Missing Wave Edition>Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>98133032 >Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread question:Who should we expect next in the Battletome pipline?
>TQThe car fuckers
Skanks and Sore-asses
I’m not quite sure how to feel about body guards or whatever it’s called when you integrate hero’s being able to join infantry units. It opens up a can of worms causes a whole new balancing issue but I guess it’s still hypothetically better than what we have now. It’s even being teased with cogfort.
>>98149572Hehehehe
Fisher Price balloon dwarfs are the worst faction, art, and models ever created in any fictional setting franchise. And it's not even close.
>>98149642Nah they’re cool.
>>98149642Go to /40kg/ if you want to rent about Votan
any of this worth reading?
>>98149704Godsbane isn't really a Lumineth novel I've only read Children of Teclis otherwise and it's really an IDK novel
>>98149704I should read dire chasm
>>98149704End of Enlightment>Children of Teclis>Realm-Lords>Shorts>Godsbane IMODirechasm has like one Realmlords short story and it isn't that good.
>>98149552>Who should we expect next in the Battletome pipline?I mean there's only really three options because we know dorfs are coming last. Just remains to be seen how exactly they slot everything together. Let's say lizards, then ogres, then giants, though it could just as easily be reversed.
>>98149893Gnoblars and Gluttons are not on the webstore anymore, so i would assume Ogors are close and might be the first ones
>>98149975Yeah, could be. My thinking was that they'll focus on 40k for a bit now and just give us smaller releases in june/july (so slaanesh and one of lizards/giants) to then bring out ogres in august or september.
>>98149552>TQSome time wasting nonsense until we finally get to Khazalid Holds
>>98149975US webstore still has Gnoblars, but Gluttons, Leadbelchers, and Mournfang sold out online
>>98144749I BELIEVE
I am once again asking for the 4e gravelords tome (pretty please)
>>98150068Here:https://gofile.io/d/96vlmN
>>98150022It's been so long at this point and they've intentionally avoided it for so long I don't really believe they can do him or the ulgurothi justice
>>98150169Holy shit that's amazing, thanks anon.NTA but is there a Warclans scan as well?
>>98150205Turnip28 kitbash?Also>filling up the faggoty fence bits on the shield with normal wood.Based
>>98149552>TQ ogres and/or fyreslayers I hopeI'm honestly tired of jamming the same 40+ fatties into my list, because everything else is too pillow fisted to even keep as a pet unit
>>98150022DoK had a release this ed. At best he'll finally be added in 5th
>>98149642Theyve got stiff competition with the fyreslayers
>>98150022There has been zero build up to that at all. If anything they've walked back any expectations of it.
>>98150169I kneel thank you anon>>98150212Nta but I'm wondering as well. Filename has the instagram of the person who made it but I don't have an account so I can't check
>>98150195here:https://gofile.io/d/tTLfu3
>>98150215Other way around
>>98149572kek
>>98150212Mordheim according to the post
>>98150271>Daemon KhulHe ascended because he stopped caring and dedicated a randos skull instead
Should I wait for the inevitable temple guard refresh for seraphon or pick up the existing kit? They're kinda old and the poses are stiff, but they've got some nice bits and I prefer the scale shields over the new metal ones, plus the kit comes with way more models than the new one probably wouldHas anyone built them? How are they compared to the new saurus, do they look okay in person?
>>98150271No.
>>98150303I think the Temple Guard as basically the same size as the old Saurus Warriors. The new Warriors are the same height, but much longer and filled out.IMO the old kit could still work next to the new stuff, but in order to get across the idea that the Guard are ore elite you'd want to put more color on them to make them pop. Patterned skin, brighter colors on the gear, something like that. And maybe some thin slices of cork on the base to give them just a little boost in height.
>>98150305If AoS was good for something, is for the Khull and Vandus characters.Really glad that this story will end before the Last World bullshit whatever it entails
>>98150303There's *some* rumours that we might get them in the end of edition release. Not as reliable as usual, but still.But even if it's bogus they're bound to get touched eventually. Seraphon is like a top 5 army in terms of popularity and it's probably their most dated looking kit (even if it isn't actually the oldest).Personally I'd hold out because I think the current saurus guard just plain look bad, but your mileage might vary.
>>98150329If they do get replaced soon the new kit won't rank up on squares, so you can always sell the old one to TOW players
>>98150332>>98150303Either way they are a good soure of bits and scaly shields with thats a preference, so i would get them while they are still being sold, and wait for the new ones if you can afford that
>>98150332Tow's increased base sizes makes it so a lot more stuff ranks up than you'd expect. I've seen a guy at my lgs run new saurus on squares. Said it took a bit of planning, but he made it work in the end.
>>98150283>MordheimI'm surprised that one is still alive.
>>98150340What I find interesting is that new chosen rank up on squares just fine, but chaos warriors are a major pain due to their capes swaying to the sides.Horses of Chaos knights also got some thunder thighs, making ranking up difficult
>>98150346Not being supported by GW is the best thing that can happen to a GW game, see Oldmunda, whatever is the name of the legacy Blood Bowl, Battlefleet, Epic, Warmaster revolution
>>98150365All of those games are functionally dead though, mordheim has managed to actually stick around in a meaningful capacity which I think is what anon was getting at.I think it comes down to basically being the /yourguys/ wet dream game combined with an excellent campaign system. Has all the freeform of AoS while still having the, let's say, 'recognizability' of the whfb setting.I do think the game itself is a bit overrated. I'm talking purely game mechanics here, as said before everything surrounding it is superb
>>98150378Warmaster is well and alive tho, theres plenty of places to get models, and rules get regular updates with new factions through the council or whatever. Imo its still the best way to play Fantasy Battles
>>98150386>Warmaster is well and alive thoAlive? Maybe. Well? Eh...Don't get me wrong I'd love to try it out personally, but most times I've brought it up to people they don't even know it exists. I'm aware there's communities out there, but y'know it's not really on par with something like mordheim (which itself is *relatively* niche compared to actively supported gw stuff).I do agree that it seems to be better at doing what whfb wants to do than actual whfb. Just a scale thing I think.
>>98150426Maybe its an exposure thing, when you are around people who play warmaster, you assume that its a more known thing etc.Unsupported GW games are easier to convince people to play than something completely new still
Is this what growing up means? Just seeing all the people you looked up to Die?
>>98150264Thanks, very much appreciated
>>98150494Ripobviously best known for his 40k and fantasy work, but was actually really influential for a bunch of AoS factions too. Off the top of my head he did concept art for stormcast, kharadrons, gits and nighthaunt, as well as for silver tower which ended up influencing Tzeentch (and later down the line darkoath)
>>98149552Soon
>>98150494F
>>98150494I guess so. I can't say this one's surprising, Blanche hadn't been in good health for years, but it's still sad to see him go.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/koczm3mk/inside-white-dwarf-525-walking-towers-and-towering-walkers/
>>98150759Was about to post it myself, looks pretty interesting. Special rules for lethis and greywater and a bunch of info on the CoS designs.
>>98150205I kinda wish we got to see some chaos ogrres in AoS. We've seen order ogres, death ogres, and obviously destruction ogres. Where are the chaos ogres?!
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>>98150971Yeah yeah I know, but you know what I mean. As an actual unit instead of glorified base decoration. Though these slaaneah guys look sick.Also the warshrine guys are mutants I think
>>98150981That asterist doing a lot of heavy lifting
>>98151131That's the roids
>>98150981>>98151131The theridons are such an odd unit. I know there's a lot of schizo thinking surrounding ogroids, kragnos, and BoC, but is there any chance these were genuinely meant to be minotaurs? They're just so similar it'd be so weird to make them a different unit.
>>98151188No, because Ogoroids already existed previously for years. Logical evolution would be “hey these dudes are cool and people like them, let’s make more”.
>>98151188>They're just so similar it'd be so weird to make them a different unit.They're a different unit so that they can be legally owned.
>>98151206minotaurs are called bullgors in tow now, that's not really the issue here
>>98151188Dude Ogroids were AoS 1e invention, they were never fucking designed for BoC.Theory that Theridans exist as a refrence to /aosg/ is more sound than them being scraped Beatsmen wave
>>98151265I'm aware of the thaumaturge, but that guy was a random one off tweentch mini for years.Idk it's just odd to make minotaurs 2 but not have them be actual minotaurs which still exist in a whole other faction.. Maybe the decision to cut BoC was made long before 3rd.
>>98151282>hat guy was a random one offNo because they made another ogroid here for STD in 2e
>>98151188>minotaursKind of, they come from Silver Tower so there's definitely a sort of Cretian labyrinth reading you can presume though Silver Tower had basically no fluff. Funnily, they are written as leaders of Beastmen (as in Tzaangors) so they were initially connected to Beastmen and it's presumable that before the final Warcry release they might've been planned for BoC, or BoC were originally going to be refreshed as Undivided StD units, etc.
>>98150494Man RIP. Tired to do a DOK art in his honour. Holy Shit watercolours are way harder then they look.
>>98149704No BLslop is worth reading
>>98150581This is going to come off a bit schizo but has anyone managed to decypher his writing in these stormcast sketches? I wanna know when these concept arts were made since it seems interesting to know for the history of AoS' creation behind the scenes. He always autographs his name in a particular style, followed by the year in the roman numerals (as you can see clearly in the top left, taken from the kharadron overlords concept art which was apparently made in MMXIV, or of course, 2014)Trouble is it's kind of hard to read in these pics, I can't even really find a "MM", but there are some scribbles which look like it could be either II or IV, corresponding to 2012 or 2014 respectively. 2012 seems the more likely option given what we know about the usual 3-4 year development cycle of models, but I remember a white dwarf interview or something like that implying that stormcast were made VERY quickly, which might even mean 2014. Still, going from concept art to models on the shelf in (at most!) 1.5 years seems blisteringly fast.There's a reddit post I found which has both concept art pieces in pretty high definition :https://www.reddit.com/r/Sigmarxism/comments/b1w85v/stormcast_eternals_art_from_john_blanch_to_now/
>>98151472I remember wasting some time on these and I only remember piecing together that one had the word altdorf erased from it
>>98151508I wonder if the original AOS was gonna be more of a "shattered world" as opposed to the alternate realm biz so you'd maybe have various continents affected by the wild magics of the avatars exploding maybe having a few powerful characters surviving as well. Like Chaos gets full power and obliterates everything, magic runs wild, and now it's up to Sigmar to build up his forces and save the people.Shit that kinda sounds like the last world...
>>98151508That's "celestial lord" not "al()dorf"
>>98151609I remember watching an interview with alan merrett about the creation of AoS and iirc he'd been working on the idea of a world set in the realm of chaos influenced by the winds of magic etc for a while. It's entirely plausible that the original pitch for aos included remnants of the Old World sucked into the magic wind realm thing, instead of effectively a new world being created out of it.In a roundabout way yeah, that does kind of sound like TLW. Only reversed; it's the realms getting sucked into a more whfb-like single world.
>>98151637I still ain't sure what the fuckin' deal is with the last world but hope it's not as stupid as the leaks made it sound.Or if it's stupid GW just goes whole hog since I feel like you might as well just go crazy with it instead of half assing it.
>>98151642Meh it does sound retarded but I never really cared all that much for the overal plot or cosmology or whatever. As long as my factions keep being themselves I'm relatively fine. I'm more worried about the possible 40kification of some factions, though I think mine are pretty safe (sbgl, idoneth, gits). Also keep Mathlann dead gw.Kind of curious about they'll handle the day/night cycle or the stars in general though.
>>98151738Has Matty been rumored to come back?
>>98151472He writes the date in Roman numerals Title, Date, Company it was for https://youtu.be/VgqfUzi8lt4?si=55fjYz-5kxkBWWCE
>>98151867There's a blurb in the idk tome about a prophecy where the realm's oceans merge into one which also mentions mathlann returning.>>98151869I'm well aware, I'm trying to figure out what the numerals in those particular concept arts are
>>98151738the plot has felt pretty half baked since 3rd kinda imploded, mind you the plot for this edition has literally just been "OH SHIT SKAVEN" and like dickall else. I'm fine with a shakeup and a more centralized setting (though I would rather just have continents of the realms get slammed together as opposed to just every realm being turned into a planet, like the idea that the realms are still there just missing chunks) Not sure on the timeskip they mentioned though, if not because that doesn't really... work here. There's too many named characters for shit like that to work properly. Most I figure is GW is just gonna make us a big planet go "oh no the realms condensed around the molten core of Malus and Sigmar did this" then Sigmar fucks off and hides since he can't hide in Azyr like he usually does
Is it true they are getting rid of sons of behemat as a faction? One thing I do hope for is making certain generic units better in other armies. It used to be worthwhile taking loons even if running trolls, but now it is kind of a meh unit for them.
>>98151970>Is it true they are getting rid of sons of behemat as a faction?Where the hell did you hear that? No indications of that as far as I know
>>98151970>One thing I do hope for is making certain generic units better in other armies. It used to be worthwhile taking loons even if running trolls, but now it is kind of a meh unit for them.If we got something on par with the anvil of apotheosis for foot heroes to be able to customize them a bit more instead of making each hero the "I do one thing" guy or "I do one thing and also am a Wizard (1) "
>>98151950>then Sigmar fucks off and hides since he can't hide in Azyr like he usually doesThis is actually a good point. Sigmar being in hiding is kinda necessary with the new realm arrangement, especially with him not having a model/rules.
>>98151970i havent heard anything indicating that. only big shakeups coming for armies that i've heard of are ogres are getting a refresh and losing some of their shooting units and creatures, and fyreslayers are getting rebranded and expanded into some kind of more general purpose dwarf faction
>>98152005I figure that's just gonna be how it goes for a bit, since I seriously doubt they'd kill Sigmar in any meaningful way. Based on the leaks it'd be like Archaon fighting him and then saying he won or Sigmar just bails on the fight and goes elsewhere.
>>98152028>rebranded and expanded into some kind of more general purpose dwarf factionyou got that wrong, fyreslayers stay fyreslayers, they're just going to share a book with dispossessed like ironjaws do with kruleboys
>>98152028>fyreslayers are getting rebranded and expanded into some kind of more general purpose dwarf factionI wouldn't be suprised. Them being esencialy "that one flavour unit from fantasy but the entire army" got bored fast. Aldough I wish IDK got more units or just a refresh. Because they feel a bit forgoten.
>>98151970Would be dumb as shit considering after beastmen the SoB were one of the actually unique factions in AoS
>>98152086Theres plenty of stuff you could create with Fyreslayers, Sparta cosplayers, Valkyres, Droth cavalry, a flamethrower warmachine. Imo they should've forgoe the Chaos dorfs and give their shooting units and the bull to them
The wiki had great discoussion Granted I still think 1d6chan kinda sucks but...I just found that exchange funny
>>98152113Also Holy moly the "Last World" bs has been present 6 years ago.
>>98151970You're getting sons of behemant confused with sisters of battle. >>98152086That pic is some insane cherry picking lmao.
>>98152128I really don't understand the hate for AOS
>>98152178>You're getting sons of behemant confused with sisters of battle.
>>98152188It's gay & shit
>>98152255:(
>>98152086>thing I likedescribe every detail and pose>thing I don’t likemake sweeping generalizationsFyreslayers have been disappointing but come on
>>98152188It’s just people who are more interested in gatekeeping than good models and gameplay. Nobody played the fucking Brettonians but now everyone pretends they did and cared deeply about the lore so they can be part of the in-crowd that was into the older thing
>no Nagash edit yetYou disappoint me /aosg/
>>98152086The point behind this image is largely correct (dorfs have more visual variety than FS & KO) but the examples are retarded>book of grudges Lmfao
>>98152086Fyreslayers have Carynx instruments and Sutton Hoo masks, on top of everything else they have. Everything WHF was taken, expanded, and split into the two Duardin armies
>>98152671>quarrelers get put in the "forging and smithing" category because their standard features an anvil>the literal FS oven or the KO dude with an actual furnace on his back don't
Also funny because even though there’s less descriptors, the AoS circles are at least trying to do something unique. The WF ones are just the list of traits and adjectives Tolkien wrote for Middle Earth dwarves with zero new ideas. The range sucks dick but hammering the sigils of their fallen god into their skin to channel rune powers is the first new idea someone has had for fantasy dwarves in like fifty years.
>>98152762I think "blackpowder weaponry" can hardly be described as a "design inspiration" yeah.That being said I think it's fair to say that old dwarfs managed to contain 3 pretty distinct general 'aesthetics' under the same roof:>celtic redheads>norse/anglo-saxon more generic dwarfs>more techy muh cogs engineer dwarfs (with gyrocopters probably being the most out there unit for whfb dwarfs)While in comparison both fyreslayers and ko only really have 1 major aesthetic each (firey celtic/malaysian dwarfs and flying steampunk dwarfs respectively). Those individual inspiration are probably a bit more nuanced than the whfb ones, but again they have 3 distinct ones instead.
>>98149572I am an ass man so sore asses.Also Man I have a lot of lizards.
I feel like aos has been kinda undoing its scale creep. For some reason things look less bigger and somewhat more...reasonable? Idk what word im looking for. Things however just seem less exaggerated for better or worse. Of course we still have things like the cogfort, but the 4th edition releases have just felt odd altogether.
>tfw LGS already had a quarter of the Warhammer space for AoS and now half of the AoS space is now Horus HeresyBeing a fantasy guy is suffering
>>98151425Cool stuff anon.
>>98151425its pretty good for an outline. Severed head could do more detailing, but it at least got me to notice the fat snake...butt? do snakes have buts?
>>98152065...yeah, thats exactly what i just said. the army will be rebranded, it wont be called fyreslayers, it will be called something like kazalid empires or some shit, and it will be expanded to include other elements as well as fyreslayersyou call me wrong and then agree with my statement lol
>>98152899Tbh looking at the edition as a whole and the upcoming relaunch gives me the impression, they've never really meant to put much effort into it.>Start the edition with a mass model culling, and continue to do it with every faction release.>Arguably a bigger focus on spearhead over the main game.>Not really a clear story focus, upcoming GHB looks generic as fuck but that's par for course for the ghb.>Probably about a year away from 5e at this point and no campaign book announcement yet.>Many neglected factions for decades get additional units finally, gives me the impression they're trying to clear their remaining production backlog before focusing on the game's new direction.>Low effort tomes are the biggest tell tale sign. Don't give a fuck if people say the latest ones have been better, they are a shadow of prior edition tomes.Gives me vibes they wanted to get all the bad PR out of the way before launching the revamp.
>>98153039Ah, another X of Y faction, wonderfull
>>98153062I'm convinced Warhammer (GW) is just a method to sell miniatures at above premium prices and the rules are just a background convenience to fuel a "reason" for TTG playing adults/rich kids to buy them.
>>98153039I think there's a bit of miscommunication going on here, you mean Fyreslayers (the army/book) will be expanded and rebranded, but anon interpreted it as fyreslayers (the actual guys) will be rebranded, which is not the case. They'll stay fyreslayers, they'll just be joined by other non FS dorfs.You're both right, in a sense.>>98153065Probably be Khazalid Holds. X of y isn't that common outside of chaos honestly, only dok and sob. The more stereotypical AoS faction name is the [adjective][noun] [noun][verb]ers, or any variation on that
>>98153116Is khazalid even a word present in the Aos setting?
>>98153142Yeah it's the original dwarf empire present during the age of myth that was destroyed during the age of chaos if I remember right. Splintered into the KO, fyreslayers, dispossessed and helsmiths
>>98153104Always has been
>>98153116>[adjective][noun] [noun][verb]ersTrue, still dumb desu, most of them dont even need that.theres no reason KO whouldnt be called Kharadrons, IDK Idoneth, LRL Lumineth, only ones i could forgive are SoB, CoS and the chaos boys
>>98153142Yeah like >>98153162 said it's basically the AoS version of the karaz ankor. It's also the name for the overarching dwarf language.I'm actually wondering if the holds in question will be retaken old Khazalid holds or just the Magmaholds of the FS now letting in normal dwarfs or something. Probably a mix of both.
>>98153104This has literally always been the case. Tabletop, lore and all secondary media are glorified marketing tools to get you to buy plastic.
>>98152950>>98152972Hey thx. Also Yea I did it very quickly and very in the "spirit of the moment" as I read the news.
>>98153104They are and always will be a miniature company first and foremost. Hell, the miniatures preceded warhammer. They were already producing them for other games and realised it was probably better to not be dependent on other people and their systems, so they might as well create one of their own.
>>98153116right fyreslayers the guys will become a sub element of a new "dudes of dwarfism" soup book, kind of like how troggoths are a sub element of the gloomspite book.specifically though, i do NOT think its going to be a warclans situation where they are two separate armies in the same book. i think its going to be more like ogres, gloomspite, or soulblight where you have multiple different elements grouped under a single cohesive roster and all able to be fielded together, with subfaction traits that emphasize one type or another.
>>98152128Holy shit can the date of that post be confirmed?
>>98153195the 4th ed core rulebook drew a whole bunch of abandoned dispossessed holds all over all the realm maps with their own unique faction iconi bet that was a precursor to whats coming
>>98152188Grogs, also i think AoS suffered alot from keeping the legacy stuff around instead of focusing on the new, I would much rather they make FS, KO, IDK expansions than Chaos dorf for example
>>98153301I agree I expect it to be closer to a mawtribes situation than a warclans one where you need a specific AoR to even play both sides of the book together.There will probably be an AoR (or two) focused on only fyreslayer stuff but on the whole they'll function more like one coherent army with two flavours.
>>98153375Fyreslayers should have been a Custodes style army, when you just field 5 half-gotreks, and then some chaff for the mass
>>98152113I'm going to own the libs by not supporting GW and instead only buying TOW minis alongside 40k Take that woke leftists! Go woke GET BROKE
>>98152188i heard they killed total war because henry cavil wouldn't let them put gay black trannies in it age of smegmar is just everything wrong with the west
Finally got some paint on him, I'm gonna put some water texture on the magic effects so hopefully that doesn't fuck everything up
>>98152188Half assed loreCame in after the End Times (technically not the fault of AoS but it’ll always leave a sour taste)Forced diversity in presented charactersFrom what yall say here, the books are largely ass List building currently sucksThese are (almost) all negated however by just pretending games are set in the old world (easy to do with my Ironjawz)
>>98149552>TQWe know (thanks to credible rumours and leaks) that the Kurnothi are coming by the summer of next year.
>>98153531>Forced diversity in presented charactersReally only became a thing in 3rd edition2nd if you count women>Half assed lore"I dont know what it is, but i imagine it this way and i dont like it">books are largely assratio is roughly the same as 40k i would say, just with less bolterporn (they suck differently)
>>98152188End times seethe+undeniably the most corpo of all of gw's settingsMakes for a potent combination.
Redpill me on the CoS battletome. I was looking through and it looked like a lot of the stuff that was formations got moved to unit abilities. It looks like the army got more usable but way more complicated. I was thinking of picking up some gallants to act as an anvil unit but the steelhelms can make people attack them which is interesting? I was on the fence about selling my army and getting out of the game but I wanted to wait for the battletome to see. Unfortunately 500 points or so of what I have are the wizard carriages which probably got squatted, right?
AoS models shit on everything else GW has ever done. Don’t know why people care about anything else. Swearing off the game because the better looking rat models now come from a different fantasy place in the backstory that doesn’t actually mean shit is a high level of autism even for this hobby
>>98153588>different fantasy placeDidnt GRH literally move Skavenblight before it turned to Blightcity?
>>98153587I've heard people say it's good but it does seem like they have a million things to keep track of.>wizard carriagesYea got legends'ed but are still fully legal and all that till next year.
>>98153588Lol you have to remember that around 75% of the people weighing in on any warhammer related "discourse" have never touched a model in their life.
When do Christmas boxes start getting announced/teased? Do we expect skaven to get another box or can we see helsmiths getting that slot for chaos?
>>98153651October usually I think it'll be helsmiths or nurgle for the chaos slot. Thing is they've been handing out battleforces like candy this year tooKnowing gw they'll give sylvaneth another box including drycha and multiple treelords
>>98153651>Fighting skaven all day is tiring, cant stand to look at them anymore, i wonder whats for dinner
>>98153531>Half assed lore>literally got a 10 volume set of 300 page RPG books expanding the lore of a single realmabsolute secondary detected
>>98153587Yeah, it's abit too much to keep track of when before you just had the same style abilities simply baked in to heroes. Also going to warn you that while gallants are some of the best kits in the game, they prolly have the worst rules in the army.
>>98153723Quantity does not equal quality
>>98153773If your complaint is "underdeveloped", yes it does.But do you have any particular complaints?
>>98153802He told you, the complaint is that regardless of how much is pumped out; it's all half-assed. It's not AoS specific problem, but just how GeeDubs operates.
>>98153878> it's all half-assedin what way?
>>98153897don't bother asking, he's only parroting what he saw on discord
>>98153802My complaint is it feels half assed. You’re not gonna reason me out of an opinion>>98153878Correct. It’s also evident in 40k>>98153911>people can’t dislike the thing I like for their own reasons>it must be Le Discord Group! Such evil doers!It ain’t that deep, I assure you
>>98153953>it's half assed>well what exactly is half assed in your opinion>i-it's just half assed okayreally not beating the allegations here lmao
>>98153963Ironjawz lore is basically ‘you know the basic part of civilization for other people, like animal husbandry and smithing? Orcs just punch it instead!’ And also ‘waaagh led by boss x has destroyed city y’. I am however a secondary because I don’t play games, so I can’t beat those allegations
>>98154023Thats like... THE ork thing, the fun part about them is their legends and believes
>>98153531>From what yall say here, the books are largely assThey're not really any better or worse than Fantasy or 40K books. GW is consistent in their slop, if nothing else.
>>98153953Nobody said you can’t feel that way dickhead. But you’re gonna get called a shitposter if you don’t even have some basic reasons beyond IT SUCKS
>>98152086>picrecthat image really does sum up the pseudo intellectualism of tow players in a single image loldrinking......dwarfs
If they do some kind of khazilid lord on a shield I hope it's fucking huge and on a 160mm with like 20 dwarves holding it up
>>98153613That does actually explain a lot. It’s essentially Bronies arguing the depth and lore of MLP
