Breaching the Bastion Edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwh (embed)WM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgeba (embed)WFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6 (embed)Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H (embed)>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/warhammer-the-old-world/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL (embed)>Previous Thread:>>98069258>Thread QuestionWho's your favorite Warhammer Fantasy character and why?
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>>98082453>Breaching the Bastion Edition
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>>98082486kills yourself already, manlet
Reminder not to engage the midget shitposter. Just report him and move on.
>>98082497What the fuck am I looking at
>>98082497>AoStranny terrainSelf own
>>98082486Jokes on you, I like that. Theres a lot of real estate to paint patterns and designs on those big flat surfaces
>>98082497I always wonder what people like this actually get from tabletop.
>>98082453TQ: Miao Ying, the cutest Daughter
>>98082519Fun with their mates as they work to build their armies and board, not everyone has access to fully complete terrain and such, most start from the bottom? Perhaps you can show examples of your own minis on how it’s done.
>>98082531I dont take pictures of my games exactly because I just play with friends. You do make a point I neglected to consider though, at least they are actually playing the game the models are intended for.
>>98082531Mate it costs pennies to hand make terrain, what are you on about. We learn arts and crafts as children, it really shouldn't be too much to ask
>>98082534>at least they are actually playing the game the models are intended forTechnically some of those models are aos
>>98082590Just the terrain I think.
>>98082599I spot this fella in the top right
>>98082617Looks like something from Mantic, not a premium GW product
>>98082617I think the AoS trolls, sorry I mean troggoths are totally fine stand ins for Fantasy ones. Though the big one less so than the rockgut trolls. His proportions are kinda iffy
>>98082622They just don't fit the Warhammer Fantasy aesthetic, sorry
>>98082625What Warhammer Fantasy aesthetic?
>>98082629Don’t respond to Perry fag.
>>98082617>>98082622It's crazy how aos even managed to make the trolls look gay. Remarkable.
>>98082629I plan to get one of these soon, how should I build it? BSB, with eagle claw thrower or just bog standard?
>>98082625>>98082643You're right, they're not nearly yiffy enough to fit in our wholesome TOW, sisters :3
>>98082646ok faggot
>>98082650Uh oh someone feels called out. Gonna go on a rut?
>>98082651>more faggot shit
Garbage thread
>>98082629That's a realistically proportioned eagle pulling a magic boat occupied by elves that have proportions consistent with their species without exaggerated caricature. The concept of the hover boat is silly, but the aesthetic is appropriate to Warhammer Fantasy.Furthermore: it's literally a Warhammer Fantasy model and so is something that (partly) sets the aesthetic.
>>98082659Why does every single fucking general on this godforsaken cesspool of a website needs to have at least 1 schizophrenic shitposting nigger? Like do people really not have anything better to do? Why the fuck would you spend your free time arguing with strangers about something you don't even like in the first place? I just don't understand
>>98082684>That's a realistically proportioned eagleI’m not even gonna get into the last bit but this one alone really proves how retarded you are.
>>980826884chan has always been filled with trolls and shit posters. Real schizophrenia is thinking the same bogeyman is behind every shitpost
>>98082684That's a retarded mini from 8e, there's no justifying it. Many additions from 8e were retarded and a sign of what was to come.
>>98082692Hawk then.It's a bad mini that came at the tail end of the game and was a sign of the decline and so few want to remember it. But it's got the aesthetic, just not the logic of other warhammer models.>>98082688It's their fun. They're like pedophiles or scat fetishists or something, they're just wired wrong. Our impulse to talk about Warhammer in an appreciative way is just as inscrutable to them.I think the best course is to talk around it. On 4chan you can do whatever, you can simply not reply to posts you don't like, make your own, pick which posts you do want to engage in.These can be slow threads so it might look like the thread is only full of shit for a while, but it'll usually pick up.
Dead ass game means dead ass general full of incredibly lazy shitposting
>>98082711>But it's got the aestheticNope. You’re being tricked by the paint job.
>>98082065Yeah, Battle of Atluma was just a digital version of Warcry, no thrills, not even a campaign.wonder why they chose to make it PSP exclusive. I would guess it was to appeal to the Japanese card game market, but I have no idea how popular Warcry was in that market, We know MTG barely scrapes by, and it's an incredibly competitive one compared to NA or Europe.
>>98082711>But it's got the aestheticWhat aesthetic? Tow contains like 6 different aesthetics, and so did whfb back in its day.If foot knights, cathay, and the bird chariot can exist under the same aesthetic umbrella as old ass imperial dwarfs or the beastmasters, I don't think the big aos troll is suddenly a bridge (heh) too far.
>>98082766It's 2 high elves of the same design they had in 6th ed riding on a boat like the preexisting bolt thrower they have pulled by a hawk similar to the wood elves had from 6th.Something from Warhammer Fantasy by necessity looks like Warhammer Fantasy.Something that isn't from Warhammer Fantasy does not look more or even as appropriate as something from Warhammer Fantasy.
>>98082841I feel like if you lined up a bunch of available models from tow now + the big aos troll and then showed this to people not familiar with either game, most would not be able to pick up on the fact that the big troll is from a different game (assuming you put him on a square base)
Post your FaQ wishlist.I will start:Remove skirmish and make all skirmish units open order.Shugengan Ward save is now 6+ and he costs +60 pointsRevert poison.A spell can only be cast successfully once per turn (no more spell scew)press of battle on charges but it is disabled when charged by a unit with a first charge rule.Frenzy works when you dont chargeremove light coverRemove swiftstride
>>98083032>Remove skirmishGay.>ShugenganAgree>poisonAgree>spellsGay. If someone wants to bring 3 pyromancers or 3 goblin shamans, let them.>press of battle disabled by first chargeSeverely retarded, Bretonnia would auto-win every time they got a charge off.>FrenzyAgree>Light coverRetarded>SwiftstrideAgree, charging across half the board is ridiculous.
perrychad is literally right about everything and goes on cool vacations.you need to strive to paint your minis and use terrain and be fit
>>98083065Trvke
>>98083032I feel like you would enjoy something that isnt Warhammer, Im not even trying to be facetious. Try MESBG, its one of the better melee focused wargames that is asymetric with the factions and not historical.
>>98083065>picAlt women love autistic men (if you're attractive and not fat and gay) for some reason.
Lizard-at-arms nearly done
>>98083097Because autism in girls is hard to diagnose compared to with men, and this is one of the clear signs of it in them. Autism has a psychic field where they are drawn to eachother
If I could get the Dwarf Blood Bowl team for really cheap, is that a good source for bases of conversions for Dwarf characters?
>>98083134The dynamic poses are okay but you'll probably want to kitbash them with the irondrakes/Longbeards kits because they're clearly wearing dwarfy football gear
>>98083057Skirmish as it is now has no place in a rank and flank game. On the top level of play it is, and I am not joking, ruining the game.Light cover is the easiest to abuse rule ever. As long as only a milimeter of unit is not visible you suffer a -1 on shots. This makes no sense.Bretonnia is currently playing 100%% skirmish avoidance to get anywhere. removing skirmish and swiftstride would make up for them semi ignoring press of battle.>>98083083So because I want to remove skirmish from a rank & flank game I, according to you, would prefer a 100% skirmish game?
>>98083134I don't think you can do much good with them, but sure, you could carve out bodies for a slayer, a king with shieldbearers, a rune priest and a banner bearer, at the very least
>>98083195Removing skirmish on cav is reasonable, especially monstrous cav. Removing skirmish on infantry (especially archers) is retarded and would remove a lot of flavor from the game, and skirmishers immediately go into rank & flank once combat begins anyway. It makes no sense for an archer or gunner unit occupying a building to be in fucking ranks and not spreading out to maximize visibility and rate of fire.Light cover exists to encourage use of terrain and make movement and deployment more interesting. Without cover or hazardous terrain, there's no point in positioning your units any differently than some pre-planned optimal layout every single game. Maybe it could be improved by specifying 50%+ of the unit must be within cover to benefit from it.
>>98083122As an actual autist: bullshit. Autistic women dislike autistic men even more than regular women do, because their whole existence revolves around masking and so they abhor anything that makes them appear abnormal or even the type of person who associates with abnormality. If you want to recognise a female autist, you look for the most aggressively normiecore women, the kind of women who will devote half their life and multiple rooms of their house to "normal" things like canning or sewing, and who always want to talk about how they're doing normal stuff that everyday normal people do.Goth chicks are just either attention seekers or BPD slags, and the latter glom on to autistic guys because they're often easy to manipulate and will assume their GF's heinous behaviour is somehow their fault or that they're being oversensitive.
>>98083195It seems like you want so much changed/removed you want a different game is why I said that anon. At "top play" there is always some thing that ruins the game, meta fags are gay, dont be one.
>>98083097Ive gotten more pussy at this weight than I did when I was 20kg lighter. I don't understand the female gaze.
>>98083134No. It'd be a complete waste of money for tow.
>>98083241Actual autist here as well and I sort of disagree. You're right that autistic women try to mask more (and are better at it than autistic men) but there are still clear autistic behaviors which sometimes manifest as "alternative" in some form in women, not necessarily goth, but often some flavor of abnormal subculture in which they feel more at ease. Just beware of the "quirk chungus" Jim Carrey impressionists, they are NOT autistic, they're actually deranged normalfags whose idea of being "le quirky nerd girl" is casually watching hyper-popular easily accessible Star Wars/Marvel level "nerd" (lmao) media, acting like more of a sperg than fucking Rain Man, and spamming faggot plebbit humor from like 2012, totally insufferable.>>98083247They're attracted to size, I think. Obviously not being a human blimp of fat, but height + muscle + some fat is a winning combo.
>>98082453Cathay will rise againOoooooh, I wish I was in the land of rice
>>98083036Do you guys not understand you're gonna get a new edition soon with dark elves and ogres added back in as factions?
Ask Questions all you want:https://old.reddit.com/r/WarhammerOldWorldRPG/comments/1threuz/ama_with_cubicle_7_about_warhammer_the_old_world/
>>98083609People just love to Doompost anon.
>>98083619I think any question i ask would just get be removed from reddit since it would be about production pipelines of books and why they all gets delayed
>>98083241>>98083314I think you're both kind of right. There are definitely some autists (men and women) who find it easier to deal with an autistic girlfriend/boyfriend because they have more insight into their behaviour. But autistic men are likely to be more desperate and less choosy about this and so can fall for the kind of demanding/walkover gf the other anon describes.BUT imo there's also a kind of anti-autism field that can occur between two autists where they really fucking hate each other, usually where one autist is perceivably worse than the other or where they are about as autistic as each other but one copes/masks/hides their powerlevel much more than the other. I think autists are drawn together by their special interests, not by inherent traits.
>>98083134I really dislike those slayers, their beards just drag on the ground when they run?
>>98083619I don't have reddit can someone ask them to not put niggers and women in everything?
>>98083619I don't even know what I could ask them. Suggestions?
>>98083673ask whether Basheera and the Tigermen were invented and developed in secret with Creative Assembly or GW gave them notes as well
>>98083673>cathay. do they plan on adding grimness to it, or are they not allowed?
>>98083690Someone already asked about CathayQ>Since Cathay is an official faction in the TOW War Game and a goldmine for content, will there ever be anything Cathay focused released for the RPG?A>We'd absolutely love to! We're such fans of the World of Legend that there's no corner of the setting we wouldn't be excited to bring to the RPG eventually - the challenge is working out what order to do it in. We're currently concentrating on supporting our core setting of Talabec with adventures, campaigns, etc before we expand elsewhere. It's important to provide a satisfying depth to game locations - we don't want to risk covering too wide an area shallowly, as that can limit its usefulness. Dom's already gotten overexcited and mentioned Nuln in an interview though, so watch this space for more!
>>98083619>it's about TOWRPG
>>98083707that's not what I was asking but I'll take it as "we have no plan for it in the foreseeable future"
Do you think we're ever getting a plastic squiggoth?
>>98083733no, get a print
>>98083730if anything, I think WFRP would be more likely to get a Cathey over TOWRPG but it would still be use off at this point
>>98083762still be years out at this point*
>>98083733If we do it will look like some kind of AoS cartoon abomination instead of this.
>>98083733no.>Games Workshop obsessed with shelf space>the only large models allowed are cross-faction like Mega-Gargants, Cogforts and Chaos stuff or Space Marine Vehicles otherwise the profit margin won't pay for the loss of shelf space>Orks sell worse than Space Marines, worse than Imperial Guard, worse than Necron, worse than Tau and even worse than EldarOrks can never get large plastic kits.Made-to-order Resin maybe, nothing in a box on a shelf unless it's a starter set vs marines.
>>98083685The Warhammer Community article seems to state that Bhashiva and the Tigermen were based on GW's designs and notes.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/nj7lekk5/tiger-warriors-revealed-new-units-announced-for-total-war-warhammer-iii/
>>98083810man, you're fucking retarded by bringing up 40k here or forgetting that 40k orks have the single largest plastic kit gw is selling
>>98083844sorry for bringing up 40k in the Squiggoth discussion
>>98083844You are genuinely retarded.
I seriously hope Empire gets something new announced at Skulls im tired of ching chongs and the new furry bait tiger men do nothing for me
>>98083960lmao
>>98083810>orks sell worse than eldarI don't believe you
>>98083609>new edition soonIsnt that a bit early?
>>98084044Start of next year will be 3 years.
>>98084044Eldar stronk.
>>98082504A game of Warhammer fantasy battles, you nogame haemorrhoid.
>>98084044>>98084059I assume 2.0 is coming pretty early next year. Which I welcome. There’s a few things that need tweaking for sure, and also Kislev. Which I am sure is being saved for 2.0.
>>98084044We'll probably know more at the end of the next month, until then the whole company will only talk about the new 40k edition
>>98083065>you need to strive to paint your minis and use terrain and be fitThat's literally all he's been consistently asking of us for years and we turned him into some boogeyman
>>98084059>>98084204NEW BATTLE PASS SEASON NEW BATTLE PASS SEASON !!!
>>98083619Man I always forget how completely useless these official amas are, the poor intern responding very clearly has a 500 pages NDA manual hanging over their head and was strictly briefed to reveal absolutely nothing. They basically haven't answered even a single question with anything beyond "haha we'd love to, that would be a cool idea you're so right." Literally the only new piece of info we get is that the next release will have a Talabecland river pirates scenario. What was the point?
>>98084304>he thinks we pay for the fucking rules
>>98083977my stats aren't worldwide, admittedly this is the case in one single shop in Canada.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU71b35bBzABut I think this may be the case across North America because they're all about competitive play and the Orks are too British for them.Maybe they're very popular in Europe to counter balance that but outweighing the North American market is tough
>>98083609>dark elves and ogres Doubt it- they'll stick to their guns on keeping the 'AoS factions' locked to pdfs, so this is just wishlisting when Orgre refresh is already rumored for AoS. I personally don't mind it since squarebase rules have done a decent job fixing the legacy factions, most communities have warmed up to them, & they've honestly warmed me up to the idea of a 3rd party fixing rules since they won't have a vested interest in trying to make me buy some pushed hypercompetitive model.
>>98084359Why respond to a troll who has no models nor plays the game
Just saw this at the toy store.. think of all the kitbashing potential
>>98084986You often just end up in toy stores?
>>98085014It's called being a father, chud
After taking a break on Warhammer I have lost all motivation. Its been nearly 2 months and now, OWB compulsion, fluff writing or buying urge, gaming urge is dead. Still like reading my old rulebooks but my Khornate and Orc passion is deader than dead.
>>98085039You'll be back.
>>98085037Prove it.
>>98085039Forgot to add, how do I get it back?
>>98085055dwarfbros how do we cope?
>>98085039Unironically, try a awg or historical project for awhile, build some terrain or display pieces, etc. You just have Warhammer fatigue
>>98085039How long were you "into" things before this happened?
>>98085055do you have friends?
>>98085063Thorgrim or Belegar killed him eventually
>>98085203Yes, well, warhammer friends. >>98085097I was busy doing work stuff so had to put on hold. As a consequemce i had to drop out of our escalation league.>>98085089I want to make this guy. LT Schepke from Shadow of the Horned rat.
>>98085289Better image
>>98085289I meant, how long have you been into warhammer before this burnout?For me I'm the type of guy to really focus hard on one particular interest or hobby at a time (I believe the kids nowadays call this 'hyperfixating'), so I end up cycling through them and coming back after a couple months.Could just be time for you to focus on something else for a while. It's a hobby after all, if you don't feel like engaging with it, then, well... just don't.
>>98084288Well, he's not god, my father or my boss, so he cannot dictate what I should do. He's not even 5' tall, how can he have any authority ffs?
>>98085400This reads like a childs temper tantrum
>>98085408That's because it is, except he's 42.
>>98084288I think you're leaving out some key details anon
>>98084288He has consistently insulted even the few exemplary anons who used to post frequently. Do not white-wash the absolute state these threads have been in for well over three years now and don't attempt to revise history either.
Hoping to get a game in this coming weekend. Got any hobby related plans for the end of the weeks Anons?
>>98085408>>98085431Is a 7 year old manlet meme too old for /tg/ now?
>>98085576I will be unsealing, assembling, and painting a box of chaos warriors that has remained entombed in shrinkwrap for 29 years.
>>98085681That is not the picture I wanted to post, foolish computer.
>>98085576Can't wait to see you fight a grey tide army on the ugliest battlefield in history
>>98085576Im packing everything up for moving overseas. Bretonnian Knights with lances are NOT fun to pack. >>98085681>>98085689Kino. What color scheme are you going with?
>manlet is still shitposting hours later What a genuinely pathetic life he must lead.
>>98085754I liked him better when he was posting his hyw dioramas pretending they were empire vs empire games. At least that was funny.
>>98085767That guy doesn't even post here anymore
>>98085767I am kind of starting to pity him. He must have nothing going on in his life if he spends his free days shitposting all day. Atomized society and all that.
>>98085055>PLEASE GORFANG I'LL DO ANYTHING! I'LL FUCKING SUCK YOUR DICK! YOU WANT ME TO EAT SHIT? I'LL EAT YOUR FUCKING SHIT!
>>98085576>the little mushroom poking out of the baseJesus Christ how adorable
>>98085014what do you think warhammer is exactly?
>>98085840> Towddlers love The SöysColor me surprised
>>98085840lmao
>>98085576I painted the dude on titsnek 7 or 8 years ago, so he's way more flat than my current paint jobs. But I'm not one of these madmen who strip their models over and over again. I just gave him a few minor updates here and there, a new base, and he's ready to befriend my Khorne champion in an instant. Also, the first three knights are done>Got any hobby related plans for the end of the weeks Anons?I'd like to wrap up the remaining three of them.
>>98085748>Im packing everything up for moving overseas.Are you me in a few months time? I'm (hopefully) going across the pond and I have no idea how densely I'm going to be able to pack my warhams. I'm hoping it'll all squeeze into my big carry case and a large RUB but that might be wishful thinking.
>>98085910>Painted 7-8 years ago>Rebased for ToW Arse of Smegmar faggot detected, go back to your containment thread.
>>98085910Very nice
>>98086071kill yourself, you tribalist cretin
>>98085055Read the Skarsnik novel.
>>98085576Started priming a bunch of the stuff I was working on last weekend, so I'll probably start painting those. I also have a game scheduled for Saturday, so we'll see how much painting I actually get done.
What heroes could Kislev get on the table? >leader generalist (boyar)>duelist beatstick (golden knight)>caster #1 (ice witch)>caster #2 (hag)>assassin type? (hag servant)>priest (three flavours?)I don't think an engineer be an option for them. Perhaps an Ungol super horse archer? Also, if they get the Tzar Guard and they're their equivalents of Hammerers and Greatsword, what rule would they get? Stubborn, which the Boyar used to grant?
>>98086071TWW newcancer detected. Go back to your containment board.>>>/vg/
>still having a meltyInsane behaviour
>>98086154Mental illness (and being a manlet) is a hell of a drug
>>98085840First one of these that actually made me laugh.
>>98086123Working on the standard bearer of my knights of the realm unit.
>>98086250You are mad talented
So it's pretty much confirmed that 2nd edition will have a cathay vs cathay box since its the only faction that keeps the game afloat, right?
Why would you even bother making boring bait like that.
>>98086141It'll probably be Boyar as the general purpose, well, General of the Empire equivalent. With a Druzhina as the Captain equivalent (with BSB)Probably have to wait for a Kislev Army of Infamy to get a specialist beatstick equivalent to a Grand Master or some such. Two levels of Ice Witch, Lord level and Hero level (Frost Maiden) with two schools of magic (Tempest and Ice) to choose from.A Patriarch to be a hero-level priest providing buffs. Maybe a choice of Cult of Ursun, Dazh or Tor for different prayers. Maybe bring in minor god Salyak like TWW did to have some healing.The hags and their beasts of the forest would likely also be and Army of Infamy since all the beasts were Forgeworld models.
>>98086271We have access to statistics that can be used to infer which armies are popular and which aren't. You're being silly and I'm being stupid by giving out a (You).
>>98086271Cathay vs Chaos Space Cathay.
>>98086332Ogres coming home, vs Chorfs
>>98086323Lord and hero versions of most heroes are obvious, didn't need to bother mentioning that. Oh, and maybe instead of the golden knight hero it would be an ice guard hero. As for the armies of infamy they'll probably be:>cult army>hag army First Kislev wave will probably be the "main" Kislev (regular army, casters and priests) while the hags, monsters and woodsmen/trappers will probably come with a second wave of Kislev minis.
>>98086339Ogres and Kislev. Whichever comes first I will go all in on.
>>98086339I would pre-order that box.
>>98086346Also, my guesses:>core: kossars (with options for armor and other weapons), winged lancers and horse archers>special: tzar guard, streltsi, gryhpon legion, a cannon?>rare: probably bear cav, ice guard, bear sled cannon
>>98086332>Chaos Space Cathay.MAKE NIPPON CHAOS SAMURAI YOU COWARDS
>>98085576I have just begun painting my night gobbos, and I suspect I'll be at it for a while. They're my first models, it's fun but harder than I thought. I painted a friend's spessmuhreen once and that wasn't too bad, but these goblins are so fucking small. And there are so damn many. I'll post a pic when they're done and you can all have a laught at them.
Imagine playing a game of Warmaster of this scale?
>>98086473I can't wait to have my models crushed by some over weight boomer.
>>98086451You can honestly just cheat with a bone drybrush and ralting grime or nuln oil wash over base coats. I wouldn't put too much enough in a billion goblins but its upto you.
>>98086523Why do you make up scenarios in your head?
>>98085746That table post really got to you lol
>>98086473I wouldn't want to play a multi-day 20,000+ point narrative game like this more than a couple of times in my life.
>>98086534Warhammer fundamentally falls apart at massive point games but no one here actually does the hobby so they wouldn't know.
>>98086473That one dude looks like he was alive when this battle took place.
>>98086526Right now I'm kind of just experimenting with paints and techniques to see what actually works, is easy enough for me to do and looks good enough. I'll try your suggestion too.
>>98086529Because he wants to be 'crushed' by an 'overweight boomer'.
>>98086529look at the picture retard and use your brain.>>98086574even bigger retard.
>>98086574>sees fat old man>immediately thinks of gay sexRight this way, sir. >>98082553
>>98086141Not a huge Kislev fan so I'm not well versed in their deep lore, but I'd like to see an Ungol CA hero to go along with an Ungol CA unit, I think they would make fine mercs for my Bret-Tilea-BP soup.
>>98086585Can you seriously not conceive the idea that some people can lean over without falling over? Perhaps it's time you start getting some physical activity
>>98086697his loose shirt is already dragging over the terrain and I wouldn't underestimate boomer overconfidence.
>>98086702Omg... His shirt touched some static grass??? It's over..
>>98086708if you ever played on such a table you'd understand that stretching over a giant table for hours is not as fun as it looks. Large games, Mega battles, Giant weapons, its amazing how often wargaming is filled with size queens who only give a shit about how big something is.
I just want to congratulate the shitposter. He's made this general so unbearable it actually made me check what was up with the old early 10s WHFB forum where I first learned about this hobby and to my delight it looks like there's been a significant uptick of posts there since I last checked like 2 years ago. Might just move back there honestly.
>>98086721Another one bites the dust kek, like 5 to go
>>98086717Idk mate, it seems like boomers are always able to handle it, idk why you or I wouldnt be able to >>98086721Have fun back on reddit
>>98086721I agree, lots of resident retards who are quick to shit on things but then never actually engage in discussion when some one post models or ask questions. It's a particular type of inept lurker that has infested 4chan for the last decade or more.
>>98086721Are we really going to let him win?
>>98086749I've played a few megabattles and they either devolve into a couple certain patterns. first of all, they're never 1v1. it always has to be a big group so that's the first assumptionsecond. when people deploy there's two major patterns, either people take up sectors or people spread their shit around. IF they set up in sectors, this is the more optimal outcome, but it also means that generally you're fighting the guy across from you. but instead of an interesting battle you have to wait for the slow players on both sides to finish up before you can keep going with your spicy 1v1 that will probably have zero effect on the overall objective.OR if you spread out, then it means every turn every combination of players has to resolve every possible attack meaning that rounds take forever.Either way is actually gay as fuck.I'd rather play the 2-3 regular games then play the 1 mega battle.And in playing 2-3 regular games then you can make a narrative campaign for example a pitch battle, that sets up a defensive battle that leads to a siege.which allows you to play quicker more varried games.If you want a war experience, instead of a mega battle, have a campaign, with each battle contributing to the next battle in some way. Make it more creative than>Battle but big (and slow and boring)
>>98086774>campaign Nta, but I've been having this idea in my head of a map based campaign, where there is two copies of the same map with hexes and each player has one, and each move their armies at the same time but without seeing where the other is, almost like Battleship. And you can either keep your army all together in one big army, powerful but risk your enemy going around you and capturing a city or something, or split it into smaller corps so you cover more hexes but are weaker. You can send out cavalry if you have any as scouts to find your enemy, otherwise you only see them when they are on an adjacent hex. The only problem I haven't figured out is, how do you keep the players from walking right past each other, since they can only see their own map? You would have to have a GM to tell when you're next to another players army or your scouts found them. I am trying to find a solution to get rid of the GM but I can't think of something. Also I read about so many real life battles where the entire army isn't present at the start, but they keep arriving through our it. So imagine your army is split it two, well if it's one hex away maybe you can roll a 3+ to have it join you starting turn 2 or 3 or something, if it's 2 hexes away you have to roll a 5+ to have it join you, if it's 3 hexes away it's too far to make it in time Idk I haven't fleshed it out yet. All the other hex map campaigns I've looked into are way too autistic and complex and simulationist, or too simple you might as well not use them
>>98086806one game that does hidden sequence orders really well is warroom.the game is like axis and allies, except you only have 9 moves in a turn, and they are all written secretly and revealed at the same time. In that games moves are done in order of priority (which is bid on in a secret ballot using resources at the start of turn (using dice to resolve ties)) and in that case if an army moves into a square with an army then the army that was defending has its move cancelled since it has to fight (in reality the game has a pinning mechanic so that small armies can't just pin much larger armies so that small skirmishing forces can only reduce how many forces a larger army can then move but that's not really as important in this case.So in that sense I'd experiment with a rotating turn order that's fair, or you could randomize it, or If the campaign has resources (like many map campaigns do) then some of those resources could be ones that boost turn order or be spent on turn order, this is especially good if it becomes a choice of maybe having a free and extra 25pt banner in the next battle or ensuring that you have the initiative and are the attacker in the next battle. I played a big map campaign once and it was cool since each tile had a buff or bonus in some way, some were campaign buffs that helped with mobility (can move twice, but taking a neutral or enemy territory always stops movement) or battle buffs (can spend extra 10% on special, etc.), or even magic items (access to free items, or access to powerful items that still have point cost but would otherwise not be available to that army, or one my favorite ideas was having a cheap generic magic item that is found by a unit champion so as long as you're using that unit that champion gets that magic weapon.) you know things to add flavor to armies that aren't game breaking but can be thematic and allow for different builds or heroic stories.
>TQMoon Empress, because she is almost certainly influenced by Chian Chi/Tzeentch.
>>98082497I would be too embarrassed to take this photo, much less post it on the internet.I'm sure, somehow, even when the day comes that GW makes pre-painted miniatures, I will continue to be disappointed.
>>98086866Eh, he did start an interesting conversation about large point games.>>98086891GW only rolled out pre-painted terrain because 40niggers were genuinely embarrassing them and damaging the 40k brand with how miserable and pathetic their average table looks now. Not even just tourneyfags, but your average casual table, too. Look around any game store at a 40gay pickup game, you'll see fat fucking filthy slobs playing contrastslopped models on unpainted cardboard L-shaped ruins on shitty neoprene mats. 40k has never been more popular and yet the game has never looked worse.
>>98086872>chink bait being anything less than perfectwill not happen for a long time, remember it took the tau more than a decade to become somewhat palatable
>>98086872The Moon Empress being the Tzeentchian Morathi counterpart of Cathay would make for an interesting twist.
>>98086951I don't need it to be explicitly said, I just want it hinted at. Keep the mystery alive y'know?
>>98086866You're the reason this general is dying. Any time an actual conversation starts you get ass blasted and start screeching
>>98086937>40k has never been more popular and yet the game has never looked worseWell this is always the result of anything gaining too much popularity. Things must be small, exclusive and niche to have any sort of prestige or quality. Sure McDonalds is more popular and brings in more revenue than a Michelin star restaurant, but we all know which one is higher quality and substance
>>98086857>War room Is this a board game that is its own complex game, or a simple system that can be ported for using in Warhammer Fantasy campaigns?
>>98086806Why not just use Mighty Empires, which was made for this purpose?
>>98087057You know Mighty Empires exists made explicitly for Fantasy right?
>>98087057it is its own complex board game, here's a picture of the last game i played. While its a campaign map game, and its focus is mainly strategic and not tactical, the battles still require you to choose your forces stances which can change depending on the organization of the enemy force so they are interesting in their own right.but how this game handles movement is1. People can bid oil in secret2. bids are revealed all together, and order of movement determined3. Oil is an important resource for building power units like tanks and battleships and carriers so the trade off of gaining initiative vs building bigger armies4. Armies are also moved in order, but since a player can only move 9 armies in a turn and as you can see there's lots of navies, armies and air force units, you write you 9 orders in secret on a paper (so in this picture fleet 2 off the coast of Los angeles could move from p-4 to p-5 as one of the moves) 5. since armies are moved in order the people who spent resources on initiative have an advantage since they can choose to be more aggressive and if against a neighboring army, can force the battle to happen in the enemy territory, allowing them to take territory faster and on their terms, however the trade off for going last is that you get more resources for a more powerful army. and you can see how moves play out and then you can choose to cancel bad orders or not.this turns an unfair advantage into a game mechanic that gives players interesting choices in the campaign map.Now the difference that I would say from a game design, is that this game is a campaign map mainly game, and the battles are secondary, so when making rules for a warhammer campaign you should actually do the opposite, make simple and small campaign maps with simple rules, because its the battles that will be complicated and be the focus. So for me I'd make the map small, 4-5 territories per person at most.
>>98087100>>98087110Where can I find the PDF for might Empires? The simple newer version, not the dense old one?
>>98086269Thanks but not really, I'm just following braindead principles.
>>98087034>this general is dyingWe move at about twice the pace of the AoS general, and like 50% of their thread is /v/ trolling them and calling their game shit.
>>98087248That’s only been somewhat recently thoughbeight. And it’s not like the posting here is exactly organic, we have some samefagging here, not including a certain manlet.
>>98087248It's not /v/ it's me. Thanks for reminding me btw, brb.
>>98087258Prolific posters ≠ samefags. Also, Perryfag's continual infamy here is fucking deranged considering his worst crime was shitting up the general with pics of... him playing the game by himself. And his thick fucking plappable legs. No homo.
>>98087248AoS general stays way more on topic than this secondary shithole. Anyone believing otherwise is just blinded by hatred or extremely schizophrenic.This place only has 40kg beat purely because of the samefagging. But this will never change because its fantasy and fantasy discussion online is practically impossible. >why are you here Purely to ragebait retards who pretend to be a fan of a system I play.
Anyone else own a classic Louen Leoncoeur? I swear to God this frog fucker's helmet crest is just meant to be like 15 degrees askew to the left, I've boiled him like a teabag and practically broke my thumbs trying to bend the fucking thing to the right to no avail.
Is there a reason not to just put your wizards in units?
>>98085841Thanks, I aim for a forest (fir and spruce) themed base. So that means ferns, mushrooms, the occasional rock and dead bush, along with painting the base to look like it has moss and other smaller bits of greenery on it.
>>98087312On a second note I think the better example would be the bases on my centigors. But I cannot wait until I’m done with my ghorgon too so I can kit out his large base.
>>98087312What region of the world do you live on? I live on the Rockies and that makes me inspired mostly by Aspen trees, and I want to include them but idk how to make them in miniature form desu
>>98087309Nah, wizard bunkers are needed for a lot of armies
>>98087309The fact he could be targeted easier than if you float behind a unit, or he might get fucked up by a Look Out Sir! roll or fuck up the unit he joins with a miscast. I do it anyways 'cause it looks cool and my cock is fat.
Got a nice pic of my second game. Pretty fun, though leadership trashed my mates ogres. Grimgor is carrying me and I need to stop. He slaughtered the tyrant in a challenge. I’m using the giant troll as a giant, the four of them were a gift from my pal who quit age of Sigmar. It’s a fun game, this thread should try it.
>>98087323Across the pond m8 in Euroland. My inspiration is the vast pine and fir forests of Eastern Europe and Scandinavia, which is fitting locations for Beastmen imo
>>98087335I will be in Euroland soon. I can't wait to live in a place where Fantasy is quite popular.
>>98087333you forgot to hobby
>>98087333>the donuts out in the open People in this general have no fucking shame. Just take a picture of your belly button at this point.
>>98087354The time to hobby never ends.
>>98087333*sign* I don't even know where to start
>>98087333Do fat fucks really need to stuff their faces with donuts while gaming? Like you can't do one thing with out shoveling slop down your throat?
>>98087304
>>98087333I really want to be kind and encouraging, but you niggas make it so hard I stg. You really aren't capable of even a little effort.. like, at all?
>>98087370>see food>get angryIt must be sad to be so poor you have to choose between plastic and snacks... when we play together I'll let you have one of my donuts, maybe then you won't be so grumpy :)
>>98087333Well, good job man. >GrimgorWwre you playing 6th ed?
>>98087401We played 8th, though might switch to Warhammer Armies Project.
>>98087435Try 3rd edition seriously
>>98087375Have I lost my gourd or is mine askew? It looks crooked to me.
This thread has become unusable, somebody make an IRC or discord or something
>>98087519Where do you think these people are from to begin with, anon?
>>98087453I just snapped one of the wings off trying to bend it again so the point is moot. Shit. From others I've seen it seems this left tilt is a common problem but not the norm, I'll just buy another one.
>>98087567Let it be a valuable lesson.
>>98087567Why do you persist in buying overpriced shitty models?
>>98087604>Confucius say: better be tilted left than snapped in half
>>98087715Um gluing a wing back on is literally impossible, he NEEDS a new one
>>98087248Both generals were created at around the same time yesterday but we're like 80 replies "behind"While we're on the topic, I've noticed that lately this thread is slow as fuck during yuro hours but gets a good amount of activity during burger hours, while it's the reverse for the aos thread. Wouldn't you expect that to be the other way around?
>>98087806It used to be the reverse, where the thread was dead outside of Euro hours
Why bother posting when there's been no news for months and this thread is 90% perrysperging and beastman circlejerk?
>>98087831Talk about your own dudes, games, fluff, etc then, be the change you want to see.Also; Raaroo!
>>98087879>fluffI have decided that there are 6 kinds of cat people on the warhammer world>sabertooths that the old ones uplifted to the level of stone age cavemen as a test>jaguar people that were the first refined prototype and were kept with the lizards >the finalised tigermen warriors brought into and uplifted on the ind subcontinent >some tigermen went west, reaching the southlands, and speciated to be lion-like>some of the leonine group integrated into nehekhara and died with them>of the ones that moved east the smallest integrated the best and reached nippon and that so many beastmen are derived from greek myths that it's a shame to not have not!greece in warhammer, so I'm writing one and decided it fell because beastmen betrayed them to side with a slaaneshi army at the battle of nekropylae
>>98087831Last news was 20 days ago drama queen.
>>98082453>tqbalthasar geltFavorite helm design because I’m a hopeless sucker for helmets that have a faceplate that is modeled after a neutral expression human face.I’m not really sure what the style of such a “helmet” is called.
>>98087722why would it be? is it plastic? metal or resin?
>>98086806I do a escalating narrative campaign with some buddies. For a lot of the macro level stuff, like the map movements you're talking about, we use a GM, but we also do something similar to what this anon >>98086857 is talking about. The only things shown to all players are world events, large events (like battles), or declared actions. Declared actions are sort of what that other anon was talking about. Certain actions are written down by players and those actions get revealed at the same time. Not all actions players take have to be declared, but every player has to do a certain number of declared actions every turn.As an example of what I'm talking about, I'm running beastmen, so a declared action I might make would be raiding a village, desecrating a shrine, or doing a larger character action - like a ritual from my greater bray-shaman. Conversely, one of my buddies, who is playing a Border Prince/Empire deal, might place an order for mortars from Nuln, a begin a general march, or a start a levy/muster in a town as a declared action. The idea is to leave a breadcrumb trail for people to follow which can be used to figure out what other players are doing.That being said, depending on what faction people are playing, there's different ways to see the actions people don't declare. As an example, scouts or spies can be used to learn about otherwise hidden army movements or locations. This is sort of where having a GM comes in handy, since they can facilitate who gets to see what at all times.
>>98087904Interesting take on your dudes, please show off some of your cat people minis you use to play Beastmen with, we’re all waiting for bated breath for your meaningful contribution to this hobby.If you can show you’re actually invested in this hobby you may go and stay go :)
>>98087304>>98087375>>98087453holy shit anon. let god give you the strength to accept the things you cant change. i didnt notice anything until the super zoomed in pic, and it will still look good painted up. also just glue the wing back on lol
>>98085748I had considered giving them a mark, probably either Tzeentch or Khorne, and painting them appropriately, but I will most likely just paint them in the colours of Chaos Undivided and treat them as the capstone to my big Undivided project. Once they're done, I'll have two regiments of 20 Undivided chaos warriors, one with hand weapons and shields and the other with halberds (metal and plastic ones!) with a couple extra models just in case, five forsaken made using the mutation sprue, five knights, and a chariot, all in black, gold, and silver and from 1997-1998, and I think that'd be a good stopping point. Then and only then can I get back to making marked regiments or some daemons, not that the latter can even be used alongside my warriors in TOW right now.
>>98087904>>98087992If you want kitties with titties just let me know mang. Give a good description of what you want and I'll shoot ya an example.
What happened to the distinctive forgeworld style models used to have? Back in the day before they shut FW as a seperate thing down they all had a very distinctive Blanchean style that was really fucking cool and grimdark, now all their shit looks the exact same as any other NuGW shite. I know the stores have been combined but specialist games still survives as its own independent team, right? Was there a big designer who left?
Where should I start with WHFRP? Is Old World basically just a new edition?
>>98088236Old World is a new RPG with different rules set in the same period as the Old World tabletop wargame (a few hundred years before the standard Warhammer setting). If you want to play WFRP specifically, I'd go either 2nd or 4th edition, or wait for the 5th which is supposedly coming soonish. 2nd and 4th are both good in their own ways and it's easy to convert material between them (there are free conversion tables online too). 5th is supposedly going to be a cleaned up and streamlined 4th.
>>98088236>Where should I start with WHFRP? Just go 4e (or wait for 5e to come out if you're patient), while I'm about to say the various benefits and drawbacks of each edition, 4e can do all of the things previous editions can but better it just requires you to actually GM. E.g. if you want a more mudcore experience just tell your players to not pick the high fantasy careers. That said here goes.If you're getting into WFRP because you enjoy the Warhammer setting from the tabletop/games like Total War or Vermintide, then 4e. It gives you the ability to play things like Ogres, Skinks, cool Elf careers that you'll see on the tabletop like Swordmasters, etc. and is just generally a much better "This is roleplaying the Warhammer Fantasy universe," vibe than previous editions. 1st edition is the best if you want the gritty mudcore shit that WFRP is known for, it's basically a fantasy version of Call of Cthluhu in that you're in a vaguely historic world. 2e is similar to 1st but it's set after the Storm of Chaos event so everyone knows about chaos and there's more magical shit about, making it less of a pseudo-historical world.3rd edition is based on the FF Star Wars system but they also tried to merge it with WFRP and so it's weird. Also it was designed to be played out of the box that had all the special dice and tokens and shit so, while it can technically be played now through various downloads and crafts, it requires a lot of work which I wouldn't reccomend to a first time GM.>Is Old World basically just a new edition?No. It's advertised as a "simplified WFRP" but it's not. It's only simplified WFRP in that it's a more simple game to play that is also set in the Warhammer World, every other mechanic in the game works completely differently, and it's more like a simplified lower fantasy AoS: Soulbound. They also say "It's compatible with WFRP 4e" but this is also complete bullshit and if you try to use their conversions you'll be left with a broken mess.
>>98088225>What happened to the distinctive forgeworld style models used to have?it was from handscupting, now models are digitally sculpted, but you still see it in models that are handsculpted, for example the engineer that was included with the war wagon, who was only handsculpted because the artist did it on his own and then later pitched it to the team
>>98088265>it's basically a fantasy version of Call of Cthluhu in that you're in a vaguely historic world.Does this mean the focus is less on combat and more on mystery solving, or that the PCs are underpowered and the system is very lethal?
>>98088284Both
>>98088280Yeah but a ton of the old Forgeworld stuff was also digitally sculpted right? Like the Tamurkhan stuff and Fimir, they were digitally sculpted but they still had a very Blanchean look to them.
>>98088294I dunno about every single model but 90% of Forgeworld's stuff was handsculpted back in the day. Again don't know about everything but I looked it up and yeah they were all hand sculpted. I imagine that 'Forgeworld Style' is them still using handsculpting unlike now, but also having people with actual skill so you don't get the abominations you did in the 80s and 90s
>>98088284WFRP in general is more of an investigation game than a combat game regardless of edition. There is combat of course, and it is quite brutal. The deadliness has slightly been toned down in 4th edition but it's still very easy for PCs to get in over their head and end up killed or badly maimed.
>>98088294>they were digitally sculptedI don't think so, fw was still showing greens at the time
>>98088309I'd say it's more than slightly toned down in 4th with all the powerful careers, advantage, and fate/fortune/resilience/resolve points.
>>98088329Yeah I looked it up and you're right, I guess it's what >>98088302 said in that they look really good because they're sculpted by hand by people who actually know how to sculpt by hand.
>>98088335Well, 4th edition is very modular so it sort of depends on how you play it exactly. >powerful careersIf you're randomly rolling and only advancing as suggested, you might never even see them.>advantageCan actually make the game deadlier if your GM isn't letting you get the drop on every bad guy. >fate/etcYeah, though that system has been around in previous editions too.
Lord give me strength to not question why I'm wasting my life doing this.
>>98088265TOWRPG is kinda od since it's a different game mechanically from WFRP, but not thematically since you basically end up doing the same thing in both games
>All the pissing and shitting about games being posted without a proper tableYall can kiss my ass- sometimes people just want to play a game with frens, and sometimes frens don't have a proper setup.
>>98088403And that's why we invented the death penalty
>>98088403You just need to learn to ignore our resident schizo. He replies to every on topic post and tries to derail.
>>98083619Took me a while, but I've compiled the entire fucking thing into a pic.
>>98088377>freehand dozens of fleur de lys>over fucking yellow
Can anyone help me with evaluation of basic demons in 6th ed based on fun factor (horrors/bloodletters/furies/plaguebearers/daemonettes)?
>>98088453So you can suck my shit and eat my dick?
>>98088471Is that supposed to express disapproval at that magnificent heraldry?
>>98088280Absolute kino model btw, it actually takes the piss they didn't sell this seperately, I'd have bought one (for the right price obviously)
>>98088510The fact is only sold in an MTO was what I found bafflingit was also apparently one of the more successful MTOs they did
>>98088499it's a mix between "aw shit nigga what are you doing" and "I know your pain"
>>98088294No, there's a reason that Trish Carden and a bunch of the other old school sculpters were working at FW towards the end of their careers
>>98088551Oh fuck I forgot about that model, Christ why can't they just release all the old and unreleased Forgeworld shit in Old World. Give either Beastmen or Warriors Fimir in Special with some rule like 1 Fimir Warriors Battleline if the General is a Balefiend or some shit.
>>98088704They should combine Warriors, Demons and Beasts again like back in 6th anyways.
>>98088294Priestley did a lot of the Tamurkhan stuff and said it was all greenstuff
>>98088722He made models?
I going to do some AI of Greasus Goldtooth and Zhao Ming I'm pretty sure that big fat ogre is bigger than Zhao Ming in Human form ( along with wider)but how high should I tell the AI to make Zhao Ming next to Greasus?
>>98085576>Got any hobby related plans for the end of the weeks Anons?Got my spoils from last weekend based over the week, also the Knights I got for cheap from ebay arrived.Was planning on painting at least the Warriors over the long weekend, but I unexpectedly found someone to play some Dropzone with in my neck of the woods. So I might paint a bit of that instead, we'll have to see.
>>98088758Bellybutton height
>>98088792nice kitbash turning that Lord Character into a standard bearer
>>98088838Thanks. Always thought the pose made for a good BSB.And luckily the head swap was easy despite James' fuckery with the assembly of modern minis.
>>98088820>>98088758 I gave it two images from Total War of than both standing up and told it the following( Okay these two man the first one is a Warhammer fantasy ogre shaking hands with the second one who is a dragon in his human form it's complicated but the two seconds hands in a ogre camp the first one noticeably higher in high than the second one reach into Bellybutton height.) do you think it did a good job ?
soooo whats the difference between the 5th ed kotr and 6th ed kotr? bret autist go
