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The OP Is So Clean Edition

>Most recent banlist update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com
https://www.pdhrec.com

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>TQ
How do you teach threat assessment/removal management to new players?
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Previous: >>98069675
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What are some FUN cards I can add to my cart right now? Unlimited budget.
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>>98075422
I tell them to play 1v1 so they understand how to evaluate different cards
>1 soul sister on board
>1 card that draws when I gain life
>1 that reclaims cards when I gain life
>1 that makes tokens when I gain life
>1 that deals 1 damage when I gain life
>"but I don't want to take 1 damage"
>why didn't you kill the soul sister
>"she's not doing damage"
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>>98075471
I kill the card draw because I assume your deck has redundancy for its main trigger.
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Sorry for the stupid question, but when casting something like Living Death where a bunch of different triggers happen across everyone's boards, they resolves first starting with the caster and then moving in turn order, right?
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Introduced a friend to magic
>Always attacks me or targets me because "that's the job of a best friend"

I mean, I can be a theat because how many tokens and damage I can deal with Caesar, but this mf always goes for me even when there's a bigger obvious threat. Shit's retarded, he's the perfect example of Timmy mindset.

Also hate how he just bought Pantlaza and Elementals that are damn good strong precons out of the box. He also upgraded them and think he's good only because the decks play themselves
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The Goblin artist has spoken
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>>98075511
It all happens simultaneously
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homo elk admitted to posting on /tg/ what is our opinion on the matter
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>>98075527
Never bought a secret lair, never will. Although I almost wanted to get the Dwarf Fortress one but I have a modicum of self control
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>>98075528
Yeah but you have to resolve it in an order right? Like if you have a creature come down that targets another creature, or does that fizzle?
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>>98075511
Active player's triggers go on the stack first and then your opponents triggers go on the stack in turn order. Then all the triggers resolve from top to bottom as they always do.
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>>98075511
They trigger starting with the active player (which would usually be the caster) and then resolve in reverse order.
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>>98075536
all triggers go to the stack at the same time but they resolve "counter-clockwise" meaning the furthest guy from the active player resolves theirs first
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>>98075556
>>98075545
>>98075542
Interesting. So even though you cast the spell, you are at the biggest disadvantage when resolving it in this scenario.
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>>98075527
The people who throw a fucking baby rage that they didn't get some ugly alt-art deck are insufferable. I have NEVER bought a secret lair and I NEVER WILL. If you didn't get one, GOOD. I AM LAUGHING AT YOU.
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>>98075563
Well why are you casting it then
You cast a Living Death because you have a big grave and others don't
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>>98075563
technically yes, but you're probably playing a deck that can fill the graveyard much faster and with stronger creatures than your opponents so it shouldn't matter
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>>98075536
>if you have a creature come down that targets another creature
You pick targets as the triggered ability is put on the stack. If they happen at the same time you can choose their order on the stack. Then other players do the same for their triggered abilities in turn order.
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>>98075563
No, you are at the biggest advantage because it is your turn and your deck is presumably built around getting a lot out of Living Death.
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>>98075563
If you just resolved Living Death you can probably win on the stack by sacing your shit and making new life loss triggers before everyone else's triggers even being to resolve.
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The tribble token meta will overtake the game before 2027.
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>>98075563
not if you build your deck to stock the grave and get a bunch of etb effects off
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My copy of living death just says win the game
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>>98075530
He wears diapers
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>>98075527
Reminder that this guy already got paid upfront and pandering to commie proxyfags doesnt affect his bag
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>>98075621
Wotc might not give him more work though
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>>98075527
I don't care about the deck but now I feel bad for not even trying to get in the line.
The deck is so shit, why do people even want it?
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>>98075623
Funnily enough wotc are commies themselves
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>>98075619
Why is he fat? He's literally rock. How can rock be fat?
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>>98075570
Spend the money on a printer and proxy supplies.

As of this AM, I’m no longer a collector. Selling my bulk and collector cards (keeping my commander decks in tact).

Spending the money on an Epson et-28xx or et-8550. I recommend others do the same.
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>>98075635
He ate a lot of rocks
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Thinking about making a french vanilla deck with Omnath, Locus of Creation as the commander to get rid of a bunch of cards that have been sitting in my binders forever. What are some creatures I should be looking out for? Anyone else do something similar? What else did you play besides creatures? Typical ramp/draw suit?
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>>98075656
Did you pick omnath to compensate for the lack of text on the rest of your creatures?
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>>98075665
I haven't built a 4 color deck, and having a commander that gets me life, ramp and removal fills in a lot of the gaps my probably weak janky did will have.
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>>98075635
Rock can indeed be fat
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>back in the day had a pirate/sea monster themed deck with this fella
>took it apart
>still have most of the cards
Should I rebuild it?
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>>98075527
I think everyone agrees with that? Good thing I got mine tho
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>>98075551
these suck and you should kys
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>>98075779
Apologize to Lavinia.
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>>98075810
no way fag, the only decent one is omnath
Lavinia's regular art is cuter anyway
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>>98075779
Fun fact this card was originally supposed to be Fatal Push
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>>98075870
Makes sense as the art is currently just entirely disconnected from the card's name.
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>>98075821
That's a man
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>>98075876
It's not the only one
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>>98075907
I like those mice.
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>>98075901
You see, if we keep drawing obvious men and calling them women, then the stupid goyim will start to believe that's what women look like.
We don't need to reason them into the brave new world, all we need to do is gaslight and confuse them through media!
In 30 years millennials will be dead and zoomers will be uncs! Soon our beautiful utopia will be born. WE control the schools! WE control the stories and video games! All who defied us will suffer and die!
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>>98075918
Nah I just think they did a bad job with it, maybe they used a male model or self-modelled for it, look at the size of her thumb on the sword for example
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>>98075631
They aren't tho, they pander to trannies because they think it's profitable, while busting unions
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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Thank you, Bill Ferny. I'll always be hooked on you
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>>98075631
Please explain how this for-profit gambling front is communist. I know it's hard as my rod in your mom, but please use complete sentences.
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>>98075958
>uhm, akshually...
Found the true believer.
Everyone can see what you're doing, you pathetic faggot.
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>>98075926
"champagne socialists" is a better description
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>>98075422
Based OP. This is the thread.
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What proxy services can I trust to give me good visual quality?
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>>98075958
Communism is always a grift, duh.
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>>98075527
Unbased because this isn't a political opinion.
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>>98075530
I don't remotely believe that
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I like that the F4 cards feature art that shows each of them dunking on Doctor Doom. It's a nice touch.
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>>98075870
Fatal Push is my favorite card from alpha
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>Marvel cards coming to arena
No more omen path proxies for ye
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>>98076076
I hope they get alternative are though. I don't like some of them.
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>>98075926
It is almost like their shit isn't about political identity but money. Can't be....
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So with this commander, all I need to do to win is draw my entire deck?
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>>98076129
Will Cool but Rude go up in price?
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>>98075629
It has alternate art and some of the reprints are really nice. People like goblins.
>>98075619
He's a giant, and a lot of boulders are round anon.
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>>98075631
>commies
They're retards run by even dumber suits who don't even know what a card game is except that it shits out a % return.
>>98075926
>>98075974
>>98076093
The art leads/writers are liberals. This makes sense since they're in Seattle and young, liberal types are the ones most likely to not only apply but get hired for shit pay at WoTC.
The truth is their pandering DOES make them money, because pro-LGBT types tend to have disposable income whereas chuds that reee at it tend to buy printers and not buy.
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>>98076129
On second thought this plan actually wouldn't work since the discard trigger reads "...one or more lands..." meaning if you discarded your entire deck at the cleanup step you would still only burn for 2...

Is there any infinite repeatable looting effects I can use to win the game with Doom?
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>>98076037
I've used MPC before and it's fine
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>>98075527
The prices for these are already falling, these numbers aren't actually selling, they're down to like 350$ already and nobody even has them yet.
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Hey, recently pulled a foil future sight oracle from mb2 and been meaning to make any commander with blue in it, but unsure if I should make a mill deck, drawing out deck or control deck/pillowfort, could be mono colored or dual/multicolored commander i dont mind, just want any suggestions on commanders to try out, something for a bracket 3 and maybe bracket 4 max, cant really decide since so many choices
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>>98076129
Do an artifact recursion loop with one of the 9+ artifact lands that exist in those colors.
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>>98073834
Here's a fun (for me) cheap Brago list I've played a bunch of times. Unfortunately for Brago he's just not as good as Abdel or Yorion in current year MTG.
https://moxfield.com/decks/_JWEBzsSrU-6wgCY36U8wA
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Thematically it makes sense but mechanically death touch and wither shouldn't be in the same color. TRUTH NUKE.
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>>98076459
They should put Deathtouch and Trample on the same card.
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>>98076469
How much better would Gitrog be with deathtouch imo
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>>98076316
Whatever you say. You aren't any different
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>>98076182
It's already like 7 dollars because it's a key card in a standard deck.
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>>98076129
>Captain Kirk can beat up Doctor Doom
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>>98076483
kirk strong
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>>98075635
It's called bloatmaxxing and it's a legitimate strategy.
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>>98075527
WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE INVESTARDS AND CORPOFAGS?!
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>>98075527
Imagine seeing this and thinking this guy is anything but based.
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>>98076129
>this precon is preordering at 100
God fucking damn it
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>>98076518
Prices of everything have been insane since at least Covid.
I keep looking up cards that used to be dollar rares, or uncommons all of my friends had multiple copies of and they're $30 and $10 respectively. Uncs will know.
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>Join a table of 2.
>They have another coming, they're just waiting.
>Start shooting the shit
>Talk about double and tripling sleeving deck
>Guy says the only deck he has tripled sleeved is his CEDH deck. Says is Rog'sai. (which I chuckle at because this thread has rotten my brain.)
>We agree to play lower power decks when the 4th arrives
>Get into the game
>Guy who said he has a CEDH deck casts a spell on his creature and declares attack
>Tell him I actually will have a reaction before he goes to combat
>He tells me combat has already started, I can't.
>Tell him I can, since we never actually passed prio
>He doesn't even know what prio is.
I wish I was making this up. He even showed me his CEDH deck.
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>>98076529
The T'challa deck is like 50
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>>98076548
Black people don't play magic. What's your point?
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>>98075422
>tq
The best way is to draft in my opinion, because they learn real fast just what's a problem.
Or they don't, and they get angry.
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>>98076562
>meme post
filtered
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>>98076565
draft is too expensive.
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>>98076565
the authentic draft problem is a 2/2 flyer that lands turn 2 and then every single thing you cast gets blasted away.
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>>98076531
>"in that case, I hold priority"
>then I pull out my knife
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>>98076320
Azami/Temple Bell/any T:Draw a Card artifact, creature, or land + Mind Over Matter
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>>98076472
What is the lore reason for Jenova being saddled?
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>>98075551
>Drana but not Linvala
This is bullshit
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>>98076562
But I do
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>>98076631
Did you vote for biden? You ain't black if you didn't.

Magic the Gathering.
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>cast pic rel
>ask each player if they are paying 2
>be annoying, but not oppressive
>
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>>98076531
How in the fuck does anyone triple sleeve a deck and WHY? I double sleeve my decks with Dragonshield perfect fit sleeves and Dragonshield matte sleeves and sometimes can barely get them inside. Do they use the same inner sleeves or the same? Is there larger outer sleeves I don't know about? I'm wondering the process here.
Probably feels like banging your wife with a condom.
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>>98076652
>Rhystic Study and Mana Barbs
Whenever a player taps a land for mana, that player draws a card.
Whenever a player casts a spell, you may that player pay 1, if you dont, that player takes 1 damage
>grottenscrotum’s school for aspiring goblin scholars had no equal
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>>98076573
Just make a cube with chaff.
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>>98076652
I voted for Independent
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>>98076751
Actually based, regardless of the policies and ideology of your candidate. More people need to have the will to leave the boomer reservation.
Good on you.
Nigger
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>>98076129
This card SUCKS. 0 flavor. I hope Loki is good.
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>>98076728
>WHY?
When just one card in your deck is 1-2k it starts making sense.
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>>98076728
>Is there larger outer sleeves I don't know about?
Yes. There are special sleeves designed for triple sleeving.
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>>98076751
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>>98075592
>tfw tribbles were given haste, prowess, AND trample for no fucking reason
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>>98076518
Just wait for it to go on sale on Amazon, retard
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>>98076876
Promotions!
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>>98076905
When in stock on Amazon it is around 80.
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>>98076911
Officially, not through resellers putting up speculative preorders
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>>98076922
It is never going to be MSRP, anon.
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>>98076922
>Just compete with the scalper bots!
Lol. Amazon is absolutely bot pozzed when it comes to securing things at MSRP, It was literally easier to find physical chocobo bundles than buy from there.
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>>98075592
I expect tribbles to be shit like that adipose from doctor who were.
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>>98076955
Tribbles will have any "any number of cards named tribbles" and will be some kind of token doubler when X happens.
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>>98076976
Why are the bunnies in the painting looking at him?
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I really like the saga creatures as a design concept, but I don't give a shit about Final Fantasy. I'm trying to figure out a novel commander to fidget spin with them.
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>>98077159
anikthea (make noncreature sagas into zombies (probably requires token support)) or myrkul (turn creature sagas into noncreatures)
or also garnet to keep them around for as long as you can keep swinging.
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>elk shoutouts /tg/ in his podcast
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>>98077304
How to get blacklisted everywhere
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>>98076483
Of course, no phaser required for a nerd in a cape and mask.
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>>98077304
You listen to his podcast?
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>>98077159
I personally use Falco Spara for the summons
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>>98077304
who? what did he say?
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>>98077419
That's actually pretty sweet.
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>>98077304
>>98077479
He was reluctant to say that we mostly give good advice. Which we do. Pic related is good and you should run it.
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>>98077304
>insane homosexual furry groomer uses /tg/
Least surprising revelation of all time
I wonder if he goes to the same furcons as the schizo
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>only had to order 8 cards
Wow thanks for making party a shitty parasitic mechanic with 20 cards across 4 sets Wizards, great design team
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>>98076876
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>>98077523
It's not parasitic at all, what the fuck are you talking about? All those creature types will continue to be printed until the end of time.
It's shit, but not parasitic.
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>>98076715
You devious bastard
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dumb rules question, If I have protection from everything due to something like the Stasis Coffin does Omnaths thirds ability still damage me?
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>98077515
>pds calling others schizo
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>>98077613
Always check your DEBT.
>Damage
Equip/Enchant
Block
Target
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>>98077352
how a creature with first strike feels like
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>>98077509
It's crazy that Starlight is a .50¢ card when basically every white token deck in the world wants it.
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>>98077621
Honestly forgot about DEBT, thanks anon
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>>98077619
>PDS removes thread culture from the OP
>Previous thread link goes missing next thread
>Thread after removes all the proxy and bracket links
Hmm I wonder who the OP vandal is... I guess it has to be the anons putting thread culture in the OP because PDS said so.
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>>98077538
Idk I don't think if you draft zend rising in chaos drafts or such you have a 'decent' chance of forming a full party?
Not every set has each creature type
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>if I keep trying to make others think I'm not pds I'll confuse them and they'll stop calling me pds!

Reminder:

>crying about UB
>crying about proxies
>crying about thread culture
>polposting
>samefagging
>crying about furries or "squirrelfag" or "pedos" other made up "deviants" in the thread
>"NO U!" posting, trying to insult others by using the the insults they use on you ("Actually you're the schizo!")
>bringing up old threads
>being a retarded internet detective that thinks everyone laughing at him is a singular anon
>having sprawling thread long pissbaby melties
>rushing bakes

is what pds does. Any anon you see displaying these behaviors is a literal autistic schizo and no good will come of giving them (You)s. Ignore them and move on.
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>>98077699
I was agreeing with you, you fucking nitwit.
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>>98077523
The bigger problem isn't forming a party, it's that the entire strategy is weak to someone just nuking the cards that do X if you have a party.
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>>98077509
SPIKES SPIKES SPIKES
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>>98077304
Does this mean elk saw elk×trinket mage /edhg/ original fanart?
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>>98077304
Nice troon avatar FAGGOT
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>>98077657
PDS is the culture guy
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>>98077701 was directed at >98077741
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>>98076728
I know a guy who triple sleeves all of his cards: double sleeved in a toploader. He brings like a two foot long box for each of his decks.
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>>98077800
honestly?
based
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Is CEDH johnny B possible or do the free cards make it a nono? or do you just play opponents can't draw cards before swinging
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>>98077304
Imagine being one of his faggot listeners: following his advice, coming here expecting edgy internet humour, and instead finding a diarrhoeic stream of bickering between “shitpenispsychopath” and a furry, or whatever the fuck is going on here
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>>98077633
It seems obnoxious to keep track of how big your creatures are, especially if you have alot of them.
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>>98076129
The art in this set is so fucking lame bros. I don't care if we get kirby doom alt arts because the card design is boring too
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Is there any way to make this guy not shit? I love the name and art but the ability seems lacking
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>>98077817
The whole point is you kill one guy fast and draw a shit ton of gas to survive the next cycle.
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>>98077817
opp doesn't draw if he's dead
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>>98077823
Half the time you won't need to because people will fold when you explain the 10 1/1s you're going to be sending at them are now coming at them for 55 damage total instead of 10.
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>>98077838
true but you have to do 21 damage without double strike (only 11 with double strike but they get to draw 11 before your second hit)
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>>98077823
The sum of the first N positive integers is [N(N+1)]/2
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>>98075422
>Alchemy-locked
Getting real sick of your shit, Wizards
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>>98077855
>Yordle babe is also alchemy locked
IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR
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>>98077861
she smol and cute
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>>98077832
he's really good in pedh, especially combined with the golem thrasher guy
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>>98077844
>t:instant o:"hexproof and indestructible" ci:gw mv=1
what's he gonna do, spot remove you?
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>>98077861
>tfw no shortstack gf
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>>98075527
>Secret lair sells out
LMAO FUCK YOU WOTC HOW DARE YOU NOT PRINT MORE FUCK YOU

>Back to school secret lair doesn't sell out for ages
LMAO FUCK YOU WOTC DEAD GAME DEAD PRODUCTS

They can't win with you people huh
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>>98077905
>le hivemind
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>>98077905
mediocre bait
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>>98077882
no, but they, or other opponents, will probably combo off before you get a chance to kill with commander damage unless you lean heavily into stax
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>>98077817
"I will concede so Benton doesn't draw anything if you two agree the match is a draw if you win."
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>make a dragons approach deck
>keep drawing all the dragons I want to cheat out
Legitimately how do you deal with this? Gotta devote like 35-40 slots to the card itself + all the dragons, which doesn't leave a whole lot of slots after adding creatures/support. The current plan is having all creatures having a loot ability and looting every turn while discarding a Dragons Approach with pic rel as the commander for the card draw engine, then casting one on my turn since 4 will be in my graveyard after the turn cycle.
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Reminder that jund Winter, Teferi's Puzzle Box, or Uba Mask are going to be banned soon.
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>>98077832
Partner him with Fransisco and go for blue black pirates?
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>>98077861
Fuck I hate alchemy cards. So many interesting or potentially fun cards that just will never see print because they're stuck there
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>>98077974
I see, batting 1.0
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>>98077159
Return to Kaldheim (2032) will deliver all the saga creatures you could ask for and more.
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>>98077895
tfw giant gf
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>>98078029
giant slampig
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>>98077861
Is this the first Kithkin we see outside of Lorwyn? Or is she an exchange student from Lorwyn like Lluwen?
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>>98078025
A return to Theros or Kamigawa would also probably bring in Saga creatures.
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>>98078059
talking from experience, its pretty great
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>mail lost another one of my TRACKED letters
FUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKKK THESE NIGGERS OH MY GOD IM OUT LIKE A HUNDRED BUCKS JUST THIS MONTH FROM THEM LOSING MY CARDS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>98078029
Just gotta be pure of heart and spirit and have an encyclopedia of women's given names.
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>>98075821
Damn Jace, he ruined Ravnica!
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>>98078060
kithkin predate lorwyn
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>>98077855
>card works fine in paper
>digital exclusive
why?
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>>98078171
Because its part of the alchemy set that is arena exclusive
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>>98078171
Wish I fucking knew.
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>>98078182
Does becoming a ghost double your cup size? Fucking hell.
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>>98078207
Tithes are stored in the tits. Hence the name.
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>>98078188
God this shit makes me sad.
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>>98078171
It is a mystery
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>>98078244
Pretty much my dream commander. The only other hybrid-tribal I can think of is the 4c Aragorn. I've wanted to make it for like 15 years but no commander would do the idea justice
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>>98077832
Any partner commander can be made to work well
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>>98077912
You fuckers do this all the time. You can't tell me it's not the same people dunking on WoTC for every little thing.

>>98077936
>If you call out our hypocrisy you must be le epic troll
Not everyone who disagrees with you is a troll.
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>>98078260
>Pretty much my dream commander
So make a proxy of it and play it with friends, I get wanting it to be official but you could make a pretty good point that it IS an official WOTC card, just not in paper.
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>>98078282
Nah, the 'tism doesn't allow it. Sounds dumb but it is what it is.
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>>98078282
This. You aren't asking people to deal with something annoying like perpetual, conjure, seek, heist, draft from spellbook, something that would require tracking, or using hidden information. Wotc could print Providence of Night to paper next mystery booster set and no one would bat an eye.
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>>98078246
Idk why like half the creatures in the set were credited to Tedrick, it's like there was an artist shortage when making these.
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>>98078298
most of those are actually doable in paper - heist would be pick three cards from anywhere in the opponent's deck without looking, seek would just have to be public information instead of hidden (basically cascade/discover), conjure/draft's only problem in paper is it creates a real card otherwise it could be done like garth/prepare, intensify could be done using emblem/exp counter type deal, perpetual could be too but it would be absolute ass
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What kind of guy is Muldrotha, the Gravetide into? Asking for a friend.
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>>98078309
yargle
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>>98078309
Complete faggots, I think you're in anon
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>>98076607
Injecting yourself with Jenova's cells and dying because it destroys your body?
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>>98077304
Ew.
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>>98077662
You'd get partial value consistently. There are Wizards in pretty much every single set, Warriors and Clerics are a staple in most sets and you get the occasional rogue every now and then. Of course the tri-colored legendary would get full value from a full party, but other party cards get partial value anyways
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>>98077633
Sounds like an even more annoying version of Cathar's Crusade
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>>98077848
Hey, hey, in english, Poindexter.
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>>98078391
Your monsters are fucking their pussies
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>>98078309
Hoarders, DIY enthusiasts, Slop Bowl connoisseurs.
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>>98078188
Are there any cards on paper that mention the existence of Hybrid mana in their card text?
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what are some other good mana efficient token creators? This thing always cranks out a bunch for me. Chittering Witch and mogg war marshall always reliable as well
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>>98078029
>hand smaller than a goblin
She's hardly giant at all.
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>>98077523
Doesn't 1 changeling fulfill the full party requirements?
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>>98078535
it can fill one of the slots
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>>98078535
Unfortunately no, you may only count one type from one creature. But changeling does help with that.
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>>98078585
Too bad tribal artifacts were nearly a dead concept in 2020 since it'd have been cool for that thing to have been a shapeshifter as well.
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What do we get more Slivers and Eldrazi? You'd think EoE would have given us more, but all we got was 2 cards.
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>>98078724
New Eldrazi arc after the upcoming Bolas arc
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>>98078724
Hopefully after we get some good monks.
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>>98075974
The bad grammar ruins what would otherwise be a pretty funny card
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>>98078724
IIRC MaRo's said that the roadblock to making a Shandalar set is that there are no flavorful mechanics associated with the plane. So if you can just get someone in the WotC offices to pitch MaRo some cool set mechanics that capture the theme, the rest should sort itself out.
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>>98078907
See, this is why hat/theme park planes are actually good. It's bitch easy to cook up pitches for them.
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>>98078963
What about the alternate solution (lunch the board)?
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>>98078980
*lynch goddamnit
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>>98078907
>the roadblock to making a Shandalar set is that there are no flavorful mechanics associated with the plane
I feel like a plane overflowing with mana gives a lot of design space that could differentiate it though.
>Cards having abilities reliant on having unspent mana at the end of your turn.
>World enchantments or land enchantments
>Second spell per turn support
>mana creature tokens that are 1/1s that can be sacrificed for colorless mana.
>General focus on BIG things. High CMC costs for the various card types being a focus.
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Post decks
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>>98078025
If and when there's a new Kaldheim set, I hope it gives more support to interacting with sagas. Playing them, resolving them, doing stuff with lore counters. Maybe having a mechanic like Boast that could add lore counters to an active saga. Or being able to delay their resolution by exiling them for a turn. Maybe find a way to combine them with Foretell so you can time their activation. Idk I just think there's a lot of development that could be done there, in any number of directions.
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>>98079040
Narci has a lot of the right idea imo (cares about saccing enchantments and has a specific saga completion trigger) but I wish there was a dedicated "enchantment aristocrats" type of deck in mardu or orzhov
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What's the most powerful thing you can do with this strange card? Is there some instant or sorcery that has a targeted ping for 1 and also puts a creature from your hand into play or something?
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ban sol ring
ban rhystic study
ban tutors (yes, all of them)
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>>98079008
Nice playmat!
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>>98079086
Ignore the wither part, get creative. Have 3 copies of him then cast your favorite single target spell 4 times. Any cantrip that targets something now draws you 4. Reanimate 4 things at once, etc
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How do I ask my coworker if he plays mtg without giving up I asked because he's absurdly fat?
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>>98079008
Think I'm done tuning this one for now. Feels very high-agency in most bracket 3 pods, and the control element means I can bust the balls of anyone who decides to be an asshole and run a bracket 4 into the table. Last game I did something like 100 damage in a final turn off copied Ancient Cellarspawn into a very lucky Aminatou's Augury.

With how slow it can be on the creature front it could definitely use a couple more board wipes, but for now I'm content. Was very glad to get the foil Beseech to tutor out the Cellarspawn. Inexplicably the store site had it listed at a non-foil price. My store's matchmaking system sucks dick but the store credit payouts don't hurt.
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>>98079086
Blazing Volley and End The Festivities are pretty good (both 1 mana -2/-2 exclusively for your opponents creatures)
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>>98079147
Best bet would be to broach the subject by talking about related things in conversation. That way, if he even considers questioning what spurred your own question, he'll default to "it came up in conversation, so it's fine" and won't think harder
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>>98077832
One of my current brews is him and Ravos esper spirit tribal
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>>98079220
those don't target
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These Universes Beyond promos are getting out of hand
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>>98079086
Feather memes
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>>98079317
Oh... Sorry, I somehow missed that single target clause
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>>98079008
Cool UNGA Deck, I'm in need of one. I'll probably build winota someday
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>>98079358
>Coins for the films but not for the novels
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>>98079473
They already did coins for the novels.
I have them.
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>FUCK blue _______
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>>98079485
Oh nice, I did a quick search before I posted to check but didn't find anything, I guess they're all sold out?
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>>98079539
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>>98079008
Fair Magic
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>>98079564
It was a few years ago now
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UNBAN MY ZESTY ELF YOU WOTC FUCKS!
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>>98079008
I like turning creatures sideways, simple as.
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>>98079008
I have now played this deck 4 times, and all 4 times it caused unholy amounts of seething at my LGS because no one uses interaction.
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>>98079681
Peak edhrecslop
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>>98079690
I am sorry that I'm not playing a shitty jank pile for "muh flavor." I enjoy actually winning.
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>>98079008
Fun/10
>>98079173
Interesting/10
>>98079463
Wholesome/10
>>98079614
Goodstuff/10
>>98079674
Make a few cuts and change to predh for style/10
>>98079681
Kill yourself/10
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>>98079674
I like this deck more every time you post it. Please do not ever cut the Cerodon Yearling.
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>>98079681
>balls deep into bracket 4
>plays garbage tier ramp
for what purpose?
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>>98079713
>EDH player
>Dogshit at deckbuilding
What else is new?
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>>98079713
>>98079738
>deck relies on 3/4cmc spells
>needing ramp
You just need the talismans/signets for color fixing and the hit Yshtola's 4 damage per turn as needed. She doesn't need ramp once you get her online with stuff like Sigil of Sleep, Curiosity (both 1cmc), and Phyresis (2cmc). You literally just sit there and slowly counterspell everyone to death.
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>>98079711
I won't. Cerodon Yearling, Truefire Paladin, Swiftblade Vindicator, Loran of the Third Path, Venerable Warsinger are all-stars.
>+sword
>+damage multipliers
>+extra combat steps
>still able to defend after a lethal swing
Cheap creatures with vigilance are so good in decks like this. Gisela may be 7 mana, but most of the time I don't even win with her attacking. Little guys like this do the job.
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>>98079008
You cannot stop me from playing Eldrazi. They're fun.
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>>98079776
EDHrec/10
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>>98079614
secluded starforge is heavily underrated. won me multiple games by itself because everybody forgets what it does 10 seconds after reading the card.
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>>98079463
>MORE BRAZILIANS
REEE, GO BACK TO PREMODERN!
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>want this card for a deck as a cute wincon
>super fucking expensive
>unresellable with 30 sales in 2 years on cardmarket
>see it at chinese seller
>order it
>cards arrive today
>super hyped to sleeve it up and play this friday
>unpack the cards
>tfw
never ever buy cards without pics
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>>98079866
>willing to buy real cards from chang
>not knowing about the GOAT of japanese mtg HARERUYA
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>>98079946
>HARERUYA
Temporary Suspension of Shipping to Europe, Middle East, and Africa
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>>98079776
Do you play them against other similarly powered decks? Eldrazi vs Eldrazi or Slivers?
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>>98079992
That deck is a 3 (trust me bro only 3GC and follows all the rules), and I play it against other 3s.
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>>98080000
Anon buttmad that his b3 rabbit tribal deck loses to b3 Eldrazi
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>>98080000
please kill yourself
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>>98080109
>3gc
>no early infinite
>doesn't win before t6
What's the problem here?
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>>98079706
>b-but muh spirit of the format
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>>98080149
>people mad about UB
>you win with UW allstar eldrazi
>people still mad
you love to see it
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>>98079706
Bracket 4 is such a joke, theres literally nothing stopping me from showing up with my Stella Lee deck that can win on turn 3 with very high consistenty (its actually a budget deck btw lol) and if someone accuses me of running cEDH id be happy to inform them that Stella has not been meta for years so its fine.
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>>98079799
It's pretty solid, sweet art too. Pumps out dudes and pumps Myrel. Another one is like is Ebony Fly. Those two together can win games out of nowhere, it's pretty funny when it happens.
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>>98080271
Bracket 4 is the most mentally ill bracket. The power gulf between what's expected between a 3 and a 4 is absurd. Easily the worst part of the entire stupid system.
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>>98078907
>>98078963
That's actually a funny problem, isn't it?
As the board gets more accustomed to UB and release schedules become more and more packed, suits are going to be asking questions like "why would we do X theme instead of Y GLOBOBRAND".
Anyone on design still invested in original work has to argue the case for why his idea is as culturally relevant as fucking spiderman and cloudstrife.

It's fucking over. Magic is now Brandslop with the occasional hat set on a slow licensing month to fill the gaps.
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>>98080342
Yep. That's why there should be another bracket between 3 and 4. One that allows all game changers, but isn't as fast or competitive as a real bracket 4. Make it brackets 1-5 and then cEDH. Sometimes you make a deck with a bunch of powerful cards, but it's just not bracket 4 good, and that's ok.
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>>98080391
B4 is a containment bracket for those that want to play with all the power but pinky promise that they will just play battlecruiser regardless
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>>98080468
No it's not. That's the exact problem. People run fucking Thoracle/Consult and CEDH lite shit in bracket 4. Meanwhile if you dare run a blood moon in your mono red deck to slow down the 5c goodstuff player you're expected to be ok with dying turn 1.
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did anyone actually build jin sakai deck or is it just all hype and goldfishing on moxfield
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>>98080271
What is it with you retards and being able to read everything except for a simple fucking infographic?

>hurr durr I win on turn 3 but it's not cEDH
Can you not count to 4? Is that too many turns to keep track of?

>hurr durr Stella is not meta
Wild, I seem to see three new bracket five Stella decks posted TODAY on EDHrec

I guess Bracket 4 is a containment bracket after all, it's just to keep the angle shooting retards out of B3.
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The real problem is we have 5 brackets yet 2 of them aren't real. The alpha preview brackets (4 tiers each with a cumulative banlist) would have been way better.
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I love this big fella like you wouldn't believe.
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>>98080501
>and CEDH lite shit in bracket 4
That's bad bracket 5

>>98080271
>Do thing: (red not!draw)
>Now with built-in payoffs!
So sick of this shit
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>>98079237
I'll do that tomorrow ty anon
>inb4 I sure love this cookie, ah, talking about fatties, I also love mtg!
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>>98080576
>Precon card
>Shit design made for retards
Never heard that one before.
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>>98080557
I like all the evoke boys except for the mythic modern horizons ones. They've done bad things to good people.
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>>98080501
i don't even disagree with you, but just look at the kind of people out there that gavin is trying to make a containment for
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>>98080618
one more
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>>98080149
you know what you're doing, don't be a dense nigger
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>>98080636
meanwhile you don't know what you're doing, don't be surprised there are sharks in the fishpond
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>>98080636
Yes, I do know what I'm doing. That's why I can build a functioning deck within the B3 confines.
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>>98080605
Back in my day, if you wanted card advantage AND a built-in engine in a precon commander, you had to pay over 6 mana.
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>>98077638
Because why would you? You can't equip or enchant without targeting anyways.
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When you get down to it, what even is a Sol Ring?
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>>98080557
I want to play him but he's so narrow
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>>98080725
Guy I was playing against had multiple sol rings and arcane signets. Only caught on because of the different arts lmao.
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>>98080536
>Players expect
I don't give a shit what players expect. The definition of the difference between 4 and 5 is metagame. The difference between 3 and 4 is speed. Therefore a speed difference between 4 turns and 1 turn does not actually make a deck bracket 5 if it was otherwise bracket 4.

I guess you are the one who can't read.
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>>98080732
I already play Silklash Spider which is objectively better and pic related. The future is now old man.
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>>98080557
>ywnb a mass of tentacles meandering down the countryside snacking on birds
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>$150+ card in foil
>mana pool has it listed for non foil price of $35
>order it
>arrives today
>it's non foil
>open a ticket
>instant refund
It was a mostly pokémon seller shop but the package slip clearly says foil too so how do you not notice.
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>>98080536
so we have
>bracket 2 jank and good bracker 2 is too wide
>bracket 3 with random game changers and good bracket 3 is too wide
>bracket 4 just because I have 4 game changers and off-meta cedh is too wide
the only good brackets are 1 and 5 it seems
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>>98080557
I remember putting that fat bastard in my Goreclaw deck to ruin the local Alelafag's night. He did work.
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>>98080809
To trick you into buying it
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>>98080618
>>98080630
7-12 turns is the EDH sweetspot IMO. Turn 7 everyone has had a chance to at least do something, even with a bad hand/draw, and if it goes longer then at least somebody was about to win and got stopped.
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>>98080820
>>98080732
>>98080793
>>98080802
Back in the day, I loved flashing him in and taking out someone's commander. 6/6 flyer commanders were pretty common, so it gave green a nice defensive surprise.
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>>98080789
Well if you're not going to engage with the premise of brackets you might as well fuck off and do without them. At least then you won't come off as an ignorant fuck-wad applying the restrictions you like and ignoring the ones that you don't to try and cheat out wins at easier tables.

Gotta say I'm always impressed how quickly the gig is up with you troglodytes. "haha my budget deck wins me so many games and gets me so much pussy brackets are fucking awful I'm so fucking good" immediately drops to "I don't care about the rules, the game is what I say it is, get good scrub haha".
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Should there be sagas that are artifacts?
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I made a $14 shu yun deck that can kill one person before t8

What bracket am i
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>>98080922
No, that's stupid. "Here is a wonderful story. It's also a robot."
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>>98080871
>up to 3 gcs
>no mld that gavin hates
>limiting infinites and thoracles to turn 7+ (while not gimping voltron and aggro)
This is by far the best implementation i've seen for b3
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Do you think the new Killian is playable as Group Hug?
I really like group hug with decks/concepts that aren't just the typical stuff like Ms. Bumbleflower.
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>>98080937
I just figured that since enchantment and creature supertypes are already covered it's really only artifacts that are left out.
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>>98080952
I don't think Artifacts really fit Sagas, unless it's something like a Saga that flips into an Artifact.
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Yeah man, making your opponents attack each other seems VERY group hug????
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>>98080952
You mean like food and treasures?
"Saga" isn't a supertype
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>>98080952
Maybe if you did it backwards, an artifact that flips into a saga.

"The Cursed Sword

Pay [whatever], flip to "A tale of souls and swords, eternally retold""
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I wish this nigga was legendary
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>>98079866
I got mine on my japan vacation
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>>98080988
Giving out little treats and goodies (enchantments) is group hug :)
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Without looking it up what does collect evidence do?
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>>98081066
exile any number of cards from your grave for their total cmc
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>>98079866
I don't get it
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>>98079674
>the boros spindown
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>>98079708
pity (You)
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>>98080149
Bracket babies make up extra bracket rules when it suits them. Because it isn't about a fair game. It's about being able to exert power over strangers.
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>>98079086
I use it to double up my theft-effects. That's it.
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>>98080271
And there is nothing stopping the table from stopping you.
Dumb fucking post.
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Met a guy with a cedh deck that was worth well over 15k (16.7k, according to him). He brought it at a casual/precon night so he didn't even get to use it, I guess he wanted to show it off. At the end of the evening I saw him driving off in a shitty, busted-up kia. I really hope that he was lying and it was actually fully proxied, because what the fuck. Judging from his demeanor and sweatiness, I wouldn't be surprised if he posts here too. F, if you're reading this, please reassess your priorities man
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>>98078171
Because they hate normal people and want to see us suffer.
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>>98078171
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>>98081293
>don't buy fancy cardboard
>buy brand new depreciating assets like cars and gaming PCs instead
i know what you mean but there's something going in modern life that makes it difficult for a man to own land and get a good wife right now
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>>98081328
Used car prices have shot way up.
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>>98081295
No one on this site is normal
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>>98081293
If he's been playing a while it just adds up. Especially if you got RL shit precovid.
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>>98081293
I'm guessing you're a burger lmao. All you need in a car is to get from point A to point B. Stupid fucking nigger.
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>>98081339
hence the shitty busted-up kia
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>>98081328
the way RAM is going, even DDR-4 is an appreciating asset these days
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I think I hate the card frame. It's not a charming nod to analog horror, it's just ugly and it sucks.
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>>98081362
I like it.
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>buyfags are crying again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w-2gUSus34
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>>98081368
I'm trans btw
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>>98081389
Ok?
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Lightpaws II 1W
Legendary Creature - Fox Adviser
Five Tailed Fox - At the beginning of the game, if Lightpaws II is your commander, you may pick any color identity. Your deck is that color identity. Use this ability only if every non-land card in your deck is an aura.
1X: Search your library for an aura with mana value X and attach it to Lightpaws 2
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>>98081293
I'm struggling to imagine what a 15k deck looks like that isn't just from pimping shit out. Obviously you could find something like that in Vintage but how many cards legal in EDH break 2k for their cheapest printing? Apparently neither Cradle nor Tabernacle have gotten to 2k.
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>>98080950
More like group hate. Unless the people you're playing with are able to behave completely rationally you'll draw tons of spite aggro.
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I'm sad the only chase card from the Marvel set(Mind Stone) is ass. This set is doomed for failure. Oh well.
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>>98081480
Retarded post
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>>98081480
How much confusion will two cards called mind stone that are both 2 drop mana rocks cause
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>>98081480
Mind stone, and the entire Infinity Stone cycle in general, are just pure upgrade mana rocks for mono/dual color decks. Absolutely retarded card design
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>I name Mind Stone
>Mind Stone?
>Yes
>Ok I harness The Mind Stone
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What cards might I have missed that fit well in this deck?
>LARP as Group Hug
>Amass towns
>Suddenly turn all the silly group huggers into 10/10+s
https://moxfield.com/decks/OuoyX580QUWVDp-5yhluvg
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>>98081558
Kek. I had this exact thought a couple days ago.
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>>98081558
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEANT.
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>>98081571
>troon hug
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>>98081580
There's nothing wrong with playing Group Hug as long as you play the archetype right (ensuring that you get the most benefit at the end of the day) and actually have a win condition.
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>Player 3 has a big board that is hard to deal with
>Player 2 and 4 keep complaining they can't getting the card they needs to deal with it and keep saying they are thinking they should probably scoop
>Ask them and they want out of the game
>They say yes.
>Sac everything I have to kill the two other players and then just accept my own death as I couldn't flat out kill the problem player.
>They complain about kingmaking and that I should have just gone for the win.
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Is this card ever good?
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>>98081558
Why do I have a feeling this will cause a situation similar to the Black Luster Soldier situation from Yugioh nearly 20 years ago?
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>>98081856
It used to be. This is unc-tier now.
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>>98081856
>>98081920
If it resolves, this pretty much knocks someone out, right?
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>>98081939
They still have a board also
>target player
In edh? Lmao
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>>98081856
The only deck I might ever consider this in is the new Silverquil deck and it's still very bad there.
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>>98081293
Millennial uncs were picking up what are now $500 cards for $15-$20 when they were in college. This kind of shit can just happen over time.
If I had built out my dream bracket 4 back then, it would probably be approaching $10k in today's prices.
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Is there a way to automatically resolve these? It's taken like 20 minutes to resolve 1 of 7 dopplegangs...
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>>98082072
Meant to post the image
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>>98082075
>>98082075
>>98082075
Things are heating up in the multiverse, discuss in the new thread...
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>>98081920
Go I hate this new millennial slang
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trekkiefags...not like this...



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