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A thread for discussing the Star Wars franchise and its various media and tabletop games.

spooky region edition

>Adepticon roadmaps:
https://www.atomicmassgames.com/transmission/adepticon-2026-roadmap-star-wars-legion/
https://www.atomicmassgames.com/transmission/adepticon-2026-roadmap-star-wars-shatterpoint/

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Fantasy Flight Games’ X-Wing, Armada, and Legion
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>https://pastebin.com/iUriRfaA

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>http://pastebin.com/ZE4gn0yN

Old links
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>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/transmission/update-on-star-wars-x-wing-and-star-wars-armada/
>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/star-wars-legion-documents
>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/star-wars-legion-transmissions
>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/swp-transmissions/
>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/swp-rules/

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>https://edge-studio.net/a-new-hope/
>https://edge-studio.net/star-wars-edge/

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>https://swudb.com/
>https://karabast.net

TQ: How would you like to see the unknown regions portrayed and developed more, and how do you portray them in your games? also what are your own theories and beliefs about the unknown regions?

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>>98084579
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>How would you like to see the unknown regions portrayed and developed more, and how do you portray them in your games?

More horrific things in there and a reason that everyone stays out or doesn't come back.
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>>98109784
>How would you like to see the unknown regions portrayed and developed more, and how do you portray them in your games?
With multiple factions strong enough to go against the Republic/the Empire, but not strong enough to overwhelm them
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taking the idea from an anon on /co/

i'll call this the master and apprentice dooku-ology
>Dooku: Jedi Lost
>ToTJ Dooku Episodes
>Dark Disciple
>ToTU Ventress Episodes
the novels are great together, and the animations are great companion pieces to each novel
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>TQ
Full of big titty alien babes who are totally into humans. Come on bro, they're just around the corner
>t. Mnggal-Mnggal gang
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>>98109846
>After the Battle of Yavin, Jana T'bayr worked for the GeneTech Syndicate in a laboratory located outside the city of Dearic.[1] The lab was listed towards Talusian authorities as engaging in legitimate genetic manipulation on animals.[2] In fact, Jana T'bayr was involved in the the Parasophic Arachne program,[1] an illegal and dangerous bioengineering project conducted by the GeneTech Syndicate. The objective of the program was to create an intelligent and powerful form of arachnes for the use of the Galactic Empire.[2] The project was led by Doctor Vigh, the chief scientist of the GeneTech Syndicate.[3] The Parasophic Arachne program could be considered as a success since the GeneTech Syndicate scientists eventually managed to create deadly and intelligent creatures.[4] Jana T'bayr was involved in the development of the queen's mate, the largest and strongest arachne of the Parasophic Arachne program.[1]

>However, In 1 ABY,[5] the bioengineered arachnes had become so smart and ferocious that they finally managed to overwhelm their creators and slaughtered most of the staff of the lab. All the surviving scientists quickly fled to avoid being arrested and charged with illegal biological experiments.[2] Jana T'bayr was the sole scientist to stay behind and remain in the lab. She initially wanted to save the project but she then realized that she had to find a way to prevent the parasophic arachnes from destroying the planet Talus.[1]

>When the CorSec finally became aware of what was happening in the GeneTech Syndicate Lab, Agent Taarna dispatched a CorSec crew to clean the lab. The CorSec targeted the arachne queen, the arachne responsible for breeding the parasophic arachnes,[2] and the arachne eggs in order to prevent the spread of the species.[6]


also your pic is spooky
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i know many did not vibe with them, but personally i really liked Zakuul and Iokath. I would love to see how these places look like in the current timeline, long after the events of Swtor are done. Now, with Swtor being legends, i obviously never will.
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>>98109784
just created the stat blocks for a star wars solo game I am planning to play in mini 6 (kind of a slightly pared down version of WEG star wars thats generic). Bit hard to get a new session going at my local library while we already have a game going, so I find solo a good outlet to try out different systems.

The main character is going to be an empire turn coat who now works for Rebel intelligence, and on occasion does freelance work. He turned in part due to Bothan contacts, and still has some contacts with the Bothan spy network. Because of this he has a Bothan chauffeur who is a bit strange for her race because she is more interested in piloting and getting her hands dirty rather than intelligence work. Their arrangement works out as she gets to go fast and bust heads while he does the snooping and brain works.
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>>98110137
these guys seem kinda...interesting
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https://www.atomicmassgames.com/transmission/scene-to-stats-mandalorian-leaders/
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>>98110224
With the release of Fate of the Old Republic, disney might be tempted to revisit the era, since it's as far away as possible from the sequels and the discussions around them
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>>98110137
>strong enough to go against the Republic/the Empire
eh, idk, Seems unlikely given the sive of the unknown region. More like sector threats rather than equal or near equal rivals.
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>>98110462
possible, but from what i gathered, it seemed like Fate of the Old Republic will be set in the between time of Kotor and the return of the Swtor empire
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>>98110573
I hope they use KoTOR and the Tales comics as the background.
Way too much of the worse Pre-Disney excess got used or calcified in TOR.
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>>98109784
Sometimes I wish there was a large scale fan project with people naming unnamed characters in the films. I kinda suck at storytelling though I guess in the spirit of the other thread where someone said that fanfiction can be written by anyone I could try, I just find even the most random Stormtrooper a valid character to tell a story
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>>98110660
>was a large scale fan project with people naming unnamed characters in the films
anon, they already did that in canon and eu. Thats what a Glup shitto is.
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>>98110660
>What's your name?
>Elan.
>Elan what? Who are your people?
>I don't have a people. Nobody wants a sleazebag like me.
>Hmmm...
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>>98110699
I mean outside of that. You'd be shocked how many characters are completely unnamed in the film, and a lot that ARE named are from single competitions like What's The Story.
EU focused on more important characters.
>>98110732
Sleazebaggano was named like that by Lucas, his name appears in the Visual Dictionaries released before the film.
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>>98110454
season 3 sucked but paz's last stand was goated
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>>98110454
>Bo-Katan Kryze
>"Savior of Mandalore"
>gets her people nearly genocided
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>>98111010
Why is Disney pushing her so hard? She is terrible both by normal AND mandalorian standards (coward, turns on Maul despite him winning against Pre fair and square)
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>>98111154
Because abandoning your culture if its icky and values strength and self reliance is Disney approved.
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>>98110454
Thinking about countering his 1 pip, the only two things that come to mind would be force pushing him, and tying him up in melee. You'll still take at least 1 attack then.
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>>98110531
>More like sector threats rather than equal
That's what I meant. Just big enough to start a decently sized war, but not big enough to be an existential threat
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>>98110137
Ssiruuvi imperium, chiss ascendancy, yuuzhan vong?
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>>98110454
Paz is cool but I'm not sure his command card is worth it as a thing to plan around but rather as an "Fuck you too" button to turn a point.
His model is also kinda ass.
Armorer looks baller and her having Vader's 1-pip feels weird.
Bo-Katan looks nice and will probably be even better with a Darksaber upgrade. Her command cards are damn good.
Axe is great. Nothing flashy but reliable. Nice synergy with Bo's 3-pip.
>>98111213
Getting in melee won't help since his gatling gun gets Versatile.
Imo the counter is either try to burst him down, ideally with snipers or just let him get the point he is on and ignore him.
Sure, Force Push works using your 150-200pts to counter a 105-120pts unit is probably exactly what the other guy wants.
Also if your Jedi is close enough to Paz when that card is played you probably are winning already...
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>>98110156
>New York times bestseller
Has this phrase been memed yet?
This at this point means nothing on any book. It’s a participation trophy.
>>98110224
I think swtor did well because it is so far away from the main star wars stuff that it is practically it’s own universe in itself.
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I think the Unknow Regions should stay as unknow, it's a fun way to say there's stuff there but since it's not mapped it can be anything outside of the knowledge of the main regions without having to go to another galaxy. Though Ahsoka already did that...
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>>98111232
oh, "GO against the republic" sounded to me like "rough parity with the republic give or take" rather than "signifigant, but clearly not equal to the full might".
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>>98111525
>Has this phrase been memed yet?
have you been hiding under a rock? That has been a meme since DVD, maybe even VCR's.


But on the topics of books, has anyone read kenobi? I heard that it was good and it actually won some more signifigant rewards. I watched a video where someone ranking all eu books put it above thrawn stuff like outbound flight. Call me a sap, but I find GOOD jedi stuff really interesting in its ruminations on universal, philosophical principles.
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>>98110137
This activates an autistic subject for me.
I want to see a droid faction. Something like the other end of an Underground Railroad. A droid nation who might not be able to fight the whole Empire but could hold their system(s) against absolutely disproportionate numbers of incoming ships. I feel like in the OT years it would have been too expensive and unfamiliar to have droids be the focus of a story, but once it was established that a droid army could be a real threat (i.e. the clone wars) it must follow that after the conflict all the sentient droids had to go somewhere and a few must have been able to survive the Great Factory Recall.
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>>98111585
I kinda agree with this but with a caviate. I think the barrier between the known and unknown region should always be merky and indefinite, but occasionally weird creatures and factions pop out of it, but without any consistancy.
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>>98111638
eh, idk, I think its a particular star wars thing to not have droids be all that capable of independent organization. THat kind of gets into the territory of seen that before robot revolution stuff. I prefer the idea that droids are a solved technology that have querks and personalitites that are endearing, but they are not truly people. They have engrained priorities but their methodologies can be unique through querks of code and experience. Thats why people seem to talk about memory wiping them so nonchalantly.

I think that fits better with star war's analog tech anyways.
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>>98111154
She's a woman and was in The Clone Wars. There is no other feasible reason.
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>>98111671
I dunno. I just can't get past the Star Wars message of "plucky rebellion of misfits and underdogs is morally superior to Nazism" but also "slavery is OK if you regularly lobotomise the workers".
Plus I'd greatly prefer it if the robots weren't rebelling, just withdrawing. Like they don't bear grudges, they have their own shit to do, they do harbour "awoken" droids who flee to join them, and woe betide persistent interlopers.
Kind of Ent-like. Especially because it would make a cool OT era campaign having PCs bring them into the rebellion and instead of sending droid fighters they win the Rebellion's info war for them.
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>>98111638
Honestly the idea that droids are both sentient beings and yet serve by nature is something that makes them distinct for Star Wars.
There's a million and one settings where droids are "But what if robots = real people? Therefore slavery!"
A setting where they're slaves, but designed in such a way that for 99% of robots the word is effectively a poor fit because they have no will to freedom is far more interesting.

Same as the Geonosians are more interesting if instead of "Oh, the elites and nobles oppressing the working (bug) class" they are biologically encoded to work that way, the same way humans are encoded to desire kinship and a tribe.

Speculative fiction is at its most interesting when the speculation goes beyond "Well everyone is just basically human deep down."
Talk shit all you like about Harry Potter, but what it did with the House Elves was actually interesting and something similar would work perfectly for droids.
"Oh they're slaves! We should free them."
"You come near me with that John Brown shit and I'll hook you in the gabber m8."
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>>98111746
I couldn't agree less with your examples but OK.
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>>98111705
>>98111746
To be fair I never understood the obsession with Star Wars Droids social standing when their intelligence is shown to be between the level of a smart trained animal (astromech and other non-humanoid droids) and a retarded autist that can't really fit in society or a very slow kid at best (for the humanoid ones).
The most independent ones we are shown like HK-47 or L3-37 mostly can't be left unsupervised without doing something retarded that fits with their programming.
Even some like Super Tactical Droids are just very articulate strategy-autists.
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>>98111834
Maybe it's just my own autism. Maybe it's because the droids tend to have an unflashy and hard working personality which resonates with me. Some of it is just aesthetic, cos robots are cool.
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IMO, bounty hunters have cooler characters than Jedi or Sith

and even then half of them is mostly due down to design
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>>98111926
>>98111834
>>98111746
The fun thing about droids is even if they are sapient, they could still enjoy being kinda slaves if they're just programmed to. Like how humans have instinctual desires to do things that feel good, droids would basically just have the same instinctual desires, except in regards to doing the thing they were made for and serving. It would only be unpleasant for them if you programmed them to hate the thing they desire to do like Muggy, which why tf would you even do that in the first place.

Basically robot revolutions wont happen as long as the droids are programmed to enjoy their jobs, then they'll happily be your slave.
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>>98109784
>How would you like to see the unknown regions portrayed and developed more
Give it better distinction from wild space
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>>98110156
Dooku Jedi Lost is peak
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>>98111926
>>98111996
True, desu, I think those with autis sm should be legally allowed to be slaves as well. Its best for all parties involved that way. If you could wipe their memories, of course.
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>>98111996
tbf, the only droids we ever see in the movies just fulfill thier particular purpose. c3p0 thinks whatever is the current named master IS his master. While R2D2 seemed to have been programed to think Obi-wan, then luke, was his master. I guess IG88 is an exception, but that is outside of movie stuff.
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>>98111992
well duh, that because prequels shit made all jedi the same. while bounty hunters could be anything and everything.
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Are there any space capable snow speeders? I always loved the reverse flying squirrel look of the design, but given their purpose, they aren't that flexible of a signature vehicle.
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>>98112486
it's a nice read

I wish they got corey and nika for the audiodrama however, I guess you can AI voice it but it's not the same
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>>98112763
It wouldn't make much sense in-universe because a speeder needs gravity to function. The design is neat, though. I'm sure you could rig something together with space-capable engines. Such a thing would fit, as a lot of ships are using aftermarket parts and rebuilds of old stuff.
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>>98111154
she has a great ass
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>>98111992
I'm just glad embo and his dog from the clone wars survived instead of getting killed off in the lamest way like cad bane did
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Stop Using the Force.
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>>98112875
Embo did NOT job.
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>>98112875
>and his dog from the clone wars
It's a new dog. Different name. If the old one was killed or just died because 20 something years is too much for these space dogs, we don't know.
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>>98112919
>It's a new dog. Different name.
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What is the most beginner friendly Star Wars system for a first time GM? I'm interested in trying to run a game right around the time Attack of the Clones takes place, with the potential to move into the Clone Wars if the campaign continues on long enough, but I've never run any ttrpg, and don't have experience with any SW ttrpg. As a player I've only played 5e, Pathfinder and kids on brooms, but I'm not super experienced in these either.
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>>98112895
>things said by cucks.
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>>98112930
>What is the most beginner friendly Star Wars system for a first time GM?
Honestly, the d6 system by WEG. But if you're familiar with DnD, the d20 system is alright. The current FFG has a learning curve because of the narrative dice, but it's a fun system.
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>>98112930
>I've never run any ttrpg
> only played 5e
well those are two different things.
I would say if you had no experience then west end games, the original, but if you have played a d20 system like 5e then star wars d20 would obviously be more approachable.

WED is dice pool with d6's, d20 is as it says.
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>>98112898
he one-tapped mando in the first fight and fought to a standstill in the second
what a chad
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>>98111154
She's a woman.
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>>98112875
>He thinks Cad Bane is dead
Lmao. No one's ever really gone.
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>>98113136
I wouldn't complain, the final shot of him did linger on his heart thing still blinking for way too long and anything to undo that dogshit show would be a good thing
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>>98109784
>How would you like to see the unknown regions portrayed and developed more
Not at all, not one scrap, I want it to be a blank space for people to paint on, canon has enough already.
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So, there are more Hutt lords in Nal Hutta, right? Because the New Republic just invaded and exploded one of their castles. Maybe it's good for other Hutts in the competition, but it also looks bad for them.
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>>98113241
The hutt's military capabilities waned under the empire. The palace security itself was pretty fucked though. Turbolasers for shooting down capital ships but none for small fighters? I guess thats what the hutt fighters are for but i honestly don't get why the most powerful hutt family had to resort to using scrapped-together droids for security instead of an actual personal army of weequays and shit.
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>>98113103
Mando definitely got outplayed in the first fight running into the shock trap, the second looked to me like Din was winning bar sudden interference that ended it. Either way Embo had a good showing, probably the best Disney Wars' has ever treated a secondary antagonist.
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WEG did great with just 3 Force skills, Alter, Control and Sense works for everything.
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>>98112810
>AI voice it
No, never.
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>>98113417
WEG also let Force users eclipse all other characters effortlessly, made easier by the fact you only has three skills to invest in. FFG knew to balance their game better by making the Force powerful but come with a hefty XP investment, which is objectively superior.
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>>98112870
A nice arse does not make a good Mandalore unfortunately

>>98113307
I think it’s very telling that the Twin’s did not have any of the traditional Hutt client/vassal species present, I personally think that they were in very, very deep shit.
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>>98113678
>A nice arse does not make a good Mandalore unfortunately
It's not her fault, it's Ahsoka's.
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>>98112930
FFG is easier to learn because the rules for actually playing the game are less complex, its easier to make characters, and character progression is more straightforward.
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>>98112959
>learning curve because of the narrative dice
Use a digital roller that compiles the results.
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Why are you running?
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>>98113307
I imagine on a long enough timeline, Sheev would've came for the Hutts.
If only out of pure boredom
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Today, I will remind them
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>>98113678
The ST-eta book, Bloodline. Which was a doomed attempt to square the ST’s circle.
Claims a lot of vassal species said their contracts were done after Jabba died.

How could this be?
NuCanon seems to have cobbled together some idea that when the Hutt Council met their ends (in the comics).
Jabba, who was conveniently not present and left earlier, assumed de facto control for the few months.
He was in no hurry to organise new heads.
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I cant wait for my mando army box bros
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>>98114185
>Oh Lord the Confederacy is coming for my black ass! Save me Snoke-Man!
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>Morgan Elsbeth was a challenging opponent for Ahsoka due to her skill in the exotic fighting forms Echani firefist, Dathomiri mistdance, and Coruscanti hijkata.
>- The Mandalorian Visual Guide

so some rando that knows kung-fu can be a challenging opponent for ahsoka
ahsoka confirmed to just be shit?
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>>98114717
>ahsoka confirmed to just be shit?
Always has been.
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>>98114717
That's how it goes when you don't get fully trained. If she had stuck with Anakin she would have mogged Elsbeth so hard it wouldn't even be funny
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>>98114856
>>98114869
it's just funny when you see someone make some absurd claim like she's top 5 most skilled jedi ever, and their evidence is
>that one inquisitor (bullshit)
>not dying to vader (bullshit)
meanwhile everything else has her losing or struggling against chump opponents like general grievous
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>>98112959
>>98112961
I'll look into the WEG more then. My normal group that I'd likely be running for all have varying degrees of experience levels regarding different ttrpgs, but we also have a backseat DM who is constantly questioning and critiquing all the other players so the further away from a familiar system like D20, the better.
>>98113720
I did pick up the Edge of Destiny beginner box on sale at a local game store that was closing just to get a feel for the system. It doesn't seem horribly complex, but I don't know how well my group would do with the narrative dice system either. I also want sure how beginner friendly FFG would be to run, but it's good to know it may be fairly easy to pick up.

Thanks anons
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>>98113241
That air raid was the most unnecesary thing in the movie. Mando had it under control, but then New Republic decided to go full Maduro on the Twins
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I did not expect the two TFU bosses guarding the twins.
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>>98110224
They both appear on a canon map, so presumably they exist in the canon timeline as well, even if the exact events of the game aren't canon.
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>>98112848
hmm, maybe the frame could be used but the back is extended a bit to house the extra planetary systems?

A little creature comfort thing I like about the snow speeder is rear gunner seat, which ofc could be used for a rear gunner, or just for interior luggage or a nice full recline by folding it down so you can get some z's laying down.
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>>98112763
>>98115365
Oh, I just brain blasted myself. A converted space capable snow speeder that swaps the rear gun with a sensor sweet could be a good fit for the comms based single seater ship I was looking for!

Sometimes just typing shit into the anonymous void is the best way to figure something out.
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>>98112930
Saga is pretty simple... On the proviso you are playing it with people of similar knowledge of the system. My recent experience with it tells me there are 3 kinds of Saga players:

1) Clueless. Just want to do Star Wars things and have fun.
2) Intermediate. They have fun with the system and come up with weird and wacky builds.
3) Dickheads. They know the system inside out, forward, backward, inside out. They will minmax the fuck out of every character they play and complain when others don't do the same. Any attempt at innovation on the system or setting is met with utter contempt, as are houserules, because that throws off their entire build strategy.

But yeah, play with the guys around the same level of knowledge of the system and you'll do fine.
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>>98114717
>Dathomiri mistdance
Sounds lewd, I want to see this
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>>98116330
I just known Respawn is going to fail Jedi 3 at the last hurdle.
But I don’t want them to.
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>>98115647
D20 can be rather tactical, and if you plppay with peooppel who lllike this it can be fun do minmax and stomp NPCs in combat
Just talk to your players.

>>98112930
Overall, I would suggest FFG
it 'feels' very Star Wars
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>>98116418
I know. But maybe, just maybe, they wake up in time.
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>>98115383
boobs lol
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>>98114940
>chump opponents like general grievous
I miss the days when Mace Windu was afraid of fighting Grievous.
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>>98116764
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ventressfag here

I met Nika Futterman over the weekend! she's a nice lady and she signed my copy of Dark Disciple, but I have some information to share

firstly, I was wrong and it was Filoni who brought her back, from what I can tell what she told me was that the general story idea of using ventress for tales of the underworld came first, and when bad batch needed a character she was top of the list because of it

also:
>she confirmed ToTU takes place before her bad batch episode (I already knew this, I was surprised that she actually knew about it)
>the 3rd thing she was in that she teased in an old interview was indeed lego star wars
>she didn't indicate anything about ventress appearing in shadow lord (I did ask her if she'd appear in "METAL", which is its production name)
>she mentioned that she had heard that a lucasfilm higherup wants to do something with ventress, after all why go through all this effort to bring her back?

thanks for reading my blog post
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>>98114717
she's a nightsister, not just some rando
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>>98117027
I mean, that looks like some sort of gunship shooting at him there. Even in Tartakovsky clone wars a gunship would still force him into a retreat.
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>>98117027
>if he's so good why can't he handle heavy ordinance saturating his position???
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>>98116455
>D20 can be rather tactical
In what way? I m familiar with dnd style d20 systems as well as WEG's style d6. and the d6 system seems far and away more tactically complex. Damage downs you quick, but cover grants you a massive bonus that you arent practically going to break consistantly with brute stats. you instead got to flank. THat plus distinct damage mitigations between dodging, parrying, blocking and soaking and the ability to take multiple actions if youtake penalties to all of those actions makes the core system really tactically dense, even without special abilities and what not. what does d20 do to make it tactical?
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>>98117120
If he were truly good he wouldn't be in a position where he was being saturated by heavy ordinance without back up in the first place.
Just saying.
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>>98117137
That same line of logic applies to almost every jedi in TCW when they constantly get into positions where they're surrounded by the enemy and only don't die because the droids refrain from shooting them for no reason.
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>>98117117
>>98117120
>Running away from a gunship is the exact same as crawling into a fetal position like a pussy where it can just blow your head open (for some reason the clones don't do this and get rid of the main CIS general)
fucking retards
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>>98117160
Oh absolutely. I think Grievous should be a full throated bad-ass.
You're only as cool as your antagonists after all.
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>>98117160
>>98117181
>>98117186
Or in Cad Bane's first episode where Anakin struggles fist fighting with one of those ig-88 droids, instead of just, idk, using the fucking force on it?
If Anakin without a lightsaber struggles that much against a regular ass ig droid, Grievous should be trouncing him easily.
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>>98117181
this user is mexican and believes in powerscaling
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I think we take it for granted since star wars is so formative, but the idea of a robot companion that intigrates with your ship to help you out is pretty fucking metal and unique as far as sci fi concepts go.
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>>98117083
Neat.
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>>98117122
I can't reallly commment on WEGG D6, I only played it once and that was decades ago.

I do not know the system very well, and back when I played it I felt extremely limited by my characters lack of (trained) skills.
I was goood at the things I knew, but utterlly useless in all other situations.
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>>98117295
>not wanting the main villain to literally crawl into a fetus position and basically be ready to die the second any sort of defeat is imminent means you are a powerscaler and also bad
???
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>>98117181
>minimizing your target size when you're caught out in the open is le bad because...
>uh...
>it just is okay!!!
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>>98117381
>when I played it I felt extremely limited by my characters lack of (trained) skills.
That's a fair enough criticism I also felt at first. I felt the solution was to take the skills as broadly as possible, and for things that you don't have skills in, keep the target numbers at 6+ 11+ or 16+. I had to switch from my dnd and Call of Cthulu brain a little to get that.

If I am being completely honest, I think it might have been better if it had a career system instead of a skill system. where you could have a career like "fighter pilot" that covered piloting, engineering, and small arms, anything that is in the general career sphere of a fighter pilot, rather than strict unidimensional skill like just "pilot"
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>>98116764
>I miss the days when Mace Windu was afraid of fighting Grievous.
When was this ever the case? RotS has Mace calling Grievous a coward and even in Genndywars Mace has no qualms at all about fighting Grievous and force crushing his chest. TCW Grievous rarely comes off as threatening because he gets reused like a saturday morning cartoon villain, like Maul later becomes after spending decades being a loser against basically everyone. Except Mandos, but Mandos are a designated loser race.
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force sensitives in hand to hand combat is always a neat idea, they should do it more often
>ninja disarms ventress almost immediately because that's the smart thing to do
>she proceeds to beat his ass with hand to hand combat because she knows teras kasi or whatever
neat!
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>>98117518
>Except Mandos, but Mandos are a designated loser race.
oh, it's retarded
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>>98115308
they do? On what canon map do they appear on? Care to post it if you have it available?
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>>98117518
one of my biggest "logic" gripe with star wars is the inconsistence of force use.
at times they're forced to grab people by the hand to pull them off ledges, other times they can easily fling people around and hold them in the air using the force.
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>ahsoka canonized that zabraks are an extragalactic species
for what purpose
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>>98117602
I love Mandalorian tears. A race whose biggest claim to fame is losing every space war they participate in, based entirely on one dude's cool looking armor whose biggest moment was getting tossed into a sand vagina in a slapstick manner by a blind man.
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>>98117652
Nightsisters are. Not Zabraks. Zabraks are not Nightsisters. Zabraks are from Iridonia. They were taken to Dathomir and then bred with Nightsisters that had already lived there. It was stated in Clone Wars.
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>>98117658
trying too hard retard-kun
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>>98117684
NTA, but honestly? Mandalorians are at their most interesting when they're kind of shitheads.
KOTOR's "Glorified thugs with a hard on for conquest who have a culture that's systemically incompatible with the galaxy at large" is far more interesting than "Muh honour, muh found family, I can't take off muh helmet or else someone'll call me a gayboi and that'll make me sad ;_;"
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>>98117721
being a contrarian doesn't make you interesting
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>>98117730
>Only contrarians want the Mandalorians to be an actual distinct culture rather than generic proud warrior race who screams about honour #47
Alright retard, toddle on back to your bucket o' paste™, the adults are talking ITT.
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>>98117740
>actual distinct culture
>generic viking raiders
and don't forget
>seething so hard he's crying kid
(you) tried
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>>98117684
No need to be so sensitive, anon. Mandos are cool dudes and have plenty of /yourdude/ potential. That doesn't change the fact that the lore has them consistently job to buld up a different enemy, particularly in Filoni's works. The guy literally had them get glassed as a way to hype up Moff Gideon, who gets pretty handily defeated by Din and captured outright.
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>>98117518
It's in one of the novelizations. The two of them fight, and not only does Grievous match pretty well against him, he even starts to learn to mimic Mace's style. The whole reason Mace immediately uses the force on him the next time they run into each other is specifically because Mace is trying to do whatever he can to avoid fighting Grievous in a duel a second time, because he's horrified by the possibility of Grievous learning how to replicate his style and using it against even more Jedi.
So yea, Grievous was a serious opponent for Mace one on one, to the point he just used the force to duck a second fight rather than risk Grievous learning even more about how he fought.
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Oh my God, that EUfag is shitting and pissing himself again.
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>>98117782
>>98117721
>>98117658
>>98117602
>>98117518
Tbf literally everyone gets blown out at some point. The entire Jedi order got purged at least two separate times(three including Disney) and had to be rebuilt from scratch. Sith almost all got wiped out a couple times too, both worse than the Mandalorians, because at least they stayed as a society. No one has ever been wiped out as hard as jedi and sith have.
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>>98117658
>not posting the edit with satine and "this is the future you chose"
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>>98117721
I like them having both/all the above. It's a whole culture. You know they're having fights just as stupid as we are
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will mandos be able to field ATSTs/RTs?
I'd love to paint one up but I have a hard time justifying mini purchases if they're just gonna sit on a shelf
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>>98118271
Logically at least, they should. It's just a common military vehicle of the time, who's to say a group of mandos couldn't raid a military depot and make of with a few small walkers?
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It's okay to like cool things, anons, never forget it.
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>>98118411
I want a bombad Gungan series about the warring tribes eventually being united by the first true Boss, filled with cool land and sea battles. Then just chilling with the Naboo when they arrive, even if they act stuck up towards them. Because Gungans are unironically cool.
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>>98118297
I think he meant in legion going off the future tense question
unless he's an ESL
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finally beat fallen order because the obi wan show killed any interest I had in star wars for a few years and shadow lord reignited it
I really thought taron malicos was gonna be eno cordova fallen to the dark side in his studies on dathomir but he was still a good character design
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>>98116455
>it 'feels' very Star Wars
Ehhhh, partially, it depends what you mean by that. If you just want to re-enact the movies with characters that are basically the cast of the movies, sure, it'll jangle those keys at you real hard and you'll have a great time. Some people are going to want something with a little more space for their own shit and IMO that's where WEGD6 shines, since it can do keyjangles if you like but it can also do fucking weird-ass "this adventure would have been a marmite-tier EU novel" stuff as well.

FFG is SWTOR, it's a well executed memberberryfest. WEGD6 is more like SWG, it lets you actually inhabit the *setting* rather than just the character archetypes.
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>>98117730
Lol, piss off Traviss.
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>>98119264
(you) tried
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mandos are best when depicted like in open season
with the chad mandos being honor bound heroes who take on merc work
and the evil mandos being braindead retards like the vizslas and montross and deathwatch who are retarded aimless raiders
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>>98110448
Not really, they're a case of concept being more interesting than the execution. Grysk should've been a regional threat, and not amped up as some massive galactic threat, when we know the rest of the franchise doesn't want much to do with Zahn's sandbox, save for Thrawn himself.
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>>98111154
Because sadly for Filoni shills, she was the most normal Mandalorian out there. Satine was a traitor and servant of the Republic, Maul was a foreigner. Bo-Katan in that arc was the only real Mandalorian leader.
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>>98118490
Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds
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>>98117658
>damn Mandalorians, they ruined Mandalore!
They're just a bunch of idiots that the Jedi have to bonk on the head every few thousand years. Remember that the greatest Mandalorian legend is of a Mando who became a Jedi, so much that they "gloriously reclaimed" his lightsaber from the Jedi (read: robbed a museum) and then turned it into King Arthur's sword in the stone and a symbol of great victory. Meanwhile the Jedi are scratching their heads being confused as fuck and wondering why the Mandos didn't just ask for the saber, it's not like the guy was still alive by then.
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>>98119628
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>>98119628
in the old republic era they were such a problem the jedi had to militarize and lie cheat and steal to even stand a chance
this is a cope post
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>>98117782
No one cares about Filoni's "work", sadly.
>>98117801
Yeah, I'd be shitting myself too if I saw Disneytrannies dilating so hard. So many trannies in one place is really sexual harassment, at this point. Given that trannies really want normal people to validate their fetish.
>>98117813
Pretty much every faction out there takes an L at some point to hype someone else up for the sake of plot. Pinning it on Mandalorians like they're the only one is retarded, and I don't even care for Mandalorians. Sith and Jedi easily job harder than their offshoots like Imperial Knights and Jensaarai.
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Apologize to Satine. She is the only non-retarded mandalorian ever.
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>>98119822
Nah, she's just as retarded but in the other direction. I'd argue it's worse retardation since pacifism is a shitty ideology that's just completely unachievable.
>Hey everyone, instead of trying to find a healthier and less war provoking way of expressing our martial culture, lets ditch violence entirely and be a bunch of bitches! Oh, I still keep my guards though, inside of my palace.
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>>98119654
Beskar gloves typed this post.
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>>98119654
>old republic era
You mean when they were the personal bitches of the Sith?
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>>98119859
This. Satine's life is one of the most unintentionally-based aesops in modern fiction, but she herself is a cunt.
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>>98119822
>>98119859
She felt very realistic in that she was an idealist that put retardation before realism, and suffered due to it. Many such cases, especially in Star Wars. (Though, it feels like the viewer was "supposed" to understand that her policies or way of thinking was unachievable)
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>>98119859
Mandalore still has a police force, they just didn't engage in war. It was a good system until a galaxy spanning crime syndicate run by (((sith))) targeted them.

That's a central premise of the prequels. Moral systems cannot be good unless they have robust ways to deal with bad faith actors. It implies that the New Republic would strive to better protect its people and not give in so easily to corruption.



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