Dynamic entry edition Previous Heresy: >>98078835>HH 3.0 - Complete gofile - All Books:https://gofile.io/d/cnJk0N>Titanicus Compendiumshttps://gofile.io/d/qdYzem>New Edition, to a great wailing and gnashing of teeth:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/setting/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS>30k TACTICA & TIPShttps://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLphttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/3.0_Tactics/General_Tactics『Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis』>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloadshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/legions-imperialis/>List of Titan Legions with Badges and Colourshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jccq0V--SwJifLVLwbisYnQeqLlS2pMSiPbGXp1Brs/htmlview>More listshttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Titan_Legions>What size magnets do I need?5x1mm>Tacticshttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Adeptus_Titanicus/Tactics>Legions Imperialis Army Builderhttps://legionbuilder.app/>Thread Question:What's a playstyle you want to try but would be too much a pivot to make with your current force?
>TQIron Hands Immortal spam for Zone Mortalis.
Going to my FLGS (friendly local game store) RN (right now) to buy JTTBoT (Journal Tactica: The Battle of Tallarn – Part One), are there any other journal tactica you guys recommend I pick up?
Re-asking in the new thread. Would a mix of the pictured Grey Hunter armor and Mk IV and Mk III armor be late Heresy/Early Scouring appropriate for Blackshields? Or would it be an unacceptable combo and bring dishonor to my family?
I mean those grey hunters and bloodclaws wear armour that was used in HH.
>>98100424what kind of blackshields are you thinking of running? skyrars dark wolves?
Finished painting a Thanatar.I now have 20 primed Tech thralls staring at me from across the room, judging me.
>>98100521Nah, feral world/barbarian raised inductii blackshields who brought their home culture with them. Ambiguous blackshields who have case off any and all mention of their Gene Father and fight for the Emperor and their own purposes. /mydudes/ in 40k split off at the Heresy and still use what they can of Mk III and IV armor, so I thought I would just make a Blackshield army and run them in 30k while I was at it.
>>98100229More acronyms please fag
>>98100837IWTHNT (I will try harder next time)
>>98100129>TQAt that point, I suppose there's the question of whether to expand on an existing army or starting a new one. My current collection is probably fine for infantry but would have to buy into a given archetype otherwise, but it feels like way more niche styles like Tarantula and Araknae tower defense would require a lot more commitment for something that might get played a handful of times.On a similar note, managed to get a on-sprue Skitarii Marshal model from the Imperium magazine for cheap at a swap meet recently, and might have to figure out how to make use of him for 30k. Guess substituting Pilgryms aesthetically is too easy?
MKIV refresh coming I can feel it
>>98100129>TQBikes and vehicles. My collection is very infantry and dreadnought heavy with only a few rhinos for mechanization. I have a bunch of 40k sruff I plan on stripping and redoing, but I keep telling myself I'm not doing that until I finish the new models I already bought and have been putting off assembling, which I think is another 40 infantry, 3 dreadnoughts, and 10 terminators.
>>98100424There are like two beakie legs there to use, the weapons, pads and some heads that are not mk7 are ok to use as well. Honestly if you're gonna use all the parts JUST play 40k.
>>98100531Looks fine. I suppose your base is a bit boring, a big base like that has so much potential.
>>98101309We already have a mkiv at home, no need for a downgrade, piggy.
>>98101525Nta but didn’t they show a new version of mkIV in the 3.0 rulebook? Hope it at least ends up better than the lanky cataphractii.
>>98101303I'm using one as a force commander for my tech guard militia, but that's a rather niche use case
>>98101568It won't. The artwork for the new not!catas looked acceptable too, yet the models are absolute trash.
>>98101646I would be asking how much worse could it be, but this is GW we’re talking about. On the other hand, it’s basic bitch power armor. They’ve had mkVI, III, and II to learn from at this point. As much as people hated on III, I personally don’t really mind it outside of the helmets, which can mostly be mitigated with some spare bits.Really though, I just think mkIV will suit my legion better, so I’m hoping a for a better scale refresh.
I want inspiration for a planet assimilated into the Imperium. What changes and what remains?I know what Galaspar was like before the Death Guard, but idk what it was like under their dominion. I heard Galasparans were actually grateful, but idk how it was like
>High Command: Spartan Command Tank>Command: Delegatus, 3 centurions>troops: 2x11 tacs>Apex 1: new tank detachment, 3 preds wit max lascannons, pintle multimelta, hunter-killers, decurion locus, and the suspensors prime advantage>Apex 2: new tank detachment, 3 preds wit max lascannons, pintle multimelta, hunter-killers, decurion locus, and the suspensors prime advantage>Aux 1: Heavy assault.2x6 mortalis destroyers>Aux 2: 6 mortalis destoryers , 6 tartaros siegers Heavy assault>Aux 3: Heavy transports 2 land raider ares>Aux 4: Heavy transports 1 land raider ares, 1 land raider carrier>Aux 5: Heavy transports 2 land raider carriers>Aux 6: 4x all-volkite predatorsbased or cringe?
>>98102028There are only 3 command slots, so you can't have a delegatus and three centurions. Besides that it is the kind of list you're suppose to make for playing the armoured spearhead missions. Outside of that it is an illegal list, the armoured command squadron detachment is only allowed to be used when playing spearhead missions.
>>98102028Decurions must be visually represented by a model placed in an otherwise empty cupola or hatch. Meaning a predator can't have a pintle-mounted multi-melta and a decurion at the same time.
>Legion Despoilers>It's just a dude with a chainsword and bolt pistolWaste of a cool name imo, could have just called them Assault Squad.
>>98102090Surely you can model the Decurion wielding the multi-melta?
>>98102123Assault Squads work differently in HH, they use jump packs exclusively and have different rules.
>>98102071>Outside of that it is an illegal list, the armoured command squadron detachment is only allowed to be used when playing spearhead missions.It don't say that.
>>98102136It literally says the detachment is only available when playing armoured spearhead missions.
>>98102127Decurions aren't allowed to take a multi-melta as an upgrade. And if the predator takes a pintle-mounted multi-melta, it no longer has an empty cupola to take a decurion in.
>>98102123In 1.0 Despoilers were just Tacticals that swapped their bolters for chainswords. The name existed only in fluff, like Hellfire Dreadnoughts. In 2.0 they made them their own unit so they could be given pistol and power weapon options without buffing tacticals in any way.
>>98102028>CommandAs anon noted your list is illegal, you only get 3 Command slots and hence cannot take a Delegatus and 3 centurions, so you can't take 6 auxiliary detachments either>3 fucking Armoured Fist detachmentsWhy can't you put all of the LRs into 2 detachments, You don't even need 6 LRs, just put your Tacs in Rhinos>list in generalWhere is your anti-AV14, your entire list gets countered by a melta KratosTake a Xiphon with the prime advantage on your Tacs, you have literally zero Skyfire>>98102127Pretty sure you can as the Decurion Defensor's gimmick is literally reduced charge distance if you manage to kill a guy with the pintle mount on volley attacks
>>98102205The decurion defensor specifically allows you to take a pintle-mounted weapon. The decurion locus does not.
>>98102208Defensor REQUIRES you to take a pintle mount. Locus doesn't say anything beyond the blanket requirement to put a suitable model in an otherwise empty cupola/hatch. Unless you think the Defensor cannot be modelled as manning the pintle mount I don't see why the Decurion Locus can't use a pintle
>>98102298Because the defensor locus doesn't have a rule that allows taking a pintle mount. And a hatch with a pintle mount upgrade is not an empty hatch.
>>98102127>>98102090it depends on the DecurionDecurion Defensor must have a Pintle Mount taken for it, Decurion Lanius and Decurion Saggitar specifically forbid you to take a Pintle Mount (because they come with one anyway), Decurion Magna and Locus can go either way because it's not specified>>98102028illegal list, too many Detachmentsyou'd get tabled in 30s when your Tacticals evaporate regardless, you're not going to cap objectives with Command units, you literally cannot score enough with your Vanguard units (even if you put command models in them, they'd still be Vanguard and only score when clearing objectives) and Vehicles cannot scorebeyond that you simply don't have enough shooting to deal with a Line-heavy list, your Predators won't be enough and will die rapidly, I don't even know where you're getting Land Raider Ares from there hasn't been a ruleset for it in like 15 years, other than that you have like 30 shots and they're all lascannons so the first Knight Household you meet is gonna roll you, and you're gonna get fucked in the ass over the table if you try to take on cybernetica
>>98102171What is the sense behind having a detachment that people want to play with, but only when playing missions no one plays, because no one bought the books.
Ah, GW is just garbage at writing rules as usual, just to force you to purchase their resinslop.
>>98102447If nobody bought the book they also wouldn't know about the detachment, retard.>Hasn't experienced mission-specific FOC chartsTourist.
>>98102529Anon you know very well what I ment. If I would say that no one is a billioner, you very well know what that means. If someone says X unit/Faction/etc doesn't work, jumping in with a "in my ultra rare narrative scenarios they are good all the time" is just stupid. Most of the stores around the world couldn't even order the books for their customers. And again the question stands. People want to play all bike armies, all tanks armies, all terminator armies etc. Many only started HH just to play those. And now you can have scoring bikes in one scenario, guess you are going to play it for the rest of edition, same with the tank guy etc.
>>98102529Anon, FoC have been a thing since 3ed. Am I to think that the only true non tourist warhamer fan is from RT/2ed?
>>98102538People can still play those armies. They just range from harder to win with (bikes & tanks because no objective scoring) to entirely viable (terminators) You're just assmad your skew list no longer allows you to win with zero effort.
My first beakies
>>98102567What legion are they going to be?
>>98102559Tank and bike armies were not "zero effort" winning in 2d. They could win, now they can not just by virtue of core rules aka not being able to score.
>>98102567Are those underslug rocket launchers. Very nice.
>>98102568Fists
>>98102571They still can win. There are ways to get VP without claiming objectives in every mission, and denying the opponent the chance to claim objectives has very high impact on a game's outcome. You just need to have a good game plan, and understand the rules. You can't just steam roll over opponents because the opponent doesn't have the right units to deal with your skew list any more.
>>98102576>Doesn't know what heavy bolters look likeWhat the actual fuck. Is this your first time being exposed to anything Warhammer related?
>>98102586if your opponent plays the regular 3xtactical list, and goes first, you are not going to win even, if you start killing meq on above avarge rates. You can't even unflip objectives in certain games meaning your full bike army loses turn 1. And again "skew" lists were not tabeling ANYONE in 2ed. Even the dreaded contemptor spam list. If they really bothered you, there was graviton pistol armed IH moritats to ally in.The difference about skew lists from prior editions was that you could have asked your opponent to adjust their lists to play your fun lore accurate list. Now your options are to not play the list you want, to a point where you start to wonder why you even have a single unit of skyhunters or javelins or regular predators (as in the not obligatory 2xconversion beamer ones), or you and your opponent have to sit down and rewirte the whole game.
>>98102594If it doesn't have a belt feed it is not a heavy bolter.
>>98102607Behold! I bring you anon's heavy bolter!
Bait used to be beleivable.
>>98102629Primarishit doesnt even look like warhammer designs at all....looks like a modern doom game weapon (not one of the good ones either...)
>>98102603Yeah I'm not gonna bother replying any more, because your lack of game knowledge is just painful. And you clearly only care about winning, there is no point to trying to teach a WAACfag that there are other aspects of the game that people enjoy.
>>98102635It's depressing how much everything is turning to shit, even the trolls aren't what they used to be.
>>98101568>>98101646>Arts farts and sharts formerly chucks
>>98101833They lived happily ever after but probably got nuked during the scouring.
>>98102635>>98102676>shit thing rocks>Cool thing sucks>Get many (you)sOn one hand, why would they bother doing anything else?On the other, their laziness means as they get worse & more obvious they're easier to spot & thus ignore.Still, any spec of time/energy taken to deal with it is a crime.
>>98102123I lovey despoilers for 2.0. Here they are, aren't they lovely?
>>98102607belt feed is optional
>>98102839Everything that have a belt feed is far superior in aesthetics vs no belt feeds
>>98102182Didn't we have rules for mortis variants of certain dreads which is kinda the same thing as hellfire?
>>98103139Hellfire is missile launcher + other gun. Mortis is two of the same gun. Furioso is two close combat weapons.
>>98102629uh no that's a mk7 helmet with a mk4 faceplate, learn your place, plebe
>>98102576>>98102594he's not wrong, exactly, all bolt weapons are technically rocket launchers
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>>98102835very cool much wow
>>98102842Not really. Well, I ordered a platoon of Vostroyans to complete my collection. Sure, I bought some when they were released and some more in the last MtO but now I have enough metal models I can remove from the board with a shovel when playing them as militia.
>>98103240forgot pic
>>98103177>Furioso is two close combat weapons.Isnt furioso the BA special one?
>>98103302In as much as Mortis is DA special one.
>>98103332So "yes" then. Also the furioso had a gun option.
>>98103346GW added guns to the Furioso unit options, but the pattern with two first is what's called a Furioso the same way an autocannon predator is a "Destructor", twin-lascannon is "Annihilator" and one with Flamestorm Cannon or Magna-Melta is "Infernus" (unless it's BA one with the improved engine, then it's a "Baal").
Never understood why dreadnought bayonets were never a thingStrap a power sword onto the guns, boom you have a rifleman that doesn't hit like a wet noodle in melee
I'm alpharius, I'm on a mission, I need to find and eliminate the target. Who?Dan abnett, that fucking faggot, I swear I'm going to beat that faggot to death, I don't care how many years he has been working with gw and how much he has contributed. He will not be forgiven for what he did to the legion.
Titanicus checking in. Need more discussion about the greatest wargame ever made.I really enjoy playing interfector. I have two ferrox maniples. Most of the titans go up in mushroom clouds, but the reavers are built to be absolute mad men - they’re fast, if they get in close they hit hard with their meltas, chainfists, and bolters with static rounds. Their princeps senioris traits let them shrug off a catastrophic hit, and the next time they take one they’re guaranteed to go boom.
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>>98103215now it's just artificer mk6 anon
>>98103346>>98103177originally? no, the Contemptor ("Chuck") was the pure-melee option
>>98103614Nah they are a lot closer to new mk3 becauseof the legs, I just cut those flaps above the knees and put mk3 heads when I have them, you can also just use default primaris heads since they look like mk4 heads and there's nothing wrong with mixing different marks
>>98103505>Strap a power sword onto the guns, boom you have a rifleman that doesn't hit like a wet noodle in meleeAnon its still trying to slap people with the barrel of its unarticulated guns.
>>98102336>your Predators won't be enough and will die rapidlyThey wont. The average list simply does not bring "mass" AT. You have the likes of kratoses and laser destroyers that will gladly pop a predator a volley, but thats simply a LOT of predators with a bunch of land raiders to boot (and likely as the priority target). Predators are not "tough", they will fold when the appropriate weapons are pointed at them, but those weapons are no longer "one multi-melta", the meta favors big guns over the number of guns, and the big guns are not good at splitting their fire or dealing with multiple targets.
>>98103550this and the old CSM termi bayonettes, kino
>>98103993They also counted as a close combat weapon. They really should've given all terminators bayonet options for +1A.
>>98102447>why is the detachment intended to push tanks only for the "youre meant to use tanks here" missions?Because thats how those missions go? Also the command tank doesent unlock an apex slot, it has its own special thing.
>>98103976Even a mere tactical squad will rape a predator in close combat by shoving krak grenades up its ass. A fucking tactical squad.
>>98104087>in close combatHave you tried not charging tactical marines with your predator then? Theyre a ranged unit, use them like one.
>>98104098>Thinks tanks can evade infantry charging them>In Rhino Rush 2: Electric bogaloo: the editionHow to say you're a nogames without saying you're a nogames lmfao.
>>98104116Yea man, ever since they gave rhinos 30" movement theyve been really good at getting into the backline!The rhino rush is powerful because it has a 19"+ threat bubble that allows it to quickly get units onto a midfield objective/target dipshit, not because it instantly teleports on top of something in the backline (which is where a lascannon predator is going to be, it has 48" lascannons)
>>98104131>nogames armchair general doesn't know having to move to get LOS existsEvery time. Sad.
>>98104190>los is only 12" trust me guys no one has ever shot at long range!
Is HH all about gunlines and melee sucking ?
>>98104116If Tacs are charging a tank then either one or both players have made some incredibly retarded decisions.
>>98102123>>98102134>>98102182So i genuinely used to think this was some primaris era bullshit as assault intercessors and jump pack assault intercessors were separated and it took forever to get jump pack primaris Looking over it assault squads before primaris actually paid for jump packs but it was such a minuscule cost you almost always picked jump packs because jump packs Apparently blood angels had a nasty tactic in rhinos with foot assault squads but generally people just used jump packs
>>98103220You really love this guy, ha? Haha. I am tempted to send it to you as a present.
>>98104511Yeah assault squads in pre 8th 40k could be taken with or without jump packs but like you said it was more of an oddity. The intercessor split is somewhat closer to 30k as assault intercessors have better obj control than jump assault much like despoilers to assault marines
>>98104511The incredible thing was that assault squads came with the extra torsos and backpacks to make standard marines AND the torsos and jump packs to make jump marines, not this two kit poppycock.And the running poses were retarded.
>>98104511You were werido for buying the kit and NOT using jump packs. They were like what 2 points to purchase? It’s like guys who were to lazy to use split devastator squads
>>98104412Depends how much terrain you use.The game is pretty objective based though, which means "sitting back in your deployment zone" isnt a viable strategy. You need to be out and actively control the map to some extent, which means getting into melee range. But generally:Guns are where you have your tank killers and have easier and safer damage than meleeMelee has a higher damage output, but its more situational for obvious reasons.A veteran squad with thunder hammers can do in one turn what a gunline does in several, but they need to get that one turn, which isnt certain.
>>98104532>>98104511Bruh This is also news to me I thought they were just jump pack only
>>98104532>>98104542I’m gonna say it the playerbase were just as guilty for the creation of primaris just like GW. The Devastator squad was the biggest example of a playerbase being too lazy to care about flavor >Ooo mixed squads are to complicated >Ooo consistency with dice rolls>Better damage >Noo you didn’t kill my last canon you killed my shitty sgt
>>98103417If I am not wrong, Furioso was the name of a dreadnought from the Blood Angels back in the 2nd edition days. Later they used it to create a special pattern. In the early official photos the dread with Furioso banner had a multi melta and a fist.
>>98104585Yeah but you obviously didn’t kill my grav cannon you killed the heavy bolter guy
>>98104585>Noo you didn’t kill my last canon you killed my shitty sgtGenuinely hate these faggots especially when they cherry picked casualties
>>98104603Tell us how you feel about artificer tanking, Anon :^)
>>98104585Weapon mixing only makes sense on tacticals, I’m sorry but mixed Devastators were always just lacking in killing infantry or tanks. Even lore wise it makes more sense on tacticals
>>98104585IMO, that's an argument for more abstract rules. I.e.: Forget about having to equipt all Devastators/Havocs with the same weapon, just give all the same profile, or reduce it to anti-infantry/anti-vehicle.Unironically, 40k doing that for combiweapons was a good idea, and the HH should do the same for chain and power blades (at least)Fuck having to choose between hunting for bits or having a nice varied squad.It makes no sense at the scale of this game.
>>98104632Weapon mixing was only good once everyone got split fire, which was 8th edition.
>>98104658Ain’t that ironic
>>98104532>>98104511Huh I thought the primaris thing was the same nu 40k bullshit I guess you learn
>>98104585Devastator squads look better when they all have the same gun.
>>98104532>>98104511Here’s a bigger truth nvke, you never noticed this because everyone and their mother mostly decided to use Vanguard Veterans over regular assault squads
>>98104794because they could charge from DS, which was always op
>>98102123>>98104511Pretty much despoilers are only really a heresy designation and I think it’s kinda shitty when it’s just assault squad on foot vs assault squad with jump packs
>>98104828Tactical melee squad doesn’t roll off the tongue
>>98104640get out
>>98104511>Looking over it assault squads before primaris actually paid for jump packsI thought it was they came with them by default but could drop the packs and get a free rhino to go with them
>>98104640Theres some room for it "heavy melee weapons" is a good one. But no, the fidelity is where a lot of the fun comes from. The ability to have a squad with autocannons function differetnly to a squad with volkite or lascannons is what makes the system work because its where so much of the listbuilding comes from. You can have two people use roughly the same units and end up with two very different lists and thats GOOD. It has its weaknesses, but on the whole "specific weapons" are far superior to "everyone just has a "devastator gun""
>>98104837It would if the bolter marines were "tactical ranged squad".
>>981046401.0 had a nice upgrade for tacticals that was +1A which was meant to represent all the generic melee weapons a marine would carry on top of his basic knife including the various types of bayonets.
>>98104640>40k doing that for combiweapons was a good ideaNo, it wasn'tThe only way bunching all combi-weapons into 1 profile would be a good idea would have been to make them have a decent change to wound any target. Instead they are slightly better bolters against infantry. It'd retarded
>>98104897I mentioned 40k Devastators/Havocs because their kits do not come with enough guns of the same type for all marines.30k HSS are another story, so more granularity is ok.>>98105177Good idea, bad execution. But still a good idea.What I mean it's that kit convenience should be a factor.It's retarded that power swords are the weakest power weapons when they're what 99% of characters use. All power blades should have the same profile, so you can mix them in squads without fear of losing advantadge or having to deal with clunky multiple profiles when they're pretty much the same in the fluff.
>>98104640In the current circumstances it made sense for 40k to just crunch all combi weapons to a single profile. The community refuses to use legends, the kits have jack shit for extra weapons, and GW only will make rules for exactly what the box can build. If you had a squad built with all the same combi weapon and then GW came out with a Sternguard kit with 0-1 each of combi flamer, plasma, and grenade + 2 bolters you'd screw anyone with old units.Horus Heresy doesn't have these problems. I've yet to meet somebody who doesn't play with legends, you can buy sprues of whatever weapons you want, and so the rules reflect that you can kind of build whatever. If you decided to fold everything down to like one handed chain weapons, two handed chain weapon, small power weapon, big power weapon, you are making the upgrade sprues and all the kitbashes people do pointless. Not to mention it doesn't make sense to streamline in a meta scenario where it's even more marine vs marine than 40k and every bit of additional difference added between armies helps.
Have my work for me cut out in this blasted heat wave. Doubly since I havent figured out what color to do the plasma. Orange maybe? I would do pink but thats what I used for volkite. But I think I finally managed to have two batches of spray applied that look more or less the same.On that topic, can anyone recommend a good way to get paint into a dropper/mixer bottle? Because "just pouring it in" is wasteful when the GW pot is nearly full.
got bored of militia and my SoH so I painted up the first half of this here breacher squad, anyone else building or painting anything cool?
Plasma is blueVolkite is orangeGrav is greenIf I see models that don't use the canon colors I smash them with a hammer
>>98106329>Volkite is orange>Grav is greenYou retarded nigger, Volkite is GREEN
>>98106337?
>>98106329Plasma is whatever color you want it to be.
>>98106401>BL book cover>BL book cover>videos game screenshot>videos game screenshot>FW book artLiterally none of them are canon
>>98106597>contradicting sources posted: 0/10>you tried
Plasma is blueVolkite is blueGrav is blueI am colorblind
Weapons can be whatever colour you want, whatever best compliments your dudes.
Using Shattered Legion rules to make an Imperium Secundus army, bad idea or good idea
>>98106938Bad, the shattered legions are broken survivors that band together after the chain of command has been shattered and the bonds of loyalty (or treachery) all they have to depend on, which is why they form such mixed units. All 3 imperium secundus legions were led by their primarchs, were fully supplied, and had no reason to mix commands. You can have allied squads from other legions sure, but shattered legions rules don't fit.
>>98107036>but shattered legions rules don't fit.Thanks, duly noted
>>98106258Arent cruxes post heresy?
Are stormhammers pre-heresy friendly? I have a recast one coming and im thinking of doing it up for my Iron Warriors...
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>>98106938>>98107036>>98107041>rules allow thing>ERM ACKSHUALLY JUST BECAUSE THE RULES LET YOU DO IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S CANONHow do you fags function with so little brain development?
>>98107319>How do you fags function with so little brain development?I meant more from a thematic sense, IDK why you're so hostile to the idea of someone wanting to make sure an idea fits.
>>98105623>All power blades should have the same profile, so you can mix them in squads without fear of losing advantadge or having to deal with clunky multiple profiles when they're pretty much the same in the fluff.They did that with Grey Knights. No one likes it, especially since they took our hammers away so infantry can barely hurt bigger demons or vehicles now.
>>98106597The video games also aren't volkite, they're neo-volkite.
>>98106172Iirc the paint dropper bottles on amazon often come with a small funnel. Makes the decanting process way easier. I used to premix some water or medium into the citadel paint pots to make them flow easier into the dropper bottles.
I finished painting Kharn, and I’m very proud of how he came out. I chose to have him slay a Salamander as they are the most Reddit legion.
>>98107466I think I want to do Sigismund next, but he’s definitely given me a push for a WE army.
>>98107466>>98107472God damn I wish I could do skin tone that well....he looks good, glad you didnt do what most seem to do with WEs, which is COVER them in gore and blood splatters. So many people just go WAY overboard with it usually...
>>98107354The volkite in Boltgun is a Volkite Caliver.
>>98107466>I chose to have him slay a Salamander as they are the most Reddit legion.That kind of thinking makes you a redditor
>>98107129No, it's strictly a 40k vehicle.
>>98107696I wasnt talking "rules" wise, I was talking "lore" wise. I dont give a fuck about the rules as I dont play the game.
>>98107703NTA but have you liked... *looked* at a stormhammer? It's *the* solar aux super heavy. Y'know the faction that ONLY exists in heresy... did you mean the stormBLADE per chance? That's also in heresy.>>98107696Where'd ya get that one from?
>>98106748I paint plasma coils in brass
>>98106258Love the anvilus backpacks really adds even more bulk to the already intimidating big shields.Also fun fact the back of EC shields always have a mirror so they can check themselves out whenever and mire.
>>98107036Not true. In Unremembered Empire there were varying quantities of Space Wolves, Imperial Fists, Salamanders, Raven Guard, White Scars, and Iron Hands on Macragge, in addition to the Dark Angels, Blood Angels, and Ultramarines. It would make the most sense to have one of the big 3 for characters, representing the command structure, but even that isn't necessary. Wolves and Scars are pretty famous for poor response to central command, and similar can be said of how the Salamanders behaved before they were lead by Vulkan.
>>98107129They're the designated Solar Auxilia superheavy, it's less fitting in 40k if anything. The current Lord of War rules in 3.0 can be from any army your allegiance permits, and Legion Baneblade variants used to exist in prior editions, but Fellblades are more accessible than ever today between recasting, proonting, and plastic, anyway.If you're now interested in Legiones Auxilia for Iron Warriors, try painting it as the Selucid Thorakites, which is more or less very similar still. Or your own Cohort.
>>98104020yeah that would be cool
Why are they only releasing fucking tanks.
>>98108021"LOL. LMAO." they say
Are Praetorian Breacher Squads any good? Being a WS4 Melee unit doesn't seem to be high prospects unless they have a use I'm missing
>>9810808918 points per is a pretty good rate for a w2 guy with a power weapon. But it's rough when you look at the Invactarus.
>>98108115>But it's rough when you look at the Invactarus.Yeah...
>noticed the Auxilia range is nearly ported to plastic in fullWhat's happening for them afterwards? More mothballed Forge World stuff? Imperial Army?
>>98108335Flying ships.
>>98108338Personally, I think a bigger flying transport than the Arvus Lighter would be nice.
>>98108340Eh flying transports in a primarily ranged army aren't a massive priority. We'd get more from a plastic Termite.However.I would go feral for a plastic Thunderbolt fighter.
>>98108335Squatted.
>>98107129It's a late crusade design meant to fight xenos that rely on numbers and toughness like orks that was being rolled out in numbers only during the heresy. So yes.
>>98108470The lack of plastic kits for HH flyers is criminal. All such cool models, would undoubtedly sell like hot cakes, but GW doesn't want to earn money it seems.
>>98107436I got the army painter ones, which did not. Theyre also tiny so that kinda sucks, but its enough to fill up the airbrush around 1.5x, maybe a bit more.
>>98108513A plastic storm eagle/fire raptor would be great. But so would plastic outriders, plastic recons and countless other things that GW have yet to do. At the current release pace I expect maybe some more consuls (mortifactor doesent have a model yet) and then some fuckass tanks.
>>98108988If GW was smart they'd release a build-your-own-consul kit, with one marine body and a ton of bits to create the character you want. Sadly, we can't have nice thing.
>>98107466they really did Kharn dirty in the new massacre book, dude limps out and gets dropped by the first RG he comes across. Bit of a retcon from him getting so deep in the fighting he met up with Tal.
>>98108335Scouring
>>98109002yeah, it was bizzare and felt like they wanted to repeat his siege "I'm a broken brained mewling faggot but I'm gonna go apeshit I promise" thing. Really stupid, but so is rehashing Istvaan V.
>>98106329Thank you for your insight Perturabo
>>98108999On the one hand: Itd be a sick kit and a callback to some of their best ever kits (the chaos terminator lord/space marine captain ones for 40k, the empire/orc/high elf general ones for fantasy)On the other hand: It would have a worse return margin than what they currently have, probably have a worse "fidelity" than the monopose characters (for obvious reasons) and cannibalize sales to a degree. Its better for GW if you have to buy three different boxes to convert the dude you want, than if you can just convert with one box. Why would they give you a box that lets you give your guy a thunder hammer when they can make you buy the melee upgrade kit for it instead? (this was also the case back in the day with resin, except more expensive). This is less "GW is dumb" and more "GW figured out that the hobbyist friendly thing makes less money than what theyre currently doing". The best we can hope for is some more "generic" characters in plastic, like the old legion praetors with the paragon blades, that happen to be compatible with the general kits (since afaik the generic characters from the starter boxes arent?)
>>98109113Also, they probably can't in HH because of all the legion specific extras and people complaining that one option or another wasn't included because it got added after the fact, like desentigrators.
>>98108988It gets me every time with how many people try to convert Dominion Zephon into any jump character because they still haven't really covered all the bases for plastic characters yet.
>>98109113>Its better for GW if you have to buy three different boxes to convert the dude you wantThat might be so, but that clearly isn't the business strategy that GW has been going for. Proof: the removal of all units and options that required multiple kits to build, especially in 40k and AoS. The HH weapon kits have been a very rare and recent exception, and even those seem to be slowly going away. The new catas are split into two different kits, rather than one kit with one or more weapon upgrade sets it is compatible with. Same for the consuls and characters that have gotten resin models, only options that model comes with are still legal.
>>98109225>The new catas are split into two different kitsThats literally making you buy the kit twice depending on the loadout you want. Since afaik one has volkites + hammers and the other has bolters + fists. Want volkites and fists? Buy a 2nd box.
>>98109154They could do a kit with the "generic" options, but yea, no way you can have one kit for all the legions unless you want to have something with enough plastic to build 20 odd guys and end up costing 100 bucks. A "legion command upgrade sprue" could maybe work, similar to the weapon upgrades theyve done previously. Include the legion unique weapons (maybe even a couple of them for different poses), one or two custom helmets, fancy chestplace/shoulder pads. Its the sort of stuff they like doing for 40k. But their release schedule for HH is already glacial, if we spend a month on "space wolf commander upgrades" I fear someone will literally get lynched in public.
>>98108999They could do a lot of variations on this, like with the BA/SoH weapons: legion weapon upgrade kits, artificer armor packs (various armor marks or bundles), legion-specific artificer armor, etc. Things to let you mix-and-match consuls and praetors for each legion, or even things like sergeants or veterans. You could allow for some really cool customization across an army.
>>98109503The issue with making "armor packs" (currently) is that theres not really a "standard" torso pattern like there was back in the day. All the tactical bodies are mark specific (afaik) and also all weird shapes, so it would only work for one specific combination of back + legs. Maybe as a command squad upgrade? Not sure how those are built.
>>98109522I'm thinking you'd make full bodies for armor packs, like the tactical bodies now (but more ornate). You'd probably want to make them compatible with the weapons, at least if you wanted to be able to use them as sergeants, but I think the torso dimensions are uniform (the weapon options are almost all interchangeable across tactical torsos, with the exception of a couple of the heavy weapons, I think). I'm not sure about two-handed melee weapons since I've never messed with them. The one-handed weapons like pistols and most melee are all cross-compatible of course.If you had to split it up you could do tactical/officer packs where the tactical ones are artificer in the same poses and the officer ones are more freeform.Though I'm simply fantasizing, while I wait on MK2/MK3 legion upgrades. Any day now. :-(
>>98109555>I'm thinking you'd make full bodies for armor packs, like the tactical bodies now (but more ornate).Ah, so less "front plate for an existing body" and more "a full body"? I could see it. Although that would likely limit how many new front-plates you get.
I just want them to make new Mk IV and never ever touch Tartaros
>>98109611That would be nice. New MKIV, then plastic outriders and destroyers in that style. Maybe plastic javelins and flyers too...In reality its going to be cumboat gayass and some other BL literal whos. Maybe they bring back garro and the other queers errant.
>>98109628>BL literal whosI don’t want this to be the case, but I know you’re likely right. I’d even be happy with a Mk V refresh, they have the updated design already if the Mk V apothecary is anything to go by.
>>98109571Yep, exactly. I think that would be a good addition. Especially if you did two levels (i.e. more generic vs more praetor-y), now that I think about it, since more limited options for sergeants wouldn't be such a big deal. Or additional bits to make line officers. Even a handful of new legion bodies would let you run several unique consuls.
Stupid question but bear with me. Models cant end their turn within 1" of another model. Is 1" "within" 1"? Basically, can you end your move exactly 1" away from the enemy?
>>98109753Yes, you can be exactly 1" away.
>>98109796Okay, good to know. Sick armistos.
Do tarantula sentry guns snapshot at flyers with their special reaction?
>>98109002>>98107466Wait, wasn't Kharn dead during Istvaan V? I thought he wasn't resurrected until the Shadow Crusade started
>>98102028What's a Spartan Command Tank and where can i find rules for it
>>98109902>What's a Spartan Command TankA bad unit>where rulesTallarn journal (profile has leaked).Its a spartan without the guns that lets you take a bunch of tanks and lets you use its mental stats for stuff.
>>98109822I'm not sure you're meant to be able to use the sentry guns reaction against a flyer's movement. The combat assignment each specifically state at which point the Intercept and Combat Air Patrol may be declared by the reactive player. And why would tarantula rules say they're allowed to use the Intercept reaction when they can just use their own special reaction to shoot at stuff coming in from reserves, and not have to deal with firing snap-shots?But the Flyer sub-type rules say flyers can be targetted by reactions, and there's no rule that says all shooting at flyers is snap shots any more Probably because you can only shoot at flyers with Intercept, Combat Air Patrol, or Return Fire now. They're gone by the time the enemy's shooting phase startsTLDR: RAW tarantula's can shoot at flyers without snap-shots using their special reaction.
>>98110005They dont use the intercept reaction, they use their own special reaction whenever anything finishes moving within 48" of them. >And why would tarantula rules say they're allowed to use the Intercept reaction when they can just use their own special reaction to shoot at stuff coming in from reservesVs regular deep strike I guess? Its not a conventional "move" (cant reposition against it), so their automated fire probably wouldnt work either.
>>98110026No no, Automated Fire Protocols rule says tarantulas can shoot with Overwatch, Intercept, and their own special reaction
>>98110041Huh.
>>98109812If only solitary heavy weapons were worth penuts now
>>98109033eh the Istvann coverage was very slim in just the few chapters at the end of Fulgrim, though this book in no way covers what actually needed looking at in fact it just makes even less sense, Corax for instance will have to teleport from the fortress to the rear lines to face Lorgar. They also severely underestimate how much of the loyal fleet is supposed to survive and break out which the book makes out to be impossible beause they have zero ammo left, alpha legion saboteurs killing all the ship crew and have been forced to stand down as traitor ships bring them into broadside. >>98109842the first reference to him at Istvann V originally was Betrayal where he and Tal discuss fighting together during the battle. The new book says he was basically dead on his feet and passed out like Bilbo fucking Baggins.
Where are my legions imperialis players at? What do you boys think of this? Got everything printed, mostly painted. Played a couple of 2k games and love the system. Ready to move up to 3k:World Eaters 3k 2999 / 3000ptsTraitorFormations 3Formation 1World Eaters, Legion Demi-companyFormation Strength: 52Break Point: 26HQ: Legion Command Squad (1)Support: Legion Assault Detachment (8)4 Additional Assault MarinesCore: Legion Tactical Detachment (6)2 Additional Assault MarinesCore: Legion Tactical Detachment (8)4 Additional Assault MarinesCore: Legion Tactical Detachment (8)4 Additional Assault MarinesTransport: Legion Land Raider Detachment (6)Support: Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Detachment (4)Support: Legion Assault Detachment (8)4 Additional Assault MarinesAir Support: Legion Thunderhawk Gunship (3)Formation 2World Eaters, Legion Heavy Assault Spearhead, 1420ptsFormation Strength: 34Break Point: 17Support: Legion Terminator Detachment (4)Support: Legion Terminator Detachment (6)Support: Legion Terminator Detachment (4)Support: Legion Terminator Detachment (4)Battle Tank: Legion Predator Squadron (8)Battle Tank: Legion Predator Squadron (8)Dedicated: Legion Spartan Detachment (8)Dedicated: Legion Land Raider Detachment (2)Formation 3Alpha Legion, Legion Garrison Force, 536ptsFormation Strength: 15Break Point: 8HQ: Legion Command Squad (1)Support: Legion Missile Launcher Support Detachment (4)Core: Legion Tactical Detachment (4)Bastion: Legion Tarantula Battery (4)Main: Hyperios air-defense missile launcherHeavy Armour: Legion Kratos Squadron (6)
