Do we know for sure that the Astronomicon is the Emperor's doing? Maybe it's just something that the Golden Throne does by itself when you feed it 1000 souls a day and the Emperor is just dead-dead.
>>98073708Probably for the best that some things are never explored in detail as they’ll ruin the mystery that takes away the appealing things about this universe.
>>98073708Darco seems legit but unplug the emp and find out.
>>98073708I awlays thought the Emperor powering the Astronomicon was cope and seethe because hes just fucking dead and no a super human soul binding psykers or answering prayers. He's just dead
>>98073708The Golden Throne is not the source of the Astronomican, as the Astronomican was lit before the Golden Throne was complete. During the Great Crusade, the Astronomican was powered by the Emperor alone, without the Golden Throne.The Golden Throne does amplify the powers of the psyker sitting on it, and it is part of the system currently keeping the beacon lit (one that requires the assistance of 10000 psykers, 100 of whom die every day (presumably the average duration of a psyker's service in the astronomican-powering telepathic choir is a bit over three months). But the fact that the beacon was functioning before the Golden Throne was even set up means that the Golden Throne itself is not its source.Actually, any telepath could project a beacon into the Warp if they learn the technique (see Into the Storm page 193), though an ordinary psyker's beacon would only be visible a few light-years away, while the Astronomican is visible in most of the galaxy (though, because Holy Terra is closer to the edge than to the centre of the galaxy, a substantial portion of the galactic East is beyond the Emperor's light).Though the Golden Throne does help the Emperor project the Astronomican now, the Astronomican was not the original purpose to which the Emperor intended the device. Instead, it is meant to hold back the Warp from an artificial rift created as part of the Emperor's attempt to build a new Webway gate, as the Emperor intended Humanity to use the Webway to travel to other planets rather than continue to use the dangerous and unreliable Astronomican. The wards on the new Webway tunnel were critically damaged by Magnus the Red when he attempted to communicate with the Emperor through astral projection early on in the Heresy. The damage is still unrepaired, and part of the reason the Throne must be constantly occupied is that Terra would be overrun by daemons if the psychic barrier projected by the Throne were ever turned off.
>>98074003That was before the HH novel series and le epic Dark King though.
>>98074024Very good post anon.
>>98073708It makes me laugh because its the same exact thing as a guy screaming into an array of megaphones in the deep woods so hikers can orient themselves based on the noise and not get lost. The emperor can just scream louder than everyone else by entire orders of magnitude.>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>98074024Wait, did the Golden Throne not exist before Magnus interfered with the Webway Project? I always assumed it was part of it, and possibly the means by which the Emperor opened a connection into the Webway.
>>98073794Can you losers stop doing this? Lore discussion has been utterly killed due to this mentality
>>98073794If a setting falls apart this much due to some mystery being shown then maybe it’s not a good setting
>>98074329I hate this now, it’s either >Heres the agreed upon fanon theory >nah we LIKE MYSTERY WE PREFER OUR LORE IN OUR HEADit’s all knee jerk reactions
>>98074329Well, unfortunately GW showed that they can only make things less cool by explaining them over the course of 400 novels or whatever.This >>98074024 is as detailed as lore should ever be.
>>98074373That lore is literally from the heresy books especially the whole Magnus section
>>98074373…so you like GW then? That’s a mix of rogue trader and Horus heresy reveals
>>98074373>GW wouldn’t explain it properly >Agrees to GW made revealing lore Are we really larping as grogs now fellas?
>>98074409>>98074400>>98074384Doesn’t count stop acting like it’s a gotcha
>>98074409Yes, so much posers talk about hating nu 40k to look like cool chuds but only do it for acceptance
>>98073708I think emperor being proper dead and the corpse (or even only the idea of the emperor) just serving as a focus for all the psykers would make sense as a story element I think most modern lore point to the fact that there is something in there. Though that raises the question if the emperor is alive what are the psykers for, he can only partially contribute to it in his current state? Also what does he think about it. He was always an asshole so maybe he doesn't care but still. He seems to be able to communicate to an extent, but it pretty much never comes up or amount to much of anything.Like you'd think that since he has some awareness he'd want to figure a way out.
>>98074384>>98074400>>98074409He hardly wrote a fucking book about it in one post, nigger.
>>98074212https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLx3JlDe7J0
>>98073708How's your latest painted model? Care to show it?
>>98073708No that's a viable possibility, the Emperor may be fully dead, John Blanche thinks he's been chopped up in vials like Akira, or he might be clinging onto his body or maybe something else
>>98074024>see Into the Storm page 193BL isn't even canon on the same page of the same book retard
>>98073708No time to chat, vital infrastructure to maintain, and 0101011100010010111 is loading the tubed heretics backward again.
>>98073794This applies to like 99% of 30K as well. Every single appearance of the Emperor or the primarchs has just made them less cool.
>>98074003That was always my take, they just keep feeding it psykers because that’s what the last guys did
>>98074526>if the emperor is alive what are the psykers forThe psykers are to feed the Emperor and keep him alive
>>98074323The Golden Throne did exist before Magnus fucked up the Webway project, and in fact the Webway project couldn't even get started without the Golden Throne being operational. The Webway consists of physical tunnels built out of suitably Warp-resistant matrrials inside the Warp: to build a new portal, the Emperor had to precipitate a hole in reality directly into the Warp. Under normal circumstances, this is an extremely bad idea: he used the Golden Throne to hold back the daemons so that construction could begin on the walls of the tunnel, which were warded as well as human technology would allow.What Magnus's folly did was break the psychic barrier around the human-built section of the Webway. Once this happened, the Emperor could not leave the Golden Throne, not even to fight the Horus Heresy, because someone had to continue powering the Throne to hold back the daemons pouring in (and lots managed to get in anyway, and still do: the Adeptus Custodes fights daemons constantly to defend Terra). The psychic defences around the human-constructed Webway are too weak now to be without the Golden Throne constantly projecting its psychic protection field on it at all times. The Emperor left the throne only briefly to board Horus's flagship, and that's only because Malcador the Sigilite (an alpha+ psyker in his own right) sat in his stead. The strain of powering the Throne's psychic field, even for that short time, killer Malcador.The Emperor had the Golden Throne for a long time before Magnus fucked things up, but he wasn't always sitting on it. After that, he had to.
>>98075008>a bookYou have no idea how little it takes for a post to reach a length considered a book nowadays.
>>98077173Okay, I thought there was some detail I missed or new retcons. Thanks anon.>Emperor had to precipitate a hole in reality directly into the Warp. Under normal circumstances, this is an extremely bad idea: he used the Golden Throne to hold back the daemons so that construction could begin on the walls of the tunnel, which were warded as well as human technology would allow.That's rougher than I imagined, and makes sense.>Malcador the Sigilite (an alpha+ psyker in his own right) sat in his stead. I "headcanoned" him as the last Cognoscynth.>The Emperor had the Golden Throne for a long time before Magnus fucked things up, but he wasn't always sitting on it.I like to think the Golden Throne was an Old One artifact that the Emperor found and used to increase his power over the ages.
>>98077173Ironically there already was a Webway portal in the Terran system, specifically on the fucking MOON. Which makes building the Terran webway gate kind of pointless.
>>98081271It's sort of dumb in general if you think too hard about it. Emperor takes huge risks and focuses all his attention, to the detriment of other goals, just to have a webway gate directly on the human home world and then what? Does every other (human settled at least) system, have one? He thought sol happened to be an exception and was wrong about it or did he think that he'll be able to keep expanding the webway in general. Unless you had 100% coverage you'd need some way to travel to systems that don't have an accessible gate anyway, you'd just go to the closest one and use whatever last mile method. Is it that politically important to have one on earth specifically? Well I suppose you'd probably want a direct connection to your seat of power, but maybe it's better to move capital somewhere else and give up on the idea it has to be the homeworld. It's not a nice place anyway.
This whole thread needs to be purged
>>98081548 The one the Emperor built on Earth was built to a grand scale, big enough for a titan to walk through, which was probably the point. The Emperor knew the Webway was inhabited by Eldar; he intended to use his gate to send titans and armies through to purge the Dark Eldar and Harlequins so that humans could permanently control the Webway, not just use it.Even if he knew of the Webway gate on the moon (and he probably didn't), that gate was not big enough to send titans to blow up Commorragh
>>98073708Traditional games?
>>98082119Asking questions about 40k is the traditional game on /tg/, yes
