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Simple and Clean Edition

TQ: Would you ever run a vanilla legendary creature like one of the Muraganda legends as a commander?
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Next person who posts in this thread is an elfsissy
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Never, I only run elves
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>>98112932
I ain't afraid of no namecalling dinosaur; but it seems I was a bit slow falling on the sword.
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Best food commander?
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>>98112883
If it was sufficiently funny, absolutely.

>>98112969
Based elfchad.
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>>98112883
Based. This is the thread.
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>>98112972
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>>98112980
This seems really bad actually
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>>98112982
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>>98112972
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>>98112988
Wayne Barlowe is one of the most influential artists no one has heard of
Defined the look of xenofauna since the millennium
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>>98112883
>TQ
Yes. Kalascion's three shot stat line is unironically a solid starting point for a cheap voltron commander.
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>>98113000
Checked, and he's great. I kind of wish I had a few dinosaurs to add. I might toss his iconic rex as Rotting Regisaur even though it's not at all a zombie.
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Any tips on building this deck? I'm particularly attached to the character
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>>98113059
Play big idiots and turn them sideways
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>>98113059
Hydras?
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>>98113059
Basic +1/+1 stompy with nu vorinclex and the plant wurm from eoe
Selesnya enchantress Yuna is a reanimator enchantress stompy deck if you want a different flavor of big beater
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>>98112883
LOOK AT THE WEBSITE, SEE THE POST (THE PART OF COMITTEE REMOVED) THE WIZARD COAST BRACKETSTEIN EDH CONTROLS! THE GAVIN VERHEY BROADCAST CHANNEL, THE MOTHERSHIP UPDATES! THE BRACKETSTEIN RULE 0 CONTROLS. THE GAMECHANGER SOCIAL CONTRACT CONTROLS! THE LATEST COMMANDER UPDATES TO CONTAIN ALL BRACKETSTEIN CONTROLS. EVEN IN LGS TABLES OF MENERY PEDIGREE PLAYGROUPS! VISIBLE UNIVERSES BEYOND, THE MASS LAND DESTRUCTION SOFTBAN LOOP!
NET DECKLISTS FOR YOURSELF.
THERE IS NO ESCAPE FROM THIS WORSE GANGSTER WOTC STATE, USING ALL OF THE DEADLY BRACKETSTEIN CONTROLS. IN 2025 PINKERTON GANGSTER UNIONBUSTERS BEAT ME BLOODY, DRAGGED ME IN CHAINS FROM MAGIC CON LAS VEGAS. SINCE THEN I HIDE IN FORCED DOCKSIDELESS POVERTY, ISOLATED ALONE IN THIS LOW DEADLY MIDRANGE OLD HOUSE.

THE BRAZEN, DEADLY GANGSTER PINKERTONS AND MIDRANGE PUPPET UNDERLINGS SPRAY ME WITH SNOWBALL LANDS DECKS FROM ULTIMATE GUARDS AND EVEN SATIN TOWERS, CROSSOVER ASSAULTS. EVEN IN TABLETOP SIMULATOR, WITH TREASURES, EVEN CLUES AND FOODS, EVEN DEADLY VALUE ENGINES, OR ARISTOCRAT SHOCK “DEATH TRIGGERS” EVEN SECRET LAIR PUSHED ACROSS FORMAT TRAJECTION OF UNIVERSES BEYOND CROSSOVER ITEMS, OR EVEN BLOODY FINISHER “DOING THE THING” TO SHUT ME UP FOREVER WITH A “MLD UNDEFENDABLE EXTERMINATION”, EVEN WITH TRAINED PARROTING BRACKET DEFENDERS, IN MAXIMUM SNOWBALL DEATHSTAR PRISON FOR WRITING THESE UNFORGIVABLE, TRUTHS. UNTIL MY “UNDEFENDABLE EXTERMINATION”, I, ANON E. MOUS, ESQUIRE, 314 E. MAIN STREET, WAUKESHA, WISCONSIN. I STAND ALONE AGAINST YOUR MAD DEADLY WORLD-WIDE CONSPIRATORIAL GANGSTER MARO TCG COMMUNISM WITH WALL TO WALL DEADLY GANGSTER PROTECTION, LIFE LONG SWORN CONSPIRATORS TOLARIAN INCORPORATED ORGANIZED CRIME, THE WIZARDS AND JUDGES, THE DEADLY SNEAK PARROTING PUPPET GANGSTERS USING ALL THE GANGSTER DEADLY BRACKETSTEIN CONTROLS!
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Thoughts?
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>>98113174
>63
>36
Perfection
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>>98113174
Why no thrumming stone?
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>>98113168
Now this is the type of schizoposting I can get behind.
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>>98113174
Bracket 1 does not get much better than this.
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>>98113196
This was the top google rezult
I can't read that shit
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>>98113208
It says 由你施放的咒语具有涟动4。(每当你施放咒语时,你可以展示你牌库顶的四张牌。你可以从所展示的牌中施放与之同名的咒语,且不需支付其法术力费用。将其余的牌置于你的牌库底。)
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>>98113196
Listen here you little shit. Once you start adding that shit it dilutes the purity. What next? Coat of arms, banner of kinship? Fuck that.
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Maha is cute!
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>>98113174
Excuse me?
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Now let's play a game called "posting art that doesn't suck"
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Todays mail day was a good day
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>>98113292
This is one of my favorites, too bad the card sucks.
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>>98113292
Ok
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Are you the other anon building The Destined Warrior?
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>>98113353
>>98113315
FUCK
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>>98113315
I fucking LOVE mail day
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>>98113330
I think WOTC does that on purpose. Puts good art on shitty cards just to try to get more people to want them.
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>>98113448
That artwork is on a garbage common. Meanwhile here is what they put on a mythic rare. Jesus Christ how horrifying.
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>>98113489
Forgot my image
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PURPLE MANA BROS

I know it's just butthole mana but imagine
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>>98112932
Redpill me on Etali. Is he too slow for B3?
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>>98113492
At least Archangel of Titties has other printings.
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>>98113514
It's okay in b3 the problem is that Gruul Etali is 10,000 times better
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>>98113353
>>98113360
Probably!
Behold, a 4!
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>>98113537
Yeah he's just too pricy for my taste and I'm pretty fatigued on green in general, feels like easy mode.
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>>98113514
Depends on the kind of B3 IMO. B3 runs the gamut of "CEDH with only 3 gamechangers" to "Constructed but with Ancient Tomb instead of a basic land."
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>>98113555
The B3 I'd be looking to build towards probably is a bit closer to the former, we basically expect people to attempt game-winning plays right on turn 7 and games don't usually go beyond turn 8.
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>>98113562
I'd think he's pretty damn slow then.
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>>98112972
There's no question
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>>98112972
NONE OF THESE
>>98112991
>>98113580
>>98112980
makes food for their friends, all awful chefs
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>>98113602
>french
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>>98113497
>6 different mana symbols
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRREEEEEEEEEE
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>>98113608
It's just this and gonna be gay Thanos shit. I need another drink.
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>>98113607
Voulez vous couchez avec moi, anon?
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>>98113619
Oh wait fuck this IS about the Marvel set, isn't it? Fuckin A, man.
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>>98113602
Ygra makes food OF his friends
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>>98113497
>20+ year old creature type
holy shit this small stuff makes me so hyped for some reason. anyone have an idea??
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>>98113497
You missed the best one:
>Exile all the cards from your hand
THE GLOW UP IS REAL
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>>98113645
it says 'subtype' without mentioning creature, im guessing World Enchantment or they finally figured out how to make Fortifications work
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>>98113656
ahhh fuck. well okay still hyped though
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>Ward – Get five poison counters
Oh my god I know this is gonna be monoblack or black/green at most but godDAMMIT my Skrelv deck is salivating at the thought of them doing something whacky and making it white
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>>98113656
it's probably Arcane, Future Sight is a bit under two decades ago, not over
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>>98113534
LILIANA NO!
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>>98113682
>5 mana single target removal
God I will never get over how bad trash commons used to be. Kinda shocked they even let it have instant speed
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Planeswalkers are the ultimate timmy fun card type so I'm building a deck around them using the thing.
>Sarkhan the Endless
>All my Planeswalkers are now creatures
>Protection Magic
I assume this would work, right? Along with any effects that let me move counters from one creature to another?
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>>98113739
yes it works, it just puts a shield counter on them, it won't keep them as creatures. it also won't stop them from being put in the gy when they hit zero loyalty.
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>>98113752
who the hell runs Spark Rupture
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>>98113656
It's going to be a Tower.
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>>98113779
Shit I'm thinking about it, never saw it before. I've had quite a few instances where my Guff deck had many walkers out and I played a boardwipe. Would've been easy full-swings
>my walkers are now creatures
>someone plays a boardwipe
>instant speed enchantment removal on my own Spark Rupture in response to make them not-creatures again
Would be pretty funny, senpai
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>>98113534
Loot took her breasts too huh
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I'm playing with some beginners. The problem is that the games take way too long, as they have to read and understand all the cards. And they are slow in general. Can you recommend some decklists or precons? Are the Bloomburrow precons good for that purpose?
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>98113824
The ones with the nonbinary characters failed. Curious.
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>>98113824
Build beginner decks yourself. Monocolor, $50 budget.
One of the legendary pride mates for white.
Krenko for red.
Jadar for black.
Elves in green.
Literally anything that says "whenever you cast an instant or sorcery" for blue.
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>>98113492
This one actually looks better from a technical art perspective.
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>>98112883
I'm content with this op as long as pds aka furfag doesn't have it
>TQ
Only yargle and multani which I do have a deck for
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>>98113860
>50 dollar budget
lol

just buy them the fucking commander starter decks from a couple of years ago. 50 dollar budget commander decks are a meme from a decade ago.
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>>98113824
Animated Army is a good deck and pretty straightforward to play. Family Matters is kind of janky because of the weird inclusions in the 99. I'm not really familiar with the other two decks.
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>>98113860
Yeah, that's a good idea too. The problem is always to build simple decks that somehow stay engaging. You play Krenko one or two times and you have seen everything.
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My question last thread got ruined by the melty, so here it is again:
What would (You) do to improve this deck? I have a few obvious cuts in Elixir of Immortality and City on Fire but I don't know what I should add in.

https://moxfield.com/decks/L8BjkFwhl06kQ-L2G3r-mw
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>>98113059
Walking Ballista/Freed From the Real combo
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>>98114061
>open deck list
>spot UB slop
>close the tab
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>>98114072
Guy who obsessively catalogues every UB card so he knows whether to be offended or not
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>>98114078
It's like half the thread's regulars. it's exhausting, sometimes
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>>98114072
wow you're so cool. Can I have your autograph
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>>98113497
What's this for? The upcoming Marvel set?
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>>98114267
Yep, the Maro teaser is out. Spoilers are next week iirc
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>>98114210
Why weren't cosmos monsters of kaldheim typed enchantment creature like the nyxborn of theros?
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>>98112972
Frodo and Sam. It helps that Abzan colors let you use pretty much every relevant Food support card and tons of lifegain synergy pieces.
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>>98113645
>>98113656
>>98113672
It's probably Lair, since lairs are a common trope in superhero stories. You know like Avengers Tower and villain secret lairs (pun unintended).
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>>98113691
But Anon, you gain a whopping 2 life if you have Spell Mastery, such an upside is worth the Mana!
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>>98114485
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>build a superfriends deck a couple years ago
>only got those cheap <$2 walkers cuz holy shit some of these are expensive, a lot where only 25-50cents
>forget about the deck cuz it was ass to play
>look up some of the planeswalkers, they're all going for $5-10 now
uhhhh...??? Why the hell is stuff like this guy $9? I feel like I should cash out cuz I'm sitting on almost $100 of these things, and a lot are foils
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>>98114534
In that Teyo's case, it's because he was only printed once in an expensive precon from Commander Masters. Planeswalkers in genersal tend to receive far less reprints than other types of spells.
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>>98114061
I answered it last thread, but here it is again

Play more lands. 36 is a minimum, not a maximum. I usually run 38. Mdfcs I count as half a land.
Cut
>cleric class
>pristine talisman
1 extra life isn't gunna do much. Your deck wants explosive lifegain, no incredmental with lots of little value triggers off of it, at least with how it's built now.
>Narset of the ancient way
Same as above, but more likely to be destroyed.
>lightning bolt
>enlightened ascetic
>crib swap
Bad removal
>anger
>wonder
No consistant way to get it in the bin. If you add more reckless impulse cards, you can keep it.

Basically just replace all of this with card draw. There's lots in jeskai.
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>>98114534
Sure you aren't thinking of this one?
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>>98114676
I have both. Both are sitting right in front of me
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>>98114534
>>98114676
Where is he now?
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>Howdy, pardner!
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>>98114768
yummy cum gutters
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>>98114683
SHE transitioned, nazi
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>>98114776
Where is she now?
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>>98113691
I put this in my cube of shame and my friends said it was too good for the cube of shame. Perhaps they’re right, it was next to cards like poison arrows.
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>>98113006
he cute
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>>98113006
>turn 1 Dark Ritual into Kalakscion
>MFW i have no face
INTERIOR CROCODILE ALLIGATOR; I DRIVE A CHEVROLET MOVIE THEATER
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>>98114072
>complaining about UB outside of your containment thread

Must be nice to go through life retarded
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>>98113006
kalakscion equip commander's plate
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>>98114683
There's lots of Planeswalkers whose status after MOM is still unkwown, not helped by the fact that for a while we only got one Planeswalker per set. They've since changed it to 2 Planeswalkers per set because there's less in-universe sets now though.
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It's fucked up that both elf planeswalkers were desparked. Not only is there no elf PW left, there's no monogreen one left unless Garruk's next card drops the black. But Tyvar will never walk in again to lay down some elf support. You hate to see it.
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>>98115047
They'll probably get printings in a Modern Horizons set or something, chill
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>>98115047
Tyvar literally got a card in DSK. He'll be back when we return to Kaldheim eventually. Call me when YOUR favorite planeswalker is stuck in an aborted storyline and in the competing for attention with a billion other Dominaria villains.
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>>98115059
Why didn't she just fuck Jared into submission?
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>>98115065
She doesn't give a fuck about Jared. For her, Jared is a bring-Dakkon-back-to-me machine. She'd no less fuck Dakkon then you'd fuck the bait you're putting at the end of a fishhook.
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>>98115059
I have a soft spot for her and Dominaria's other black planeswalker ladies.
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>>98115065
If you look closely you'll see everything below her upper torso is just tentacles so the only hole she has is probably a nightmarish beak
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>>98115047
Garruk's most recent card is mono-Green, and I think Vivien is still sparked
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>>98115059
The funny thing is that she was pretending to be the Archmage of the Tolarian Academy when we last saw her, and with the Phyrexian Invasion happening, it's unlikely anyone had time to worry about other possible infiltrators.

So she's likely STILL in that position. She's in CHARGE of the Tolarian Academy. She is in the position to mold the minds of wizards all over Dominaria, and also to beef with Strixhaven since the Tolarian Academy was explicitly a rival to it.
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>>98115047
Planeswalkers as a story concept were a mistake. Planeswalkers as a card type were a mistake. I wish they were both gone forever.
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>>98115075
>the only hole she has is probably a nightmarish beak
If anything that should make the submission fuck easier.
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>>98115089
>next Dominaria set we just get Dihada, Tolarian Headmaster
>Dihada: "I might be an evil wizard, but I am a DOMINARIAN evil wizard. No upjumped lizards are going to poach MY students. Screw Dakkon, these wimps need some crushing. THE GAME IS ON"
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>>98115075
Dihada is a shapeshifter. She has any number of type of holes she wants to have.
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>>98115089
The academies were purged of infiltrators after MOM and even before then Dihada had blown her cover. If she survived through everything she likely moved on.
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>>98112972
I've been meaning to build Mikey and Donny partners
>>98112980
Pizza face is a vehicles commander you fool
>>98113492
The only problems with this art is the dumb magic claw railgun and that the beautiful ebony goddess angel doesn't have her tits and thighs out. Otherwise it's an objectively well-rendered piece
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>>98115306
>Pizza face is a vehicles commander you fool
I don't know why I didn't think of this, thank you anon
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>>98115310
You're welcome fren, I hope it's fun. I couldn't get over them printing a card effect I was begging for on that absolute ugly bastard of a card
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so uh, anyone looking forward to the marvel set?
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>FLGS
>Pod of three about to start a game
>I ask to hop in; sure
>Oloro retard goes first, followed by cEDH Sisay (I played a few games with the guy before), Lathril doesn't get green until his semifinal turn so we'll forget he exists, and me with Alela.
>Land-go on the Oloro
>Sisay fetches into a dual and drops a Chrome Mox
>Rest of us land-go
>Sisay Enlightened Tutor fetches a Rhystic Study before his next turn
>Drooler Oloro: "I'm probably not going to pay the 1 ever." Means it.
>Sisay doesn't play it immediately; Noble Hierarch and Esper Sentinel instead
>Fast forward a few turns
>I have an Empyrean Eagle, Alela, Sword of the Meek, and one fairy out
>Retard Oloro has an Orcish Bowmaster. Attacked me and only me that game for no good reason earlier.
>Problem Sisay has his commander, Noble, Esper Sentinel, Rhystic, and some rocks out. And a couple duals for good measure. Oh, and a FUCKING WORLD TREE
>Lathril is here for the company at this point
>Windowlicker Oloro plays some creature, and like several times over the time skip did not pay the 1.
>Sisay draws a card
>"I'm going to ping that fairy for 1."
>Huh? There's an Esper Sentinel and Noble Hierarch right there.
>"I don't care. Your token's dead."
>It gets +1/+1 from the eagle.
>"Oh"
>Sisay takes his turn, drops a Badgermole Cub from World Tree, putting Pact of Negation on bottom
>Very obviously threatening to win on his next turn, but he doesn't have a Pact, and he's not too blue-heavy
>My turn comes around
>Swing the Fairy token at Oloro, Alela at Sisay
>No blocks
>Hatred on Alela
>Sisay is screwed
>Fat Dumbass Oloro: "Dispel"
>I'm too blindsided by this idiocy to be immediately angry
>Pick up my cards because I've had enough of this dickslobbering retard and Sisay is going to Cradle and Emiel
>Move to a new table
>Sisay pops off two turns later (Didn't need to)
>mfw overhear permavirgin Oloro complaining about it
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>>98115562
I think this anon didn't like the Oloro player
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>>98115554
Ward - Gain 5 poison counters is deranged, so no
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>>98115656
>"yeah Ward - 4 was a bit too extreme so we're gonna be more careful with the ability in the future"
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>>98115562
I'm really tired of these cedh lite faggots in my lgs, when I see one of them, I just don't play in that pod desu. Oldfags with thousands of dollars in cardboard in a casual setting is peak retardation.
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>>98115656
so will Atraxa take her spot back?
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>>98115731
I hope not. She doesn't deserve it after she was mean to Ixhel.
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>>98113292
>>98113330
Many such cases
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>>98115871
>Invisible Woman is just +1/+1 counters
>not Shroud or Phase
lame as fuck lmao
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>>98115833
>healed
That's a new word for Magic, which obviously means removing all marked damage on a creature. I'm intrigued about what else they'll do with it.
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>>98115896
Invisible woman is the wall, dumbass
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>>98116000
>Thing is +1/+1 counters
that's even dumber!
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>>98115843
Wow, we are reaching old fogey levels of fucking skill text here.
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>>98115730
I don't care too much about cEDH pods. With that shop there's a few people that play it dedicated and I can keep up with them if there's no bullshit.
What I can't stand is some asswipe kingmaking a cEDH player that shouldn't need the help without even a plan to win the game himself. All the more worse since that pod wasn't competitive outside of the one guy.
Magic's an inclusive game; if you want to suck someone's cock that badly you can just ask.
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>>98115833
I really hate the way this is templated. Really oven of in vibes.
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>>98115843
This is perfect for Indominus Rex
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>>98115833
>Healed
>Awkward replacement text
Worded like someone's custom card
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>>98115843
In portuguese, he is called "Assa-simian"
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>>98116065
>literally buttmonkey
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>>98115833
So if two 3/3s block him, he dies, right?
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Is Badgermole Cub not good in commander? ChatGPT seems to dislike it when I have it review my deck for some reason
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>>98115916
They'll probably use it for more future inevitable Wolverine cards and other Marvel characters with a healing factor like Sabretooth, X-23, or Daken.
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>>98116026
>Strong guy does the thing that makes creatures stronger
It makes sense to me.
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>>98116113
Never ever listen to ChatGPT when it comes to Magic. The game is too complex for AI to "understand" how it works.
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>>98116113
>Using chatgpt to review your deck
????
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>>98115833
>healed
regenerate back on the menu soon?
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>>98115896
>rubber man... draws cards because he's a scientist
the commander cards kind of suck ass flavorwise
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>>98116205
Doubt it. They moved away from it in favor of indestructible+tapping. Regenerate was always a needlessly convoluted mechanic that didn't work very well flavorwise anyway.
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>>98116205
I doubt it, they just wanted a flavorful way to depict Wolverine's healing factor. For everything else, Indestructible or "creature dies, then comes back" is simpler.
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>>98116113
how many mana dorks do you run?
regardless, don't use AI for shit like that
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>>98115656
Strictly worse than hexproof
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>>98112883
>TQ: Would you ever run a vanilla legendary creature like one of the Muraganda legends as a commander?

I already do, giant tribal
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>>98116094
Yes, since the damage will be dealt simultaneously. But a 3/3 with double strike will not kill him.
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>>98116297
It's functionally the same outside of can't-be-countered edge cases
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>>98112883
If I were to build a vanilla commander I'd build this guy because he is simply cool as fuck to me.
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>>98113904
hell fucking no
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>>98116479
Everything about this card doesn't even feel like it's from the same game anymore.
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1. Redcaps are your favorite flavor of goblin.
2. Grumgully, the Generous is your ideal commander.
3. Seriously, you need more?
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>>98116854
>redcap
>not wearing a red cap
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>>98116841
It's a quaint card to be sure.
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The magic is gone
anyway Im building Crosis
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>>98116819
They really should have gotten Smith to draw some Kamigawa or Tarkir back when those were fresh.

https://adrian-smith.artstation.com/albums/1298277
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>>98116113
this must be the most midwit post I've seen this year. great job!
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>>98116113
Everyone's saying that ChatGPT is stupid, but it could unironically be correct if the rest of your ramp package is land ramp with no artifacts or dorks.
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>>98116940
I only build predh decks these days so I can be reminded of better times while I lose every game.
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>>98116981
based, whatcha working with currently?
Also who are you losing to? I roll up to LGSs with utter dogshit and still manage to win about 1/4 games.
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Is there any tribe you wish got more support? Pic related, I'm not asking for much, just one legendary Lhurgoyf shouldn't be an unreasonably tall request.
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>>98116997
It's incredibly sad how stupid the new crop of players are
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>>98116997
angles
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>>98117006
no bully
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Get ready for Hatsune Miku secret lair commander deck

https://www.ebay.com/itm/366436177336
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>>98116995
I recently put a jor kadeen deck together because I love mirrodin. It's just a bunch of creatures with keywords that can carry equipment competently. I've mostly been playing it with my regular group and it gets some kills in here and there but it's hard to close out games.
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>>98116997
Angels
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>>98116997
Viashino, in that I wish it still existed ;-;
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>>98117077
shut up, bitch. Here's a villain/doctor/hero/symbiote so be happy
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>>98116997
Skeletons
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>>98116819
Consider reducing your filesizes these are unreadably large on desktop
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>>98117169
Oh shoot, I could actually reduce them. I need them high resolution for printing I think, but definitely not so big for just posting here.
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>>98117189
>centered text
agh my autism
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>>98115833
>>98115843
>>98115871
>Marvel
Unironically who gives a shit anymore.
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>>98116854
I dislike anything with an effect that specifically excludes humans so while I enjoy RG and goblins I would not run him.
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>>98116997
oppai tribal
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I miss Chippy.
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>>98117233
Marvel in 2026 really does feel archaic.
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>>98117307
>>98117233
You have to remember that the people who run magic are real life basedjacks and always have been
Shit should've been called Dweebs of the Coast like actually
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>>98113626
Cool art, I like both desu. I can understand why they didn't want to bring back this one.
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>>98117361
They've really toned the gore down over time.
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>>98116997
We demand more archons.
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Would you guys be in favour of no ban lists now with all the tier system shit?
I would like to have Paradox Engine in my Derevi deck, but I'm not even close to being a cedh dweeb. I just really want that card in my deck
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>>98117364
Fun fact: there are no mtg cards named Disgust
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>>98117531
I want the banlist to be expanded, actually
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>>98117501
Well that's stupid.
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>>98117548
That's called bracket 2
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>>98117553
Ah fuck >>98117537
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>>98117548
>>98117554
That's pretty much why the banlist as a whole is up for debate. Banned cards could maybe have their own ranking?
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>>98116997
I started playing during Kamigawa and the first deck I tried to build from booster packs was an Ogre tribal because, i. my opinion, they had some of the coolest illustrations of the entire block. Predictably, it was unplayable garbage. At the time, I had no idea that an Ogre precon came out with Traitors of Kamigawa, but judging from the decklist, that too was unplayable garbage. Anyway, 20ish years later and Ogre still has no tribal support whatsoever
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>>98117554
CEDH needs more aggressive bannings than any other "bracket," but to your point, if brackets were actually to work as intended, each bracket would need explicit banlists. Stop trying to tell me your Winota deck is bracket 2, we all know you're lying.
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>>98117587
I don't like cedh as I think it is fundamentally not what commander is about or functions as, but why do you think it needs aggressive bannings? Isn't the whole idea about cedh to let all the autists go balls to the walls with everything they've got?
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>>98117587
Rhystic will never be banned because it's the only reason why decks can still be "midrange" and are not all turbo
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>>98117606
because eternal formats need regular banlist updates so things don't stagnate. While it's less necessary for "casual" EDH due to the somewhat self-policing nature of the playerbase, the CEDH meta has practically calcified.
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>>98117639
If stagnation is your only concern unbannings will do the trick + help wotc's bottom line
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>>98117651
unbannings won't do shit to the CEDH meta, Thoracle isn't going to suddenly be dethroned because Iona or Prime Time can be irrelevant in the 99
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>>98116997
Im hesitant on asking for tribal support because once they finally get it, it's not going to get any support for a while. I still have Sidar Jabari as a Knight commander, but I would of rather had Mardu so I had to settle for some alternatives in addition to Sidar.
I would like to see a Temur or Naya Beast deck one day. It would be harder for Naya because Dinosaurs pretty much occupy that space of "bid midrange creatures that do everything".
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>>98117661
Huh?
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>>98117674
Dockside's banning barely changed the CEDH meta
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>>98117587
They should replace brackets with ones based on monetary value. If you spent a similar amount of money on your deck we can play, if not fuck off. I'm tired of retards pubstomping precons at the LGS with their eldrazi deck that they've been investing in since 2019.

>inb4 "what about (insert meme budget deck that can sometimes win)"
Obviously it's not a perfect system and there are fluctuations, but don't tell me that a $100 deck is even remotely comparable to a $600 one, there's a reason why some cards cost how much they do and it's not only availability
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>>98117685
So why is it banned again?
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>>98117691
that doesn't work in the collector/speculator hell WOTC has created

brackets should actually be based on landbases
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>>98117691
Yeah i dont think you should be playing memes like chaos or mill vs randoms
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>>98117695
its effects on regular EDH, which is all the RC ever concerned themselves with
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>>98117691
You realize those "fluctuations" are exactly what makes Penny Dreadful such a volatile format and why Pauper is now expensive as shit, right? Nobody will want to play a format where new decks become invalidated literally every time prices are rechecked.
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CEDH should be ignored or treated as its own thing.
All other cards should be given a score, and brackets have a score cap. Some combinations of cards should have a score multiplier/addition when in the same deck. So you might give Exquisite Blood and Sanguine Bond both a score of 0, but a score of 3 when they're both in the deck.
>But that's so complicated to make!
Yes. It's a complicated game.
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>>98117717
a more effective way to score stuff like that is infinite combos are worth a flat score, which decreases based on how many cards it needs to pull off. Then you don't need to score each individual permutation of however many infinites there are.
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>>98117715
Right and brackets are the solution where mean cards like rhystic are banned in bw, the bracket where 90+% of the community belong in
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>>98117733
B2* lol
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>>98117733
make b2 played again
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>>98117140
LCI was surprisingly generous in that respect
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>>98117769
>best skellington in LCI can't be used as a commander
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>>98113174
Pack rat?
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>Zhulodok precon is 270€
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Every card over $100 on its cheapest english printing should be automatically banned until the price falls.
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>>98117792
this but $50
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>>98117059
fake
it looks too cute
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>>98117769
the great mistake was a great mistake
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>>98117792
Wotc should just sell any box as print to order
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>>98113626
Timesplitters enjoyer?
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>>98117548
Each bracket should have its own ban list.
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>>98117792
based but 5 dollars
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>>98116997
I would have liked an actual fucking Kithkin commander in Lorwyn
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>>98117889
gaddock teeg already exists
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>>98117889
Brigid is fine
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>>98117913
Are you a retard?

>>98117937
And are you? Neither of these are tribal commanders. They are a commander that HAPPENS TO HAVE that creatue type. Might as well say we have skeleton support commanders.
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>>98117531
I don't use the bracket system. So, no. If they try to make moves to force the system then I'll simply sell my shit and go buy action figures.
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>>98117962
you sound gay
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>>98117962
People here *are* generally that retarded, yes. People are always posting this when I say I want a proper skeleton support commander
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>>98117733
Gavin already admitted he can't force people to use brackets and he doesn't want to try and destroy the game for those who choose not to.
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>>98117962
Brigid makes Kithkins, ergo she is a Kithkin commander. It's like saying Rhys isn't an elf commander.
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>>98117233
Majority of people.
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>>98117548
only if we can enforce a system that says no repeated effects, i want a true singleton format
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All tutors should be banned.
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>>98117989
this but all cards that require you to pay to attack
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>>98117989
Basic land tutors are fine. But otherwise yes
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>>98118006
wrong.
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>>98117989
>t. redcel
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>>98117989
So, fetches, evolving wildes, terramorphic expanse, etc?
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>>98118006
ESPECIALLY land tutors
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this guy fucks
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>>98118019
I'd argue he's a better Shorikai. The guy just does everything.
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>>98118019
His voice hurts my ears.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPoB-lDNqCk
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>>98118029
didn't realize he was a tranny
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>>98117810
>fake
I had to look at the artists twitter. The artstyle does check out.
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>>98118029
It's a card, just read it as whatever voice you want
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>>98118029
I liked it when he sounded like what a humanoid elephant would actually sound like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si8G0pR7zSI&t=65s
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>>98118016
yes, fuck your deck thinning
embrace slop brewing
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Anon's opponent cracked an evolving wilds on his end step one too many times and he lost it
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>>98117985
Their recent (Last couple years) box office numbers beg to differ.
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>>98118048
SHE'S TALKING ABOUT DINA
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>>98118061
>2 mana for a basic land that enters tapped?! REEEEE
>anyways I play Sol Ring and tap it for 2 to play Arcane Signet
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Is he right, uncs?
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>>98118090
he is based
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>>98117977
He cannot force brackets any more than he can enforce the london mulligan, if people want unlimited mulligans in their basements that's fine but they shouldnt be surprised they're given the side eye
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>>98118090
He is Canadian, so no
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>>98118051
>I just erased multiple deck archetypes...WITH MY STUPIDITY
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>>98118019
I found this deck really boring and stuck spinning its wheels for 10 turns.
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>>98118090
Ah so it's a "Please buy the IP set for a dying IP we paid a boatload to acquire at the peak of it's costliness" set.
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>>98118105
>LGS enforced brackets
mine don't. Sounds like yours sucks.
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>>98118163
Literally all you have to do is pack the deck with lots of ways to make cards leave your grave and Quint does the rest, it's that shrimple bro
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>>98118169
>Marvel
>dying

lmfao
This site is so out of touch at times.
>b-b-but...movies
All movies are down. The age of big box office was last decade.
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>>98118175
>all you have to do is swap 40 non-lands from the deck
I saw a video where a guy made the precon "super strong" and he swapped out almost half the deck.

It's another Yshtola situation.
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>>98118178
The comics are even more fucked than the movies
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>>98117962
>is a Kithkin, makes Kithkin tokens, has strong synergy with a low-to-the-ground tribe like Kithkin
>Uuuhhh it doesnt explicitly say kithkin get +2/+2 or something so its not a Kithkin commander!
Tribalfags really are braindead retards.
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Wizards screwed up and sent some guy on reddit an unnanounced Hatsune Miku commander deck in place of the goblin one he ordered. Unlike the Miku secret lairs, this one actually has art by Kei. That being said its going to be another secret lair commander deck drop that sells out in 10 minutes and then is sold on the aftermarket for 10x the price, so even as someone with 15 Miku figures in his room this is very difficult for me to care about.
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>>98118220
Yeah I don't care since it won't actuall be purchasable. I think a lot of people just ignore SLDs now because they aren't really obtainable outside of scalpers. It's not even FOMO anymore. You literally cannot buy it.
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>>98118220
Kind of a boring choice for a Miku reskin
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I just want my Mahō Gakuin Seishun Hakusho secret lair is that too much to ask?
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>>98118233
then buy it from a scalper.
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>>98118236
I already bought it but it was delayed
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>One of the most popular IPs in Japan
>Ten of thousands of songs
>Ten of thousands on fanart
>Manga
>Anime
>games
>Even been used as a Voice Actress
>WOTC refuses to give her a mechanically unique cards and instead gives her 30 reskins on 75 cent cards
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU DEATH TO WOTC! DEATH TO HASBRO! DEATH TO MARK NOSEWATER!
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I wanna build a silly lil unblockable guys deck, should I build Gonti or Breena? Or should I just build Raffine and put both of them in the 99?
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>>98118338
Build this instead.
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>>98118338
Well one is an Aetherdrift card and the other is ugly so you should probably just build Raffine
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>>98118351
What on Earth? They printed cephalids again and they look nothing like the original ones? Are there more of these from that plane?
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>>98118351
Was thinking of Kamiz, but I feel like she just leans more towards building an infect deck more than anything. I also want to benefit from having lots of lil unblockable guys not just a few.
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>>98118048
Nigga what the fuck are you talking about
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>>98117674
This is Jew erasure. WotC is being extremely antisemetic with this.
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>>98118220
You need to grow up
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>>98118400
Trying too hard
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>>98118405
What a mysterious post
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>>98118410
You just admitted to having 15 little girl baby dolls in your room brother. That is NOT cool
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>>98118405
posted in the fantasy trading card game joke subformat thread on a chinese cartoom forum
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>>98118405
>>98118416
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>>98118319
>Caring about some anime bitch on mtg cards
Are WoTC actually based for shitting on weebs like this faggot?
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>>98118172
>his pod enforced the commander banlist
I play contract from below and i tell people ante is just another exile zone, looks like your pod lacks imagination
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>>98118338
breena is a cutie
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So are the links coming back in the next OP or are we done letting that sperg putting furry porn in them?
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>>98118319
Miku's lore (lol) doesnt warrant a mechanically unique card
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>>98118469
Why are (You) even asking this when (You) are the one that will spam the thread if (You) don't get to make it?
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>>98118469
>>98118478
for the love of Jehovah Jireh shut the hell up about it
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Breena's problems:
>First of all you must assume your opponents will never give you favorable attacks, so you're only generating value off her from your own attacks.
>You must assume that you have opponents at unequal life totals
>You must assume that you have more than one opponent (Breena is a 1/3 flyer with no other text against one opponent)
>You must assume you can attack two opponents favorably every turn
Honestly she's a lot of setup
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>>98112972
I've been making something low power with Elanor Gardner, but the right answer is probably something like The Cabbage Merchant.
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>>98118503
Yeah, it's why I'm leaning more towards Gonti, Night Minister or Raffine.
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>>98118423
I think it's funny that this is such an iconic reaction image cause I wouldn't expect an average 4chan user to be into Scrubs
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>>98118469
Maybe if you stopped being such an obsessed faggot about irrelevant shit anons wouldn't make threads just to trigger you.
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>>98118520
Early season Scrubs was based.
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>plays this on turn 4
Your response ?
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>>98117705
>>98117716
While fluctuations do happen, commander being a singleton format means that the variance will be marginal, or at least severely dampened: if 1 card out of 100 shoots up in value, it shouldn't push you out of a "bracket" with a $100ish range, except in extreme cases. Also, I would argue that the way the secondary market works, card values are tied almost entirely to banlists, which already do change and force people to upgrade decks anyway.

As I said, it's not a perfect system, but I think it runs circle around the current bullshit we have. Here's why it will never ever be implemented officially:
1. Using real monetary quantifier would remind people of how much they actually spent and , according to every behavioural economic theory out there, that will drive sales down
2. People could be uncomfortable sharing how much they actually whaled out on a deck, and it could create situations in which being beaten by a cheaper deck makes a player reconsider how much of an impact those extra $ spent on a staple really had. Again, this would result in less purchases

Specifically because of these reasons, the health of the game would improve in the long run, as players become more considerate about deckbuilding and what to cut/include. Cedh retards would experience no change (make a bracket called "unlimited where there is no upper limit"). Furthermore, with enough brackets, the inflation that we witnessed with pauper would simply not happen.

I think it's a good system for the players and by the players, but maybe I'm wrong. I am thinking of testing it in my playgroup of 20ish people to start with. If it works I might actually write down some proper rules
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>>98114477
absolutely, I picked it up recently because I've been so disappointed with production on my friend's decks.
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I wish 3dog was good because it's funny
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Brackets exist because MTG players are pussy faggots who can't say
>Yo, fuck Nadu, play something else or get outta here nigger.
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>>98118220
>reskin
Fucking trash. Hate these reskin shit. Just name a new card or don't bother.
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>>98118684
you're (almost) everything wrong with modern mtg
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>>98118684
Reskins are actually better and the way crossovers should be done. Mechanically unique ub are why they are so hated.
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>>98118680
NTA but the problem is specifically the monetary value. It feels really bad to tell someone who shows up with a new deck you know they spent money on they can't play it. If all cards were essentially free (decks <$20) then people would feel a lot more empowered to say that.
But if someone dumps $100 bucks on a deck, it feels shitty to tell them they can't use that $100 toy.
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>Hatsune Miku
>Not a single reskin is an Artifact creature
This is the worst part, she is an android.
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>>98118726
Hatsune Miku is real and strong and she's my friend
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>>98116997
Id like a new commander for sea creatures.

Kiora is boring cascade slop and Kenessos is interesting but requires too much topdeck manipulation/deck space. A newer commander would have some in-text way to scry.
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>>98116997
I wanna build a Zoraline bat tribal deck the problem is that there aren't actually that many decent Bat cards
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>>98118469
>first thread in literal months with zero shitposting
no, the links stay gone
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>>98118944
>>98118944
>>98118944
NEW
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>>98118949
little early there fella
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Looking for some feedback on this budget Sedris build. I think I've got card draw in order, good attacking creatures to help me bring life totals to zero, and ways to keep my Unearthed stuff, but I would appreciate any outside perspective.
https://moxfield.com/decks/WEwUJpiwp0CtXcDU-FJsAQ
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>>98117962
Get ready, here comes that annoying faggot who claims to be some amazing deckbuilder who builds around the tribal traits and that caring about your tribes keyword means ur bad
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>>98118520
90% of this site was not alive when this show ended

>>98118416
There's an entire fucking /toy/ board you tard
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>>98118455
I don't get what you're trying to do. But you've been doing this for like a year and a half now where you keep living in this fantasy land where everyone is forced to use brackets or "no one will play with you."
It's fine if you like the system but you literally lie to people to try and get them to buy in. It's old and you need a new troll.
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>>98118956
We must stop the furry porn at any cost.
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>>98113340
Based . Thats my playmat and favorite MTG art. In foil its absolutely glorious
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>>98118090
Hes a bit dramatic on his takes but hes basically the only MTG YouTuber i watch



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