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You gooners got the ahsoka tubetop figure canceled.
GOOD JOB!

>>98145908
it sucks and looks ass,

they should just make EU characters and an upgraded Luke from ROTJ

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>>98145908
Nothing of value was lost.

I wish lightsaber colors had no meaning
Yes obviously from a viewer’s perspective Red = Bad and Blue = Good.
But in universe, it shouldn’t matter. Tell me what sounds less retarded?
>Vader had a blue lightsaber but he later made an evil one by taking a crystal and torturing it with darkside magic until it bled and turned red as bloood
>the jedi Anakin Skywalker owned a red lightsaber, which he kept after joining the Empire
“Jedi Weapon” my ass, now everyone has one

>>98146231
I still like the idea of them changing colors, but I hate Bleeding as a special ritual.
Anakin's lightsaber starts out as blue, or maybe purple, and every time he is tempted it flickers red. Just a flash, then a moment, a whole scene, after the final battle it never turns back again. Also, if every jedi can have blue or green now, give sith a second color. How come every color is good except red. How come magenta, purple, and pink are all good and red is 100% evil. I liked it better when green was implied to be Luke's special color, instead of being a sign of a jedi having a melee or ranged build in a video game.

Hey, you, yeah you! Give different lightsaber colors something unique. It can be whatever you want. Personality traits, ideology, whatever.
>red
>purple
>blue
>green
>yellow
>orange

>>98146296
Behold my OT purism / autism
>red: Rare natural color. Used by some Jedi, now famous due to Vader. Future Sith use it to imitate or pay homage to him
>violet*: Rare natural color. Used mainly by Jedi.
>blue: Common natural color. Most Jedi wield blue blades.
>green: Common synthetic color. Jedi who make their own blades without the full resources of a Jedi Praxum often wind up with green.
>yellow and orange: Rare synthetic colors. Common among Luke’s students due to the difficulty of acquiring naturally-occurring lightsaber crystals
Despite these differences, Jedi rarely ascribe meaning to their lightsabers. They are weapons first and foremost, the ornamentation is rarely worth mentioning

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1) TQ: Imperial Heavy Repeater My Meloved
2) Is Mauls' show worth the watch?
3) Has anyone here played FFG's TTRPG? Is it good?

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>>98145770
What do you think about the Imperial uniform redesign in RotS?

Also, TQ: the DC-15 but as shown in concept art before it got turned into less of a merge of different WWII guns

>>98146501
Yeah, OT purism considering that Maul, Dooku and Sidious all use red sabers lmao

>>98146231
eh, I disagree, i feel that space monks/space-goths would formalize colors. It just being “what you like” feels too lacking in ceremony and snowflake-y to me.
>>98146501
going pure OT I like the idea of green being a synthetic version of blue, but I dont feel like Vader would be one to intentionally sithify/dark-jedi-ify his sword. with that in mind maybe red is the dark hedi color and yellow/orange is basicly like how green operates, made by dark jedi who are not initiated into the sith/dark jedi tradition of red light sabers like how green is made by those not fully initiated in jedi lightsabers

>>98146501
I kinda hate synthetic crystals as much as I hate bleeding. Synthetic crystals just don't feel as magical enough to me to be used in wizard magic, like making a lightsaber.

>>98146725
> but I dont
meant to say but I DO.
vader would def put as much dark jedi symbology as possible.
So I would assume red is connected to the dark side, just by the ot.

>>98146792
Bleeding is one of the cooler Disney ideas. It actually makes crystals feel connected to the user
That's why the colors = roles idea is so popular, because it gives characterization towards characters unlike just being cosmetic choices that don't matter at all

>>98146296
Jedi see the force physically, so they get blue as a main color, as well as green and purple
Nightsisters see the force emotionally, so they get red(maybe magenta), as well as purple and orange.
A third group, like maybe the Baran Do, see the force mentally, so they get yellow, as well as orange and green.
Other force groups exist and get whatever colors best match their philosophy. Luke gets green because he's more heady than most jedi, Anakin and Mace get purple because they allow some emotion. Plo Koon still gets orange, since he would have a lot of cultural connections to the force outside the jedi. Green Jedi are all literally green. I feel like the saturation of your color is based on your commitment to your ideology. Most are more of a cyan or magenta instead of actual solid blue and red.

Ill do you one better
>Red: Jedi Knights (Sword Masters)
>Blue: Jedi Knights (Diplomats)
Chill Jedi chose blue, Knight Templars went red.

>The rest: DIY colors. Since Luke’s students follow a new tradition, you can grab any color you want. (but red has a bad vibe now)

Fallen Jedi are more likely to switch to red since its old fashioned and aggressive

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>>98145908
I'll be honest man, that figure really did look weird as shit. These people usually complain and cancel everything for the most inoffensive things but this shit really does look like something out of Netflix's Cuties. Jewish minds conjured this up

>>98146834
I feel like I'd like it more if it was more generic. Like, everyone starts with a colorless white lightsaber, and you always have to do... something to get ANY color.

>>98146884
… it’s a young girl in a swimsuit.
Owning figurines is grounds for internment in a mental health facility but design wise there’s nothing there.
Everyone who raged a little too loudly against this should have their discord logs leaked and RuneScape accounts deleted.

>>98146792
>>98146834
I like bleeding and synthetic crystals…

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>>98145908
I don't know if the coomers or the feminazis deserve the win for this one, but I'll take it. She deserves shit that's suitably erotic, not that ugly abomination.

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>>98146897
Some kind of attunement ritual, that would be cool.
I'm never sure what to think of lightsabers. Sometimes they are depicted as being super-important, like an extension of the jedi using it what with "this weapon is your life" or the deference Vader shows to Luke newly-built lightsaber and how it shows Luke's growth as his own person rather than someone following blindly into his father or Obi-wan's footsteps.
But they are just as often treated as mere tools, and not just by darksiders.
I think I prefer them as something symbolic and important.

All this talk of lightsabers' colors remind me of Ninth Jedi. I'm hopeful about it to be honest, but it would be nice to get some news.

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>>98146935
Bro, look at her face, she looks like she's 12. The California slut outfit for a 14 year old was already weird in the show but it's whatever, weird glaxy with exotic pagan cultures and all that, I get it. It's aight because the artstyle and her design made her very clearly just a teenager. She looked and acted like a teen. She just had a weirdly skimpy outfit but that was it, we all saw and did that type of stuff when we were 14 if not worse.

But when you make her hyperrealistic and for some reason you choose to give her some weird gerber babyface and bigger boobs on top of that that she did not have in the movie forgive me for thinking that it looks like something Epstein would have loved on his desk.

Just adapt her movie artstyle face into a more realistic one if you really want to keep all your overpriced toys hyper photorealistic. What's the need for the weird ass face? I know they were trying to make a homage to Ariana Greenblatt I think but nobody noticed when they were making it that it would look this strange? They finished it and thought it was perfect? In fact, isn't it worse that they chose the face of a real girl when she was a kid a few years ago and played the character? What gave Ahsoka the pass was that other than the outfit all of her design was very modest and normal and even the outfit was quickly replaced as well in the show anyways. She had the face of a random normal 14 y/o and barely any chest so people wouldn't get creepy on her. Why not just adapt that og design to a "real" flesh and bone look? It would look completely different and not like you like to hang out near elementary schools suspiciously often for a single man with no kids.

Buy the thing if you want, I'm not the police or your mom, I don't give a damn. And if you can look at that ugly thing that looks nothing like Ahsoka and not see anything weird then unsarcastically good for you, but I ain't got no benefit of doubt left in me. Somebody jewish made that thing.

>>98147292
>tldr
Please tell me this is neckbeard copy pasta from plebbit being posted to prove the point

>>98146884
>I support cancel culture when it's for something I don't like it

>>98147624
>a fucking wall of text just because a character figure inspired sexual thoughts in him
Let it go, man.

>>98145770
Just started a 900xp Jedi game, the opening days of the New Republic, PCs met up after coming together to help in the assault on Kuat Drive Yards. One PC is a Mandalorian team that showed up to find and secure any beskar the shipyard still has, another is an archeologist that wants to search the galaxy for Jedi relics to rebuild the Order, the third is a pilot that crashed the assault shuttle on purpose so he has an excuse to steal a brand new ship for himself before the NR claims them all.

>>98146231
Third, non-retarded option: Red crystals are synthetic because Sith distain the spiritual journey Jedi use to build their first saber. WHICH IS HOW IT USED TO WORK.

>>98146296
>>red
No bonus from synthetic crystals
>>purple
Fast blade
>>blue
Cuts better
>>green
Deflects more accurately
>>yellow
Only appears to Jedi with extra big pp
>>orange
Flings little plasma bits when you swing hard enough

>>98146512
>Is Mauls' show worth the watch?
Yes
>Has anyone here played FFG's TTRPG? Is it good?
Also yes, if the dice don't bother you. And you can tolerate inevitable metagaming.

>>98145770
TQ: Bryar Pistol

>>98146296
>>98148273
Never got tdistinguishing between yellow and orange. they always look too close to each other color wise to clearly distinguish between the two.

Capeshit fans ruined Star Wars. They will literally complain about how they didn’t like how George Lucas wrote the characters he created and when they see Vader “aura farming” in whatever new Disney+ slop they think it’s fucking Shakespeare. Third world Invincible fans should be executed with a gun.

>>98148500
Yellow looks like gold/the sun, and orange looks like fire/Temu Sith saber.

>>98148658
Before people called it aura farming they called it something else, it's nothing new, relax.

>>98148666
yah, thats what I mean, Orange sabers either come off as red or yellow to me.

Weirdly green seems to be usually pretty distinct from blue.

>>98146296
>red
Corrupted or synthetic. Only the sith tradition can create either. only the highly force sensitive can tell the difference. The former are more attuned to dark energy and particular powers, especially that of their corrupters.
>blue
Standard. Just a good solid resonate crystal.
>green
Same as blue, higher floor, lower ceiling.
>yellow
Decaying crystal. Often synthetic in origin, or just improperly created or corrrupted by people not properly part of the sith or Jedi tradition. Becomes potentially more sensitive to and so aids in certain force manipulation as it decays, based on its degradation and use.
>purple
Someone versed in Sith teachings but still a jedi. Aware and steeped in it but not tempted by it.
>orange
Same as yellow, last surge of power before more rapid decay.
>white/gray
Ion. Training saber.
>black/invisible
Either an uber saber with the weight and heat of a thousand suns, or an illusionary catalyst that mind fucks people into believing they’ve been cut and so being cut. Basically a force dick measuring contest where you die if you lose.

Sorry for the misfire here >>98148026
Meant to (you) this guy >>98147624

>>98147292
Also isn’t attunement already part of making a lightsaber? It’s not necessary but it gives you like a +1% buff when using it, no?

>>98148730
Eh, yellow looks cool, orange looks lazy, it looks like simple fire.

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So, you have a plan to save Star Wars for me?

>>98148950
Yup, Luke uses the time travel dimension to change the past and erase the sequel trilogy, when he gets back he finds himself targeted by a former Imperial, Mara Jade, and her ally Prince Xizor. She tries to seduce him to make him open to assassination, but he dicked her so good she can't go through with it, they team up to fight Xizor and his crew of former Inquisitors.

In the sequel Luke leads a group of tweens and a preggo Mara to find Jedi relics, stuff happens, adventures, he has to fight the Jensaarai and an NR spec ops trooper/pilot that's obsessed with showing up Luke because he hates always being second best to a guy that hadn't ever been part of the NR military to begin with, along the way they discover a new source of kyber crystals since even eliminating the ST doesn't restore Ilum.

>>98148950
Christopher Nolan's The Glove of Darth Vader trilogy.

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>>98148984
Alright, anon, I hear you. Sounds like a recipe for success, so let's do this thing!
Just a few changes, though - it's Rey and Ahsoka who time travel through the World between Worlds, inquisitors use helicopter sabers and Mara Jade is played by Debra Wilson.

>>98149008
Well, we do already have space whales and Palpatine's son.

>>98149008
>Christopher Nolan
Don't let that talentless scum anywhere near Star Wars

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>>98148950
Darth Vader game just after RoTS, a galaxy spanning adventure hunting down jedi and pursuing Sith artifacts. Easy money shrimple as.

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>>98149022
You got it anon. It'll be JJ Abrams' The Glove of Darth Vader trilogy.

>>98149042
Fine with me, all he did was make a passable but predictable movie, then try to desperately recover from Ruin Johnson's colossal fuckup. Everything you hate in Rise of Skywalker came from Johnson taking a steaming shit on the plot.

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>overly specific troopers to guard shores
It's fucking retarded, I don't care what muh corruption fanon you dream up of. Time to accept it, it's retarded lore to justify new toys.

>>98149106
Yes, what kind of military would have a dedicated coast guard?

>>98149106
Stormtroopers shouldn't even be guarding anything on the tourist planet to begin with.
Andor is normally good with that, it uses imperial army more than anything else in Star Wars, but this random stormtrooper is really baffling.

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>>98149106
You now remember the traffic control stormtroopers

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>>98149113
Why do they have their own armor? Why are they right next to regular Stormtroopers?
>>98149115
Army Troopers = Beat Cops, Stormtroopers = SWAT. We see a Stormtrooper guarding a starport, as well. I figure the Empire is a lot less concerned blurring the lines between military and police, plus I still remember IMPS that had Stormtroopers be like police on long-range deployment. Even a peacenik planet like Naboo has their 'security forces' practically be both military and civilian.

Alternatively, Shoretrooper got rebranded as like the actual police units.
>>98149137
This actually kinda makes sense, lightweight armor for police work.

>>98149145
>Why do they have their own armor?
You think the real life Coast Guard doesn't have their own uniforms, bases and ships?

>>98149106
They're called that but to me they're tropical troopers, even where they appear they're alongside standard Stormtroopers. But looks like they are moreso meant to get their feet wet and be outside among the trees. Course if andor is saying they're specifically meant for shores then there's no saving the idea.

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>>98148950
Cash in on what's left of Mandolorian enthusiasm, we're going back to the past and fleshing out the Mandalorian Civil War. Animated movies with big budgets, I'm talking money that will let us match Spiderverse's production quality. Shadows of the PT plot elements, Plagueis and Sheev are making the most of the crisis, hell, maybe this is how Sheev makes his way to or first makes his name in the Senate. Padawan Obi-wan and the not-yet-Duchess Satine meet, fall in love, but their commitment to their respective destroys their chance at happiness. Raid the EU for any good ideas, Jaster Mareel will return in some capacity, and Jango must be included.

>>98149161
>You think the real life Coast Guard doesn't have their own uniforms
I was in the USCG
We got navy BDUs with a coast guard patch instead and a different cover

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>>98149106
I judge trooper variants purely on aesthetics. I've soften some on Shore Troopers over time, but I still don't like them much. Something about these helmets (as well as R1's Tank Troopers and the Death Troopers) just doesn't do it for me.

>>98149137
These guys, by contrast, look great. Dunno why they aren't just Scout Troopers, but I'll take 'em. Speaking of Scouts, I want anon's fan design of pic related to be canonized at some point, shit looks cool.

>>98149249
just do open seasons but animated, jaster mereel being a chad, montross being a cuck, tor vizsla being a faggot, jango getting fucked over and enslaved by the jedi and dooku approaching him in a final shot about the job to earn him the right to be the clone template

>>98149145
>Why do they have their own armor?
Presumably because it provides some benefits when in tropical or coastal environments. Maybe it's more water resistant, maybe the visor on their helmets helps keep the sun from shining in their eye lenses. The Empire can afford to build ships the size of Manhattan, but not produce a bunch of specialized gear?

>>98149263
>navy BDUs
>BDUs
Also it hasn't been that way for over a decade now. Navy went to blueberries then forest digicam then now blue two pieces. The joke is that the navy is as indecisive about its uniforms as a woman is about her dress.

>>98149249
>Cash in on what's left of Mandolorian enthusiasm
I don't think there is any, a mandalorian movie that is out RIGHT NOW is sitting at $248 million so far, which is not good.
I don't think mandalorians are the way right now.

>>98148950
Obviously another space opera several hundred years in the future involving the new republic, an emerging outer rim empire and the sith in the background attempting to corrupt and control both factions. And the sequel trilogies are treated as non canon

>>98149319
>Also it hasn't been that way for over a decade now.
that tracks, I got my COR in 2015 lmao

>>98148264
Man, I miss when this shit was concocted by people who actually thought about it and the implications, instead of just doing vibes-based bullshit.
>Hmm, the Sith both disdain the spiritual aspects of the Jedi's experience of the Force and lack access to the sites where Jedi acquire natural crystals to make lightsabers. It's also clear that most Sith end up with red blades. How can we plausibly explain all this?
vs
>Okay okay so, liek, the crystals are all alive okay, and they liek react to their user like those cool mood ring toys 'member those? Hah yeah those were cool, anyway so liek that's why some Jedi have different colours it liek speaks to their SOUL or whatever yeah, and then for Sith they're totes liek EVIL yeah, so they basically liek FORCE the crystal to serve them, and it goes red oooooooooohh I know we can call it BLEEDING 'cos it goes RED yeah? Wow we're fucking geniuses, got any of that coke left?

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>>98149438
If they had actually been on cocaine the results would have been better

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>>98149106
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>>98149185
Trying to make some sense of Disney's abominable Overly Specific Troopers and rejecting their retarded "everything is a Stormtrooper" doctrine is my personal autism.

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>>98146884
I thought it was obvious that it's weird because it's the sculpt of a child's head on the body of an adult woman, Probable because it saved on manufacturing costs to use a body as close as possible to the adult Ahsoka figurine body

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>>98149492
Fuck it might as well post the rest.

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>>98149492
STs.

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>>98149492
And leftovers. Obviously I haven't updated these in a while.

>>98149492
Let's not pretend it's a Disney thing. When was the last time you've even seen the imperial army in Legends? It was all stormtroopers everywhere.

>>98149519
Mate, if you're going to post such stinky, rotting bait you should probably at least do it somewhere like twatter or reddit where there aren't a bunch of fans of the WEG RPG and the population in general are too dumb to understand you're proven retarded by simply opening the wook's Legends page on the Army and looking at the Appearances section(and even that doesn't capture the countless times they're merely referenced).

>>98149492
>>98149570
Anon literally the first movie to show an imperial army in any capacity that isn't just different stormtroopers and officers is the shitty solo movie

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>>98149137
>>98149267
His chestplate always reminded me a bit of COMPFORCE with more normal shoulders.

>>98149585
True but apparently anyone who survived Solo and Andor's era of imperial army as infantry just became stormtroopers as did all new recruits.

>>98149438
You genuinely expect me to beloeve they weren't doing cocaine in the 70s and 80s?
I'm going to bed, you're a fucking mook.

>>98149702
Hippies are evidently notorious teetotalers

>>98149629
Which is stupid. If anything, Snowtrooper armor indicates that the dudes we see attacking Hoth are Imperial Army, because they heavily resemble Imperial Army Troopers.

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Just finished watching Skeleton Crew, I thought it was cute, and I hope it somehow gets a second season. With that said though, seeing Star Wars "The Goonies" really makes me want to see a Star Wars "The Mummy" that takes place on Yavin 4, where we see someone wake up the Ghost of Exar Kun and hijinks ensue. Maybe they can just redo the whole Medjai plot by turning them into Jedi. It could potentially be a cool way to reintroduce Kyle Katarn or Kyp Durron. Maybe even Mara Jade.

>>98149106
>>98149492
My favorite thing out of Disney Star Wars were the imperial army soldiers and the remnant stormtrooper concept arts of them having to make do and being very “patchwork” in their field repairs with their armor.
That’s about it for me.

>>98149967
They clearly have prop designers who want to do that sort of design work with the patchwork droids in the gotra in the mando movie, I wish we could see more of that for the remnant troops instead of all these masterfully maintained units under rich warlords, the closest was s1 of the mando with slightly dirty stormtroopers

Is there a list of everything owned by Count Dooku somewhere?
My players have basically bought his estate from the CIS in a rather alt-history version of the setting and I want to know what kind of entertaining bullshit is now theirs to legally go plunder.

>>98150039
You bought his "Estate" on Serenno? If so, then that means you own House Dooku, his family's castle/fortress. This is probably the only other place of note. https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Dooku%27s_castle_(Kohlma)

>>98149954
Mummy 4: Where's daddy?

Honestly, Indiana Jones would probably sell better. You can even bring in Doctor Aphra

>>98150064
More they effectively purchased his death estate from the CIS.
So, everything he had associated with being the Head of State of the CIS (Subject of course to them being able to actually get to it, hold it, ect).
So I've decided that includes his estate on Secundus, as well as any other holdings in the CIS held worlds. His estate on Serenno is going to be a plot point later though since technically they bought into that can of worms.

I'm looking more for artefacts or interesting bits and pieces he could've had that can become plot hooks. The Sith Holocron is 100% going to be in the pile for example.

>>98150160
From the CIS...? Do the CIS even exist as a legal entity in a post-Dooku Galaxy?

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what's the thread's opinion on SW D6 systems?
WEG SW 1e? 2e? 3e? Reup? Mini Six? Hyperspace D6? Opend6 Space?


Just saying, my pet houserules are:
-Static defenses for each attribute, total pips x 2.
-Second wild die's 1 doesn't count.
-In Mini Six, Force is a 5th attribute, compensate by giving extra skill dice at char creation, +1D / +2D is fine, +3D is a little OP but ok.
-Body Points are better than wound track, strength total pips x 4(or 5 if you want OP)
-No Soak, instead Damage Reduction (DR) = armor stat.
-Skill pips can't go over the double of stat pips.
-If you didn't declared a second action and the first action was without penalty, second action is -2D.

>>98150200
That's why I said 'Alt-history'
Basically the long and short of the campaign is "What if Palpatine failed to stick the landing on Order 66."
So, everything prior to Order 66 is as canon, everything after it has gone to hell and the entire galaxy is descending into a sort of Sengoku period where there's an Emperor but he's got no legitimacy outside of the core worlds. The CIS survived, Skywalker has set up his own warlord state centred around Naboo, ect.

So, Dooku is still dead as that happened pre Order 66, but the CIS are still a state entity, one that is fully aware that Sheev was mere hours away from tying up loose ends on them and wants exactly nothing to do with the Force going forward.

What if Anakin went to anger management instead of going to circus du soleil with Palpie.

>>98149585
I know this is shocking to the retarded, but those of us who can read enjoy Star Wars for more than just the movies. Also AT-ST driver in Jedi, checkmate biatch.

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Dont mind me, just posting peak Dark Side /fa/

>>98150327
>Most fall to the Dark Side, not for the sake of evil
>But for the style.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vtAMJBACtc

>>98148950
>whole new continuity
>a manga published by Shonen Jump
>it will have Parts like Jojo's Bizarre Adventure
>alternate between Skywalker protagonists and non jedi
>Anakin -> Nobody -> Luke -> Nobody -> Rey/Luke's kids
>get an animated adaptation with zero live action that follows the source material exactly and adds hype moments and aura
>make cheap affordable lego sets and lightsabers toys that kids can actually afford on their allowance

>>98148950
>Republic Commando 2 play as Delta squad going through Order 66 and the rise of the empire. multiple endings depending on your choices. finding Sev alive is a hidden good ending
>a return to actual space sim X-Wing/Tie Fighter games
>Mando open galaxy single player rpg where you take on bounties.
>resurrect X-Wing Miniatures you fucking bastard!

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What's the right amount of people for a "tight knit" smuggler's crew? Is this ship In Swtor, the Smuggler has a crew of 7 in this ship, even though I only see 4 beds in the crew quarters, and 1 bed in the captain's quarters. For an EotE game I'm going to run, I'm thinking of having players find the Swtor Smuggler's Corellian XS Light Freighter, and take it as their own. Despite being 3500 years old, it had illegal modifications to make it one of the fastest ships in the galaxy. I think.

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>>98149492
>>98149499
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>>98148950
Greenlight all of the vision shorts and give them their own series.
Even the shitty ones.

>>98149473
Wowie

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How do you beat a force virus?

>>98150960
Fake News

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do people legitimately not like the clone wars movie? The one with the baby hutt?

I just rewatched it and it was pretty entertaining, not great, but completely fine overall. The only stand out negative is the animation, but most of the worst of it is background stuff, for most foreground things, and especially the lightsaber fights, they are pretty good. In fact, I would say the action scenes in particular are pretty stand out. Oddly enough I feel like its one of the things that shows captain rex in the best light. In fact, both the clones and droids have some good characterization in it. The first city battle, the one climbing up a verticle pillar, obi vs Ventress, and Anakin vs Dooku are all great.

Plot itself is nothing to right home about, but anakin learning to embrace the roll of a mentor as a hot head himself is a good dynamic. And while ashoka isnt fantastic, it is nice to have that over-eager padawan energy.

Overall I think its a very good encapsulization of the clone wars as a whole. I remember there was a lack of actual front lines battles in the series proper.

>>98149954
Yah, I remember skeleton crew being pretty well done overall.

>>98151231
>do people legitimately not like the clone wars movie?
Guilty as charged.

>>98150248
>what's the thread's opinion on SW D6 systems?
>Mini Six
I specifically tried out mini six because I thought it would be more aproachable for solo play. Havent played it with a group yet since mine has a set dnd schedual, but I did use mini 6 specificly in a star wars setting for a solo campaign to test it out.

I really did enjoy it. I liked the distribution of the d6 system with pips chipping in as a nice way to introduce incrementality where a straight d6 system would feel too boom or bust. I felt like there was a good balance between chance with riskier things and being pretty secure when you roll something you have high dice bonuses with. I especially like how its combat really pushes you to fight in a more modern-ish style skirmish and cover gameplay compared to d20 style distance management and more static positioning. There being 4 defensive options plus the ability to dive for cover really gives it a more star wars blasters and lightsabers style combat flow compared to a premodern swords armor and arrow feel. Cover gives you a big bonus and flanking really exposes you. Being able to split actions is also nice, though you do kind of have to build your character with clear priorities to use it well with the -1d to each action. Its easy to make a very impotent character if you arent careful. I like the stats blocks, I find they are a nice balance between simplicity and characterful.

Seeing as you are also using mini Six, I also got the sense that it could really use a 5th attribute, but force imo is too character specific for that. instead I would personally cut Agility in two to stop agility-bloat. One that has to do with full body acrobatics and coordination, maybe keeping the term Agility, and the other to do with hand dexterity, called dexterity. Han solo is no ballerina, stepped on a twig and alerted a scout trooper in RotJ, but he is handy with a blaster and a hot shot pilot. So he would have high dexterity, but medium to low Agility.

>>98151278
care to explain?

>>98151363
Star Wars stopped for me in 2007.

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>>98151231
It's fun and full of soul. Yeah, it's junky in a lot of places, but there are many cool things about it. The series also retroactively made it much better, as there are a lot of moments that hit you in the feels, knowing what happens next. Also, Ziro is funny as fuck. Stuff like that is not possible in the current year, only Lucas was crazy enough to come up with something like it.

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Discuss deflecting lightning through crossing lightsabers in Jedi Academy.

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>>98149106
Way better than retarded Imperial Army which looks like ass
Empire should just have elite troopers be their normal troopers to show how dangerous it is, not some gay faggot wearing the AT-ST pilot uniform retconned by the same retards that thought a Star Wars mech suit was OK

>>98151453
Rey did not reflect lightning because she used two sabers, she reflected lightning because Mace Windu's ghost finally got off his ass and did it for her, because reflecting the dark side is the literal point of Vaapad.

>>98151650
If they get bored while on guard duty, I wonder if they ever reach over and hit random buttons on the other guy's panel just to fuck with him.

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>>98150960
With a force vaccine, just like pedro pascal did in the force is female and awokens. /schizo

>>98148950
Star Wars in 400 ABY, or Star Wars: different galaxy (so like Mass Effect Andromeda)

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>>98151650
I find it funny how irrationally angry you get at the mere mention of an Imperial Army. Maybe if you chilled out, you could make a coherent argument as to why Army grunts are such a bad idea.

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>>98151354
>Mini Six Combat
I like all that you mention too, I even integrate the fog/smoke/lighting cover modifier from breachworld and it increases the tactical options very nicely.

Light smoke/fog +3 to TN
Thick smoke/fog +6 to TN
Very thick smoke/fog +12 to TN
Poor light, twilight +3 to TN
Moonlit night +6 to TN
Complete darkness +12 to TN

>I would personally cut Agility in two to stop agility-bloat
I like your idea, specially when GMing, (but when I play as a character I like agility-bloat to min-max, lol). I also always thought the word "dexterity" would cover one specific field better, and the other would be agility. So one is fine motor skills, eye-hand coordination, etc, and the other is for whole-body movement.

>but force imo is too character specific for that.
My reasoning to include a Force 5th attribute while using Mini Six is not my original idea, is based on Mini Six optional rules (at p. 18), this optional rule called Paranormal Abilities in the Mini Six Bare Bones book, it is for magic users and psionics, it is basically "The Force" if playing SW, of course I limit it to SW lore.

To balance it and not make it OP, no extra attribute die are given. (also characters can have 0 paranormal D), and their skills are "quasi skills": at character creation you buy them with attribute dice instead of skill dice, they don't have sub-skills specializations, and for advancement you can buy their pips with character points at the same rate as skill pips/dice.

My players don't use it that much tho, they are the brawler type or the techie type, so they keep things simple. I narratively give them bonuses when using the force, buffs, etc.

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>>98151882
Because they look like shit? Stormtroopers are faceless elite enforcers because that represents what the Empire is, a regime which doesn't care about the individuality of the people but rather consumes everyone together in the same system of control.
Army Troopers just look like average dudes who may as well be Rebels or security staff for a corporation.

>>98146271
Baylan and Shin have kind of added orange to the Dark Side options, though that detail is also supposed to indicate they aren't Sith or wannabe Sith

>>98152228
Huh? If anything, the Imperial Army reinforces the centralized nature of the Empire. Previously you'd have a patchwork of planetary cops and some military here and there. Empire comes in, and it's all Imperial Army.

>>98151975
>players
holy lucky.
I play at the local library, so we kind of have to get our system in early cause we will be playing that for the next 5+ months. there is 1 and a half tables, one is consistant and its pretty much alays dnd, the other is more intermittent and can be a veriety. Think I played that one game with success and fail dice once thats also star wars, but d6 is more of my taste in terms of crunch to fluff factor. I might try to set up an actual session though sometime.

I like your idea about smoke, could make smoke grenades a really useful item. That paranormal section in the book is interesting, but imo, just to lessen mental bloat I just made it a normal skill. Which tbf I could see really being taken advantage of if I was a dm for players, but when soloing, I tend to have the restraint to only give force abilities to those it would make sense to have them.

I set up a mini solo scenario to test it out. I played as a freelance intel operative with some jedi training, but nearly no aptitude for telekinesis, Coran Horn style, And a Bothan FIghter pilot who knows whats up in a scrap. Hired to take out a corrupt imperial officer who was selling vacationers on a ski resort planet. Was cutting into the resort's profits so we got hired. Did some recon, gave a Imperial DMV officer a flower with a hidden camera, and got a good view of the imperial office interior and codes for the back door. Bothan saw a speeder truck occasionally coming to the office to pick up suspiciously human shaped boxes. We snuck in with the gathered intel, set up secrete cameras for evidence of the transaction, then springed an ambush during the drop off, firefight ensued, Intel officers decent shooting, a nice grappling take down, and a jedi mind trick combined with the Bothan's Great shooting and a flank did the job and took the imperial official alive. Thats where I stopped, but I think a get away chase will be in order.

>>98152586
>Previously you'd have a patchwork of planetary cops and some military here and there. Empire comes in, and it's all Imperial Army.
My critique wasn't the system, it's the design. The Imperial Army troopers look lame as fuck and don't fit the consistent, faceless and scary look the Empire should go for.

>>98152710
I prefer the version presented in Maul, where local systems have their own deal, and call the Empire if something is serious enough, and the Empire shows up with stormtroopers. Maybe some specialized units for specific things, but there is no generic Imperial Army, there's troopers, officers, and ship crew. No traffic cop troopers like in Solo, no "shore" troopers, just the standard guys, and maybe extreme/unusual environment teams (Hoth, Endor, Tatooine etc) and SWAT, the guys with the heavy repeaters, rocket launchers and sniper rifles.

>>98150290
seething about getting btfo'd
>muh ATST uniform
falls in the same category as general veers' uniform, next cope?

>>98152820
well in maul they're still prototype TKs so those different permutations haven't shown up yet
phase 3 was such a better design than prototype TK armor, yes I know it's a mcquarrie reference, it doesn't look good

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>>98152710
I beg to differ.
>>98152820
The Empire isn't the UN, it is a nation-state. It should wholly and completely erase local identities where it can. Of course, not the entire Empire is like that. The Maul planet is more like a third world shithole getting police actioned.

>>98152832
>It should wholly and completely erase local identities where it can
Which is what local authorities were afraid of in Maul, they didn't want to call the Empire because they didn't want them to set up a permanent presence.

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>>98151807
C'mon man, Mace got off his ass the first time when he whipped Palp's ass, it's not his fault that he was so into the moment that he got snuck by Anakin. If anything, if Anakin had stepped in to help deflect the lightning, and if Anakin had taken the final stroke to kill Palp, Mace probably would've formally named Anakin a Master on the spot. We could've had the future with Anakin as the future Grandmaster of the Order. Where the Council sanctions his relationship with Padme because the chosen one's bloodline should be preserved. Everytime I watch RotS, that's what I'm hoping that part changes to.

>>98152947
You're right, but the failing is mostly Anakin's, he didn't understand the Jedi's ban on attachment, if he did he could have been openly married to Padme and not had any problems. But, you can't give away the answer to a lesson like that. Yoda almost did, but Anakin was too thick, or just too caught up in his problems, to hear it.

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>but d6 is more of my taste in terms of crunch to fluff factor.
Same here, good balance, for me it doesn't feels right when a system discards to-hit rolls. And with this kind of D6 I like to use static defenses to avoid rolling-fatigue.

>could make smoke grenades a really useful item.
Yes, made me remember some scenes from SW media. PICREL

>I set up a mini solo scenario to test it out.
That sounds like fun, why did you stopped it?

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>>98152832
Balaclava does not work in SW. SW is WWII-themed not tacticool bullshit
The closest thing we got to a good Imperial Army trooper is the Mudtrooper from Solo. Not because the design is good (it's actually really lazy) but because they tried to follow the faceless grunt style for once.

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>>98152832
Gives G.I. Joe's Cobra vibes.

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>>98152977
>the empire needs to use faceless goons
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT
Also, just to rub salt in your wounds, consider pic-related. Do you even know what balaclavas are named after?

>>98150457
>even though I only see 4 beds in the crew quarters, and 1 bed in the captain's quarters.
The captain is sharing, if I know the SWTOR Smuggler.

>>98150876
>canonfags unironically think TCW Anakin is better than this just because Lucas gave it a rubber stamp

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>>98153068
This sucks lmao

>>98152975
>remember some scenes from SW media.
The OT trillogy really deserves props for how well it lays out the mechanics of things in this universe. It really conveys how things work with minimal attention. The amount of stuff that outlines how fighter combat works during just the trench run is really staggering. Changing where you put your sheilds, targeting taking a bit to take effect, crafts having different combat and flight modes, etc.
>Same here, good balance
Yah, hits that balance between crunchy enough that you can make a fleshed out concrete feeling character, but flexible enough that you can easily spitball situational things without having to think about all the run-on mechanical consequences.
>That sounds like fun, why did you stopped it?
Well, It wasn't too long ago. I was like 40 minutes in and felt tired with it so I stopped to not burn out. I'll probably pic it up when the mood and mentality strikes me. Depending on my mindset, Solo can either be an engaging pastime, or annoying, OCD irritating, busywork, so I try to play it when I am in more of the former mindset than the latter.

>>98153019
I hate that balaclavas arent socially exceptable outside of -20 degree weather. I would love to have a full face covering when its slightly below freezing without looking like a criminal.

>>98153105
If you live in the States, you really don't need to worry about it. The groids broke the taboo (though many of them who are wearing it do so because they are contemplating committing crimes that day), so as long as you don't act like a thug or a creepy sperg, you'll be okay.

>>98153157
but anon, what if I AM a creepy sperg?!

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>>98152977
Fuck WW2 and fuck "aesthetics". I want pic related, but unironically.

I want GWOT allegory, and not a hint of muh space opera, which gave us the cancer-ridden shitsteak that is the Force Awakens. And most importantly, I WANT you to be mad.

>>98153205
The PT is your GWOT allegory, though.

>>98153194
Can't help you there, boss.

That said, I got away with doing it over nearly a decade of higher education. I'm sure some of my classmates thought I was weird, but other fashion choices I made definitely contributed. Even so, it generated few comments and no bullying from classmates or harassment from cops, so I'd say I made out okay.

>>98153205
Holy shit, you are cancer

>>98153205
read Battlefront: Twilight Company

>>98153205
Anon you dont want Star Wars you want Warhammer.

>>98153205
Buddy, what you want isn't Star Wars.

>>98153501
>>98153512
I don't give a fuck. Star Wars is what I make of it. Got a problem with it? Suck my fucking cock, my son.

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Members of the 413th Armored Penal Legion operate on remote or highly dangerous worlds. Resupplies are rare, so smart soldiers learn to make do. Many kitbash their armor by scavenging from other legions who fled or were broken before the 413th arrived.
They typically act in a delaying capacity: Penal soldiers arrive en masse and stem the bleeding while the brass decide on a course of action. Due to their inferior discipline and unusually cruel tendencies (even by Imperial standards) it is rumored that the 413th are deployed to simply punish whatever world they occupy.

>>98153558
That's not really how it works.

>>98153205
Okay. But then I want a Star War version of Legend of the Galactic Heroes, where it's 100% space opera focused on epic capital ship engagements and intrigues among the naval officer corps, with none of the gritty insurgency stuff on the ground.

>>98153600
Sorry Dave, you can't police me on here. Got a problem with that?

>>98153615
You still don't get it, no one here has to do anything. No Star Wars content will ever be what you claim you want, and you can use different aesthetic styles in your own games, and it can say "Sar Wars" on the books, but what you're playing won't actually be Star Wars, you'll just be borrowing the rules do to...whatever else. No one here needs to keep you out, you're keeping yourself out all on your own.

>>98153205
Republic Commando, maybe?

>>98153589
Good stuff on that little lore blurb.
I can already see the penal legion doing things that will make dirlewanger blush.
>remnant trooper concept art.
I’m still booty blasted that those concept art designs didn’t make it into the mandalorian show.
Did they make it in the mandalorian movie?

>>98149992
How did they not have the money to make the field repaired looking remnant troopers?
I read somewhere that fan volunteers in stormtrooper cosplay costumes were needed for the show.
It’s got Disney money was there some embezzlement?
But I really find the imperial army trooper designs nice and the mud trooper variant good looking too.

>>98153737
This happened to Sharpe, way back when. With "shiny" troops you only need as many uniforms as will be displayed at once, especially if faces are covered. The same 12 guys can appear onscreen again and again. If you have kitbashed or uniquely weathered costumes then the re-use is obvious, and so the number of unique pieces needed goes up precipitously. Continuity gets harder too.

>>98153842
That might have been why the remnant trooper concept art was scrapped.
Here’s hoping the artist got good money from that art.
Was there ever remnant trooper art like that put out in the EU?

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>>98153610
I would like both of these, desu.

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>here's your handler, guys

>>98153600
That's exactly how it works.
See Rogue One and compare it with "George's personal aspirant" Mandalorian and Grogu.

>>98153971
what race? I only accept handlers after I racially profile them.

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>>98153019
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT
Faceless goons in the fantasy way retard, not the tacticool way. Star Wars has an illness with the tacticool bullshit.
Anyways, balaclavas were relatively rare in WWII, they became big later during the Cold War. I'd much rather have a gas mask than a balaclava.
>>98153205
Your contrarianism doesn't make you special, it makes you retarded. You are the same kind of person who'd want Lord of the Rings but with guns and rainbow dildos.
>>98153989
Filoni routinely ignored George, he admitted so in the very own BTS documentaries for TCW. Him ignoring what the franchise should be after that is not much of a shock.
The difference is Rogue One TRIED to follow ILM stylistic conventions even if it fumbled. Andor didn't and we got some of the most boring retarded designs imaginable. Like the Senate guards being random fucking dudes with blue shirts rather than the badass praetorian guard, because "it's muh heckin' RELISSSM!"

>>98153992
based off of the image name a cathar

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>>98152977
NTA, but George Lucas created Saw Gerrera and his partisans for his Underworld live-action series, and they first appeared in his The Clone Wars series, and a lot of them are shown wearing balaclavas.

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>>98154005
>relatively rare
I'll take your apology in whatever form is most convenient for you.

>>98154005
Woah, you mean the door guards of the new order aren't wearing the ritual garments that the chancellor's personal bodyguard were wearing fifteen to twenty years earlier? How weird!

>>98153989
>See Rogue One
That does not help your case.

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>>98154074
Onderon is such a great arc.

>>98154214
Nooo, I live those ships, they have cool beam guns, they're the most satisfying to use in Battlefront 2. The good one, not the modern trash.

>>98153205
Check out Call of Duty

>>98154005
>>98153676
Nah, it's you that doesn't get it. Your Gen X retarded view of Star Wars is over. Star Wars' own creator rejected YOU and Star Wars became for US in 1999. Now get the fuck out, because this isn't your OTard franchise anymore, and hasn't been for a very long time.

>>98153501
We don't want him, send him to Battletech or something.

>>98154503
>>98154678
OTards eternally buck-broken. Star Wars isn't for you anymore. Fuck off, now. Go jerk off to Mike Stoklasa.

>>98154649
Lol ok

>>98154678
No no, we don't want him either, send him to Delta Green, they do that tacticool shit right?

>>98154710
The Prequels were infinitely better movies than the shitty OT, OTard.

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>>98154725
That is certainly a take, whether it's born out of boredom or is a sincere point of view remains to be seen

>>98154739
stop replying to the guy rapidfire shitposting

>>98152977
>mud trooper from solo
Funnily enough I thought the mud troopers and imperial army troopers looked amazing.
That’s all I remember the best from solo.

>>98154739
He's mad because we pointed out how he's wrong and he has no way to refute it, so he just turned to insults.

>>98154684
This is /tg/ sir. They may be talking about BLKOUT at /awg/

>>98154739
>>98154747
OTrannies will never live down that their shitty trilogy is inferior, and that Lucas left them behind in the last century. No matter how many times samefagging is done, the OTard/OTranny trilogy will never be as good as the PT.

>>98154852
Buddy, Star Wars hasn't changed. It will never have the tone you want, it's been the same the whole time, not even Disney's shitty writing changed that. That space opera genre you dislike, is in everything, even Andor. Because the end of the Andor storyline is Rogue One, where a climactic battle decides the fate of the galaxy and featured a mystic blind guy and an evil cyborg space wizard that lives in a lava castle. You can try to talk shit about people who prefer the original trilogy all you want, but the franchise never moved away from it. You can prefer the prequels all you want, their tone and genre were still dictated by the original films anyway.

But I know you don't actually mean anything you're saying, you just want a fight.

>>98151650
to this day, i wonder why people want an army of AT-ST drivers thats somehow larger and more important than the entire stormtrooper corp

legion got the hierarchy right, with stormtroopers as basic units, specific-environment troopers as elites, and death troopers as hyper-elites

>>98154943
He’s baiting anon.
He will bait harder until nobody responds and he will leave on his own.
If he doesn’t just don’t respond and let his screams yield nothing.

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>>98153068
The superior Clone Wars.

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wood-stocked uzi would look good as a blaster
just need to put a second barrel underneath the first (which the EU will interpret as a flashlight), a scope that is never used, and maybe a flash suppressor

>>98155081
Yeah the one with nothing but low quality animation and five scenes that everybody remembers while forgetting the rest of the slop that it contained

>>98154943
Huh? It had the tone I want, in the EU Star Wars Books, in the PT, in Andor, hell even in Rogue One.

>>98155160
It was infinitely better than anything Shitloni's cooked up. /co/ needs to get the fuck out and go jerk off to RLM.
>>98155035
I don't want to fight, I want /co/ to leave, and I will make it clear that this thread isn't for them. I am a gatekeeper. If you don't want to talk about Star Wars as a universe here, as a setting for traditional games, you need to get the fuck out.

>>98155202
It's crazy to me that people used to love Filoni, and completely flipped on him in not even 10 years.

>>98155266
I never, ever loved Filoni. Mando S1 was good in spite of him, and because he hadn't gotten his grubby hands into it fully, yet. After he did, it's Glup Shittos and member berries galore, just like everything he's ever made. If JJ is the prophet of the jaded Gen X fags, then Filoni is the prophet of the braindead zoomers.

>>98155266
because it's the popular thing for performative "contrarians" to do right now
suck off dogshit like andor, cry about filoni

>>98155282
Filoni was always shit. Deal with it, /co/tranny. And get the FUCK out of my thread.

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>>98150327
Remember when Malak got NTR'd?

>>98155292
>Malak's a cuck
>gets cucked by Bastila with Revan
>gets cucked by a dude history books probably don't even write about
Malak's had a hard life. He should've coped by fucking Yuthura Ban or something, but prob. Revan would've eventually cucked him there as well.

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why did they call them blaster rifles when they dont have the same 1-3 profile every other rifle has?

although it seems like a necessary drawback when you have a red defense, 5-man, unit who would otherwise be able to soak so much damage

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didnt realize they had a weapon slot to take a proper range-3 rifle for only 5 points
that seems like a weird way to organize troops, because the built-in guns arent any stronger than the upgraded gun to compensate for the reduced range
so its essentially just spend 5-points to increase range

>>98148950
Competitive Nal-hutta twilek breeding and kennel club events.
Intrigue abound as well as gambling, sabotage, and other comical scummery in the world of the hutts and their thralls.

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>>98155310
It's not really a huge drawback, more of a cute customization options. It's a way to tie into their faction identity since they'll rely on their clan keywords to give them aims or dodges. Honestly Mando Warriors/Initiates look more like melee units while Fire Support squads should be the one fighting at medium to long range.
Lorewise it kinda makes sense I guess? Clone commandos ICWS is also a rifle/carbine and limited to range 3.
These Mandos use shitty rifle and can only use them at medium range when taking the time to aim properly rather than run and gun.

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>>98155266
I never liked him, always hated the clone wars, because i felt it make no sense for Anakin to have a padawan. It would have given him greater emotional maturity than he displays in RoTS. Then there's the Mortis and Maul shit that's not even worth talking about.

>>98155611
The die was cast when Ahsoka survived and went on to guest star in… everything
Like sure, I could live with the idea that Anakin had his own apprentice but she she goes to a different temple and no you can’t see her - so long as she was confirmed dead before the Mustafar thing.
But no, Trapper Wolf had to have his cake and eat it too.

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>>98155611
And all of those decisions you complain about came straight from George Lucas, the creator of Star Wars, who is the creator and executive producer of the show you claim to hate while complaining about Filoni, who was not in charge of it. Ironically, Filoni tried to oppose Ahsoka being Anakin's Padawan and Maul coming back. Only for George to shut him down, because it's his show and he decided that way. Clueless retard.

>>98155611
Honestly he's fine. He fixates on certain things and favors some of his characters too much, but for the most part he's fine. There's just a lot of autists who get this idea that something "should" be a dealbreaker and taints everything a creator does afterwards, but that's because autists struggle with understanding that people can like things that they don't, they get mad when someone doesn't agree with what they think the breaking point "should" be. Filoni's fine. He's not great, just fine. If you want to say he's actually bad, I would direct your attention to Ruin Johnson. Is Filoni good compared to Irvin Kershner? Hell no. But compared to Johnson he shits gold bricks and cures cancer with a touch.

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>>98155654
Lucas eventually said it was his feeling she survived Order 66. He probably wanted her to die to Vader, though. Which is far more poetic and powerful than getting merc'd by the clones, which is pretty hollow and pointless. World Between Worlds was a mistake, and there are many things about Rebels to complain about that can actually be rightfully attributed to Filoni. But people choose to complain about things he didn't even do on a show that he didn't even create or executive produced.

>>98155195
This you?
>>98153205
Everything you just said, the EU, Andor, Prequels, Rogue, it's all space opera. Everything in Star Wars is, there are no exceptions. So no, there is no content that is what you claim to want. What you're talking about is fanfiction that deviates from actual Star Wars to the point it's not Star Wars anymore. The closest it actually gets, is SOLO, dingus. The only thing in Star Wars that has nothing connected to the Force outside a post-credits cameo. But that's not a gritty war movie, it's a heist movie, so it's still not what you want anyway.

>>98155687
>World Between Worlds was a mistake
At the time, yes. But it's the only hope for the sequels getting trashed so I'm glad it's in there.

>>98155654
I just don't think she should have ever existed. What's more interesting is why TCW fans are falling out of love with Filoni. Ahsoka being the main character, even if over used, shouldn't be a massive deal breaker to them in my humble opinion.
>>98155666
Sure, George had plenty of awful ideas, TCW, and Filoni's execution of them was poor. Just because George Lucas did something does mean it is good. If that's the case you better prepare to defend star wars christmas special and ewok adventure.
>>98155680
This is more what I expected TCW fans to feel about Filoni. Maybe it's just Filoni fans are just no longer kids and don't care to defend him anymore?

>>98155704
>you better prepare to defend star wars christmas special and ewok adventure.
the problem with the star wars holiday special is that george wasnt involved enough
he was busy at the time and had little direct involvement in the special

>>98155704
>Maybe it's just Filoni fans are just no longer kids and don't care to defend him anymore?
Personally I think the same thing happens that always does, TCW stared out as a show for kids, which is fine for drawing in new fans, but it's Star Wars, older fans are going to watch it, they are going to share their opinions on it, and the show and animated movie were not made for adult fans. Later on it matured, but hardcore fandoms are slow to forgive, if ever. As for people who complain about Maul, tell me you're a fucking know-nothing casual without telling me, because Spider-Maul and him dying on Tatooine are straight from the EU, they just added more to the story and changed his death a little bit, Kenobi spared him, Owen Lars is the one that dropped Maul for good. And Filoni's version is objectively better. He baited Maul into using the same move he did to kill Qui-Gon, by switching from a Form 3 stance to Form 4, the same style they both used on Naboo, because he knew Maul would fall for it. That's why the fight only lasted 3 moves, it's fucking brilliant writing and people who don't appreciate it are retards.

>>98148950
Timeskip to post-PT, 150+ years
Starfighter show, SpAce Combat: X-wing vs. TIE Figher
Galaxy is balkanizing, but New Republic and New Emppire are reforming and start to fight the pirates, warlords, bandits and each other.

Use the old starfighter games as plot outlines, use all the known starfighters because they're just sitting in junkyards.
Cast can be everything, incllluding Force sensitives, all kinds of aliens, pilots can have beach episode, etc

>>98154151
The Senate Guards in the PT are guards in all the senate, not just for the Chancellor, and are direct precursors to the Royal Guard. But they got replaced by cheap blue shirts.
>>98154744
This. The guy is literally bitching that people defending the artistic style of the Prequels against Andor are OTfags? It's megaobvious bait and anyone who falls for it is a troon

>>98155455
>Honestly Mando Warriors/Initiates look more like melee units while Fire Support squads should be the one fighting at medium to long range.
locking their shooty units behind a purchase of close-combat units seems to be a way to prevent mando gunlines from forming

because 6 squads of red-defense, impervious, bucketheads lining up like the redcoats sounds like it would be so hard to break

>>98155697
No, Star Wars is everything. Andor's a gritty drama, the EU varied from a bit of everything. The only worst part of Star Wars, is easily TCW.

>>98155710
He was, in the same way he was for much of TCW, did the general plot outline and said make it.
>>98155718
>As for people who complain about Maul, tell me you're a fucking know-nothing casual without telling me, because Spider-Maul and him dying on Tatooine are straight from the EU, they just added more to the story and changed his death a little bit, Kenobi spared him
Don't seethe so much, it is good for you, and stop being stop binary brained, it is very low IQ. I can dislike Maul coming back in both TCW and EU.

>>98155736
george was not available for most of the making of the holiday special and never really worked on any part of it
the only idea of his that really made its way in was his mandate that the wookiees be the main stars

but TCW was infamously his pet project, and was was adding direct input to almost every episode made

>>98155718
I can dislike TCW, and still appreciate Maul vs. Kenobi as a great duel.

>>98155736
It's not about disliking Maul surviving, it's trying to pretend it's something Filoni cooked up. Which is exactly what this person said: >>98155666

>>98155746
No that's the wrong one. It's this one: >>98155611

>>98155741
He gave the general plot outline and delighted it to another person. For TCW he gave ideas and plot outlines and delegated it to Filoni. Yes, he spent more effort on TCW, but both are products of his creation through others. If George's work are infallible, then so is the Christmas special and ewok adventure.

rebel commandoes are now only 42 points

it feels really weird to have a special forces unit that costs less than a corp unit, while also having more keywords than that same corp unit

>>98155746
>It's not about disliking Maul surviving
Actually it is. TCW was a blank slate and didn't follow the EU and could happily override it. They choose to have him return, which they could have chosen to not do, which is one of my many issues with TCW.

>>98155759
>He gave the general plot outline and delighted it to another person
he didnt even make an outline for the holiday special
he just said to make it about the wookiees and was never asked anything else again

>For TCW he gave ideas and plot outlines and delegated it to Filoni.
he was absolutely giving notes at all steps of the process
to say he just handed outlines is just a lie, when we have storyboards that were written on by him

>>98155722
NTA, but it's blindingly obvious that R1 and Andor deliberately chose the OT style to differentiate from the 'golden era' PT look.

Attaching random lalbels to people who prefer one or the other is kinda pointless.

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playing as a waitress droid for FFG RPG, good idea or not?

>>98155770
>Though Lucas is uncredited, it was his idea to build the narrative around Chewbacca's family.
>Regardless, Lucas would not budge on his vision. The special went through two directors.
>It did start out to be a lot better [with a different script]. We had half a dozen meetings with the TV company that was making it. In the end, because of work on promoting Star Wars and working on the next film, we realized we had no time. So we just left it to them and just had the occasional meetings with them, provided them with access to props and the actors, and that was it
George won't fuck you, and I'm done with this conversation.

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>>98155781
play as twii'lek waitress instead

>>98155834
but the mono-wheel design of FLO is cooler than some alien bimbo

>>98155726
True, on paper they feel like Stormie or Clones but Impervious makes them a tough nut to crack. I think they'll perform well but we'll see. I believe the generic Mando leader/hunter will make or break the faction.
>>98155761
Yeah, but to be fair they don't really do much more than basic corps and don't fill your 3 mandatory corp slot. Giving Vets Low Profile at the same price made the comparison between them and commandos really awkward even with the difference in speed, now they feel like they work well together imo.
Plus iirc until last edition Scout troopers were cheaper than Shores and also had fewer keywords, but that feels like ages ago.
Also, nice attempt at changing the subject but I don't think this will stop any of this baiting/trolling/seething going on right now.

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>>98155857
these guys are going in my rebel army, regardless of where they fall in the meta

>>98155687
Looking at this image really emphasizes just how badly we got robbed with the artstyle they chose for Rebels.

>>98155766
TCW is weird because at the very start it was meant to be a continuation to Genndywars but it switched gears really fast
Anyways, I personally believe TCW sucks balls and it's largely Lucas' own fault. I have no issues disliking a lot of the man's own choices, including bringing Maul back despite the fact he straight up said in interviews after TPM he was chopped in half to PREVENT him coming back, something that even Filoni argued against. In many ways Lucas set up bad precedents with TCW that were followed later on by Disney, shit like the modern lightsaber survival rates are derived from late Lucas media.

>>98149106
you are a fat burguer you don't really know what a Gendarmerie is or Carabinieri those fuckers are federal elite groups guarding anything because the local forces are corrupt, they can combat drug trafficking schmucks and the next day be seen strolling around a square so please go outside and take that fedora out your butt and stop complaining about every little detail, the world is more complex than your 43' computer monitor shows you

Its a known fact that while a yellow lightsaber is cool on its own, dual wielding a piss saber with any other color will ALWAYS look terrible.

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>>98154074
>, but George Lucas created
Generic looking low-poly dudes.

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In your opinion, what makes a good blaster design?

>>98156170
>Gendarmerie
Knights after invention of steel?

>>98156251
>get a real gun
>slap a conical flash hider
>theres your blaster
the T-21 blaster doesnt even bother with the flash hider, they just removed the pan mag and called it a day

>>98156170
shoretroopers arent even solely dedicated to guarding shores since we see them in a jungle in mando
shoretroopoers seem to be more of a generic hot-weather soldier

star wars legion turns them into defensive units with an emphasis on long range combat

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>>98156270
The only problem is when you do this with a gun so recognizable that even normies notice that it's a real gun. The AK silhouette is just to iconic to really pass as a space gun. At the very least you need to remove the curved magazine and change the front sight block and/or gas port.

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>>98156219
>says this while posting X-Wing but black from Trandor
Lmao.

>>98155766
EU was never canon, and George Lucas was never obliged to submit to literal cash grab fanfiction. You'd have to be retarded to gaslight yourself into believing otherwise.

>>98156838
That was the point he was making,
>George Lucas was never obliged to submit to literal cash grab fanfiction
Exactly, worse he proceeded to do it himself by bringing Maul back as a cash grab.

>>98156921
Anything that comes from Lucas IS Star Wars by virtue of him being its creator, therefore what he does cannot be fanfiction by definition. He brought Maul back because he had a story to tell, in a show that he funded out of his own pocket. That's not what cash grab means. You're retarded and shouldn't talk.

>>98157018
No retard fag just because you lack any ability to see bullshit for what it is doesn't mean others do too.
>He brought Maul back because he had a story to tell
>muh master abandoned me reeeeeee
Very original, how interesting and unique. Except he did the same story with Ventress so that "story" was just a cashgrab.

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>>98157103
>Except he did the same story with Ventress
Except it was completely different. Try actually watching the things you talk about to not look like a retard. Cope and seethe, tranny.

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>>98157112
>Except it was completely different.
Nah it's not, you just want to gobble shit down your gullet and beg didney for more.
>Try actually watching the things you talk about to not look like a retard.
Nah I'll never watch your shitty kid show. I only know what happens cause fags like you never shut the fuck up about it.

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EUfags are like battered housewives with inferiority complex and Stockholm syndrome, lol.

>"oh, us seperatust are innocent and have good motives!"
>also separatists
>"Yah we should call our super ship the malevolence"

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>>98155160
Everyone loves the bug eating.

>>98155611
>i felt it make no sense for Anakin to have a padawan
>the Mortis and Maul shit that's not even worth talking
Yah, in terms of staying consistent with the rest of the universe he really could have done better in the clone wars, but I feel like he did good on the moment to moment characterizations and star wars "feel" without feeling clawingly nostalgic either. Like there arent too many blatent call backs, but will still put references here and there. It made good use of the characters and world elements in play, while also introducing new ones that felt pretty fitting.

Like Anikan and Ashoka are honestly interesting characters in the clone wars, but they dont make sense and arent the same ones we see in RotS. THough it did do a good job presenting Anikan as the kind of hero and friend Obi wan was talking about in A New Hope rather than the manic horny teenager he was in AotC and RotS. SOmeone who is legitamently heroic, but has a seed of darkness that is festering. DESU, I kind of prefer the representation to those two films.


>TLDR Clone wars is pretty good in itself and has a pretty authentic star wars spirit, but falls apart a bit looking at the continuity presented in RotS and OT.

Oh yah, and I just straight up agree the Mortis stuff is awful, no upside on that.

>>98157122
Im a fan of parts of both. TBQH I am an advocate of a small number of different canons. I think canon is important since it allows you to continue on with stuff that happened with some level of consistancy and create a real epic multi production super-story, but it is also nice to have a bit of freedom so that there can be alternate permutations of events. No so many large permutations that it becomes annoying to understand what the fuck the author/director/etc presupposes as canon, but like 2 or three consistent main timelines.

Am reading X-wing, and I really do like the internal politicing and feel of the EU new republic.

>>98157160
Militaries historically tend to call their ships cool, intimidating names, but they'd still be regarded as the good guys by their countrymen, absent certain circumstances.

>>98157262
Yah cool names, Like Victory, Enterprise, or Iron fist, stuff that gives off the sense of might, not stuff that literally translates to Evil. You wont see many ships called the Perfidy, Betrayer, or Lier. Thats bad juju.

>>98157406
I guess you have a point, though the Royal Navy skirts the line with some of its world war-era names:
>Furious
>Revenge (twice)
>Vengeance
>Irresistible
>Implacable
>Conqueror
>Warspite

Honorable mention to Caesar and Hannibal, sister ships named after men who inspired a great deal of fear across ancient Europe.

>>98157160
Wait until you hear about the Royal Navy: HMS Infernal, HMS Carcass, HMS Terrible...with an honorary mention of the Aussies' HMAS Vampire.

Anons complaining about Maul coming back is crazy to me. It may be stupid, yes, but I recall being a kid and spending hours in Borders reading SW comics, and at least 3 of them had Maul resurrected in some form. I think Obi-Wan fought a hologram after TPM, and the long legged reborn cyborg one on Tatooine, and then Vader fought a clone Maul in a cave or something, that was trying to take back his old spot by Sidious' side. What I'm trying to say is the idea that he could come back always existed.

>>98157593
I don't think the complaint is that TCW did it per se, the complaint is that it happened at all. Just because the idea has been floating around does not mean the idea hasn't always been stupid, as you yourself admit.

I'll confess to being indignant when they brought him back, because it's lazy writing and particularly insulting when you take a dude who got fucking bisected and dumped in a bottomless pit and bring and act like that wasn't immediately and irreversibly fatal. But I've come to accept it, and I enjoy his status within canon as an aura-farming jobber with terminal small-dog syndrome.

>>98157593
The issue is that it was dumb in both places. The EU has a lot of retarded shit that got reused by canon media like Dark Empire becoming TRoS.
Maul coming back is something even Lucas at one point knew was shit. And he doesn't add anything to the Clone Wars period or later periods, his character is weak and barely shares any traits with TPM Maul. It's dull as shit and honestly he could fucking be Tyber Zann for all I care about and he'd probably be the same character.

>>98157506
>Carcass
That would be a legitimately great name for a star destroyer. I can imagine it belonging to either a very mild, bureaucracy loving captain in an ironic manner or some bloodthirsty admiral in a too on the nose evil kinda way.

>>98156339
I never got the point of conical barrels on blasters. I know it's a thing because Han's pistol had it and OT stuff dominates forever (seriously, enough light freighter fellating, almost every bounty hunter using one is retarded) but the cone barrels are just nonsense.

>>98157103
Buddy, YOU thinking something is a bullshit cash grab, doesn't make it true, and it doesn't make something less or not legitimately canon.

>>98157774
Damnit, now I want a version of that Sneed meme but with Omeeguh choking out Hemlock.

>>98157797
Unbelievably low IQ post on so many levels. At some point in the past I'd believe this was bait. But in the current year, 4chan is just sadly swarming with actual idiots.

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>>98157885
Lmao

>>98148950
Following young palps as he fucks and sucks his way through the core worlds and kills off all the darksider competition in the galaxy
>how I met your mother (talzin)
>culminates in the Greek raggedy x American psycho with him having to put down his master like a retard who just popped a prostitute (the force)

>>98157857
Who cares about fucking canon, dumb dumb? This is the general for Star Wars TRADITIONAL GAMES, we use the universe as a background here to tell our own stories. If you want to talk about Furloni and his latest slop, just clock in on /tv/ or go get banned from /co/ again.

>>98157797
You are right

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>>98157851
It's just a flash hider, or at least that's the real-world part they used on the prop. Whether or not that makes sense in-universe with how blasters work, I don't know. Maybe if some excess gas escapes the barrel during the process of firing?

>>98149499
Thank you for these. Will be great visual aides for my players in our Imperial campaign

>>98150876
Isn't this Krayt?

>>98157797
>Maul coming back is something even Lucas at one point knew was shit
lucas' own sequel trilogy was going to be about maul, tourist

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>>98156826

>>98156826
My only issue with these direct adaptations of guns is that the large magazine isn't necessary. Maybe if it was shorter, or fatter. But it looks unnecessary.

>>98157797
Maul was unironically great in the first movie when he was clearly the only sith that genuinely give a fuck about the Sith philosophy/honor as a team rather than personal power. Then they ruined him.

>>98158502
Yes, before he turned to the Dark Side. He's a Tusken, hence his chiding of Anakin.

>>98158649
>malignant retardant post
You need to kys