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How long would it take the Scooby Gang to prove that Chaos is just a guy in a mask trying to drive down property values so he can buy the land for cheap?
>TQBecause they shit hard and long.
>What faction do women playHere's your answer.
I painted my second Wraithguard, has my painting improved?
>>98123614I'm thinking about starting a guard army and trying to paint them to look somewhat like the Confederate army. I used abominable intelligence to mock up what a squad might look like. Does this come off of as southern boys or no? What could be changed to convey that?
>>98123624>Fred rips mask off>Is just a flayed skull beneath >Jinkies!
>>98123637it looks fine for a base coat, needs highlighting, layering, shading, etc.
>>98123614Wait why is there a tau in the background getting his noggin chopped off?
>>98123643meme-dream-team is eldar and tau "making grimbright noblebright godbright"
I like orks :D
>>98123633Wee-a-booWee-a-boo!
>>98123638
>>98123653Tau are evil.
>>98123637could do with a wash, im not familar with that paint scheme so im assuming an orange wash?
Post your wip and latest dudes>>98123637Base coat looks a lot cleaner than your first one, good job.
The several women I know a few play nids, then deldar, then sob. The deldar players use wytch heavy lists led by the female characters. The nid players have lots of gaunts and lictors and carnifexes. the sob players use pretty standard lists. they're all at least moderately well painted, none of them are unpainted, and some even have above average painting. Most of them are generally bad at the game itself but not out of the ordinary for casual players and this is not a "girls are bad at warhammer" generalization since warhammer is a pretty straightforward wargame that skill just scales with experience and investment so anyone can be good. Most of them are fine to play with and the little chatting we've done during breaks or lunch they're normal. about 50/50 on married vs single.all in all, normal players and you guys shouldn't be surprised.
>>98123637Crisp yellow anon, nice work. Keep at it!>>98123638This isn't serious, right?
>>98123614Hey everyone it's once again time for the collage anchor posts.This month's theme was Big dudes and was left to your own interpretation.I'll try to post an anchor every thread but if you can't spot me write"here is my may collage submission" and it'll be way easier to find you in the archive.Here is the link to next month's vote:https://strawpoll.com/wby5QLM2ByALooking forward to seeing some big models
>>98123638Needs more white flags and on knee poses
>>98123638I prefer grey colors for confederate guard.Also check Anvil industry stls for proportions in blender and then go check wargames Atlantic’s “rebel yell” stls for more space confederate looking bits.Hope it helps.I hope some people catch on meaning the American education system has hope.But I sure some other historical stl makers are putting out confederate stuff.
>>98123710Paint anything you want but include feet in pic when?Photoshop Tarantino’s face over bob Ross’s face if it wins some month later please.
>>98123710hey mr.ross can I make a suggestion for July? it should just be armageddon themed to celebrate 11th.
>>98123638I’d say ditch the chestnut colors and keep to the greys because khaki colors look more like modern camouflage, and most uniforms were either entirely grey, blue, or chestnut, but never really a mixture. I’d also recommend getting the cadian upgrade sprue or bits of it from ebay, it has a lot of unhelmeted heads, and hats that can pass for confederate hats which you’ll want if you want them to be confederates because helmets weren’t really a thing during the civil war.
So, if daemons can possess technology, to the point where it's hard to make new machines because you have to ensure that the circuits and wires don't accidentally form a Chaos symbol and get the thing possessed or whatever, then how do Tau, Orks, and Votann, constantly innovating their technology and not having a bunch of priests carefully making sure nothing goes wrong, avoid this? One assumes that Eldar know how to make things that don't trigger daemons, that's fine.
>>98123734Why are you encouraging bro to a ban from his lgs? I hope for his sake he just plays with friends at their own houses
>>98123742How do you know that tau and votann haven't designed their gear to avoid that? They don't have the priests but they're very smart lads and lasses. Also beings of the warp care a lot less about tau, their warp presence is minuscule. As for orks, it's a known fact they don't use gellar fields and welcome incursions. Daemon summoning is just another scrap to be had for them
Probably a dumb question, but can’t you just scrape off the trim for the heldrake to make it easier to paint?
>>98123755100,000 years in the iso cube, creep
>>98123755No
>>98123742I imagine it the paranoia of the Admech and Inquisition. It happened once and things went real bad so now everything has to undergo 1001 checks before it can move on to the second step of 34 of the approval process while the Tau and Votann go “It’s actually pretty easy to not make a circuit board with hidden demon glyphs if you aren’t a retard,”
>>98123679stop spamming every thread with this shit. no one gives a shit about your hello kitty sob.
>>98123768post your own, or are you waiting for james to prepaint them for you?
What is this supposed to represent?
Codex Jokaero when?
>>98123773>post your ownno I don't need internet validation unlike you
>>98123753>>98123765I would think the Tau at least can't design their gear to avoid it, since they don't believe daemons are a real thing, and just think they're a weird race of hostile aliens.
>>98123776Codex space wolves is basically the same thing just use that
Is anybody actually excited for 11th edition?
>>98123775Cases for holding scrolls
>>98123638>>98123734I’d also recommend looking at krieg and thinking about using the cadian upgrade sprue heads as a headswap for them. they’re way less armored and have bigger coats which might lend it to looking more like confederates. >>98123745grey and grey uniform, and a weird lack of helmets is way too vague to be considered a confederate dogwhistle. most likely people will think its meant to be pseudo urban camouflage or some weird space wolves centered guard. that is unless he follows >>98123720 advice, in which case he 100% going to be booted.
>>98123768>>98123773>anon complains about contributions to the thread>doesn’t contribute anything himselfMANY SUCH CASES
>>98123633Chicks dig giant robots
Let Chaos idols take this thread!
Can anyone identify where the back half of this conversion comes from? The rear wings appear to come from a guardian heavy weapons platform, but idk where the seat and other parts come from.
>>98123679>>98123710heres a doll
>>98123768Sorry that you don't like my stuff I don't like most of my stuff either>>98123775Nunchucks the BA use to smack some sense into their brothers heads once they start referring to the enemy as "Horus"
>>98123782The tau, like the votann are very scientific. I imagine if they had accidentally stumbled upon summoning daemons during making shit, through analysis and reiterating they'd figure out the problem and fix it, no need for belief in daemons. Also their constructions are probably pretty ordered and neat and they don't end up with say, tangles of wires or sloppy circuits that resemble chaos runes. They also fight chaos and daemons and aren't as completely oblivious to them as you seem to think. Mind you all of this is pure fan theory because James cbf fleshing out their xenos properly
>>98123806Damn dude, that white is crisp. Very nice.
The Votannfags won't like this.
>>98123810If I recall right, part of the reason for the Farsight Enclaves is that Farsight encountered demons, was told they were odd but fellow Xenos and he went “No the fuck they are not,”
Why is it that the only faction that has never had a split (like Farsight enclaves or Eldar/Dark Eldar), besides the hivemind Tyranids, is the Orks? All Orks just want the same thing, and there's never an Ork who's a philosopher and thinks about anything beyond the specific method he wants to kill people using.
>>98123788>most likely people will thinkSo the thing is the chance of someone recognising it and calling anon out is very slim, but the consequence if that happens is harsh. If anon wants to risk that, so be it but I just think it's a dumb thing to do/encourage. Though if someone trully wants to make a confederate based guard army I feel like they're going to say/do something stupid to get themselves banned anyway
>>98123810>>98123817>daemonsThe Ethereals know what's up but standard earth caste goyim don't.Also, I would imagine that there's very little possibility of summoning a daemon without any warp energy in the area. Don't they need warp shit to manifest?
>>98123614big and tall female xeno sexy, awooga awooga
>>98123817Right, but that was a long time ago. "Modern" tau have been around the galaxy for a while and aren't as naive from when tau were introduced to the setting
>>98123818It’s because Goblins never got a serious 40k counterpart, Grots are all a joke.
>>98123818They're bioengineered to like fighting and only fighting. Plus they have a psychic gestalt. Not so different from 'nids in the end.
>>98123818"Split" is the perpetual state of their being. Infighting is so normal it's expected.
>>98123818REVOLUSHUN NOW!!!!!
>>98123638Stick with the confederate grey uniform, maybe a darker tone on the armour plates, and use golden yellow markings to highlight rank and give some character to them.
>>98123818>never had a splitevery ork fights every other ork except when there's an enemy to point them at
I want to make an army that's mostly about psychic powers and psychic guys. Besides Thousand Sons and Grey Knights, do I have any other options?
>>98123845Tzeench daemons
>>98123638Do a few as popping zouaves for contrast
Everyone please vote Heavy for next month's theme so I have an excuse to paint my Rogal Dorn.
>>98123856Based and Berber pilled
>>98123799I just want to thank you for the occasional seethe you causeChubafags are the most powerful race on earth
>>98123813no one cares about your autistic hyperfixation
>>98123870no one cares about your autistic hyperfixation
>>98123662>>98123709>>98123711>>98123745>>98123788I don't know why you guys are weirded out by this, they're already an established regiment https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Arkan_Confederates
>>98123820In my experience people who paint their models based on a controversial aestheic do so for attention so if they get called out they can play victim and "own" whoever it is they are looking to provoke.This doesn't only apply solely to chuds. Years ago I organized a painting group that this trans person joined with some marines to paint. They straight up said they were painting their marines with female heads and trans flag colors to bait chuds and piss them off. No one took bait and they stopped showing up after 2 weeks.
>>98123818orks are constantly split into tons of splintering factions that war against each other just as often as they war against anyone else. every once in a while they'll unite under a particularly big orks banner like ghaz or the beast, but otherwise they're non stop infighting and civil war
>>98123820even if someone recognizes it, they’ll likely just keep quiet in fear of being called a racist for jumping to conclusions, for the rare few who recognize it, and are social enough to point it out, all anon needs to do is Stonewall them, and deny they’re meant to be confederates and there’ll be no way of proving otherwise based on a basic color scheme.of course, this is all assuming he’s actually serious about doing it, and not a daydreaming failure.
>>98123832we could use a second greenskins army of grots. aos did that and its one of GWs best ranges
>>98123888>civil warThey see it as a democratic election for who is the biggest and fightiest
>>98123878Fire caste was a good book, I especially like it for showcasing the tau as villains.
>>98123894I would love it if they just made each Ork clan a unique army, space marine-chapter style.
>>98123878>space confederates? cool! let’s look up where they’re mentioned.>in one of the peter fehehvari books. you guys have been shilling that author forever now, this is my sign to pick it up.
>>98123901Seeing yellow and purple get more models would be cool
>>98123856stripe the pant to complete the larp
>>98123867see my project (assuming it gets here on time) is a thunderhawk, so it doesn't matter if heavy or quick win because its so big and so fast it counts as either
>>98123901they kinda did with the speed freaks and the beastniggas sub ranges.i think if you include bikes and kopters, speed freeks probably have more models than all of dark eldar at this point
Is Gr*k hallucinating? I have literally never seen anyone run assault terminators in BA.
>>98123893>"Yeah, I'm going to buy a Krieg army and paint them like some 1940 German soldiers.">"And I'll have a full list ready and fully painted in a single week">"And they will look professionally painted too!">"And when I take them out to play at my lgs, it's going to make the libtards seethe so much!">"And I'll defeat them all with my superior wit and intellect!">"And someone will have filmed it all too and post it on YouTube where all the based YouTubers will have a thumbnail of me as a Chad titled "This Kriegs player defeated Libs with Facts and Logic!">"Then Henry Cavill will call me personally to play a Commisar in his show!">"Shit, I've daydreamed in the shower for so long that now the water is cold."Many such cases
>>98123916>slopfagaway with you
>>98123867I play orks, so I feel your pain. what the fuck could be considered quick and nimble in the ork range?
>>98123908maybe they could green stuff the pants to get the swooshy look of zouaves
>>98123870The is no seethe, there is just aversion to the truth.
>>98123633I would like to respectfully and consensually nut inside her without protection.
>>98123633Isn't the original photo a death guard codex?
>>98123921>>98123867does that category include monsters? i've got a norn emissary i've been trying to find the motivation to paint
>>98123922that would rock. having a cool unit of zouaves would be enough for me to overlook anon being a larping homosexual
>>98123880>straight up said they were painting their marines with female heads and trans flag colors to bait chuds and piss them off.Why is this behavior mostly condemned when it comes from “chuds” but seemingly encouraged when it is the enemies of “chuds?”What even makes one a “chud” nowadays?>no one gave attention to the flag painter>left after two weeks Probably took more than that to be honest.I’ve seen 40k armies branded as “chud coded” whatever that means.Never a guard regiment yet but maybe the kriegers would fit the bill with these types because the dkok wear stahlhelm looking helmets.>inb4 ww1 usageThey don’t care.
>>98123880Oh yeah for sure, happens on both sides of the fence and just boils down to a certain personality type. Hardcore rights are so much more similar to hardcore lefts than they'd like to believe>>98123893So we can debate the likelihood and theorycraft people's reactions all day, that's entirely missing the point. Even if there is a 0.0001% chance of someone recognising and calling you out, would you take that risk when the consequence is a lifetime ban? That's the question one has to ask themself before committing to mething like this, to me personally it's not worth it. Have you ever written a risk assessment? Typically with sow a low chance of probability but high consequence event that is completely avoidable, the risk management strategy is to just not do the thing
>>98123918I am one of those cases.
Someone said the 11th edition rules were leaked in french or something, anyone confirm?
>>98124010I confirm, I have em, they're pretty low res though.
>>98123941This hobby (and table top gaming) in general are full of poorly socialized feral people. I have played this game with full blown tankies and dudes who are not as subtle as they think they are with their admiration of Hitler. People who have had their brain rotted with grifter politics live every second playing out a scenario in their heads where they finally get confronted by their enemies and beat them in a debate they rehearsed over and over.The tran spacemarine player didn't just leave because no one was taking their bait. It's also because no one liked them because they tried to steer every conversation they were apart of to be about politics or some drama between internet grifters.This whole left vs right, victimization, power struggle, bullshit is prevalent mainly for the chronically online. Most people who actually go outside to play 40k just want to play 40k.>>98123948The enemy of someone seeking to offend others is silence.
>>98124015Nice. I imagine important shit would get lost in translation though. How long would it take me to learn french do you think?
>>98124026just wait for the official rules bro
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98123921
>>98124026it's just the core rules, the equivalent to matched play rules isn't there, so there's very little to glean beyond what we already know.
>>98124023Fair enough.I was like that in my teens.I’m not sure what made me stop.So I don’t know a cure.I do worry about slipping back in or having a Freudian but autism flavored slip at the lgs.The fact that I am a guardfag will do no favors because guard collective player base and fan izzat is most likely in the negatives.
>>98124010https://gofile.io/d/Ez0BJ6english translation, enjoy
>>98123878So is this more offensive than the wfb pygmies?
>>98124058nah
>>98124045Thanks anon! Also>You can pivot as much as you want with no extra movement costSo what you're saying is I could just have my dudes constantly spinning at high speed as they move across the battlefield like the Tasmanian Devil, or a beyblade
>>98124072correct, bayblading away from your enemies is mandatory
I bet dark eldar taste like nickels
>>98124072will we once again see dark eldar and necron banana transports spin backwards to prevent charges and then spin forwards to guarantee them?No actually I remembered, you check distance before charging, so you can't gain distance when charging.ok this is much smarter than pivot taxes
>>98124026It's not that hardeaux
>>98123878This reminded me of the buck breaking meme.I wonder what the dark eldar version would go like where instead of a massa it is a female dark eldar talking about peculiar humans that love being whipped or something similar to typical dark eldar bdsm stuff.
What's their fate in 11th ed?
>>98124124SQUATTED
>>98124124Hopefully into the trash(legends) where all firstborn garbage belongs.
>>98124144Uh oh flame war incoming
>>98124124Who?
>>98124124Replaced by primaris variants.Cawl pulled new things out of his big butt for marines.Has Cawl done anything else for the imperium besides marine stuff?
>>98124069>that model manufacturer nameWhat do those letters actually mean so I don’t make my name a higher priority on the watchlist?
>Orks: S4 T5...shouldnt it be the other way around? orks are like 100% muscle, their whole identity is being strong
How can Loyalists possibly compete?New Vanguard Veterans < New Raptors
Does anyone have the Reign of Terror pdf? The link in the archives is dead
>>98124169in his most recent novel he went back in time and stole Necron technology from the War in Heaven so that he can build his own pylon network like which existed on Cadia to give gorillaman a way through the great rift, eventually even hoping to seal the rift entirely.
>>98124178Is just a game, anon. The stats are very abstract figures that vaguely represent the units and are subject to game balance however GW sees fit (and boy are they terrible at that).Orks/orcs in warhams are known however for their super thick tough skin and ability to shrug off injuries/pain. A basic Blood Bowl orc has the same armour value as a fully kitted up dwarf
>>98124191We gonna get alternate dimensions and multiverse stuff in 40k soon?>went back in timeI mean warp stuff can allow that I think.Was it post cadia buck breaking event that caused the warp stuff that scattered heresy era dark angels into the future to become fallen or risen thus damaging dark Angel izzat forever?
>>98124124>Tactical MarinesMaybe sticks around to make firstborn 'technically still around' and not 'counts as' Intercessors. If not, the best that might happen is moving the remaining boxes to Siege of Terra-era 30k until they make nu-Mk7, if at all; the books mention but intentionally don't picture it. Really depends how sentimental GW is about the kit that outsold WHFB.>RhinoCSM, Sisters of Silence, and Imperial Agents still use the Rhino chassis to varying extent, but only one of these armies actively uses it in lists, and if that gets removed, then the Deimos kits still exist for an out until they make some obligatory Daemon engine replacement vehicles or some shit.>>98124169For what it's worth, the Dawneagle jetbikes have Admech imprints on their chassis, which is highly unusual for the Custodes armory.
>>98124194nta but I feel like they should raise the toughness ceiling so that strength can have more room to breathe
Pitch your idea for an OC xenos race that will totally fit into the setting and be a good addition. Bonus points if you describe what makes them unique in gameplay.
>>98124124I just want to put primaris stuff in Rhinos. Gw fully fucked Tactical Squads forever by making Intercessor Squads their main battleline unit, but there's still a rhino-shaped gap in the range that the Impulsor doesnt properly fill.
>>98124198>books mention but intentionally don't picture it. Quotes please. Page numbers even.Wonder how many threads outside this general will be made if gw gives the firstborn the upscaling.Makes me wonder how much overtime the wannabe janitors will be doing.Their latest thing is asking for model posting after “you missed the general” and “demoralization thread” with ninjago character discord screenshots.I’ve been on this board or too long.Truthfully I wonder if gw is making the mk7/mk8 highly prized rare helmets now as they were put in the marine heads back with a Christopher Judge lookalike probably to boost sales and nostalgia milking.
>>98124197naa it wasn't "true" time travel, the Necron planet is question was under attack by the Old Ones and the ancient Eldar, and they imploded the system's sun into a black hole. the Necrons moved their world to the edge of the black hole in such a way that they ended up trapped in gravity + time.Cawl devised a way to cut through the gravity of the black hole in a localized area allowing him and the others with him to move freely and get the Necron data they needed.
>>98124199This is another problem with GW's stats, yeah. Something like a d100 percentile system allows for much more accurate stats since you can have minor, more gradual increases/decreases, and thus statblocks in like the RPGs feel so much more accurate. But if you're only going from 1 up to say a 6, then each point of stat is a much larger jump and you get the sort of shit where Marbo is hitting just as hard as a marine, when really he should be something like a Str 3.5
Khorne reminds you to wipe the butt
>>98124237I eaet enough fiber to shit out in the grass.
>>98124237thank you khorne my hero. I don't know what i'd do without you now that the imperium declared that bidets are heresy
Was that one early-edition half-Eldar space marine ever formally retconned, or is he still technically canon, or what?
>>98124244The Emperor ruled that all bidets, like adrathic weapons, were reserved for his chosen few
anyone have any idea how to make a defiler more noise mariney?
>>98124194>A basic Blood Bowl orc has the same armour value as a fully kitted up dwarfI mean, checks out. Your average orc is like three times the mass of a dwarf.
>>98124217>Quotes please. Page numbers even.Age of Darkness (2nd Edition), Pg. 39.>In the closing days of the Siege of Terra, the Loyalists would introduce yet another mark of power armour: Mark VII ‘Aquila Armour’. This variant had its roots in developmental work undertaken in the last few years of the Horus Heresy, and was little more than experimental, even when it entered limited service. In the Great Scouring that followed, it would be Marks VI and VII which would enter mass distribution amongst the Loyalists, but such grim tales are the preserve of another volume.The same paragraph is copied and pasted in the 3rd Edition rulebook, just with a Raven Guard beakie. HH2 The Martian Civil War book makes securing the future of MkVII an early plot point, with the Imperial Fists securing the designer and the templates, and a dying Alpha Legion Praetor claims the traitors already downloaded the data.Given that the plastic sets have already made retcons to justify literally everyone having access to MkVI to some extent, I wouldn't put it past GW to make another to hamfist MkVII at some stage. I mean, it would be fucking funny if they did that while the (retroactively designated) 'Heresy' mark still goes without a plastic kit. Otherwise, 30k adopted the old Drop Pod kit when 40k replaced it, but adopting 40k Tacticals merely remains wishful thinking.
>>98124251Make him into a giant organ
>>98124254Mass doesn't really have anything to do with AV in BB thoughbeit. It's a stat that's used to check if an injury is sustained when they go down, so it's purely a representation of how hard a hit that dude can take and potentially shrug off
>>98124257that'd actually be dope.
>>98124256Considering they gave the Horus Heresy rulebook the Age of Darkness subtitle, as well as finally getting into the Scouring book series, it wouldnt surprise me at all if they made a scouring campaign book for the system and repackaged Tacticals, Devastators, Assault squads and Rhinos for it, leaving 40k to be Primaris only.
>>98124245Replaced by a Farseer from Ulthwé of the same name who advises Bobby G after his resurrection. Eldar and Humans are explicitly stated to be similar only in the most superficial sense and cannot interbreed.
>>98123653This doesn't answer the question at all.
>>98124273Imo, the old ones pulled some early hominid from Earth and went ham on their genes to make Eldar.
>>98124265Yeah 40k historicals are what a fair few are anticipating or thinking might happen if the Heresy is too restrictive. That said, from a models standpoint Citadel has already been kind of lousy and slow with getting out all the core options for the legions, the majority of fast attack/recon stuff still doesn't have any plastic to go off and Dominion Zephon is still the only non-resin HQ with a jump pack outside of conversions. And these guys were allegedly wanting to tackle legion unique units sometime ago. Guess all the other armies ate into their time, but ironically they've probably done better with SA and Mechanicum than marines and are nearly to full parity with resin.What I'm personally wondering is what will happen with Centurion squads. Aggressors aren't too much of an equivalence and the STC was found after the Age of Apostasy still more lore than the Rogal Dorn tank unless they want to do another retcon.
>>98124072Put a repex on a magnetic stand, and just spin it while you scoot the base.
>>98124187It's a good time to be CSM, the kits they've been putting out for the last few years have all been bangers. Planning to Magnetize these so I can play them as Kill Team, Raptors, or Warp Talons.
Bought the Admech Armageddon box. Yay.
>>98124273>>98124283The War in Heaven happened 60 million years before 40k, well before the first hominids.However, Earth was one of many worlds seeded by the Old ones and so are related in some distant sense to Eldar.Also, anything can breed anything if enough biological or warp fuckery is involved. Genestealers can do it anyways.
>>98124313Never seen anyone use the hovercraft before, they secretly good or something?
>>98124313I don’t believe you
>>98124251Leopard Print on some of the panels, turns anything into a noise marine.
>>98123638Grey with yellow trim, or red. Not grey and black.
>>98124321No idea, I just love the designs. >>98124325I considered screen shotting and editing out personal info from the LGS website confirmation, but I do not have the energy for it.
>>98124313You bought these ugly ass things?
>>98124335>you have to dislike it the /v/ermin hivemind said it's bad!
>>98124335Yes, because they are neat. I wanted to bolster my Skitarii, Onager and Dominus with them.
>>98124335i like the chicken walker
>>98124313I was tempted to get the Knights one, but decided against it.
>>98123921Squighogs are getting Mobile in 11th, so...
>>98124351I was going to, but ran short while the pre-order price was up and now it is something like $200 a box. Might just grab another Questoris, the new knight or the plastic Lancer instead to finish off my Freeblades.
>>98124360The Eye of Terror bataillon?
>>98124372The Knight battalion? Yeah.
>>98124360The Bellatus somehow being more expensive than the Questoris and with a fraction of the options is a bit of a letdown. Though unless they make better rules for allying, apart from Canis Rex's sheet it's still the knight least dependent on others, but the Lancer is still cooler and would round off a collection nicely.
>>98124097This is a plot point in Nightbringer. A former torture victim misses his daily horrific torture and mistress.
>>98124374Was the pre order price lower? My LGS has them for $168 after discount.
>>98124376Purple Knight Anon made me covet a Bellatus. Never saw the appeal of Canis Rex, only because I refuse to run named characters that are not my generic character /mydudes/.>>98124381People are scalping it for $200, but pre-order was $178 last I saw?
>>98124335The crab is cool, the chicken is cool, the higgens boat is ok.
>>98124384>Never saw the appeal of Canis RexFluff-wise, he doesn't have a lot other than his knight breaking free and rescuing him, then dedicating himself to freeing people, hence 'Chainbreaker'. Lots of baked-in wolf iconography otherwise. For a crunch standpoint, he's a Knight Preceptor with a static loadout but beefier, and is made to be ran independently from Armigers, lending better as an ally. Though people will be likely to run a generic Questoris in his stead and is what I intend to do after I finish the basing on mine.I'd have to see a Bellatus around to really get a feel for it. Not opposed to the idea of a medium knight but it's not my first pick after obligatory Questoris + Armigers, maybe it'll get more weapons down the line? On the other hand, it would decrease the workload on magnetizing by a lot.
>>98123679my latest dudette
>>98124431
>>98123936kek
>>98123633My wife have a DG army.
>>98123633tyranids
>>98123679And done>>98124431Nice work on the face and I really like that sword.
>>98123638>Does this come off of as southern boys or no? What could be changed to convey that?General with a white beard on a white horse with a cavalry saberthe standard should be a large red banner with a blue and white imperial Aquila.desu though while the ACW meant a lot in context of the USA, when trying to apply it as a setting to 40k it comes off as kind of boring.Maybe they should have a quirky gimmick like Vostroyans, maybe they're from a Knightworld but are the second sons of Knight families and thus organize into regiments calling themselves knights while not having their own Knight to pilot.Or be lazy and throw in a KKK guy.
>>98123870pippa unironically doesn't wash her pussy and has some of the worst hottakes known to man.
>>98124187>>98124307the problem lies in the design philosophy>CSMwild and thematic, guys tearing people's heads off or having wacky tentacles>SMall are same safe lookalikes with samefag designs and samefag boring, if you don't like it then use an upgrade sprue nerd
I moved to Japan a few years ago and have been getting back into 40K lately because it's getting popular here but holy shit it's driving me insane how it seems literally everyone insists on-Tournament layouts with L-shaped terrain on cards-No asymmetrical deployment-No twists (or secret missions back in pariah) or challenger cards -MUST always use the latest mission deck to be "fair"for CASUAL GAMES there is literally no tournament scene here, no official tournaments. Sometimes some random guy on twitter will organize a private tournament in some community center but it's unofficial with zero stakes yet people constantly bring tryhard netdeck meta lists to casual games with tournament layoutsI don't mind competitive games but I hate the fucking immersion-ruining terrain templates and I fucking hate seeing 18 wraiths and 3 technomancers in every fucking necron list I fight
>>98124203it's late and I'm tired and mostly just want existing xenos not in the game to be fleshed out, like a nicassar model for tau, the Q'orl empire or the hrud-qah army. Any totally OC race I might come up with would bore me.
>>98124520Chaos is fun
>>98124520Yeah that's why I picked up CSM, they're marines but more fun, and they do melee better, which I like, because I am a retard.
>>98124203Slaanesh worshipping humanoids, with big milkers, obsessed with extracting cum from humans.
Freebooterz deserve a codex.
>>98124203Hrud. Army rule lets you reverse one of your opponent's moves per turn. Your opponent moved 10", now they have to move back 10". They shot and wiped out a unit, no they didn't.
>>98124203a faction that uses the more conventional alien races and ufo designs >grays >reptilians>mantis people >h.g. wells's martiansand at their lead they have interdimensional aliens that look like a cross between a ghost, an angel and the mothman, whose gimmick is being made of clear plastic so the hobbyst can choose whether to leave them fully transparent or have a partial painted physicality or painting them normally fluff wise I want the hg wells martians to be the previous inhabitants of mars that have been kicked out by humans, and the others similarly are alien races that were once dominant one way or another but have been pushed to the brink of extinction for different reasons at different points of the galaxy's history they could be linked to the cabal, I guessgameplay wise they would ideally evoke the spookiness of modern ideas of aliens instead of the more bombastic rendition of space operas and normal 40k, so they would have many gimmicks where they appear out of nothing or teleport around and very up close, take control of enemy units or make them disappear in a flash for a time, but in any case they would have very small numbers and very strong weapons, with their toughness and energy shields potentially tied to some weakspot in the army that has to be dealt with before the other units can start falling fastto emphasize the fear that they're coming after you, rather than waging a conventional war they might have rules for abducting characters one turn after another as well as a few very slow entities that are powerful enough to force the vast majority of enemy units to hide from it instead of trying to fight it, at least before the weakspot is destroyed, maybe it can deal a greater number of attacks towards a greater number of enemy units so the opponent thinks twice before shooting at it and will prefer avoiding it; at the moment I'm imagining a tripod in this spot.it may easily be unbalanced, but I think there is a niche here.
>>98124203The Qu. They turn your opponent's models into something else. Like boom your terminators are now a herd of humble grazing elephants, and you pull out your 3D-printed elephant models for them to use instead. The must migrate to the wetlands before the end of the game.
>>98124203sexy catgirl monster riders
>>98123638Based history enjoyer. I'd either wait for GW or find good mordian iron guard models and headswap them
thoughts?seems tailor made for mulching marines
JAMES CHANGE LETHAL HITS AND DEVASTATING WOUNDS TO RENDING AND BREACHING AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
>>98124610I'm fucking sick and tired of invuln, especially on vehicles. What's the point of being tanky and having a lot of wounds if you can just also outright ignore wounds
>>98123755>artillery hits on 3s ignoring modifiers if there's a spotterSeems like my 3 whirlwinds and 3 speeders from 8th are going back into the fray.
>>98124610>no options>special rule>11 wounds>5+ invYup, not touched 10th not touching 11th
>>98124265What would this even achieve? I want to keep playing 40k against 40k factions with my marines, not switch to a different setting entirely.
>>98124203Is time.Killing machines, not undead mummies resembling terminator but actual robots lead by a superior and alien AI that wants to awaken the whole galaxy to the glory of metal and the superiority of technology
>>98124203Hyper-intelligent Ape Society. Gorillas, Chimps, Orangutans, Spider Monkeys, all of it. Jokaero and the Kinebrach from the Crusade were long lost cousins of this factoin that descended from survivors of ship crashes on those planets. They have wear no armor but have personal shields equivalent to power armor, a lot of vehicles and heavy weapons controlled with implants in their minds, no warp presence, like the T'au, to bog them down. Different monkeys have different roles, Gorillas have big guns, Orangutans tech and vehicle experts, spider monkeys infiltrate, Chimps are the GI's.
>>98124630sarkoni emperor, next
>>98124399You should post yours when you finish it, alawyas nice to see the livery and schemes of another Knights player. Purple and the other Knight player with the 3D print sentinels are pretty cool too, not to mention the Chaos Knight player doing nothing but freehand.
>>98124630All you need is one rogue votann that's racist towards fleshbags.
>>98124203>Pitch your idea for an OC xenos race that will totally fit into the setting and be a good addition.I WANT THE BALLS. GIVE ME THE BALLS.Seriously though, I think an abstract elemental truly alien race would be neat.I don't know if it would sell well though. All the market research I have is 'SM typically sell well' so these guys probably wouldn't.
>>98124642good for an eldritch chaos unit, bad for an army
how would an enslaver army work? would it be warhammer soup of all infantry soups that also gives anti-psychic 4+ aura but upon killing the enslaver those units do effectively desperate escape test for each of them and lose army/detachment rules without enslaver aura?
Am I blind or are tank markings and graphic explanation of infantry markings gone from the IG codex? 10e codexes feel like a massive downgrade even when compared with 9e, not to mention 8e.
>>98124645>how would an enslaver army work?you start with a few enslavers and instead of killing enemy units you take control of them, the more enemy units you have the more enslaver you can then summon
>>98124203Bhargesi. Loosely based on the Growlers from Vor:The Maelstrom. Entire army consists of Beasts, Swarms, and Monsters. The largest units are the size of Knight Destriers, their battleline units are Carnifex sized.
>>98123633>play nids and tau>one day randomly tune into one of the tourney livestreams>two trannies playing>it's nids vs tau
>>98124668>HTS plays nids because it's the girl faction>AGP sticks to his autistic roots and continues to play TauChecks out.
What army do I play to get a big titty Tau gf?
>>98123734>>98123788>>98123638I was goin for something similar with krieg bodies and cap heads. Was pretty chuffed but I got annoyed trying to source all the cap heads seperately from the upgrade sprue
>>98124687how rancid
>>98124598The best Dark Eldar character that never was.
>>98124687Hon-hon!
>>98124203The Cephalim EnclavesMany betentacled creatures that float through the air using innate psychic control over pressure and gravity to power and pull themselves along by their many coiling tentacles. Their home world was long ago pulled into the warp but their decentralized minds and erratic cognition, with each tentacle having a literal mind of its own and their head merely governing by consensus, caused them to create a fuzzy and undefined region within the warp around their homeworld and wherever they roam that roils and flows and allows them to move freely through it like the warp beasts of old. It is unclear how sapient these beings are as they do not communicate by any language, but they are immensely curious collectors and problem solvers and have adopted several other species into their enclaves within the seethe. However, they are hardly benevolent keeper, dissecting their finds to study and reassembling them into chaotic rewoven forms that should not live and yet do as bespoke constructs of flesh and sinew while their minds are also fused into a cluster more similar to their masters. These folk, calling themselves the Cnidarins and often resembling men mixed with various deep sea creatures from alien antediluvian seas, sometimes speak but in garbled disjointed riddles of run-on sentences that flow endless from one mouth to another. Some Cephalim travel in groups, appearing to harvest or terraform a world for their own alien purposes and cause warp storms to cut it off by their mere presence, while some travel alone with their sculpted enclaves as mouthpieces and set themselves up as "benevolent" wish-granters or hedge-mages in isolated corners of populated worlds while their agents walk as eyes among the people.
>>98124634It pretends to be a Necron Overlord.
>>98124713sounds unoriginal
>>98124203I know not many people will remember this but imagine an army based on Chimeras of Resistance game with all the units from both games, kinda cool.
>>98124630Men of Iron were such a nice concept and is a recurrent idea in sci-fi, sad the concept is now trapped behind shitty dwarfs sidekicks or crons...
>>98124203I've come to accept the destinyfag's votann victory. Thus I assume more from his franchise are coming.
>>98124734shut the fuck up with your schizo bullshit
>>98124203Chaos Xenos faction. They surely exist.
>>98123904The book is great.
>>98124734>destinyfagXehanort? Heartless, Nobodies, or Unversed?
Destiny is a shit game.
>>98124747It is inevitable that KH4 will have Star Wars.
>>98124615KFF has been around forever anon
>>98124747The best Sith.
lemme guess the destiny schizo is DarkMech or some other "long teased" glup shitto faction fan
>>98124203Choose
>>98124734Give these
>>98124203Give silicon-based rock people life.
>>98124203
I've been reading Black Library stuff lately, and it's really gotten my attention. How much would it cost to buy a Ork army if I wanted to get into the game?
>>98124766>glup shitto factionfuck off.
>>98124766Stop using star wars terms that don't work in 40k you faggot. A faction can't even be a "glup shitto", only a character.
>>98124203S K A V E N S (in space)
If dangerous mutating substance discovered, is it wise to inject it into yourself?
>>98124793A lot. Start with a basic infantry box to see if you're built for the hobby
An undeniable fact about 40k: Just as the Eldar made Slaanesh, the Chozo made Tzeentch.
>>98124799To achieve superpowers? Absolutely.
>>98124805tzeentch isn't a bird
>>98124796>A faction can't even be a "glup shitto"If we move beyond the SW usage I think it can work for 40k. Like Hrud definitely scream 'glup shitto' within the context of 40k. The problem is morons here want to use it for Imperial Guard regiments with models and campaigns or less popular First Founding SM factions.
>>98124804Soimething like this? https://a.co/d/0j0SWRiS
>>98124794think i will stay specifically because it makes you mad>>98124796you can still form parallels and use the term as a shortcut to get across the point, so in that way a faction can be a glup shitto. Just look at the small xeno ruled sectors that were blockaded by Imperium till recently due to the Great Rift. In the same way the Dark Mechanicum is mostly squatting on few planets in the Eye and Forge of Souls and would now somehow make some big push to the forefront as their own playable faction
>>98124799I'm pretty sure all mutating substances are dangerous. Also, yes.
>>98124812
To anger the anon, I will recommend Votann become even more Destiny than ever. Being a combination of all Destiny factions.
>>98124820votrannies should be erased and replaced with some ideas anon are posting here, some are really good and better than nasapunk stunties.
>>98124820the fallen/eliksni could actually be a pretty swell tau auxiliaries if gw could think of more than just battlesuits and kroot
>>98124819The worst models on all the Tzeentch range, except Magnus that is not even a bird but a winged oni.
>>98124820Which one is this?
>>98124829Is this a Tyranid weapon or I can't tell.
>>98124805>ChozoSkeksis made TzeentchLike, actually, literally
>>98124814Eh, I'd say Forge World regiments qualify as glup shitto. I'd call Krieg glup shitto considering the only reason most people knew about them were crappy Reddit memes.If Elysians get plastic models before Catachan or Tallarn get an update there will be bricks thrown.
>>98124828>had bird feet and feathers growing from his limbs>"that's just a winged ogre, bro"
>>98124203A race of literal weapons. I mean walking talking guns, knives, etc.
>>98124830I didn't know guns could be pretentious yet here we are, such an overdesigned piece of shit.
>>98124203Behold! A cosmic horror!
>>98124830you can't tell
>>98124841Modern day guns that differ from established patterns tend to be hipster designs answering questions nobody asked. And even those who do established patterns tend to be corporate nonsense being adopted because certain people mysteriously found bags of money at their homes sent by gun companies, or firing themselves without anyone pulling the trigger.
>>98124843>Kirby in 40kNoooooooooo
>>98124144Go play Fortnite, child, this is an unc hobby
>>98124203Ghosts. Like actual ghosts. If you need a Sci-Fi explanation, make them energy beings that did the reverse CTan thing. You could even make them proto-necrons that were converted into energy but do not actually have necrodermis bodies or anything and have to wander as semi formless energy of Ctanic powers instead of Warp ones.
>>98124848You forgot horribly corrupt projects with constant pointless money sinks.
>>98124144They will rerelease an updated rhino with wheels, call it a primaris rhino and you will shit your pants with glee and declaring you always loved the rhino design and that any posts stating hated for the rhino were 'firstborn' false flags.
>>98124124I will use them as proxies until GW threatens me with the Pinkertons to stop.
>>98124865
Would it be good for the meta-narrative if the Eldar Gods returned?
>>98124880More guys for Primarchs and space marines to beat up?
>>98124880leave the pokemon battles to necrons, and in retrospect removing the avatar of khaine would be net benefit for the eldar as it would be one less thing to clown on them for
>>98124848Or French.
>>98124888What benefits Eldar is the last thing you should be asking before doing something in 40k
Is this destiny?
>>98124880They tried introducing another Eldar God to the setting and it was the most botched plot GW has ever written and abandoned in record time
>>98124896the first thing i always ask is how i could shit on the imperium more
>>98124901What did they expect? That an Eldar model going to be a big hit even with the shitty lore?
>>98124512>doesn't wash her pussyYes, and?>has some of the worst hottakes known to man.Anon, I don't know how to tell you this but most women are retarded and filled with bad takes.
>>98124880the eldar god are dead, they are not meant to be brought backkhaine is alright being shards, at best we can point to one avatar specifically and say "this named shard is the real deal, all the other shards are pale shadows" just to distance from the decades of jobbingynnead is alright being stillborn, and honestly nobody really cares about that modelisha and cegorach are the only two that are actually alive and can and should be used, since they also correlate with 2 model ranges the eldar have, but they shouldn't be used as full gods, but recontextualised manifestations of some kind, for example it's perfectly alright if cegorach is characterized as never showing himself directly and only manifesting a "marionette" of some kindwhile isha would require an escape plot from the garden of nurgle, but since any and all narratives should be full of tragic errors and pyrrhic victories, then isha should die in the attempt to flee and instead the eldar should get a daughter/spiritual successor stepping in the role of the goddess
>>98123614I painted this little guy, what do we think? Did I do the least useful EC datasheet justice?
>>98124900Pretty sure I've posted my Lego Mars Mission Votann on /tg/ before.
>>98124880Why is Asuryan cosplaying as Malice?
>>98124955EC have access to terminator sorcs?
>>98124961No, I just got the 2007 chaos lord / sorcerer model for free and have an EC army so might aswell use it as a sorc, base and height are the same, I also had to cut and glue that book in his hand.
People that complain about getting gotcha'd are bad players that need to be told how to beat their opponents.
>Reading Tau vs Imperium lore>Read the bit about the Imperium freaking out that the Raven Guard chapter master was killed>The bit says that it's rare for a first founding chapter master to die in battle....Er.Does this imply that first founding chapter master usually die of old age?
>>98124965This, if you get gotcha'd by a combofag, just beat them up
>>98124900no, I'm not really sure which faction is the most like Destiny aesthetically
>>98124955perfect
>>98124744unfortunately since p much everything can be corrupted by chaos it's likely canon. but GW isn't going to make kits and minis for each and ever chaos warped xenos so your only reach options is printing stuff and running it as cultists.A horde of random xenos dregs in chaos rags wielding decorated daggers would make for a neat cultist horde
>>98124977No, most chapter masters die in battle considering marines can live for centuries and they don't have retirement plans. Imperial Fist have a new chapter master all the time, the actual guy that runs their chapter is Lysander the first company captain. Dante is old as shit and he's still doing his job. A chapter master would look like a scrub if they didn't die in service of the Emperor. The average guardsman probably just get fed that chapter masters rarely die for propaganda reasons.
>>98124977They do die in battle but it takes longer than other chapter masters. They're harder to kill.
>>98124959I'm sure there's some academic term for this phenomena, but this is a case of secondaries creating a totally different idea of a character than the canon. Asuryan gets given this black and white theme as seen on his 'representative' Asurmen fan art
>>98124900>>98124983I've never played any of the destiny games before. Do votann really look like a copy+paste of the characters from that game?? Seriously you guys have been going on and on about destiny since Votann got announced. If anything they look like the terran marines from starcraft to me
>>98123640>kengan referencehello "me"
Posting interesting lore stuff from Ghaz's new novel "Warlord of Warlords":-Being the warlord of such massive hordes of Orks can be a negative for Ghaz. Often, the enemies would be krumped or close to it before Ghaz could get to the front lines.--Ghaz is the Waaaagh! He is DA GREEN. The embodiment of the Ork race. But the influence of his Goff origins persists. Being cunning has its uses, but he still prefers a straight-up fight.-There can be no coexistence with humans. No compromise. Ghaz will crush humanity and prove the dominance of the Orks once and for all. Ghaz vowed to drag the human Emperor from his throne and break the Imperium. He will rule over its ashes.-Ghaz possesses insane durability. He was blown up by a Mega Smasha. Buried alive. Got shot in the back by a mega-armor shoota and in the front with a Snazzgun. Tanked a rocket to the chest. Shot in the face with a Storm Bolter. Slashed around with a power sword. Walked around and fought with the Black Sword lodged in his shoulder. I could go on. This is not the full extent of the damage Ghaz took. He is truly the Waaagh! that walks.--Ghaz gave a Black Templar marshal who was obsessed with revenge on him his version of the M.Bision Tuesday speech.-Ghaz claimed that he let Ragnar Blackmane win.-The final fight is between a wounded Ghaz and a Blood Axes shadow boss who, over the course of the novel, attempts to assassinate Ghaz. The Shadow Boss gave Ghaz a good fight, but he ran out of weapons and tricks. He was forced to wield the Black Sword against Ghaz. Ghaz asked him if he believed that a sword blessed by the humie god was stronger than Gork and Mork, and that it could kill their prophet? Then Ghaz rose up. His wounds were healed. He proceeded to beat the Shadow Boss unconscious. He spared him because, according to Grotsnik, Ghaz appreciates Orks who push beyond the limits of their race.
>>98124880marine fluff got fucked by primaris & primarchs returning, but they survive.Eldar are a dying race, if you return the gods then it completely fucks them and how they work.No.
>>98125016>Do votann really look like a copy+paste of the characters from that game??No Votann are a weird mix of fantasy dwarf aestetic with some vague NASA stuff as well.Destiny is more all over the place but the humans in that series aren't really either of those.
>>98125029Now these bits are from the author's afterword:-The presence of Ghaz deforms the galaxy. He is the pinnacle of the Ork race. The Exemplar of Orkhood. The Avatar of the Da Green.-Ghaz is basically a kaiju that stomps entire worlds, but he is more than that. There is more than rage and strength to him. He is prone to depression and bouts of self-reflection, which is uncommon among Orks. It stems from his care for his race (as a collective, not individuals). He wants them to become something better, not just stronger and bigger. He wants his race to break through its limitations. -Why does Ghaz want this? Because the Orks are a broken race. They are almost the perfect army. Numerous, durable, and self-sustaining. War fulfills them on a biological and spiritual level. Yet, something was lost within the Ork race when they devolved from Krorks.--To regain what was lost, Ghaz drives the Orks hard forward. But this has its personal consequences for him. The more his hordes swell in size and strength, the rarer worthy challengers present themselves to him.-He is still evolving. Still growing stronger. He is what the Orks might one day become. He is the frontrunner toward the Orks' (re)evolution.-Ghaz's presence affects the Orks physically and mentally. Making the strong stronger and the smart smarter. Also, it makes the treacherous more treacherous. Basically, a power multiplier for the Orks.-Ghaz isn't altruistic. He is not making the Orks stronger so they might surpass him. He needs stronger Orks because he needs to be challenged. He needs smarter Orks so that he might test his wits against them. The galaxy is crumbling, and worthy foes are in short supply. The Imperium is dying. Chaos is too self-sabotaging. And the other factions are either too weak or too distant to offer a worthy challenge. So that's why he must cultivate the strength of the Orks and keep them fighting because they are the only dependable source for worthy foes.
>>98125029>warhammer novelI'm tempted to read the ciaphas cain ones but that's fucking it
>>98125040Continued...-Does Ghaz have an end goal? Probably not. His strength seems limitless. He will keep getting stronger and bigger until someone stops him. He will grow until he shatters worlds beneath his footsteps and his roar extinguishes stars. Until DA GREEN is all and the DA GREEN is all Ghaz.So are Ork fans happy with this character development or what?
>>98125040>Ghaz is basically a kaiju that stomps entire worlds, but he is more than that. There is more than rage and strength to him. He is prone to depression and bouts of self-reflection, which is uncommon among Orks. It stems from his care for his race (as a collective, not individuals). He wants them to become something better, not just stronger and bigger. He wants his race to break through its limitations.How gay
>>98125044dunno, I don't need every faction to have a godlike avatar as a leader. orks could just become strong enough the normal way, by fighting and winning, and still be a menace to the galaxy.
>>98124880You can't have eldar gods coming back without 40k going through and AoS-esque transition.That's also why Ynnari isn't allowed to go anywhere, the consequences of them winning would fuck with the general situation too much.
>>98125029how many cocks a day do you suck on to write in such a gay way consistently for over 10 years?
>>98125062Only one.Yours <3
>>98125041Then read them. They're good.
>>98125040>Ghaz is basically a kaiju that stomps entire worlds, but he is more than that. There is more than rage and strength to him. He is prone to depression and bouts of self-reflection, which is uncommon among Orks. It stems from his care for his race (as a collective, not individuals). He wants them to become something better, not just stronger and bigger. He wants his race to break through its limitationfucking ew
>>98125044> He realizes that Orks were broken when they were bio engineered from Krorks> Wants to progress his race forward> But his personal motivation is do just keep fighting against 'worthy foes' aka his bioengineered imperative, which he recognizes has damaged his race> Also le atypical depression and introspection!!!! So moody so mysterious It's shit.Have the courage to just make him a big stompy guy who wants to stamp the universe flat without the additional baggage
>>98125052Elaborate.They are just drawing connections between Ghaz and the Emperor, who was also leading humanity toward their evolution. It's pretty obvious writing.
>>98124959I wish they stuck with the name Malal. Malice is too on the nose
>>98125075Trust me, GW 100% would have done so if they could.The reason why they didn't is purely because they don't own the trademark/rights to Malal and haven't owned it for like close to 30 years.
I love Legends and soups so fucking much
>>98125074This isn't grimdark, this is generic, this is hope, growth. That's not an ork. Being different isn't good, it needs to be different AND more interesting.>connection to the emperor!I can't believe you made it even gayer.I do not give a flying fuck about the author's inserted beliefs.
>>98125083Rubric levi?
>>98124977>>98124996>>98125008if you think about it it makes sense there are only 18 first founding chapter masters, do you morons think they are dying every day?
>>98125029did the commisork have a lot of attention in the book or was it almost purely ghaz’s perspective? >>98125044I’m personally not a fan, feels like they’re making him a primarch with all the wankery included instead of just a really cool and badass ork.
>>98125090Just a green one (not fully painted).
>>98125074Because fucking everything has a horribly uninteresting "connection drawn" with those shitty heresy books and it comes off as the author trying to do a generic redemption figure story for a race that really doesn't need it
>>98125085It's brilliant writing.Deep down, humanity and the Orks are the same. Both races are seeking to reclaim what was lost. Both are on the cusp of evolution, but only one species will cross the finish line and prove itself the apex race.Also, Orks were never grimdark per se. They are the comic relief.
>>98124900What if Warhammer partnered with Lego and released especially pretty Warhammer themed terrain that you could assemble and play in with regular Warhammer minis
>>98125044>So are Ork fans happy with this character development or what?Why would anyone be happy about ghaz getting written in the same retardedly subversive way as abaddon?
>>98125040>he is more than that. There is more than rage and strength to him. He is prone to depression and bouts of self-reflection,so the writer was going for Conan-style great Mirths and Melancholy's with Gaz
>>98125096The story focuses on the Black Templars, feudal humans, and an Ork commando named Slitta. Ghaz rarely appears on the pages, but his presence is felt throughout the novel.
>The galaxy is crumbling, and worthy foes are in short supply. The Imperium is dying. Chaos is too self-sabotaging. And the other factions are either too weak or too distant to offer a worthy challenge.Tyranid bros, are we finished? Is nobody taking the nids seriously?
>>98125104>Why would anyone be happy about ghaz getting written in the same retardedly subversive way as abaddon?Carnac/shaskais probably loves it.
>>98125104Fucking how? This was always Ghaz. It's the reason why he left Armageddon.
>>98125099>what if... Orks were like humans>What if... humans were like eldars>What if... Tau were gonna be like humans>brilliant!>orks were never grimdark, they were funnyGrimdark IS funny, you cretin. The over the top horror/evil/brutality is, by nature, RIDICULOUS.Grimdark is fun.You're either actually stupid/basic, or you're trolling, in either case I'm not gonna reply more.
>>98125116>tyranids>bunch of mindless bugs that just evolve to counter anything to throw at them>making everything a boring slogNo wonder the orks don't like them, it's like the tau but worse.
>>98125107typical black library>>98125116>third stringer faction of the already third stringer megafaction: xenosmore or less yes
>>98125122>It was always like thisnta but no? Gaz left armageddon because he got BORED, not because he was depressed & philosophical about the future of the ork race.
>>98125124PER SE.The Orks are only grimdark from the PoV of other races.Ork stories from their perspective are slapstick comedies.
>>98125119Yeah, that's why he made the post.
>>98125132He left Armageddon because he believed there was more to being an Ork than mindlessly fighting. He went on a quest across the galaxy.
>>98125124>Did you ever notice how men always leave the toilet seat up>That’s the joke
>>98125144>because he believed there was more to being an Ork than mindlessly fighting>source: BL slop
>>98125044>>98125040Honestly with how dime a dozen characters like this are in black library novels I think it would have been far more interesting or at least stood out from the crowd far more if the author just played Ghazzy straight.
>-Ghaz claimed that he let Ragnar Blackmane win.Now this changes everything. I knew that there was no way a marine could beat Ghaz.
>>98125155>I let you win, space wolves, as per space wolf tradition
>>98125155both the event and the cope are trash
>>98125155>I was pretending to be retarded
>>98125149>Depth and nuance are bad.....because they are BADBravo, anon.
>>98125155Why would ghaz let the marine win?
>>98125164>>Depth and nuance are badbecause it's meant to be the pinnacle of orkyness, not some gay human warlord with an ork reskin
>>98125164>write an ork like a normal human>depth>nuanceFor a man of the desert, a puddle might as well be the sea
>>98125170It's part of a prophecy by G&M. Ghaz's saw glimpses of it, but when Ragnar sawed through his head, he saw it in full and said "Now it begins" and laughed. His decapitated head was grinning from ear to ear.
>>98125164nta but have you considered that the lack of highschool writing level """"depth"""" is exactly one of the appeals of Orks as a faction. Kind of like how nobody is watching Commando for it's deep story
>"It's like...why is every xeno book so bad? Why aren't us elf fans getting any more books? How hard can it be to write from a completely alien pov who are unknowable and unrelatable by design? God, the imperium is so boring you guys."
>>98125180>>98125177Ghaz is no longer an Ork. He is the conduit to Da Green. He is the Krork reborn. Of course, he wouldn't be exactly like a dumb Ork.
>>98125186>literal Kengan Omega tier plot beats because you just fucking know nothing will come of thisELEMAYOH
Why are retards fascinated by powerful individuals (gazh, emperor, primarchs, insert special character) and shit like prophecies, "grand narratives"?
>>98125040>ork name chart doesn't even have 4 columns for things like >Dag>krump >Razza>zog
>>98125186>it had to happen because it had to happen that's not an answer
>>98125189>Ghaz is no longer an OrkThat's bad writing, he's meant to be THE ork character.These fucking hacks need to stop making chaos characters that hate chaos and ork characters that aren't orky.
>>98125198>I want to hear the story of the janitor
>>98125207He is to the Orks what the Emperor is to humanity.As the Emperor is unknowable and inhuman to normal humans, Ghaz is unknowable and Unorky to Orks.Connect the dots.Why aren't you complaining about the Emperor being far removed from mankind?
>>98125189>the conduit for the psychic gestalt of Ork thought thinks nothing like an OrkThat's even stupider than him acting like a human alone if anything he should be an even bigger slave to it than anyone else the author could have even contrasted that against the Ork PoV character if he wanted to do a thoughts about the future of the Ork race thing. And while I know that GW has completely abandoned it at this point shit like this misses the entire point of the setting that progress is never going to happen because grim darkness and all that
>>98125214This but unironically. The story of the cleaning maid that got to see what many haven't.
>>98125188Any xeno except evocative horrors like tyranids, hrud, rangda, slaught vs humanity is lame. Human infighting with chaos, including dark mechanicus is also good.The rest is poorly conceived fantasy legacy shit and can go. Except orks, they can stay as comic relief.
>>98125220The Imperium isn't progressing. Many of the other races are. Like the TAU EMPIRE.Don't apply narrative themes of one faction to the whole setting.
>>98125218why would you need another god emperor of mankind in the setting? one already plays his part well, this is just a bargain bin version that isn’t even meant to be there.
>>98123798nice
>>98125218>He is to the Orks what the Emperor is to humanity.He's not, and he's not meant to be.>Why aren't you complaining about the Emperor being far removed from mankind?Because the emperor is not THE human character, he is a far removed lighthouse.
>>98125234>The Imperium has the Primarchs and the Emperor>The Tyranids have the Swarmlord>The Necrons have the Silent King>The Eldar have the PLsBut Orks having something similar is too much. Starting to think you don't want the Orks to have nice things.
>>98125242>Because the emperor is not THE human character, he is a far removed lighthouse.Did you miss the ending of the Dark Imperium series about his return?Or the plot thread in Dawn of Fire about the birth of the Star Child?He is coming back baby!@
>>98125249THEM NOT HAVING THAT BULLSHIT IS A NICE THING!
>Space Marine player>It's Ultramarines>Get bored>Chaos Space Marine player>Black Legion>Get excitedWhy is this?
>>98123798Maybe you'll like this better then
>>98125255And yet that doesn't make him THE human character.And he's still going to be a far removed lighthouse.
>>98125198>>98125214>>98125225I dunno if it was just me being a kid with incomplete knowledge but when character lore was mostly just lore blurbs in codices I got the feeling that, yes, these are the badasses of this chapter for this era, but the setting is so vast that it's like we're reading entries in a vast library across millenia, so if we focus ahead 500 years they likely won't be there and there will be a new guy in charge or that chapter will have been annihilated, and at least some of those guys will just have died unglorious deaths aboard ships in massive void wars. In my mind it was like it was armies and a giant machine first, and named characters second, who were contained within a certain time period or campaign. As more material was added and everyone stayed though, it starts to feel like it's just the same 200 year period or so with the same characters who never die and if they do they are likely to come back anyway and it all feels so small and superhero universe-like.I miss that original feeling.
>>98123806>vostroyan malcador annihilatorchef's kiss
>They never re-released the Dark Eldar Maelstrom boxHow come?
>>98125267He is acting through the Living Saints and the Primarchs. He possessed Roboute that one time.
>>98125249These aren't the same things.Nobody is against ghazkull being an important character, the issue is with this character not being written like an ork anymore.
>>98125271Speaking of Dark Ekdar, what's better and why? Kabalites? Wyches? Wracks?
>>98125272and that's not enough to make him THE human character, or make him something that isn't a far removed lighthouse.do you just randomly vomit words or do you even try to think about what you read?
>>98125249>implying that having important characters is the same as a character acting completely out of what his character should beYou're just being disingenuous now
>>98125278I am calling out your bullshit. The intro of 40K mentions him first. He IS the human character. He is the most iconic human figure in the setting.
>>98125269>I miss that original feeling.Read history books. Make games and campaigns around historical references combined with other things you think are cool. That's how it worked then, that's how it works now.
>>98125029>>98125040This is retarded and whoever wrote it should be banned from the English language entirely.
>>98125283>>98125274You know that most of these characters are "out of character" of their faction, right? The Swarmlord being an individual. The Silent King being sane and remorseful.
>sub-sonic bolter ammo...wouldn't they still explode loudly once the rocket hits them?
>>98125291Oh look. Another one who hates fun.What happened to this thing? How did 40Kg anons become like this?
>>98125269>I dunno if it was just me being a kid with incomplete knowledgeIt's not about being a kid, it was incomplete knowledge, but on purpose.The point wasn't the tell you about everything, it was to give enough so that it captivates and inspires.But normalfags and retards don't care for that, they want heroes and stories of heroes fed to them.You were supposed to write these stories yourself.Speaking from my personal experience, I had the same "feeling" in childhood, then over time as I looked more into it I got more cynical seeing all the ways it got boring, repetitive, bland. Then as of a few years I decided to just not touch the modern stuff anymore. Just avoid it. Then on top of that you rediscover the old and it activates in your brain why you liked it (feels great when you realize a lot of what you liked wasn't nostalgia, contrary to what fags like to say), and from all that I just started writing my own stuff. I got my own little 40k. As time passes it's more and more its own separate thing, even if you can clearly see its origins.So in short: it's not just being a kid, it's not nostalgia, it's a real shift in how the setting is shown and approached by modern writers.Codices, snippets, distorted/biased PoVs of characters, ambiguous/mysteries events. It's all real, and it's miles better.
>>98125040I guess we can throw this famous quote in the trash then
>>98125286>The intro of 40K mentions him first.AND THAT STILL DOESN'T MAKE HIM THE HUMAN CHARACTER LIKE GHAZ IS THE ORK CHARACTER YOU GODDAMN RETARD. he's not a model you play that exemplifies the race, he's not what the other characters of the race are modelled after, he's not even the top example of what the race can achieve, he's the most removed and uniquely exceptional thing possible, and making ghazkull into that for orks is terrible writing because he's meant to be THE ork character, the model that exemplifies the faction and what other characters are modelled after.
>>98125298Turning Ghaz into a Primarch isn't fun, it's wank.The last thing the setting needs is more Naruto destiny bullshit.
>>98125292No, they aren't out of character.
What army do you think he'd play?
>>98125319>orks canonically grow physically bigger and stronger more they fight>making the orkiest ork grow bigger is wank
im just gonna say the 10th edition trailer went way harder than the 11th. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X98ImCbhjnIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHE6-XpUd74
>>98125326wait until he hears about the beast
>>98125326making the orkiest ork a sad philosopher isn't good
>nu-40k ultras slop isn't grimd-c-huds? our response?!
>>98125327The voice overs are just so cringe man
Warhammer end times is going to be a big green foot farting on all the major characters. It won’t be fun but they probably want to mix so it isn’t chaos again
>>98125316That disregards that Orks evolve back into being another species the more powerful they become. That's what the Beast and the Prime-Orks were about.
>>98125327it's because the marines die in the 10th oneall the good cinematics are about marines dying
>>98125342*mix it up
>I want to give a character depth>that means he must be sad or a victimevery time with libshit authors
>>98125338What are you even talking about?
>>98125353You come up with better character then.
>>98125354I, for one, quite enjoy Ghazkull being given the Abaddon treatment.
>>98125275Whichever aesthetic you prefer. Nobody ever likes all 3.
>>98125323he looks like a total dummy
>>98125271GW never admitted fault for anything publicly. The recall was only sent to vendors that had purchased boxes from them. They literally didn't have the stock of Hellions to replace all the ones not included in the boxes so they just scrapped the product entirely.
>>98125323IS THAT A LORD OF CHANGE AIIEEEEE SAVE ME INQUISITORMAN
When will 40k transition to 45k?
>>98125366Custodes it is then.
>>98125371When you transition to be the womyn you were born to be
>>98124610I think I will use the datasheet to build some extra big deffdreads.
>>98125323Duck or goose? This is important
>>98125302I have actually actively been trying to get back to that place by limiting my exposure to only certain parts of the setting and attempting to reinforce my headcanon and "muddy the waters" as it were with conflicting accounts, unreliable narrators and treating the deep past as myth. Staying the fuck away from anything 30k and letting what I know of it just dissipate and replace it with more broad mythical interpretations of those events instead of on the ground pov prose helps a lot. And thinking of it as a setting where you dip down into a very specific sector with their own issues, away from the "main narrative" with Guilliman and so on. I'm glad you've managed to find that place again for yourself.
>>98125354good bois are using lobotomized babies and conscious skull slaves, so grimdark.
>>98125385Goose.
>>98125341the 10th voice over was great, guilliman shit talking his priests blind faith and propaganda for 5 minutes straight while he stares at a holo-map of dead planets the new 11th one is just some guy doing generic name place product shilling
>>98125395Blood angelshttps://youtu.be/AMdhAFPWzFw?si=mb4kexhI2GoY2d54
>>98125327definitely, I think its because the 10th trailer had a lot of quiet moments where you were able to rest and soak in everything that was happening, then getting rewarded with some action, and then rest again, slowly crescendoing into a lot of action at the end.>scene of a planet getting enveloped >muffled space battle where you see the fleet arrive>marines patrolling the jungle>apothecary harvesting geneseed >all the while it cuts to guilliman in a dark room with no combat seen>then finally pays off by having an all out battlethis is contrasted by the 11th edition trailer which was a quick praying over a dead marine, monologue on the battlefield, then it was just non-stop action.
>>98125297There's bolts that replace the explosive filler with a solid core. Besides, bolts are designed to explode inside of the target, so the sound would be muffled by the body. And I imagine once you start shooting at the enemy, even if the gun is silenced, they probably realize something's going on, regardless of whether the bullets explode or not.
>>98125040>imperium is dyingEven with a primarch coming back every tuesday? Kind of based. Even though I think the author didnt think of that.
>>98125386Based + godspeed.My tips:>Don't write/mention what you don't need to / only write/mention what you need to>You can have a fluff bible, but use it as a guideline rather than word of god>Stick to PoVs. Example between:-> The Imperium is the savior of mankind and its judge. It encompasses all of mankind. Outside of it sits no other truth, and its subjects obey the sanctified imperial law, lest they be punished.>VS-> "The Imperium is our savior and our judge, the beginning and the end, there is no truth outside of it, His words are law and the galaxy watches & obeys it." - Missionary Edmondo Karterr, during the purge of Hort Secundus>Stick to specific places and remote locations, you can speak and explore terran politics all you want through the lenses of far away actors and observers. Are characters truthful or not? Are they they misguided? Ignorant? Guided by powers outside of them? It's not just up to you, it's also up to the reader.Thank you for reading my blog
>>98125327I think the DoW 1 intro goes hader than the 10th trailer, so does the DoW 2 intro.
>>98125326>>98125330Beyond modern fluff, has there been examples of orks that were fuck yuge? I know people joked about titan sized warbosses, but even the biggest bosses seemed to be maybe a head taller than other big orks.
>>98125343That should be disregarded because the idea that the pinnacles of ork-kinds aren't orky undermines the orks.The point of a faction's fluff is to exalt that faction's identity, not to say that they're dumb and weak and wrong in everything and that they should aspire to lose everything that gives them their character.>inb4 but 40k is about lost greatnessand you can have that without undermining every aspect of a faction's identity.for example the point of the imperium is not its technology and humane philosophies but its immense size and overall military might, so when you want to tell about the lost greatness of the humans of the dark age of technology you emphasize their technology and developed culture, but the moment you try to argue that mankind then was more widespread more numerous and a stronger empire that's the moment you undermine the modern imperium, that's the moment your writing is shit.in the same way you cannot make the krorks something completely different and at the same time better in everything.you either make them different, thus exalting the modern orks as better in some ways (and a potential evolution a synthesis of the two rather than a betrayal of one), or you make them better but without making them different (ie, larger and more advanced but still orky in outlook and mindset), so that looking up to them isn't a betrayal of the identity of the modern orks because the identity of the faction isn't tied to the size of the ork or how advanced their scrap is, but that at the end of the day they're still orky orks in for a fight with cobbled together scrap.I'm sick and tired of retards like you clinging to the authority of canon when the arguments people try to raise is that canon can and at times is very much written in a shitty way that goes against what's the purpose of the fluff at any given moment.Grow a fucking backbone.
>>98125432idk about 40k but the aos's generic megaboss on foot is straight up on like a 60mm base. in the ironjawz and kruleboyz ranges, the guys do actually get larger the higher their rank is.i imagine they'll start baking this into the 40k orks range as well now that they're finally starting the update of the core range
>>98125441>made sigmarines>gave orks (not)power armorI think the kruelboyz are interesting at least, would love to see them in 40k
>>98125432nta but I still prefer gaz's midhammer model. The nu big model makes me forget he's supposed to be a mastermind.
>>98125422>Even with a primarch coming back every tuesday?since when is tuesday coming once every 10 years?
>>98125073Krorks were the bio engineered race. Orks are their degenerated descendants.Their desire to fight did not cause degeneration into Orks, in fact it is fighting that causes them to re-evolve back into Orks.Orks do not want to simply destroy the galaxy. Then there'd be no one left to fight.
>>98125434>40k is about lost greatnessIt's funny how back in 2e, Heresy Era Imperial Tech was crude and shitty compared to post-Heresy tech. Imperial plasma weapons were more advanced and safer than Heresy era plasma, which was dangerous. Today old tech is always better than new thing. If they made a game set in the DAoT, it'd be a grimdark world using lost tech from previous eras and everyone's just an asshole. Because it's all they can write.
>>98125452Near a large gravity well.
>>98125381This is the way
>>98125474>DAoT or GAoTBest tech>Age of Strife / Early Great CrusadeShit tech (few DAoT relics)>Late GC / HeresyGood tech (many reclaimed/rediscovered tech, more DAoT relics)>Late Heresy / ScouringOkay-ish tech (many outright lost, ton of DAoT relics lost and destroyed, some tech can hardly be made anymore)>40k currentGood-ish tech, some have been lost and never reclaimed, some has been rediscovered, very little innovation, generally worse than peak Great Crusade, with some exceptionsHow correct am I?
>>98125474The tragedy of heroes is the tragedy of empires. As above so below. Empires either die apocalyptically like Japan, or slowly like the UK with their self professed “managed decline”. Just like heroes. Burn out or fade away. Just like life. Just like seasons. Just like the great year. The breathing of the universe.
imagine a twin linked flamer, but instead of rerolling the hit or inflicting 2x the wounds, you have to use two flame templates next to each other. Would look like a very tall heart. Cute.
>>98125489>very little innovationNot entirely correct, the Imperium after the heresy still makes new shit, but mostly end adapting field modification into proper production or makes new things due to not having the correct resources to make the original (Baneblade variants are an example of this)Also since traitors threw the scrapcode bullshit into the wild anything old or new is in danger of catching evil AI or demons if someone is not careful enough when making them.
>>98123710Pls Vote heavy like you would be voting for your mother.
>>98125518that would be coolalso twin linked should be jettisoned from the game with prejudice. just make twin guns do 2x shots, come the fuck on
>>98125474>Today old tech is always better than new thingYou can fit a Powerfull computer that in ye olden days would take up an entire office space. You posses the means to acces the most autistic knowledge you want with a few moves oy your fingers and don't have to scrounge for 1 particular book in a Library.The medicine allowed us to live longer and now people compalin abaut that.
>>98125520The MK1 Pyramid?
>>98125520Why would I ever vote for a woman
>>98125518<3
>>98125542are the orks okay?
>>98125194>gilbert then becomes a total jobber
>>98125525> just make twin guns do 2x shots, come the fuck onThat's how we do it. That's the point of a twin linked weapon really: a more expensive gun that counts as two, same way the point of a combi weapon is to have 2 guns taking the space of one.>>98125542I knew I saw it somewhere, luv it
>>98125533Yes, but we also could listen to music whilst charging the phone and now we can't because it's a shared jack, and new washing machines want you to log in.Fuck it I'm not doing that. I'm not wiretapping my own house to do what I can already do with my phone, which is now also wiretapped.
>>98125555who more importantly doesn't have even a tenth of the charisma of Eddie
>>98125447honesely the prevaling issiue with AOS is that GW chooses the worst default colour schemes. See. Stormcast, Orcs, Chaos Dwarfs. (I am not using Copyright names GW)Once you try other colourschemes they can look good.
>>98125533>Today [in 40k fluff] old [human] tech is always better than new[ly invented human] thing[s]I keep forgetting fa/tg/uys can't into context.
>>98125571this looks really bad tho?
>>98125525That's how it goes in Horus Heresy. Or used to. It sometimes isn't double shots but instead becomes extra damage. Like the beam is focused on a single spot for extra punch. It makes sense...sometimes.But I really like the double flamer idea
>>98125571while I agree this color scheme looks better than the official one, why does this version have lipstick on?
>>98125563>and now we can't because it's a shared jackYou still can if you buy the right model of phone.>new washing machines want you to log inthen buy those that don;t there is ton of third party models or fuck just buy from a second hand market
>>98125580>It Waagh'aam, ya git!
>>98125571I don't know why but i think Orruks have a lot less personalury than Orks, they just arent that... Cool? I guess is the problem shoehorning those LOTR excuse of orcs alongside them.
>>98125434That's like saying that Farsight and Abaddon undermine their factions.The difference between the Krorks and Orks is that the Orks are happy. They won at life. As seen in Ghaz and the Beast, they are not happy. They are suffering. So they aren't better at everything.Regaining what was lost when Krorks became Orks is forsaking what the Krorks gained by becoming Orks. Do you see the clever writing, you philistine?
poest moddles
>>98125589>lotrthey are the original warhammer orcs
>>98125581In doing that. But I point out that it is a trend. Everything wants you to log in. Excel wants you to log in. Windows sucks worse every version, but what am I going to do, go to Linux?I don't want anything *different*, like a new edition. I want to keep what I already had.>You can keep your old stuffYeah and I also want the rest of you to want the same. But I can't want in your stead, y'all keep asking for new stuff for the sake of new. And you don't even like the new stuff!
>>98125593>That's like saying that Farsight and Abaddon undermine their factionsYou didn't read the post at all if that's what you're getting.
>>98125580I think it's supposed to be Cracked lip. Like he is screaming so much he Damaged his mouth.Also HOLY FUCK I HATE WEBP. IT'S USELESS AND I CAN;T EVEN POST IT BU EVEY FUCKING WEBSITE USES IT I HATE IT
>>98125597>>98125589
>>98125593Abaddon absolutely undermines chaos, and farsight is not the leader of the faction.
>>98125571It's a great paintjob but it doesn't look better desu>>98125589Orruks are like black orcs but blander. To be fair I don't know squat about AoS for good reason, but I actually don't know much either for WFB/TOW, so it evens out. With that said I think black orcs look way more interesting, while orruks just look like big orks with generic armor plate on.Kruel boyz on the other hand have a fuckton of personality, so it's not just blind hate for AoS.
>>98125610>Top soulless>Bottom sovlsimple as
>>98125610>new shit was actually old shit all along againGod fucking DAMMIT
>>98125611Name three ways he does.
>>98125621Do you think current GW has new ideas at all?11th terrain rules is a retarded version of the 4th edition terrain rules. No idea how they manage to fuck it up
>>98125623chaos is a faction of worshippers of the chaos gods and not only he's not one but he presents everyone who is a chaos worshipper as retarded and weak, this undermines the faction because he's presented as the faction's top leader instead of someone representative of a subversive subfaction.re-read the above as many times as you need to get it, if you have any "but" or "if" or "this says...", then you didn't get it, re-read it more times.
>>98125353Decided to watch Off Campus on Amazon Prime because the girl looked cute.Despite somehow being an Amazon show with a 95% straight white cast, the show runs into the problem of every supporting character being more likable than the main leads, because everytime it looks like something witl happen the MCs will randomly have a PTSD flashback to minor childhood trauma.
>flawless blades have gap issues Sadly it’s not in the assholes but the legs. Big sad.
>>98125626>Do you think current GW has new ideas at all?Yes, but it's always pozzed af, boring or a shitty kit with little option.Pic related?
>>98123638The Confederates (traitors) were not very uniform when it came to... uniforms. There'd be a good amount of variation in a regiment due to dyes, wear/tear, sun-bleaching, availability, resupply, etc.
>>98123800The back wings are the support weapon platform, the one with D-Cannon option, not with guardians. As for the back, it's hard to say, but the seat looks like a backwards jet bike seat, the back rest being the thing riders usually rest their chest on. Don't even know about the top of the back
>>98125589There were cool orks in AoS... They killed them
>>98125641>and not only he's not one but he presents everyone who is a chaos worshipper as retarded and weak
>>98125589Orruks are played straight, Orkz are a joke faction. If you like captain crunch you might not like reglar fiber cereal
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/numknigp/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-necrons/
>>98125647>literally just Skitarii Space MarinesThis genuinely just reminds me of that greentext copypasta about GW going full retard and starting to make ork space marines, eldar space marines, etc. I've seen posted here occasionally.
>>98125188>How hard can it be to write from a completely alien pov who are unknowable and unrelatable by designnobody actually wants this
>>98125702Eldar are already space marines just as twink.
>>98125685Name 5
>>98125702>Anon notices stupid trend>Takes the idea and drives it to its logical yet ridiculous conclusion>People laugh at how stupid it is or think it's so silly it would never happen>Thing happens since trend hasn't died>"This book/game/movie predicted this!"Many such case1984
>>98125701>Next week, you’ll get a chance to read over the Core Rules for the game itself. They will be available as a PDF right here on Warhammer Community early next week.What's the point if we still won't have the rest of the stuff to play
>>98125589Orks are interesting because they are orcs BUT with something addedFantasy orcs were just orcs with nothing added to them, they used to offset that boredom with interesting stuff added through goblins, but aos decided to split orcs from goblins so now orcs are just orcs, they have no but, no twist, no game
>>98125676these things were terrible and their models were ass. the whole army was 2 boxes of mono pose shit. the archers couldnt even fire their bows
>>98125716>What's the pointcontrolling the reaction instead of leaving it to the leaks
>>98125044Forgot to add this bit-Among the scenes that didn't make it into the book was Ghaz attempting to fight daemons who invaded his ship, only to find the daemons unravelling from his presence. It looks like Ghaz is an anathema to daemons, sorta like a certain golden boy.
>>98125723Based cynical anon
>>98125732>only to find the daemons unravelling from his presence.m a r v e l s l o p
>>98123812>>98125270thanks fellas
>>98125732herohammer was a mistake.
When you paint, do you prefer to do YourGuys or colors from the actual lore?
>>98125743>>98125735>The focal point of the gestalt of a whole race>not snuffing out daemons like candles before a hurricane.Stop.hating.fun.
>>98125747I do a /myguys/ version of fluff colors. No it's not a shitpost for le secret 3rd option.
>>98125753>stop kinkshamingKinkshaming is my kink
>>98125753You know what fun looks like as much as a little nigger knows the face of his father.
>>98125593Abaddon undermines the fuck out of his faction and anons have been pointing this out constantly for years, you disingenuous fuck.
>>98125701Every one of these articles for an army I play talks about shit I don't useYeah man I'm so hyped to see the uhhh TOMB BLADES detachment
>>98125765Notice that you and they don't say HOW
>>98125776>>98125641
archaon and abaddon both suck
>>98125447>>gave orks (not)power armorTHE UNPOWERED KLAW
>>98125776nta but>chaos faction leader>doesn't like chaosIf he was written as a self-deluded crazy guy that'd actually be interesting. As it stands abby is a writer stand-in
>>98125786witness its power
>>98125783Archaeon is a better version of abbadon and he's still dogshit the setting is better without
>>98125676These look problematic as fuck with being savages and stereotypes
>>98125786The thumb looks good, the rest of the klaw looks like ass>that maceI hate this generic shit
how long before the aeronautica imperialis episode is available to watch on other sites
When will Lion do something interesting?
>>98125807when you kill yourself
>>98125807in dawn of war 4
>>98125807Lion had his chance to split Imperium and oppose Girlyman. Now is lost and he remains gay.
>>98125807Does getting sync-killed by Orks in DoW IV count?
>>98125797>i hate this generic shit>posts the most generic axe ever modeledlol
>>98125807What has lion been doing since he woke up from oversleeping?All I thought is that he is just running around war zone to war zone helping imperials and then leaving to the next.Guilliman did interesting things and might be trying to fix his imperium 2.0 project.
>>98125807That depends on what happens on that talk with guilliman. Spoiler: nothing
Why are all demon princes space marines
Would anyone an HH3 style challenge system to get added to 40k?
A lot of discussion about Orks but...Grots>Orks
>>98125845It would be a very tough call for a mortal to accomplish the kind of deeds it takes to garner that kind of positive attention from the gods
>>98125845because chaos guard and chaos mechanicus don't exist... yet.
>>98125820basic =/= genericthe popular medias are saturated with over-designed/sized equipment, to the point where normal weapons and restrained armor designs stand out
>>98125845because gw has no idea on how to portray that a demon prince belongs to 40k without giving it power armor.and also because marines hog the scene.
>>98125868why is the hero quest elf just a jew.
>>98125845Because humans, psykers, abhumans, mutants, and every single xenos species have never pleased Chaos as much as they enjoy playing with space marines because they are typical GW fans.
>>98125845SOONOON
>>98125907>me and bro after filling our heads with helium
>>98125907>where you workout?>at the library fag!
>>98125845the problem is that space marines already have a natural advantage over normal humans, so the type of guy who would ascend to daemon prince easily in warhammer fantasy gets his head bashed in by a world eater in 40K when the guy begins to reach space marines levels of strength.
>>98125907>psykers with bloodletter belt bucklesDo they know?
>>98125922>world eaterJust taunt him and have your friend meltagun his ass.
>>98125907How difficult for real would be to make a full release of Traitor Guard? How many models are they lacking considering each Guard vehicle just need a layer of spikes to become chaos-y?
>>98125716The codexs are the same
>>98124124Firstborn and primaris distinctions are redundant. It will just be primaris scale marines with mixed armor variants from now on. Both camps are happy that way.
>>98125845They aren't, but most of the tabletop daemon princes are attached to chaos marine armies, so naturally those ones will almost all be ascended marines. Equally, most books that cover the matter are also involving chaos space marines for reasons of marketing.
>>98125932Well WGA has them and is selling a 48ish model set for less than $90
>>98125932It's inevitable that it will happen one dayIt's a very relevant faction in the setting, it's an obvious choice for a new army, there's already so many mortal units in CSM that could break off to a whole new Codex, and there will probably never be a time when GW decides they are just done making new armies ever again
>>98125963you won't see a single traitorguardfag buy these
>>98125967Most traitor guard already have an army. Just like Sisterfags by the time GW made plastic sisters, true sobfags already had their armies.
>doomrider is the inevitable pity hero for ecWould be pretty sad honestly. I hope it’s t least a multipart kit that can have a generic hero riding it as an option too.
>>98125972>Most traitor guard already have an army.No traitorguard fag has an army.
If Ultramar split from the Imperium would that be a good or bad development lore-wise?
>>98125845Cause gw doesn't bother. Like one of the most powerful slaanesh daemon prince(ss) is some ex-human lady
>>98125662>The back wings are the support weapon platform, the one with D-Cannon option, not with guardians.The one where the one of the guys is seated? I don't think so. Compare the tips of the wings and the overall size, as well as the placement of the bumps/gems.
>>98125985You say it because there are no official army currently? or because you are not playing 4th edition?
>>98125932probably only need 3-4 more kits and proper rules desu. >traitor guardsmen squad exists>traitor captain exists>chaos beastmen exists>traitor psykers existsnew shit that would complete it would be>traitor commissar or traitor command squad>chaos ogryn squad>traitor guard flagellants or suicide bombers>chaos leman russ upgrade spruesome good additions would be>traitor walker>lone space marine handler >big artillery piece
>>98125989>wanting story in 40kgo back
>>98125770I agree. It would've been nice to know how the res orb works now, or reanimation protocols. Instead, we now know they have a detachment for the most expensive paperweights that are never usable to give them -1 to incoming AP against one (1) unit
>>98125963damn, that’s pretty nice for that price. do they fit seamlessly with GW minis if they have the same paint scheme or will they look wonky next to each other?
>>98125997He’s baiting you anon.If you posted a spiky chaos army the goalpost would have been moved.Funnily enough renegades and heretics were sold by forgeworld so there are some traitor guard armies out there.Most likely done through recast purchases.
>>98126018A lad I think 1-2 threads back got his through the Kickstarter but gamefound wga did.Fit some previous cadian lasgun arms on some.So they work.So now the question is how fast gw will rush out an official traitor guard army to deny wga money.A sort of kings of war three announcement repeat where the third edition is announced and so gw decides to say square bases are coming back.
>>98125997I say that because each and every single one faggot crying and begging for a traitor guard release in this thread has proved himself to be utterly allergic to conversions, third party options, proxying, house rules or alternative rules.
>>98125820(you)>>98125845They're not, I remember a forgeworld demon prince that wasn't a SM
>>98126018The steel legion looking guys are from WGA too, and the deathfield line are all in the same scale.
>>98126043>dude on the far rightwhat a beaut'
>>98126043CSM seems pretty short
Can I footslog at 1000 points? Do I need at least one high mobility option?
>>98125989good for the setting, good for having imperium vs imperium matches, good for catering to the already existing divide between the puritan imperials and radical imperialsbad for sales because an imperialfag will feel limited regarding what allied forces he can buy, so any imperial civil war would have to be ultimately a cold one
>>98126001>traitor commissar or traitor command squad>chaos ogryn squadthose are already a thing, since the blooded kill team release>traitor guard flagellants or suicide bombersjackals fill this purpose>chaos leman russ upgrade sprueTrue, though they already have access to Chaos Land Raiders and humans riding on them is coolsome good additions would be>traitor walkeryou've got a wide range of daemon engine flavors for this>lone space marine handlerit's ultimately the CSM codex, you can choose to take CSM>big artillery pieceTrue, give them access to Death Guard vehiclesAll in all a detachment that gives them access to a couple models from other armies with some keywords swapped is all that would be needed to make them an army
How are Corsairs doing in big Warhammer?
>>98125989rogal dorn vs gorillaman civil war would be funbut only if we get ultramar auxilia
>>98126052he is in the correct scale
>>98126053Depends if you are playing on a half-sized board or not. Incursion technically plays on the same size battlefield as a 2k strike force game and you'll have a much harder time getting where you need to be with half the units.
>>98126052Blackstone fortress model.
>>98126059Corsair coterie isn't awful.
>>98126059lollmaoCorsairs are total trash. Skyreavers are used by some players just for early chaff to scout forward and die.
Are there any true "slow and durable" factions left? It feels like Necrons and Deathguard have just gotten way faster recently, and Custodes and Grey Knights are extremely maneuverable.
>>98126060>ultramar auxiliaTitus box basically confirmed that they will be a thing sooner or later.
>>98126076>Titus box basically confirmedno, it didn't
New thread?
>>98126054I feel Puritans are already being set up as something Guilliman has to overcome. Xenos were involved in his revival after all.
>>98126072Slow and durable doesn’t win games, fast and high damage does. The logical evolution is for everything to become Eldar.
Please sell me on Monoliths. I see marines with their Land Raiders and I envy them. Why can't we have a heavy transport? Or have our actual transports carry Immortals?No, it HAS to be basic troops SPECIFICALLY.I don't want to have to buy a...low Knight equivalent (or a Croissant) to DARE transport anything heavier than a basic Warrior?
>>98126093>eldar are the pinnacle of creationI mean, makes sense
>>98124194This is a dumb Picture. Sly Marbo is literally the greatest non superhuman, non psyker combatant in the Imperium. 1 human being more dangerous than all several million space marines is not silly.
>>98126090Bake one
>>98124843Kirby is the cutest Cosmic Horror.
>>98124124Gone, like dust in the wind.It's a terrible day for rain
>>98126057>Traitor guard detachment rule (1DP): for every traitor enforcer model in your army, you get a traitor guard point, and for every heretic astartes infantry model you lose one traitor guard point, for every traitor guard point, you may take one of the following: Jakhals (they gain the damned keyword)Myphitic Blight-haulerPlagueburst CrawlerFoetid Bloat-droneEnhancements: locus of worship UPGRADE: <Daemon/Daemon engine model only> reroll hit rolls of 1 for DAMNED units within 9 inches of this unit.Possessed mechanisms UPGRADE: <Vehicle model only> in your command phase, choose one friendly infantry model within 3 of this vehicle model: That infantry model is destroyed and this vehicle HEALS d3+1 wounds.Stratagems: rabid violence: choose one friendly damned infantry unit and an enemy unit within 3 inches of a friendly vehicle, that friendly unit can reroll charges, but can only perform a successful charge if that enemy unit is one of the targets. Both the friendly infantry unit and the enemy unit suffer d3+3 mortal wounds.cultist procession: <vehicle> units may do an action in a turn in which they've fell back or may perform an action in a turn in which they've shot.
>>98124124>60 tacticals for 840 pts>55 heavy intercessors for 1100 pts>a leader for 60pts>make them more durable with vanguard spearhead(-1BS and benefit of cover beyond 12")165 H-Intercessor wounds and 120 regular wounds for near 290 wound army with leader.
>>98124124good riddance
>>9812614710 tacticals and a rhino should be 2000pts if we're gonna be honest about in universe power levels.
>>98126043>just proxy guardsmen with third party models bro!>literally all of them look like absolute dogshitI don't get it
>>98126035>conversions >3rd party>house rules>alternative rules>proxiesI think you’re seeing a problem that is part of the warhammer side of things.Even if gw can’t enforce their official model only rules at their stores lots of idiots do so anyways for other reasons.Biggest one is keeping track of what is proxying what.But I’ve never seen a proxy user use printed papers with images and text to keep track of his proxy army.Not even outside of 40k or wfb stuff.I blame printers always breaking. The paper kind I mean.
>>98126155>all of them look like dogshitWell we say the same about every official guard regiment model by gw so I think everything is fine at this point.
>>98126157A simple way to do things is take a picture with your phone, edit that image in front of Wahapedia page(badly) and then email it to be printed at your local post office that prints out amazon/ebay return labels. They do it for like 50cents a page or something stupid.It's an easy few bucks to solve an issue where you're fucked for time otherwise. Be sure to call them ahead of time and get their email address to print it.
>>98126155>>literally all of them look like absolute dogshitmaybe you just don't like the traitor guard bro
>>98126093explains why pr*maris is just eldar aspect warriors but marineslop.>legends-ed shadow spectres, objectively the coolest aspect shrine.>hey we heard you love shadowspectres, so we made pr*maris suppressors that are the same thing but worse! Aren't they cool? buy a marine army now.
>>98126059Do you think people will mind if I run my corsairs as just alternative harlequin/drukhari units?
>>98126151Movie Marines are even further from real canon than current tabletop marines
>>98125967Once they sell individual kits, I might get a basic infantry box as some cultists for my NL.
>>98126155>literally all of them look like absolute dogshitThis is different from the regular GW models because?
>>98126182as long as it's all the corsairs being such a unit, surejust explain you're dipping your toes in to see if you want to purchase
>>98126182I don't see why not? If you're just making the Army, you could even kit bash their cool armors together with Harlequin/ Drukhari pieces since the ranges are all fully compatible and easily swappable.Make sure you try to keep the guns as wysiwyg as possible at least though to prevent confusion about what they represent.
>>98126170Good solution. Now I’m robbed off all excuses like my printer always having problems.Thank you anyways.
>>98125807Why does Lion have tusks on his lower jaw?Is he Ganondorf?
>>98126198If it helps they may have color printing if you want to get fancy.
>>98126199furries is why.
>>98125932Ignoring playing traitor guard as IG, if going off GW's official policy then they don't really need to make a whole lot more, if anything they could just make a themed detachment.>>98125963So they're finally here? Neat, but it would be nice if they just did 24 infantry boxes like the others in the case of using them as cultists.
>>98124178No, retard. Their whole identity is being tough and always has been. They used to be S3 T4 in the beginning. Read lore.
>>98126210They are going to do it. The APC thing is already for sale.
>>98124568Really cool Hrud model holy shit
>>98126203I’ll pay the color printing tax to save the American economy with my leafy dummy money.
>>98126151Lolno
>>98126059Ruleswise I don't know but the models mog the shit out of the standard Craftworld crap. The helmet on that psyker is amazing.
>>98126225Looks cute, albeit somehow slightly more expensive than a Rhino.
>>98124203Rak'Gol Marauders. Make them big guys with big bases and small units, like Ogre Kingdoms.
Someone bake the new thread already
dead thread, dead game, no hype for 11th
>>98126369>>98126369>>98126369
>>98123742>OrksWoke answer would be that the ork tech is powered by Gork and Mork and nobody fucks with Gork and Mork's boyzThe real squig is that demons can easily possess Ork tech, it's just that the machine spirit equivalent of Ork tech will find itself wrestling with the demon trying to possess the stompa and piledrive it in ways that, in the outside, just looks like the engine is banging loudly then make something that sounds like a fart as the stompa's engine goes back to normal after the demon gets quite literally, shat out.
Thread?
>>98123745>from his lgsbut 40kg told me the only thing that matters is the painting hobby
>>98123818>an Ork who's a philosopher and thinks about anything beyond the specific method he wants to kill people using.Ain't Gazzy just sad and always ponders about things?
>>98123901Maybe that tierlist is more about tabletop play, but you gotta be kidding yourself if T'au are an un-orky fight because it would be both sides magdumping their dakka for a very long time (in the orkz' case, it'd be a very, long, time), and admech are a good scrap because they got good loot.
>>98124630I read the book of UR-025 and i still get chills when he kills the techpriests>I have met the omnissiah, the actual one, not the earthling corpse and he would find you very disappointing.Chills.
>>98124853In terms of scale, cybertron's habitants are not that big of a threat and i could see them being one of the various xenos species that got curbstomped in the great crusadeBut also god help us all if the transformers scan imperium tech, i don't think the universe is ready for the rawest fucking thing ever with Megatron scanning a Baneblade.
>>98125102I raise you a better proposal, GW partners with Playskool toys to make big oversized chunky toys for babies.>but scary skullsmake them cute skulls that smile or have it be a different aquilla design like the blood angels
