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>Previous thread:
>>98086259

>thread question:
Do you ever actually use grenades
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>>98088618
>TQ
I play nids
I'm not allowed to
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Should I paint my army white and red with purple helmets for commanders/leader?

Or should I paint my army purple and red with white armor for commanders/leaders?
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>>98088618
yes, and I have a canoness to do it for FREE
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>>Get told the new detachment system will help buff my army
>Want to try running Incubi again
>GW teases a 1dp detachment that specifically buffs the keyword the Incubi have, so you can combine it with things like the transport melee detachment
>Look inside
>Sustained Hits for Shooting Only
why gw, why
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>>98088630
why do you keep reposting someone elses model
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BIG
BOUNCY
BANSHEE
BUTTS
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>>98088637
why are you like this
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Are howling banshees all female or are they all just modeled that way?
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Will they make thunder hammers good this edition?
Will death company captains with jump packs gain the option to take thunder hammer w/ relic shield?
Will sanguinary guard get a proper refresh?
These are just some of the questions I have for 11th
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>>98088640
He needs to justify liking a faction that has no redeeming qualities and is actively hated by GW themselves, and porn is the only thing Eldar have left to be good at.
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Didn't notice [Pistol] is apparently being renamed
Guess they'll have to day-1 errata all the Codexes for at least one thing then
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The Wizards who are superior to Eldar are up
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/ka6kjyka/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-thousand-sons/
Monday is GSC.
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>>98088630
Dark Eldar exist just to suffer
>But uh... Incubi don't really need buffs, they are already superb.
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>>98088637
>helmet
>has eyes
Would look better with a regular helmet
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>>98088647
I agree in spirit but also I do find the Eldar coom material appealing, should we not at least get something out of Eldar?
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Anons, do you prefer beams or bolts for lasguns?
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>>98088661
Eldar are perfectly find staying in their current role; Imperial cocksleeves.
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>>98088654
>Monday is GSC.
they're really avoiding eldar huh
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>>98088647
I don't know how you can look at the massive numbers of new models and interesting Detachments Eldar have had recently and say GW hates them.
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>>98088647
>>98088664
literally rent free lmao
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>>98088663
beams. and no recoil.
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>>98088667
It is odd, because that means they're having and AdMech v Eldar exhibition match with 11th edition rules without previewing the rules for either army.
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I like orks :D
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>>98088670
Nice 'Psyker faction', bro.
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>>98088663
Bolts moving fast enough to blur into beams, the beams should just vanish in a flash and not linger in the air for ages like some games do them
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>>98088667
The Gay/Tranny player base always has to be handled with supreme tact and delicacy so as not to offend and cause riots outside of GW in the name of equality.
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>>98088654
1k Sons fags like to make fun of eldarfags as if they aren't the single most POZZED faction out there lol
Your mandatory Tzaangor detachment, faggots
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>TQ
Back in my day you didnt need to spend a command point to throw grenades; it happened automatically during the assault phase.
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>>98088688
Back in MY day they were weapons with attack profiles
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>>98088670
nta but they are always beloved by the model and rules teams and hated by the narrative team. he outs himself as a secondary because he's absolutely correct they are despised by the fluff writers. gav thorpe who did most of the books and expansion off of the original ideas literally bragged in multiple white dwarf articles be was a WHFB dwarf fag and enjoyed make the eldar bad at everything because elves are annoying and evil and its grimdark. unfortunately they just got tainted by this hack larping and its no entrenched by GW proper to the point its become boring and uninteresting.

99% of eldar fans know this and just ignore our books and lore at this point, and instead just embrace the very good aesthetics.
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>>98088675
what if they intentionally didn't reveal it so they cold reveal it on stream? have you considered it doubles as the reveal?
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>>98088686
dear God why WE ALREADY HAVE MULTIPLE FUCKING TZANIGS DETACHMENTS ALREADY
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>>98088692
>99% of eldar fans know this and just ignore our books and lore at this point
This is still such a funny stance
>Yeah we're fans of this faction but we also hate all of their writing and lore
You're not fans of the faction, you're fans of the various headcanons you've concoted to cope with Eldar being a faction you can't actually bring yourself to like.
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>>98088698
you vill play the fucking birds
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>>98088692
I don't think bad books is exclusively an Eldar problem either. Black Library quality is all over the place and skews low. They've just ONLY had bad books which are extremely memable for how bad they are.
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>>98088699
>secondary seething that nobody actually gives a fuck about BLslop
you love to see it
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If two or more male Eldar infantry units are within 3 inches from each other they can form a train and turn into what they call an Aeldari Centipedal unit that boosts movement and adds 1 to hit. I should apply to GW.
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>>98088703
I refuse seriously couldn't they have given something to literally any other unit
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>>98088707
I thought the Infinite and the Divine was pretty good.
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>>98088699
kind of true honestly, but also they just look cool. Its genuinely bad writing to have them job 100% of the time, why would I care about new Eldar lore when its just going to be "elves saw the future, did retard thing and took 1 gorillion casualties and lost"? Genuinely, why would I care? Take the recent maelstrom campaign book. The new corsair models look awesome, why would I give a fuck they jobbed to Huron because they did retard thing, took 1 gorillion casualties and lost?

The fact that Prince Yriel even killed one chaos space marine is already better than most Eldar writing.
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>98088699
I like eldar because power rangers aspect warriors and wraiths are cool, stay mad marinefag.
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>>98088710
>seething
Crazy how 90% of the time someone complains about BL it's an Eldar player mad about being 'wrongly represented', and then when you point out that they're the ones who are wrong they say YOU'RE actually the one seething.
Face it, Eldar are punching bags and if you can't accept it then you're just coping.
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>>98088710
Similar thing going on with idoneth in AoS
There's one (actually pretty decent) book but it contradicts basically everything that's established in the codexes
Most people just ignore it
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>>98088713
Brutal Cunnin' was funny, not much more you can ask of an Ork pov book.
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>>98088727
>more seethe
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>>98088728
>AoS
>Lore
Lmao
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>>98088699
I think you can love the codex background lore (Lost Gods, Fall of the Eldar, Path system, Aspect Shrines, Phoenix Lords, Craftworld identities and organizational stricture, psychic technologies and practices, rivalry with Slaanesh, diaspora of other Eldar types) and still not like the actual Novels they use to try to extrapolate from that lore without using it in service of any interesting character or story arcs (Eldar get invaded and use none of their unique identities to resist the space marines, Eldar go on a quest that was doomed to fail from the start, Eldar warrior of immortal ancient prowess bumbles into and out of hijinks for no reason, Eldar predicts the future wrong fifteen times in a row but gets it right once in a cursed way). It's not the lore that's a failure of the faction, it's the writers not caring enough to do anything interesting with it as a foundation.
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>>98088715
that's a necrons book homie

>>98088727
I'm not complaining we are 'wrongly represented'. I just genuinely couldn't care less. the eldar books are bad, and I don't care about bad books. its really just that simple. its a matter of taste. if you really like the Eldar lore where they exist just to be NPCs who get mogged by space marines to make them look cool than you should be happy and I have no idea why you are getting upset.

Our model range is fantastic and looks great, and I love the aesthetic.
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>>98088743
The eldar and dark elder in it briefly but I guess you're right; It's not their point of view.
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>>98088654
Is it just me or is the first detachment kind of shit, D3 wounds on a non monster unit once per turn seems pretty useless
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eldar genestealers are canon
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>>98088739
this post pretty much sums it up perfectly.
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>>98088663
Is there some kind of “mario mandate” situation with dow4? Everything I’ve seen of it has looked bland and uninspired.
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>>98088754
Well yeah. On multipart instances too. There's Craftworld Zaisuthra in the Ynnari books that willingly submit to it and there's the Vorgani in Commoragh who... also willingly grafted themselves into the cult.
I think I see a theme here
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>>98088763
Pretty sure they'd be able to sense something fucky with genestealers since they're all psychic. Would make sense that the only way that it happens is willingly.
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>>98088763
Eldar can't resist the BGC (Big Genestealer Cult)
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>>98088761
That's standard practice for all 40k IP games. The developers have to make the game models as close to the current existing products they represent as possible and GW has veto rights if they feel that something is being misrepresented on any way. HW also does not provide any 3D models or CAD files to help with this, by the way.
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>>98088743
his secondary ass cannot comprehend that most people that actually participate in the hobby pick their factions based on models and aesthetics, not lore
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Asked the Sloppa to come up with a plague marine detachment to make PM's more durable and this is what it pumped out.
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>>98088776
Right, I’m sure if it was canon your dudes were into beastiality that you would have still chosen them…come on now, lore is very important.
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>>98088761
This is not DoW 4, it's Battlesector. DoW 4 has las "bolts" too tho
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>>98088785
> if it was canon your dudes were into beastiality that you would have still chosen them
I literally wouldn't care because it has nothing to do with their models
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>>98088754
no they aren't? there's lore that Eldar dna is too complicated for genestealers to give the kiss, and tyranids proper love eating them because their DNA is so potent. I think I'm super old 2E says the psychic nids came from eating Eldar.
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Did they ever say what Support does? Units that can attach in addition to Leaders?
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>>98088686
Tzangors were part of TS before Rubrics were even invented, cope and seethe
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>>98088785
Plenty of individual specimens (I can't bring myself to call them people) purport to liking Space Wolves though.
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>>98088798
Ynnari books have a Genestealer Craftworld
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>>98088785
that's WHFB beastmen and a lot of people WERE specifically into that.

also
>what if retarded thing?
well there isn't retarded thing so I don't care
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I love the old sculpts so much.
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>>98088785
I would have and I did.
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>>98088807
Isn’t that the one where an avatar of Khaine was infected?
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>>98088804
Because their lore is incredibly fleshed out and enticing.
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>>98088807
Huh, neat. I didn't read them but good to know I guess.
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>>98088686

They really want people to use the robots too
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>>98088810
>>what if retarded thing?
well there isn't retarded thing so I don't care.

This man didn’t eat breakfast
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>>98088784
>Iron within, decay without
kek
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>>98088825
quite lolipedo
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>>98088816
>Because their lore
no nigga it's because they're space vikings
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>>98088787
>I couldn’t even tell them apart
anyways, it still looks way worse from a graphics and art style standpoint from dow2.
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>>98088799
Sounds like a strong bet
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>>98088807
>Craftworld Zaithustra: This Craftworld was completely overtaken by Genestealers. The Patriarch convinced the Eldar that it was an avatar of the god Khaine and that the Hive Mind’s psychic presence would protect them from Slaanesh.
>Craftworld Iyanden: Featured in the Ghost Warrior novel, this incident involved an Eldar cult that actively embraced the Genestealer taint in a desperate, misguided attempt to use the Tyranid Hive Mind to stave off Slaanesh's hunger.

Huh, neat. I guess it kind of makes sense. If you don't have a soul its hard to have your soul eaten.
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>>98088811
thin your paints bro
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>>98088663
>>98088673
>>98088681
Beam, WITH recoil, LINGERING.
Lasguns hurl a trillion photons all at once, that's .22 cal recoil.
These photons burn the air they go through, which causes a contrail that lingers for a moment, before dissipating.
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>>98088815
wouldn't be an eldar novel if the avatar didn't job
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>>98088663
loooooooooooooong fast bolt
make it trail off, but make it so long that it looks like a beam if you aren't looking at it closely
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>>98088851
Dark Heresy CRPG made something like this (at least in Alpha and Beta)
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>>98088816
The post you are replying to was implying Space Wolves fuck dogs.
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>>98088663
I imagine that there are both kinds of lasguns in existence. At least if we go by the videogames and buks. I don't think one kind needs to render moot the existence of the other.
It would make more sense for lasguns to be 'bolts' because a lasgun that traced exactly where you are and fucking everyone near you in the process.
I'd imagine the 'beam' lasguns are probably mass-produced shit shoved into the hands of the PDF while the 'bolt' lasguns are the state-of-the-art lasguns reserved for cadian shock troops and the like.
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>>98088864
I know, I ignored that part because it was childish and stupid and not based on reality.
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>new warboss datasheet just has a choppa and no power klaw

Surely its a separate datasheet to the current warboss?
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>>98088869
ah, so the Meltagun answer
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>>98088877
>There is little a meltagun cannot destroy
>S8
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the beam is invisible and the "bolts" are tracers so you can actually see what you are shooting

there, it's fucking solved
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>>98088663
>Beams or bolts
Neither. Muzzle flash and explosion/detonation on impact. It's either from old lore or I made it up.
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>>98088825
okay but what if you didn't eat breakfast?

>>98088845
but photons don't weigh nothin. I could carry trillions np.
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>>98088787
>it's not DoW4
Could have fooled me
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>>98088728
To be fair blight kind stuff an be hand waves as unlikely but possible within real lore.
Lorthan or whatever his name was being an Akhelian for generation is literally 1/100000000 odds, but still
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>All life is le shit and we wiped out life on all our worlds because ew life
>NOOOOO I WANT MY BODY BACK, DEAD GODS GIMME
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>>98088803
Yet is still shit.
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>>98088895
Correct: Fuck Life but i want a real body. Now gimme and die
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Choco Eldar?
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>>98088895
'crons are just jelly
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>>98088682
The irony of saying this when imperiumtards shit their britches every two seconds over the most minute shit
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>>98088895
>>
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
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>>98088902
what's the truth?
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>>98088909
You are right but you will regret it
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>>98088916
The emperor imprisoned a shard of the void dragon on mars and that's probably what caused the machine cult in the first place.
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Sloppa detachment guy here. I've ran out of shit. You guys give me ideas for the machine and I'll get it to pomp out
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>>98088928
nobody wants this garbage in the first place, you faggot
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>>98088928
Fulfill its true purpose as abominable intelligence and make a darkmech detachment for CSM
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>>98088928
Ultramarines detachment to ally Ynnari in.
Make a special rule for Yvraine and Guilliman being close to each other.
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Dark Mech will be better than Admech
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>>98088922
No, I don't think that I will.
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>>98088928
Ask it to fix the shit SW detachments and make the boasts more achievable, stupid GW wanklets.
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>>98088936
I wonder if GW is just going to inevitably lean in to the memes or try to swerve as hard away from them as possible.
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>>98088937
That’s why it will never come
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>>98088928
it will probably lead to a dozen hallucinations, but freebooter/blood axe mercenary detachment.
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>>98088928
abominable intelligence darkmech detachment
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>>98088936
i wish gw recover the ynnari as a the eldar death cult faction
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>>98088947
You can't deny him his faction of Daemon engines, anon.
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>design of the sekhetar robots is starting to grow on me even though I shat on them constantly for months
>actually starting to like them
why does this keep happening; it occurred with the skatros too
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>>98088928
i want you to stop posting slop. how about a kys detachment where you roll a D6 and on any result you kys
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>>98088953
He has two!!!
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>>98088955
its because you have an old good new bad mindset. how good a unit looks is how old it looks. the older the suckytars get the better they will look to (You). in 10 years fake grogs will be complaining about them being squatted and how they are the classic tsons unit.
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>>98088889
Carrying them isn't the issue. Hurling them is; they don't have mass but they do have momentum.
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>>98088955
>>98088967
They are dragged down by their box art. They look a lot better with more tsons colors on em.
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>>98088916
The 1d6chan page for it has a decent coverage list. Personally I find the void dragon being the Omnissiah fucking retarded as it doesnt work with the rest of the machine spirit stuff etc. and its become reddit tier. I can accept >>98088925 to some degree as the VD having some minor perhaps unconcious influence over them and inspire the cult arising on Mars but galaxy wide it falls apart.
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>>98088945
They seem like hard core contrarian dorks who make jokes about things their player base wants during live streams and giggle to themselves about it. You asked about Primarchs? Oh they’re all dead LOL! Just listen to your player base you nerdy freak.
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>>98088978
A bunch of master baiters they are
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>>98088967
I think it's more that I have reactionary tendencies that get tempered over time
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>>98088663
>bolts for lasguns
Mon keigh crap.
I hope there will be a Drukhari DLC.
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>>98088974
that is true, an anon here painted them in these colors as well
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repainting a realm of battle board for a dark grey necron board (spraying them black)

these skull pits suck, I plan to just cover them with some large crystal scatter terrain but I had an alternate idea

should I fill them in with some form of silver liquid and make them some form of pits filled with molten necrodermis? would fit the board and add something a little bit unique
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>>98088986
Drukhari are always the last faction to get added to any game and it almost always kills the game if it wasn't already on the way out.
Rogue Trader is a very rare exception.
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>>98088637
Reminder that Eldar find Humans to be abhorrently repulsive on all levels, be it physical, mental, or spiritual.
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>>98088977
The Omnissiah is specifically the physical manifestation of the cult mechanicus' tripartite god. The other two parts being the Motive Force and the Machine God.

The official admech position is that the Emperor is the Omnissiah, but this is contradicted by both the dark mech and a man of iron who claims to have met the Omnissiah.

I think it makes a lot of sense for the Void Dragon to be the Omnissiah. What else would the physical/material aspect of the machine god look like? But this isn't confirmed anywhere else in the lore.
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>>98088763
And Craftworld Morrigan(ifkyk)
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>>98089000
Reminder that Eldar were so freaky that they birthed Slaanesh.
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>>98089000
That's just a Craftworld thing. But they're all intentionally repressed spiritually, psychically, emotionally, and sexually. Never step one foot of the path laid before them.
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>>98088878
Back in the day few units had toughness that high. Most vehicles had armor values
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>>98089003
The reason I think the VD to not be the omnissiah is because it fails outside of Mars. Why would you have machine spirits etc. across the galaxy if he was the cause? As a shard his influence clearly barely even affects the surface of Mars and surely it would be malicious? Yes the Labyrinth is malicious but msot of that was due to the crap from the HH.

Admech says big E is the Omnissiah due to it being how the treaty of Mars of works. The most logical form is that the machine spirits are just rudimentary AI from the DAoT that have been elevated to soem degree due to the collective worship of machines and this gives rise to a God, the Omissiah. The void dragon shit is literally just crap thrown in from the 5th ed Necron retcon to expand upon the silver dragon. It clearly doesnt mesh with the wider setting and if thats the actual reason GW chooses then it cheapens the faction and setting of any interesting parts surrounding the related topics. It would reduce it to the meme shown before which is basically just 'LMAO XD you actually worship a xenos'.
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>>98089030
>Why would you have machine spirits etc. across the galaxy if he was the cause?
The Motive Force is what gives machines their machine spirits, not the Omnissiah.
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Drukhari action RPG when? They even have dark souls mechanics built into their lore with soul collection and regeneration from death.
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>>98089037
nice saturnine
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>>98089041
Never, lul
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>>98089041
after my Necromunda open-world BotW collectathon/exploration game with mirror's edge parkour.
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>>98089041
Right after the Nemesis system becomes public domain
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>>98089037
I like to imagine this he’s lower half is on the other side of the pauldrons and this is meant to be kabeshiri.
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>>98089041
Right after Dark Messiah-like Chaos game
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>>98089040
And why does that arise? The faith is that the Omnissiah brings this about. Furthermore it does nothing to validate the VD being the god.
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I’m looking for an old digital painting that showed an enforcer and an Escher gang member pointing bolter pistols at each other’s heads. I think it might have been an official piece, but I’m not certain.
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>>98089061
do I really have to break out the meme diagram to explain trinitarian autism
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>>98088643
According to Mike Brooks any male Eldar who joins the Banshees transitions to Female wbile being inducted.
So at least 50% of Howling Banshees are trans.
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>>98089098
>According to Mike Brooks
Let me stop you right there
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>>98089098
Don't stretch the text further than what it explicitly states.
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>>98089103
>Let me stop you right there
You can try, but you'll fail.
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>>98089089
Youre not getting the point Im making. What implicates the VD being the Omnissiah. Youre also being pretentious as the terms in your meme triangle are often used interchangably within the setting. Techpriests ask the Omnissiah to bless the machine to repeair/make it work etc.This is still sidestepping the entire first reply to you I gave for why the VD thing is retarded and doesnt address the faith giving rise to a god aspect of the setting.
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>>98089098
Incubus tomboy girlfriend when
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>>98089098
Do they not just wear boobplate as theaspect is female? As Id imagine the reverse is true for the male themed aspects.
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>>98089108
Da Big Dakka states that all Banshees are female because Eldar biology reshaoes itself based on their societal role. As such any Male who joins the Banshees will undergo a transition to Female, just as any male Dark Eldar would if they become a Succubus.
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>>98089117
It's ok to admit when you are confused or don't understand something, ESL-kun...

>The Adeptus Mechanicus professes loyalty to a tripartite deity known as the Machine God, whose component parts are the Machine God itself, creator of the universe; the Motive Force, that which moves all; and the Omnissiah, the Machine God incarnate. The Tech-Priests generally hold the Emperor to be the Omnissiah, although this belief is by no means universal.
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>>98089098
>any male Eldar who joins the Banshees transitions to Female wbile being inducted
>So at least 50% of Howling Banshees are trans.
that doesn't follow
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>>98089129
You are adding interpretation to a quote that does not explicitly say that. They identify as female and do not feel restricted by their biology. There is no implications of biological or bodily alterations, only identoty and gender presentation. It is no different than the war mask all Eldar don already or the masques of the Harlequins.
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>>98089139
Eldar have no records of sexism or gender separation in roles. As such it can be assumed that there is an even split of Male and Female Eldar who opt to become Howling Banhees, and the same applies to all other Eldar units.
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>>98089136
>Misses the point again
You havtn made a case for why the VD is the Omnissiah which is the entire point. You also ignore how clearly Machien god and Omnissiah are used interchangably very often.

Provide a claim for why the VD is involved in anyway and why its not redditfaggotry or fuck off 8ed newfag.
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>>98089151
Are you having a stroke?
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>>98089153
>No argument related to the original topic again.
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>>98089161
Are you having a stroke?
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>>98089166
Not that poster but fuck you for not directly addressing what he said.
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>>98088997
At 4:50 he has a solution.
https://youtu.be/Y-FrIDK3J0g&t=290
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Is it too edgy to hang a dead body from the Boss Pole? What about strapping a prisoner to the Waaagh banner?
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>they're already powercreeping the detachments
This is gonna be such a shitshow.
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>>98089179
they have a dead dwarf on a pole which is arguably over the top edgy because they shaved his beard so I don’t see why 40K orks couldn’t get up to similar acts of barbarism.
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>>98089179
A body hanging from a boss pole is going to be way to awkward and bulky.
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>>98089089
>l*tin model
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>>98089212
Only (old) FW can do that
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>>98089217

I was thinking just the upper torso or head, or maybe impaled.
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>>98089179
bosspoles are too small and weedy to convincingly support a full on dead body. banner nobs you should be good with, but it would be better if its bisected or better yet a votann like in >>98089212 so they don’t add weight (in universe) to the banner itself.
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>>98089089
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>>98089089
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>>98089212
>top edgy
meh
>Votann's torso used as figurehead on a Raider/Ravager.
>He is kept alive by the heamunculi mechanism.
>In combat, he yells at the Drukhari enemies to put him out of his misery
THIS would be edgy.
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>>98088618
What killed the hype?
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>>98089145
>There is no implications of biological or bodily alterations, only identoty and gender presentation.
Pretty incredible that they follow a dichotomy that, among living beings, only existed among 21st century humans otherwise.
They did create Slaanesh however, so I guess it checks out.
>>98089150
>Eldar have no records of sexism or gender separation in roles.
We have always been at war with Eastasia.
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>>98089271
there’s nothing over the top edgy for votann because they have no honor, no soul, and no care for beards. for a true dwarf, and especially a dwarf slayer who attempting to reclaim his honor, its a horrific feeling of dread knowing you were knocked down by a bunch of retarded orcs and had your beard shaved, and then you were slowly tortured to death instead of dying gloriously in battle.
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>>98089272
You can't kill hype that never existed in the first place. So far it's all been half-hearted member berries.
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>>98089170
You don't think the god of technology imprisoned underneath Mars has anything to do with the technology worship on Mars? Nothing at all? Just a coincidence? I suppose the Cult of the Dragon is a nothingburger as well.

>from the Dragon’s dreams came the first machines of the priests of Mars. Without the Dragon there would have been no Mechanicum
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>>98089298
Thanks for reminding me how boring dwarves are, and how childish you have to be to recognize them.
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>>98089298
>Dwarfs
>Honor
Lul
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cegorach is actually tzeench
and also the deceiver

all according to keikakku
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>>98089326
>cegorach is actually tzeentch
Yes
>and also the deceiver
No
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>>98089326
Just like Vashtor is also Vaul
And the Void Dragon

Just like Khaine is also Khorne
And the Burning One

Just like Ynnead is also Slaanesh
And the Nightbringer

Just like Nurgle is also Isha
And the Flayed God
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>>98088673
Ever use an impact gun?
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>>98089212
>shaved the beard and nailed it to his chest
Modern warhammer is fucking pussy ass shit, cuz this is tame
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>>98089358
The Eldar 'Gods' are just fragments of the Chaos Gods, yes, but they are not C'tan.
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>>98089371
Cite your source immediately, because I assure you this shit isn't in any Eldar codex.
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>>98089362
Most models are going to be pretty limited because they have to be sold in what is essentially a toy store after all.
But there's some gnarliness here and there, the aos ghouls come to mind
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>>98089371
Ynnari looks chaotic enough but I think this is bullshit.
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>>98089380
>toy store
Since when are hobby stores "toy stores".
But you're right that thing is made as "family friendly" as possible. (Or whatever term exists for the corpo style of avoiding offensive things that would affect the brand negatively in the eyes of idk investors?)
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Who's got the best and worst Faction Focus so far?
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>>98089371
The Ctan are just the Chaos God shaped holes cast into the material realm. They have existed since the beginning of time in anticipation of their reflections. Where Asur split the realms apart, The Ctan were cleaved from their immaterial echoes, then shattered so that the Gods could be whole.
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>>98089398
>Best
Space Marines or TSons
>Worst
Tau or DEldar
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>>98089398
>Who won
11th edition
>Who lost
Players in general
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>>98089389
ynnead was a lost chance.
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>>98088873
All the datasheets they have previewed for the Armageddon models are the versions that are included in that box, not what will appear in the 11e codexes later. Besides the fact that we know there is another warboss model coming that has an identical build to this one *and* an alternate build with power klaw, we also saw them fuck up and accidentally post the codex version of the Wartrakk datasheet that has it as an attachable support unit for warbikers, then change it to the stand alone sheet it needs to be for Armageddon as that box doesn't have any warbikers for it to attach to.
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>>98089098
>According to Mike Brooks
Not canon.
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>bigboss doesn't get the warboss keyword
annoying if they don't errata bully boyz specifically to include him
still gonna be pretty good in green tide though
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>>98089145
>"Xurzuli herself had only taken on a female form in the last few decades since ascending to the rank of succubus, in the same way as every Asuryani warrior who explored the warrior aspect of the Howling Banshees was female."
It explicitly states that the character "took on a female form", as in underwent a physical change, and that ALL Howling Banshees were female "in the same way". So yeah, Brooks is outright stating that males who join Howling Banshees take on the physical female form. This, of course, is contradicted by codices which state that Banshees are only "predominately female". The truly funny part is that most of the trans people Brooks is pandering to would almost assuredly object to the notion that assuming a feminine gender role requires being biologically female.
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>>98089398
They are all terrible, rules peaked in 4th
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swooping hawks and warp spiders are way cooler than banshees
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>>98089453
nta but trans people would not object to Brooks' BS as 99% of them think feminization is hot and the point of being trans.
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>>98089358
>>98089371
Eldar gods are separate entities you retards
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>>98089453
>>98089464
Trans people wouldn't object to Brooks' book because they don't give a shit about Eldar in the first place.
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>>98089467
Trvke
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Has there been reports of some rogue special education teacher brought over wh40k models to entretain "gifted" kids by making them build and paint models?
I had something of a vision about a news report of a teacher arrested for cturning a SpecEd classroom into a labor camp for painting 40k minis.
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>>98089453
>most of the trans people Brooks is pandering to would almost assuredly object to the notion that assuming a feminine gender role requires being biologically female.
Not really, that's why they take hormones.
Anyway, why do Banshees have to be female in the first place?
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>>98089481
>Anyway, why do Banshees have to be female in the first place?
Howling Banshees are based on the Banshees from Eldar myth, who were the daughters of Khaine and Morai-Heg.
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>>98089481
Banshees are female spirits from celtic/british mythology/folklore.
Also in 40k lore, Howling Banshee's origin comes from Morai-Hegg wanting to see the future of the gods, but needed her own blood to do so, only a god can harm one another, so Morai-Hegg asked Khaine, her husband to cut her hand so she could drink her blood and know the future.
Khaine, being surprisingly reasonable and not a typical douche like he is, told Morai "No." because he didn't want to hurt her.
After this Morai then sent her DAUGHTERS, the banshees to torment their father, Khaine, and after few days Khaine agreed to make the Banshees stop.

Khaine cut off her hand, and in return Morai granted the aspect of the Banshee to Khaine.
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>>98089464
Feminized =/= being biological female. Brooks is accidently arguing for biological essentialism, because it heavily implies that gender roles require certain physical anatomy. He's a retard who can't even get his own side's talking points right and shit up established lore trying.
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>>98089481
Hormones don't make you female, anon.
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>>98089547
I know that but they don't.
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This thread reeks
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So what I'm getting out of this is that femboy Howling Banshees are canon
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>>98089563
In the established lore? Yes. In Mike Brooks' fanfiction, no, they are turned into women. Brooks is trying to take away your femboys.
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Eldarfags are truly insufferable
>No we don't care about BL shitting on us!
>But we'll still spend time arguing about how it makes us mad!
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>>98089585
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What's up with this eldar hater spamming the thread? Is he a Salamanders player or something?
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>>98089585
>noooo you can't shit on mike brooks for fun, that means you're maaaad!
Blow it out your ass, queer.
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>>98089585
I'm not an Eldarfag, this is equal opportunity Mike Brooks hate.
>>98089591
__ ____ ____?
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hey /40kg/

I have a very unimportant and kind of casual tournament tomorrow, this is essentially my list minus the infantry.

But I have a last minute decision to make on the crisis suits.

Should I take
2 Sunforge unit
1 Fireknife unit (double missiles)
1 Starscythe unit (double burst)

or do I take
1 sunforge unit
1 fire knife unit (double plasma)
2 starscythe units (1 double burst, 1 double flamer)

But then give one of my commanders the 3 unit redeploy enhancement, playing kauyon.

It gives up firepower to essentially double my strategic reserves. I'm personally leaning towards firepower with more stuff on the field even if its less flexible just because It still allows me to put the second commander a sunforge unit, the burst cannon unit and a gunship of my choice in reserve, where as with less firepower, i could put all my suits and 2 gunships or 3 suit units and 3 gunships in reserve, which could be really useful, or could get screened out.

But keeping all my suits in a manta and dropping them is basically the theme of the list so dropping some fire power might be worth it for rule of cool. Fuck man its a hard decision.
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>>98089592
Tons of people here dislike Eldar, it’s par for the course.
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>>98089610
nah it's mostly just decalnigger, he was caught multiple times samefagging eldar hateposting
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>>98089595
I find this image unbelievably hot and I hate that I do
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>>98089618
You’re clueless tourist
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>>98089638
Find a wild BPD whore and feed her a sandwich
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>>98089641
this nigga lives in arkansas
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>>98089653
Gov. Fuckabee is so hot
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>>98089585
You don't need to be an eldarfag to be able to tell that Mike Brooks' shit is retarded faggotry that nobody truely asked for or even wanted.
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>>98089585
If I was an Eldarfag that had to put up with Mike Brooks' weird troon and lesbian fetishes I'd be pissed to. Brooks would be a "decent" enough writer if he stopped the retarded obligatory soapboxing in his stories, his troll doll looking ass trying to get praise from twitterkeks and plebbitors.
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I like the big boss, but i guess it wouldn't be as good running it in war horde due to already having sustained hits
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>>98089592
I like both Salamanders and Eldar, dunno where you'd get the connection that one can't like the other from.
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>>98089641
Leeman Russ takes fat red wolf dick
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I was planning on putting together some nobz this weekend - should I wait given there is rumors about base size increasing / we don't know loadouts for 11th, and instead work on my beastboss on squigasaur? Thoughts? Thanks, I am new and retarded
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>>98089592
It's been pointed out before that the 'Eldar hater' is himself an Eldar player falseflagging in order to generate and steer more conversations about them. He intentionally uses incendiary sources like Brooks as well as blatantly incorrect 'info' in order to make the 'hate' come across as toxic and misinformed, and then once he's "beaten" he'll simply stop the 'hate' and join into the ensuing proper conversation about Eldar as just another anon.
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>>98089558
This dude is so vomitous and cringe, total diddler vibes.
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>>98089689
>t.EldarPlayersMind
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>>98089691
You should just stick to being gay instead
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>>98089691
put the nobs together but don't base them.
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>>98089326
the two clowns are actually gork and mork and out orks against one another to take them out of the galactic scene as united krorks
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>>98089708
But nobz are already based, anon
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>>98089681
Honestly I think people like that should have their rights taken away
Not like the English had any rights to begin with, but still.
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>>98089693
Just an fyi, I said as a joke like a year ago and people keep parroting it as evidence of some nefarious scheme
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>>98089693
actual schizophrenia on display
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Why does everybody here hate Mike Brooks?
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>>98089685
It's a meme because the heckin wholesome Sallies still did their job and killed Eldar indiscriminately.
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>>98089733
Because he's an annoying faggot and his books suck
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>>98089721
>>98089732
He confessed in /twg/ back when Total War 40k got revealed and Eldar were confirmed for it
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>>98089733
He admitted to sucking a trannies dick and writes about male Eldar fellatio amongst other detestable things.
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>>98089733
Because he is a faggot?
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>>98089733
GIve me a second to find the list, unironically.
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>>98089751
>>98089750
>>98089743
how does that affect you?
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>>98089733
His books are just kind of boring and poorly researched and he writes bad endings. So not much different than most of the less popular black library writers. But he also like sliding little bits of modern day political commentary into his stories that stick out like a sore thumb and feel like really awkward non sequiturs and for some people that are really big on culture war bullshit that's the biggest issue to them.
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>>98089756
I prefer to not have the depraved and clinically unhinged write the lore for a setting I enjoy, he either renounces his ways or gets baker-acted.
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>>98089756
His contributions to 40k lower the quality of my hobby experience. I hope this helps clear things up for you.
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>>98089733
he shoves his politics into the books he writes
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>>98089733
His books are poorly written and juvenile. And he's also a pozzed libtard faggot.
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>lorefags
>bookfags
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>>98089756
It affects me because he's an annoying faggot and I am annoyed. And when I read his books I have a negative experience and my time is wasted because they suck.
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This is the best thread in ages
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>>98089794
>>98089759
Pretty much this. The first one is the only crime of his that should matter. But the second one seems to be the thing people fixate on.
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>>98089810
lmao
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>>98089810
And that's a bad thing
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>>98089810
How does one author cause so much butthurt? I'll never know, I cant read
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>>98089817
It's weird that people get mad when writer's politics affect their writing. Politics is basically the world around us and affects everything, so not sure how you could write a book that wouldn't be considered political to some degree.
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>>98089733
Mediocre writer that keeps using 40k books to soapbox his politics like a retard. Eldar are his latest victims and he somehow managed to make the idea of pirate space elves lame and gay, he's a genuine hack.
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>>98089823
I watched this movie called Hail Mary with Ryan Gosling and was pleased at how little political nonsense was in it outside of the scientists mostly being 50 shades of excrement. It was a long fucking movie and I nearly teared up when the rock thing was dying. You can make decent media without all the political trash even in today’s climate.
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>>98089823
ask me how I can instantly tell you're a burger
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tau are early 2000's neo-cons
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>>98089823
>this book on math is political because there's an example on how to calculate tax, therefore me being a tedious bore who shits my ideology everywhere is completely justified and normal
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>>98089823
It's not that him writing politically is a bad thing, it's that it is clumsy and awkwardly inserted. Like having Orks comment on gendered pronouns or randomly placing Sragon Allad in Necromunda or Drukhari internal monologue about gender transitioning in a society that doesn't really have gender roles or making homosexuality repressed by Craftworlds who don't actually have that taboo.
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>>98089817
People fixate on the latter because Mike legit said he puts his faggoty identity politic shit into his books to "own da chuds".
He's fucking poison, actively adding dogshit woke garbage into 40k purely to piss people off.
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>>98089823
>not sure how you could write a book that wouldn't be considered political to some degree.
This is the argument that stoops to the levels of drooling retards who are consumed by the never-ending spiteful distraction of politics, who have been taught to not enjoy and learn from fiction but to analyze and undermine it, lest the tales of heroism, compassion, and cooperation lead to the masses discovering the tyrants of the real world are deserving of the same horrid fates that befall the tyrants of fiction.
The key to good fiction isn't to insert politics, or even the politics of the politics, it's to go past all that and just have a proper story.
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>>98089823
>everything is political
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>>98089817
People inserting their retarded politics and insane worldview into a book and affecting the lore does matter.

>>98089823
That's the "everything is political" BS that relies on grossly expanding the definition of politics to encompass literally everything that exists. And it only really makes sense if you have a totalitarian ideology and subscribe to the gramscian school of thought that any set of values is political. Not all human experience and action or values is political.

This is made worse when the writer is simply preaching at you or haphazardly inserting stuff that really makes no sense at all in the context he's writing.
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>>98089872
>lest the tales of heroism, compassion, and cooperation lead to the masses discovering the tyrants of the real world are deserving of the same horrid fates that befall the tyrants of fiction.
The "everyone I don't like is Voldemort" experiment has been tried already.
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>>98089859
Are any of the old 3rd / 4th edition tau models worth anything? Ive still got a few and was thinking of just giving them away
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>>98089892
Probably yeah
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>>98089823
I dont have to deal with strangers weird political ideas, and even less in my hobby about space aliens and space soldiers fighting each other.

This is why the people that choose a faction or writes his fanfics (even working for GW as BL retards) trying to shoehorn his political beliefs are the worse of the worst.
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40k is a satire and therefore has political content how can you all be so mad about this? Specially when James, the owner of this franchise, hire those people and therefore are ok with whatever they write...
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I like Eldar because their women are hot and I want to fuck them.
I hate Mike Brooks because he couldn't even write gay Eldar properly.
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I've been arguing against the "everything is political" anon but let me throw some fuel on the fire:
40k is expressly political satire. It is political. Politics is in it. There, I said it.
Mike Brooks is still a retard because he just shoves current year into it instead of engaging with the political themes of the 40k universe. It would be like if in the middle of In the Name of the Rose, Umberto Eco (very political, very good writer) had a monk look at the reader and say "In hundreds of years there will be someone named Adolf Hitler. He sucks."
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>>98089872
It's all because of Gramsci and the retarded notion that all value statements are political. To them, heroism is political, values are political, morals are political, ect. Their ideology tries to encompass all human actions and has opinions about the fundamental nature of man that runs at odds with reality. Before, shit like the knight slaying a dragon was just an intrinsic thing about values that was divorced from the operation of the state. Most people accepted things as just given truths. But then these dummies came along and decided that just the way people behaved was something the state should get evolved in and that human nature is just shaped by the environment and thus can be changed.
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>>98089823
Having a political opinion is like having an asshole.
Everyone has one, but people don't want to see it.
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The ghaz is a parody of thatcher has been debunked hasn't it?
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Name a book that isn't political.
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>>98089810
>thread shits on Brooks for being a hack
Kino.
I'll never pass up an opportunity to call Brooks a pozz.
>>98089823
Politics being in writing would be fine if it wasn't for the fact that Brooks is so shit at soapboxing that it makes the story trash. Brooks' random blurbs of "muh -insert current year politics or extremely obvious allegory for plebbit smoothbrain takes about minorities here-" are jank as hell.
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>>98089924
Jackie Chan
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>>98089911
>it's le satire
I don't care. If you try to preach about your dogshit political opinions, no matter what they are, I WILL call you a faggot regardless.
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>>98089917
Politics is not the state. Politics is the relations of people with each other.

Obviously, the values of people determine how they interact with each other.
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>>98089923
It's been bunked
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People don't want to be reminded of current day identity politics in their escapist activity.
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>>98089929
notorious CCP glazer
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>>98089773
>baker-acted
Floridian detected
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>>98089911
>James is right with faggot political views
Ok, don't care, didn't ask, don't try to feed me that shit and that pollute my favorite faction with it. Simple as. Take your political bullshit where someone would care about.
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>>98089946
You have to be if you want to be successful in China
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how belisarius cawl felt when he invented 1 inch taller space marines
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>>98089916
>40k is expressly political satire

This is the problem with your argument right here.

If you actually read through the books like I have there isn't any biting political satire. Books like Flight of the Eisenstein for example aren't satirizing anything. The narrative is played completely straight and serious and follows the self contained rules of the setting without nodding to any political ideology.

And I'm not shitting on you, but we need to stop conflating having themes with having politics. 40k books do touch on things like religion, human nature, utopianism, ect. But it's certainly not presented in a way that's satirizing anything. Warhammer does have messages in it that can be related to politics, true, but I don't think it's a satire, or at least it hasn't been for a very very long time.

>>98089924
Green eggs and ham.
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Severe lack of, uh, painted models in this thread. Although really that shouldn't surprise me.

I think BT should get a unique Dreadnought Ancient. Especially since it kind of feels like GW is trying to make Ancients one of BT's *things*.
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>>98089924
I was going to say picrel, but then realized that there are people on twitter who would unironically get offended by the cartoon child having slanted eyes.
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>>98089971
Don't forget the legions of retards who would insist it's DEI for having a slanted eye child.
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Warhammer forty thousand
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Which Primarchs would suck dick and eat shit?
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tzaangor attack inbound
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>>98089989
Mortarion.
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>>98089989
Do you have to ask?
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>>98089934
Politics is collective action in a group, society, or nation in regards to the distribution of power, resources, and the management of competing interests, "who gets what, when, and how". I made the mistake of getting a political science degree.

Politics is not this broad all encompassing thing people keep trying to make it. It's specific. People's values can affect politics, but that doesn't mean values are political. That's messing up the order. Politics IS about the state, it's not about all human interaction. Two people deciding what ice cream to get isn't political even if it's human action.
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>>98089989
Leman Russ
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>>98089989
Fulgrim but you don't have to defeat him for him to do that, if anything you'd have a hard time stopping him.
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>>98090000
quads of truth
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>>98089961
1 inch taller marines were the easy part and he made them in a rush after perfecting the slightly longer bolter, that was the truly hard work, also because he had to work with one hand all the time
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>>98089989
i have this dream about seeing girlyman as homelander someday against some ig comissar.
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>>98089989
Russ, obviously
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>>98089969
I'd love to but I need to figure out what colour to paint the fucking scales as its driving me mad, trying to pair it with bright blue in the recesses
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>>98090000
>Politics IS about the state
statist nigger
I spit on you
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>>98089993
More Rubrics and less birds (and bird robots)
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Why the fuck would the primarch of the dawgs want to suck dick? Isn't blood & dark angels the gayest of the lot?
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>>98089969
Have been having an odd past couple months. Hoping to get back to painting this week, but I also have Starcraft stuff coming soon to build as well.
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>>98090022
We have a few children in here who get off on grade school tier jokes
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>>98090022
First of all, the blood angels primarch is fucking dead.

Second of all, the Lion, while blatantly homosexual, is a top only, and doesn't recieve.
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>>98089969
Painting projects on hold while I make a mess of my hobby area with a scratchbuild project.
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>>98088675
>eldar vs admech
just how fucking hard is the eldar playing gonna have to throw to make that seem like a close game?
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>>98090045
Eldar's the worst army in the game by a pretty large margin right now
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>>98090045
weird way to out yourself as a nogames
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>>98089989
curze would do it as long as he saw it on a vision first
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>>98090045
Anon?
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Why does everybody here hate Space Wolves?
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>>98090039
What are you planning on transporting in it?
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>>98090076
Think you’re confusing them with Eldar
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When was the last time 40k had a story take place in a beach?
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>>98090057
AdMech is honestly not far off. They're both a far cry from the last time these two played and they were the two best armies in the game.
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>>98090087
The Infinite And The Divine had a beach.
Orikan killed a bunch of Eldar on one.
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>>98090076
Probably because of the decal enthusiast. I sent a friend of mine (who is a space wolves fan) my collage entry lasy month and he wanted to know why i chose that chapter getting wrecked and didn't get around to explaining why
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>>98090080
Pointlessly (thematically), a squad of Kommandos who have been waiting assembled and primed for their ride to be ready.
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Anyone know what units are essential to a space wolves army? Ive seen a few lists and there always seems to be 2 massive terminator squads and a bunch of named characters
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>>98090076
the resident lolcow/sperg is autistically obsessed with space wolves so people jump on any chance to fuck with him
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>>98090096
That's what I was thinking despite it being pointless, preferably all painted in blood axes colours. Would the practical option be a 10 man nobz squad with a warboss, or a mix of breakas / tankbustas / flash gitz?
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>obisidan protocol
Well this new tabletop wargame has completely killed any desire I had for collecting tau now.
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what's the army for me if I like terminators?
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>>98090088
>even at their lowest, the Eldar are still better than the woofs
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>>98090120
Space Wolves
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>>98090127
other than space wolves?
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>>98090039
Good progress. I recall your Chinook from a previous thread. Ive also scratch built an ork vehicle back in 7th and had homebrew rules for it but its so similar to a Gorkanaught when that came out I just used those rules for it.
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>>98090122
It’s been known for some time that the Wolves Sagas detachments and their boasts are absolute trash and need a major fix, we just use Space Marine Detachments and rape everyone.
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>>98090120
Dark Angels or Deathguard. They have the most bespoke Terminators.
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>>98090132
Just make a custom Space Marine chapter.
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>>98090136
>42,25%
>rape everyone
40keks
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>>98090120
space wolves, dark angels, and death guard all have very good special terminator units. also black templars can make very good use of assault terminators.
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>>98090122
We've been over this. The stats for space wolves are screwy because nobody uses their actual codex Detachments at all because they're bad. Fluffy and fun, but still bad compared to the Codex Space Marine options. So all their actual play stats are listed under the space marines category way up above.
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>>98090104
In an edition where it had rules, it was open-topped, so likely something with a decent shooting profile. Flash Gitz maybe?

>>98090134
Thanks.
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>>98090136
>Space Marine Detachments and rape everyone
Apparently not, since vanilla Marines are in 19th place.
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>>98090139
>Just make a custom Space Marine chapter.
Hopefully they get a ton of 1DP detachment options in their codex so this becomes a lot easier to do.
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>>98090156
Obviously some lesser chapters are affecting the numbers
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>>98090088
Who are the top 12 factions? What site is this?
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>>98090157
Then you're playing basic bitch marines, not space wolves lmao
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>>98089969
I kinda want to paint the bases on my Eldar Goblin Green to go with the basing, but all my other armies have black bases. Should I go for it?
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>>98090120
necrons
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>>98089041
>>98089048
>>98089051
>>98089055
>>98089060
>inquisitor rpg
>deathwatch x-com
Total war 40k
>mfw all 40 vidya I've ever wanted have been announced, just have to not die prematurely before they release
I would like a chaos marine NL First claw type of squad with a ton of banter like a SM Gears of war type game and a sniper elite vindicare game too but not as much
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i guess i really am starting a third ork army
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>>98090177
stop ban evading
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>>98090177
>we
why are you including yourself in this, you don't play any games lol
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>>98090168
Hutber. Their stats are a little screwy sometimes though. You gotta check multiple sources to get accurate idea and it doesn't really matter when play rates and tournament attendance are as low as they are right now anyway.
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>>98090177
Don't you have 90 bans that you need to sit through? Stop ban evading.
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>>98090173
If you want to. Personally I wouldn't give a shit unless your other armies use the same bases.
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>>98089380
Also warcry had a model of a guy with his face flayed off
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>>98090205
>they sell well so they deserve to win everything!
you're such a fucking idiot, my god
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>>98090132
Grok was adamant that Dark Angels are the best use of Terminators for 2k pts games in 10th.
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>>98090186
What units do you have in your first two? Why a third? Did you sell the first two?
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The Dark Angels color scheme is ugly.

There, I said it.
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>>98090220
Hellblasters status?
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>>98089003
>>98089030
the void dragon has been talked about so much and hyped up to such degree that I hope they retcon him into being a nearly complete c'tan and not a shard at this point, too weaksauce for the legend honestly
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>>98090223
Which one they have 3
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>>98090220
>retard that buys 4chan cunnycoins talking about business sense
can't make this shit up
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>>98090205
Deathwatch is #1 right now though
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>>98090205
>Deathwatch - #1 - 134 players
>Space Marines - #19 - 777 players
>Blood Angels - #20 - 354 players
>Black Templar - #21 - 159 players
>Dark Angels - #24 - 350 players
>Space Wolves - #27 - 238 players
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>>98090039

The Chinoork is cool. I assume the reason the Orks don't have a dedicated flying transport is that it would be OP as fuck.
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>>98090235
I don’t want to play them
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>>98090220
If they sell well without needing to win, it only makes sense to make other factions who don't sell well without winning be the winners.
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>>98090205
>>98090220
>>98090236
Marines will always have a higher power level than their win rate suggests as marine lists are largely piloted by the unwashed hordes of marinefags.
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>>98090244
True true, I always forget many noobiciles play them very poorly.
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>>98090228
All of them.
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>>98089789
>>98089794
>>98089839
The Lion was great and it had zero pozzed shit. You're all gay crybabies.
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>>98090253
Cool with me as long as you don't hypocritically play Iron Hands, Black Templars, or Raven Guard.
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>>98090244
>>98090252
>muh noobs
Noobs don't play in tournaments, they legit don't even know that fucking tourneys even exist.
Marines are actually balanced faction ironically enough, and people are just butthurt over it.
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>>98090211
the decalfag is currently in a puddle of his own piss crying upon seeing grok has betrayed him.
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>>98090205
>>98090220
Put the trip back on.
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>>98088784
Is the art AI? Those don't look like the current DG minis.
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>>98090039
Looks cool. The gun is very well done.
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>>98090265
I don't play any of those.

I'm still thinking about starting a "successor" "chapter" for Dark Angels. It's still all one legion so new colors are even kosher lore wise
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>>98090265
Black Templars honestly just look like Heresy Dark Angels. Fantasy knight aesthetic and black armor.
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>>98090307
Deathwing terminators are atrociously ugly, the DW knights are a bit better with the green tabards but the main army with that dark green and tabards and shit? Pure kino. Also ravenwing are cool.

DA successor could be cool though, they should get one that's more popular.
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>>98090356
>DA successor could be cool though, they should get one that's more popular
Are they the only first founding chapter (except space wolves and iron hands lol) without ANY at least somewhat popular or notable successors?
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>>98090277
SW were still ranked second, it’s not a competition.
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>>98090368
the whole "actually a legion made up of a bunch of chapters" thing is really cool but really made a dent in terms of getting a popular successor. BT and Charcaradons are really popular because they really separate themselves from their original chapters to be something really unique.
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>>98088618
This invader atv is tiny
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>>98090396
stop ban evading, faggot
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>>98090396
>failed artist
An artist's goal is to evoke emotions.
I'd say he did a pretty decent job if you responded that quickly.
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>>98090270
Yes they do, actually. The vast majority of tournament games have the lowest ranked players as Marines playing their favourite Iron hands or whatever. It's why Space Marines have such a high rep.
However, if you ever look into the data you can see that Blades of Ultramar (AKA Ultramarines) is at 54%, which would be the second best army right now.

All the data on Marines is Ultramarines being a top 5 army in the game brought down by shitters playing the Vulkan detachment and getting a 36% winrate with it
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>>98090411
hellblasters?
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>>98090414
This guy knows his stuff
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>>98090411
which part of "nobody fucking wants you here" don't you get, you autistic faggot
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>>98090411
you being a nuisance and then immediately going “oh my gosh, we need to stay on topic! just ignore me! ” as soon as you get pushback is becoming really repetitive and very obvious.
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Tsons bros, how we feeling?
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>>98090449
I don't like Tzaagnors
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>>98090449
I do like Tzaangors
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>>98090449
I love chaos in my chaos army. wish it had less marines though.
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>>98090467
>demonic
nigga you’re literally a heretic
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>>98090449
I'll eventually buy a box of Tzaangors and paint them really well just to spite the haters
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>>98090449
Fuck Tzaangors. And beastmen in general.
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>>98090467
what's wrong with you? why are you like this? seriously asking...
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>>98090479
Cute gif, love me some Pokémon
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>>98090264
>The book about the closeted homosexual-themed legion is the least queer of Brooks' works
I guess he just felt space marines were gay enough already
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Can I ask somthing?

Why is every single fucking used mini glued together by someone who's never put anything together before in their life? What is wrong with you people? It's like you just squirt the cheapest gorilla glue all over your stupid fucking minature and call it quits. Halve the time shit isn't even connected right. It's like glueing the arm on a fuckign space marine is too much for these fucking niggers. I'm not expecting Eavy metal quality, and I could deal with the occasional guy who put shit together wrong, but it's like EVERY SINGLE fucking model I find was put together BY AN ABSOLUTE MOUTH BREATHING RETARD FAGGOT!!! Especially all of the vehicles! It's like god fucking damn, how can you not tell that the square part on the leg of the Sentinel goes into the fucking square hole! But no! These fucking dumbasses glued the two protruding bits of the leg on the Sentinel together and the other leg had both bits with the holes. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!!!?!?! Can some part of your dumbass frankenstein basedlinnieal zoomer chud tranny brains follow this shit!?! I don't believe that there are this many 12 year olds putting together these models. It's grown as men glueing legs on backwards with liquid cement.
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>>98090512
Have you not realized how completely stupid like 75% of the population is? These people are useless eaters who can’t properly build a Lego kit. Take a bow my friend, we’re the mentally elite here.
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>>98090512
I once bought a second hand landraider that had been assembled with both superglue AND plastic glue. Never been more baffled or angry in my life.
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If this is 1 point and rubricae phalanx is 2 points, that'll be a fun combo
add in the exalted sorcerer on foot's ability to rebuild Rubrics and you've got some nice regeneration
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>>98090512
Just because you're blessing with being above 120iq dosent mean the rest of us are.
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>>98090512
yeah people are morons, most of my models were purchased used and yeah most of them were globbed with glue, caked in primer, and bits that shouldn't have been glued were glued in.

but generally people who sell models second hand are getting out of the hobby because its not for them and they just wanted a power fantasy and realizing that they actually have to do work is too much a barrier of entry to these plebs.
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Anyone know how much the anniversary autarch kit costs?
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>>98090532
True in my personal experience the moment people realise they have to paint more than 5 models is the "jump of faith" they stay or they leave and never look back...
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>>98090512
Post 3.
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>>98090525
>rubricae phalanx is 2 points
It's one of their best detachments, I could see it be 3 points
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>>98090596
>It's one of their best
its the strongest outside of grand coven and I could see the argument for leaving it at 3 but I have a feeling it'll be a 2 pointer
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>>98088799
Units can have Support and a Leader. Leaders have their abilities all the time, Support only have their abilities while in a unit.

Which is probably why they removed the Support tag from the Armageddon datasheet for the Wartrakk. Without a warbiker squad it'd lose the supression ability if it was Support.
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>>98090512

Should you use super glue for attaching the model to the base or is plastic glue still better?
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>>98090449
>Tzaangors have battleline
>can theoretically field 120 tzaangors now
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>>98090620
today you realized tzangors get more support than kroot
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>>98090394
They should make a chapter entirely composed of Fallen that were redeemed by Lion'el Johnson.
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>>98090614
Most model ranges don't have enough different HQs to justify the distinction. Both flavors of Marines, SoBs with the hospitaler and imagifier, but what the fuck else?
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>>98090236
a small number of very skilled deathwatch autists is not the same as our army being strongest. Its actually a sign we are unpopular more than anything, because only the most diehard dedicated superfans play them at all.
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>>98090512
reminder the solvent that dissolves the glue also dissolves the mini
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>>98090636
drukhari with an archon and court of the-
oh
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>>98090628
that is quite literally what the inner circle companions are
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do we know how many orkz are in a unit yet?
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>>98090636

We know Orks have Pain Boys and Banner Nobs at least.
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>>98090627
i was under the impression that Tau players don't give a shit about Kroots?
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>>98090510
are you the type of autist who thinks sam and frodo were gay too?
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>>98090739
Kroot players give a shit about kroot.
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>>98090739
and you are right
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>>98090742
they were a bit gay.
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>>98090636
With any luck this'll mean Nob on Smasha Squig moves back to being its own datasheet instead of just being a squighog with a slightly better melee weapon.

Necron Crypteks will probably all become Support models.

Genestealer Cults are notorious for being character heavy so will probably get the Iconward and a few others moved to Support.

Leagues of Votann the Memnyr Strategist might move to support, along with the Arkanyst Evaluator.

Honestly a lot of armies will probably get at least one Support character in their minis wave as GW tries to push the idea.
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>>98090683
it's weird, I thought he had the risen openly join the chapter with no secret as to their identity, not be relegated to some silent bodyguard role where they don't speak to the other angels
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>>98090680
lol, I don't think Drukhari have a single support character. Then again, they only have 3 and they're all chapter master equivalents.
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>We need another name for an Egyptian robot
>Thothmek
dadsfkdl;d Would you at least TRY?!
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>>98090779
Didn't they used to have lieutenant equivalents at some point? I know they just lost a lot of units.
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Is everyone getting a lieutenant this edition? Maybe that can be the pity model for each faction.
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>>98090798
There are definitely worse things to get than more character varieties. Unless, of course, you are GSC
But yeah, the big focus they put on the leaders/support split makes it seem like that be a thing they are trying to push
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>>98090792
it's funnier that way
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>>98090809
At the absolute least that probably means another techpriest for me to paint.
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>>98090264
He was in a straight(lol) jacket for that one.
>can't character assassinate a new capeshit primarch
>need the fallen to be in a position where they become inner circle companions
I still think it's kind of allium cepa that he was all
>yeah they fired at me, but I fired back, so maybe I'm the real bad guy when you really think about it
Especially since the destruction of Caliban is from time travel shenanigans and it's not his fault anyway.
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>>98090818
>the spoiler breaks the greentext
Huh, didn't know that in all my years on here.
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When you call my name, it’s like a little prayer, I’m down on my knees, I want to take you there
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>>98090848
>Titus running into a horde of Chaos bikers
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>>98090668
Yup. Unless you're lucky and the prior owner used super glue.
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>>98090818
>I still think it's kind of allium cepa that he was all
It was onion? what does that mean
>yeah they fired at me, but I fired back, so maybe I'm the real bad guy
he simply came to the conclusion that just because some retards fired at him doesn't mean everyone did or were intent on betraying him
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>>98090869
Yeah, the English name for glycine max gets filtered to onions, so I was alluding to that. Too many layers of references. Like an onion has layers.
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I really hope their's a mounted Eldar 1DP option, I just want to boost my Jetbikes and Shining Spears (and Shroud Runners I guess...). Then I can add them to all my lists like I always do
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>>98090848
James here, buy more marines.
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>>98090756
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>>98090947
Was a noble relationship of brotherhood, a knight and his liege only an autist could consider them "gay"
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>>98090963
No I agree I’m just posting a stupid meme . They won’t let Hollywood produce stuff like that anymore.
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>>98090356
>most famous terminators have the ugliest color scheme
make one a librarian (blue) and another one a chaplain (black) and hide the rest behind them
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>>98090889
I don't know what you're talking about but you should probably ease up on the irony poisoning before you become completely insufferable fren
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If High Elves and Craftworld Eldar are inspired by Ancient Greece, what the fuck are Dark Elves and Dark Eldar then?
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>>98091037
Gypsies
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>>98091037
>Massive constant arena fights
>Super science
>Lot of stuff ripped off from greek names
i wonder
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>>98090963
Yes. Tolkien was an Oxford academic. If you dont know about the relationship between the academic golden triangle of Cambridge, Oxford and the LSE and homosexuality you really just don't know what you are talking about. Homosexuality was incredibly normalized at these economic institutions and was not considered exactly gay or a sin as we consider it now. But if you think he never grabbed C.S. Lewis' ass considering their cultural background... well you are coping.
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>>98091037
Canadians. Naggaroth is literally where Canada would be on the old world map.
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>>98090742
Sam actually clapped Rosie Cotton's cheeks, which makes him 100% straighter than the army of greased up muscle men that eschew the company of women and go around recruiting young boys. Also the Dark Angels are literally a reference to homosex, so it's not even a matter of interpretation there.
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>>98091078
it's important to remind oneself that half the ppl you're arguing with on the internet are 13-year olds, this is one such time. thank you lord.
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>>98091087
This, argument is pointless.
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>>98091087
Go ahead and google who wrote the poem the Dark Angel and what that poem is about
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>>98091037
Unironically Americans. It works on multiple levels.
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>>98091037
Commorragh is Carthage if it survived the fall of Rome. It is Sodom and Gomorrah that endured the wrath of God. It is the City of Amber. It is Tir na NĂłg. It is Atlantis beneath the sea. It is the Crucible and the Ninth Gate and Lost Carcosa.
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So chaos marines are just forever staying manlets next to primaris marines who will make up the majority of SMs with time now or what?
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>>98088663
I like vid related.

https://youtu.be/w7II__q00-A
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>>98091220
If there's one thing guaranteed, it's that GW will make new marines again at some point. They must always have a new product to sell.
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>>98091220
better luck in 5 more years
and even then they won't be exactly as tall as primaris

primaris are taller by design, not accident
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>>98090449

I like enlightened a lot
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>>98091244
those are skyfires, not enlightened
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>>98088618
https://e-hentai.org/g/3375974/40a99ad92a/
https://e-hentai.org/g/3375974/40a99ad92a/
https://e-hentai.org/g/3375974/40a99ad92a/
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>>98088949
Asked the Sloppa to generate a freebootas detachment that could be taken with any army.
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>>98091279
>hentai
I ain’t clicking that shit
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>>98091290
stop this shit
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>>98091290
Shame to see a nice concept like Freebooterz in such shit.
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>>98088955
you're desperate for anything new for 1ksons that you'll start to like the few things you get
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>>98088654
>>98088824
they really out there making a detachment for a single unit like we're knights
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>>98091222
>wwii gun noises for laser beams

nahh, no thank you
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>>98091279
does no use x anymore or is the sad panda dead?
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>>98090620
there was already a detachment where you could do that, what's even the point of this one
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>>98091290
kill yourself sloptard
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>>98091222
god bless SFM animators
>>98091362
the guys at the start of the video are using autoguns, once the guardsman starts firing it makes a bassy sci-fi pew pew sound bro the animation is only 30 seconds long
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>>98091037
High Elves are Athens to Dark Elves Sparta
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>>98088663
Canonical invisible beams.
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>>98091290
well thanks! I don’t actually play them game, so I can’t know if any of that shit is remotely coherent, but its still nice to see some ork representation in the AI slop field.
>>
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>>98088663
bolts for lasguns, beams for stronger stuff
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>be the main poster child weapon
>also be the most middle-of-the-road balanced weapon without much in outstanding abilities compared to everything else
Every time
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>>98091414
keep posting this for the next 6 years, everyone cares
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>>98091414
The best xenos army in 40k. I kneel.
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>>98091414
This is my least favorite ritual post
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>>98091418
>>be the main poster child weapon
>be thrown in the trash once another weapon is discovered
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>>98091458
KEK
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>>98091414
I like how someone went out of their way to do a homemade animation of votann machines eating planets.
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>>98091398
what are clowns, exodites, corsairs and ynnari then?
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>>98091463
They don't exist in WHFB except Exodites might be Wood Elves.
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>>98091418
"Couldn't be me" says the most overrated weapon in fiction.
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>>98091491
Jedi Academy... The best lightsaber combat to this day.
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>>98090264
>only not pozzed book Mike has ever written is Primarchslop
>no one can name any book outside of the Lion that isn't pozzed
GW would've publically executed Brooks if he did any of his usual shit with one of the biggest cashcows of the company (Primarchs).
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>>98090264
>The Lion was great
I read one passage from it and knew immediately it was complete shit, you are an uneducated, tasteless fucking peasant who guzzles slop. Brooks isn't a good writer period even when he's not being a woke cunt. No wokie ever is because they care more about their political agendas than in building an actual skill, so they don't study their craft very hard at all.
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>>98091491
I want that April Fools event to rerun.
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What army do I play if I own and ride a electric truck.
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>>98091458
>>>be the main poster child weapon
>almost always be complete trash
>fans want you to be trash so they veto any attempts to make you better
>to the point you can't stop sucking in crossovers
>which likely means the 40k crossover will also have shitty weapons to avoid disrupting the already horrible meta
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>>98091519
imagine jedi academy combat with TFU force lift physics
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>>98090512
>tfw using a super glue debonder to disassemble stuff from a used Eldar lot

Shit stunk both metaphorically and literally
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>>98088618

When are the misogynists at Games Workshop going to break up the "Old Boyz" club and add female Orks to the game?
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>>98091550
>not understanding that video games aren't real life and have balance concerns
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>>98091418
>be the main poster child weapon
>doesn't appear in the game
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>>98091558
I bet a heldrake finds these tanks in bondage quite arousing.
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>>98091550
The BR is too loved. The thought of any gameplay style besides power weapons and BR/DMR starts makes players seethe.
>>98091551
Are they mods for that?
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I hate to say it but I regret putting the chapter upgrade shoulders on my entire army.
I don't want to play Salamanders anymore...
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>>98091037

I think its Ancient Persia as seen by the Greeks. Sensual, decadent, full of backstabbing and poisoning.
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>Defiler broken as shit
>Everyone at tournaments will be running one
Would Angron be great here?
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>Wanna go to GW tomorrow to play
>Supposedly heavy thunder storms with flooding tomorrow and Sunday
>Was supposed to storm today too but it was bright and sunny with a few clouds
I don't get Texas weather.
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>>98089733
Man purposely puts politically correct shit in every single one of his books and piss off everyone in the process. Also he has a fucking mohawk.
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>>98091600
just rain anon
is your GW store on a riverbank or something
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>>98091612
No. I like rain, I just hate the noise of thunder and lightning.
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>There are anons who hate Eldar still that think they're still broken and are WAACfags
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>>98091647
What are you a faggot?
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>>98088901
Anyone know the sauce on Bronze? I'm sure I'll be disappointed but I am curious
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>>98091647
Labrador Retrievers are not allowed to use the internet, please turn off your human's computer.
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>>98091673
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>>98091600
>texas
is your local GW the one that stocks forge world models?
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>>98089733
See >>98089558 ? Yeah, that's Mike Brooks. He writes how he looks
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>>98091037
High Elves and Craftworld Eldar are first and foremost inspired by Celts, as that was Tolkien's inspiration for his incarnation of Elves (faeries).

Ancient Greece is a secondary inspiration - as well as David Bowie (traces remain), new age hippie crap, Ancient Egyptians (before Necrons existed - only traces remain), and Japanese (before Tau existed - traces remain).
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>>98091751
>are first and foremost inspired by Celts
>What are Wood Elves?
>What are Exodites?
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Why does the alien horse wear the mask?
>He's a big mount.
4u (and the collage)
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>>98091818
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>>98090544
Why is this so much better looking than the autarch kits they're actually selling?
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>>98091362
>I don’t know about autoguns or tracer bullets

Ngmi
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also a WIP on a second masked guy. not such a big one.
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How would I paint a Chaos Space Marine army as Death Knights from WoW?
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>>98091788
Also inspired by Celts, two things are possible at the same time.
Just like we have about 5 different knight inspired factions in 40k alone
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>>98091788
Wood elves are so lame
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>>98091550
>>98091560
You do sacrifice something to gun autists though. Its hard to have suspension of disbelief on something you are knowledgeable on. It is a serious problem in sci fi settings, even 40k which is fairly high tech sci fi, that technologies are in the far future which are described as advanced have a tendency to be far far less functional than their real life counterparts.

Obviously these results from game engine limits and balance concerns, but they are still an over all negative. Guns in games with worse capabilities than current normal rifles, cars that cant turn because the programmers cant make smooth feeling cars etc

Probably the best example of this is that in real life people don't have problems making turns usually or staying in lanes (all jokes about bad drivers aside). In so many video games, even ones that are considered to have great driving, it can feel almost impossible to just follow a straight road and drive in a realistic manner following traffic lights and such.
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>>98091600
>texas

Im sorry you live in a 3rd world country

>>98091818
He really does look like a sligg from abes odyssey. Nice progress!
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>>98091910
Part of the problem is both developer intent but supported by the players too much to the point the devs themselves don't go as hard.

In Halo, weapons being scattered around the map and needing to scavenge is a big part. Map design is a highly important part of balance. The spawn weapons need to not overwhelm the looted weapons to encourage this and avoid overshadowing them. The problem is, the Halo AR goes too far and for many games is just plain bad. Borderline "why give me a gun at all instead of bare hands if outperformed this badly" levels. It's basically a filler gun you ditch immediately. It also doesn't help the community loves the Battle Rifle and guns of similar roles, regularly doing modes that spawn you with them and those guns are highly dominant in singleplayer and multiplayer to the point the Assault Rifle typically loses to it in its own shorter range. Unless you've ambushed the enemy and can dump half the magazine before they spin and fire, they win.

Funny enough the Helldivers version is accurate to Halo in that it's a crap gun nobody uses unless there's nothing else available, and then it's tempting to start throwing rocks or hitting the baddies with a stick.
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>>98091600
move to the great lakes midwest, its the mecca of wargaming in the US, and has the added bonus of not being texas
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>>98091907
You're lame, Wood Elves are cool.
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>>98091931
Okay but which one is actually worth living in
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What could I kitbash this into
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>>98091961
How would you kitbash it? It doesnt look like a warhammer model at all. It looks like legos. Do you mean proxy it as something?
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>>98091939
I like their tree houses, do they smoke weed?
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Havocs are to confusing to build
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>>98089025
And got to roll two dice to pen when in half range
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>>98091910
>It is a serious problem in sci fi settings, even 40k which is fairly high tech sci fi, that technologies are in the far future which are described as advanced have a tendency to be far far less functional than their real life counterparts.
This is not actually much of a problem in 40k because the game is so abstracted, unlike a first-person shooter video game. One dice roll doesn't represent one round fired, it's often a burst of fire, and the strength values are so low on granularity every modern day infantry weapon falls under S3 or S4 for the heavy machine guns. That's all covered relatively accurately.
>but the range!
Isn't the engagement range of the weapon, it's the effective kill range. In reality, 99% of bullets fired in war never hit a target. You only start getting significant kills when you assault into point-blank range.
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>>98091944
any of the ones with a coastline on lake michigan. the chicago to milwakee cooridoor is where a lot of events are found, michigan also has some, michigan has more cities with good stores across the state that have established local scenes and state GTs, plus on a non warhammer related note michigan has just a ton of beaches, national parks, and several big cities and college towns like grand rapids, traverse city, ann arbor, and obviously detroit that always have something going on, and the detroit revival is legit although i would still live outside the city personally and commute in. indiana i know fuck all about. chicago i've been to, not sure i would want to live directly in the city, again live outside the city and drive in, but theres a lot going on in chicago as far as shit to do, it used to be where GW hosted their big US gamesday conventions too, though i dont think they do those anymore. adepticon is in milwakee

i will say though, the winters are real, especially up north. if you're not up for winter snow and ice, maybe rethink it.
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>>98092041
>In reality, 99% of bullets fired in war never hit a target.

Actually this isn't really true, different militaries have different doctrine which affects accuracy. you can actually look up average munitions to kill ratios for different militaries. Its the AK47 vs M16 mentality type shit.
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With changes to 11th objective markers being terrain, some of these 10th edition missions where you set up objective markers before the battle instead of s set layout become a lot more interesting.
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>>98092054
>average munitions to kill ratios for different militaries
Yeah it ranges from numbers like "50,000 rounds fired per kill" to "8000 rounds fired per kill" type of shit.

Almost all fire is suppressive fire done at ranges that are ineffective for eliminating the target, used just to keep their heads down while the assault element gets close enough to move in.
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>>98092063
Yea you right. I also agree the boardgame is an acceptable amount of abstraction.
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Im now 40 pages in and I think im done. This is genuine slop. Are there any good 40k novels because this has been awful so far. Anyone else read this? Does it get good at any point?

It reads like an advertisement for the minis and not a story.
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>>98092119
Vaults of Terra & Watchers of the Throne series are decent. Eisenhorn/Ravenor are classics.
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>>98092119
>Are there any good 40k novels
Peter Fehervari.
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>>98091961
Thats the MG/Ver Ka, that's big. Ork Dread.
The smaller HGUC ones can be kans. Just give them legs and an ork /grot wired in.
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>>98091961
looks like someone already did that
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>>98092161
Holy based.
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>>98092119
Whole 40k lore is a big ad for the minis. Sure, there is some decent stuff in it, but it's still an ad.
.
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>>98092161
If I posted this there would be nonstop bitching about this, two tiered scum.
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>>98092173
stop ban evading
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>>98092173
hellblasters?
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>>98092177
>>98092180
>Whataboutism
A classic..
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>>98092193
answer the question
hellblasters?
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>>98092196
Looks It’s embarrassing that I’ve not finished them yet but it’s a work and process and I got many things going on.
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>>98091910
>It is a serious problem in sci fi settings, even 40k which is fairly high tech sci fi, that technologies are in the far future which are described as advanced have a tendency to be far far less functional than their real life counterparts.
40k is a setting where cultists and Orks walk around with rusty swords and Stubbers that closely resemble the M2 Browning from 1933.

At least half the 40k factions are "low tech" or "high tech but with thousands of years of scientific backsliding".
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odds of a new nobs and meganobs kit with this upcoming ork wave?
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>>98092202
dont forget daemons which straight up have broadswords, trumpets and standards and ride chariots

40k is a fantasy game with scifi and historicalpunk elements
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Buying a 1000pt Eldar army
So far I've got
>Eldar Guardians 11x
>Warp Spiders 6x
>Fire Dragons 6x
>Rangers
>Wraithlord

Was planning on getting
>Eldrad Ulthran
>3 Shining Spears (I know they're shit but they look cool)
>Howling Banshees
>Wave Serpent

Does this combo of units cover all the bases I need for a good 1000pt force?
An anon mentioned last thread that war walkers are good
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>>98092215
this actually looks worse than the models. how did they manage that?
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>>98092199
yeah it really is lmao, i painted a whole ass titan last month and you haven't done fucking anything
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>>98092228
Black dwarves is the funniest shit ever, disgusting!
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>>98092215
*inhales HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA
nu GW is so terminally pozcucked
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>>98092243
My gosh you are so bizarre
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>>98092119
Gav Thorpe is a genuinely horrid writer who got grandfathered in because he was there at the time of GWs biggest growth and wrote a lot of early lore.

You think ADB is bad? ADB is at least a decent writer even if you dislike him personally. Thorpe is awful and everything he writes is slop.
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>>98092225
Not bad, nice amount of diversity. Its a fairly balanced army that will be able to scrap with other 1k lists like it. And you actually have center piece killing potential.

I love Eldrad, he just feels like he makes any Eldar army smoother but hes a big point investment for 1k. Normally you attach him to a warlocks conclave but no way you can bring that at 1k.
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>>98092193
remember when you tried this with the orange and tealfag's dread and then when he posted the finished version he actually cleaned up the moldline instead of acting like a faggot throwing a tantrum every time we pointed out it was still there like you do, ban evader?
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>>98092285
That never happened you ignorant pig
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>>98092296
yes it did
you want to get BTFO'd with archive photos yet again?
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>>98092285
that is stupid too
if an artfag autist fusses over your model you always go
>wowow thanks for the advice/pointing that out anon!!!
and then you ignore his ass and put it on the shelf as is
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>>98092302
retard
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>>98092298
Go ahead pin dick, you won’t find shit.
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>>98092304
woof
bitter tonight huh
let the tabletoppers feel your rage anon we deserve it
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>>98092307
I'll accept your suicide
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>>98092304
yeah, you?
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>>98092312
The line is still there you blind macaque, which again I find to be just fine but it’s you nomodels paintlets who screech about every detail.
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>>98092317
you're a retard
here's it with the line gone that he posted down the line
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>>98092326
This is just sad man, the models fine but he had a gap..get over it.
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>>98092330
And he got rid of it, unlike (you) who just goes
>i-it's a defect from the camera
>y-you can't even n-notice it
>I-I cleaned it up since taking this pic
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>>98092337
You would have verbally skewered me if I had this gap.
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>>98092342
cute cope
can't help but notice how you ignored the point entirely
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>>98092347
People see you for the falsifier that you are.
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>>98092352
coming from the guy presently evading his permaban
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>>98092356
Can we see your models anon?
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>>98092330
>the models fine
that model mogs everything you've ever painted by several magnitudes
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>>98092361
Again..can we see your models, we’ll wait.
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Thought so../Flex
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>>98092225
>Check out any Eldar army list
>Fire Dragons are in every single one
Jesus fucking Christ, just make another unit capable of dealing with vehicles and monsters already.
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>>98091961
Votann. You can convert it into one of their flying eyeball things that shoot lasers and revives dead people.
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The mutant is up at 3 in the morning whining about being treated unfairly despite not finishing a single model in almost 9 months. I am up at 3 in the morning kitbashing together a Terminator Sorcerer Lord for my Iron Warriors warband. We are not the same.
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>>98092358
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>>98092358
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>>98092423
I applaud your effort but don’t be a sleaze
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does every ork list have wazdakka in it now? all of the winning tourney lists seem to have him
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>>98092358
>no response

the absolute state of nomodels
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>>98092358
Can you please kill yourself already?
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>>98092494
Yes, not a single person in this thread owns models in this thread besides you. No one actually owns models for this game and either just steal pictures from google/reddit/dakkadakka or ai generates them. This whole general is a simulation to keep you occupied and away from you working on your own models,
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>>98092342
That's because you're an obnoxious shitposter that has been here for 2 years yet you still act like you're on facebook or reddit.
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>>98092366
>>98092385
>>98092494
ban evasion status?
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>>98092215
I hate how 40k video games need to stick to the models 1:1, especially the boxart models, it's extra bland.
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>>98092161
How big is that actually? Redemptor sized?
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>>98092558
They don't
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>>98092565
>they don't
Exhibit A
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>>98092579
exhibit B
all of darktide and space marine 2
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>>98092565
>>98092579
Exhibit B
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>>98092204
Hard to tell. GW is a bit pants on head sometimes. They made a new lictor, hormagaunts, biovore but didn't bother with shrikes or a gargoyles refresh despite including a winged tyranid prime in the starter box.

There's a good chance if we do get nobs they'll be shoved into a killteam box a year late.

Also they might pull weird horseshit like throwing the Shokk Attack Gun into legends despite being a hugely popular ranged character option and an iconic weapon that's been around since Rogue Trader.
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FUCK, I applied too much super glue on my mini, and it is fucking ruined it leaked through the cracks. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>98092581
>darktide
While early darktide didn't, probably because it started development a while ago, recent releases are very much according to models, for the most part.
>SM2
Same deal; many armor parts are just existing bits ported to the game.

If you look at Gladius, Tacticus, (battlesector?) and DoW4 it's as 1:1 as it can be.
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>>98088650
>close quarters
get ready for marines to get a "close quarters" big ass bolter that explodes enemies in melee range
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>>98092591
>recent releases are very much according to models, for the most part.
nope!
>Same deal; many armor parts are just existing bits ported to the game.
not a single customization option in multiplayer is existing as a model other than the helmets
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>>98092588
I had a catastrophic superglue accident a couple weeks ago too, so I sympathise m8. Superglue is dangerous.
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>>98092593
Perhaps some kind of storm bolter
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>>98092598
>nuh-uh
>no, but actually yes
Outside of the shield and pauldrons you can make picrel
>BT marshal body & powerpack
>BT upgrade sprue helmet
The sword needs a tiny kitbash
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>>98092614
>look it's 1:1
>proceeds to describe how none of it is 1:1
I accept your concession
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>>98092587
speaking of squatted kits, is there anywhere to still get the old snikrot in the shushing pose?
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>>98092618
You're right, let's ignore all the others game who have to stick to the strict guidelines because 2 action games have a tad more leeway for obvious reasons.

If all you care about is winning online arguments by being disingenuous rather than understand how the world works, that's a personal defeat on your end.

Last (you)
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>>98092636
Made him run. Anon won.
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>>98092636
>strict guidelines
>base this on my schizophrenic ramblings and nothing else
sorry you're this desperate to prove a point that has no basis in reality but hopefully you'll grow from this experience
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>>98091290
Can you do an I.G. detatchement centered around horses and cavalry and melee charges? I love world war 1 cavalry
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>Have a list of 1990/2000
>Cannot figure out how to make it perfectly 2000
I know it doesn't matter, but I want to anyway.
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>>98092687
No. Best you can do is 30 death riders and 30 Attilans, and two epic heroes. Still need another thousand points.
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>>98088761
devs have to prove themselves to GW before they are allowed to do something more unique
random jobbers like DoW4 or Battlesector devs have to stick to representing models as close as it is possible, including box art evay metal artstyle
CA, Fatshark, Relic are trusted and can do more unique things. Probably Saber and Owlcat at this point as well
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can someone please throod? i have a model to post
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>>98092698
Being 5-10 points under is fine. Honestly it's good for balance patches if a unit gets nerfed.
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>>98092762
>I need more (You)s !!!
fuck off, post it here
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>>98092707
then maybe give them BATTLELINE no?
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>>98092762
sure give me a moment
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>>98092790
>>98092790
>>98092790
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>>98092228
Boring poses, flat coloring.
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>>98092599
I just went and bought another box of termies, I couldn't save him and he just looked so cooked with the glue residue on him.



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