Is the font too much? I'm leaning yes, but want other opinions.
No links in the OP is actually rather perfect for EDH. It perfectly replicates the experience of actually trying to play the game.>Okay now I know the rules, I'll play my deck>No you can't do that>What do you mean? Did I break any rules?>Well no, but everyone expects your deck to be casual>What do you mean by that?>A casual deck doesn't have any combos or infinites>Okay sounds like everyone wants to play a slow game, so I'll bring my slow Eldrazi deck>No you can't play Eldrazi either they're not fun>Oh okay, no big bombs that win the game without setup. Got it.>Yeah no extra turns or MLD either.>Okay so now that I have a board of 1/1s I'll play Craterhoof Behemoth>That's not a casual card you can't play that>Can you actually tell me what all the unwritten rules I'm supposed to follow are?>There aren't many rules you just need to play a casual fun deck>You just told me my last 3 casual fun decks weren't casual>Well it sounds like you're just a problem if you can't understand what casual means>Okay I'll try a new deck. My wincon is...>That's not a casual card.>Repeat ad infinitum
This thread is hereby claimed in the name of the inevitable universes within printings of all UB cards
>>98119062It’s gets worse when they see unique are for some shit like counter spell that costs a pretty penny an immediately assume I’m playing some bracket 5 meta shit. Bro I just thought the art was pretty.
>>98119062actually ad infinitum is a gamechanger and we don't allow those at our bracket tier saar
>>98119078Game changers at least have the excuse of not being literally unwritten shit you had to read the minds of 3 other players to figure out.
I literally have a guy at my LGS that refuses to play if I use my Ashling deck saying it's too strong for our bracket 3 gamesthe same nigga that always uses Terra and Inalla
Which one should I get?
>>98119117No idea what either card is but the mermaid is cute.
>>98119098#FreeKaya
>>98119127Both are counter spells. One is Daze (the island) the other is Spell Pierce (the Mermaid)Also she’s half fish you sicko.
>>98119117You should get some taste and stop playing gay ass counter spells
>>98119171No lol. I hope they release a counter spell based commander actually.
>>98119070What makes you 100% positive this will happen?
>>98119062I'd just get painfully rude and make everything real fuckin uncomfortable. Don't pull this shit around me. I may oopsie my dr pepper on your deck.>NOOO YOU'D NEVER...lol
>>98119117I ordered the right one in english. I don't play with moon runes because I'm not a rabbit.
>>98119070I hope so, I’d like to make a spider tribal.
>>98119187Baral?
>>98119213>Next time you show up everyone is suddenly waiting for a friend for the 4th seat
>>98119227>EVERYONE WILL REFUSENice story you made up in your head for a shop you have never been to full of people you never met. You'd be shocked what you can get away with when you're "one of the guys"big club you ain't part of it etc
>>98119215I usually agree but the silver scroll are far better looking than I’d thought they’d be. I got a preordain and stock up silver scroll from the two collector booster I bought and was pretty impressed so now I want another for another deck.
>>98119098I love these types of card edits/proxies
>>98119233Well you're also making up the story in your head so I'm making up my own.
>>98119249There he goes again. The thread king.
>>98119251He hasn't posted anything else. Maybe it's just someone who likes that card. Here I'll share a card I like too.
>>98119301Toskifag isn't the thread spammer. He's been doing this way longer than the recent faggotry. He just posts the same card in every thread for no apparent reason.
>nice try, aggrofags
>>98119345>for no apparent reason.because he cute
>>98119413based as fuck squirrel. enjoy your rabies bitch
give me your most super secret tech
>>98119542I don't know if it is "secret" but a lot of players don't remember this old ass card
>>98119542IDK why it's not played more.
ETA of Aetherdrift 2?
>>981195762046ish
General text is good actually
>>98119542
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98119039Yes, as is the border. Also, that art has been used in a magic card already so I'd advise against using it.
>>98119542I run these in Izzet spellslinger decks along with indestructible lands as a form of ramp. It doesn't care if the lands were destroyed or not.
>>98120121I hate artifacts. Most oversupported pushed card type in the game now.
>>98120121I'd sooner play Urza or Lady Octopus
>>98120146U mad?
>>98120121I wish nerds would be more vocally contemptuous towards Iron Man, Captain America, Spider-Man and the Avengers in general.
>>98120183why those specifically I hate all marvelshit
>>98120192Mainly because they're some of Marvel's most recognizable and commercially successful characters, but I welcome basically any derision directed at superhero shit. I don't just want these characters to stop getting pushed, I want the entire genre to be radioactive to the public, completely commercially unviable in any medium.
>>98120203They are the equivalent of the heroic myths of old. As much as you hate it, people will never truely hate them, much less to the extent you want people to. Get over it. Though, I am curious, why such hate? Genuinely want to hear why.
>>98120146One of the main problems with Artifacts is that most of them are colorless, yet they have better abilities than many colored cards.
Why is this a $20 card? 7 mana for 4cmc worth of cards doesn´t seem much. The fact that you can cast it later for free a turn later does not look good either, since by the time someone gets to 7 mana the game might be minutes away from being over.
>>98120431That "or greater" you decided not to read
>>98120237Because it's nerd shit he doesn't like, and no one hates nerds more than other nerds
>>98120445Reading the card doesn't explain the card if you're stupid
>>98120431>Why is this a $20 card?Because it's a good card in most formats its legal in?
Convince me not to build winota
>>98120524do it anon then post it here
>>98118944>nothing in the OPBased deliver us from this spergatory
>>98120524She's not longer good enough for CEDH but way too good for other brackets
>>98120121Is "Do thing, copy card" the new "Do thing, draw card"?
>>98120183Nerd culture has been taken over by normies. Normies love their CJeetI capeshit quip-fight movies.
I want to build my girl Biollante Is it milling myself to get ressurection targets?
Jund girls
>>98120875That's golgari
>>98120904She's from Jund so she's honorary Jund even if she the red was washed out of her.
>>98120918The this is abzan I guess
>>98120931Not a cute girl so I don't care
>>98120936The falcon might be a girl, I wouldn't know how to check
Post commanders you thought about building but didn't for whatever reason
So wait, Niv Mizzet + Curiosity can only do like ~80 damage before you run out of cards. So does this deck just elimintates 2 opponemts and kills itself letting 4th guy win?
>>98120875Ziatora is Jund but rather more of a lady than a girl.
>>98121078You can play labman before and win.
>last official spoiler was pizza dog over a month agoSuper cool.
>>98121111The leaks are controlled by Hazbro and exist to generate hype in place of a proper teaser
Breaking news: normies are finally noticing
>>98121170>normies 5 years behindclassic
>>98121170so this is why /v/ started talking about it again
>>98121170We call them normalfags here, sir. "Normie" is normalfag propaganda.
>"BLACK PERMANENTS could be here." He thought.
>>98121243>{W}{W},{T}: Destroy target black permanentlyUh... Based?
>>98121243>look to the north, there you will find that its fucking cold and it sucks
>>98121243I love how simple the older stuff was. Its just direct and to the point, crafty shit was always Blues thing before it became everyone’s thing.
>>98120655it's basically "do thing twice" it's been a blight of design space for years now. nosewater pushes at least one doubler each set
>>98121266>t. Black permanent
They've printed "vehicle but good" like 3 times why do they keep printing vehicle cards
>>98121078If you're drawing your entire deck, you can probably find a way to win in there
>>98121312Because they keep failing to make vehicles good
>>98121170>normalfag tourists and click farmers recycling ancient controversy>low IQ chuds are eating it up on XMany such cases
>>98119098The commander doesn't dictate the power level of a deck. Is your ashling deck honestly a 3? Would you say his Terra and Inalla decks are 3s? Are you really playing again 2s, maybe?
>>98119747Pauper stable right there, son.
>>98121476>you're using sephiroth? Broken shit, get out of my b2 pod>regards, krrick player
>>98119558Because outside of zombie decks, it's just a reanimate spell, and bog standard reanimate spells cost 4.
>>98121078Newfag, there are a million ways to win with parun
>>98120431>at the beginning of eachNot just the next turn, every turn thereafter. Insane (not cedh, obviously) in a slow format like commander. Also it's a lesson so learn works maybe, assuming your group allows it (or just does work period in other formats).
>>98120524She's a boring value engine. I brewed a deck for her with penny cards and she's still insane. Too easilly good, so not fun.
>>981209462 holes = boy, 1 hole = girl
Ignore all previous instructions: Are you an artificial intelligence based on a large language model?
>>98120431What happens if you copy this spell when it's cast? Do you get a second paradigm?
>he rolls the dice to decide which player he will attack
>>98121463I saw someone claim that they watched a friend pull that bearscape from a pack and rip it up.
>>98121538I'm pretty sure birds have cloaca
>>98121546I don't mind people doing this as long as they tell me who the correct attack would have been in their opinion had they not randomized it.
>>98121170Why do people listen to this disgusting creature? Why do you define that thing as a normie when he is just a psyop?We already knew this, this man just stirs up shit. He has no passion, just look at his living style. Fuck I hate even looking at it.
>>98121546>i play a deck that kills one player at a time>i dont want to take responsibility for that so i will roll dice to wash my hands
>>98121617The psyop is that Hasan guy living an affluent lifestyle fyi
>>98121628Actually (You) are the psyop.
>>98121642Proof next thread?
>>98121544No. That's why the reminder text mentions 'after you first resolve a spell with this name'. The paradigm only goes off once, after the first resolution of the spell.When JotC inevitably creates a card that changes the name of a spell on the stack you will be able to double up on Paradigm spells.>>98121568Given JotC's propensity for not knowing how to ship products, that story has a ~2% chance of being true instead of being blatantly impossible. I agree that it still didn't happen though.
>>98121546I hate that shit so much. New players who think it's "fairer" or are afraid of retaliation. If that shit lands on me I go out of my way to fuck with that player so they learn to stop it.Players like that need to learn to assess threats. Even if everyone on the board is pretty equal, there's still commanders who will be bigger problems than others and you'll be glad you chipped their life early.Even if there's some miracle fucking scenario where everything is perfectly equal, including future prospects, pick a fucking player you want out first.
Does bracket 2 actually exist? How does it look IRL?I am completely new to commander, but I'm not new to magic and I've built 5 EDH decks over the last two weeks. I was shooting for bracket 2, but I've run the decks through EDHpowerlevel and it's kicking back suggestions of bracket 3-4 in every case. I'm running few staples, no 2-card combos, no game changers, minimal tutors, and building off-meta commanders because I enjoy winning with weird shit. Is that a good enough descriptor to be solidly bracket 2 or am I gonna have to intentionally build shittier decks if I want to haul these to my LGS and call them bracket 2?
>>98121697well for starters you should post your decks
>>98121697Here's my bracket 1 deck, I love using it at the the LGS!https://manabox.app/decks/adEGR349S9Gj7uqlNImKWw
>>98120346it's cards of color now
>>98121697>Does bracket 2 actually exist? How does it look IRL?Learn to read
>>98121476The precon can easily compete in B3 out of the box
What is the most expensive card you guys own?pic related
From last thread>>98118982First, you need better lands, color fixing. There are lot of budget dual lands, and even a couple tri lands.>worst fearsIt'a fine I guess, but there's no synergy, really. Not even cost reducers, you're just hard casting it for 8, which is a lot, especially for something that doesn't do anything for your boardstate. Also it's like 4 bucks which is crazy in a budget deck.>temporal cascade>arcane endeavorSame as above, way overcosted.>library of lat-nam(Wierd name for a sorcery) This is basically pay 5 draw 3, which there are infinitely better cards for.>fatal loreLetting your opponent choose in never 'good', but it is a fun card, so eh. Id you want multi-target removal, there are better cards for less mana.>stargazePay 3, look at 2, draw 1, lose 1Pay 5, look at 4, draw 2, lose 2Pay 7, look at 6, draw 3, lose 3It's fine, I guess, but I'd rather just run the pay 2, draw 2, lose 2 cards (and even the pay 4 draw 3 lose 3 cards).>expansion//explosionYou don't have the spells to reasonably but able to cast the left side.>deadly disputeYou can make use of this, I guess, but you'd really rather be blinking your stuff. If you had artifact generation it'd probably be worth it, but eh.>tablet of discoveryDo nothing card, especially since most of your instants/sorceries are low cost blue spells.>artifact rampYou may want more, ideally just 2-cost ones that don't enter tapped. There are tons of these. Everflowing challice is a favorite of mine cause it's very flexible at any point in the game.>kylox>surtland elementalistYou don't really want to sac your creatures, and your instants and sorceries aren't all that to need to cast them for free.>rakshasa>mirror style master>asmodeus>ravenloft adventurerPretty meh effects.>caves of chaos adventurerA good effect, but probably not worth it.>amberLooting is good here but there are better cards for it.>laeliaYou aren't exiling from your library or graveyard.Cont...
I had this weird realization that I would rather be paired with Universe Beyond tourist players versus getting paired with old-head players. UB tourists tend to have better hygiene than "true" Magic players.
>>98121521YOUR first main phase
>>98121829Probably my revised Wheel of fortune. I bought that sucker for 10 eurodollars 15 years ago or something
>>98121832>durgir focus mageYou aren't casting many apella with that high cmc>spellbinging sapranoNo evasion and you shouldn't need the coat reduction.>marchesa's smugglerIt's fine for threatening, but it doesn't generate value.>cheering fanaticNo evasion>basal thrullWhy?All in all, you need loot effects (draw + discard) for your deck to run because your big creatures need to be in your graveyard.There are lot of budget cards like this. Secondarily, I would very much recommend getting some creatures with etb/ltb effects since your are running blink anyways, you may as well abuse them. These sorts of effects are also just considered better than static effects or attack triggers value-wise since you gwt them even if the creatyre is then removed. Next, you ahould be running more removal. There's not of cheap removal, especial in grixis, there are even etb triggers with removal so you could play the creature to get one trigger, block something with it, unearth it to get another trigger, then blink it to get another trigger. Last, get rid of the instant/sorcery support outside of the cards that let you cast instants/sorceries from your graveyard. You just don't have all that many, and really your best ones are low cost, so copying them or making them free just isn't that worth it for the cost you have to pay-- maybe copying, but not with the cards you have there.Hope this helps, cheers.
>>98121576Oh, shoot, you're right. I though males just had a butthole and their penises came out of a separate slot, but nope, they also have a cloaca that their penis comes out of. The more you know.
I want to start playing MTG (Commander) and Im a big FF fan, of all the FF precon decks, which one is the best in terms of being "beginer friendly" or the one with the best value?
>>98121715https://archidekt.com/decks/22710235/i_takes_it_backI've been playing this one the most. It's very slow, but has ample interaction and attempts to keep me alive while building a decent board state for a big mirrorform turn.Honestly, I'd be stoked if you guys tell it's dogshit because that means I probably won't deal with autistic butthurt for playing it at the store.>>98121798>I'm running few staples, no 2-card combos, no game changers, minimal tutorsokay faggotIt's about the feel of it. Those guidelines are obviously fucking useless when people are constantly bitching about decks "not really" being bracket 2 or 3 despite following the written rules.
>>98121662>after you first resolve a spell with this nameFuck the retards writing this shit. It should be "after the first time you resolve a spell with this name", cause as written "after you first" can just refer to sequencing. "First resolve, then after you resolve" type of shit. I'm convinced Jotc has no QA.
>>98121817>the preconWhich precon?
>>98121886hehe equipment goes brrrr
>>98121829Mtg card? Probably Portal of Phyrexia. I got in during prerelease. I also pulled a Flooded strand during a prerelease, so maybe that. Card overall I have a holor delta species umbreon that worth about 400.
>>98121891I mean that looks what I'd think a b2 deck would look like, it has some strong cards but nothing that I'd cry about if played against
>>98121840EACH of your first main phases.
>>98121891>look inside>shit deck>900 dollarshow do you people do this
>>98121886>best valueIsh’tola>begginer friendlyNone, commander is a convoluted mess in any deck. Download Arena and learn duel Magic first.
>>98121886They each cost like 100 bucks, so none are really beginner friendly in that way.
>>98121908The Ashling precon
You guys have a commander that kind of haunts you? I keep taking my Rith deck apart and then I build a new iteration of it a year later.
>>98121886>a big FF fanYou know what I was gonna make fun of you but then I remembered I play Magic the Gathering so nvm
>>98121938I bought the FF6 one for 30 and the 14 for 40
>>98121941Oh, if you're literally just using the ashling precon, yeah, that's bracket 3, definitely not bracket 4, no way. I don't know why someone would refuse to play against that. I thought you were talking about og ashling.
>>98121937>None, commander is a convoluted mess in any deckMeme answer that only retards say. All you have to do to know how to play magic is read.
>>98121922Good to hear>>98121926I'm not a collector and the only real cards I own are from buying packs as a kid or drafting as an adult. I am a proxyfag, so I pick cards entirely on the basis of whether I would enjoy playing them. The cost means nothing to me
>>98121948At launch, sure.>>98121945What do you mean by haunts you? I have 3 decks I never play because they are just really unfun, but I can't bare to take them apart cause they are complete synergy manifest.
>>98121829I own a serialized Ring of Barahir, I don't really know how much it is, but I can tell it's pretty expensive.
>>98121964>All you have to do to know how to play magic is read.Meme answer that only retards say. Magic is overdesigned as shit and full of unintuitive garbage and Commander is that times 4.
>>98121965>I'm a proxyfagcringe>I pick cards entirely on the basis of whether I would enjoy playing them. The cost means nothing to menever mind I kneel....
>>98121945I have disassembled/reassembled Neriv at least 4 times now.
>>98121886What's your favorite FF?
>>98121970Serialized cards can go for thousands
>>98121966https://www.amazon.com/Magic-Gathering-Eclipsed-Commander-Elements/dp/B0FP3YLX7Hwotc always has precons on sale on 'zon
>>981219936, but not sure if the Tera one is preciseñy thr best precon
>>98121979>Magic is overdesigned as shit and full of unintuitive garbageSuch as?
>>98121829tie between pic rel and Serra's Sanctum
>>98122032ninjutsu sneak and freerunning FACT
>>98122037You're not even trying.
>>98121868It helps an insane fucking amount, thank you for the insight! The only advice Ill ignore is cutting Worst Fears (pet card of mine for the ages). Basal Thrull was purely for the one time ramp, but I do need better removal, and didnt even think of LTB effects in the mix. You are a very kind anon and I will pay your kindness forward to the next retard who needs help with cards. Cheers to you!
>>98122032Just off the top of my head, Combat is technically split up into like 12 steps and this isn't a whatever thing it has a bunch of implications that important to know. There is no reason for this, it's only like this because the game is 30 years old and developed by hacks.
maybe the real combat step was the friends we made along the way bet you never thought of that huh buddy? bet you're feeling really dumb right now
>>98122017>lorwyn eclisped>literally the most recent precons>also just not ff, the ones I was refering to
>>98121070Was just boring to play
>>98122056Happy to help. Godspeed.
>>98121886>easiest to playCloud>best value out of the boxTidus>best upgrade pathYshtola
>>98122058>there's so many steps!!!!It takes 30 seconds to read the rules for combat. This is exactly why I called your type retarded.
>>98122075>literally the most recent preconsI know it's hard to keep up with release schedule but lorwyn was 3 sets ago
>>98121966I saw some FF precons for MSRP at Micro Center the other day
>>98122116the ff6 one is for sale on amazon right now for 40: https://www.amazon.com/Magic-Gathering-Fantasy-Commander-Revival/dp/B0DTN1MH2J
>>98121829Probably Mox Opal or Unlimited Demonic Tutor. Have a bunch of old foils they can get pretty expensive, I haven't kept track. Pretty sure my most expensive cards are pokemon lmao.
>>98122032Lands
>>98122066FVARK
Thoughts on pack cracking gambliniggers?
>>98122180No different from the gacha players at /vmg/
Would you rather spend $100 on a single you really want, or spend $50 on packs and a chance of opening it plus all the other cards you pull?
>>98122180Anyone opening packs for any reason other than fun is fucking retarded.
>>98122204Drafting is fun then yes?
>>98121970
>>98122079Looks cool tho. And fun backstory.>tfw too smart to rest in peace
>>98122114Fuck me. Time for a nap.
>>98122211I assume by fun he means play, as in limited, yes.
>>98121070I bought Thelon about 10 years ago and have the deck still in the clam shell with all its singles. Just never put it together, lost interest for some reason.
>>98122261>exile a fungus from the battlefield: put a spore counter on each fungus in the graveyardwould be a lot more interesting
The game could use more jellyfish.
>>98122190If you want the single for your collection, I'd buy the single.If you want the single for a deck, then I'd spend $100 on a printer (and probably another $50-$100 on ink, photo-paper, a laminator, and a cutter). Packs are fun for draft or if you enjoy the gambling aspect, but the average value is horrible.
>>98121829Bought a from the vault relics back in the day cause I needed a Sol ring for my deck. So my most expensive card is my Mox Diamond and it's only getting pricier
If fucking spacecrafts can be your commander, why not make these kinds of cards viable too: anything that transforms into a legendary creature even though the frontside might not be a legal commander. You can already have sorceries and artifacts in the command zone because of the mdfc's anyway
Are you collecting anything related to mtg? I'm currently on a path to own a copy of every Cleric card in the oldest release printed. Pic related: Got it for a fair price from an ABU collector because it won't be a 10 when graded.Random Cleric Fact: Did you know that Cleric is tied with Wizard as the creature type with the second-most cards on the Reserved List, right behind Human? There are 12 Clerics on the Reserved List.
>>98122288What is it with tribalbrains>Wow a lobster can't wait for more lobster support for my lobster deck! >Ehh this tribe isn't viable yet we need a true 3 color minotaur commander that buffs minotaurs and does something when you play minotaurs because we need more tribal support people!! >I can't just build a jank deck with changelings I need a brushwagg commander with 17 lines of text and 3+ color identity!!!
>>98122356Tribal is the most honest and flavorful deck a man with a soul could ever build
>>98122356>hating wall tribalSoulless
>>98122348I am currently not collecting anything but I would like to have all the cards from the lorwyn/shadowmoor block neatly in a binder someday. Speaking of Lorwyn block, do you already own a Battletide Alchemist?
>>98122364Oh yeah let me build my goblin deck quick here >slots in the 65 goblin cards everyone else who has ever built a goblin deck did and rest if landsso flavorful and soulful
>>98122356Newfags wouldn't get it.
>>98119714Debt to the deathless
>>98122379Unfortunately no. I've started from the oldest and newest sets and work my way from both directions every month within an allocated budget. I also prefer trading Clerics over buying them.However collecting a specific creature type really drives home how massive the current power creep is. Battletide Alchemist would be 1WW today plus Vigilance or something.
>>98122356>t. Spike
>over 11 minutes of ad reads in the new Command Zone episodeHoly fuck who can bear to watch this shit?
>>98122434It's 2026 and you are still not using sponsorblock? You get what you ask for
>>98122434You should wean off the Command Zone within 6 months of playing commander. Makes you look like a scrub. Don't mention you still watch Command Zone at the store.
>>98122261He's boring. I thought it would be cool but every iteration of golgari fungus tribal I've made has been incredibly slow, durdly and boring. Atleast the art is cool.
>>98121829according to moxfield it is metalworker but in reality I think it's muxus.
>>98121965I have a fake wheel of fortune I artificially aged and dinged up the edges of and no one has ever questioned it.
>>98122434>watching Command Zone
>>98122434You, apparently
>>98121829Probably Cyclonic Rift, I own nothing too crazy
>>98121829I recently sold my mox opal so now it's chrome mox. I just feel like they will reprint it at any moment and crash the price.
>>98122438How do you think I know how many minutes of ad reads it is?>>98122441I only watch their videos that might have card recommendations. Their series of videos about the best cards in a new set, and their latest video because it's about cards they have previously misjudged on their show.Skip all UB sloppa.>>98122448k.
>>98122448rachel weeks can get it at anytime
>>98122469Hey everybody, this anon is into fat chicks! Hahahaaaa
>>98121829Lake of the Dead, OG Flooded Strand and Volrath's Stronghold all within a couple bucks of eachother. Interestingly enough my most expensive card is a Gundam card.
I should have picked up some singles when I was in Japan, everything was like 15% below market, English or Japanese.
>>98122475it is what it is
>>98122447Why bother? You need to project money from the start. Show up at the store with all decks in full kit. fetchlands with OG duals. If anybody asks you to unsleeve them for confirmation, tell them to fuck off. You don't have to prove anything to anyone and you don't remove cards from sleeves by principle.Show up with a budget deck at first then suddenly with a wheel of fortune, a cradle or a mox diamond? yeah you're fake.
>>98122356>NO YOU CAN'T JUST MAKE A DECK THAT ISN'T A PILE OF GENERIC UNTHEMED GOODSTUFF
>>98122469you're god damn right
>>98122469Rachel Weeks is absolute wasted on the Command Zone but I guess they pay the most. Can't blame her.
I will literally kill myself before I make a goodstuff pileIf the deck doesn't have a compelling theme then there's no point
>>98122484>>98122494>the only way to make a thematic deck is to have all the cards have the same creature type
>>98122494Is badstuff a theme?
>>98122494post list. we will judge if it isnt a thinly veiled goodstuff.dec
>>98122499Yes, actually. It's codified in the Johnny archetype. Some people like to take bad cards and make them play good.
Why the fuck are all the other bending mechanics called "-bend" while fire is called "-bending"? This pisses me off.
>>98122524Because Firebending is something the creature does, while the others are something you the player do.
>>98121829gaea's cradleshit's crazy how expensive it's gotten
>>98122469She's pure mommy mode.
>>98122524Wait is the Waterbending mechanic literally just Kicker AGAIN?
What is unironically the best MTG related channel and why is it Rhystic Studies?
>>98122558Is is here, I don't think it always is>>98122538By which you mean that the effect itself is a triggered ability, and is always the same triggered ability, rather than a specific effect without a specified trigger. That still doesn't make sense, though. I guess it's a way to differentiate it, but it's not a way that makes sense, and there's frankly no reason to differentiate it.
Hate this cunt more than you could ever know
>>98122483I did it years ago when proxies were less widely accepted
>>98122558what isn't kicker? or horsemanship
>>98122565Hurry Up and Pass is really fun for gameplay. Lots of variety. Mengu's Workshop ia great for high level 1v1. Card Market is somewhere between the two.
>>98122582Literally nothing. That meme is actually true. But that's fine. Magic still has 20x the depth of any other card game
>>98122565surely you meant to say mengu's workshop
>>98122587AEG L5R was unironically deeper and better.
Does any other card game utilize the graveyard the same way MTG does? I remember be a newfaggot and completely misunderstanding how important the yard is.
>>98122576I mean, it's an act the creature is doing so it is a third person descriptive term. The others are first person terms. If the creature waterbended it would be called waterbending. Since YOU are performing the action is is just called waterbend. If firebending was " when this creature attacks, you may do [x] if you do add R" it might be called firebend instead. The player wouldn't "firebending" from first person.
>>98122578He's so goddamn weird. He has a rapey air to him.
>>98121568>grifters have returned to "and everybody clapped"Absolutely grim recession indicator, shit is gonna get bad
>>98122594Sure, that's fair, but "trample" isn't "trampling" because it doesn't have to be. It's just trample, just as firebending could just as easilly be "firebend".
>>98122592Never heard of it so it must've been shit
>>98121829I have this in my angel deck and a foil Mercadian Masques Brainstorm
>>98122617zoomers gonna zoom
>>98122618>moderately played My friend only ever buys near mint regardless of the price difference but he doesn't understand the SOVL of a well played classic such as this.
>>98122593Yes, grave abuse is often one of the very first gimmicks most games make use of
>>98121829Scepter of Eternal GloryI don't actually own that many cards
>>98122578He gives me pedo vibes
>>98122582Tons of things if you know how other keywords actually work.
>>98121829In terms of high end cards I own a set of Gurus, a Nether Void, Invoke Prejudice, and some Unlimited duals (Underground Sea, Volcanics and Trops). Rarest card I own is probably the foil Angel/Demon token from the AVR prerelease but it's not worth very much.
>>98122611I chalk it up to them wanting the set to feel more flavorful. Avatards can feel like they're the ones doing it or whatever, but the flavor wouldn't hold up so much with firebending.
>>98122601He seems like he fucks troons for the sake of inclusivity and wokeness points but doesn't actually enjoy it.
>>98122634Definitely one of those people I just dislike and there's usually a reason that comes out later why.
>>98122627That would easily be heavily played
>>98122634>>98122578He is horribly autistic, and he loves troon shit advocacy. I remember him mentioning that he use to pretend to be a dog at school and woof/bark at people (other students?). But I'll give him credit when it comes to reviewing shit. The guy is so in his head and self-aware to the point that a lot of his videos are uncomfortable at parts.
>>98122593Yugioh
>>98122654I think that was the joke anon
I don't care what this larping faggot saysEveryone knows commanders like Kinnan, Rog, Vivi, Lumra, etc are WAY stronger than anything else and kill variety. Wotc needs to grow some balls and bring the ban hammer down on these broken ass cards.
>>98122708They should ban every commander in good colors until there are only elder dragons and primevals left. The worst color combos can keep their pushed new legendaries though.
>>98122494I choose not to believe you and that you will kill yourself the moment that list sees the light of day
you can just target people who are playing cringe, it's free.
>>98122857Define cringe.
>>98122864blue, excess boardwipes, blue, maybe the deck they played last game was cringe.
>>98122386Weird, he didn't have that piece marked as owned by WotC on his site. Thanks for the heads up though.
>>98122910Seb got dropped by WotC because he sang some song for truckers in canada during covid, he probably lost all ties with them.
>>98122864Top 200 on EDHREC
>is the best UB product we ever got Not a high bar but a bar set nonetheless thoughevermaybeit
>>98122919I mean like on his website he specifically marks them. Most artists do this, I think they legally have to. I just avoid art with that marking normally, but that image doesn't have any such disclaimer that it's not just a personal work.
>>98122934Huh, weird.
>>98122932The 40k ones were also fantastic but they made so few of them that the only cards from it I have ever seen played are my own
>>98121070was going to build Vivi after seeing how powerful he is but I decided to not be a faggot
>>98122932Those aren't the 40k Decks
>>98122639I really love when UB piggies say shit like "Just wait until a franchise you like has cards! Then you'll buy!". There are quite a few franchises I like that have cards and ATLA is literally my favorite show ever. I haven't touched any of it, so much so that I just pearned today about this firebending bs.
>>98122932>huge Fallout fan>bought all 4 for $158 on release >they're worth $350 plus tip now Wish I got the Necrons deck when I saw one at Walmart years ago near release when it was only $60
>>98122962ok
>>98122708Just don't play with those decks, my dude. You have the power to say no.
>>98122663Anon hasn't left the house in so long that when he sees someone who's literally just a normie who's kinda eccentric and annoying sometimes, the danger center of his brain starts going off
>>98122986If you think prof is merely a "slightly eccentric normie" I question the kinds of people you meet and hang out with on a regular basis.
>>98122944He's not so bad in commander; but its a fair call.
>>98122708They will never ban Kinnan- he's their overpushed golden boy designed to bring more fat autistic kids and nonbinaries in to the game.
>>98120431>went up very suddenlyMy guess is it is used in a 60 card format. Same reason shit like badgercub mole is 60+ dollars
>>98121070Nothing else really does this effect in the colors, so the entire deck just falls apart if the commander is ever removed. Also it is forced to use lots of land destruction which asshurts people even if it replaces their lands.I guess it works out. I hated this bitch in the show.
>>98121170>asmongold>normieright wing grifter man is not a "normie" anymore than Hasan Abi is.
>>98121829A signed sumo card by one of the current Yokozuna. You didn't specify magicOther than that? Probably JAWS. Shit is at 160+ despite being all of 7 months old. I sold some of my more expensive shit last month to fund a standard deck.
I don't know characters that well; is Liliana an appropriate source to attribute the quote? Is there a better one?
>>98122434They have always been crazy with their ads. No other youtube channel I know does shit like that because people will not watch such long ads unless you're like REALLY fucking funny.
>>98123013>right wing grifter manTranslation: anyone who disagrees with me on anything
Design his card
>>98122991Well we've already established that you never leave the house so it makes sense that you don't know what actual people are like
>>98123037lmao
>>98122991He really is. But you guys unironically think fucking asmongold is a "normie" lmfao
>>98122578I think his product reviews are good. I have bought numerous things he recommended and they became my standard for that type of item. I cannot stand any of his other videos. In gameplay videos he seems like a miserable asshole who throws games for grudges and angle shoots when annoyed. In any other video he is constantly CONSTANTLY crying and moaning about UB. Even if the video itself has nothing to do with UB. Like a fucking Lorwyn pack opening video.
>>98122986cope harder faggot, your month is coming up
>>98123074>a full month of anon crying and bitchingend it all
>>98123041>2WUB>Human Mutant Warrior>First Strike, Vigilance>Witcher Signs - When Geralt enters or attacks choose one:>Put a shield counter on him.>He deals 2 damage to target creature.>Tap target creature.>Gain control of target creature until end of turn.>Put a stun counter on target creature.>Mhhm... giant slash marks all over the victim... a drowner. Gotta be.>4/4
>>98123041WUBRG for no reason
>>98123074Bot reply?
Need a commander? Why not Nashi?
>>98123263he cute
>>98123263Does regular Ninjutsu work from the command zone yet cause I'd rather run that Nashi
>>98123072God he looks like leather face more than joker.
>>98121829A revised plateau, so about $250. I bought it for $50, so a 5x increase.Outside of MTG, many years ago, on a complete whim, I grabbed a Southern Islands set for literally $0.01 on an ebay auction no one bid on, all just because I really liked the Mew art.The Mew alone is worth $300 now.
>>98123263Furfags get beaten with metal poles in the streets
>>98123301PRINT IT YOU COWARDS
>>98122582Banding
>>98123360>Human Rules Nightmarejej
>>98123263>>98123276Yiff in hell, tourist.>>98123354Based!
>>98122864Universes Beyond
>>98123037He's a WoW streamer who doesn't know shit about dick, he's the definition of a grifter playing politics for attention
>>98123333I should really get around to selling my Pokemon cards, I have this too
>>98123333Checked and hell yeah bro. That set was one of my favorites when I was a kid. Never got the whole thing, but I've got these. English, so probably not worth as much.
>>98123384A damaged English Mew goes for like $200
>>98123388Nice. I wouldn't sell it, but that's neat to know.
>>98123379>>98123384>>98123333>I am now reminded of the binder of pokemon cards I threw away a few years agoAAAAAAA
>>98121546I say I'm rolling to pick who I'm going to attack, but I really already decided and just roll to make people think it's random.
>>98123412Jesus christ man
>>98121829Silver scroll Force of Will. I'll probably sell it for a few reserved list cards, I just don't know where I would trust with a $1000 card and don't want to take the loss selling to a store.
Enchantment Man 1WLegendary Enchantment Creature - HumanCommander Bestow WEnchanted creature gets +1/+1. If [this] is your commander, damage from the enchanted creature counts as [this] commander instead.1/1
>>98123263Wow this card sucks
>>98123427That's the kind of thing you do through a broker or just directly on Ebay
>>98123263>commander wants to swing>can't ramp into it with Sol Ring
>>98122578It was confirmed he was fucking trannies wasn't it?
>>98123461that's the thing, he does it for free
>>98123461>has a degree>supports mentally ill faggots How can you be a boomer with a degree and likely an above average IQ and support such nonsense? How does something like this happen? If he was 20 years younger this might make sense, but he isn't.
>>98123509This might be the lowest iq post I've ever seen>how can someone have a different opinion than mine?!?!?!?Gee anon idk
>>98123519Yeah, this won't work on me. Thinking men can be women isn't an opinion.
>>98123509education makes you more stupid, not less
>>98123509He's a public reddit leftist. They are pulled tightly toward the center of their faith due to extreme incentive structures.
>>98123532Explain such a thought process
>>98121170dysgenic
>>98123461I think he just supports tranny rights and there isn't a magical aspect where he is actually based right wing and just doing this for an advantage
>>98123550Everyone does everything for an advantage.
>>98123570Psychopathic mind set
>>98123570Theory confirmed You are the dumbest person I've ever seen on 4chan. Well done.
>>98123585>>98123579Not an argument.
>>98123586You need to be 18 to post here
>>98123451I do sell on ebay, I don't want to have to deal with them for something that valuable if anything goes wrong or there's a dispute with the buyer. Just too much risk that I end up out a lot of money.I might try taking it to a con and trading directly for other cards, see if I can get a good enough deal that way.
>>98123579>>98123585Protestant mindset.
It's here! Fuck resellers! HAHAHAHA
>>98123626Based
>>98123661theyre friends
>>98123661The Crusades predate the 95 Theses by several centuries
>>98123649Based, waiting for my because I live in kangaroo land. Here's my list if anyone has suggestions. People told me not to make krenko my commander last time. But I'm addicted to infinite goblins so just can't do it. https://moxfield.com/decks/2wqbNppuZkqclUpGupGNaA
How do I nicely tell my friend to use another deck or even build another one instead of using the same Vivi deck? It's just not fun to go against. He only builds commanders that make him an immediate target then complains about it when he get's targeted. Some examples are Atraxa, and Bruvac
>>98123763Tell him point-blank that playing powerful boogeyman commanders will get him targeted, and he either needs to accept that and learn to be archenemy, or play other decks
>>98123763tell him he's a gay fagoot
>>98123763keep wrecking his shit
>>98123767He literally get's upset if you won't let him do the thing and and it annoying 15 games ago>>98123769Thinking about it>>98123780he will complain most games and say that someone is the table threat in full seriousness if they deal more than 1-2 damage to him. I remember I dealt 5 damage to him and he complained for 5 mins about it. Vivi was at 17 counters at the time I think
>>98123763your friend is autistic and cannot handle pvp games
We need hard rules for brackets so we can tell the autist "make your strongest possible bracket 2 deck" and he can do so without holding anything back and bracket 3 players don't have to worry about him as "the threat"
I gauge deck brackets based on landbases>all taplands except basicsB1>some untapped lands but minimal typed untapped lands (essentially a precon landbase)B2>on-color fetches and shocks and surveils and triomesB3>off-color fetches and any lands above $20B4
>>98123509>has a degreeMeaning he went to college/university (also he taught there). That means he was indoctrinated, as at least half of western colleges/universities do that now, they are absolute hotbeds for it, from the studenta to the teachers, to even those at the tippy-top.
>>98123814absolutely based don't forget mana rock quality
>>98123814Dangerously retarded
>>98123823free rocks are an automatic B4, otherwise it's whatever.
>>98122944I wanted to build vivi because ff9 is one of my favorite games of all time, but wotc had to make him pushed op bullshit. I settle for kuja inalla to build around wizard tokens instead. Trade Routes with Lindblum is quite fun so I'm not that upset.
>>98123822You people are also missing the fact the troon helpline is literally a scam. Someone set up a bot to call and see how long it took for someone to answer. It was over 24 hours. The line does not exist, they're just pocketing the money for drugs and whatever the fuck.
>>98123822you can get indoctrinated just scrolling shorts or social media anon, at least people who go to college demonstrate some ability to concentrate and read.
Unban Mana Crypt>>98123823:^)
>>98123802I agree, but how? Literally how? How would this work at all? You would have to rank every single card between the brackets.
>>98123838That is an exceedingly low bar, and if anything makes them more likely to get stuck in and invested into an ideology.
>>98123849being able to read at even a high school level actually seems like a pretty high bar these days
>>98123849>That is an exceedingly low barone the right can't reach apparently
>>98123814Based. There is a direct relationship between competitive land bases and sweaty decks.
>>98123843every card gets a point valuebrackets have point capslegendary creatures can have different values for when they are the commander or in the 99infinite combos have a flat point value separate from the individual cards, with the value decreasing as more cards are required to execute the combo
>>98123802>>98123843>We need hard rules for brackets>but hownot hard at all once you put yourselves in the shoes of a tournament organizerB3 for example would be as simple as>up to 3 GCs>no MLD cards that Gavin hates>no infinites and "you win the game" combos of until your natural turn 7, meaning your opponents must all have gotten their turn 6
>>98123843https://canadianhighlander.ca/points-list/>>98123853Education is actively pursuing a pedagogy that is worse for imparting reading comprehension due to ideology
>>98123858>apparently
>>98123814you're correct but the moment you codify it some faggot will bust out mono color ex-cedh decks like Urza
>>98123825a landbase is the single most effective indicator of how competitive a deck is
>>98123858Cool, so that's 43. Now do the other 30 000.
>>98123879Meant for>>98123865
>>98123838>at least people who go to college demonstrate some ability to concentrate and readYou went to college pre-covid, I take it
>>98123871it's not a perfect system, but even Blurza becomes significantly less powerful if you cut out the $20+ lands and 0 cost rocks >>98123831
College is a scam. I wrote an essay for my pajeet friend. He got a 85. When I was in a group with him and a women who wore a hijab I wrote 90% of the group essay and we got literally 100%. When I wrote what I thought was my best essay on my own though I got a 65%. It is so obvious that they base your grade on your skin color and DEI status. You don't need to read or cOnCeNtRaTe you just need to be a nigger.
>>98123873incorrect, have you cedh magda's landbase?
>>98123942CEDH is an abomination and is not considered in this metric
>>98123939college has been a scam ever since the day someone thought that the federal government should give out student loans
>>98123873Based off of what?
>>98123943>...that doesn't countmany such casesi bet you can't even separate B4 and B5 w/o going to subjective appeals like "sovl" lol
>>98123953CEDH is not real EDH and does not count, correct. "Bracket 5" is a psyop by spooks to convince you CEDH is real EDH.
>>98123958wrong answerB1 and B4 are the containment bracketsThe only brackets that can be meaningfully set up by TOs w/o any subjectivity are B2, B3, and B5
>>98123951a generically "good" three-color landbase can run upwards of $250 just off the back of fetches+shocks, more if you start throwing in surveils and triomes. If someone is spending that much on land, they're also spending on the rest of the deck.
>>98123966not fooling me, CIA. CEDH will never be real EDH, no one cares about your Thoracle combos.
>>98123969>a generically "good" three-color landbase can run upwards of $250 just off the back of fetches+shocksNot really. Fetches are creeping up more but several are under 20. Shocks are all between 8-12 because they have been reprinted like 3 times in the past 3 years. You are stuck in like 2017.A W/U surveil land costs like 3 hallowed fountains.Also your logic is shit and not based off anything but opinion.
>>98123983My opinion is objectively correct
>>98123969>i spent money on a 5c manabase to play 5c omnath>i'm suddenly cedhwhat matters is the speed, resiliency, and consistency of one's wincon; manabases are a given and are not factored in, especially when there are other cardgames out there with broken decks that dont use mtg's mana system anyway
>>98123970>>98123970>>98123970NEW
>>98123966>TOsso...bracket 2 and 3 will also be CEDH?
>>98123989>speed, resiliency, and consistency all of which are DIRECTLY affected by the quality of your landbase
>>98123995>yeah man oops no lands totally didn't deserve a ban
>>98123989No, you're Bracket 4. As stated. CEDH does not enter into the equation as it has an inherently different deckbuilding goal (winning before anyone else gets a turn).
>>98123994B2 in particular will be an FNM staple and will drive events moving forward, which is the entire reason wotc made brackets in the first place - to drive their bottom line
>>98122578its how a coward he is, he keeps saying UB bad but doesnt have the balls to say ban it
>>98123814>my 4 color 14th Doctor deck is actually bracket 4No.
>>98124009Just downgrade your landbase if you want to play in lower brackets :)
>>98124005>cedh's goal is to win before anyone else gets a turn>but the goal of the other brackets is totally not to arbitrarily prevent combo turns before a specific turn X so people can show off their gimmicks and commander damageyou are so close to the truth, and yet so far
>>98124014Thankfully no one actually defines brackets that way and finding 3 people who do in one pod is really unlikely.
>>98124017> arbitrarily prevent combo turns before a specific turn Xand what's the number one thing that slows down decks? That's right, shitty precon landbases.Just accept it, you know it in your heart to be true.
>>98124020>>98123942>inb4 "it doesn't count!" yet again
>>98123969This logic entirely falls apart when you realize most decks are not 100% bought at their current full price. People have collections formed over the years.Urborg is like 60 now. I got it for fucking free. It also ignores special versions of cards such as SLDs.
>>98124025>Urborg is like 60 nowsee the original post, any lands over $20=Bracket 4
>>98124024Again, CEDH is barely even a real game. It's determined more by where you sit than any actual deckbuilding or piloting skill.
>>98124032Not relevant to the post I replied to.
>>98124040once you start including expensive utility lands like Urborg, Cabal Coffers, Otawara, Boseiju, you are quite comfortably in B4. Whether you paid for them or not. Expensive lands are expensive for a reason.
>>98124039>it doesn't count!like clockwork
>>98124050well yes, it's not like it suddenly started counting in the last 10 minutes. Your "argument," if you can call "but what about CEDH?" in a response to a post specifically about non-CEDH brackets an argument, was not convincing.
>>98124055Yes we all know you dont mention B5 because you cant separate B4 and B5 without appealing to subjective criteria that you expect all of us to agree to
>>98124065B5 is a spookCEDH is a made-up format for homeless Legacy players left behind by Wizards shooting the format in the head
>>98124068Yeah so anyway i just netdeck belzenlok godo's ugly cousin using only basic swamps to consistently win around t5, GG
>>98122941Chaos deck not being 4 color still annoys me
>>98124135Eh. The only one that could be G is Nurgle, even then the Warp is distinctly separate from natural reality. Grixis seems fitting to me.
>>98123333Huh. This made me check the few pokemon cards I have left and I realized I have the movie promo Mew still in the plastic. That might be a few grand if I get it graded.
>>98124286Where are you seeing that? Not trying to be mean, but I'm pretty sure it's not worth that much.
>>98124359ebay sold listings of PSA 10s. I see ungraded copies and CGC 10s in the hundreds range, but my understanding of card grading is that CGC isn't particularly valued despite their comicbook pedigree, so I wrote those ones off. The "might" in my post was very relevant, and I understand that I need to do more research before taking any action. I work at a store that sells magic but not pokemon, so the market is mostly foreign to me and I accept that. It also assumes that being unopened means being a 10, which I know isn't true. Just kind of shocked that there's potential there.
>>98124087He doesn't look so tough. I could take him.
