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TqHighest orksLowest eldar
I like orks :D
>>98096414Highest: DeathguardLowest: Tau, Can't think of any other faction that doesn't just leave trash all over the place.
>>98096414>TQhighest orks (obviously) lowest marines
How the fuck are the slaanesh chariots supposed to work
How's everyone doing on their Collage entry for this month? I finally started doing the painting for this guy and got the inner frame and base mostly done. Thanks to the long weekend I'll probably be able to finish him by Monday. Also post models.
>>98096515i dont think im finishing this malcador in time
Also RIP Bozo. This is my first ever painted Cadian despite owning something like 80ish Guard models.
>>98096515entry is done>why does the alien horse wear the mask?>hes a big mount
>>98096414>”lord anon why do all private negotiations with the tau diplomat females take place in your bedroom?”>>98096471Warp magic is how.Really how effective is the warp in being a “get out of jail free card” for writing?Has a meme of that “magic I ain’t gotta explain shit” but for the warp been made yet?
>>98096533>>98096522>>98096520Great looking models everyone, really solid work.
I want enclaves 2DP detachment now so I can doom already. Fusion Blades where? Detachment affecting fire warriors in close range where?
>>98096515Painted these guys up last week.
>>98096515Finished my guy up
>Have a bunch of models to paint and too tired to do>Don't want them to look just plain white or grayShould I put contrast paint over them so they at least have some color when I play while I work on other minis?
>>98096615Only if you won't regret it later when you go to finish them
>>98096615>Have a bunch of models to paint and too tired to doThis is bitch talk. Just paint your models.
>>98096556
>>98096591What do Shoulder-shields think of their divergent teammate? I bet he thinks he's using blade and buckler like some gueronsha swordsman
>>98096638He's under suspicion of having a mild countenance towards the farsight enclaves. This has prevented promotion in multiple trials by fire.
Are there any good techniques for painting Black Templar shoulders. Some videos suggest stippling, but the raised crosses and other patterns seem to make that difficult?
>>98096627But I wanna sleep
>>98096660Paint them separate from the model before gluing them on. Undercoat grey seer. Build up white (the trick to white is grey), black trim. Highlight. Add transfers. Done.
What is the difference between an Eldar Warlock and Warlock Conclave?
Sisters, the vostroyan sculpts make me feel uncomfortableDespite their entire gimmick being they're firstborn there's not a single girl, and worse still I think it might have a racist aura to it because I can't see any unprivileged skintones or noses on the webstore preview paintjobAnyway, I'm still annoyed that despite being a British company whose primary market is Britain, they put us at the third last position in front of literally the only "Other" regions and they keep thinking I'm from IrelandOh and they made me do an image captcha as if it's 2014
>>98096668>Conclave>noun>a gathering of a group
>>98096668A warlock is an individual. A conclave is a group. Conclave usually either means a secret meeting of several people or a meeting of several people for religious purposes, or both.
>>98096414>izzatSo basically we're asking who is the brownest, most third-world coded faction in 40k? Orks. Although even they have a designated latrine, which places them above rural Indians in terms of sanitation.
>>98096414>tqI just learned of the iron tard from another thread.So I’m gonna say that between the imperial fists and iron warriors the iw have lower izzat and the fists have higher izzat.The fists have higher izzat as well because the semi reliable big boy 40k leak YouTuber is a fist fanboy.>>98096631Wrong image?I need a goth gf.I have no goth gf.>pic of sad Ryan gosling hereWhat 40k army has the highest chance of getting me a goth gf?
>>98096682You mean hrud. Orks are hooligans. Hrud are basically animals that shit all over everything with their “migrations”. At least Orks have empires and conquest to them is more than simple migration.
I'm confused on Sustained hits, does it mean I get to shoot my gun even more?
>>98096675I know you’re joking about that crowd and how they always validate stereotypes about them but I can’t laugh anymore.They really think and act and talk like that and if you point out their stereotypes they prove right they will not get the memo and improve or play dumb.Oddly enough I’ve never encountered a player like that when playing 40k at the local game store.
>>98096689Not an army, so the bendies don't count.
i love t'au women
>>98096631>jaw lines, cute noses, big tits, and pretty eyes.Fuck. Sacrifice me. I’m in.
TSons armyPrimary color yellow, trim is a very dark iron color. Matte black secondary colors.Grensuffing the right eye to be smooth and flush with the trim to mirror Magnus. Maybe some blindfolds tooCringe or based?I'm painting the test model in the morning
>>98096414>highest izzatUltras with their elf waifu and never-lose status or Deldar being so above everyone and everything, they don’t really care, they just want slaves and souls.>lowestNecrons. They have a lot to be salty about.
>>98096707>pretty eyesSecond from the left definitely has BPD eyes
>>98096722People will call them iron warriors aligned. That smoothening of the eye sounds based though, I like it.
>>98096725>BPD eyesMaybe it is just a deliberately made facial expression.I have heard of the “gen z stare.”Even after googling I haven’t got a concrete understanding of it.I’m not sure if I’ve done the stare myself or if it is also done by the younger generation.How do you respond to one at the lgs?Or is it inevitable of autism awkwardness at the local game store I will eventually encounter when just wanting to play 40k?
>>98096722>Grensuffing the right eye to be smooth and flush with the trim to mirror Magnus. Maybe some blindfolds tooThat's based.I dunno about the color though. What are you go for? Wasps? Sunflowers? The batman logo?if you want them to look like magnus you could paint them like magnus? Vallejo his this metallic red that's kinda pinkish.
>1K Point Aspect Host Army List:>x1 Lhykhis>x1 Spirit Seer>x2 Dire Avengers>x1 Warp Spiders>x1 Fire Dragons>x1 Howling Banshees>x1 Rangers>x1 Wave Serpent>x1 WraithbladesIf I want an Avatar of Khaine, who should I remove to make room? >INB4 I get called a WAACfag
>>98096743Not a bad list.Only “weakness” it has is down to users having or not having a skill issue.>waacfagWhat even makes an army waacfag nowadays?I don’t want to come with pushover armies that provide no challenge to the opponent thus being a time waster but at the same time I don’t want a build where it is unfun to play against because everything is overpowered.
>>98096742The color itself doesn't have much meaningI just want to make them unique. Something other than Ahriman Blue or pre-heresy red. A lot of loyalist chapters don't have color schemes that match their gimmick.
>>98096736They’re odd no matter what>be /fit/ bro>go to my flgs for some pickup games of 40k with regulars on a saturday, just general socializing with friends and friendly acquaintances, feels good>the only physically attractive girl always tries to make herself known to me in goofy ways>bitch, i’m here to play my imperial fists against Dan’s Orks, you drive a busted up entry level hyundai, your have a bad relationship with your family, I bet your apartment has laundry all over the floor, sure you have impeccable hygene and makeup skills, but you work a dead end job with no real prospects other than finding “mr right”. You’re a loser. Stay away from loser women, anons. Trust me, I've been down that road. You’re more worthwhile than that, lads.
I don’t know if I’ve simply gotten better at building kits or if they really took a step back cause the Devastator Squad was so much better to put together than the Hell Blaster kit (specifically the back pack variant)
Give me your best explanations for why in an allied game, anyone would ally with Dark Eldar, Tyranids, GSC, or Chaos Daemons (besides CSM).
>>98096766>Dark Eldar, GSC, or Chaos Daemons (besides CSM).You're fighting Tyranids.>Tyranids, You're playing GSC.
>>98096758That’s good advice and a good story anon.Besides hygiene and manners what are some “unspoken rules” when at the lgs to play warhammer 40k?Things one is supposed to pick up on?I’m not sure if I pick up on any.N-no mr. Anon I am not a government agent trying to “how do you do fellow warhammer 40kids.” I’m just a warhammer 40k player trying to be a better one.
>>98096766>Dark Eldarconceited leader thinks he can hire mercenaries an not get backstabbed>Tyranidssomeone invented some tech to control the hivemind for a bit until it evolves immunity, mostly works with Necrons, who have done this in canon to a degree>GSCDifferent reason for anyone, Necrons have mind controlled them, anyone else thought they were humans and the GSC just revealed their hybrids in a moment of desperation, cooperation lasts until the battle is over.>Daemonswhatever got corrumptedNecrons/Daemons is the only pairing that doesn't work
>>98096766Deldar, while entirely indifferent to most of the galaxy, still have goals and aspirations with a sense of reason. There would be rare, but still viable common ground from time to time.GSC, if they perhaps take over government through legimiate channels, you’d have plenty of regular people who would look to their Genestealer infected politicians as authority figures. Just look at the world today. The unbridled sycophantic behavior of portions of the populace under the last two Us administrations. Tyranids and Demons? Other than GSC and Chaos worshippers respectively, no.
>>98096778People like what they like and tend to find ways to afford what they want. I’m also a huge car guy. I don’t like low riders or even classics (50s-70s) that much. Doesn’t mean I can’t appreciate some of the mind bending paint jobs they have which took a lot of skill and effort. Finding a way to appreciate something you’re otherwise not into has helped me make a lot of friends with common ground elsewhere.
>>98096780>Necrons/Daemons is the only pairing that doesn't workThere is no way to justify Sisters, Custodes, or Grey Knights allying with any of the obviously Chaos factions.
>>980966311>4>2>3
>>98096584>>98096656I like to think 4th sphere vets are too hardcore even for Enclaves' taste.But idk what their goal could be: reform will be impossible under Ethereal supervision. They'll have to make their own colonies...and be alone. Just how did Farsight's planets manage to survive?!
>>98096706>i love t'au womenBut do they love you?
>>980967973>2>4>1Different strokes for different folks. Variety is the spice of life baby!
>>98096795sisters, custodes and grey knights are all susceptible to corruption, no matter what your self-aggrandizing codices say, unless you want to also accept genestealers are more feared than chaos and orks
>>98096792>Finding a way to appreciate something you’re otherwise not into has helped me make a lot of friends with common ground elsewhere.I think this is a concept too many people from nerd communities that are usually highly populated by autists don’t understand.40k isn’t the only one.I don’t know if I ever exemplified this advice ever in my life before reading that and having a way to put it in words. I hope I did at least once.But thanks anon.I’ll be better at blendin- I mean getting along with warhammer 40k players at the lgs in the future.
Didn’t gw try squatting the Slaanesh chariot and the corn dog at some point
>>98096801I don't like that your image implies that tau is a copy of a copy
>>98096851Don’t worry about it. Archetypes are archetypes for a reason. Just remember two things, difference between a hero and a villain, and the meaning of honor.Heroes get hurt and spend their lives making sure as many as possible don't get hurt the same way. Villains get hurt and spend their lives making sure as many as possible get hurt the same way. Honor is maintaining one’s personal dignity and morals when it will cost you to do so.
>>98096801my 4th sphere vets are pragmatic, they're lost in space and just trying to build a sept in a massive system. They still use auxiliaries, mainly local gue'vesa. They make great breachers, its amazing how with just a little conditioning how willingly they are to throw their lives away for our greater good.
>>98096845Gw tried squatting slaanesh in aos so it is safe to say that they were trying to squat slaanesh in general so by proxy squatting those models too.At most what is certain is that games workshop wants slaanesh lore to focus more on the other vices than the sexual vices of slaanesh.The sexual side of slaanesh is mostly hinted at to various “subtle” degrees and not given much excessive detail if at all.Lore justification is that marines are monsters for war so not interested in sexual stuff but I’m not really buying it. It feels like a cop out to keep 40k semi-sanitized.I do like the noise marines.I like the older design detail of the screaming speakers on their backpacks not being symmetrically organized like they just semi-organically sprouted like fungus speakers from their backs.I also like the “reverse melting” for lack of better words detail of pic related.Where speakers are bubbling out of the armor.The art is probably not canon to Horus heresy but I’ve never seen any stls of this style of not! Noise marines.
>>98096845The Corn Dog seems to have been a mistake with how fast they reversed it. It was honestly a rather baffling sequence of events all around.
>>98096882GW got slannesh right with Sigvald. Vanity and perfection. The whole extreme pleasure aspect is kinda silly. Pride, vanity, perfection, audacity, arrogance. With legitimate skill behind it makes for a very dangerous mix. Without it, and you have a do-nothing preening fop.
>>98096811I think I can accept that. Chaos is something the imps try to keep secret, so the average human doesn't know to fear them. Orks are probably about as known as nids, but orks aren't garaunteed to raze your planet down to bedrock for resources. They might get bored and move on, they might only enslave you. Hell, your local planetary militia might have hired ork mercenaries once or twice. Genestealers can be anybody and if they get their way everything gets vored.
>>98096882>speaker pipes I was talking aboutNot sure what they’re called in the fluff Sauce: https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/973738-Noise%20Marines%20%28old%29%20Rebased%201.html>>98096887Can I get some context on the corn dog please?Was it on the road to being a very hastily squatted model? I’m not sure what model got released then squatted the fastest.>>98096899Sigvald is pretty good.I get that GW is doing body horror with emperor’s children marines but now I’m kind of curious about “unnaturally elegant” armored emperor’s children.Not the armor is grotesque and baroque but not like excessively detailed stl kind of baroque so the models can be painted.Think the Balthasar gelt face mask but as a marine helmet and the armor is cleanly decorated along with even the chaos spikes.
>>98096876>They still use auxiliaries, mainly local gue'vesaDoesn't sound like verified 4th Sphere patriots. The Greater Good is only for the good ones, and they refuse all non-tau. Greater Wrong Tauva was born out of aliens' collective misunderstanding.
>>98096960yeah, but you can kill more if you can convince some of them to kill others as well. Its pure Efficiency, Humans are not immune to communion helms.
How’s the Ak gunmetal paint’s coverage?I want to use it to cover the winged skulls over green helmets on my guardsmen.Or should I just use a neutral gray instead?That winged skull is where everything goes bust because coverage is usually bad for bright colors that make the wings stand out and they get chalky.
>>98096515Finished this gentleman today.
>>98096675woke 2.0 has moved past that though, and we can even say bad words. white chads can once again be the face of diversity (as we will be the minority in our own countries).
>>98096743avatar of Khaine is considered really bad in 10th so... its more laacfag territory. don't let fake grogs who don't play the game convince you every army that includes a T9 unit and up is cheating, that's literally every army nowadays.
>>98096851>>98096801another similarity is that Farsight is implied to be either a successor or clone. The Tau have a clone technology that overwrites someones memories with a dead hero, and it was part of the reason Farsight defected. He might be using that technology to stay alive to manage his territory. Very similar to the boss clones.
>>98096964>Ethereal command send Gue'Vesa to assist us>We give them subpar or discarded gear, load them into Devilfish and send them into the gruesome duty of close support frontliner >They get decimated: about 10% die per campaign>Yet their morale keeps improving despite our best efforts>One of them even thanked the supply officer. "Best gun I've had!", it barked>Ethereals would reprimand us ...but word of our "accomplishments" have caused local settlements to sue for integration into the Empire>We are victims of our own success...
>>98097001second bit is pure fanfic, it's already been confirmed his sword is stealing lifespans from those he kills and if he ever knew the truth he'd kill himself
>>98097007ah, thanks. got it.
>>98096977He won't be able to shoot if the barrel is not drilled
Grey Knights list for tomorrow, trying a mechanized assault kinda thing.>Sanctic SpearheadBrotherhood Librarian (80pts)Brotherhood Techmarine (95pts) (Spiritus)Grand Master in Nemesis Dreadknight (255pts) (Sigil)Grand Master in Nemesis Dreadknight (235pts) (Driven)Venerable Dreadnought (140pts)5x Brotherhood Terminator Squad (185pts)5x Strike Squad (120pts)5x Purgation Squad (115pts)5x Purifier Squad (125pts)5x Purifier Squad (125pts)Land Raider Redeemer (270pts)Razorback (85pts)Razorback (85pts)Razorback (85pts)
>>98097007>There's nothing more for me to give you>All there's left for you to take is my life
>>98096977Nice work, needs MORE SCOPES
>>98097005It just keeps happening.
>>98097007His daemonic sword is keeping him alive?Would it be safe to say he's already a demon?
>>98096515>How's everyone doing on their Collage entry for this month?I haven't done a damn thing, I was going to work on a defiler or at least some mutilators but instead I put together a gundam
>>98097005at 43 was ahead of its time in terms of design. imagine if they had done multi part plastics instead of prepainted rubber crap and actually stuck around. could have legit gave 40k a run for its money, they had adrian smith and kopinski both doing art for it if i recall
>>98096515I moved on to a better game
>>98097044i said this in another thread but that was what Dust was, it was actually becoming as popular as 40k. Then it died
>>98097007>if he learns the truth he’ll kill himselfOut of pure dogma or the sword forces him to?
>>98096515
I got my master's degree in geology. I hope I don't find any necron tombs in my field work!
>>98097074congratulations anon. I'm taking a 100 level course in geology this summer and am thinking of minoring in it because Im training to be a paleontologist
>>98097086Thank you and good luck. I hope you, too, don't run into any Necron tombs in your work.
>>98097093What sort of geology, Hydrogeology, sedimentology, minerology?
>>98097093Fuck! Scarper, lads, it's the Thrillakh Dynasty!
Does anyone know which book mentions the nostraman cards that the night lords use or what they are? Also wip nightlord
>>98097099Sedimentology, I plan to be a structural geologist.
>>98097116holy based, that's exactly what I want to learn about because stratigraphy is such an important skill to do a fossil survey
>>98097135I remember giving a trilobyte I found to my at-the-time girlfriend and she appreciated it. I wonder how the Imperium reacts to xenos fossils. Like, they're already dead to the point of being fossilized, so it can't be heretical to have them right?
>>98097022>They send me humans to commit atrocities in Tauva's name.>And as I get better at it...they send me more>"Tauva". They don't even get the name right...
>>98097037>DaemonicNecronic, just look at the damn thing, it's "we have xenophase blade at home."
>>98096515My kitbash for the guy that tanked a Hierophant for multiple turns
>>98097144This copypasta is one of my favorites but nothing will beat the navy seals one.Has anybody written one but in a flavor Abbadon would say? Guilliman?Or even.The Black Lion of Ultramar OC?
theories no one is smart enough but me to pick up on.>Tau were created by the Necron Deciever, as they both have a head slit>Tau were uplifted by Votann as away to spite the Ad mech>Tau are a ruled by Tyranid bio-constructs in the form of Ethereals >There is a lost asian space civilisation on the far edge of the eastern fringe that uplifted the Tau in secret
>>98097116>>98097135Cool, I Majored in Biochemistry and planned to minor in geology, but i ended up doing a double major because pretty much every geology class was interesting, and field work is way better than lab work.
>>98097154I think the Tau were simply uplifted because their short lifespans make them evolve and live faster. A human generation is around twenty five years, a Tau generation is about ten to fifteen. Tau are adults at eight. They live and do things at twice the speed humans do, so what we have done in the past two thousand years, they were able to in one thousand years.
>>98097066What killed it?>>98097044I like to headcanon Necrons and Therians are the same. And I like their goal better: saving the universe from going Big Crunch, killing any biologicals that get in the way >> trying to undo the literal immortality they blessed themselves with.I also like Therians being silly from being terminally online instead of simply having senile dementia or being lobotomized civilians; there's just no in-between.They also remind me of BLAME!
I’m starting a votann army for next edition. Can i get some thoughts on the orange?
>>98097151>Single power clawHe's evil
>>98097168Looks very blue-collar, almost like reflective safety vests. Since kinsmen tend to be miners, I find the color fitting. Gives the vibe that these are the guys protecting the miners destroying the planet they're on to feed their machine gods.
>>98097162the most anime part of the riptide is the fact that pilots probably 14.
>>98097183Yeah, but their 14 is our 30, so it's more Top Gun and less Evangelion.
>>98097183>pilots probably 14.So that's how it goes in Taunar cockpits huh>>98097188>their 14 is our 30So is our own 30s now that we don't smoke lmao
>>98097191>So is our own 30s now that we don't smoke lmaoYeah but we sit alot in our assess which while not as bad, is still kinda bad.
>>98097166From what i recall, the creator tried to run a Dust kickstarter and fumbled it and just mismanagement.Before that i recall traveling in Europe and visiting a major LGS and easily half or more of the wargaming section was Dust products more than GWs. As it was super popular at the time.
>>98097191That's cope; IRL, humans are shifting the age of accomplishments due to bureaucracy and economics. In the past it was very normal to have your career and finish your education before you're twenty, but due to shifts in labor, education, legal formalities, and affordability, people are often in education and prep jobs until their late 20's. Sure, modern 30 year olds have better nutrition and less exposure to non-plastic pollutants, but biologically, they're mostly the same it's just the social expectations and factors that have changed.
>>98097203No, i meant it on people looking younger longer than before.But if you mean societally, go back to before WW2 and you'll see teenagehood dissapear - 14 year olds were the young adults
>>98097162Tau sound like Skaven
>>98097209They're not as backstabby as skaven. They're a fast-breeding horde like skaven, but they have a much more organized and clean society. Tau aren't really known for mass rebellions and coups, the only exception I can think of off the top of my head is the Farsight Enclave, but they're basically a renegade rebellion more occupied with fighting Orks than actually trying against the empire itself.
>>98097142cabinet of curiosities is very much alive in the imperium. nobles collect hunted xenos skulls to mount on the wall, or have a collection of archeological knick knacks.
>>98097158>field work is way better than lab work.holy based, exactly. I want to actually get out there and find things.
>>98097191I was thinking more eva, you know, teenagers getting mindfucked by extraterrestrial horrors.
>>98097212The Ethereal caste has greenlit the development of fast breeding Tau breeding cows. For the Greater Good!
>>98097162>weyou are not a human in the 40k universe, anon. It is time to learn to separate fiction from reality.
>>98097225Unironically, with how collective and organized the Tau are, I wouldn't be surprised if the Tau unironically had "breeding woman" as a job. Or at least so many incentives for child-rearing that it's common practice to reproduce as much as you can.
>>98097223If demons were tigers chasing men, Tau would be flies. They can be detected, but tigers simply don't mind them as much as their actual prey.Also, Riptides are barely two stories tall and don't strain their pilots' psyche. I just picked DITF because funni animeme
>>98097229I did distinguish between reality and 40k. The Gregorian calendar that we use, the one currently on year 2026, is based on the pivtal moment Christianity claims their god was born. An event that would influence many of the social and by extension, technological changes we've seen in the past two thousand years compared to all the time prior to the AD era. Basically most of the major events of human history, from Augustus' rain and the mid Han dynasty, to today, is two thousand years. In the 40k universe, the Tau made comparable advances in very short periods of time.
>>98097232>unironically, unironicallybreeders are typically called 'bulls' in species, and they are always male. every female is a "breeding woman" to us. this is not because of collectivism or organization, but because of Darwinism. touch grass.
>>98097229We're not going to talk about humans like they are a separate species, man. Whatever the most humanoid faction of a species, that's going to be us.
>>98097162you know Tau are not actually as amazing as the lore implies.For example they were civilised for iirc 6000 years. The Imperium is 10k years old. Then for both races we can subtract how many tens of thousands of years they were doing nothing and banging rocks together. The only difference us humanity had a few 10s of thousand years headstart where they rose and fell a bunch of times. So assuming both had say 50k of prehistory where they were cavemen hunter gathers. That means humanity had +20k of doing nothing on Tau.
>>98097241wtf
>>98097232The Tau probably have secret breeding labs and its covered up.Its how they restore lost numbers every time theres a major loss in population.
>>98097232>so many incentives for child-rearing that it's common practice to reproduce as much as you can.Or it could be the opposite way. They do have the technology to harvest all ovum and raise in-vitro cohorts should they want to
>>98096845>>98096887Wtf is a corn dog??
>>98097245don't bother actually trying to make sense of GWs numbers, they are always a decent into madness because they are nerds not actually scientists with a good knowledge of astronomy, military logistics, scale or time. the real answer is the codex outright says "they developed really quickly" so you just have to take it at face value this is true. also if you would consider the end of the neolithic the spread of sedentary agriculturism that enabled complex exchange networks that started the chain of technological advancement, what v gordon childe called the neolithic revolution, then it took humanity approx 10-12k years to get to the moon. With the Tau stated to have gone from cave men to interstellar in 6k they are advancing quickly by human standards.
>>98097239>don't strain their pilots' psycheThey just fry them if they try to use their suits at max power. I also don't know how riptides solved the issue of battlesuits fucking with their pilots' brains. And that's assuming they fixed the issues with XV8 suits that did fuck with the brains of their pilots.
>>98097245also we know some of the Tau's wondrous technology came from humans and is the inferior version to boot
>>98097260flesh hounds
>>98097263Woah. I knew they could push the reactor into Red October levels, but didn't know the controls were that intrusive. What edition was that?
>>98097245I thought they were just a young species that had faced no real challenge of merit. Akin to a kid in a bounce-house.
>>98097239Just because the demon doesn't give a fuck about the tau at its feat. Doesn't meant that, the naive tau that just saw reality fucking explode in front of him is doing okay.
>>98097262i mean my point is they went from cavemen to space travellers in about the same time frame as humanity went from spear chuckers to space colonisation Also if we view the age of strife as a hard reset of humanity's civilisation, the it's basically 10k vs 6k.>>98097280they almost went extinct in their early history because the actual baseline Tau is a sperg, possibly implying a susceptibly to Chaos. It was the Ethereals that unnaturally pacified them with hypnotoad powers. It was because of this they were able to develop quickly as they had no war between themselves anymore
>>98097245>they were civilised for iirc 6000 yearsThey were first recorded in late-M35 as cavemen. When the Ethereals appeared, they had firearms. First Sphere Expansion was from mid-M37 to late-M38. So, in less than 2000 years they went from loin-clothed spear chuckers into colonizing star systems.
>>98097280>no real challenge of merit. Akin to a kid in a bounce-house.Fuck your tame ass bouncing, man. You just need more hot sauce is all
>>98097280>that had faced no real challenge of merit.They still have not.
>>98097289>they almost went extinct in their early history because the actual baseline Tau is a sperg, possibly implying a susceptibly to Chaos they are descended from the original necrons which is why they are so good at tech and have tiny souls. and are assholes.[\spoiler]
>>98097277I think it's from Fire Warrior, so 2003. Late 3e.
>>98097281I asked the prettiest girl out to dance without an ounce of fear because I mistakenly thought we were related; you have zero idea of the protective power of ignorance.I didn't even know how to dance then.
>>98097289Maybe you should brush up on your knowledge on about how long humans have existed so far.
>>98097300>I asked the prettiest girl out to dance without an ounce of fear because I mistakenly thought we were relatedsweet home alabama
>>98097296the necrontyr are millions of years old though. But that could be a possible theory i used to have. That the Tau are actually the Necrons attempt to recreate themselves biologically.
>>98097301thats the point dumbass, Tau would have existed for tens of thousands of years too
>>98097280not really. do you why we call lore 'fluff'. its literally a term to make something bigger than it is, like in pornography. I'm tau fluff they are young but also have won fights against the big dogs in the galaxy. they need to be winning to make them cool, which just makes sense if you think about it for 2 seconds. They've beaten or stalemated the Imperium many times, survived a Tyranid hive fleet plowing into them and even defeated an entire death guard fleet. They have also overcome genestealers and orks.
>>98097289>they went from cavemen to space travellers in about the same time frame as humanity went from spear chuckers to space colonisationI hope you aren't glossing that time when it took us 3,500 years to go from bronze swords to iron swords, and then another couple thousand years to add proper crossguards to them.
>>98097296This is the same pattern recognition that goes "Silver space marine with yellow and black markings? Must be loyalist IW."
modern humans existed for tens of thousands of years. So would have modern Tau. So theres a massive overlap where both species were primitive for tens of thousands of years. Which means humans actually became more advanced faster than Tau.
>>98097322I mean...
>>98097324>So would have modern Tau.But they didn't.Stop making up head canon lol
>>98097324Five thousand years of sword was cool though. It was fun until some fuckers started firing pellets out of hollow tubes
>>98097333if tau were discover 6k years ago by the ad mech as modern tau biologically and they were hunter gatherers, we can assume there was tens of thousands of years prior of them being primitives just like humans
>>98097311I think your frame of reference is a bit skewed here, retard gangs on Necromunda have done most of the things you listed too. Humanity controlled the whole galaxy at a time, so did Necron, Eldar, and they have faced down threats that made their entire civilizations break and form into something new. I guess that is what happened with the Ethereals, but Tau haven't had that kind of shakeup to their civilization yet on the galactic stage.
>>98097340What is a primitive Tau? They have hooves and poor eyesight so... Zebra? Sheep? Bison?
Isn't it kind of the point for Tau to have improved "quickly"? It's supposed to be long enough to be believable but the technology/culture great enough to be strange/mysterious of a growth.I just arrived in the thread.
>>98097359like Na'vi from Avatar but midgets
>>98097346>Humanity controlled the whole galaxy at a time, so did Necron, EldarNTA, how could mankind have a DAoT Galactic Empire at the same time pre-fall Eldar (Aeldari) ruled the galaxy? They just let monkeigh spread through the galaxy without care?
>>98097360they came out of nowhere quickly but compared to humans, humans in 40k reached the same level of civilisation in a shorter time but fumbled it.
>>98097367Yeah the Eldar were smoking bongs and lazing about and just let humanity physically take over the entire galaxy.But in the Eldar's arrogant minds they were superior and sat in a higher place ruling over the galaxy
>>98097367They have their comfy webway. They didn't care.
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98097360Yes. I've always thought the grimdark threat of the tau is that they're a new empire advancing rapidly and poised to have their turn taking over the galaxy like humanity/necrons/eldar did before.
>>98097376>Detachment improving Blades for Hire>It only affects ranged attacks, fuck IncubiDark Eldar refresh IS coming, and if I were you, I'd fear it. You'll lose what little you have.
>>98097346>frame if reference is offno. the whole point of fluff is to make everyone seem cool so their enjoyers can see them as strong and capable and buy more toys.
>>98097378To me it was always how many space marines are there compared to crisis suit pilots. And then it's starts to make sense why the imperium can only slow the advance.Even if there are only an equal number. The crisis suits all still all concentrated in one spot.
>>98097378that is but if you are an autist you are incapable of understanding that even when its directly told to you by GW
>>98097390Yes everyone is bafass. But also evil, so you can enjoy your badassess kicking evil guys asses.It's actually brilliant
>>98097392Crunchwise, is there anything SM can do against battlesuits? They are VEHICLE right? They can shoot in melee but are vulnerable to antitank stuff like...krak grenades? idk
>>98097397An anon who actually gets 40k. I thought I would never see the day.
>>98097177>>Single power claw>He's evilNah, he's funny
>>98097406>and they shall know no fearwith this loony I actually believe it
they'd make the Tau more sinister and evil if they leaned more into the out of control science theme of theirs. We only know this from the books but fir example them trying to engineer their own genestealer strain, creating fake space marine mimics etcI saw a neat fan idea where the Tau's solution to the Ork problem was to basically lobotomise them and fit a mind control harness on them
>>98097327They’re not exactly subtle about who’s the father.Still I think imperial fists make for a good legion that a chapter of loyal iw that don’t know it come from.For IRONic reasons.
>>98097177Do you think he was upset when he had to replace the helmet on his trophy rack?
Has any book or other resource ever come with a detailed breakdown of the army and campaign badges and their exact meaning? Or has GW purposely left those badges unnamed so you can come up with your custom grand armies and campaigns? Considering how GW now literally sculpts specific campaign badges on their minis, I'm quite confused.
>>98097413gay
>>98097263Good writing
>>98097413making tau more sinister and evil is exactly the wrong direction to take themthe setting benefits greatly from having a relatively tame, mundane, naive race and butting them up against the imperial meatgrinder, the horrors of chaos, the cold mechanical terror of necrons, the brutality of the orks, etc and just being utterly bewildered by that overwhelming destruction and cruelty. it gives a lense to enhance the grimdark of the rest of the armies in the game by having some bright eyed bushy tailed boyscouts to contrast them against, relatively speaking, and every time an attempt is made to grimdark the tau themselves it cheapens that contrast and makes it less impactful if they're just as evil as everyone else
>>98096905>Orks are probably about as known as nids, but orks aren't garaunteed to raze your planet down to bedrock for resources. They might get bored and move on, they might only enslave you. Hell, your local planetary militia might have hired ork mercenaries once or twice. Genestealers can be anybody and if they get their way everything gets vored.On the flipside, Orks take slaves and work them to death. They also enjoy messing with humans violently for "sport", like LOTR uruks do.When the Crimson Fists found the humans in the Ork settlements on Rynn's World, they had been reduced to worse than cattle. Being nommed by Nids may actually be preferable to that.
>>98097439no it isntand too late the tau are already more sinister than the Imperium.This has been a thing for decades at this point in the lore.People that disagree are literally just pinkos
>>98096515Was able to finish my Tau commander even before may 9th. So now I am waiting. I am now trying to bring my self to assembly the SW terminators.
>>98097444>the tau are already more sinister than the Imperium.He actually believes this.
>>98097444>more sinister than the Imperium.lolololol
>>98096515what is this months collage? also was it still hijacked by that stupid decal fuck? i remember that faggot killed the fridge
>>98097448>ruled by an ai>mind control their entire population>can mind control an entire city to kill themselves>mind control and enslave other species >genocide species that don't join them>do unethical experimentation on themselves and other xenos>will gaslight their entire empire live on tv>cover up everything>have their own inquisition that puts tau in body bags for merely seeing something they shouldn't>no one really knows who the people that rule them came from or who they are.
>>98097460>liquidates a population to scoop out their brains and turn them into toilet servitors
tau are so fucking EVILlike the Khmer rouge.
>>98097413Making tau more evil misses entirely their point. They are meant to be a foil to the other more fucked up factions to highlight and emphasize how fucked up the other factions are.People only say "maek tau mor ebil" because they are genuinely clueless dipshits who are the lowest common denominator demographic while also being the lowest form of bottom feeders. Who genuinely think "if something isn't exclusively impreium shit encrusted in skulls then it is not 40k"To argue with these people are pointless because it's like playing chess with a pidgeon, all it does is knockover the pieces, shit on the board and then prance around thinking it won.
>>98097460>abduct young tau girls to turn them into breeding cows
>>98097463Thats such a reddit take anon holy shit. The Tau being sinister was hinted at all the way back to their earliest material.For example the Greater Good literally permitting anything in pursuit of it, including unethical experimentation eg using Tau as test subjects where they die.
What are everyone's favourite/most interesting paint schemes for warham? I'm looking for some inspiration.
do you think the Tau have their own shills like the chinese wumao? like Taumao? or Wutau?
>>98097470Green and brown with some grey.>t. Guard player
>>98097467why are you trying to fit in?
>>98097460>>ruled by an aiAnd Imperium is ruled by centuries old senile old fucks who can't even wipe their own asses while they do nothing but bicker between themselves not doing anything productive.>>mind control their entire populationImperium does this through religion and propaganda and sometimes even use psykers for this>>can mind control an entire city to kill themselvesAnd imperium does this too through religion and propaganda because the people who live in the imperium are basically enslaved cattle>>mind control and enslave other species Imperium regularly enslave other species, like abhumans and then brainwash them to hate themselves because they committed the grave sin of being born>>genocide species that don't join themAnd Imperium who genocides everyone, even their own population because they did the severe crime of bring born with the wrong hair color>>do unethical experimentation on themselves and other xenosImperium does this too>>will gaslight their entire empire live on tvImperium does this too>>cover up everythingImperium does this too>>have their own inquisition that puts tau in body bags for merely seeing something they shouldn'tImperium does this too>>no one really knows who the people that rule them came from or who they are.Emperor is for verbatim this as well.
>>98097470>guard red and black, NOD>SM purple and gold, royal o algofuture dreams beyond my skill>NID bioluminescent ocean deep
meanwhile an average day in the life of an imperial citizen
>>98097467>The Tau being sinister was hintedIt wasn't. It was just imperiumfags who got genuinely butthurt and mad that there were an actually nicer faction in the fluff which made imperium look bad.Like it's supposed to be, imperium is the bloodiest and cruelest regime imaginable, not the Tau.
>>98097488ooh bioluminescent NIDs is a rad idea
>>98097480>>98097486>>98097494trooncorders
oh no, i dont have a point, troooons! communists! AHHHHHHH
>>98097501If true what other organized things do they do on /tg/?Was that guy posting “demoralization thread” on every 40k critical thread on to something?
the tau make this look tame by comparison, they're so sinister
those evil tau, i'd much rather live in the imperium, i'd be well taken care of
>catholic gothic aesthetic>oh my im literally shaking>conformist space communist totalitarian regime with zero freedom>oh my gosh this is literally gay space communism i love it
>>98097506they frequently post bait threads
>>98097513james has done a laudable job appealing to fags tbhdes
>>98097513>gothic aesthetic>fails to mention the abject mutilation torture slavery at the bottom of each image
>>98097460Holy head canon
>>98097513I know you joking but it unfortunately really be like that it though it be better if it don’t.
What’s the most Reddit-coded warhammer 40k belief that annoys you?>inb4 warhammer is redditMakes it all the more reddit
>>98097526that the Imperium are bad guys
>>98097526That the imperium are the good guys.
>>98097526>Playing against your models would make me feel uncomfortable
how many boys is enough to get started? 60?
>>98097371>let humanity physically take over the entire galaxymankind in their prime dont even control 1/10 of galaxy, entire xenos empires still exist between "fully controlled" imperium space. In comparsion, eldar built their webway gates literally everywhere
>>98097526That the imperium are the mid guys
>>98097544false. at its prime DAoT humanity was arguably more powerful than the Eldar, had no fear of amy xenos like Orks and ruled the entire galaxy.
>>98097022What's with the silly dome hat?
>>98097553It's the hat that makes you depressed
CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW!
>>98097526Tau are the good guys.
>>98097526Tau are the bad guys
>>98097549>at its prime DAoT humanity was arguably more powerful than the EldarNo, it wasn't.
>>98097526That it’s okay to play with unpainted models, warhammer is for everyone, “hobbyshaming” etc.
>>98097367DAOT humanity still lived under the shadow of the pre-fall Eldar empire. The Eldar were the most advanced and powerful empire around and if you are familiar with Stellaris, they are heavily implied to have operated kind of like a "fallen empire" form that game. As in, aloof, not really giving a fuck about what the lesser races were doing, focusing heavily inwards and increasingly hedonistic. The eldar didn't really need to have a galaxy spanning empire anyways because their webway system allowed them to reach any place in the galaxy with ease, seeding maiden worlds where they wished and what not, while the core of their empire remained where the Eye of Terror eventually emerged. This is how other races like humanity during the DAOT was able to colonize quite large chunks of the galaxy, as the Eldar simply put, didn't have interest in colonization efforts like that. From what little lore we know of that era of galactic history, whenever DAOT humanity and the pre-fall eldar came into conflict, humanity lost because the Eldar were simply superior in terms of technology.
>>98097526That tournament game win % is a valid metric of "balance" or good game design.
>>98097526ork meme magic
>>98097526Tau are the good guys (for chud reasons).
>>98097566it was, they had ships that could beat Eldar ships effortlesslyI don't know why reddit denies this
Can't wait for point costs to come back so I don't have to see a single retard defend power levels again.
>>98097526Dark Mechanicum is coming... Nothing could be more reddit-coded.
>>98097526That 10th is good or that primaris deserve to exist.
>>98097569this is false, we have accounts of DaoT fighting Eldar and the humans won. And it was easy.Hell a bunch of peasants with access to DaoT tech could fend off the Tau empire effortlessly
>>98097577Every bit of 40k lore makes it quite clear that the Eldar were the dominant power of the galaxy before their fall. It is funny how imperiumfanboys have to be so in denial about this basic bit of 40k lore. The bit about "muh time manipulating black hole guns" to which you are referring to is from a Black Library novel, and the Eldar ship Speranza shoots with that gun isn't even a pre-fall ship, it is a contemporary Craftworld eldar ship.
>>98097526That Primarchs are nice, we need more and they are cool to field on the board of this war game.
>>98097583You have no sources to back up your claims, retard. The eldar have consistently been described as having been the dominant galactic empire before their fall, while DAOT humanity has never been described in that way.
>>98097585they arent and no it doesnt. The actual fact was they were about equal edging out each other in certain areas. Which made direct conflict unattractive since theyd wipe each other out>>98097588go back to redit you actual retardhttps://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Ark_Mechanicus
>>98097577And eldar also had ships that could beat human ships effortlessly.
>>98097599Nigger you are aware that Speranza is a fucking ark mechanicus ship, right? Retarded hfy niggers that think it shooting some craftworld eldar ship is an example of DAOT humanity being superior to pre-fall eldar are utterly fucking braindead.The lore of 40k has been consistent over the fact that Pre-fall eldar dominated the galaxy for 60 fucking million years. Humanity even during their technolgoical height, never threatened the dominance the Eldar had over the galaxy. The fucking PRIME REASON why eldar fell into decadence is because they had faced no challenges in untold millenia of galactic dominance.If supposedly humanity and pre-fall eldar were peers and rivals, that core bit of eldar falling into decadence out of fucking boredom disappears. You aren't an actual 40k fan, you are some HFY nigger who has gotten lost and is under the retarded impression that humanity has to have always been the very best in 40k when nothing in the actual fucking lore of the setting supports that notion.Kill yourself.
>>98097605Somebody who gets it.
>>98096692It means if you roll a 6 it counts as two hits.It's essentially a way to give +1 to hit without giving +1 to hit.
>>98097603https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGbvGVzm-y8>>98097605are you retarded? did your brain break lol?You are just saying im correctThe DAoT had ships that could effortlessly beat Eldar ships even when the Eldar were cheating, Fact. Full stop. Idiot
I don’t think there’s much contest between psychic species and non-psykers like humans. Sure they might have had super advanced AI directed disintegration weapons or something, but a pre-fall Eldar aspect warrior could probably think their ship in half before flying through it and beheading everyone that was on board.
>>98097617>Eldar try to use precog psychic abilities to out fight DAoT.>DAoT ai just say nup>rewinds time and makes sure the missiles hit the Eladr ship anyway.
>>98097622I don't think you understand daot humans the leagues of votann are daot humansdoat humans don't even match current necrons, let alone the necrons that eldar fought during the war in heaven
>>98097616A craftworld eldar ship is not comparable to what the pre-fall eldar had, you disengenious retard.Speranza beating a craftworld eldar ship tells us fucking nothing about the power of the pre-fall eldar. What we know of the pre-fall eldar is even less than what we know of DAOT humanity, but the one consistent part of their lore we know is that they were the dominant power in the galaxy for sixty million years, and that dominance led to cultural ennui, which in turn led to decadence and eventually the birth of Slaanesh.There is literally zero lore that supports your notion that humanity ever challenged let alone threatened the pre-fall eldar in any meaningful way.The craftworld eldar and the dark eldar are pale shadows of the might of their pre-fall ancestors. They are not a decent reference point to what the pre-fall eldar could do beyond mere hints of what power they once wielded.
>>98097616>unironically using a fucking AI sloptuber faggotry as a gotchaYou're genuine fucking retard and more of redditor than anyone else here.
>>98097629you are a retard stfu>>98097631the Eldar use the same technology as the prefall Eldar you head canoning reddit retard.This is purely your same fucking headcanon you push in every thread thats completely wrong
Sorry but what is the difference between a squat and a votann?
>>98097629The leagues of Votan are also quite nerfed from what the DAOT humanity was though they obviously have retained more than the imperium has.
>>98097633oh oh AIDS melty.Facts are facts retard
>>98097634we have rulebooks stating plainly that daot humans didn't reach the heights of the eldar empire you have absolutely nothing for your HFY wankfestsit down and shut up
>>98097635sometimes votann kin become like gypsies and leave votann space and never come back possibly because they are without a Votann ancestor core
>>98097636>The leagues of Votan are also quite nerfed from what the DAOT humanity was thoughNo part of their fluff says that, it says they've retained everything and even improved on it over the millennia since.daot humans weren't anywhere close to the hot shit reddit thinks they were.
>>98097639false. The metric given to describe when a civilisation is at the apex of its power in 40k is if they can control stars.The Eldar boasted of this and so could the DAoT.You are blatantly just ignoring facts to suit your fanboyism because your brain is small
>>98097635>squatThey never existed.
>>98097641False DAoT humans were so powerful the entire galaxy had to band together to stop their robots destroying everything
>>98097642>falseyour headcanon doesn't matter, the canon says the eldar were above
>>98097636The truth about the Votann is they are like the 3rd or 4th most powerful Empire in the galaxy.And they are concealing their power level for example they could probably defeat the Imperium but from their pov its not worth the cost
>Jesus Christ walked in a desert while the devil tried to tempt him to sin.>Rogal Dorn is imprisoned in an endless desert while Khorne tries to plunge him into chaos.Is Dorn the Jesus of 40k?
>>98097653>And they are concealing their power levelNo, they aren't.
>>98097635as per the new lore, squats are a breakaway faction of isolated leagues of votann kyn, primarily on necromunda, and the word squat is actually not what they call themselves but rather an imperial derogative for them. the leagues of votann are a massive but secretive empire of merchants, miners, scientists and explorers based in the center of the galaxy amongst the clusters of black holes in a particularly dangerous region of space.the titular "votann" themselves are the increasingly decrepit supercomputers which run the society of the abhuman clones who refer to themselves as kyn, as well as their mechanical AI companionsthe entire race is actually the product of a dark age of technology automated mining rig designed to manufacture workers and harvest resources, forgotten about and left to its own devices over millenia it evolved into its own society, with its original purpose only vaguely hinted at in now mythological and half remembered stories, and the masters who launched the mining operations long since dead.the votann themselves are being driven mad and senile, bogged down to glacially slow operational speed by the increasing weight of harboring the dead. when a kyn dies, their lifetime of memories are recorded onto a memory chip which is then uploaded into the votann ancestral core and added to the supercomputers databank of life experiences and information, serving as a form of cataloguing, information gathering, racial memory, and something akin to an afterlife or at least treated with that level of reverence.
>>98097634>the Eldar use the same technology as the prefall Eldar you head canoning reddit retard.They fucking don't you fucking retard.Firstly, because the Craftworlders are not remnants of the eldar military, they are descendants of those who left from the empire before they fell in what were essentially trade ships turned into refugee ships. Secondly, because of the nature of eldar technology being heavily based on psychic engineering, Slaanesh's birth imedeately put a cap to what the eldar could do with their psychic tech and powers without risking their souls. Pre-fall eldar were supposedly capable of snuffing out fucking starts with psychic shenanigans, just as they were able to locate stars into the webway as we see with Commoragh. Some devices like the fireheart (a weapon that can destroy a planet by causing it's core to blow up) is also a relic of the pre-fall eldar and it too is a psychic weapon that needs psykers to activate it, which is why the Dark Eldar don't use it as they forbid the use of psychic powers (the deldar are who gift that weapon to the craftworlders in the Valedor novel).Speaking of Dark Eldar, all their weapons are defacto post-fall stuff at least in that they have been modified to not need psychic powers to function, and Dark Eldar have access to shit like black holes in boxes, "dark light" weaponry, and various other extremely advanced shit only surpassed by the necrons. Arguably dark eldar have even better tech than their craftworlder cousins do.In any case, you are fucking wrong. Neither the Craftworld Eldar or the Dark Eldar are a good example of what the pre-fall Eldar had because like the Imperium is when compared to the DAOT, the Eldar in contemporary 40k are fallen remnants of their ancestral glory.
>>98097647That's more headcanon with nothing to back it up.
>>98097657Dorn is a faggot.
>>98097657no
>>98097658they are, they are literally concealing themselves in the galactic core to avoid conflict
>>98097662this is complete headcanon by you a tard.The craftworld and other Eldar use the same tech as their prefall ancestors, idiot>>98097663now you are denying actual basic lore you obviously have some sort of mental impairment
>>98097671So they are cowards then. Not hiding their power level.
>>98097659I find it kind of puzzling that the imperium, at least if we go by the new Mechanicus game, refer to the leagues of votan as leagues of votan, given how the lore of the LoV at least seems to state that they are very secretive about the fucking Votan. Thus logically speaking, it doesn't make a lot of sense that they would have introduced themselves to the imperium as leagues of Votan.
>>98097659some of this sounds like headcanon. Votann are the descendants of early space clones that were sent out to deep space to mine and colonise stuff. They are an offshoot of an offshoot of them.
>>98097679frankly this could just be corporate mandated "call the thing by its product name so people know what boxes to buy" nonsense
>>98097677no its the other way around they are so powerful they dont care and they dont think the cost is worth it since they weigh up everything.I mean one DaoT ai computer was able to arm one imperial backwater world with enough guns to fight off the Tau Empire.The Votann have better guns than the Tau, do the math.>>98097679read the dex, Votann obfuscate everything about themselves. They hide the fact Votann means computer
>>98097674>The craftworld and other Eldar use the same tech as their prefall ancestors, idiotThey explicitly do not, you colossal fucking retard. Like I said with the Dark Eldar, their tech is explicitly shit they have made post fall because pre fall eldar technology was inherently psychic, whereas Dark Eldar abhod psychic powers.As for craftworlders, shit like wraithguards for example are post-fall inventions, because the pre-fall eldar didn't need soulstones or do the weird "necromancy" shit involved in wraithguards and wraithlords. The pre-fall eldar were capable of reincarnation as per the Asurmen novel thus stuff like soulstones would not be needed, or at least not for what the craftworlders need them for in contemporary 40k.In any case, the craftworlders and dark eldar are remnants of a dead empire, there is zero fucking justifications for your notion that what either of them have were the "peak" of what the pre-fall eldar had. The only fucking reason you make this claim is so you can justify your HFY wankery about humanity being totes the bestes for ever when nothing in the actual lore of 40k supports that notion.
>>98097681the clones themselves are produced by the automated cloning facilities run by the votann supercomputers and their templates
>>98097679You are overthinking things. You can't spend the whole video game calling them 'The Short Men of Braxis 5' because branding demands they be called Leagues of Votann otherwise little timmy is going to go to his local WARHAMMER store and ask for a box of 'The Short Men of Braxis 5' and the red shirt might just stare at him like he has a freakin' laser beam coming out of his head.
>>98097689I've read the codex, at least the first one fo them. It just seemed weird to me that the Leagues would even give the imperials the name votann in the first place but it is a minor gripe to me.
>>98097662>>98097674Pre-fall and craftworld's techs are fully based on wraithbone.While Drukhari were forced to develop their own new "tech tree" based on conventional materials.
>>98097692the current kin are made by votann computers but the people they were originally descended from are an offshoot of the men of stone made by the men of gold.The offshoot they descended from fled into the galactic core
>>98097695>It just seemed weird to me that the Leagues would even give the imperials the name votann in the first placethey probably wouldnt
>>98097696Yeah, though there is no indication that craftworlder tech is exemplary of what the best of the pre-fall eldar had.
>>98097696i know theres one faggot who continually posts every chance he gets that Eldar prefall and postfalo are vastly different technologically when hes pulling it out of his ass
>>98097689They aren't hiding their power level, they are cowards.
>>98097693>>98097687Yeah, those are the out of universe reasons for why they are called that in the game. It is just kind of sloppy writing on the part of GW where the leagues lore kind of makes it nonsensical if the leagues are known in universe as "Leagues of Votann" given how they are supposedly super secretive about their super computers.
>>98097701you are autistic and retarded the Eldar are capable of pulling "prefall" tech out any time and have done so multiple times in the loreMy god you are literally applying Imperium rules to them like a tard.
>>98097679they just know the name but have no clue what a Votann really is, and kyn also go to extreme lengths to conceal ironkyn's being AI either downplaying them to servitors or remote automata with a kyn behind the wheel, if a techpriest gets even as much of a suggestion of the truth they kill everyone involved and void the contract
>>98097705Its not because the admech and every one is ignorant to the meaning of Votann.If they said the Votann are STCs thatd be a problem.
>>98097691you are low iq and have dunning kruger no other explanation you insufferable retard.You are completely wrong about everything
>>98097706Nigger, the craftworld eldar can't even use their full scope of psychic fucking powers due to Slaanesh. The entire system of casting psychic powers via runes is something they developed post fall as a safeguard against Slaanesh.The Craftworld Eldar are explicitly a different type of society from their pre-fall ancestors. They are a splinter formed from refugees who left the empire before the birth of Slaanesh. The craftworlds themselves were not military vessels, they were either purpose built for housing civilian populations, or were originally just trade vessels depending on the lore sources you read. There is literally no basis at all for the idea that the craftworlders inherited any of the top tier military hardware of their pre-fall ancestors because again, the craftworlders were not part of the eldar leadership when they fled. They were basically fucking mocked and jeered at by the decadent eldar aristocracy as foolish and cowardly alarmists.
>>98097721You offer no counterarguments or evidence to why I am supposedly wrong nor do you offer any evidence to back up your HFY wankery.Again, the lore of the eldar has been explicit about them being the undisputed dominant power of the galaxy before their fall, and the reason for their fall is because they fell into decadence due to fucking boredom as they faced no challenges in the galaxy.Where is your supposed evidence of DAOT humanity being a peer rival let alone superior to the pre-fall eldar?
im starting to like iron hands but only the 40k version
>>98097634Even if they did, the pre-fall equivalent of a storm guardian could use psychic powers on par with the Magnus the Red.
>>98097696Deldar basically rediscovered ancient Eldar scienceCraftworld Eldar actually improved their tech after the fall like making wraithbone constructs run on soulstones instead of daemons because that was dumb.Both Deldar and CWE have mire refined tech post fall, thats the funny part.>>98097722you are retarded and applying Imperium logic to the Eldar. The Eldar have no prohibition on tech like the Imperium, they didn't regress at all.They still use psychic powers to control their tech, still craft the same weapons and have access to the same wmds.Stop being a dumb fuck and shitting up the thread you fool
>>98097731this is completely fucking retarded
>>98097728you have zero sources or supporting evidence to support your headcanon besides impotently yelling on an anime image board you are right like an autist.You have and will never provide proof because you are an idiot.
i can literally see the faggot on reddit that keeps posting >but but thats post fall eldarredditors are vermin
>>98097732I'm not applying imperium logic to the eldar, you fucking retard. I am not saying that the Eldar lost knowledge or shit like that, I am saying that the birth of slaanesh put actual fucking barriers to what the Eldar can do with their psychic engineering because again, Slaanesh will vore their souls if they aren't careful. Rune casting for example, is shit the pre-fall eldar didn't have to do because Slaanesh didn't fucking exist, ergo they could do far more and powerful shit with their psychic powers without having to hide behind their runes.Pre-fall Eldar lacked Slaanesh as a power limiter to their technology and psychic powers as pre-fall eldar tech was inherently based on psychic engineering. Thus claiming that contemporary eldar tech is the same in terms of power as pre-fall eldar tech is fucking retarded because the later lacked the limit Slaanesh puts on the eldar.>>98097736>says the retard arguing against decades of lore that states that the Eldar were the top dogs of the galaxy before the fall.
>>98097756yes you are you reddit retard. Your headcanon is that the Eldar tech is somehow different pre and post fall.You are fucking stupid and a liar that doesn't understand 40k except from what you read off reddit
>>98097756There are literal multiple fucking quotes describing Eldar technology as ancient and even explicit mention of them using the same ships as before the fall.Kill yourself
stop fighting reeeeee
>>98097579you'll find something else to whine about im sure
>>98097792No
Eldarfags definitely the most autistic faction
>>98097800this isnt even an Eldar fag its a anti-hfy schizo from reddit
if you have to delete posts to win you basically lost
>>98097816The mod is deleting posts from both sides of the argument.
>>98097815get permabanned retard
>>98097823>he doesn't know
>>98096515more nmm practice
>What is that? A hecking argument on my GW slop shilling thread? Can't have that!
navi lover btfohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4aMjOKO-so
>>98096533this fucker just reminds me of sir hammerlock and no one can convince me otherwise. i bet he has the same english accent too
>>98097835Na'vi are literally just blue humans, and people who got upset over Avatar are fucking retards that missed the entire point of the movie which had nothing to do with muh aliens and was more about environmentalism and anti-imperialism. You could put the entire narrative of Avatar on earth and fucking nothing would change. Avatar is basically just Cameron having a what if fantasy about natives winning over colonizing empires with alien makeup on.
>>98097526Objective based gameplay.>I win because my guys stood on circles more than your guys
>>98097835>>98097839Navi and Avatar success is another proof of why this age is literally peak soulless.
>>98097835i hate how you can find clips of things anymore and when you do it has zoomer stoned groid music over it
>>98097526That you can be a fan of Warhammer without picking up a model, plastic glue, a paintbrush, a book or even a video game and that there is a difference between the the lexicanum and fandom wikis or that 2d6 has been good ever since 1d4 swapped to a mobile format
>>98097829for as much as i dislike nmm this looks nice but now upkeep it everyfuckingwhere
The elf stares at you.
>>98097839I find it funny that many people just hate Avatar because it dares paint humans in a bad light. Since basically most humans in Avatar are basically corporate golems who only come to Pandora because they need to make shareholder John Steinberg happy.
>>98097843Most people who like them just like them for the pretty visuals. Narratively they are pretty fucking hollow movies. I for one, received some modicum of enjoyment out of how Cameron bamboozled Hollywood into making billion dollar pro-eco terrorism movies where the antagonist is basically american corporate imperialism.
>>98097858Some people are fucking retards. The humans in Avatar are basically corporate mercenaries. If placed on Earth, they would be the type of Blackwater thugs sent to some fucking amazonian rainforest to kill some tribal fucks squatting over lithium deposits or something.
>>98097858Picrel: Its John Steinber
>>98097857Put the faceplate back on.
>>98097837they both take inspiration from british big game hunters, and they’re both brown for DEI reasons (though 2012 was before it became truly mainstream, so Randy Pitchford/Anthony Burch were innovators in that regard), so it makes sense they look pretty similar.
>>98097732they literally invert most of their weapon only after the Fall, such as wraiths or flyers and even war aspects as powerful military force
>>98097653I'm a huge LoV fanboy and even I don't think that. The LoV are technologically superior to the Imperium but they just don't have the numbers. The Votann themselves act as a hard limit on a league's growth since their planning and expansion hinges on a Votann's processing capability which gradually runs down as it takes in more kin souls. There's a reason the largest leagues have multiple votann.
>>98097674>now you are denying actual basic lorepost where you took that basic lore then, full citation
>>98097857eldar are incels:>It was he who guided us to the Ork known as Ghazghkull, and commanded us to steer his path to your world of Armageddon. Ten thousand Eldar lives would have been lost if he had not done so. What sacrifice is a million humans for such a cause?He knows your affairs better than you do yourself. He warned that weakling seer you call Emperor of the treachery of Horus and the strife which would engulf us, just as it engulfed the rest of the galaxy, but your arrogance deafened you to his words. Your stupidity almost destroyed the galaxy, yet you never knew how close the forces of light were to our ultimate defeat. He saw the Great Devourer and warned our kin on Iyanden, even before they had neared our galaxy.To him all futures are laid out, just as your crude implements of torture are laid out on the cold metal of that shelf. You say we are random and capricious, we say you are vulgar and idiotic. Some of you call us your enemies. All races are our enemy in time. Some of you call us your allies. You are not allies, any more than a butcher’s knife is his ally. You are tools, nothing more. To be used and expended to protect our race, that is your fate.Your kind think you are so magnificent, yet even now, at the nadir of our power, we can manipulate you, turn you to our ends, as easily as you might pull a trigger and fire a gun. Our time will come again, Eldrad has promised us. Once more you upstart Mon-keigh [subject spits] shall kneel before our power! This time we will not be so lenient! We will exterminate you, every world, every vessel, every one of you! Eldrad has seen the stars stained red with your blood, and it pleases him!You think us weak, but we will be your doom, children of Earth.
>>98097858They changed it from having to satisfy corporate jews to earth dying. Why they made this change idk since it now changes it from greed to necessity
>>98097877Unfathomably based actually.Total Mon'keigh death, trillions must die.
>>98097878The sequels pretty much removed the notion of humanity needing unobtanium to save the earth. In them the corporate fucks are there just to kill space whales and harvest their brainstem juices in order to keep Shlomo Shekelberg living for another century.
Eldar sucks man...
>>98097871not true, there's quotes saying they had more powerful flyers and they still have them just not in greater numbers and the same weapons like heat lances or whatever.The key difference is they lost like 99% of their population, so they dont have these things in abundance they still have them.>>98097873its stated in the codex.>>98097874its basic lore that the cybernetic uprising of the MoI occurred and that an alien coalition had to help humanity out to defeat them. Including the Eldar.
>>98097835>so tone deaf he can't see the message being telegraphed decades in advance dude is on a redemption arcnavi and humans will turn out to be panspermic brothersthe great evil is capitalistic industrialisation
>>98097878because its ripped off Alien, Cameron is implying they are in the same universe.
>>98097898Quarich is the most interesting character in the sequels and basically the only reason why I am somewhat interested in the narrative Cameron is cooking for him.
>>98097898you aren't smart communist stfu you halfwit>>98097903yeah its hilarious he became such a fan favourite he got his full redemption arc
>>98097894>its basic lore that the cybernetic uprising of the MoI occurred and that an alien coalition had to help humanity out to defeat them. Including the Eldar.I told you to post proof of this being stated anywhere other than in your headcanon, not to ask your chatbot to rephrase your previous post, you filter feeding retard.
>make an oil wash>rips off a some of the paint>room now smells like white spiritswhy do i do it to myself
>>98097908You are aware that that Quarich is going to go full native and team up with Jake against the Great Satan that is humanity in those movies eventually? Like this is Dark Souls tier telegraphing that Cameron is doing, right? Quarich already got himself a native gf in the third movie.
>>98097835>Avatar 4Humans meet the "Craftworld Navi", and they finally will beat the shit out of them.
>>98097892the thing environloons dont want you to know is humanity can literally create forests in desert.So we can tear them down and we can turn wasteland into eden.
i hope Avatar vs Alien happens. Quarritch vs some xenomorph TRASH kicking ass
Avatar is just Pocahontas with some jumps in between. Cameron is a fraud.
>>98097923Its fern gulley and the game unreal
>>98097912Yah bruled it, yah dingus
>>98097908not a commie, you faggot>>98097913>the Great Satan that is humanitycameron is a hack, he redid titanic within avatar and he's going to redo terminator as well by the end of the movies why do you think he introduced fully automated robots? it's so he can have humans lose control of the machines so that they stop being the great satan and instead end up joining with the navi in the fight against AI-operated unchecked industrialisation
Na'Vi>TauThere i say it.
>>98097930The look of the human tech in Avatar movies has always been pretty cool.
>>98097936everyone already knows kroots are better than tau
>>98097939That's why i keep saying that Primaris are cool.
Have you ever complained or witnessed anyone complain about proxying IRL? I swear it doesn't even exist, unless they say it's fine IRL and then bitch about it online afterwards
>>98097889Even in the first movie they weren't there to save the earth.Even in the first movie they were purely just there to mine shit because they were corporate faggots wanting to mine ore.
they should make a 40k game where you fight the tau as a catachan guardsmen with only a knife
>>98097927not sure what ive done but im gonna have to drybrush over it again
>>98097945Proxy, when well done, is a really smart choice.
>>98097946Yeah, however they made some claims about how unobtanium was supposedly necessary to save earth to justify their shit. The sequels removed even that.
>>98097943Why would you need a Walker with so many heavy stubbers when standard battleline troops are already all the anti infantry you'll need?
>>98097943That looks dumb tho. Why the exposed cockpit? Why waste a space marine to pilot that thing?
>>98097945the only thing ive complained about is seeing a fellow ork player buy toy trucks, add very little to them and just call them a trukk, thought it was the laziest shit ever. they were at a disadvantage as the trukks were mcuh bigger than the actual model but that could still move block a bunch of shit. honestly ive rarely played against someone who has used proxies apart from the odd marine player
>>98097943>>98097945im yet to use my looted invictor warsuit as a deff dread proxy, should be fun when i do
Would anyone complain if I used these as chaos spawn? They look cool, they're almost the right size, and they're like half the price of the horrible official chaos spawn models. Of course I'd use 50 mm bases instead of the 40 mm bases they with.
>>98093492why does that knight have a dark angels shoulder emblem? I imagine killing caliban lions would have been easier if they were a knight mech world
>>98097966I wouldn't but look like shit honestly
>>98097912gotta do a varnish first before an oil wash
>>98097976swear im doing something wrong when i paint on varnish, it feels so viscous and looks like shit when its done, is there any way to dilute it?
>>98097975they look epic, and you wouldn't mistake them for anything but chaos spawn in 40k
>>98097986You need to tone down your /pol/ time anon
>>98097985depends on the brand but yeah if its a water based acrylic varnish you can just use water to thin it.it should be watery thin when you apply it, if its too thick (GWs ardcoat is infamously thick) then yeah its gonna goop up and cloud your model and rip the paint and cause all sorts of problems, and it will leave a sticky finish too
true burger hours, 40k?
>ChatGPT, solve all the world's problems>I can't do that, but here's a piss-coloured picture of a goblin.>>98098014>even this faggot redditor agreesholy shit
>Salamanders>most humane chapter who regularly saves civilians>weapon of choice is burning things alive>"Greetings civilian. You are safe. Apologies for your entire district burning down, the price of war."they didn't think this through very much did they
>>98097974House Orhlacc in lore were rediscovered by the Dark Angels in the Horus Heresy and have fought alongside them on at least one occasion. I put it on as a really really big campaign badge, but also because I didn't have any other good choices to put on the other shoulder I own zero Dark Angels models
>>98098025>that means the military has shit 20 year ahead of that you fucking pleb.the military has jack shit, if anything that should tell you there's no robot jesus coming in your lifetime, retard
>>98098038Yet they are on the best and most beloved chapters, ironic uh?
>>98097977>>98098006>>98098023you going onto a pro AI subreddit explains all this behavior. do you regularly post here? that would explain all the retarded posts I’ve seen here lately.
>>98098038blud a war going on in 40k means everything is getting obliterated regardless
>>98097998ill give it a try, ive got the AK and vallejo ones which are both acrylic. the AK one is real thick and is proper goopy so ill try water it down. havent tried putting it through an airbrush yet
bruh we buy mountains of plastic garbage, we cannot even pretend we like the environment, be real
real goddamn motherfucking nomodels hours
>>98098038That is the fun dichotomy they have. Though at the same time, seeing the type of shit that marines fight on the regular, like tyranids who once invade will actively start terraforming the planet so they can consume it, so using flame weapons that can cause lot of collateral damage is acceptable.
Do you know what space wolves need? Helmets with horns.
>>98098037We quite readily did shit up the environment wantonly before laws against that became a thing. There are people within living memory in the west that were around back when corporations still were able to dump waste water fom factories etc into just rivers and lakes without having to treat that waste in any way.Environmental protection laws are on average less than a century old in the west. They are by large a post WW2 thing.
>>98098053>nomodel american-orange man enthusiasts hoursfixed for you mate no need to thank me.
>>98098055yeah, space wolves would have worked way better as a chaos legion
>>98098052I reserve the right to be a hypocrite when it comes to my special interests, thank you very much.
>>98098055Nothing will save them from being the Furry chapter. Not even a cool army could save that>>98098058Maybe this could do the trick
>>98098053be the change you'd like to see, anon
>>98098052I may be biased, but the plastic we have will be used for our lifetimes or be sold off for someone else to use it for their lifetime, and because the plastic is so small, even if you combined the models of every poster here and threw it in a landfill, it would immediately be covered up by a pile of funko pops 3x the size. >>98098053nuh uh
>>98097371And they were. Physically taking over places and going unga bunga with technology advancements without thinking of consequences or spiritual well being is very pleb tier civ shit.
>>98098092Truth be told, USA collapsing into a civil war would be a good thing for the rest of the world.
>>98098052can say the same with all of the records ive bought over the years
>>98097463Problem with that concept is that it can't go anywhere. Tau are awesome as the first contact guys, but now they've made contact with everyone and been horrified over and over again in little lore blurbs. The next step for them is simply to self destruct through AI turning on them. They can't really go anywhere without removing what makes them good.
>>98098095You sound deranged
>>98098100>They can't really go anywhereThey don't have to go anywhereThe setting isn't meant to be taking drastic strides
Men of Iron or similar robot only faction would be a nice a addition to 40k
>>98098100>Problem with that concept is that it can't go anywhere.And it doesn't need to. Just add in couple of spheres of expansion here and there, 40k is mostly a static setting anyway.
>>98097448how many discords do you moderate?
>>98098108Reminder that every accusation is a confession when it comes to jews.
i think Tau being the good guys of the setting for real is what makes some many imperiumbois seethe about them
>>98098105>orange and tealBASED
>>98098105it's leagues of votann
>>98098114Do imperium enjoyers ever stop seething about anything? They seethe about primaris, about female custodes, about guard regiments from 30 years ago, about primarchs, about everything. Xenos and Chaos players are the only people having any fun in this hobby.
>>98098105We don't need one.
>>98097526Calling it a pile of potential instead of calling it a pile shame
>>98098120Nah, Dwarf nasapunk garbage will never bee the Skynet army this setting deserves.
>>98098121Damn imperium players, ruined imperium
>>98098121Imperium players keep your FUCKING GAME alive, show some respect, faggot.
>>98098126them and necrons are the only two robots factions you'll ever get, deal with it
>>98098131suck my warp-corrupted balls, decalfag
>>98098139>but thats okay because they are never wrongliterally no one said that
>>98098108niggas will think this shit and still say trump didn’t rape kids and peter thiel isn’t building up a surveillance state in the united states with AI.
>>98097943based cameron put bulletproof glass over the front unlike this retarded shit, also if interred quaritches piloted the normal mechs piloted by anyone then the ones in avatar would be dumb too
should i start adding tanks or knights to my army?
>>98098143Good boy, backpeddle away.In reality they simply own the factories making cheap solar and wind, and as usual with chinese subhumans almost every one of their "green" projects only last long enough for a media campaign, countless wind and solar farms are now scrap heaps because these bug people cannot resist cutting corners and lining their own pockets whenever possible
>>98098040Huh, that's cool. Helping fight rangdan and getting to wear their emblem, doesn't get much more badass than that. >Unified with the Imperium in the late 30th Millennium, through the efforts of Lord Commander Suleiman Grimm of the Dark Angels Space Marine Legion, House Orhlacc became a respected ally, their courage and heroism rewarded by the attribution of a Memento Mori by the hands of the Emperor Himself, for their bold sacrifice during the Rangdha Outbreak. >Memento Moriwonder what that is
>>98098163yeah why not, they're cool
>>98098164>backpeddle
>>98098178You don't belong.
What support units should I use in a mostly terminator army? (standard marines)
>>98098184jump pack dudes
>>98098175i mean what should i add first
>>98098195thats not gonna work for thousand sons
>>98098054Y'know their shtick becomes a lot cooler if you really stress the darkness of their world, think of it as some caveman thing, where during the seasons when it's completely dark on nocturne (I think that's how it works) then the "familial" stuff stems from sitting around campfires with the deadly beasts roaming just outside and the flamer weapons work doubly as torchlight, and they have to wander from bonfire to bonfire, keeping their inner fire coming from their loved ones as some dark souls shit.
>>98098176>nooooo i am not a shill>we just need to do what they do cus they are winning and not wrongThey make garbage and sell their own resources to the world for cheap, we could catch up in less than five years that is the most basic level of industry possible. Solar and wind are horrible solutions only invented to feed the plastic producers who want to sell you a new one every few years with maintenance alone
>>98098201i think you're mixed up
>>98098198sorry I got confused I'm retarded, ignore everything I said
>>98098055>>98098058chaos werewolves would make them actually cool and not cringe
>>98098104>>98098109True enough, but it makes them strictly into a tabletop faction, then which is fine, but it's hard to write interesting stories for them. Internal politics within the tau empire isn't very interesting. Tau exploring the warp for the first time and stuff like it was. But now that's over.
>>98098164>In reality they simply own the factories making cheap solar and wind, and as usual with chinese subhumans almost every one of their "green" projects only last long enough for a media campaign, countless wind and solar farms are now scrap heaps because these bug people cannot resist cutting corners and lining their own pockets whenever possibleNo shit China has heaps of conmen. They have plenty of conmen in the building sector too and heaps of apartment blocks sitting empty, but that doesn't mean it's a bad idea to build apartment blocks does it?The decision to shift to green energy wasn't made by those conmen. It was made by the already-rich, high ranking members of the Party who want to secure their own power and riches.They have correctly identified that building solar/wind farms+storage batteries, and getting literally free energy from the sun and wind, is better than digging up coal and fucking up your air.Whether or not China has a lot of solar/wind farms unused, they have an even more massive amount in use. 35-50% of their annual power is from renewables.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-13/china-turns-into-electrostate-after-staggering-renewable-growth/105555850Plant life figured out getting energy out of the Sun was a good idea millions of years ago. I don't know how you still haven't caught up.
>>98098163knights if you plan to eventually sometimes play actual knightstanks or equivalent if you want to stay within the faction, both have factors of cool to them so depends purely on what visually pleases you more
>>98098234Solar + Nuclear energy is the gigabrain energy plan. Fossil fuel industry hates this combo.
>>98098234and lobsters are immortal and axolotls regrow body partsfilling nature with plastic shit that breaks down every 2 years is not "catching up" with nature>>98098241Nuclear is the sole solution. Solar is just nuclear power with an added plastic and lithium middleman.
~imagine all the paint schemes, imagine if they didnt suck, imagine all the eldar and sallies, becoming S tier~
>>98098250then we wouldn't have orange and teal
>>98098241I don't oppose nuclear where it's practical but in many cases it isn't. >>98098245A cost benefit analysis was done in my country (Aus) and it was prohibitively expensive to get nuclear started from scratch, and very cheap to get solar and wind going. So that's what we're doing and slowly closing coal plants.>Breaks down every 2 yearsFactually false, solar panels last 10-30 years.I have known multiple people who got solar panels and they have never had them replaced. I know one guy who has been totally off the energy grid for 5 years (he has his own battery and makes all his own power). I think he might feed back into the grid, not sure.Anyway, he definitely hasn't needed to replace any panels.If you're concerned with "filling nature with plastic shit" then solar panels are your absolute last concern. I see plastic bags blowing around parks and washing up on shores, I've never seen a solar panel wash up on the beach lmao
What the fuck happened in this thread last night?
>>98098105Why haven't they sold this guy alone?
>>98098352zoat and ambull recently got standalone rereleases, so its only a matter of time until he gets put into imperial agents.
>>98098350Cringe.
>>98098350You can always scroll up for context or check the archives if confused.
>>98098350This is what happens when I stop posting Sloppa detachments. All the hatred goes elsewhere and corrupts the thread.
>>98098401if you're present when the thread turns to shit chances are you are the active cause
>>98098199I’m not sure if gw has made it that deep.But at the same time I wouldn’t mind if what you said was made canon.
>>98098350secondaries getting into a fight with a hfy sloptuber tertiary, par for the course, really.>>98098401can you make a sloppa detachment for meltaguns? doesn't matter which army, I just thing meltas are really cool.
>>98098250But eldar already have the coolest paint schemes?
>>98098350eldar vs humanity argument > HFY > avatar > effective accelerationism > china vs usa > trump is a pedophile
>>98097852I felt this one because it reminded me when I was talking with a bionicle fan and asked if he had models and he mogged me with a diorama of them.Complete with homemade terrain he made with his model train enthusiast grandfather.>>98097568>warhammer is for everyoneThis is false.Some people may or may not like it and that’s not a bad thing. I feel like sometimes people have to accept when something just isn’t fitting their tastes.>>98097568>>98098125Hobbyshaming is a weird one.What does it really mean and what’s the Reddit corrupted version of it?>pile of potentialI like this statement as it lifts spirits.Uh oh….
>>98098417>meltagunsDone. Not really a big improvement to be honest unless you absolutely spam meltaguns.
>>98097966field these next to a Lord of Change.Both stolen from The Dark Crystal. Mirelurks are Garthim and LoC is bassicaly a Skeksis.
>>98098424nice warriors of castorama
>>98098491>I collect space wolves by the way
>>98098451That gen reminds me of pic related.I think it is fitting for this blueberry thread.I also think it predates ai gen usage so maybe someone printed this.Still I’m surprised these fake lore pieces aren’t memes in earnestly trying to fool people or being a joke.
>>98098522One would say we are being raided
what happened to destinyfag?
>>98098526I don't think it's a raid.It's just retards being retards because they have nothing better to do.Remember 90% of humanity are dumb as shit, and half of them are more retarded than that.And I know for a fact that I'm part of the retard part.
>>98098537Destiny died so now he is one of us just like Votann Leagues.
Is it a good idea to prime right now? its about 29 c outside.
>>98098551no, it's nighttime, retard
>>98098551what’s the humidity? that matters way more than temperature.
>>98098058>>98098211There are two canon Space wolves turned traitor chaos warbands though. Blood Wolves and Skyrar's Dark Wolves,
>>98098567Imagine neither of those were SW and from some other legion like Ultras or DAngels, and they chose names for their warbands that sounded badass.And now everyone in the Imperium thinks they are just off-brand Space Wolves.
>>98098567>Skyrar's Dark WolvesBassicaly a default warband that exists as. "Hey wanna play CSM using Space Wolf models? "Granted they are propably one of the more recognisable filler Warbands.
Post>Armies you own>Armies you want to collect>Armies you never want to collectOwn>Guard>Salamanders>Eldar>Imperial Knights>World EatersWant to collect>CSM>Orks>TauNever want to collect>Thousand Sons>Space Wolves>Votann>GSC
>>98098515Someone last thread asked for a cavalry detachment. I've taken the liberty of censoring the 'art' to be kind to our eyes. Kojimbo must work for them because the fake quote is by a guy called 'Kavallerie'
>>98098598>own world eaters>will 100% definitely paypig for darkmech if they ever make it>kind of want night lords or word bearers too>space marines never ever, they're just chaos space marines but lame
Give me wh40k set in the men of iron rebellion. Simply make DAoT astartes that look like this.
>>98098598>OwnMarines, units form assorted factions I painted for fun. Technically 500 points of TSons because I have Magnus and some Rubrics>WantFull TSons army. Votann. Night Lords.>NeverGSC. Knights (other than as allies). DEldar. Custards.
>>98098623
>>98098558about 45% according to my app. Feels a lot drier desu.
>>98098598OWN>CSM Slaanesh Side>Space Marines>1 sister model (kitbash)Want to Collect>Mandrake pilled DEldar army>Sisters of Battle>Chaos KnightsNever want to collect>Tyranids>Imperial Guard>Nurlge
>>98098598>Armies you ownNight lords, craftworld eldar>Armies you want to collectSisters, guard, dark eldar, daemons, exodites>Armies you never want to collectEverything else
>>98098637unironically perfect conditions
>>98098598Own>votann>dark eldar>custodesWant to collect (order nonwithstanding)>CSM/IW>Dark Mech>Chaos Knights>Iron Hands>OrksDon't want>GSC>Tyranids>Other marines that were not stated
>>98098598Own>Black Templars>Tyranids>Astra Militarum>CustodesWant to collect>Eldar>Sisters of Battle>Imperial Agents>Chaos Space Marines>World Eaters (when their range is improved)Never want to collect>Genestealer Cults>Leagues of Votann>Mechanicum>DeldarSpace Wolves
>>98098648>>98098648I need more women wearing those chest strap thingies
So, 11th edition box for Sunday preview or not?
>>98098668Monday
>>98098598>OwnOrks, Tyranids, GSC, Ad Mech>Want to Collect*Imperial Guard, Eldar, Night Lords>Never Want to CollectAnything else*I do not want to start any more armies, these are more like "If I hadn't already started the others I would collect these instead".
>>98098656Sweet, ill give it a shot then. I only gotta finish this one model. Im building up the new tyranid prime.
>>98097615So I get extra attacks basically
>>98098699Yeah but I wouldn't describe it as that because "extra attacks" is its own rule that lets you attack with a second melee weapon in the fight phase
>Like Aspect Warriors>Check out other detachments like Spirit Conclave since it's hard to master>My dice get effects and shit>Warlock abilities are really goodNow I want Psykers. I would assume Eldrad is a must have and what other Psykers should I field? I would assume the Farseers and Warlocks on bikes because they can zoom across the table?
>>98098598>OwnDangles, Cadians and Krieg>Want to collectBangles and other tiny forces of chapters I likeMore IG platoons of various regimentsAnything cool enough if I have money & time>never want to collectI like everything, but I'll say chaos knights (Imp knights are interesting, CK not so much) and nurgle stuff. At best I'd get some plague marines and a small assortment of demons but that's just for the collection. Newer stuff is boring and good nurgle is disgusting (that's the point).
>>98098598i only have sisters right nowi am between word bearers or iron warriors for my 2nd, terminator focused army. i also like the elves not sure which type i like betteri will never collect space dwarves or space bugs
>>98098598>Ownorks>Wantemperor’s children, dark eldar, space marines (to paint as marines malevolent)>Nevereverything not listed above
>Sunday announcementsJesus fucking christ. We're in for a drought until mid june
>>98098598>Armies you ownAdMech, DEldar, Deathguard, technically Knights and Demons as allies >Armies you want to collectCSM (Crimson Slaughter), SM (Iron Hands), Eldar (Corsairs), Necrons>Armies you never want to collectDivergent SM, EC, Ynnari, Tau, Votann
>>98097526>codedI'd prefer not
>>98097559As someone who doesnr mind bords i appreciate this.
>>98097327Such skull motifs are not unique to IW.
>>98098598>Own Space Wolves Necrons Blood Angels Imperial Knights>Want Admech Salamanders >Repulsed by Eldar World Eaters Tau>>98098211You don’t know anything
Anyone use aos models in their armors? Mostly chaos stuff cross overs. Khorne and maggotkin have aome really cool models that could be used as proxies
>>98098917Serve out your permaban.
>>98098058>>98098211You're not wrong, tow literally has chaos werewolves
>>98098924If you know who I am just based on those answers then you’re the freak.
>>98098598Own>Thousand Sons>Daemons>Chaos Space Marinesi like armies that have a lot of crossover Want>Knights>World Eaters>Emperor's Childrenthese are also armies I already have shared points with due to the nature of chaos, Deathguard don't really do it for me but I won't say never>Dark Eldar or Eldar Corsairs>Dark Angels >Custodes >Never Want>Space Wolves>Votann >Guard>Tau
>>98098952Come on now...
>>98096462eldar are cleaner than tau
>>98098952NTA but it was your inability to hold your tongue at Space Wolves being badmouthed that outed you. That's not freak behavior, it's recognizing it.
>>98098952How many other people in this general have that exact same combination of four armies? How many people are dumb enough to swap out "Never want to collect" with "Repulsed by" and then put the army you shit on the most at the top? How many people would respond to a post about Space Wolves four hours later getting mad at it because it says they should do be Chaos aligned?You out yourself via basic pattern recognition, it's as simple as that.
>>98096689>>98096682I know it's a point of autism but it's weird Hrud Warrens get a lot of mentions as a threat for 10,000 years and GW doesn't give a fuck at all>but they don't want space skavenokaybut
>>98098986>>98098983No, you are terminally online and keep tabs on me because of your lust for drama, now shut up.
>>98096734nothing wrong with a little autism
I like the Votann except for their incredibly goofy hovercraft minis. Ruins the whole thing
>>98097144I think about the part where this guy gets shot in his head but is still alive because his head is mostly blubber or something
>>98099012What is it with people here and not liking hover vehicles?
>>98096964I think tau are the gayest shit ever but their auxiliaries like kroot, vespids, nicassar and the ones without models like gue'vesa, demiurge, big guys who throw stuff are cool.It's a shame GW won't either bite the bullet and have a Pech Secession from the empire or make Alien Coalition more of a focus.
>>98097322feels more like Bungie Halo lore>last precursors lived on the pocket galaxy in peace with the forerunner subspecies>all got wiped out by the halos or some shit
>>98097306>tau created by necrons, then forgotten>eldar rediscover them, uplift and arm them using Q'orl pheromones and stealing the q'orl apostrophes and idea of being a small alien empire>use T'au as a bulwark against chaos and imperium
>>98098598Own>Space Awoos (40k and 30k)>Space Uwus (40k and 30k)>KaniggitsWant to Collect>As soon as the Vostroyan MTO ships, I'll own Guard.>Squats if they get a bit more Dorfy.>started Mechanicum for 30k, will go Dark Mech for 40k if they ever release>Exodites>had Sisters army, sold it because I just didn't have time to finish it, but still kinda want SistersNever want>Tau>GSC>Dangles>Blangles>Smurfs>really, any more space marines>clown elves>faggot elves>sadistic leather bondage elves
>>98099059>Space Awoos (40k and 30k)>Space Uwus (40k and 30k)>Kaniggitscan you please speak english? awoos and uwus are used interchangeably for furry, so all I’m thinking is that you have four armies of space wolves.
why so many people despise the genestealer cults?
>>98098598>>Armies you own>>Armies you want to collect>>Armies you never want to collectI have like 5600 points of chaos. It's funny because 3 years ago I had none. I also had a lot of visa giftcards that were used in the process so the Emperor's children stuff was nearly free. The thousand sons stuff was all discounted bits. Death Guard was more of a fuckup but we got there. World Eaters. Then souped with generic chaos stuff. Got a cheap second daemon prince body for only 20 bucks, used the extra DP bits on the DP sprue to make a second one. At one point I counted space marine stuff like the land raider in the total, but it stopped being necessary when it blew past 3000 points.Also have about 3000 points of space marines, with the same mindset. Can run dark angels, black templars, space wolves or blood angels+the generican models like land raider.Tyranids but they're all stuff I collected a long time ago, the only new thing is the Broodlord I got along with Brood Brothers stuff for GSC using my swarm of Genestealers.Got orks. Almost got a stompa once.Got a bunch of Dark Eldar and Harlequins for cheap too. Almost got a bunch of corsairs for cheap.>want 3 collectI wanted to collect votann in 2022 but a lot of their models are lame. They went 'in the right direction' with the tyranid hunter and ork hunter ones.Kroot are cool too, but still missing shit (Knarloc) that make them not playable without Tau and I dislike tau a lot. They're lame like guard.Thought about getting a knight once because big models are cool, not the army though.>never want to collectI thought about making a Tanith or Catachan subarmy because I randomly have stuff, but Gaunt's ghosts is a one off and the spectre kill team is 'cadian' and all the new catachan stuff is expensive single models like Carl Weathers, I don't care about the more generic "WE USE TANKS INTO THE TRENCHES BROTHERS" IG regiments, they are boring to me.Tau suck too.Don't care much for necrons or eldar.
>>98099059>>Space Uwus (40k and 30k)>>Kaniggitswhat
>>98099072They cannot see our glory, the glory of the four armed emperor.
>>98099072They look weird, their lore is weird and they are just plain creepy and confusing to look at. Also their models suck.
>>98099072No clue
>>98099069>>98099077Uwus are Emperor's Children, you silly billies.>KaniggitsAnd do I really need to explain a Monty Python reference? On /tg/? Are zoomers that dumb?
>>98099072Because the n*zis playing guard prefer to look like actual WW soldiers instead of minery workers.
>want a kelermorph>go on ebay>new is 30 bucks free shipping>used is 25 bucks 5 bucks shippingWwowwhat a steal
>>98099092i don't get it?
>>98099072I'd like them if they wore cold weather clothing and I could run them as Glorious Soviet Proletariat Uprising.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06jlgpMtQs
>>98096414Hey everyone it's once again time for the collage anchor posts. This month's theme was Big dudes and was left to your own interpretation.I'll try to post an anchor every thread but if you can't spot me write"here is my may collage submission" and it'll be way easier to find you in the archive.Here is the link to next month's vote:https://strawpoll.com/wby5QLM2ByALooking forward to seeing some big models>>98097459Nah it's still me doing it, going strong for one year now. Theme is big dudes.
>>98099108Me neither? I was posting my army to show that I like Genestealer Cults.
>>98099072Because they're way too many gross fetishes lumped into a communist facade. What is there to LIKE about them?
>>98099110>Vostroyan genestealersAll regiments should have cult equivalents.
>>98099117>communist facade????????????? weren't tau the commies of this setting?
>>98099124I was thinking Valhallans but of course Vostroyans work better, especially since so many wear gas masks.
>>98099072Didnt realize this existed. I got into them long ago but then took a break from 40k They seemed fun
>>98099072nobody despises the cult
what the hell covers the Reamls of Ninja and Big robots?
>>98099124I mean you can literally just>regiment x bodies>gsc headAnd wallahExcept catachans because they do not have sex with aliens
>>98099094its spelled “kniggits” and its been years since I’ve last seen it, so I’m not going to remember every reference, fuck you.
>>98099141eldar and imperial agents
>>98099128Read the novel “Ascension Day” it’s literally a Genestealer Worker Revolution. But I like the GSCAnyway this is me being a coomer but why is there no Tau Male on human female smut/porn? The other way has endless stuff but nothing this way
Farseers are cool.
Are we finally free been gone for a while
>>98099059Nothing has made Eldar more appealing to me than you saying you dislike them.
>>98099173Can you leave again? Things have been great ever since you absconded into obscurity.
>>98099184stop permaban evading
Isn't this a bit too manly for warhammer 40k?
>>98099173no, but he does it a lot less because jannies are quick to ban him, and he’s often just passive aggressive and catty in hopes that anons won’t report him (they still will). as a little update, he posted one of his bans where the janny sent a message to him saying “you’ve been banned 90 times”, but he forgot to blur his IP, and it turns out he’s from Springdale, Arkansas lol.
>>98099191This isn’t even remotely funny or charming, is it AI? Seems so lifeless and sad.
>>98099197trying too hard
>>98099195This man peddles lies and conspiracy but his greatest offense is being a nomodels.
>>98099197was probably made by an autist, the closest thing you can get to a living AI
>>98099128>Earth Caste control the means of production entirely>People still perpetuate "Tau or commies" memeI don't get it
>>98099206Are you really defending that gutter filth of a comic?
>>98099215stop ban evading
>>98099207You're the one who posted it, don't go backtracking now.https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/98083416/#q98084243
>>98099173>>98099195Look up the post numbers 98084243 and 98084450 into desuarchive to see it btw.
>>98099227Oh yea true true but I can’t help but notice you ignored the nomodels comment :)
>>98099195nta but IPs aren't that accurateBack when I lived in Washington mine said I was in Olympia but I lived nowhere near there, it's how I found out somebody in WoW was trying to doxx me when they cited the wrong city lmao
He cant keep getting away with it.
>>98099195Lmao
>>98099240Post something you've painted in the last 9 months instead of the same old pictures you've been posting for years now and I'll post my models.
>mfw I realize that warhammer 40k hasn't been good since 2001
>>98099240By the Gods, Old and New, Local and Forengin. You really are that retarded. And here I thought that Tsons collage entry was exagurated.
>>98099258I’m gonna finish my blasties this next weekend, I can’t put it off any longer.
>>98099113I finished a big guy this month.
>>98099258why even bother to engage, dude just outright lied in order to save face. report him so he can get his (97th?) permaban and move on.
>>98099264> Forengin > exagurated I’m surrounded by wild animals
>>98099280You’re engaging adjacently right now you macaque
>I am angry my Primarch's father was a dick to him 10000 years ago>Therefore I will make everyone's lives worse, including mine, foreverChaos Space Marines are this stupid.
>>98099240
>>98099296Wasn’t it implied that Primarchs do have some sort of aura of persuasion about them that affects their men?
>>98099301NOOOOOOO PUT BACK MY DECALSI NEED MY NAZI LARP PLEAAASE
>>98099309It wasn’t a larp it was a harmless joke that you used against me like a demon.
>>98099296>My Dad was a dick to everyone araund him>even to us>to be fair we were also a bit assholeishTake the Night Lord Pill.
>>98099072Never knew anyone who hates them, just complain how pricey they are>T.Admech player
>>98099264Yeah i was trying to be pretty accurate with the wolf on the base.It has the random OSL (why the fuck does he think smoke launchers glow blue??), the shitty staining, the LIMITED
>>98099266stop pretending to him, he’s way to narcissistic to admit he’s been slacking, and he needs to paint something.
>>98099314They’re not meant to be glowing, its the powder left from the smoke coming out. You’re way too good at modeling to not understand such basic concepts like that.
>>98099283I know you're a furry but dont get too excited
>>98098598Own>Cadians, Krieg>AdmechWant>Blood Axe Orks, maybe TauNever>The rest
>>98099334gee why does it look like all your other shitty attempts at OSL then?
>>98099336hehehe
>>98099351Don’t laugh at a twisted mind >>98099319Come on man..
>>98099342All of the “attempts” at OSL are meant for other, completely valid reasons.
>>98098598>Armies you ownSpace marinesOrksChaos space marines TyranidsImperial guard >Armies you want to collectAnything from RT-2E or clowns>Armies you never want to collectThe rest
>>98099369Appreciate the defense brother but they’re not here to be serious, they love tearing modelers down to destroy this place..it’s a sickness
>>98099379I can defend my models on my own, thank you very much.
>>98098598>OwnChaos Space MarinesDeath GuardThousand SonsDark EldarNecronsDark Angels SuccessorSpace MarinesGrey KnightsBit of AdmechBit of Orks.Imperial Knights>Want to CollectGSCTau maybe?>Never want to collectSisters of BattleSpace Wolves
>>98099377>Tyranids>Chaos Space Marinesoh shit, I didn’t realize you collected those too, can you post them?
>>98098598>>Armies you ownGuard. Lots of infantry with heavy weapons and transports, supported by a few russes, dorns, and basilisks. Pretty standard stuff mostly although basilisks don't seem popular and I use more chimeras than typical since I just really like them.Sisters. 40 infantry split in immolators, with castigators for range and Celestine and Vahl as the leaders. Overall my best painted army. Pretty ok win rate but I'm not competitive. People always love seeing 4 immolators lol.Agents. One of each of the Agents codex unique units lead by a character in transports. It's pretty bad lol.I've got some unpainted tau in a box somewhere, I like firewarriors in transports jumping out and rapid firing and all the little markerlights and combined effort stuff they have going on, but I ended up not really playing them much.>>Armies you want to collectI could go for a small eldar army that is just aspect warriors in transports with fire prisms, but it would ultimately play somewhat similar to my sisters list. Specialists in transports jumping out and shooting short range helped by a few long range tanks would be the exact same playstyle so that has stopped me.I guess everyone should have a marine army, and I would do lots of infantry in transports again since some of the new marine tanks have a bunch of guns which is cool. But same thing again....40 or so infantry in transports supported by long range tanks can only be done so many times lol.>>Armies you never want to collectMost of them. I have all the armies I really like aesthetically, and the few that I don't have that I kind of like would play the same so I don't. Plus around 3 armies is a fine number, to balance variety vs storage space and practicality.
>>98098598>ownmarinesworld eaterstaunecronsgsc>wantvostroyan IGwould want red corsairs if I didn't already have red spiky marines>neveremperor's childrendeldareldarnormal guardcuckstodesknights
>>98099388Alright just stop you retard
>>98099262>opens 4th ed rulebook>smells like mom's place>oldcrons intact>chaos primarchs only hinted at, loyal primarchs barely mentioned>exceptional artwork, kopinski, dainton blanche>hobbying advice, rules for kill team, combat patrol, campaigns all included>vehicle facings, templates>custodes are men>high lords of terra are men>creed is a man>literal unga bunga PDFs comprised of neanderthals wielding clubs explicitly canon
>>98099420maybe decalfag is a non-corporeal entity that has trouble with the concept of time? it would also explain why he has trouble painting to a decent level.
>>98098598>ownGrey Knights & Agents 7500~ pointsDeath Guard 4000~ pointsCSM>idk need to sell the models, more than 2000ptsEldar>idk need to throw the models awayGuard 1000~ points>wantProper space marine army maybe? Chaos Knights maybe?>neverspace furfagsvotannreally any xenos except orks I guess
When did it all go wrong?
>>98099430Anyone saying I don’t paint my models to at least a decent level is a liar and a deceiver.
>>98098598>Armies you ownBlack TemplarsSisters of BattleKnightsAdmechSisters of Silence (i am the emperors most silent soldier)Vashtorr and a bunch of Vashtorr-aligned kitbashed models.Random bits from various armies I find interesting, mostly older metal models.>Armies you want to collectBadmech if we ever get it.Imperial Guard parking lot if I had moneyEldarTitans>Armies you never want to collectTauOrksDark EldarVotannOther space marine chaptersI just don't vibe with them, but I wont hate on someone who does.
>>98099438the end of Eye of Terror campain in 2003
>>98099438Female custodes.
>>98099466I wonder if whoever owns those models stripped them or not.
>>98098598>>Armies you ownRaven GuardTau>>Armies you want to collectOrdo Malleus as soon as we get a proper inquisitor kit and new GK>>Armies you never want to collectvotann, they just look wrong in every way
If nobody objects I'll post this comic from 1975.
>>98099471>>>Armies you ownForgot GSC derp
>>98099438Primaris/Primarch.
>>98099473>If nobody objects
>>98099498Fine.
>>98099473comic from what?
>>98099502Imagine going to hell carries there by demons, and when you get there one of them just starts calling you a nigger.One hell of an experience.
>>98099394I got some IW and my retro creations of bileAs to nids I have a bunch but I've only painted a handful. Trying to get rid of them.
>>98099439I wouldn't call slopping on some contrast paint decent
>>98099570Sounds like my type of hell lol
>>98099113>Biggest 40k mini on hand that I could work onI guess I could post the version with the railgun if that'd fit better.
>>98099473Honestly you could post anything from 2000AD or Morrcock and most likely would land on a thing that GW stole.
>>98099638James is a coward for purging the points.
What is the most neutral army in terms of popularity? No one likes it, no one hates it.
>>98099673Slaanesh Daemons.I forget daemons are a stand-alone army most of the time, and I forget slaanesh daemons the most.
>>98099673Genestealer Cults.
>>98099673Iron Hands
>>98099602Can we see your models?
>>98099673Mantis Warriors
>>98099654These lads got downgraded hard
>>98099673Admech
Any good books about the marines malevolent?
>>98099654Unironically a coward move. The Capirote is aesthetic as fuck and fits perfectly with the look of zealots. But because Americans are eternally ignorant of anything beyond our borders the only think we associate pointy masks with is the KKK.
>>98099673Agents of the Imperium
>>98099654Did Kingdom Hearts Sora grow up to be an imperial zealot?
>>98099715they removed it because the sculptor put a noose around the neck of the newer models which was way too heavy handed and evocative of only one specific thing, you can't deflect and say BUH MUH SPANISH PENITENTS
>>98099721twink death is ruthless
>>98099654I know 40kg will spaz out for mentioning TC, but you could always use Trench Pilgrims.
>>98099736While I can see the potential issue, it's only an issue for retarded Americans who have limited to no knowledge of anything going outside our country. The pointed cap goes way harder.
>>98099775No, everybody knows noose + capirote = not a normal capirote
>>98099777I literally care more about dunmer n'wah racism that whatever this is referring to
>>98099673Iron Hands.
>>98099673votann
>>98099775I think these is the general aesthetic IA should have. If they are truly willing to give that weird amalgam a codex make them a real army with zealots, medieval aesthetic full of religious symbols and go full Obscurantism period army.
Can someone explain how units classified as legends work? Is it just rules that will never be updated and are not allowed in competitive games? Or do you have to ask opponents if it's okay to use them in your list?
>>98098598Own/currently collecting>Craftworld Eldar>Orks>Blood Angels but not focusing on itWant to collect>Exodites>Chaos Knights>Tau>Deldar>Thousand SonsNever want to collect>Space Wolves>GSC>glup shitto marines like Iron HandsI do like most armies in the game though.
>>98099802It is literally just rules that don't receive balance updates, usually because GW doesn't actively produce these products any more. Whether tournaments allow them or not is up to the individual tournament, but generally they don't allow them. They're always allowed unless specifically specified otherwise. Legends units tend to be worse than regular rules intentionally.
>>98098598Own>admech>tsons>necron kill teamswant to collect>eldar>necrons beyond the KTsNever want to collect>any loyalist marines>death guard>votann(I just don't like dwarves, their aesthetic is pretty cool)>knights>custodes>orks
>>98099802They're only balanced once per edition pretty much, their sheets are (currently) not in the codex itself but online in their own section, they're not legal for tournament play but I don't think anyone is strongly against using them in most settings.
>>98099777
>>98099787Votann are literally hated by everyone but Votann/Destiny fags lol
>>98099848I know KKK is controversial but that aesthetic don't belong to them only, catholic celebrations in Europe use similar clothes and no one bats an eye.
>>98099883yeah, but those europeans don’t use nooses like in >>98099775the old ones >>98099654 are far more clearly inspired by the spanish.
>>98098598>OwnOnly my 2k Forces but...Marines (Doing a repaint) Guard (redoing the infantry) Knights >WantGK as a weird force (Pic related for today) Nids for a mix of big bugs and small boys Drukhair >NeverGeneral CSM as I would have too much power armor Orks as I already am looking at two hordes Votann as the range isn't fleshed out enough yet
>>98099113Orbital drop forces are pretty Big dudes (for a Tau)
Drukhari win for the Dallas Open GT.Liam VSL winning with weird off meta lists like usual.
N00 thredd pl0x desu (deez nutz! xD)
>>98099961whats supposed to be weird here>wyches with lelith>drazhar and malys with incub/kabalites>hellion murderbrick>scourge snipers>distraction harlequins
>>98099802Legends are usually reserved for niche models or models GW does not make anymore. It's a once-an-edition update that they get. They won't be receiving frequent updates throughout the edition. Most importantly, you cannot take them to official tournaments (and for local tournies you probably need to clear with management first).Essentially, GW will take these datasheets around the back, but they get pity rules for now until that day comes.
>>98100016Drazhar, Troupe Master, Starweaver, Troupe. These were all considered unplayable until this weekend. And only having 1 Scourges with DL, is shocking. That is considered by 90% of DE players to be our best unit and everyone brings 3. Its like trying to be a comp CSM player right now and not bringing 3 defilers. Liam really is the current best player.
>check the Sunday preview>legit nothingOh damn they’re announcing it next week huh. Still unsure if I actually want to get it though.
>>98100115Yeah, they imply as much in the article this week that a big storm is coming after the calm. So expect a 2-week pre-order to start after next weekend
Did anyone bother to gather all the detachments whose new points we already know?
>>98100136Isn't there meant to be a GW preview at UK Game Expo next week?
>>98100177Are you talking about the exposition matches being played to show off some of the new 11th edition rules?
Does the Imperium consider Votann to be abhumans officially part of the Imperium, or do they officially recognize that Votann are their own thing outside of the Imperium? Because obviously they're labeled as Xenos for the rules.
>>98100235I think they consider them potential bolter objectives lol
>>98100235Thats the fun part. When its advantageous they are abhumans and part of the imperium. When it doesnt they are filthy mutant heretics. We havent heard any official word from the High Lords of Terra, which would be the closest thing to a definite answer and I doubt we ever will.
>>98100246Votann traders and mercenaries, are common all the way into the Sol Sector. It really is a sub sector by sector decision.
>>98100258I thought Votann were mostly only in the galactic core, and only a few venture out? I know some ended up in Tau space.
>>98100277They live in the galactic core. But they are part of Necromunda which ya know only takes place on Necromunda, and thats in Sol Sector. They travel all around.
Got the basecoats on the armor and trim done and the armor glued on, now for the washes. I don't know what color to paint the flag yet, should I leave it purple as-is or paint it beige-ish like a tapestry?
>>98100203that was probably it
tfw no clingy tau gf
>>98100364
>>98100305Nice Knight brother.
what kit is this from
>>98100408stop ban evading
>second party third party lego kits
>>98100305>>98100408
>>98100452kek
>>98100427>>98100452crazy, I didn’t think anything of it, but now that you point it out, there’s a 90% chance that’s actually him. 3 words is all it takes to reveal himself
>>98100158All previewed Detachments are 1DP. Most codex Detachments are 2DP. Some will be 3DP like Gladius but not many have been explicitly stated to be.
>>98100452
>Fight Thousand Sons player>Not doing Command Phase, Capture Points, etc>I only have 700>He has over 1k>Ahriman and Mutalist>Immediately lose my Banshees>My Wraithblades get shredded>Dire Avengers fucking dead>Spirit Seer just exists as I can't revive those I lost because no Command Phase>Ignore Torrent>Warp Spider and Lhykhis take out 10 Rubrics but that's itI really need 1k points and the Thousand Sons player needs a Codex badly.
>>98100305Enjoying seeing your work on the Destrier nearing completion. What about a deep red? Otherwise I think the beige tapestry idea sounds good. What purple do you use for your knights, since I am posting to you. I might have asked before but forgot.
>>98100477>Not doing Command Phase, Capture Points, etcwhy the fuck not?>I only have 700>He has over 1kWhy aren't you playing equal points?>Spirit Seer just exists as I can't revive those I lost because no Command PhaseAgain, WHY THE FUCK NOT?>the Thousand Sons player needs a Codex badly.If he doesn't want to buy one just tell him to go to wahapedia
>>98100477Literally use wahapedia, and New recruite.Never play without using the full rules.Look up how to do a balanced board setup or just use GW's tournament ones. The game will never be fun until you understand how to make a balanced board.
>>98100540leeman russ takes dog dick lol
>>98100452Oh fuck lol
>>98100509>why the fuck not?Because he's never done it before apparently >Why aren't you playing equal points?Because 700 is close to 1000>Again, WHY THE FUCK NOT?Because we weren't doing it?>If he doesn't want to buy one just tell him to go to wahapediaHe does, I don't event think he's using a detachment to begin with.
>>98100452this might be the best one yet
>it actually was himliterally three words, and they found his ass out. this fucking guy is so obvious its insane.
>>98100452Is this directed at decalfag? I would assume yes because:>Leman Russ aka Space Wolves>Knights
>>98100585700 is not close to 1000pts. A normal player with 1k, would beat a top 10 player in the world commonly with that large of a points difference.
>>98100452could you do one where the mutant is crying over a pile of dead wolves with a marines malevolent pointing and laughing at him like in >>98099377
Should I use one of my gunpla models as a proxy for a centerpiece unit?
>>98100540>Can you imagine spending time creating this garbage?Can (you) imagine returning every day to a thread that mocks you instead of just going somewhere else? I play knights with a cringey theme and even I don't want to be associated with you. Yet here you are. >>98100585NTA but you HAVE to get the phases and actual matching points. 20 points off is fine. 300 is not. Especially at 1k.
>>98100585oh ok, well 300pt difference is big difference so you should try and play equal points unless your playing a certain mission that takes into the points imbalance.Command phase is a very important since that's when battleshock happens, so you really should be playing with it, even if it's just for that.Hope you learn the game with your friend fast so you don't need to make retarded posts again.
>>98100612MG's are about the size of a Geater daemon, HG's are about the size of a DP.
>>98100610away with you zoomzoom
>>98100612even for tau that would stick out way too much, and be kind of tacky. definitely clear it with whoever you’re playing with, and make it known you’re using a full on gunpla instead of a simple 3D printed proxy or something like that.
>>98100598Yep. Made it a while back when another anon was posting his titan WIPs... and it still holds up perfectly lol>>98100607Maybe. Usually it's just reactive art to Decal doing something super-lolcowy, like when he was posting from the work lunch.
>>98100672>Kinda like the cloudy blue and Norse themes of Space Wolves>Everyone associated with them are all weirdWhat other faction in 40k has fags like decalfag for example?
>>98100628>MG's are about the size of a Geater daemonBullshit, I know damn well they're taller than that. Wouldn't a Lord of Change be the size of an HG?
>>98100688i'm inculding wings in this comparison.
>>98100682Hopefully none, would be a disgrace for such faction have an austist of that caliber.
>>98100697That looks either like an HG or RG. That don't look like an MG.
>>98100697
>>98100697and ignoring that this model can't really stand upright without a stand
>>98100682Only one I can think of that tarnished their factions reputation would be the Irontard for Iron Warriors. He had pretty similar meltdowns including the anons who would be nice to him and explain why people are being mean to him only for him to never change. After he left, you couldn’t bring up Iron Warriors for a while without him being brought up.
>>98100672You really are the most pathetic person on this board and your art is atrocious and crude at best.
>>98100705actually you are right that is a 1:144 hg, I mixed up my kits.I'll post an updated comparsion with a LoC next bread.
>page 9>Image limitOh yeah, it's baking time. NO MUTANT ALLOWED>>98100776>>98100776>>98100776
>>98100623>Hope you learn the game with your friend fast so you don't need to make retarded posts again.kek
