Why does it feel like basically every non-general thread about a system is 90% shitting on the game (for surface-level reasons, never anything about the actual rules) by people who've never played it?Shitting on 5e I can get because 5e is the most popular, but shitting on other systems is pointless.Generals feel like the only threads to actually talk about games.
Most people here don't actually play games, which is why they aren't able to name an alternative. But they shit on 5e because, as you said, it's the most popular game and they want to fit in. Probably also for some culture war reason.I swear by all what is holy and divine, if this thread gets deleted while all the other shit is allowed to stay, I'm going to swear a Fëanorian oath on the whole board
the whole board is just trash, bait, and spam threadsevery general is full of shitposters, ritual posters, and at least one resident schizo trying to talk about a game in its general is just a crap shoot whether you'll just get a canned response then ignoredthe share thread is the only good thing left on this board, and I'm eternally grateful to the people that share there; just skimming other peoples' requests has introduced me to so many things I wouldn't have gotten on my own
Negativity gets the most traction. Notice any non-general thread with rage baiting gets 200+ responses while regular questions and positive thoughts threads end around 50ish responses.
>>98115296Sadly, negativity tends to stimulate conversation much more than positivity does (garbage quality conversation that's mostly just shitflinging, but nevertheless, it keeps the threads alive)Also, my experience is that in like at least 75% of cases haters don't actually know shit about the system they're shitting on and in fact attack some misguided second-hand idea about the game rather than what the game actually is (because they didn't read the damn book) No matter how tempting it might seem, don't feed the trolls and don't engage with the haters who clearly aren't looking for an honest exchange of ideas and opinions. Talk about your games and the things you like. Not much more we can do really
>>98115296All the people who want to talk about a system seriously have retreated to small discord communities where gatekeeping is easy and actually viable. If you don't know how to find these communities, it's intentional. We don't want you.
>>98115331I spent all yesterday trying to be helpful both in my game's general and in random threads. I got exactly zero responses or engagement. What DID get engagement is people baiting each other and people complaining about Jews. This isn't a game board anymore. The /pol/ takeover is complete and succeeded in murdering one of the only good corners left on this site, and the jannies either can't or won't keep up. >>98115410>Also, my experience is that in like at least 75% of cases haters don't actually know shit about the system they're shitting on and in fact attack some misguided second-hand idea about the game rather than what the game actually isIf that. Half the time they're complaining about real or perceived culture war nonsense that doesn't affect their lives in any way.
>>98115296Years ago, I used to bring up the faults and flaws of various systems, but all I ever got in return for my cited examples were various flavors of>HYTNPD&D?>just find a new DM/GM>just find a new group>just rewrite what you don't like>rule 0>the rules are just a tool kit>the rules that anyone who can read can see are just subjectiveand other forms of pathetic deflecting.It didn't matter if it was D&D 5e, GURPS, PbtA, or any of the D6 dice pools I've commented on.Nobody wants to talk about mechanics here, they just want to talk about the cool things their cool arbiter did that you'll never find in any book if you actually read them.Nobody sees the inherent hypocrisy of giving a system credit for the good things people have done with them but ignoring or making personal accusations for the bad things people have done with them.
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>>98115296Could be a variety of things. >The game in question is actually bad. Happens sometimes but there's usually something to discuss if you actually play the game and have experiences. >No one has played the game, including OPThis seems the most common, if OP is asking about random game XYZ they haven't played they're only going to be able to ask surface level questions unless they deep dive on the rules and very few nerds here are actually autisitc in the cool way anymore, its mostly social anxiety autism instead of hyperfocus. Even those surface level questions will depend on someone else having played XYZ and have anything to comment on, which can be a few posts but its not going to sustain a long thread. >Trolling and being shitty for its own sake Lots of anons do this. Its easy to ignore if you've actually been here for more than a year but it seems to get a few of you down more because you're stuck on a rose tinted glasses version of the board where their real hobby is /tg/ the place rather than any games mixed with a loneliness for nerd community that basically died with covid and the 2010s commercialization of hobby spaces. As always the solution is to play some actual games, make notes and content for them and post about that if you want that to be what's here. Your metaposting is gay and doesn't do much. I get you might need to vent sometimes though and hope you have a better day.
>>98115296Threads get lots of (you)s when they're disingenuous engagement bait, and lots of anons here lack other hobbies or interests. The amount of threads that boil down to a creative writing prompt far outnumber threads about playing or running games, and we're all aware of why that is. If this board had IDs i think it would be very revealing. I'd love to talk about Bolt Action or Gaslands, but I know any thread I make will be buried by "How does my fetish work in your setting?" or "I'll suck your dick and eat your shit XD" or "le local lorde lmao". You can't talk shop with people who don't play games, they have nothing to add.>>98115331>the whole board is just trash, bait, and spam threadsAnd cross posts from other boards, mostly stuff that shluffs off /tv/ and /v/ that can't gain traction on a faster board.
>>98115501>The /pol/ takeover is complete and succeeded in murdering one of the only good corners left on this site/Pol/shiterry has succeeded in murdering the whole site, not just /tg/. Entering to /lit/ /tv/ or /a/ is like witnessing a graveyard but instead of graves is mountains of turds piss and blood. Moot was right all along. But aside from that you have the schizoids and discord raiders who are here to push their culture warrior slop. General culture has also entirely colonized 4chan and murdered the spontaneous but fun anon culture. Now everything is like a Reddit thread.
>>98115501>Half the time they're complaining about real or perceived culture war nonsense that doesn't affect their lives in any way.Are these threads a good example? >>98093340 >>98101456
>>98115296nobody cleans up shitposting and board culture is dead and buried for 10 years
>>98115965the 2e vs /osrg/ war threads would be a good example. though they're just shitflinging and not culture war.
>>98115360This isn't just a 4chan phenomenon either. It's pretty widespread across the internet now.
>>98115421>everyone is selling their souls and government IDs to a single non-indexed shitty electron appgrimI mean I get it but the whole point of using 4chan is/was to avoid shit like that
>>98115296How can anyone discuss actual rules of a system, when every table running that system runs it differently (even those running it as written), and the major excuses against that system's flaws consist of "rewrite it" or "find a different group"?
>>98116660>the whole point of using 4chan is/was to avoid shit like thatToo many normalfags and liberals here now.
>>98116670Yeah but also there isn't even a decent normie alternative. There just isn't anything like a forum left on the internet that isn't decaying away and is mostly bitter oldfags to boot. I might genuinely vibecode myself a ghost forum at this point with chatbots posting there based on shit they can scrape. Hell maybe I'll even integrate le discord into it, scraped and turned into a forum.
>>98116660"Avoiding shit like that" leads to the problems OP made this thread to complain about. I'll gladly just deal with it if it means being free from retarded faggots on public websites and being able to kick out the few who slip through.
>>98115965Yes. No one complaining about the games in those threads actually cares about them as games. Hardly any of them read them. But they know the games are marketed to people they don't like, so they have a vendetta against them.
>>98116670>Too many normalfags and liberals here now.Cope, seethe, mald, etcYour boogeymen aren't the ones vomiting /pol/ slop in every single thread instead of just talking about games. If anything, it's people like you turning /tg/ into a containment board for angry culture warriors that can't fit in anywhere else.
>>98117502>But they know the games are marketed to people they don't like, so they have a vendetta against them.Why is there a vendetta?
>>98117513Begone, shoo, meds
>>98115296People shit on the big three for sucking all the oxygen out of the room and then fans of the big three shit on everything else because they've bought into the "lifestyle brand" garbage and feel personally slighted by alternatives to the products they've replaced their personality with.
>>98118674What are the big three other than 5e?
>>98118782Magic the Gathering and Warhammer 40k. Trying to find people willing to play other card games or wargames is like pulling teeth at most stores. You either need to supply both sides and hope you find a random adventurous player (who is probably only willing to play your game because they got ghosted by their planned opponent) or have friends willing to get invested in a thing just because you are. It's very rare to find random groups playing anything else.
>>98115296Non-general threads are just general threads that haven’t survived yet. Various adaptations are required to swim this ocean of piss.
>>98115296Because this board has become nothing but bots talking to bots talking to bots. Case in point, see >>98118866
>>98116917Except forums were (often quite tightly) moderated. Just say you've never experienced them, zoom zoom.
>>98115360I remember the week where people thought that a smiling Shang Tsung would save the board...
>>98115296Dude to prove your point just post something good about ACKS and fishfag will pop up to hate on it. Just cause the creator isn't a raging leftist or bend the knee to leftism.
>>98119361Stop moving the goal posts, I can see the skid marks from a mile away. We were talking about /tg/.
>>98115296Does it? The Draw Steel thread is full of shitters, but the Traveller thread had a lot of fun discussion. I've got a lot of Warhammer and DND stuff filtered so maybe I don't see it, but the games that get shat on seem to either have made themselves easy targets or are things that rightfully deserve scorn because the creator is a certified cunt. If there's an Aliens RPG thread recently I haven't seen it, or Mothership, or Shadowrun... Strike, Stargate, Gumshoe, whatever. How can games be shat on if there aren't any threads outside of the generals? I must not have the second sight necessary to see all these threads about systems.
>>98115296There is literally a Star Trek thread on the catalog, mistakenly posted here instead of /tv/. It is one of the better threads on the board.
>>98120085>public websites>We were talking about /tg/lol
>>98117502What is the vendetta caused by?
>>98118782Cyberpunk, Pathfinder, and 5e for TTRPGSYugioh, MTG, and Pokemon for card games40k is the only real Wargame you can normally see people play in most game stores. Though for a while X-Wing was popping till they fucked it up.
>>98115296That is on purpose. Jannies and bad actors want to destroy your experience on this website. Sadly, you will not move to better ones because you'll realize how small the actual playing population is.>>98115421Extremely based.
>>98115331You have successfully described a vast majority of this website. Most boards are like this to some extent now. It's terrible, but at least there's a semblance of on-topic discussion on /tg/, other boards have it way worse (/co/, for example, has a much higher concentration of schizos, spammers, and general freaks than most other boards, /tg/ included, for some reason). /pol/ breaching containment and the site being overrun by newfags and refugees from other websites completely ruined the site./tg/ in particular also suffers greatly from the simultaneous massive decline and massive commercialization of traditional games, with both 40k and D&D becoming effectively normalized and massively astroturfed in the last couple of years. That probably has a lot to do with it as well.
>>98115421Okay.My money will go elsewhere then.Always remember the lesson of Dr. Who... the money providing public doesn't need to support your faggotry.
>>98128809>he wants to pay for discord but refuses because gaysa win is a win
>>98115410>Sadly, negativity tends to stimulate conversation much more than positivity doesthe thing is, negativity and in-depth criticism aren't even mutually exclusivet. somebody who's often been labelled problematic because I pointed out how things could be improved(these days I just try to let people be wrong)you could absolutely have negative conversation that still has merit because really, constructive criticism often just be like thatthe problem is many people on tg don't put in the effort and go with uninformed cheap vitriol
>>98128525Cyberpunk is top 10, but it's not the third.The RPG popularity charts usually go like this:>D&D 5e/5.5eorder of magnitude power gap>3.5/PF1e > PF2eAnother, but lesser power gap>CoC, VtM, Lancer, Daggerheart, D&D 4e, WHFRPG, Shadowrun, Cyberpunk, etc.With relative order depending on the local circumstances.
