Duardin Edition>Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>98089865>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread questions:Are you excited for Khazalid Holds? What would you want to see from that army?
>TQ:FUCK THE NUGGETS. FIRST FOR THE FAT FUCKS
>>98107316Don't care for manlets. Give me this
>>98107316>What would you want to see from that army?Old-school dwarves who know how clothes work.
>>98107316>I'm hoping we finally get some dwarf women models
>>98107498There are a few among the Fyreslayers.
>>98107504They're pretty great. There aren't many female dwarf models on the market, and the ones that do exist tend to be not great, like the artist is never sure how to handle the proportions.The girl Fyreslayers are exactly what I want from female dwarf minis; buff as hell and wide. A whole new dwarf range with a bunch of women in that style would be excellent to me.
>>98107316>TQAn acknowledgment on rootkings. Just a small blurb. I don’t think they got a mention in the recent sylvaneth battletome
>>98107580Real as fuck, the Salvagers were a dissapointment in this regard, just give me an enginner dwarf girl GW!1!
>>98107316if drolf is indicative of the armies direction, then no, not at all.he is possibly one of the most boring, generic dwarfs i have ever seen. that is not what i signed up to play in age of sigmar. that kind of tradslop may fly in borehammer fantasy but its not what i want out of age of sigmar
>>98107619You'll get one and then watch dozens of schizo posts every thread screeching about how her face looks stupid or GW made one with dreadlocks as an alternate head.
>>98107580the new KO units are also like 50/50 men and women
>>98107629You can swap heads and you wouldn’t be able to tell that sexes on those models though.
>>98107626Like i would give a shit about gorgs schizoposting, especially when i know its jelousy
>>98107316>TQNo. If I wanted a generic dwarf faction I'll just play warhammer fantasy. Drolf looks like he was copied out of warhammer fantasy dwarfs anyway. AoS has more interesting dwarves in the kharadron. Should've left dorfs in Cities of Sigmar and let them be a subfaction you could pick. But GW are retard niggers.
Hello, miniature poster. I am getting into aos, and I want your darkest and most evil wizard sculpts.
>>98107701>Drolf looks like he was copied out of warhammer fantasy dwarfsFantasy fucking wishes their dwarfs looked that good
>>98107716Dwarves aren’t even consistent with their asthetic in fantasy.
It would be cool to get some ranger dwarfs. A character to lead them as well. I think it doesn’t step too much on TOW’s toes to expand upon dwarf rangers in AoS.
so its okay when we get female dwarves but not when we get female humans?
>>98107740you are the only one here saying that
>>98107740I am happy with females humans as long as they're attractive
>>98107740No. We need more men. Men only. Twinks even.
So is the Last World thing real?
I could have sworn the contorted epitome were named demons, or rather a unique choice.
>>98107785Sort of.It's literally a lore change like the 40k imperium being split.Instead of being on different themed realms, they're continents on one planet.That's literally it
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>>98107721>Dwarves aren’t even consistent with their asthetic in fantasy.Its an issue of very slow releases, most factions had the same problem, where some of your range is from 20 years ago, another is from 10, and third one is from last year, Skaven suffered from that a lot for example.>Instead of being on different themed realms, they're continents on one planet.Lamest change one could come up with possible
>>98107892>Lamest change one could come up with possibleDepends on its executions, honestly. A reverse Pangaea event would be interesting
>>98107878This Lore change just shows what kind of people are in charge of the game, and its the same kind of people who keep making the grimmud "just like 40k" garbage bullshit, we need the blood bowl and warcry guys back so bad
>>98107871>realmgate wars was for nothing>Hysh is no longer the source of light for the other realms>no more difficulty traveling between realms, it's all a boat ride or KO ship ride away.>Hammerhall is no longer an important place for the cities, it's just another town>edges of realms aren't dangerous hellscapes anymore, it's just the beachthis change would suck ass, downgrade in every way.
>>98107926Im still convinced that rumor, while probably originating from something real, is some 40k fanboy leaker failing to udnerstand what its actually about, theres been a couple examples of them fucking up what models they are actually leaking, even if the description fits
>>98107926iirc Hammerhall is the capital of the Sigmar-worshipping human empire.And let's be honest, it never made sense that Hammerhall was THE twin-tailed city. Every major realmgate should have a major city on both sides. Even minor ones should have decent settlements on both sides, that would be the standard unless there's some specific reason it wouldn't work for a specific gate.
I’m still waiting for ulgu to be throughly explored before I read into hysh.
>Wanna try AoS once Ogre refresh comes out>Everyone plays 40k at my GW>Store owner says he's seen people play AoS at his store but they're rare
>>98107965Thats just what happens when you dont play 40k, feelsbad, but whachugonna do
>>98107965all it takes is someone to start a grow league or a spearhead league, or suggest it to the owner. people have money to spend, most 40k players can be convinced to at least give a spearhead a try, the game has enough good looking models that even diehard 40k players can be convinced to give a single spearhead a shot just to paint up the kits. its been my experience, 25 years in the hobby, that a lot of times with games other than 40k, there are a lot of people who are interested but they're all waiting for somebody else to pull the trigger and get a scene going, and it just takes a little push to get the ball rolling with a few excited hobbyists.
>>98107965>>98108012 is correct. I got my LGS' AoS scene to go from non-existent to small, but healthy. Maybe only 6 of us in total that are active, but the store wants to do AoS events for the first time in years.
>>98107316>TQNah, I'm more excited for the Kurnothi releasing at the end of the year
>>98108024>>98108012That's how we ended up with a thriving Warcry scene. One passionate guy who roped in heaps of others
>>98107620I hate that the Fyreslayers are being phased out. They were a creative take on dwarves
it has been brought to my attention that the only faction with human archers in it are the blissbarbs, aside from weird warcry stuff.
>>98107652VGHHH...MY QVEEN...
>>98108051we dont know the extent of it. there's at least 1 fyreslayers style rumor engine that hasnt been released yet, so its possible fyreslayers are still largely present or even influence the aesthetic of the non slayer dwarfs (like how ogres and giants dress up like steelhelms in cities, you get ironbreakers or longbeards but with fyreslayer drip) so im not going to pass judgment until i see the result.but more than anything i really want a squad of 3 juvenile droth riding cavalry
>>98108172I think it's safe to say they're not all going, one of the new CoS armies of renown has both Auric Hearthguard and Vulkyn Flameseekers in it
>>98107588They didn't even give sharty a shoutout in the chorf tome, I doubt root kings will get acknowledged either>>98107926>no more difficulty traveling between realms, it's all a boat ride or KO ship ride awayI think realmgates are mentioned to be still around
>>98108299even if vulkite berserkers do get deleted and you already have a bunch, nothing saying you cant just run them with the flameseekers warscroll or the HGB warscroll
>>98108051>>98108172>>98108299As far as we know fyreslayers are losing-vulkites-runemaster-grimwrath berserker-doomseekerIn return they'll be gaining some new models alongside normal khazalid, including at least 1 new droth.
>>98107652It's only now I realise she's looks like Les Dawson during his Cissie and Ada sketches. She's even got his gurn going on.
>>98108324Or even whatever the new "basic dwarf" warscroll ends up being.
>>98108347>grimwrath berserkerwhat the fuck. that is literally their most iconic unit. its THE quintessential fyreslayer
>>98108357i counter your castle giant with my siege giant
>>98108416I found it odd too. The doomseeker is sort of redundant and the runemaster looks like shit so those I get, but the grimwrath seems pretty fun. Worst thing about him is his silly name.
>>98108452> and the runemaster looks like shitim gonna hard disagree there
>>98108452Honestly I think they're just paring down the Fyreslayers bloated hero roster a bit. The thing the three heroes and vulkites have in common is that they're all some of the oldest models (that don't share a sprue with the Droth kit) in the rangeIf Fyreslayers get any new generic foot hero models, a new berserker or priest is pretty much a given. And if they don't they can just promote some of their newer but kinda redundant hero models to more important roles.
>>98108493the runemaster was newer, late 2nd or early 3rd, i dont remember.you're thinking of the runesmiter or possibly the battlesmith, which were both launch 1e models
>>98108501>the runemaster was newer, late 2nd or early 3rd, i dont remember.No it wasn't, it was part of the original release. You're thinking of the Flamekeeper, which was released in 3E. Honestly I think they're just going to replace the Runemaster/Grimwrath with the FlameKeeper and Grimhold Exile. Meanwhile the Silver Tower guy just always sucked and never had a real place in the army.
I just dont like the dude who kept the beard but ditched the mustache. Theres something weird about that kind of choice in general, let alone on a dwarf. Id be fine with khadrons being literal mustache twirlers that occasionally lacked a beard, but a beard with no mustache? Thats a dude who drinks his milk microwaved.
>>98107619Spreading her shitter with both thumbs and snorting it like you're a Grey Seer trying to get the last bit of warpstone out of a mini donut.
>>98108357lmao
>>98108538Yeah that's the runemaster you're thinking of. It's why I don't like him too. His little brazier staff is pretty alright though.
>>98108051AoS as a whole is being phased out. Tick tock paypiggieI came here to laugh at you. Haha. Bye bye :^)
you think the smoke is big enough to let me sew a demons face on it? Maybe even let a little tongue action in on it with some leftover fiend bits?
>>98108635When was the last time your dead game got a new release fakegrogie? :^)
>>98108635Don't worry anon, It's only been 8 months since the last release preview for your very-alive game, any day now I'm sure.
>>98108640I think that'd be difficult, it looks pretty tiny. Mhm, though I think there's probably certain bits from armour you could use. My mind goes to the DoK blood hags who have little faces sculpted on their kneecaps, those might be the right size. I think darkoath also has some stuff like that.>>98108641>>98108690His game is total war, not the old world. You're barking up the wrong tree. They got a furry dlc just last week even.
>>98107926Wait the Hysh point is interesting.Where is a new sun going to come from?
What's the Khazalid Holds in the end? A weird amalgamation of Fyreslayers+Dispossessed?
>>98107356This. Ogres need a good rework. Something to match the latest books.Legend armies have more synergy and tricks than ogres.Also, I want them to properly unite gutbusters and BCR. The latter can get an army of renown as a bonus
>>98108918My money I'd on dwarf soup as a renown army
>>98108357>HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT, SKRAGROT ?>I PISSED ON THE MAD MOOD, YOU GIT!
So with the new model reveal how does /aosg/ feel about the current Slaanesh range as a whole? What do you think of the overall aesthetic, what are your favourite and least favourite models etc?Personally looking over things they've actually got a really solid range. Slaanesh isn't very popular so you'd think that's because they're stuck with a kind of shitty range like tzeentch but no, they're pretty varied, and except for like 4 kits (daemonettes, seekers, the chariot, hellstriders) they're all very modern sculpts.I think the sort of weird middle eastern aesthetic sells the hedonism pretty well. That being said I think unfortunately slaanesh has never really managed to avoid the "evil sex army" connotation, which combined with being a bitch to paint (and play) is probably more the reason why they're not super popular.But yeah the range itself is actually really good. The only things they could use are imo a slaangor hero, a mounted hero to go along with their mortal cav, and maybe a 10 man melee mortal unit a la rotswords or blood warriors. All in all, great range.
>>98108964I think is a superb range. Yeah could use better rules, yeah could use some more units like blissbarb melee or some heavy infantry half demonette dancers ala wrathmongers of khorne but overall I think is fantastic and way better than 40k for example. Slaanesh was never very popular (don't know why) but i think is an army for "connaisseurs" you like what they sell or you hate it.
speaking of slaanesh, anybody here who can confirm if minicompare is accurate in this instance? The two slaangors to the left are from the actual kit, the one on the right is from the underworlds warband. Is he really like a full head taller? Seems much closer to what I pictured slaangor were heightwise, since the regular guys are basically the same height as other gors (despite coming in groups of 3 and being expensive as fuck).
>>98108918Basically what the Lumineth are to the high elves for the old WHF dwarfsDispossessed + Fyreslayers>Thorgrim demigod>Golem>New Magmadroth>Gotrekthat sort of thing
>>98108918Gotrek is the central figure apparently
>>98108918Essentially yeah. NuDispossessed centered around the ancestor gods, with fyreslayers becoming essentially the grimnir zealot part of the army. The other anon who compared to lumineth has the right of it.
>>98108950It'll be like CoS with unique warscrolls for like three units
>>98109216>>98109280>>98109288sounds kinda bad, specially for Fyreslayers forced to share book with boring vanilla dorfs.
>>98109380It doesn't sound super exciting to me either but honestly this is probably the best fyreslayers could realistically get let's be real
>>98108964I wish blissbarbs and seekers weren’t a pain to assemble
Quick 'n Dirty Thanquol. He turned out much nicer than I thought, still gotta clean up and highlight a few spots. Glad to be chilling a bit more after the shit show of the weekend and Friday.
>>98108964I was thinking about this today and I almost want to get a character to paint and just to dip my toes in.It's pretty good. I'm mostly talking about mortals here since the daemons were designed decades ago. the humans have a coherrent and distinct design that isn't tacky or dated.It kind of sucks that most of the mortals are dual build kits but the designers did an honest job differentiating them. the lord of hubris is awesome and so is Sigvald. Glutos isn't my cup of tea personally but I'm happy they explored the gluttony aspect of Slaanesh. He rides into battle on a palaquin with 2 mutated Quasimodo's, that's p cool.I like that slaangors are units of 3 and powered up to compensate instead of being a 10 unit purple reskin of regular gors like the pestigors and tzaangors. Hopefully Khorngors follow their example and we get some big jacked gors with axes and big horns.we could really use new daemons and some mutated mortals, or maybe some chaff-y mortals? How about some mortals who were reduced to maddened junkies after indulging too much and being unable to handle it? Kind of like gorgers in ogres. But their range is pretty good aside from the outdated daemons.
>spearhead is big success>the preferred smaller scale game to onboard new players>warcry becomes redundant>warcry bands getting thrown into spearhead cause warcry is kill soon>spearheads have seen a noticeable drop in value and qualityis it just me?
>>98109626>spearheads have seen a noticeable drop in value and qualityThey’ve kinda been better recently imo.
>>98108964The range is honestly really well done. Varied yet cohesive. If I hsd to pick a best model I'd go for the fiendbloods or the blissbarb cav. Fiends are cool too. Worst probably the hellstriders, just kind of outdated now. But yeah being the sex army is always going to put a cap on popularity for slaanesh.>>98109626>noticeable drop in in value and qualityBwah, there's definitely been some massive downgrades (old vs new ogres, old vs new kharadron, ...) but in terms of discount I think it's stayed pretty consistent overall. New idoneth and new fec were great from that angle for example.But yes the need to recycle warcry warbands has created some real stinkers. Nurgle probably being the worst example.
>>98109626>warcry bands getting thrown into spearheadWhen?
>>98109673Oh you meant the old warbandsI think GW are just clearing stock with those ngl
>>98109673>darkoath>daughters of khaine>ossiarch bonereapers>nurgle>flesh eater courts>khorne>seraphon>cities of sigmar (sand and bone one)It happens all the time lately. And that's not even counting underworlds, otherwise you can add ogres, gloomspite and now slaanesh to the list (seraphon had both)It's a definite trend.
I am planning to get a unit of chaos warriors to use as bodies for a base, how pose-able are the arms? i want to pose them being slashed by a sword
>>98109725As posable as you're willing to tolerate making joints/limbs out of green stuff and slicing the mini to pieces to get it to work.
>>98109725If you can hold out for a bit longer, there are murmurs that they might reveal a new chaos warriors kit for TOW soon, and they might or might not be poseable.
>>98109894I thought the leaks were new chaos warriors for the new launch box for AOS
>>98109901Boole said BoC, then he may have been mistaken and it's maybe Slaanesh, but said if you like Chaos Warriors you'll be excited for what is to come for TLW (generally)
>>98109901Against all possible odds both are credible leaks lmao
>>98109913So realistically we have no fuckin' clue
>>98109901I haven't heard anything about that. I do know that the TOW chaos warriors are simply gone (not even "no longer available"; just gone) from the NA version of the webstore, which seems pretty significant.
>>98109921Gavespawn
>>98109913>those 12 or so hours where we went from "beastmen might be coming back :D" to "oh shit they're doing a second end times" was pretty wild
>>98109921probably just some slaaneshi looking BoC
>>98109901Both TOW and AoS are getting updated chaos warriors within one year of each other, this is not a joke, this is the result of the two games divorcing and having to coordinate how to represent their respective chaos warriors in slightly different ways.TOW is getting the heavy metal vikings, AoS is getting the fantasy chaos marines.
>>98109959That's dumb, chaos literally just got a whole god damn refresh
I still don’t like the idea of boc returning as a whole ass faction. It should be chucked into s2d. It’s retarded otherwise.
>>98110020s2d doesn't need more shit, they already have a massive fuckoff range.
>>98110030It could be bigger.
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>>98110020They should just add khornegors and then make an AoR to use all marked gors together in addition to some random bullshit like the cat and the ogroids
>>98110170Yeah, they could call it beasts of chaos :^)
>>98110020There is a chance of BoC coming back? For real?
>>98110020beasts of chaos make sense as a separate range only if they end developing a very distinct visual identity the previous one of barbarians wasn't distinct enougha new one focusing on mutations and morghur could be
>>98110210Even back when they got removed, they intentionally wrote a plot hook where Ghorraghan Khai escaped with a handful of Morghur's sludge essence to start over again.
>>98110175Beasts being their own army is WOKE nuhammer nonsense.AoS proudly carries the torch of trve oldhammer tradition by making beastmen a subgroup of normal chaos factions>>98110210Meh it's kind of unclear, boole first said yeah they're coming back, even being the fucking 5th edition starter guys, then backtracked and switched to slaanesh for that, and then pivoted again to slaves to darkness, though what exactly the latter means is also still vague. All of this happened like right before he dropped the TLW bomb so he never got back to what the fuck he was talking about with beastmen.I wouldn't put too much hope on it though
>>98109959How many other billion dollar companies cannibalize themselves like this.Do vidya gaem companies do this shit to themselves?
>>98108964I just feel like they just need a warcry-esque unit, and something to act as the in between their elite infantry and their archers(like the Bloodwarriors are for the Skullreapers/Wrathmongers and rhe Bloodreavers) and it's perfect.If they wanna add more support heroes and more Slaangors, fine by me. Hell, a Slaangor Shaman would be neat.But so far? Like it for if I wanna go full mortal(which I always do)
hypothetically, is there a feasible way to smash these two bits of terrain to make them work? Like if I wanted a giant flying metal furnace for a chamon/aqshy themed army?
>>98110320Yeah they're very close to being a complete range imo. Like you mentioned, a chaos warrior equivalent between blissbards and myrmidesh, and maybe a slaangor hero. I'd personally also like to see essentially melee blissbarbs like in the underworlds unit but that'd be just a nice extra. As others have mentioned a mounted mortal hero would also be cool. Can just plop a lord on a seeker, or maybe bring back the boobsnake if they want to be a bit less lazy.I'm wondering how slaaneshi chaos warrior equivalents would look though, since you'd have to make them distinct enough from myrmidesh and symbaresh too. Maybe something like the main UW guy, with more exposed skin and some furs?
>>98110345use the shrine luminor and paint the water as lava
>>98110345I feel like you'd be better off just making your own floating island out of foam or whatever and then putting the furnace on top.Though I think maybe something like the Anvil of Doom might be better suited for your idea.
So what can we expect models wise from the remaining factions for 4e?>Fyreslayers>Ogors>Sons>Seraphon>DoK
>>98110914>OgresThere has been a leak already, tldr - updated minor Beastclaw mounts, Leadbelchers replaced with hunters armed with crossbows, a named lady tyrant, total Beastclaw victory.Ironguts, Gluttons, Tyrant, Butcher >FSAs per TGAA ram and an Avatar of Grimnir automata.more than 9 kits (Counting multiparts)more Dispossessed kits than Fyreslayer kits>Sons Sraphon DoKMaybe Malerion and shadow elves for DoK? the rest i wouldnt expect anything beyond a pity hero
>>98108964The range is good but is falling into the hero trap where they just have so many single minor heroes. I actually like the lord of hysteria but his goofy ass is a major downgrade from the essentially perfect lord of hubris model. Daemonttes need a refresh, so do the chariots and hellstriders (but realistically both of the latter are going to TOW). Everything modern is excellent. A cavalry hero and melee chaff unit would be welcome. Other than that, maybe a war machine? I think despite not having a true generic monster you are well served for monsters between Glutos, Dexcessa/Synessa and the Keeper.>>98110395The mymidesh are the chaos warrior equivalent imo.
>>98110914>fyreslayersCouple of new units for FS themselves, alongside a major release wave for dispossesed 2.0>ogresMajor refresh of basically every kit but the 2011 ones>sonsnew mancrushers + matriarch>seraphon New coatl rider pity hero (+ maybe some end of edition stuff but that's more vague)>DoKAnon?
>>98110278>Beasts being their own army is WOKE nuhammer nonsense.>AoS proudly carries the torch of trve oldhammer tradition by making beastmen a subgroup of normal chaos factionsHoly TRVKE
>>98109626Ironically grognards I know prefer warcry more for the good amount of depth.Spearhead isn't as liked because it's just very limited.
>>98109894>new chaos warriors kit for TOWI don't buy it.It made sense to refresh marauder kits because those looked like ass, but opd chaos warriors are fine
>>98110050Imagine S2D gets a chariot expansion, similar to what gitz got, with the worst value for money box
>>98111277Chariots don't really work in AoS rules.
>>98111306SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP FUCK YOU, YOU'RE WRONG THEY WORK AND I HATE YOU SHUT UP
>>98111308They could work, but they keep putting them in the WHFB paradigm of basically hitting as hard as 2 regular dudes + doing some fuckass mortal wounds + having some kind of dumb jump movement ability that is either useless or obnoxious.
>>98111321That's fair, but also I feel like we gotta get past every ability being a d3 mortal wounds thing. Hopefully next edition they give us some spice.
>>98110914DoKI am seeing a more elite, polearm equipped witch elf unit, with more armour and unfortunately showing less skin.Something with blood in their name.What do you reckon about my prediction?
>>98110914Sons of Behemat will get a pity foot hero
>>98111264You think they choose kits to update based on any rationale? Buddy, they still haven't made a kit for Forsaken. Sense it out the damned window.
>standard bearer brought the battle standard to seatsThe most awkward thing about it? It's just a pick-up battle between Untamed Beasts and Iron Golems, and this guy is actually a Spire Tyrant supporter.
>>98111343If only I could declare: deal D3 damage to the rule-writers, but only once per game (army-wide effect.)
>>98111412That's practically the same as being a full kit wanker
>>98111264You can't buy the standard Chaos Warrior Kit in the US anymore, and in the UK the metal Halberd Upgrade is no longer purchasable, so I would expect some new TOW Kits soonish, like July or August
What a shame and weird decision, Chaos Warriors kit is fairly modern and a rather nice looking kit. Is ToW getting it, or is it just going to be dumpstered while ToW use the older more awkward one while we got some worse replacement?
>>98111473I do not believe they will refresh chaos warriors I'm gonna be real with you.
>>98108964Spending hundreds of hours and dollars painting tiny toy men to play with is embarrassing enough for most people. Dedicating all that to the faction filled with miniature boobs who worship the degenerate sex god is a step too far for the average geek.
>>98111473Neither. Tow will probably get some Viking larpers in tin cans and Aos will probably get some really edgy stuff that will literally cause cuts that can only be compared to obsidian blades upon touching their helmets.
>>98111445>>98111473What are we talking about here? I can order the warrior kit US right now. You mean the OLD WORLD warriors kit?
>>98111259They said the same thing about 40k at my LGS, if you're not playing killteam/warcry you can just play a small point game, fixed rosters kinda suck, specially if GW does a "whoops all tzaangors" to you. Like >>98109702>literally the warcry + nurglings and one character
>>98111495But enough about Daughters of Khaine
>>98111495The AoS range is rather nice, and GW's prudishness kept it tasteful desu. If you look at the Seeker sculpts and just see a coomer model it's a case of black and white thinking.Real talk, which AoS army *isn't* embarrassing, if that's the road you're going down?
>>98109941>So interesting we almost thought someone her age had suddenly picked up AI art generationWhat does that even mean? How can you tell someone's age by them asking a clanker to draw miniatures?
>>98111507>OLD WORLD warriors kit?Yes, that's the rumour
>mordheim>never had a Slaanesh band (no the forsaken don’t count) >warcry>likely going to end without ever having a Slaanesh bespoke warband Oh well. The unmade were cool at least despite not being visually representative of that, I’ve seen two people theme an entire army around them which, while cool, is weird.
>98111550OK, why do I give a fuck about that? As long as my StD is untouched I don't care.
>>98111536Khadrons.
>>98111556If anyone caught me engaging with steampunk in 2026 I'd do a fucking backflip off the nearest cliff.
>>98111552>Oh well. The unmade were cool at least despite not being visually representative of that, I’ve seen two people theme an entire army around them which, while cool, is weird.I'd call them Slaanesh even though I think they're supposed to be more Shyishy themed. In the same way I'd call the Iron golems more Khorne themed. (Mind you I've got both sitting in front of me right now, thanks random guy who gave them to me for free)
>>98111549Messy art, seemingly flawed. I'm guessing heavy mutations and such
>>98111412*BANG BANG*>CAM ON TYRANTS*BANG BANG*>CHOP SOME FACKING 'EADS*BANG BANG*
>>98111412>Carngrad AdventuresAfaik they still haven't published the map that was supposed to be in the book.
>>98111720it will come later it was the same with TOWRPG, where the core books were meant to come with a city map, but that didn't come out until the starter set PDF came out
>>98111720What if the real map was the struggle you made to find it?
>>98111741If that's the case then it's very awkward that both the prerelease advertisement of the book's contents AND the book itself references a map that is supposed to be in the book but isn't.
>>98111032>The myrmidesh are the chaos warrior equivalent imo.Mhyea I can sort of see the argument but >chaos warriors 10 man unit>blood warriors10 man unit>rot swords 10 man unitMeanwhile myrmidesh come in fives like chosen, blight kings, wrathmongers/skullreapers. Points and power wise they're somewhere between the two but I think they end up more chosen-like to me than warriors.
>>98111801I feel like lumping in blight kings with their current stats with Chosen, Wrath/skulls feels almost offensive to the other 3.
Anyone knows if theres any fan-made AoS project that would adapt newer stuff for 2nd edition rules, or maybe their own fan-made AoS ruleset based on previous editions, so that I dont have to touch 4th edition?
>>98111766Yeah, it's a problem with C7 strategy of releasing PDFs as a way to get people to Beta Read their books for them for free
>>98111825Visually and thematically they're on that levelRules wise? Yeah...
>>98111863I feel like GW couldn't make them too good for the re-release because they didn't want people to keep all the old ones. So instead they made them hot ass so the blight kings would go to old world players and then next edition we'll get a version of PBK with 2 damage attacks.
>>98109016I only have the Underworlds one.Base diameter: 3.9cmThe model without the base is like 4,9cm (until end of the upper horn), about 8cm (counting base until the upper edge of the sword) (the base is like 0.45 cm(not counting the rock/ debris ))So yeah, at least for the Underworlds one the image seems to be right.
>>98109016Pretty sure that its just a pose that makes him taller
>>98111875Make blightkings ass so they git rid of them and buy rotswords instead. Then next edition make rotswords ass and blightkings great so the reverse happens.That being said would old blightkings go to tow? Divided chaos isn't really a thing over there, not to mention timeline stuff which admittedly they've skirted before anyway.I feel like a lot of end times stuff is going to end up falling between the cracks as AoS is starting to phase it out whole tow also isn't really that interested.Semi related but do you guys think they're giving khorne another pass soon™? They redid nurgle to move away from the end times aesthetic to a new knightly + pagan folk horror thing, it's not out of the question that they'd also want to try their hand at Khorne. We know we've got Khul coming at some point...
>>98111925>would old blightkings go to towOh I didn't literally mean the unit, I just meant for nerds who want to kitbash nurgle guys. Basically send them to the secondary market instead.And I wouldn't mind some retouches for Khorne and the krew, I don't hate the blood warriors but I do think some of the launch stuff is deffo showing it's age. (Which is why if we do the last world shit, Khorne vs Stormcast would be sick as fuck, Crazy Vadnus vs Ascended Khul)
>>98111925Blightkings and Wrathmongers came out for the Undivided chaos origianally, not having separate factions, never prevented Fantasy chaos from having all the god specific units.Blightkings in this case just become Nurgle chosen, as they can be mounted on 40mm squares there
>>98111902Thanks anon>>98111921It's hard to tell, wish I had them myself to physically compare. The main body seems to be a bit larger, but mainly the legs are somewhat more straight. Also the claw is absolutely massive but that might be the angle
>>98111943Yeah I know but I was under the impression that in the current narrative of tow chaos divided is kind of surpressed and chaos undivided is the only sort really active
>>98111983Yeah that has always made zero sense coming off a gigantic civil war and a vampire and orc invasion and plague though. Much like Warcry originally they had this coherent idea for TOW initially that quickly just became "throw everything in it". I really thought we'd get army lists for each of the Imperial pretenders.
How do I start Skaven?Do I even want to?
>>98112095Find skaventide for like 10 dollars at your local anywhere for the clanrats and some heroes, determine if you want guns, ninjas, or giant frankenrats. Decide if you want a thanquol/verminlord/some more foot heroes. I don't know how monster mashy skaven is desu, I have like 2 verminlords and priest guy alongside thanquol but I have no clue if that's a thing so you'll probably need a shit ton of infantry, realize that Stormvermin are fuckin' garbo but look coolThen realize terrain is literally required. Do you still want skaven?
>>98112052I also found it odd how they've done nothing with the new empire situation since tow was seemingly created largely because of the total war hype and the empire is like THE secondary faction>>98112095Bro open ebay
>>98107316>explorerI have trouble understanding the Age of Sigmar setting. Is there a contiguous, persistent landscape for characters to explore?
>>98112095>Do I even want to?How many of these are you?GayAutisticFurryRedditor
>>98112095I got some Skaven I don't really want, I'd be down to sell em to you at a decent price depending on what ya want.
Really someone wants Malerion within DoK?
>>98112163Elspeth Magritta VI of Marienburg my beloved.>no empire/mercenary fusion army>no manann's blades>no burgomeister paymaster style character>no landship>'merc rules' are the most boring phoned-in rules imaginable published in TK journal and essentially just empire -1Don't worry about actually doing something creative with your setting revival, just roll out the 25 year models for as long as the initial wave of people buy them then forget about supporting the game entirely.If TOW had real support and was doing something interesting I might have bought into it. But right now it's just like playing bad 6th ed or bad 8th ed WHFB. I'm biased in that I don't give a fuck about Cathay I guess.
>>98112187Feels shit but it's probably gonna happen right? Dark elves in Cities are gone. Plenty of DoK units that stand to go back to TOW. I hope they just resculpt witch elves and keep them in DoK, but I could see it becoming a soup faction and just keeping the monstergirls once Malerion hits.
>>98112164>contiguous Not any less than say, earth>persistentSome definitely more than others, but sure
>>98112224I hate soup and that would be seriously one of the worst examples of soup, worse than Orruk Warclans, i hate that one too, but Morathi already gives an identity to the faction that adding Malerion will break in half.
>>98112297Yes, it would suck, but I have absolutely no confidence in how GW is managing any of their games right now. There are clearly some personal agendas at play in the calls being made.
>>98112187I mean it's not really about wanting, the writing is just on the wall. DoK have a grand total of like 12 kits (including spells, terrain, and a warcry recycle). They had 3 extra editions to flesh em out since launch and the only thing they really managed to come up with is Krethusa.Best they can hope for is an ironjawz->warclans type situation, but honestly they run the risk of becoming the gitmob in their own book if gw does Mally right.
>>98112164Theres like 8th
>>98111943Chosen are not on 40mm square bases. They're on 25mm bases.
>>98112421in like 40k maybe, what are you talking about
>>98112164There are 8 small planets, each with their own persistent land-masse. They all have scattered two-way portals connecting said land-masses to each other, with civilizations forming around said portals due to self-explanatory importance of being able to cross into another land-masse. Some of them are well-charted and explored, and typically have their stories centered in them: such as Aqshy (most normal of them, closest to Warhammer Fantasy world), Ghyran, and Shyish. Some are less explored and hostile to even their own denizens with Chamon and Ulgu being fine examples of this. Outside of rare exceptions like Chamon, most of the realms are generally no different from any other fantasy setting unless you start getting close to their borders where the magic that holds said planes together is less stable. If you remember the origin myth of Warhammer Fantasy, it's a very similar concept.
>>98112429Follow the reply chain before posting.
>>98112459I was a fool, I hadn't even considered square bases.
>>98112421we are both wrong actually, they are on 30s.25mm is base size of the basic infantry guysin TOW, 30 is for bigger guys like Chaos Warriors, idk why i thought chosen were on 40mm
How weak are the Flesh Eater Courts Spearheads compared to the Soulblight Gravelords Bloodcrave Hunt?Me and my friend are playing against eachother and I don’t want it to be a complete stomp
>>98112321Another case of blatant incompetence by GW.Gloomspite Gitz were perfect, hell even someone would say a little convoluted with night goblins, spiders, troggs and squigs fighting for work together, and what GW does? Throw a Sun chaser literal mongol goblins at the pot that have nothing in common with nothing besides be goblins. Feels bad man. They have to stop with the weird soups.
Are there any BL books worth reading for AoS? I'd like to learn more about the setting.
>>98110320>>98110395I bitched about it in the other thread, but its an absolute fucking crime that the HoS has exactly two fat fuck models (one of which is part of a larger centrepiece), no dancer unit (unless you count the masque), no feastival/carnival units (i.e. fire breathing or sword swallowing), one musician, and no units centered around wine or drugs (save for vague allusions to drug use via the odd flask here and there).I'd kill for more slaangor units as well, since, if I'm remembering my shit right, slaangors are basically the only beastmen who don't really hate working with humans. It'd be cool to see more of them in the range, since GW seems to like to incorporate beastmen elements into the designs of other Slaaneshi-themed shit.
>>98112755Slaangor are basically drugged off their dicks because Beastman by their very nature hate everything made by man, but they've become addicted to the luxuries of mankind.So you're either FUCKING MAD because you're indulging in what you hate, or drugged off your ass to smother the shame.
>>98112759>they've become addicted to the luxuries of mankindThis is one of the reasons why I've always found Slaangors to be the most compelling of the mono-god beastmen. It's the thinnest veneer of civilization draped over something that's so fundamentally savage. You know it's wrong, they know it's wrong, but they're too lost in the sauce to care.
>>98112736I really liked a few short stories, All is foretokd is my favourite, and Starseer's ruin which continues it is great too
>>98111473I really dont get the confusion people have here. Its very simple>AoS chaos warrior kitNew and will remain>WHF chaos warrior kitOld af and needs a refresh.Yes people (myself included) can and do use the AoS kit for TOW but they lack the option for great weapons which a new kit for TOW would take into account along with making them rank up better. I dont see how theres any implication that leads people to think the AoS kit is getting replaced.
>>98112929I was confused because of replies in the thread, which is why I wrote that drivel. Thanks anon.
>>98110914>FyreslayersDorfs>OgorsObesity >SonsVictor Wembanyama >SeraphonScalies >DoKA hot chick with animal bits
>>98112121>determine if you want guns, ninjas, or giant frankenrats.Are Pestilens no good this edition?
>>98113193>WembyLolHow dumb is it the Knicks are shit yet are in the finals on a clean sweep, yet the 2 best teams by far are duking it out still
>>98107316>Khazalid HoldsYou have acredible source for that?
>>98112755Carnivals are for nurgle only
>>98113474Sportsflation, even shit teams are really good so there are occasional upsets. I think the Knicks got it.
>>98113539Not in every sport.St George Dragons in the NRL are utterly abysmal. Expecting them to not win a single game this entire year
>>98113472The plague monk models are one of the oldest kits in the game and are probably getting replaced soon
So if im getting this right, Idoneth cant be corrupted by slaanesh because they're already ensnared by her, and are slowly dying because of the claim slaanesh has on the race.
>>98113800Where are you getting that from?
>>98114003I skimmed some Reddit posts.
>>98114018
got into mini painting at the start of the year and have been primarily doing Underworlds warbands so got really into the AoS world and lore but fuck man now seeing all the video games and shit 40K gets kinda has me seething. Just seems so much more convoluted to get into but it seems like a bottomless well of content where being a fan of AoS is just kinda patiently hanging around for the dripfeed.
>>98113800You're getting that wrong
how to make this more slaaneshy for a cogfort? I feel like its only natural to paint the elephants skin as white, but beyond that I dont have much ideas.
>>98114273Paint the tusks as tentacles
>>98114278Thats actually a fantastic idea, holy shit.
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>>98114309>>98114302too still imo. I dont really think thats bad for slaanesh per se, but its kinda boring. Also I think the howdah is perfect for the lotr mini personally.
>>98114309The rises are probably as tall as the elephant the left, Conquest isn't a 28mm game it's more like 40mm
>>98114273what spare slaanesh bits do you have?
>>98114364atm? none. I have some treelord tendrils though, and my initial thoughts were to add some jewlery around it, but it seemed vain. I like the anons idea of making the tusks tentacles.
>>98112929The thing is, there's also rumours about 'spikier slaves to darkness' for AoS because of boole and all the TLW shit. I think that means guys like picrel instead of replacing chaos warriors again, but I can see why some people might be confused.
>>98114386If they replace the cwar kit or send it to old world I will literally drop the game. Sucks because I essentially also just bought into sylvaneth but I can't be having this shit with a faction I actually play. GW needs to get their fucking head sorted.
>>98114386>>98114437Between chaos trolls and the slaangor hero you should have learned by now that the leaker is either half blind or retarded
>>98114273Elephants are integral to the cyclops myth, so either have>put a big gemstone of the forehead to imitate an eye>make a chaos mutant with 1 giant eye
>>98114437they won't send the warriors kit to the old world, both the old world and aos will get a new chaos warriors (and knights) kit each
>>98114448The current aos warriors and knights do not need replaced.
>>98114452Knights could probably be remade. Retooled at least.
>>98114452and yet they'll get onealso arguably the chaos knights do need one, they're hell to assemble and they're still the ETB ones from the start collecting set, just with an added sprue for the other 2 command options
New Chaos Warriors are for the Blacksteel faction not StD
>>98114465>black steel We’re having a gun manufacturing company collab with age of sigmar?
>>98114469One of the less remembered leaks from the whole Last World thing was some blathering about a "Blacksteel" faction of human chaos worshipers with guns.
>>98114465>Blacksteel faction not StDthat's like saying "moonclan faction not gsg"
>>98114465That sounds retarded.
>>98114440The slaangor hero was a different guy(Who btw is now claiming he only saw the sprue)
>>98114489Who said they're part of StD?
>>98114523the same guy who said they're not
By the way battletome supplements are out for all the soon-to-be legends CoS stuffhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-age-of-sigmar/
>still no scans of sylvaneth or dok oh well.
This made me go look at the TLW leaks and they seem really really stupid. Five new human factions? They’re trying to remove Slaanesh again? Kislev for AOS, not TOW? What the fuck are they thinking?
>>98114555Almost every faction has some form of the half-naked melee charger. Even in 40k that holds true.
>>98114548any TO who doesnt just make this legal in perpetuity is a fucking coward
>>98114561>remove slaaneshslaanesh just got a new model literally yesterday. this shit is either fake news or wildly misunderstood by the leakers
>>98114561well to be fair kislev was already a thing in aos just a lot more undead, and then it got blown up. funnily seems to be a bit more animated than kislev though.
>>98114548Mostly seem bad, as expected, but the general on griffon and sorceress on black dragon seem OK. I don’t think some of your CoS buffs work on these cause it’s all Sigmarite-tagged, right? But under orders stuff should.
>>98114561Slaanesh isn't going anywhere, he probably even breaking free. Also the not!kislev, not!cathay stuff aren't supposed to be actually new factions or anything, but more like background fluff. Like root kings or silent people.Though yes it's all retarded still.
If they dump the chaos aesthetic that has arguably been the iconic, space marine-equivalent unifying look for fantasy all the way from early WHFB editions to now I really have no idea who is making decisions.
>>98114595They won't, rumourmongers confirmed no models are getting axed because of TLW, it'll be fine.Only question is whether the new StD stuff will be actually StD or a new separate faction (blacksteel autarchy).Honestly both options sound kind of retarded. StD as a range is already bloated as fuck, but at the same time GA chaos really doesn't need another techy faction either.Time will tell but out of all the tlw rumours somehow the new starter box seems like the biggest mystery to me.
>>98114548Why did these niggers always have to half ass shit?These are legends warscrolls and they didn't stop for a moment and consider all the other removed stuff like wanderers and swifthawk agents and others?
>>98114561The leaks say Slaanesh is released and perhaps the starter army Human armies could just be factions or fluff. Having a Bret micro faction army is doable with a hero and a warband
>>98114595nobody is saying they're dumping the chaos aestheticand chaos has had very different aesthetics between the first editions and after 6th edition tow is keeping the plain chaos warrior, aos is getting the chaos warrior+
>>98114618I think *if* we see any of these new fluff factions in miniature form at all it will be in some kind of warcry/underworlds replacement game. I wouldn't hold my breath though.>>98114619>tow is keeping the plain chaos warrior, aos is getting the chaos warrior+If anything it seems like the other way around is at this point more likely, strange as that may seem
>>98114548>Aelves totally never liked Humans actually! >Duardin just couldn't let go of the past! They have to join Gotrek's new faction of Dispossessed and Fyreslayers who have let go of the past! I'm so tired of this shit
>>98114548Missing the Sigmarite keyword on everything lmao
>>98114641CoS keyword bingo, it's the same with the index right?
>>98114641GW is antisemitic for putting Cities aelves and duardin in the same spot as Spanish Jews in the Inquisition era desu
>>98114648No, every unit has Sigmarite. Some abilities and spells target Cities of Sigmar units but mostly it's Sigmarite. The AoR are all Sigmarite units only too.
>>98114653No I mean that prior to the battletome, CoS also had a keyword bingo thing going on right? Like the marshals only affecting 'human' keyword units, the warden kings only buffing 'duardin' keywors units, etc etc
>>98114548>Even now, with the vast majority of the Dispossessed having emigrated from the free cities to rejoin their recently returned god Grungni>The Dispossessed still fight alongside their Freeguild comrades, even if they now wear the colours and heraldry of their restored mountain kingdoms, and their service in thewaragainst the Dark Gods will not soon be forgottenRemaining boole doubters politely yet firmly btfo once more
>>98114664Yeah, they copied the faction pack Hurricanum warscroll that targets Human units but even the rare examples of open ended design like Tahlia is now Sigmarite only
>>98108964>hellstridersWtf how are these guys still around when slickblades are a thing?They're surely not long for this world right?
The new HoS battleforce is really sad.it's only like 720 points if you build the highest point units. For AoS standards that's awful. The spearhead is around 550 points for comparison.All the units in the box are awesome but if only they doubled up on the archers or seekers. Hell, swap out Sigvald and put Glutos in there.
>>98114823It's weird because it's also basically just the units from the previous spearhead, except with sigvald and the myrmidesh instead of the shardspeaker.I get that if you wanted no overlap with the new spearhead the old spearhead and battleforce are kind of going to inevitably but it still feels a bit odd.Should've doubled up on myrmidesh since those are unique out of the 3 boxes, they also have a dual build so there's not even a problem there.Maybe a keeper of secrets instead of sigvald too. Though I guess they wanted to keep it all mortal. Oh well.
Too hype after State Of Origin to go to sleep, but too full of vigor to sit down and paint.What should I do?
>>98113637Damn, shit's fucked. In America we had a comparable situation with football (handegg) where the Cleveland Browns lost all sixteen season games.
>>98114959Unlike the Browns, they actually had a period they were good, they pretty much has a decade where they absolutely dominated
>>98112187>>98112224>2028>5th edition>malerion and his elves finally arrive>they're souped with IDKhow do you react?
>>98114986Sounds fishy
>>98114595The 2002/2004 aesthetic was not unifying and wasn't even from early WHFB. The models from the late '80s look nothing like the chaos warriors GW has been releasing for the last twenty years. They were fools to change the aesthetic then and they'd be fools to change it again.
>>98114746There's some references to various Dark Elf forces joining Morathi, too. Dark Elf soup beckons.
>>98114986idoneth can't be with the shadow elves any more than sylvaneth can be with the light elvesat best idoneth and sylvaneth can be joined into one book of outsiders
>>98114999Oh come on the basic aesthetic was always there. I will grant that they were way, way more heterogeneous in the day (as was basically everything) but every chaos warrior since has very obviously built on this fundamental design
>>98113472Pestilens has an underworlds warband, 2 units that are just alt builds, and currently the worst looking model for the range with the plague monks. (Which will stick around that way since holy shit if Skaven get a third wave before some factions even get a second I'll lose my mind.)
>>98114760They will be around so long as the Daemonette Version exists.
>>98115283Skaven have had 3 waves already this edition
>>98114986why would you make a hypothetical of a soup faction when you dont even know the second faction
>>98115292Did they?! Cuz we had Skaventide and all the skryre stuff, was vizzik and like... The mouldr stuff the 2nd wave? God damn Skaven have got so much stuff.
>>98115287They're two entirely separate kits if that what you mean, it's not a black knights / hexwraiths situation
>>98114386That kit was designed by a fucking psycho and I can't imagine trying to paint it
>>98115330WAIT THEY ARE? So they just have a slightly edited sprue for the daemon version holy shit... Now that's downright goofy.>>98115338I was half tempted to grab some for the sake of it but I figured other warcry warbands fit the same thing anyways and don't need me to paint... that
>>98115344Yeah tripped me up too since it's the exact same seekers obviously
>>98115350It almost feels stranger that it's not a black knights/ hexwraiths situation.
>>98115301They are quite literally the most popular army in age of sigmar, by a fair margin. 5 different clans means 5 different ways to appeal to players, plus they've just got a great aesthetic all around and now their range has the quality to match the art. Also wildly versatile listbuilding. They've got so many different playstyles and the best terrain piece in the game in my opinionProbably one of the best miniature ranges gw has ever done
>>98115301>skaventide>vizzik + moulder + stormvermin + heroes>City of Ash
>>98115387It's funny that I think cities and skaven are both gonna be the biggest and most updated ranges because they were also the most popular in other media from fantasy.God I want my Cogfort and Knellmage.
>>98115391I don't think cities will become THAT popular anytime soon
>>98115393Oh god no, but I do think they'll get a decently chunky range to attract folks in.
>>98115301Technically yeah if you count the launch box and the post-launch content as two separate waves but imo those are kind of tied together>>98115387Are they? I think in terms of armies collected stormcast probably still win out
>>98115393CoS is guaranteed to attract some waacfags and hobby bros.Former will enjoy the tricky rules while the latter will have a lot of room for yourdudes
>>98115393>>98115615I do think they're setting CoS up to be a kind of "protagonist" faction through which we view a lot of the setting especially in TLW which will probably translate to an increase in popularity alongside their new massive waveThey're already one of the more developed factions in terms of fleshed out subfactions and /yourdudes/ potential
>>98115722>which will probably translate to an increase in popularity alongside their new massive waveDidn't really work for Empire back in WFB so i could see it happening the same to CoS
>>98115391>>98115615>>98115722fluff doesn't matteronly the size of the range
>>98115749this layout feels unhinged, elves are some reason are all in a sector but then humans, lizards, and dorfs are all in another. Does go to show that Chaos and Order both completely fucking outweight Death and Destro.
got into Warhammer through AoS only this year. I know Warhammer Fantasy is the old world that got nuked into AoS but is there enough overlap there that I'd enjoy Total War Warhammer 3? want some warhamma vidya for when i dont have people to play with irl
>>98115944If you like watching funny little dudes beat the shit out of each other in over the top ways then yeah TWW is pretty fuckin' neato.
>>98115944Warhammer games generally aren’t good imo.
>>98115944>is there enough overlapyes
>>98115944Yeah probably, some of the races are fun. They all have a little minigame sometimes it's fun like chaos dwarfs sometimes it's just annoying like wood elves.
>>98115749>fluff doesn't matter, only the size of the rangeI agree it's the number 1 most important factor generally but there are exceptionsCities had the largest range in the game for a while when they were still the garbage bin faction and they were middlingFec also always punch above their weight mainly thanks to having probably the best "hook" of any factionSlaanesh is less popular than their range would suggest due to reasons already discussed earlier in this threadSons of behemat in generalStuff like that
>>98116037>Fec also always punch above their weight mainly thanks to having probably the best "hook" of any factionGod I hope we get updates, A gobbapalooza styled unit and a kit refresh of crypt ghouls and maybe 1-2 more units (or a medium sized monster) would do wonders for ghouls. Also maybe giving us something a bit better than the rotating buffs system they just kinda took from gitz.
>>98115944total war is okay but its not the action packed sort of mid table brawls and counter charges and gods fighting gods of age of sigmar.its a slow moving 20 square formations wheeling around a half an inch at a time and then zoom out to a geopolitical map that takes days to finish a single game of. its a very slow burn, complex game with a learning curve so steep it may as well be a vertical line. age of sigmar also has an RTS which is smaller scale and mostly focused on battles, but its army selection is limited and the controls are crap. the story mode is good though, the ending is definitely worth a playthrough. story mode is kinda hard though, even on the easiest setting. the mission timers are very tight, you can easily lose a mission in 3 minutes without even realizing how you lost if you fail to capture a flag quick enough or somethinganother option is the return to reckoning warhammer online private server is still running and reasonably populated. its free, and that game is more a wow-esque mmo where you control one character. its almost entirely focused around its pvp, which is pretty good, but the questing and dungeons leave a bit to be desired. still you can play as an orc, a dwarf, a goblin, a high elf, a dark elf, a chaos mutant or a human and each race has multiple special racial themed classes like slayer, black orc, chaos warrior, bright wizard, witch hunter, etc. plus its completely free to play, and as far as i've heard has GWs unofficial blessing under the table to exist without legal action.
>>98116037>Cities had the largest range in the game for a while when they were still the garbage bin faction and they were middlingthat wasn't a range, those were leftovers
>>98116055>A gobbapalooza styled unitEveryone always suggests a gobbapalooza style unit but how many has GW actually done? it feels like gw is never going to make another of its like.
>>98116074I'm counting every black library buddy squad as a gobbapalooza styled unit.
>>98116061Total War does not have a steep learning curve, you might just be dumb.>as far as i've heard has GWs unofficial blessing under the table to exist without legal action.you probably are just dumb
>>98116074Aren’t those just command corps?
>>98116088them too ye! Realistically I think a command corps type thing for ghouls would be fun if not just to get some weird sculpts and a little variety going. (Oooo even more fun, could be like a little squad rotating who's in charge each one dressed in different garb but with like one crown they swap between them.
>>98116083>>98116088not sure they count, how many people who suggest a gobbapalooza unit would have used one of those as example instead?
>>98116087okay internet tough guy
>>98116115I mean realistically it could be a few things, Gobapalooza, underworlds gang, command squad, black library buddies, pretty much just Katakros. Realistically it boils down to, like 4 hero tier models slapped into a unit with various different things they do.
>>98115944Yeah I mean some of the factions are basically 1 to 1 ports, obviously a lot of overlap in general concepts like chaos etc, it's a fine enough game.>>98116061>complex gameI guess it depends on the kind of games you're used to but I found it pretty easy to get into. Campaign movement and engagement has some annoying and arbitrary rules that can catch you on your playthrough but after 1 game I basically got the hang of it. The actual campaign management is really simple if you're used to paradoxslop (like I was).Though things might be more difficult now that every other city had a legendary lord starting there idk I only played 1 and 2.>>98116074Command corps (though they got split up), gobbapalooza, and then a bunch of black library squads. Saviours of cinderfall, brand's oathbound, the blacktalons, ... Though I guess the black library bands are kind of their own thing imo.
>>98116104>the 3 monkeys>but it's ghouls missing eyes/jaw/parts of the head>and together they are the court's oracles and advisors
>>98116171Deaf ghoul with no ears just gaping holes in his head holding up a massive one of those 1900's ear phones, one ghoul with his mouth sewn shut violently shaking around papers trying to inform you of his ideas, and another ghoul with no eyes tripping on like a skull or something using a bone as one of those blind people sticks.
>>98115944If you like greenskins, skaven, lizards, chaos, yeah it has everything you might want
>>98116104Yeah imo a gobbapalooza style unit would fit perfectly with FEC, a bunch of courtly characters that are maybe a bit too niche to work as their own standalone characters but still present fun ideas within fec's nightmarish courtly gimmick>chamberlain>keeper of the horse>jester (MUST HAVE)>captain of the guard (this one could work on its own tbf)>court painter>bard>herald>scribe/chronicler>debutante>...Literally endless options to choose from for a little 5 man Court unit
>>98116262Squire would be fantastic in having a dude who buffs your knight units when nearby, maybe have Jester be a one time magnet for attacks (or have any ranged fire go directly into his health pool first) , painter would be a blast, i'm imagining a ghoul doing one of those hands in front of eyes things and an easel that's just a whole rack of skinned guy, bard kinda falls into jester category i'll say.Debutante in having like, "here's your sexy ghoul" probably not like the image but you get the idea. (If you can somehow get a frilly dress out of flayed skin, that's the vibe)
>>98116287For a debutante I was more thinking along the lines of crazy late medieval fashion and how you could adapt that to the gorey theme of FEC. Squire is a really cool idea too.Also man just think about all the nonsense you could freehand on a FEC painter's canvas...
Thinking about kitbashing the limited fug ugly necharch model with some left over spite revenant bits to make a shard speaker of slaanesh. Bit worried on replacing the chest but worst case scenario a sash on the hips can cover the imperfections up.
>>98116354go for it!
>>98116354>necrach out of spite revenant bits as a shardspeaker for slaaneshI'm not sure I followalso whatever happened to necracrchs in AoS? they kind of got sidelined in favour of the new dynasties
>>98116386>I'm not sure I followLegs kinda have a slaanesh feel to em, also breast enlargement and the soul pod on their stomach also feels particularly lewd for the revenant chest which is probably fitting. Also the spite female head looks a lot like daemonette.>whatever happened to necracrchs in AoS?While not as scheming, that’s basically what avengorri seems to be.
>>98116416I thought the whole schtick of the avengorii is that they don't pretend they're not insatiable monsters and just don't give a fuck about containing their thirst or any such nonsense
>>98116430My read on the Avengorii was “yeah I’m a monster but atleast I’m not a degenerate”
