I’m just curious about ai and it’s possible usage in ttrpg and wargame rules writing.Any signature evidence of ai being used to write rules?And what ai service is perfect for generating wargame and ttrpg rules?
Spare us your fag and/or 3rd-worlder misery any time
>>98081941At best, AI can be used to do some tedious tasks, and act as an available-at-all-hours sounding board to work out some ideas. As for writing an entire set of cohesive rules that it can self-reference and consistently produce a whole ruleset that actually makes sense and works.Besides, if you don't know enough about wargames or TTRPGs to design your own ruleset, or to identify which ones already exist that may suit your needs, then you're already so far behind the curve that you won't even know how to begin asking the AI to do it for you correctly, and all you're going to get in the end is garbage that you, nor anyone else, will ever play.
>>98081965Is there an anon running around being annoying with ai at the moment.I wouldn’t be surprised if ai is already being used in rule writing. It is already used in essays and apparently there are programs to detect that.I am not sure how it would work for miniature gaming rules though.
>>98081980Nobody discloses if AI was used for text, only if unprocessed illustrations are used in place of art.Because of that, we don't have large enough data set to give a meaningful answer to your main point.I recommend just asking for the outputs, then rewriting it in your own words.
>>98081997It would be funny if it became detected that some popular traditional games really were or are using ai to write rules. Not sure if detection software can notice.But what company or companies would be least surprising at this point?
>>98081980There was one guy who tried it a while ago but I didn't look into the thread to see how it was.
>>98081941What the fuck for? There are already far more sets of rules than anyone can use.
>>98081979>act as an available-at-all-hours sounding boardIt's specifically terrible at this because they're trained to be agreeable. So even ignoring the fact that they cannot experience playing games their feedback will never be reliable.
That pic is not AI Don't connect real images with AI
>>98081941Android 18 is actually a cyborg
>>98082261thats why tg is the best sounding board because when you ask for feedback on tg everyone calls you a fat gay retard and they're normally right
>>98081941I don't see any rust here.
>Any signature evidence of ai being used to write rules?Unless you walk AI through it the rules never make sense, and when they do they aren just reskinned famous games, so no, there's no evidence to set them apart from usual itchio drivel.>>9808194118 does not belong, "android" was bad localization, the correct term is "jinzou ningen", which translates to "artificial human", both her (Lazuli) and her brother Lapis were kidnapped by Gero and modified, she is at best a cyborg, none of her ladybits are metal.>>98084101Also this, 2b is probably softer, yet more firm, than most women.
>>98082261You’re just mad because you’ve never had a billion dollar idea.
>>98081941>>98084101>>98084703What is the purpose of designing a recon/combat android to be so fuckable?
>>98084904I'm not that big on nier lore, but IIRC it had something to do with androids being pleasant to humans (in a bright future where people don't envy robot hotness but revel in it). Also she had to be hot in order for 9S to fall for her every time and not mind being wiped. 9S, her companion unit, is built as an intelligence unit, but it was prone to finding out secrets that could drive him to betraying Yorha, due to his curiosity, so he has to be constantly wiped and have his memory reset. This is akin to dying, so he has to be ok with dying, which he is, because he's made to simp 2b, and 2b is made to be so irresistibly hot that he falls for her despite knowing that doing so is by design and will spell his doom.tl;dr: 2b has to be hot enough so the male robot 9s falls for her is ok with being killed.
>>98081941I've used novelai as a way to bounce ideas around, and while it mostly makes no sense it does help give a baseline to diverge from.Some interesting ideas I have gotten back is that a target ranged attack number be half of the range of the shot, which is deeply flawed as it basically limits range to 20" on d10, and to have a "pushing" mechanic of one guaranteed activation with a unit but you can push your unit to do a second and even third action at the cost of stamina that might not go off based on their discipline.More rough ideas to work on.
>>98085131Okay, that makes sense. Except for the fact that the robots can catch feelings. Why is that in there? Seems like a design flaw, even if Yorha is making it work for them in 9S's case.
>>98085172>make your robots humans>shocked they have human emotions Wooow.
>>98085172Again, don't take me as gospel, as Nier lore goes into particularly deep autism to justify Yoko Taro's (admitedly transparent) preferences but, as far as I remember:The lore goes back to a ps2 game named Drakengard (I didn't play). AFAIK, in one of the bajillion endings (Nier Automata itself has over 20, though most are jokes and not!endings), one of the setting's gods gets pissed at humans and decides to give them an ultimatum: "give up your free will or turn to salt". Humans, crafty as they are, decide to build a system that yanks their souls from their salty demise, sends them to the future, until the curse is gone. They also make a pair of hot redheaded twin robots that oversee a massive cloning facility, responsible for endlessly spawning clones of the people that had their souls sent to the future, so one day, when the curse is gone, these souls can merge with their soulless physical clone's bodies, and mankind can keep going on, soulful, with free will, and not in salt form. There's a catch though, where the souls often materialize before they should, as monsters (at least from the clone's POV), and the protag in nier replicant vows to destroy the evil lord who kidnapped his sister (actually his own soul, who kidnapped his sister's body so her soul could merge with her).I don't remember much about how it connects to Automata but, as far as I remember, in Automata mankind had to fight an alien invasion, by weird little robots, and completely perished. Yorha, the androids, hides that, so their operatives still have the promise of mankind's return to drive the to kill aliens. So, to answer, I guess it has something to do with keeping a human-looking world in case even 1 human turns out to be alive, kind of like meme Absurdism by someone who read Camus's wiki page, where even though they know humans no longer exist, they still have the hope and purpose.Also, Yoko Taro is unapologetically horny and likes suffer-porn too.
>>98085172Because the story isn't actually about robots in the end. It's honestly that simple.
>>98085227>>98085239Sasuga Japan. Thank you, anons, that clears it up enough to satisfy me.
>>98085432I went to check, a few corrections and whatnots:>Humanity goes extinct by the end of nier replicant, with the protag killing his own soul, he destroys the system that binds souls to the world, all the souls perish, and no more clones can be made (they were made from soul data, not genetic data)>clones didn't turn to salt because the curse scanned for souls and they had none>clones eventually die out too, only robots remain>aliens attack after humanity is already dead>androids see the fight as something increasingly futile, without humans being there to give them purpose>one android builds an intrincate lie, saying some humans had managed to escape to the moon, and will return when aliens are wiped>this was made up so androids had a purpose to fight>somewhere along the way they founded Yorha, the android taskforce in a massive space station, dropping to earth to occasionally wipe aliens>another android finds out about the lie, and kills the android that made up the lie, also creating a virus that will, eventually (by the end of nier atuomata), let aliens access a backdoor, wiping yorha, and making it so androids on earth have no way of ever finding out the lie about the humans in the moon>this is so androids can live with purpose on earth as its new inhabitants, seeing the distant (fake) moon humans as an unnachievable religious-like presence>Also, 2b remembers every time she had to wipe 9s, and hates it, but it's one of her burdens to stop 9s from finding out the truth (she herself doesn't seem to know)>they do eventually find out about everything, fight the upper echelons of yorha too, and become android adam and android eve >ironic because the robotic lifeform aliens also had 2 individuals named adam and eve, that you kill mid game>the simple machine lifeform aliens do get a degree of sentience eventually>It's very much like Megaman X or Kikaider or Astro Boy, a Pinnochio retelling through the lens of AI finding humanity within itself
