>>98072824It's still retarded that they are trying to push a dread even bigger than the leviathan as the new standard. There should be two categories, like contemptors/leviathans in 40k, but with castraferrums and redemptors. Then again leviathans have infinitely cooler weaponry that isn't the exact same guns as castraferrums but bigger.
>>98072827no
Did you know you can play the game without objectives? You can just smash armies together and it's the same level of fun, if not moreso.The fun in the game doesn't come from objectives.
>>98072908I found some near inquisitorial crusade stl proxies I like and since they aren’t in the guard codex anymore the next best spot is to proxy them as bullgryns.But it ia better to fit more than two if possible on one 40mm base.The question then is a matter of how awkward it will be to paint them on one 40mm round base.
>>98072905They’re just bolt carbines now.I’m still surprised that there isn’t lore about the fate of the space marine weapons and machine factories on certain forge worlds.You’d think they would be repurposed mostly for say the battle sisters and Cawl pulling more stuff out of his ass to make sure they will work.
>>98072937>it's the same level of fun, if not moreso.It's also very easy to have extremely lopsided games.
>>98072951>They’re just bolt carbines now.That should be the new standard boltgun pattern but they still give it a different name, a different statline and don't give it to the basic space marine squad. There's also "heavy bolt pistols" for whatever fucking reason.
WYSIWIG fundamentally leads to more WAAC than just building whatever and proxying.Which is sweatier, buying a bunch of extra kits to equip your squad of infantry with plasmaguns or saying "I think grenade launchers are cool :)" and declaring that all of your guys have plasmaguns because not taking the best weapon is throwing?
>>98072953The primaris bolt pistols having small magazines always confused me. They should be longer to at least be visible.
>>98072954>saying "I think grenade launchers are cool :)" and declaring that all of your guys have plasmaguns because not taking the best weapon is throwing?This is sweatier because you're thinking in power terms instead of sticking to your aesthetic and narrative choice of using grenade launchers.
Man I’m starting to think slaanesh in general isn’t popular at all.
>>98072959The whole decision of completely changing the shape of the bolt pistol still baffles me. Especially when they had to redesign it again because the original primaris design was so fucking ugly and now it just looks like the classic one but with a tiny mag.
>>98072954I had a stroke reading this idiocy
>>98072959>>98072967If the pistols didn't have small magazines they'd look too close to bolters. It's a way to differenciate them.
>>98072971No?
>>98072971But that wasn’t a problem with the original boltgun and bolt pistol.Are people genuinely retarded to not be able to tell the difference?
>>98072974It would look more like a pistol with an even shorter magazine, but this one is already shorter than normal.
>>98072965sexual deviancy stopped being a joke and started being a threat
>>98072980It's actually the primaris bolt pistol with the longest magazine.
>>98072975Yes and no.Yes because GW went from a couple of consitent bolter patterns to a wide variation of bolt pistols & boltrifles with primaris. I might do a collage comparison of all the different variants of primaris bolt pistols, it's quite insane.But it's mostly a way to make them look more like pistols. Psychologically you want them to be different in look/feel.
>>98072983On top of that the one showed before was only in the IF upgrade sprue iirc?The heavy bolt pistol is pretty much a bolter, if not for the magazine.
Heavy bolt pistol
>>98072985>I might do a collage comparison of all the different variants of primaris bolt pistolsThere's only two. The one from the intercessor kit (ugly) and the one from the infiltrator kit onwards (better, but still a pointless change from the original). Then they pulled heavy bolt pistols from out of their rectums for absolutely no reason and made two designs for them too, the original one from the reivers and the second one from assault intercessors onwards. That last one is the only one that looks like a downscaled boltgun.
>>98072990This is the original heavy bolt pistol. Again, a weapon that has no reason to exist. Yours should be just like the deathwatch boltguns, a more compact boltgun pattern to make it look less retarded when used one handed. But alas, GW is fucking stupid and would rather creat a completely separate weapon with different rules rather than fix the rules for the original gun.
There was no need to change this.
>>98072991There's 4 actually, and not counting small variations within designs.>>98072997I do like other patterns of boltguns, but that's because they tried to be something different, not just godwyn 2: long edition
>>98072673Not primaris, but i use HH mk6 bodies for my red corsairs and its barely noticable.
>>98072990That's literally a normal bolter with shorter mag. >>98072997This. It's perfect.
>>98073008Forgot one, so 5. For now.
>>98072266>kappa wing
>>98073008Top right and left are the exact same design. Bottom right is an absolvor bolt pistol which actually looks and works like a different weapon and I don't mind its inclusion. Could be tweaked to have an actual niche so more units can take it instead of being exclusive to apothecaries and chaplains for whatever reason though. Middle left is the original design for the heavy bolt pistol.
>>98072401lel
>>98073010>its barely noticable.It's by design. The new scale of every non-primaris marine has been consistent since the Deathwatch veterans kit updated the scale. It's primaris who are even bigger because Stormcasts did the same and GW is full of retards.
>>98073015>top right & left are the sameYou noticed that there was 5 designs in the image yet I only said there was 4 different designs, right?I included all primaris bolt pistols I knew. If we include bolt pistols and heavy bolt pistols, then we should also include absolvor bolt pistols, since the point is "they added a lot of variation of bolt pistols".
>>98072927I wouldn't be opposed, but as far as a 'lighter' Dreadnought goes, the Invictus existing as a 'stealth walker' probably dumpsters the idea.
>>98073017nta but I doubt the mk8 DW vets are in the same scale. They are taller, but I doubt it's the same. Would love to be wrong on this, I love that design of mk8 and I'm sad it was confimed to like 4 kits, one of which a rare collectible, one a character, and another a WW exclusive.
Do people like the new battleshock changes>
>>98072927This + they should expand weapon options for leviathans. Culln was cool for his twin assault cannons and claw built heavy bolter.As a young lad I loved seeing the amount of options boxnaught got, and contemptor got close to that, but leviathans got stuck with mostly specific weapons which I think is a bad trend. The new saturnine is even worse as outside of plasma it's mostly new weapon types.Flesh out these new weapons too, that'd be cool, I like particle shredders.
Will "Uppy-Downy" become a official rules term?A: Not set to become a official rules term, "Assendius-Decendius" for high gothic maybe.
>>98072598>Your favourite child soldier is worse than my child soilder
>>98073030>they should expand weapon options for leviathansReally?
>>98072273Ayyyyy I recognize that headswap. I did it myself.
>>98073037As if people don't argue the same thing in 40k every single day
>>98073039Really.Pull up boxnaught options.Pull out contemptor options.
>>98072598IBO is in it's own category of awful far below anything else you're listing.
>>98073022They are. The size change in the new CSM scale is entirely in the legs. The sheens are longer, the boots thicker and the pelvis has te shape of a pelvis now, especially noticeable from the back. Everything from teh waist up is the exact same scale as the old models.
>>98073032Reinventing USRs one edition at a time.
>>98073008Absolver bolt pistol is the best. A real hand cannon.I like to imagine they use the same rounds as heavy bolters.
>>98073062This is how I wysiwyg a master crafted bolt pistol
>more marinefag armour autism
>>98073062If pistol+melee weapon still gave +1 attack there could be a niche for this pistol. You can choose the normal pistol for the extra melee attack or you can choose this one to get a pistol heavy bolter. But with the systems of 10th it just doesn't matter.
>>98073017The termie sizing is the worst part. They're a head taller than the csm termies, plus no option for a melee only build like loyalists have got.Inb4 take mutilators. Fuck mutilators.
With everyone talking marine scale, i think its fair to point out all the EC kits Red Corsair Raiders, and new Raptors are all primaris scale.
>>98073081Maybe they are slowly scaling everything else up so they are all just the same again? We will have to see when they refresh Thousand Sons. I assume Grey Knights are getting the primaris but not calling them primaris treatment this Edition.
>>98073068>not being autistic about your own factionngmi
>>98073084>Maybe they are slowly scaling everything else up so they are all just the same again?They are, because realized finally that primaris proportions just look better on marines.
>>98073076It's a shame but they just fucked up the CSM terminator scale for that particular kit. New terminators in both 30k, DG and some miscelanoeus models like Morne and that WE from WH+ are basically the same size as the new loyalist terminators, as they should be.
>>98073081I actually like the size difference. Terminators are a bit too big
>>98073081>pic shows the raider at the same eye level as the CSM and 30k dudesEC being lanky isn't a second scale change.
>>98073092Terminators should be big.
>>98073016>using outdated citadel label>not using updated warhammer labelIn all seriousness Gw might actually start selling masking tape for a high price.
>>98073081Some 40kg goof will respond saying >yep of course because those are all primaris!the height differential was always nonsense and no modern SM codex ever said a primaris marine is a meter higher in height than any other marine
>>98072253Leaving aside that this setting is definitely NOT meant to be realistic, leaving aside the existence of Battlefleet Gothic, and leaving aside that a big part of the appeal of this setting is its medieval and WW2 inspiration...let's look at the players involved, and their goals.>PlanetsUsually have enough resources to be totally self-sufficient, and can breed new troops, so you can't just blockade them to death. Some planets like Terra rely on imported food of course.>Imperium, VotannWant resources, food, lebensraum. This relies on taking the planet, which relies on landing people on the ground to actually live there, which means wiping all enemies from the planet surface. You could do this with orbital bombardment but then you've got a Death World instead of an inhabitable planet.>EldarWant to get soulstones back, or reclaim Eldar worlds, or just not die.>ChaosThey're after the same things as the Imperium, but in many cases, they're also specifically after the people and their souls and emotions. Nurgle or Khorne would much more enjoy a protracted hundred years long campaign on the planet surface, than they would cutting off supply lines for a week.>OrksFighting in person is their entire raison d'etre.>NecronsOften they just woke up under the planet's surface.>TyranidsSee Imperium. Being mindless animals directed by a more intelligent hive mind, they may also lack the know-how to carry out a planetary blockade when they could just satisfy their hunger and evolve themselves in combat on each world.>TauSee Imperium. They are the most likely to blockade a world, on the flipside though they lack warp drives so should actually prefer being on the ground.It's the same reason why America can't win wars in Afghanistan or Iran or Vietnam just by carpet bombing the place from the sky; insurgencies go underground. In order to win wars, you need boots in the ground.
>>98072606>What’s the best gundam animeif you dont want to go into the og stuff, wing has some pretty memorable moments>>98072643witch would have been fine if it didnt fumble the last half so bad
>>98073099Primarisfags always pretend the size of the old marine models was accurate to how they were supposed to be to justify their pointless existance. Turns out you can fix the scale without changing every single visual design and how the entire army works.
Take me back
>>98072276GW really need to lean more into the subtle Scottish vibes of the Iron Hands, it would make them more interesting.More claymore swords. Tartan somewhere. Bagpipes sonic weapon. Caber toss rocket. Shit like that
>>98073107I wonder if those vouchers are still valid, do they have a cutoff date?
>>98072253Ground battles are a matter of territory, mostly, making them long and making stalemates a possibility. Space battles are very quick and binary. You either control the orbital space of the planet or not. It's the same thing as air control in modern warfare. You either control your airspace or not. There's no prolongued capture of territory.
>>98073107you can't go back for that place no longer exists...
>>98073110no wait I can't read apparently
>>98073113Haha sadly they were only usable on those specific days for a new store opening. I only ever got to attend one of these when i was a lad and i could only afford one blister but i remmember seeing people walking out with shopping bags of stuff.
>>98073081Given that the KT Legionaries box was rebranded back into a generic 40k one, which would imply its next edition in 2027 may not have a basic CSM team if it actually gets rotated out, I wonder if they plan on doing just that to fill the void again.
>>98073107its crazy how shitty GW has gotten even in the smallest of ways. Years ago when I'd make an order from GW (I know, I know), they'd throw in all sorts of free shit, like buttons, flyers and brochures, wrist bands, catalogs, even got an age of sigmar themed journal book. Now, nothing. I don't even get the fucking receipt in my orders lol.
>>98073124Shopping in the store in the late 90's early 2000 they would throw in free glue, paint and brushes. It was the beat of times, it was the blurst of times.
>>98073098>not using updated warhammer labelMy bad, here you go.
>>98073124Been in here for 15 years already and I never got free shit with any order. I once got a free measuring tape for my birthday from the local Warhammer store manage but it was something he did on his own.
I wish the Sagitaur back door was hinged better so you could leave it unglued, like Rhino doors
When would we expect the updated new SM codex bros?
>>98073140and I wish the wheels would roll, so I could play with it more.
>>98073146a month or two
>>98073152I will learn what purchases I have planned will go down the drain.>and the box limitations
>>98073103https://youtu.be/HmQnEyiGdGQ?si=Y1p9n2hqSp0fc7OfNeat
>>98073099>and no modern SM codex ever said a primaris marine is a meter higher in height than any other marineBecause other marines no longer exist.Primaris are the default now, so no point in mentioning it.It's like saying "we are surrounded by Air" every few hours, like no shit, it's everywhere and everyone knows it.
>>98073092Thoughts on saturnine?
>>98073175optimal mutilators and obliterators
>>98073122My dream is they give us a heavy CSM kit using the not-mk8 havocs wear.It could be a unit of breachers with shield and bolter, or melee and shield.
>>98073096It's still the same marine inside, it should look big because of its "neckless" silouhette.>>98073175I very much like "Heavy Terminators" and I wish they were in 40k. Give orks something similar.
>>98073190>buy legionaries>buy havocs>swap weaponsWould that work?
>>98073191>It's still the same marine inside, it should look big because of its "neckless" silouhette.It's the same deal as stacraft marines. The limbs are extended. Basically every description of marines in terminator armour says it makes them noticeably bigger.
>>98073196>it makes them noticeably biggerBECAUSE OF THE NECKLESS SILHOUETTE
>>98073175I think they are much better take on the walking heavy weapon platform marines than both gravis and centurions and I wish they replaced both of them in 40k.
>>98073198The neckless silhouette doesn't make your eye level higher which is something that terminator armour has always done in both models, art and text.
>>98073124I like orks :D
>>98073175the anatomy doesn't work unless the saturnine head isn't a real helmet
>>98073194Easy enough but i hate csm chosen and i want that unit forgotten about and replaced by an official kit.Besides they havent made breachers for loyalists ( in 40k), so they could make it a chaos thing.
>>98072310>But there has to be moreWell there are Sons of the Phoenix who look and kind of behave like Emperors Children. Both Exorcists and Covenant of fire scream "We are Lorgars Kids". There are propably more.
>>98073201>always donewrong
DONT POST THE SEXY FUCKING MONKEY I LEFT /V/ SO I WOULDNT HAVE TO LUST OVER THESE BALLOON ASSESS YOU FUCKING FUCK!
>>98073208covenant is on the prometean flame koolaid but the sources ommit if they become onyx with nocturne's radiation or not so there is plausible denialability (but could also just be chimeric)
>>98073207What's wrong with chosen? Other than 10th's rules being shit and forcing a schizo loadout.
>>98073109>sonic weapon.>For the IHWhy would you say that?
>>98073109>subtle Scottish vibesthe one and only reason they're divided in clans is because it sounds like clank it doesn't go deeper than that
>>98073208Do NOT the monkey.
>>98073218Chosen are 3wounds and fit inside a rhino with a lord. Gets stuff like bile's +2" movement so if you disembark, move+advance and assault(CP cost:1) you can go (disembark)3"+8"+D6"+charge in one turn with chosen. Or you move and advance with rhino and do that the next turn.
>>98073175I thought these were ultramarines until I looked closer and saw the spikes. Needs more lightning on the armor as well as blood stains
Sons of the medusa are cooler than the iron hands and more correct in their ideology.
I wonder what a kit painted entirely by markers would look like compared to a traditional brush.
>>98073230Iron hands being emotionally malformed and "wrong" is part of their appeal Redditor.
>>98073196The problem with raised shoes is that you can't move the articulations. So no>>98073198Use NTA if you're gonna sperg in my reply chain
>>98073231past marker user here, its just contrast paints with bad volume controll and most tips are not thin enough for details and closed off spaces (if you don't paint in sub assemblies)
finally opened that custodes box i bought a month agofirst time painting a female head so i tried to push the smoothness of my skin gradients and eyeshadow a bit harder than i do with male heads
>>98073252gj
>>98072230Yes I do, and I still regularly play editions that use it
>>98073252Nice blood angels head, anon!
>>98073242> emotionally malformed and "wrong" This could unironically be applied to any Space Marine chapter
>>98073258> I still regularly play editions that use itThen you dont want it! Its simple anon, you've found a edition you like.
>>98073230I think you need both. The schism is part of what makes the SoM cool.
>>98073228So what's bad about that?
>>98073261Bullshit. Nobody is accusing the smurfs or salamanders of being mentally ill. Their mentality is as capeshit as it gets. I don't want that, because I remember what space marines are supposed to be: cold unfeeling mutants who are loyal to psychopathy
>>98073288>smurfs.Smurfs were aloof elitist assholes before Gman arrived, and followed the codex religiously. Gman returned and called them mentally ill, then they got depressed.>Salamandersnot sure what their mental illness is desu you got me
>>98073252Looks good. I think you don't need to go further than that with the face. Putting too much detail can make it look bad.At best adding some dept to the hair would be nice.
Hellblaster status?
>>98073305primed and collecting dust for almost a year now
>>98073300>not sure what their mental illness is desu you got meWell i guess Pyromania. Granted everone else araund them is either religious nutter, esoteric nutter, Space Book nutter, or just an asshole. They are well adjusted.
>>98073305Hopefully squatted.
>>98073288>>98073300Sallies have the worst mental illness of all: terminal redditism
>>98073305I decided I wanted to paint them as Space Wolves, so I’m stripping the paint off with nail polish remover.
>>98073300>>Salamanders>not sure what their mental illness is desu you got meThey don't really have any.
>>98073285I was arguing against the "bad" comment.
>>98073320Hellblasters needs apothecaries to be meta.Space wolves cant use apothecaries.
>>98073288>Nobody is accusing the smurfs or salamanders of being mentally ill. Their mentality is as capeshit as it gets. I don't want thatSo then pick any of the other dozens of marine chapters then? Like Minotaurs, Marines Malevolent, Iron Hands and Mortifactors are right there.It's incredibly funny to me that people constantly whinge "marines arr rook and act the same">GW makes chapters who do act differently (salamanders, white scars, raptors)"No, not like that." say the people
>>98073223Because it's a Scotsman joke and once upon a time marines in 40k had a bit more humour to them. I would like to see a bit of that come back.>>98073225GW are britbongs so it makes perfect sense they'd shoehorn the Scots in somewhere, they just never finished the job.The Iron Hands are said to have recruited from Old Albia
>head to lgs before I head to work as I have time to kill>I always take some books with me to read, as work does not always have work for me and i'm not sitting around bored (still get paid tho)>take my necrons 3rd ed codex with me as I got it last night>mention how I got it last night>"you're only like 8 editions late">edition number doesn't mean a better game>"well good luck trying to find anyone to play it with you">yeah....my friend next weekend>"except him">my other friend on some tuesdays if we organize itgod forbid I prefer something old, I didn't ask for a condecending toneare modern 40k fans always like this?
Post models / what you're working on, /40kg/
So I'm guessing the files will never be updated with anything new because I've been in here every so often asking for imperial knights codex and it hasn't been added since it released back in September
>>98073339and then james stood up and clapped
>>98073303my usual recipe for blonde hair is flayed ones flesh > thin sepia wash > flayed ones flesh highlights > wraithbone highlightsi guess i can go harder on the wash in future
>>98073341Still some details I need to add, but the overall paint scheme is done, turned out pretty neat IMO. Thanks to the anon who suggested the knee panel be white; it works nicely.
>>98073252How do you paint eyes? I gave up on it a while ago
>>98072633NTA but I would 100% proxy it for a Chaos Knight in a 1kSons army if I couldThe problem is that they probably don't ship to the US and I have to pay 3x the price from a scalper
Stop shitposting and go work on your minis
>>98073346ain't lying but there's no real way to prove it other than this pic given I mentioned the codex
>>98073352I like the white panel with the ultra symbol
>>98073339They can be condescending.I have autism and might be retarded because I use this site and general and one of my fears is coming across as autistic and condescending.And guard players at the lgs don’t have a good reputation.
>>98073358post feet pics with them you coward
>>98073358you being the same guy trying to make a fucking parade out of buying this off ebay (and now begging for attention again) does NOT help your case bwo
>>98073300>Gman returned and called them mentally ill, then they got depressed.based
>>98073365holy yuckola
>>98073375>nooo you can't be happy you bought something!didn't see you complaining about everyone else posting their things like the anon who posted the painted terrain he got the other day>>98073365the time has passed anon, I should've thought to do that or add a piece of paper with "the seller left a note!" and something funny written on it
>>98073365this guy is inspired by the keltec butt poster from /k/ that looks a little like chris-chan
>>98073378You can be, the way you went about it outs you as someone in desperate need of attention, so does that goofy fucking fake ass r9k story you just made up.
>>98073385nah, I got rained on my parade by a nu-40k fag and it made me unhappy
>>98072482
>>98073365Why are you so hairless?
>>98073333Anon read the thread chain. I'm explaining why I like the iron hands >>98073335Sure sure but you do realize the only other users of sonic weaponry are the IH's arch enemies and they just got out of a Slaaneshi infestation
>>98073412Iron Hands are shit.
>>98073378its never too late, especially if you’re going to keep posting your ebay find with nomodels next to them. >>98073406I don’t like body hair, so I shave.
>>98073414Nu
>>98073353i load up my wet palette with>pure black>pure white >skin tone i then mix a little skin tone into my black and white so they're tinted with the skin tone. i then take the black and paint it over the eye sockets, cleaning up overspill with the skin tone. using my smallest brush with the finest tip i take the white and do two dots on the left and right side of each eye while still staying within the black area. this takes practice and brush control i then wash the eye sockets with a thin red wash tinting the black and white is important because it helps the eyes look more natural and not look like they're bulging out of the head these are the brushes i use for this
>>98073418have this immortal I posted the other day as a consolation, I have models just I want to finish them all firstmy core is done (minus bases) which is a necron lord+2x 10 warriors, as well as 10 flayed onesI have 10 (9) immortals, 3 wraiths, 3 scarabs and a monolith to go, I need to get 2 new immortals because two of them are broken beyond repair (for my skills)
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>>98073352>the anon who suggested the knee panel be whiteHa! That was me! It looks awesome dude, great work
>>98073432very well, I am satisfied. I will no longer post feet in reply to your codex posts.
>>98072557It's a cool color scheme in most instances, it's just the Black Legion is bland.
>>98073196I love the Cataphractii armor so much.
Should I buy a 10th ed starter box for around $100 before they become unobtainum?
>>98073358My daughter got the same one from me last summer, together with warriors box, she loves Necrons.
are these dollar store brushes usable for miniature painting?
>>98073081>primaris scale with no lore explaining itBased
>>98073498Does the box contain anything you want?
>>98073508yes, especially starting out. but when you become frustrated by how shit they are, get some better ones in the 10 dollar range. and when those frustrate you because of how shit they are get some actual good ones (because after painting a few dozens of minis you will acquire some skill to be actually able to use better brushes).Also practice good brush maintenance on the cheap ones so you have the skills when you get the better ones.
>>98073528saar this is highest quality slop saar please doing me the follow on X: The Everything App(tm) saar
>>98073528I think the monkey face fits. Certainly stands out from the other models, which Cain should.
>>98073528KekGive Cain an escort of ratlings
>>98073528Am I the only one who thinks he doesnt look like an ape but more like a scotsman? those sideburns though.
>>98073521it's almost like the entire primaris debacle was completely pointless
>>98073566Primaris are cool, that's good enough reason.
i want to believe that Skulls will give us at least a tease of deldar refresh
Leaks>Initial conflict of 11th is, naturally, Space Marines and Imperial Guard vs Orks on Armageddon. Armageddon is being designated as a 'New Cadia' with Orks instead of Chaos. Other Imperial forces are there, just not very notablr. Early edition narrative ends with the Orks pushing the Imperium off the planet, will be revisited late in the edition with the Steel Legion wave as they retake Armageddon.>Second major narrative is the Iron Conquest: Perturabo and the Iron Warriors take several worlds from other Chaos Legions and Warbands to set up a staging area for his march against Terra. Marines, AdMech, and Eldar try to stop him. Eldar are almost immediately taken out of the fight while AdMech barely hold on long enough for the Imperial Fists and White Scars to arrive and bring a stalemate. The Fists' presence in particular makes Perturabo paranoid of Dorn being alive and present to coordinate the defense, throwing his tactics off balance and leading to his plans bejng thwarted by White Scars tactics>Sisters of Battle and Salamanders will launch a campaign to retake Oghram from the Tyranids, GSC are also involved.>Ultramarines and Dark Angels meet in Ultramar, all four dedicated Daemon Primarchs arrive to siege the 500 Worlds for Warzone: Ultramar as the end of edition narrative. Russ will return and lead the Space Wolves to aid his brothers.
>>98073644>>Ultramarines and Dark Angels meet in Ultramar, all four dedicated Daemon Primarchs arrive to siege the 500 Worlds for Warzone: Ultramar as the end of edition narrative. Russ will return and lead the Space Wolves to aid his brothers.It's so bad, please let it be real
