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>>98154823>What are the things that makes a warhammer 40k art piece a good art piece?Doing something slightly new that other art pieces haven't done. Doesn't need to totally reinvent the wheel but should not be image #1929838 of Primaris Intercessor In Single Colour Unadorned Armour Needs to be immersive and cool looking, or silly where appropriateStay lore accurate and reasonably on model, with slight room for artistic interpretation No SJW shit, no AIslop except maybe as an assisting toolJust be good art in general, with a consistently stylised or realistic art style, good colour composition, good proportions, etc
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU WORKING ON? POST MODELS NOW
>>98154849Damn gotta find his little beard piece wherever it went
>>98154844>carving out any caveat for slop at allspit
>>98154849And these termies
>>98154844For bonus points, a really good 40k art piece expands into the lesser known parts of the setting and gives them life, expanding on the world without breaking its themesThere's one edgy 40k art piece I saw here that's really stuck with me with horrible scenes from hive city life, e.g. lynch mobs stringing up mutants. It took the logical conclusion of "bloodiest regime imaginable" and ran with itOn a non 2D art note I also really liked the Necromunda FPS, it depicts every little mundane aspect of hive city life right down to the huge piles of paperwork in an Administratum office and the workers slaving away in Basedlens Viridian factories to fill shipping containers of corpse starch, which then get thrown into a crevasse because someone forgot to turn off the production line
Picked this up recently. Excited I found it
>>98154857I would consider using it to inpaint/erase, or upscale something you're photo bashing, as acceptable and not too different from using the "fill" tool in MS Paint, but that's where I draw the line
>>98154844What is a good “nugw” era official art piece that you think checks all the boxes of your post?I read your post and I agree with it all.
Repostan the collage
Let Chaos idols take this thread!
>>98154866>There's one edgy 40k art piece I saw here that's really stuck with me with horrible scenes from hive city life, e.g. lynch mobs stringing up mutants. It took the logical conclusion of "bloodiest regime imaginable" and ran with itIf you can find it please post it.>necromundaIf you’re actually referring to the fps game and not the turn based one then maybe I’d say they both somewhat do a good job of representing the atmosphere of the underhive.Has there ever been a story of a guard regiment moved to an underhive for any military objective related reason?Also oddly enough video games tend to have good music even if they are terrible games.Is that with kill team that got taken off steam?The rest?Both necromunda games?Has any autist compiled all the soundtracks of every Warhammer vidya game including the bad ones and the ones that got taken off steam?I need some music for when I paint.
>>98154426Does anyone have a pdf of the Reign of Iron book?
>>98154823>What are the things that makes a warhammer 40k art piece a good art piece?Nailing the aesthetics. The appeal of this game is, mostly, aesthetic. Painting your minis, seeing them on the table, the entire rules, they are all in service of the power fantasy of /yourdudes/ doing whatever it is that /yourdudes/ are meant to do.Note that be aesthetic I don't just mean art style. I mean the atmosphere, the subject and composition. A good 40k piece has to immediately feel like 40k.Take the image you posted. The gothic buildings in the background as well as the obvious futuristic crusaders immediately tell you what kind of setting this is. The whole painting is framed by this dark and overbearing smoky sky, where explosions and fire take up most of the middle. There are hundreds of men all piled up fighting over a giant mount of blood, rubble, and their fallen comrades.The nature of the setting, characters, and and the battle is immediately obvious. And it just feels cool
Thinking about using some sacrosanct stormcast bits to kitbash with emperors children, mainly just heads. I think there are some passable female heads in here, so I could probably turn the flawless blades into femboys, maybe giving them womb tattoos is an idea as well. Also maybe incorporating the actual helmets onto noise marines as well? Idk. Also trying to figure out how to make a sorcerer for emp children with one of these bodies too.
>>98154876>rat>fag
>>98154890stormcast heads are tiny compared to marine bare heads
>>98154888Also, David Gallagher's art is underappreciated. I only ever see the same few pieces from him posted.
>>98154849He's a little sloppy but I'm working on it. I am no professional.
>>98154823F
Do combat squads have a marking? I imagine they have markings of squads I through X, but when the two split, are there like X-1 and X-2? I don't recall reading anything about it in a codex but I could've glossed over it.>>98154927Good looking gent
>>98154849Working on my corsairs. Pretty happy with how the power sword is turning out. Photographing black minis is impossible though.
>>98154942In the 2E codexes for marines and the divergent chapters the answer is no but that the guy with the banner (the squad leader [not to be confused with the sergeant]) leads the combat squad. Realistically he'd be like a corporal or something but rank minutia like that isn't a marine thing imo
>>98154942No, units of 10 splitting into two units of 5 is an operational gimmick aimed to adjust to the current battlefield situation - it doesn't alter the organisational structure.
>>98154849not really working on anything after finishing up these. my thunderhawk is somewhere over the pacific right now and that is what my mind is focused on, getting ready to mod that.
>>98154958>that is what my mind is focused on, getting ready to mod that.Can't wait to see it
>>98154942Not really, it used to be a thing way back in ye olden days with banners and markings, but I don't think they actually flesh any of that out anymore.
>>98154888Well said anon
>>98154955>>98154957>>98154962Gotcha, I won't worry about it then.
>>98154849Just starting with the base layer on some lychguard, but maybe I'll switch over and do my BT Marshall in JB's honour.
>>98154959thanks anon, I'll be basing it off this old ass sketch of an inquisitor's gun-cutter. obviously removing the main gun is part of it, but also scratch building the nose and cutting up parts of a blackstar for cool bits.
>>98154967If you want to get into the uber autism of chapter/company structure, check out the old second edition codexes, they're a treasure trove for this stuff that I also eat up
I was thinking of a daemon price whose form is a flower made from hundreds of its bodies as it looked as a mortal, inspired by this pic (might be AI or ai touched dunno but its cool trippy imagery that inspried me)But I'm worried having some daemon prince who is motionless like a plant is at total odds with what daemon princes are as evil daemons actively leading dark armies for their god. Thoughts?
>Finally managed to turn 9th edition basic rules into a raw .docx fileJesus, what a hassle. Nevertheless even a small milestone is still a milestone.Are you working on anything hobby-related that is not building and painting?
>>98154985Give it tentacle-like roots so it can move.
>>98154823>What are the things that makes a warhammer 40k art piece a good art piece?It still needs to look like bashing action figures together.
>>98154993fair point, but the crhacter of the daemon prince was that it is some mad prophet who predicts the future, but is highly schizophrenic and babbles nonesense from most of its heads and prone to bouts extreme emotional switching. So you have to sit and listen to it crying, raging, babbling to try and find some truth. I dunno might work better as just some type of Chaos Spawn than a full daemon prince. It's just useful enough to tolerate the time you need to appease it.
>>98155001How about his main flower-body being planted on a very specific soil transported in the flagship while his splinter bodies act as his drone-avatars and commanding Chaos Champions?
>>98155002That's an interesting idea. Would the splinter bodies be smaller flowers or just like, his normal body? Obviously I like anything that would make it more plant like, so individual 'prunings' that are just one or a few of his body being planted that grow into other flowers would be really creepy and strange as daemons should be.
Any other dwarf niggas here? How do you do your ironkin domes? Is it inaccurate to give them different colors?
>>98155008I think they should be more human-like to actually perform their combat-oriented tasks but nothing stops you from tying them up in a unified aesthetic by making them share 1-2 common elements related to the main body. Perhaps they all should have helmets or shoulder pads shaped like the main body's flower petals? Possibilities are endless.
>>98154875which one was your favorite, anons?
>>98154891>rag
Hopefully the DP cost of the chaos detachments you need to take to use daemons will be cheap. I can't see them cost that much since their benefits are situational.
>>98155048>frag1-800-Come-On-Now
>>98155016>Is it inaccurate to give them different colors?Dont see why it would be, they're your models after all
>>98155016I love your paint job and choice of paint colors.If you’re still here what paints did you use and on your basing please?
>>98155046Reviewing the entries is contrary to the collage spirit.
I really don't need another army but those orks look really good and more marines never hurt
>>9815484990% done with a psychophage (Need to paint debris on base and fumes from stacks as well as touchups.) Assembling Cthonian Earthshakers.
Was there ever a non-Jump Pack and non-Termie profile in vanilla CSM or SM range that let you field a full unit of nothing but double-lightning claw Marines? You used to be able to op out from Jump Packs for you Vanguard Vets, is that correct?
>>98155152Fairly sure veterans in 4th (and likely beyound) could take crux terminatus, which let them pick whatever in the arsenal
>>98154849
>>98154823I like orks :D
>>98154985Cool art, where is it from?
>>98155190cute
>>98155016Votann are all about "hand-craft a dude for this one specific task" so just homebrew that onto the fishbowls somehow like they've got different optic hardware for their needs.
>>98154873If you've ever seen the 40k calendar it ticks most of those>>98154879Darktide has you battling Traitor Guard regiment in the underhive, and a great OST as well, although I don't personally recommend buying it as Fatshark is owned by a Chinese internet surveillance company now (TenCent)
Newfag here, building babby's first army currently When do we find out points values changes?Can they change the loadouts of sergeants for intercessors/assault intercessors?I have about 9 more muhreens I can build - should I build some different loadouts in case?I've built a bolt pistol/power weapon sergeant for one Ass. intercessor squad, and one power fist/plasma pistol Sgt for another, and just saw a video which mentioned something about Ass intercessor sergeants losing their plasma pistol, did I misunderstand?
Did the aircraft rework make Ork flyers good or am I being a retard?>wait for a good angle on a priority horde/vehicle target>drop a dakkajet/wazbom on its ass and merc the thing in a single activation>disregard if it dies to counter-fire because it traded already and lol ork points investment
Will votann get a dreadnought equivelant at some point?What about a knight equivelant?
What do we think of the new Vanguard Vets?
>>98155260>dreadnough equivalentI hope>knightLet's hope not
>>98155264the pushfit are shit, hopefully the multipart will only be mediocre
>>98155264I bought two boxes of the current version just to be safe.
>>98155260One can can dream.
>>98155264>built all of mine with inferno pistols and hand flamersrip me
Why can’t GW write a good ruleset?
>>98155285Because their good game designers keep leaving. It's GW's fault.
>>98155285game is secondary to the hobby of minis and painting
>>98155285If rules are bad, you can just change the rules yourself to be more balanced if you're playing with friends
>>98155285because GW is a model company, not a games company, silly.
>>98155314GAMES workshop
>>98155285because at the lead of projects there aren't competent people but people that have been connected with the company the longestbecause the company is selling too much to risk making changes too drastic, even if they could be good, so they only do very minimal shiftsbecause the rules are to be written with the lowest basic consumer in mind and cannot be complex, or require additional tools or hobby work
>>98155285Because they do not need to. People buy the miniatures anyway.
>>98155320They still sell games. >>98155285They sell good rulesets. You as a player might think they are bad, but they as the salesmen would tell you they are great rules: because they make you buy lots of miniatures. Whenever you look at wargaming rules by a company who also sells the models for the game, you need to keep in mind that selling as many models is their biggest motivator. So rules are written with "sell many models"-focus first, and "is it fun?" is only asked as a secondary objective. - Some games and rulesets can achieve both, and others can't. But that does not necessarily mean they are bad rules for the company that makes them.
>>98155285Poor balance equals more miniatures sold
>>98155320Yes, GW argued in court they are a miniatures company, not a games company, during the chapter house case.
>>98155285Brits aren’t capable of making good games. Leave game design to the Asians.
>>98155194I got it from pinterest, 99% sure its pure ai but based on the artstyle of Gustave Doré, who did all the super famous depicitons of Dantes Inferno and biblical scenes
>>98155358Name one good asian wargame
>>98155285Because bad rules sell better. 40k was never a good game - even pre-5e editions were okayish at best compared with other well-written games. Bad games get a lot of traction though, much more than good games. You barely see people praising great games compared with the constant flood of more-or-less unhappy opinions.
>>98155367Obsidian protocol is a wargame I’m closely keeping an eye on, granted it’s Chinese. Also wasn’t battletech an Asian thing at first?
>>98155358>Leave game design to the Asians.I think you meant Japanese.Chinese can only make casinos disguised as games, and South Koreans can only make grindan simulators. None of the rest of the continent has made vidya of note.
>>98155376>Obsidian protocol is a wargame I’m closely keeping an eye onThe question was to name a good wargame. Is it a good wargame or not?
>>98155361I don't think it's AI. Look more like a collage.
>>98155376>Also wasn’t battletech an Asian thing at first?No.
>>98155376I'm not saying Obsidian Protocol is bad, but its not out yet, so what exactly makes it good? And more specifically, what makes it better than anything from the UK?
>>98155381>vidyaWe are not talking about video games. Warhammer 40k is not a video game, so whenever we discuss "games" in /40kg/, we are talking about wargames. And if the answer to >Why cant GW write a good rulesetis>Leave game desgin to the AsiansThe context is pretty much very clear that its about rulebooks for wargames, not video games from asia.
if i could only afford one, do you recommend an exocrine or a tyrannofex?
Kinda slow recently. Maybe decalfag really was like 50% of all posts each thread.
>>98155460the tyrannofex is cooler
>>98155469It's entirely possible if you also count the retards shitposting at him. Not complaining though, usually slower thread equals better quality.
I'm thinking to build some shanty town terrain. Something more vertical. Can you give me any material/guides/ideas to do it?
>>98155168howd you achieve the blends between the yellow and orange? looks great
Ordered enough things from a store that they sent me one of those generic intercessor painting demo sprues as a gift. Which is good because now I have a victim for the primers I want to test out.Do the beeg battleforce boxes come out anytime besides christmas?
>>98154849These guys. Hopefuly I'll be done for the collage.Unless we're doing blanchitsu like that one anon proposed last thread.
>>98155434I just gave you the benefit of the doubt thinking you wouldn't be retarded enough to suggest that the Asian continent are masters of tabletop boardgame design.
>>98155518Collage anon last thread said this month is Blanchitsu
>>98155235Guise?
>>98155518It's your call of quick and nimble and/or Blanchitsu.>>98154677>On that note I just found out about John Blanche's passing. I think we should have "blanchistu" be an additional optional theme this month in his memory. Hope that's cool with everyone.
>>98155530Lmao, well putting my harlequins on the back door again. Maybe I'll cook up a blanchitsu harlequin somehow
>>98154823>What are the things that makes a warhammer 40k art piece a good art piece?you need to have everything cranked up to 11. thats it. thats the only requirement. drawing space marines? alright, those should be the most heroic, desperate last stand, bolters blazing chainswords revving emperors chosen heroes standing in the face of oblivion space marines ever.drawing the imperium? cool, show me the hyper techno medieval europunk meatgrinder cybernetics with castles and ships so large its difficult to comprehend how they even exist while untold billions march their streets as humanities wretched squallor clogs every crevice of the galaxydrawing eldar? i want gleaming gemstones and impossibly beautiful alien architecture, a landscape dreamlike and organic yet hauntingly artificial, a world and a people with such poise and grace that they flit through the skies and dance on the tips of blades just whatever it is, make it the most it can be. a lot of the new art, especially the primaris promo art is just so fucking tame and flaccid, here's two corporate products in a fistfight. it lacks the detail, the scale and scope, the excessiveness, the over the top bombastic and all encompassing awe and horror that 40k is meant to inspire
>>98155016I just do them in boltgun metal. Yours look good though. I really like the black one.
>>98155469For every decalmutant post there was like 3-4 dudes dogging him lol
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98155544nothing quite illustrates the loss of ability to portray that "crank it up to 11" factor in my opinion than stacking an old rendition and a new rendition of a similar scene next to each otherthe new stuff is so god damn clinical and clean, you can practically feel the suits standing over the artists shoulder breathing down their neck "make sure it looks like the product. make it on model"
>>98155569In your anus?
Dark Eldar women owe me sex
>>98155580100%, there's small attempts to getting back to the old wild messy/filled with small detail look. Pic related, but now that guy doesnt make art anymore and is the director of mini development. Maybe if we get refreshed/redesigned daemons we could get some really cool shit
>>98155587in a way the decline of 40k mirrors the in universe setting, of the old civilizations being the shining peak and the modern version being decaying, full of ignorance, forgotten techniques and lost artironic
>>98155599>>98155580The new art looks like it was done with contrast paint. Lost all vibrancy and color for a more "smooth" finish.
Is dark mech more advanced than admech or are they more regressive?
>TQYou need to do something different.Why should I look at your artwork? What's special about it?If your artwork is just a picture of a miniature, it's pointless. If your artwork retraces what's already been done but worse (like >>98155580), it's worse than pointless.Warhammer art pieces are a window into the universe, and I don't want the window to show me a concret façade, I want the window to show me a forest far away after the hills, beyond the ruins of an old windmill.
>>98155624>advancedIn what aspects? Demon fuckery and forbidden (xeno) tech? Yes.
>>98155460The Casino Cannon brings something Nids badly lack. The Exocrine is nice and you'll want it too, but on the Tyrannofex that big gun will be a game saver (if you're lucky)
>>98155624Why's she doing the 6 7 gesture?
>>98155624I always thought that like CSM, they are poor equipped and worse supply lines that they compensate with daemons.
>>98155637This can be one aspect, but at the same time, they have no artificial restrains. They would openly experiment with xeno tech, fuse demonflesh and literal demons into that, and combine it with a demolisher cannon or a bolter. And sometimes, the end result might actually work.
>>98155624Demon engines>Da Vinci designsSimple as.
>>98155632Just curious if they’re technological ceiling is higher than the imperiums, I’m not expecting them to compete with something like Eldar or necrons.
>>98155152Both flavors of command squad could>You used to be able to op out from Jump Packs for you Vanguard Vets, is that correct?Correct
>>98155646Well, its not said they do not use Da Vinci designs. They could do both. >>98155647Their ceiling is absolutely higher, because the dogmas of mars hinder free thinking, and free research. Their stuff should be more wacky, weird and unique.
Idk if anyone here gaf, but some guy at my LGS made a 11th edition cheat sheet which I thought was pretty useful. https://artificialanaleptic.github.io/WH40K11thEd.FieldManual/
>>98155624>Is dark mech more advancedno
>>98154823Does 11th still have the Battle Ready 10VP?
>>98155624I hope they keep the Silica Mutus if they ever come out.I like the idea of spider robots with synapse.
>>98155530Correction, blanchitsu and/or quick and nimble
>>98155624Don't know if more advanced (considering the can use Xeno shit and demonic stuff they should be) but at least a lot more creepy.
>new detachments don't have their DP cost or dispositions in their entries.So GW is keeping those for the MFM then, eh? I guess that means they plan to change and adjust both of those as they go.
>>98154849Now that defilers make emperors children a functional army I actually want to play them
>>98155624After 40 years of being totall ignored in setting its hard to say. Individual forge world rulers in admech probably have some of the most advanced tech in the setting, that can rival dark eldar and necrons and other super advanced races. But its all hoarded away and secret because their whole religion is hoarding knowledge. Darkmech is probably the same, hoarding great daemon binding techniques, AI, captured alien AIs, daemon Ai fusions and tech they just invent themsevles. I do think dark mech should have scary freaky shit never seen before when you face them, which is quite demaning creatively because they should have so many tricks up their sleeves you don't see the same shit twice
>>98155700>I do think dark mech should have scary freaky shit never seen before when you face them, which is quite demaning creatively because they should have so many tricks up their sleeves you don't see the same shit twiceThe problem is, GW will settle for one theme for them, out of the 100 possibilites. Similar how AdMech is DaVinci styled, or Genestealers are all Miners. For sure, there might be some forge worlds with Da Vinci looking vehicles, and for sure many Genestealers settle in mining worlds, but its not 100% of them. And the same will happen with DarkMech if they ever get a miniature range. And sadly, since 30k already has some stalk tanks for them, this direction is no longer available for 40k. So they will find a different look for them.
When do you think gw will pay people to test their game
>>98155708>And sadly, since 30k already has some stalk tanks for them, this direction is no longer available for 40kThey'd have a different design (probably following the same fleshmetal design as the daemon engines) but I doubt they'd get cut entirely.
>>98155708thisalso the line will be tiny (1 walker 1 transport 1 "tank" 2-3 different kinds of infantry and some characters3 years later they'll get a another bunch of minor characters and maybe some jump infantryBut we added the defilers and forgefiends to the codex so you can just paint those in dark mech colors!
>>98155708Sounds awful as fuck ngl, specially considering the vast universe of possibilities "body horror", "monstruos machinery" and "corrupted technology" open for a range.
>>98155708>GW will settle for one theme for themThey're theme seem to be snails, molluscs and sea creatures like that. eyes on stalks seems to be something they've settled on for them, so expect their designs to start from there
i really love how the new ork designs are all in on the bullet belt aesthetic
>>98155728>They're theme seem to be snails, molluscs and sea creatures like that.Has there been new art I'm unaware of? Or is this based on the Legions stuff?
>>98155739Im not a fan but im not really a big fan of green niggas to begin with.
>>98154849starting to regret my choice to do nmm on this model
>>98155743The legions stalk tank and the Negavolt cultusts both have eye stalks >>98155685the two blue rounded pipes in his hair are his eyes
>>98155748looks like mustard.
>>98155748Looks good to me at least. Very ncie job on the blade so far.
>>98155739yeah, it fits the dakkadakkadakkadakka-orks
>>98155753>the two blue rounded pipes in his hair are his eyesI see, and now I take a closer look at the stalk tanks I can see them amongst the claw tendrils.Honestly if they keep channeling 'machines from the matrix' energy I'll probably be a day one buyer.
>>98155748ope
>>98155777It's probably too much work at this point but you should've added some blue hues to the shadows instead of going pure black. The values and blends are good though.
>>98155775fair, personally eyes on stalk give me the worst ick for some reason and would kill my interest in collecting them. Its not cool to me just sickening and repulsive, and not in a fun way like nurgle or slaaneshi torture is
Rolled 4 (1d6)>>98155708Roll 1d6 and pick your Dark Mech Aesthetic!>1. Frankenstein Biopunk>2. Faceless Dieselpunk>3. Jules Verne Steampunk>4. Rusty Martian Raygun>5. Geigeresque Clockwork>6. Porcelain Plates Insects
>>98155791>personally eyes on stalk give me the worst ick for some reason and would kill my interest in collecting them. Its not cool to me just sickening and repulsive, and not in a fun way like nurgle or slaaneshi torture isI'm prepared to accept I'm the weird one for liking this kind of fleshmetal bodyhorror.
>>98155794Of all the flavors the worst one...
How do you feel about painting your dudes as one of the official Chapters but giving them custom squad markings and numbers? I want to paint my small 1st Company army as the White Scars 1st Brotherhood but I am not a huge fan of their squad markings. I think they would benefit from a bit of variety, namely by adding crescent moon and stars icons. I think that would fit the theme and save me from painting those fucking zigzags.
>>98155794>Geigeresque ClockworkNot the biggest fan of clockwork type aesthetics, its a thin line between that and full blown steampunk which is too strongly associated with millennial quirk chungus epic sauce narwhals bacon at midnight shit for me to ever like. Geriger bio mechanical, where biological stuff is grown to fill technological roles, like the space jockey is fucking sick and something I wish darkmech used
>>98155016I do Vallejo Metal Color Silver and then glaze a bit with Akhelian Green contrast to make it look like a glass dome.
>>98154849Finally finished up all smaller Forgefiend subassemblies, gonna start working on the body now
>>98155544Good post. >>98155624I think dark mech are most likely like this:>You have no restrictions on your tech development>you have access to demons and literal magic>In theory, you can do whatever the fuck you want>you have unlimited power of science and magic>but Chaos be Chaos>last week you were halfway towards developing the recipe for cloning Horus, but some dipshit Khornate barbarian rampaged through your laboratory and killed all your test subjects>You made the ultimate Giant Enemy Crab, but a Slaaneshi came along and fucked it for massive damage>You made a Nurgle-empowered demon which proceeded to turn on you and give you SUPER HEMORRHOIDS. you had to spend all year self-medicating>Right on the moment of your greatest bio-mechanical triumph you had spent weeks creating, Tzeentch thought it would be funny to turn all your new warriors into Chaos Spawn>You can't get your factory workers to show up to work, because they're busy enjoying their escape from the rigid authoritarian lifestyle of the Imperium and can't be held down>You don't have access to the Adeptus Mechanicus's vast interplanetary logistical network of ships and factories; only whatever you can scrounge from recently conquered worlds that haven't stopped burning yet, and Loyalist tech which has a large hole blown through the middle of it >The most you can practically manage is to magically graft a bunch of demon tentacles onto an old Chaos dreadnought and call it a dayJust look at these guys in pic related. You think you could get them to sit down for even an hour and learn about soldering, and the difference between ohms and watts?
>>98155811Chaos is one hell of a ride uh? Even when you are a super genius mad scientist
>>98155811i can fix them.
>>98155811I imagine much like the Admech they prefer lobotomizing their workforce into servitors rather than learning managerial skills.
>>98155827There's one big issue with a lobotomized workforce: they tend to get drool in the keyboard when you're trying to get them to write scrapcode
>>98155839I imagine they would have a similar set up as deldar Haemonculi and wracks. Anything technical would be left to trainned dark tech priests and people trying to impress the boss to get taught shit
>>98155739what is this adorable little fellow?
>>98155846Bringing up Deldar leads me to another great point I forgot.>Raise up second-in-command, Sneaky Vilius Scumm, who shows promise at doing the more technical parts of your job>he stabs you in the back the second you turn away>the Chaos gods fully endorse this behaviour as consistent with their organisational core values and Mission Statement>He becomes your successor >He raises up a new assistant, Stabbicus Backus>Rinse and repeat >Meanwhile no actual work is getting done from all the constant scheming and backstabbingThis is particularly prevalent in Tzeenchian hierarchies
>>98155855The cutest squig in the universe
Do you think dedicated transports will be good in 11th?
>>98155864If an Imperial Noble kept a tiny little squig as a pet would it spread ork spores and doom his planet to have random ork bandits popping up?
>>98155863Skaven behavior fitting for Chaos.
>>98155846With the same pitfalls of having to watch your underlings for the slightest hint of betrayal.Which is of course why you keep the best tech heresy looted from the Vaults of Moravec under lock and key.
>>98155869Hopefully because such heretical act must have serious consequences, Emperor protects.
>>98155867The disembark changes don't look goodReeks of a balance change done to get people to drop transports and buy other models to fill their role
>>98155877What's heretical about it? You don't think nobles keep pets?
>>98155867Probably not for 1W armies with the new Hazardous rules killing 33% of their occupants if they are destroyed or combat disembark while engaged and leaving them with new persistent Battleshock. Not to mention deadly demise hurting the occupants now.2W and 3W units will still like them though.
>>98155867No
>>98155879i have never known how to not see them as a waste of pointsextra movement that gets you killed just as much as it lets you reach your enemieswhen you can just bring more guns to shoot them more wherever they are
>>98155881Yes a space dog or genetically engineered eagle, not a mutant spore monster.
>>98155872>>98155863Chaos is capable of producing long term loyalty between overlord and underlings. Otherwise they'de be no traitor legions or black legion. If fucking world eaters can have set leaders darkmech can. If anything they should be too loyal, each dark tech priests has his cult of underlining waging war on rival tech priests
>>98155892>>98155884Jesus Christ, doesn't this just kill Dark Eldar as a faction?
>>98155897How exactly does one tell the difference when picrel is the most domesticated animal in the Imperium?
>>98155869a single squig likely wouldn’t cause any trouble. it simply isn’t be able to spread enough spores to cause an infestation, and its even more unlikely because the noble will keep the squig indoors where everything would be regularly cleaned, so even if lone spores could grow into orkoids, they would be immediately destroyed by routine cleanings.
>>98155898Black Legion is a prime example of my point, they are constantly fighting other Chaos warbands to try and bring them into the fold, Abaddon regularly fights upstartsIt's not that Chaos can never get anything done, but infighting, treachery and general retardation does hold them back from their full potential (even more than it does for the Imperium)
>>98155869yes, but also no
>>981556246....7.....
>>98155902this is the equivalent of someone in 40K asking how someone during M2 is able to tell the difference between a cow and a goat.
>>98155260If Squats get a Knight instead of a land train there will be a riot.
>>98155016dwarf nigga here, I use Warplock Bronze
>>98155260>Will votann get a dreadnought equivelant at some point?yes, and it will be a callback to the first dreadnought design
>>98155376Battletech was westerners buying anime art from a distributor that didn't actually have the rights to it.The other big Japanese wargame, Gundam Senki, was an adaptation of Mekton II.
>>98155431Obsidian Protocol is out but its not. Very weird. A bunch of kickstarter orders finally made it to shelves so people are singing its praises but those all sold out within like a month so now everyone's waiting for the post-KS 2-player starter set which doesn't look like nearly the same deal.
>>98155855Looks to be a mole squig
Does anyone in the Imperium know the Xenos created mankind? How would they react if they knew?
>>98155929So did she name her chainsword Heidi? Or is her name Heidi and she's just putting her name on her gear so all the other Inquisitors know this is her chainsword?
>>98156002Fake news, Heretical thoughts, to the pyre!
>>98156002>Does anyone in the Imperium know the Xenos created mankind?not many, no
>>98155264>no flamer pistolswell there goes one idea for an army i woulda bought them for
>>98155637>half of the mechanicus belongs to them>doesn't have to fund a billion worlds
>>98155895Depends on the faction. Votann are pretty transport reliant since they have 5" move and short ranged guns.
>>98156074>>98155278Relax, it's just the rules for the mono pose kit in the Box. They will get their full rules with the multi-pose kit and the Codex release in a couple of months.
>>98155624I think it depends because they can just do what they want but they have to deal with daemons in their stuff plus general chaos shenanigans.
>>98156098Flashbacks from when my chaos kept getting shit taken away from 3rd-5th edition and found it in the loyalist codexes along the line....i guess loyalists wont get the chaos treatment
>>98156106I remember wanting to start a CSM army after looking at the 3rd edition codex only for the 5th edition codex to completely strip the faction bare, it was heinous.
>>98155667wheres hidden?
>>98156134>5th edition codex4th.
>>98156145Was that the 4th one? This was around 2009, I could be mixing up my editions big time.
>>98156148>>98156145Its the deadtimes that made me leave. I tried to come back in 8th/9th and I was discouraged again.
>>98156156Yeah that's what I did too, I was fed up with the CSM codex and the IG codex wasn't as great. I came back in 8th because my favourite faction got an army, but they turned were pretty quasimodo in terms of design. At least the models are great.
>>98156148CSM didn't have a codex release in 5e. There was the 4e that fucked it all up. Next codex came out in 6e.
>>98156164Yep my editions are completely mixed up then, could've swore that was 5th the whole time.
>>98154942I’d like to encourage you to come up with your own squad system markings. I run 5 man ultras and have a should pad color system for ranking in unit that’s all headcannon anyway. It helps me recognize the sgt and is a fun in my head narrative
>>98156002The Old Ones took a part in raising them up from apes but didn't create them.Sauce: lore i saw somewhere else and cannot find
>>98156033Killing Heidi?
>>98156051And those that do like Cawl, how does this affect them?
>>98156203Nah. Humanity is the final curse of the Old Ones
>>98156211it doesn't look like it does
>>98155794In my perfect world they would look like some horrific cyborg shit like the movies Virus or Frankenstein's Army
>>98156230That's a fucking sick way to describe the human race in universe. I wish the more in teh know xenos characters like Vect. Necrons, Eldar who study at the blck library would just refer to humanity as the Old Ones final curse.
>>98155046The Gue’vesa tank is really cool
Nice to see that they could pump out one anemic paragraph for John Blanche.
>>98156312They didn't do one for Ansell so its something
>Beastmen being removed from AoS caused such a big reaction that even 40k players all heard of itWhat would cause an even bigger reaction for 40k then? Dark Eldar now a Craftworld Eldar detachment? Necromunda being destroyed?
>>98156318I guess this is the new guard after all, a new era or whatever.
>>98156321femspace marines. Space marines going extinct except for csm
Word Bearers killteam soon.
>>98156321Good. Fuck them furries.
>>98156321I'm 100% sure the rightful retcon of Custodes, Grey Knights and Deathwatch as standalone factions would do, Imperiumfags whine too much.
>>98156321Beastmen never have been popular, honestly i wish they take them out of Thousands sons too.
>Like the silver, cyan, and light green on Alpha Legion>Like the Hoplite helmets of them>Will have to likely buy multiple of their heads to create an entire army of Alpha Legion with it thoughWhat's stopping GW from making Alpha Legion and Word Bearer unique models or upgrade parts for this since they've done it with Night Lords, Iron Warriors, and Red Corsairs?Speaking of these parts, is the only way to get a whole army with those unique designs for Night Lords, Iron Warriors, and Red Corsairs is buying the Combat Patrols?
>>98156343popularity?
>>98156321We had ours, it was the Squats.
Has anyone tried one of these things for mold lines? It has a thick zirconia blade so it's easier to use, lasts longer, and is harder to maim yourself with.
>>98155801Just do what you want, i know things are getting more homogenized but the core of mini painting is customization
>>98156002>comical tree-beasts>that was before the God WarSorry, but all this is effectively retconned when GW decided it would be cooler to set the War in Heaven 60 million years ago. At best you could claim the Old Ones seeded life on earth and that eventually evolved into mammals, primates, and humans.
>Roboute Guilliman (pronounced Ruh-BOOT-ay GIL-li-man)What the fuck.
>>98156375bri'ish
>GW has deal going on where if I buy 3 of any of these items on this table, I get all of it 50% off>There's two Battleforces of the Red Corsairs, a Battleforce for the Emperor's Children, a bunch of Spearheads, so e Killteams, and other shitShould I do it?
>>98156395no
>>98156370The figure of 60 million years is the same back then and now. Look up when the first primates appeared on Terra.It was 60 million years ago
>>98156395>a bunch of spearheadsDepending on which ones they have I'd just pick 3 of these
>>98156395You mean your LGS, right?And yeah. You can sell what you're not going to use.
>>98156395WHICH WAY CHAOS MAN?>crack fiends, /mu/ audiophiles, and stick thin metrosexuals>FUCKIN' [PIRATES]
>>98156416https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQRLk0QrbEkPrecipice is so cool. Shame it will never get used outside the Blackstone Fortress game and GW has memory holed (delisted) this video
>>98156425hasn't precipice been destroyed in the last act?
>>98156416whoops didnt mean to reply >>98156425
>>98156415No, actual Games Workshop.
>>98156425Howd you find this video? Did you just have the link saved or did you know a way to watch unlisted videos? There's so many vids now unlisted I wish I saved
>>98156321I think most of the 40K community expects all the Eldar ranges to be merged eventually. There wouldn't be that much outrage except from a few small players of a nobody faction and some scalies still still expecting exodites to be a full range all on their own
Human faction for this feeling?>Fuck the Imperium>Fuck Chaos>Fuck Xenos>I do whatever the fuck I want, damn to hell everyone else
>>98156462Your dudes, whatever secret micro empires rogue traders have set up and kept supplied hidden from the Imperial tithe system
>>98154849Still the chinork warkopta project. Last couple days have been spent detailing the turbines. At this point I think I am settled on doing a combo wheel + skate landing assembly, I had forgotten that the Chinook had pontoon attachments for its landing wheels so having skate still feels appropriate.
>>98156467I thought Red Corsairs and Night Lords are this though?
>>98156462votann
>>98156477no, they're chaos worshippers and have xenos friends
>Chaos Spawn constantly getting sold outBut why though? Does the model need a refresh too?
If I were to buy the Red Corsairs Battle Force, what should I also buy to make it 1000 points? Would Huron and his gang make it over 1000?
>>98156511Because they're useful and 6 different armies can use them even though they're ugly as FUCK. They definitely need a refresh, but they're also the easiest model ever to kitbash or proxy.
>>98156511They're the oldest models still sold by GW right, mabe a bit younger than the atrocious chaos biker models. They're refresh is long overdue
>>98156462
>>98156528>rightwrong
>>98156404>here's your Old One creation, bro
>>98156440Nta but you can sometimes still find links from other websites to the original videos
Why did Red Corsairs flop but the Iron Warriors sold out like hot cakes?
>>98156524The Lords of the Maelstrom battleforce box plus Masters of the Maelstrom (with Huron) make 950 points, you can make up the rest with enhancements
>>98156462Inquisition Ordo Hermalexenos
>>98156524It’s all infantry so I would get some demon engines and/or vehicles to have a more well rounded force.
I hope we get some cool stuff for admech in 11th.
>>98156591I want a techpriest seers' council, they could be a kill team and could split up into a bunch of characters for 40k.
>>98156511Most chaos armies being able to use them just leads to lots of people wanting to pick up a box or two. Not only that but the spawn box has tons of left over stuff after you build them. If you want a whole bunch of extra spikes/tentacles/whatever for kitbashing the spawn box has plenty extra chaosy bits that are nice to have on hand. Plus for being such old models I don't think they look that bad personally. Updated models would still be nice though.
>>98156591same but I still need to get the heavy skittles and that tech priest lady first
>>98156477red corsairs definitely aren’t that. their leader is a servant of chaos now, and they employ the help of tarellian dog soldiers. night lords are a bit closer, but still aren’t really. the problem is that chaos worship is so prevalent among traitors that outright spurning them is pretty much a death sentence, so they still have to play nice with them, and because they let chaos worshippers get their foot in the door, there are many night lords in majority agnostic warbands that worship chaos and spread it around which further complicates attempts to distance themselves from chaos. and they are also liable to dabble with xenos because they are so undersupplied.
>>98156579Would a Helbrute or Chaos Rhino/Land Raider work?
>>98156601I like the heavy skitties but I wish they modeled a big gun on the alpha given it's part of their wargear, guess I'll have to figure something out.
>>98156602> liable to dabble with xenos because they are so undersupplied.I think you meant to say, Nightlords are just bros who easily make friends with others.>Deathwatch killed loads of our xenos friends>Raid the fortress and literally kill them all
>>98156602>and they are also liable to dabble with xenos because they are so undersuppliedSo Dark Eldar then as they got a whole ass section in Commorragh dedicated to Mercenary work.
>>98156606Weah why not, but a rhino's more for just moving dudes around, not a good damage dealer. A helbrute or land raider can be great for damage though.
>>98156528Pretty sure the Falcon Grav-Tank is the oldest model still in production.
>>98156462A rogue GSC planet?
>>98156607Not him but ye hastarii are neat. But I do wish they had something like heavy bolters as am option it would look cool.
>>98156626they fuck xenos alright
>>98156462Renegade marine chapter.And no, not all of them are chaos worshippers, and neither do all of them become that.
>>98156628I was hoping they'd have options too, maybe like some big phosphor blaster but they do have mini ones on the anti-vehicle weapons at the very least.
>>98156626That's basically Twisted Helix. The read between the lines is that they're still puppets of the Tyranids, they've just convinced themselves otherwise, but as far as the attitude they present it's basically, "humans can biologically be more than they are, and genestealers are a tool to that end."
>>98156646>And no, not all of them are chaos worshippers, and neither do all of them become that.literal denial
>>98156646name one that isn’t like that.
>>98156670Ashen ClawsKnights of Blood
>>98156567Which fits the comical tree creatures bit.
>>98156567>>98156679What's funny to me is that there's some scene with C'tan that said it "recognized" humans as Old Ones creation.So either the C'tan is mistaking humans for eldar, possible since it's been repeated numerous times in the fluff how humans and eldar are remarkbly similiar. Or the C'tan has become senile as fuck and hallucinating humans as some hairy squirrels.
>>98156709or the ctan knows what the creations of the old ones have in common and look like regardless of their distant originsand that ctan in particular was fully aware of everything going on in the galaxy despite being locked in a basement
>>98156679But not the "Old Ones created mankind" bit, not the way people like to regurgitate it as if humans are in the same boat as Eldar or Kroks. It's just stupid; are we really going to sit here and say that they created cute little tree rats just to check the sci-fi trope box of an ancient progenitor race being responsible for EVERYTHING in the modern setting? Why? How does the Old Ones jacking off in the primordial soup on earth improve the setting?
>>98156736This. They should do "Humanity are actually Old Ones" instead. ESPECIALLY "Human cavemen created everything and are the Old Ones all along" Could you imagine how awesome it would be in 40k if they revealed the Old Ones were human cavemen? We could have fucking psykers with power clubs riding dinosaurs. Human Lord Kroak equivalents beating people with stone axes and spears made of necrodermis or some super metal.Even better, make them Space Marines.The War In Heaven was actually a battle between several Chapters and Warbands of time-displaced Space Marines and Chaos Space Marines sent sixty million years into the past. These battles were witness by the primitive Aeldari and Necrontyr, who the loyalists and traitors found and gang-pressed respectively. At this time the Aeldari were much more similar to Humans physically, which led to the Loyalists seeing them as abhumans instead of xenos. The CSM simply didn't care and enslaved the Necrontyr.To this end it becomes evident that the Old Ones and the C'tan are not actually xenos, but are Marines deified by the primitive xenos.Biotransference is, in reality, a Warp plague concoted by Vashtorr and unleashed by the Traitor Warpsmiths upon the Necrontyr.The Aeldari were tought to harness their Psychic potential by Loyalist Librarians, while the Aeldari 'gods' were merely the various Marine Captains as well as the leaders of the attached Imperial forces.Could you imagine a 40k where everyone is a Space Marine? Every human. Every Xenos. Every Chaos God and Daemon.You know what I want to see? Some VSM kills an Eldar or Ork. He grabs the head for a trophy and underneath, he finds somehow that there's a Space Marine helmet underneath the skin. Then he looks to his men, realizing he can see vague Astartes patterned shapes in their skulls. He looks in the mirror, realizing the same. Then he one day through some method that let's him see his patron Chaos God.The Chaos God is a Space Marine too.
>>98156462That's the iconoclast route in the rogue trader videogame.There's multiple places like that in the setting, the galaxy is vast enough that a rich noble, rogue trader, rogue warlord, etc could feasibly create a little empire if it's small enough and self-sufficient enough to not be noticed. If you go rogue, the imperium destroys you, but it stands to reason that some people could remain hidden. In the rogue trader videogame, if you go this route, you have to fend off a retributive campaign from the imperium, and that can go a few different ways. But in some endings, you succeed, and you get your little free-thinking utopia (and some variations therein where some things aren't so great).
>>98156763We get it, you played Halo.
>>98154823I haven't played since 7th. What's this about the fucking Emperor reviving? The primarchs are bad enough, but now the CENTERPIECE dead skeleton guy too? Come the fuck on.
What do GSC's need?
>>98156736>in the modern setting? this shit has been the case all along, anon, since 40k was made connected with fantasy, because fantasy had old ones that made humans.you just don't want to understand that the old ones are characterised as being the kinds of fuckos who plan multidimensional millions years long topplings of dominos such as throwing a random artifact at some cavemen to kickstart their cultural development only to grab a piece of a telescope they would construct shortly before their civilization collapses thousand years later.
>>98155497Base bright red, then orange highlight, then yellow. Choose a very bright yellow, is so sensitive a thin orange wash will blend it together.
>>98156774>What's this about the fucking Emperor reviving?Nothing, people are delusional and addicted to teasers to the point they hallucinate them or think anything and everything is foreshadowing.
>>98156763>Stone Age MarinesInteresting. So do they make weapons and tools from defeated enemies? Do they ride mammoths?
I now realize that Exodites will be Space Amish and never cavemen no matter how many dinosaurs they have.
>>98156736Yes, that's what the lore says. The Old Ones seeded mankind on Earth, but died before they could fully uplift them from animals to humans.Look here. The mural is a depiction of the War in Heaven. Notice the human baby among the created reaces of the Old Ones.
>Old OnesNo.>New OnesYes.The story should be about a fight to elevate yourself to become the new Old Ones.
>>98155264About as boneless as can be
>>98156839xenology isn't canon
>>98156774It's probably horseshit, but it's also something that you can't put past GW anymore, because they're fine with slaughtering every other sacred cow
>tfw you discovered a surviving Old One>he starts telling you about "Older Ones" who made him
>>98156805They have magic-tier foresight powers, but somehow still got wiped out by a planet full of chemo patients and some spooky brain bugs from the warp. This shit is so gay.
>>98156774They'll bring him back, something will happen, and then 40k will be rebooted as "Age of the Emperor". Get ready for Grand Alliance Order with eldar, the imperium, and necrons.
>>98156858It is, but it's an in-verse document.
>>98156869It has oldcrons in it
>>98156865It's all according to plan. The villain WANTED you to beat him. He planned all along to be fed dogshit then tied down and being raped by genetically modified horse-bulls.
>>98156783industrial rig repurposedd into combat walkers and skimmer dropships/gunships
OLDERcrons have arrived.
>>98156878A Necron that talks. So it fits better with the newcrons
Men of Gold > Old Ones. Gold Ones > Old Ones
>>98156881Never, ever.
>>98156864>343 Halo lore
>>98156783an armored limo or at least the access to the ride of commissar gravesfat patriarch on a bio-throne (if we don't want it to be at the exclusion of the normal patriarch then we can make it a matriarch inspired by the xenomorph queen, but I say it has to be fat/preggo nonetheless)brood brothers leader on a genestolen horsegenestolen houndspurestrain princelings covered in jewels, silks and other offerings hybrid piloting the power loader from aliensogryn aberrants because the normal aberrants are fun but underwhelming twisted helix special character because it's the best subfaction and the conversion of a carnifex turned into a giant genestealer cult mutant ride has lived in my head for yearsghosar quintus special character that plays on the imagery of the king in yellow because he was the first patriarch and because since his cult was destroyed he can be imagined as wandering around to do shit with anyone's else cultsspecial character that references paul atreides and rides a giant worm (giant worms were the first real host of the genestealers on the moons of ymgarl)subterranean drill transport because gw took away the drill scenery piece but it goes well with the theme of the cultsarvus flyer that instead of working as a normal transport has the allotment for a container full of troops or a big fucking clawaccess to the ambotsaccess to the slave ogrynsaccess to the malstrains and brood scumsaccess to the hive scumsaccess to the ridgehauler
>>98156887What happened to the teaser in the Cawl vs Fabius novel about Chaos cyborgs? Anything came out of it
>>98156895Reminder that across Eldar history, the race that spawned Slaanesh must've had at least 1 member who was depraved enough to rape an Ork.
>>98156899Rent free
>>98156865>>98156879They were dunking on the necrons until the enslavers showed up. Enslavers are basically the hard counter to psykers.
>>98156905we definitely need some kind of super abberant that stands alone like a screamer killer on a 100mm base
>and the conversion of a carnifex turned into a giant genestealer cult mutant ride has lived in my head for years
>>98156678Ashen Claws fit the description to a T, so that’s actually a good example of a renegade that fits >>98156462 question. Knights of Blood is a bit more complicated though because they were outcast from the imperium for being too unstable rather than any outright betrayal being done, and the KoB still loved the imperium despite their renegade status, so they don’t quite fit.
>>98156783I'll be happy with a datasheet for the brood brothers that enables the BB detachment to not be shit.
>>98156864If it makes you feel any better, they planned for Precursors to uplift a fraction of humanity in the ancient past for before Halo 3 was released. A small group tried preserving this CE era idea. But they never stuck with any idea before abandoning it.It wouldn't make sense anyway because their original idea was to have it connected to Marathon and John being a recurring reincarnating hero. They should've kept the part where Mark 4 cyborgs are aliens from millions of years ago though. It would've made a far more interesting story about how humanity enslaved and robotized their uplifted cousins.
>>98156942god I hate coomers so much
is Dark Angels terminator spam fun?
is there any particular reason why GSC cant take abhumans in their brood brothers? i dont feel like the abhumans of a planet would be any less susceptible to the cult than any normal humans. especially ogryns who, even if not turned, would just follow the orders of some turned officer anyways
>>98156608>supposed to be the cream of the crop of marine veterans>get wioes out by Night LordsXenos hunting must make you soft
>>98156954>is there any particular reason why GSC cant take abhumans in their brood brothers?no, gw is inconsistent, the current ogryn kit already works perfectly as long as you use the masked heads for them
>It is with great sadness we learned of the passing of John Blanche. >John was an artistic powerhouse whose unmistakable style was a unique lens through which many of us came to know and love the worlds of Warhammer. John was also a friend and mentor to many of us here at Games Workshop. Our heartfelt condolences go to his family and friends.>The universe John helped create is a big place. He will be missed.I wonder if the current GW crew and John were actually good. His last interview for WD was a decade ago, wasn't it? Was he ever experiencing his content or discontent with the course modern GW chose for Warhammer?
>>98156946>They should've kept the part where Mark 4 cyborgs are aliens from millions of years ago though. The problem with>Old good, new badfanboys is how fucking selective they are. Take WHFB grogs and fakegrogs. For every>muh oldschool betterI rarely see anyone latching onto the best ideas but some 6-8th ed shit. MAYBE you'll fund someone with the sense to criticize the overly Arthurian flanderization of bretonnia but you'll sooner find unironic>FOR ZE LADYfaggotry.It's the fucking same in 40k.>MUH OLDCRONSwhen Chaos Androids are better.>MUH ANGRY FACE ASTARTES HELMETand not Beakies. For Bungie, the part where the Flood were a Covenant bioweapon was GREAT and they ruined it. It's like when Star Wars fags harp about>muh fatherlike it wasn't a retcon and Anakin being killed by Vader is far superior.
>>98155264>plasma pistol - standard>d3 attacksHuh? Why?
>There are people already selling Armageddon on the secondary market>They actually have spruesHow?
>>98156969>masked heads for them
>>98156977>>MUH OLDCRONS>when Chaos Androids are better.You're being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian
>>98156973the extremely brief article makes me think modern GW is either a completely indifferent and cold corporation towards him or they were on bad terms.because that doesnt feel like an article written by a company that actually cared about one of their 30 year career foundational artists thats synonymous with their whole brand and also a beloved member of the community. it read like an obligation.
Big E back will crystallize the Hopecore narrative of 40k
>>98156981the stuff hits warehouses weeks in advance, someone probably slipped a friend some copies.
>>98156984Begone Egyptfag.
>>98156981Have we seen full sprues already? Exploded Intercessors suck, some of them have shoulders and bodies fused again.
>>98156986>it read like an obligation.It was. It wasn't written by anyone who really cared and wouldn't be permitted to be emotional even if they did.
>>98156977>like it wasn't a retcon and Anakin being killed by Vader is far superior.The good old days when the best Star Wars film was the only one & ESBfags didn't need ROTJ to follow through on all the plot points they introduced. Maybe they should've spent less time having Ham & Leia do fuck nothing but romance & float in space half the film.
>>98157001This. A New Hope is legitimately one of the best paced films ever made, right up there with Casablanca. ESB is overrated because "muh sad dark night of the soul" but it gets boring in chunks and ends on a cliffhanger making it incomplete by design. Only the first one works as a complete film.
>>98157008>Only the first one works as a complete filmOnly the first one was made as an individual film
>>98156986Turning it into a bigger thing would make them appear as if they're using it for visibility to their products.
>>98157001>>98157008IMO RotJ is underappreciated in that it follows through and delivers a satisfying enough, if not perfect, conclusion. Media CAN be retroactively ruined if it relies on a sequel to deliver payoff and the sequel does a bad job. Every time you watch the original, you're left with a bad taste in your mouth because you're thinking>Oh hey, a plot hoot the sequel fumbled>The great reveal is that this sucksRetroactively sours it.
>>98157027I want to give them the benefit of the doubt but they'd probably plaster a primaris marine all over a Blanche memorial lmao
>>98157030I've had this issue with a lot of things, nice to see it articulated well.Fucking Mass Effect.
>>98156996>>98156981I do not wish to be a GW shill here, but every edition has ETB shit and marines are often made victim of the we-dont-want-you-using-different-parts syndrome that comes with starter boxes.
>>98156982yeah, those, they conveniently cover the forehead so there's no need for conversions, just a purplish paintjobthey would probably have restricted weapon options though, I can't imagine gsc ogryns using the grenade gauntlets or the powered shields personally, it feels wrong
>>98157051Well yeah, it's a Sarter box. Same resson marines werethose squished looking one/two piece guys in Macragge, Black Reach, and Dark Vengeance
>>98157070Give muscular extra arms.
So I own enough to make my chaos army. But I struggle with the expansion part before I finish the last 20 models.Should I do lots of (khorne)cultists and a Helstalker lord with talisman of burning blood or expand into the daemons of the tzeentch side I have ready to build? I want to spam horrors and possessed in a shadow legion build.>Tzeentch marine spam army 25 havoks(chaincannons), 25 rubrics(reapers), 60 legionnaires (6lascannons 6 chaincannons)goes with:>custom made horrors with melted plastic/sprue glue 60pinks 90 blues(replacements)or>120 cultists, (custom scorpion)helstalker lord+talismanI use the MkII marines from the Saturnine box set, I own 120. The 20 left over I have will be turned either into possessed, or 'zerkers because I have the guns. 20 Possessed if I do daemons, Khorne Berzerkers if I do Khorne cult+stalker to make a melee half if my mono-tzeentch is a bust. (360+600+175 for half of the OG army)Khorne-side or mono tzeentch daemon shadow legion?
>>98157078>15 havoksderp
>>98157070Well tyramites become smarter when infected, who's to say if a hybrid ogryn isn't smarter
>>98157089it's not about smarts, but looksit's one thing when the unit is meant to represent a trained cog in the imperial guard, another when it's the brutes of a genecult uprising
>>98157078This is some seriously weird fucked up list building bruh, nothing here will be competitive so there really isn't any point giving advice. Not saying you shouldn't do it, do all the weird shit you want, but it's like asking if you should drink paint or snort skittles.
>>98157110Just curious what sounded better. 20zerks(leftover models), 120 cultists(need) custom helstalker(will build).orhorde of horrors, 20 leftover marines being possessed
>>98157117Idk man, I don't ever want to tell anyone to paint 120 cultists or 150 horrors. Idk why you're inflicting this upon yourself either.
Is the Defiler the ugliest model to finally get retired in 10th edition? What are some legendary Uggos that we will never have to see for sale again after 10th edition?
>>98157125>What are some legendary Uggos that we will never have to see for sale again after 10th edition?tactical marines
>>98157124It would be easier with the organic daemons with paint, drybrush and stain with something.
Psychic powers ARE in the game: a librarian grants his unit FnP4 vs psychic attacks, and he himself has Smite.See? Powers are right there! :^)
>>98157131Seems like they survived the full for another edition. Or at least until the codex drop.
Hello anons,I have been thinking of making more faces with tattoos/war paint. However, I have run out of ideas. I would like to request inspiration. I do not mind whatever theme they are. Thank you.
I always thought it was funny 40k operates on the premise that the average person is a moron. They'll say the imperium is in rough shape as their justification to join chaos, but chaos is the reason the imperium is in rough shape, and chaos only is powerful when people join it and help it. It's this stupid, short sighted, and completely unnecessary self-fulfilling cycle that retards feed into. And that's not to even mention how it's almost always worse. Whatever complaint you had about the imperium, even the valid ones, chaos plays with you like a toy and then eats your soul.And for what? For all of his sins and flaws, at least the emperor's goal was humanity ruling the stars. You can address whatever minor societal flaws you want once that goal is accomplished. Meanwhile chaos's goal is to eat everyone's souls. If the emperor wasn't betrayed by morons who fell for chaos's lies, he may have accomplished his goals, and the very bad situation people cite as their reason to betray humanity for chaos wouldn't exist. It's so stupid.I know people get mad whenever you point this out, because the imperium is supposed to be one of the bad guys since there are no good guys in 40k, and that's true to an extent since the Imperium is indeed very fucked up, so the "there are no good guys" is mostly intact, but the cause of the imperium being fucked up is still chaos and the morons who fall for chaos, so there's sort of a "well that bad guy is worse" or "that bad guy started it" sort of situation. In other words, the Imperium is bad, but they're bad was a direct response to what Chaos is like, and they didn't need to be bad if not for what Choas does that makes them bad.They've sort of written themselves into a corner. They really want to say there are no good guys, but then they write something that explains or justifies the imperium's bad behavior since everyone else is worse, or started it. Pretty much only the tau and votann aren't worse or did something to start it.
>>98157159for what? eldar, tau, chaos, genecultists, imperials?
>>98157159celtic war paintsouth american warpaintislander face tattoos
>>98157167When you grow up maybe you'll learn to get into the headspace of other people.
>>98157167the imperium was bad before chaos too
Attention Britbongs,Tesco sometimes stocks the Combat Patrol and Spearhead magazines in the magazine section. (Usually in the 'big' tescoes).
>>98157159
>>98156942...You have an stl? Can you share m8 Pls...Pls
>>98157211I'd charge for it but it's not my art so go off king.https://litter.catbox.moe/c4j5ka.stl
>>98157167>Emprah good, bois!!!Ok, delusional individual.
>>98157159DEldar have a lot of face tattoos that are vaguely tribal. Don't have any specific examples though.
Hold on Van Vets straight lose Thunder Hammers and Storm Shields don’t they? Or did I miss the part where these datasheets are only the models as they appear in the box.
I'm not sure GW knows the can it's opening handing out 4+++s like this.
>>98157198I didn't know that, I may need to look there for a forgefiend because issues 89 and 90 sold out online super fast
How heretical is this?>BA successor the flayed angels >decorate armor with exposed muscle imagery and flayed skin >use self-flagellation to temper the black rage
>>98157301yeah the datasheet only has what's in the box, stuff will get their full datasheets later, we knew this because they confirmed the full grot datasheet will include an optional runtherd
>>98157167> but the cause of the imperium being fucked up is still chaos and the morons who fall for chaosThe Imperium massacred or practically glassed human worlds that refused to join it's empire. Not chaos worlds, not xenos worlds; human worlds who when approached by some armoured door salesman saying "join us or we get angry" obviously were a little hesitant. It's one of the very first things Loken has a problem with in the first HH book. The Emperor's policy on deliberate ignorance was also incredibly stupid that given that galactic infrastructure relied upon knowledge of the warp in order to do shit before the webway project was finished. Yes, humanity encountered aggressive xenos, but a good portion of Imperial violence was against humans who simply didn't want to be shackled under the rule of a distant world and empire they had little or no connection too in the thousands of years of isolation during the Strife.
>>98157198I saw this the other day (although the 40k ones were gone and the Spearhead ones with skaven were unsold).
>>98157167Everyone is a moron.Average imperial citizen is an uneducated serf. They are living in medieval society with space tech (that magically works on a prayer).
Tau=Good guys.
>>98157339What chapter isn't heretical nowadays?
>>98157078Whatever you do, be sure to post the finished models ITT
>>98157364good goys serving under their chosen ethereal masters
>>98157301>>98157340or possibly split up into 2 sheets like the wulfen
>>98155900not particularly. Dark Eldar are carried hard by scourge shooting which got buffed by plunging fire and terrain rules. They can move less than 3" to ascend to the top floor of ruins, getting +1 BS and +1 to hit (Heavy + Plunging Fire stack), and additionally can reroll to hit with a pain ability. Then they can move-shoot-move themselves back down and out of sight. The standard GW terrain second floor ruin is going to make them incredibly obnoxiousDark Eldar have jetbikes, good jump infantry, good infiltrators, and deep strike. Enhancements that give a unit deep strike and free ingress like Cartel.Transports being death-traps isn't ideal, but it's not the end of the world or anything.
The problem is that there is genuinely just no upside to posting your models here. You'll get a couple responses saying "nice work bro" and that's it. And the potential downsides far outweigh that. Your army is semi-identifiable information if you've ever posted it anywhere else. You'll get one of the mentally ill schizos here finding your other posts, or worse, the slim chance that someone recognizes you irl.I go to tournaments, I enter painting competitions, and I post on various discords. My army is recognizable since it's well painted and is a custom scheme. So there is absolutely no way I'm ever going to post my stuff here. And I don't blame anyone else who has the same policy.
>>98157364no
>>98157478I'm never posting my models here for that reason.I don't want to fish for compliments, and there are better places to get feedback.It's a forum, it's mainly for talking.It's anonymous, it's not meant for a "community". We have fun, we (try and fail to) dodge the trolls, and in the shitmine there are gold nuggets.The only time I'd break that rule of "no posting models" is for that one anon whom I'd like to show my custom krieg model once it's printed & painted.No, I do not believe that posting models, or having models, change how truthful or retarded a take is. I've seen the worse takes about hobbying, warhammer and miniatures from people who spent a lot of money and time on models. Your skills as a miniature painter do not translate to your wisdom.
>>98157478>>98157500Nice cope.
>>98157236>not even a thanksnever again
>>98157478I've seen people doing the same thing on twitter (demand others post models). It made me laugh because I thought it was a 40kg thing
Super Votann Bros
>>98157526>those print lines
>played a game yesterday>lost by 4 pointsWho here JUST?
>>98157532Your army?
>>98157526Give
I bought 10 more berzerkers. Now I have 30 berzerkers. I hope they release berzerkers on juggernauts. So I can have more berzerkers.
>>98157535Orks
>>98157526More destiny than ever
>>98157541>I hope they release berzerkers on juggernauts.I really don't understand why they won't pull the trigger on them. Warhammer Fantasy has had them for 20 years already. I think its a scheme to sell more bloodcrushers
>>98157552Tru, Butchers too. I really have a lot hopes for second wave of WE
>>98157521>>98157236Sorry m8 I was At the swimming lessons And I didn;t have an Occasion to Thank you.So...Thank you.
>>98157552The bloodcrushers are pretty cool, I'd play khorne daemonkin if berzerker warband didn't just kick the shit out of every other detachment
>>98157541>be GW>make chaos/berzerker lord on juggernaut>don't make regular berzerkers on juggernauts for it to leadThe inner workings of the mind of the bri'ish is an enigma
Does anyone here use legends units in their lists? Wouldnt mind running some old squatted characters for fun
>>98157523Because even the retards on twitter are sick of secondaries coming in and making retarded takes on the hobby.Posting models, /here/ at least, is just a filter on whether you should even give a shit on what someones saying, if they have them than just dunk on the retarded, if not just ignore the secondary that has no stake in the hobby and is just spouting bullshit.
>>98157565The lord goes on a horse, the peasants go on foot
>>98157475>They can move less than 3" to ascend to the top floor of ruins, getting +1 BS and +1 to hit (Heavy + Plunging Fire stack),This doesn't work. Fly keyword allows you to ignore vertical movement when resolving the move, not when calculating heavy.
Are there any named characters that are acceptable, /40kg/? I know you lot hate that shit but i wasnt sure if its just the primarch spam that pisses people off in these generals
>>98157614all of them are, anybody crying about them has never touched the game in their life
>>98157478Half the time when someone posts models, there's some nomodels nitpicking it or otherwise seething over nothing.
>>98157614No.
>>98157617I used one in my list for the first time ever the other day but just from playing games its very rare for someone not to have a named character in their list (unless its gsc)
>>98157614People just don't like people using primarchs in 1000 point matches is all. Primarchs and other big centrepiece units like C'tan or whatever can definitely be used in 2000 point matches no problem, and named characters can be used anywhere.
>>98157614dont let some curmudgeonly sourpusses on a contrarian forum tell you not to play your favorite models. fuck em. bring the primarchs, bring ghaz, bring the avatar, bring ctan, life is short, dont waste your time youd rather be spending fielding all your big toys instead kowtowing to some salty buttcrusted nards on the internets sewage drain forum
>>98157614The problem with named characters is that they force you to play with GW's guys instead of /yourguys/. Yeah you can do proxies and counts-as, but really most named characters should have a generic build option.Anyways, a good named character should work with /yourguys/. To that end, the Phoenix lords have always been cool.
>>98157614Some dickheads are still mad their big brother's Abaddon tabled their army in 2004 and have never got over it
>>98157478Could you post something that you're working on? At least its not recognisable once its finished
>>98157521Cheers m8
GSC can still bring named characters but its limited to deathleaper & red terror
>>98157568yes, I always play legends, fuck GW for trying to kill off fun units
>>98157641Even in 2019 people were still seething about it, my friend and I won a local doubles tourney and my list consisted of 4 models, the amount of named character salt was delicious.
>>98157614Pedro is always acceptable
>>98157614People who hate named characters are no games trying too hard to fit in. >it’s like marvel capeslopThere have been named characters in the game since RT. I have never seen someone at a table run more than 2 and no one cares because generally you expect a 2k list to have overpowered shit. Don’t bring 4 lemans to a 1k game, but on the standard 2k no one cares in real life
>>98157710>using a mexican
>if you're crying about X then you're a nogame secondary fake grog
>>98157715The crimson fists have Spanish motifs, can you tell me what country that originates from?
>I'm gonna prove the point of why "post models" is so widely used
>>98157541Technically you can run 20 man units and have 60 of them…..(don’t do that)
>>98157693Chaos daemons?
>>98157735Technically you can fit 100 berzerkers in a list, but with the new 9" unit coherency rule 20 man units are probably gonna suck dick in 11th
>>9815773920 models are quite comfortable in a 9 inch bubble
>>98157523>post models meme now reached normies Was it always like this?I thought the post models thing was mostly our thing.Never seen it on other forums.I feel oddly glad that the post models meme has reached the normies.
>>98157737It was chaos, it was just Ahriman, 2 1ksons dps in a supreme command, and Morty in a super heavy auxiliary.This was still the time when heretic astartes psychic powers could buff cousin legion codexes, so it led to a lot of shenanigans with Morty flying up the board and using my 3whole CP to stink cloud strat our opponents front line
>>98157523Nah, it's just 40k's version of asking someone wearing a band shirt to name 3 songs.
>>98157743Yes, but they're gonna have to be arranged in a circle shape, which makes it even more impossible to get most of them in range for combat and also hide them from shooting .
>>98157715He ain't mexican. Wait why am I responding to bait
thunderhawk has landed and is ready for customization LETS FUCKIN GO LADS
>>98157744/AOS/ and /WIP/ use it all the time
>>98157769quality seems damn good on all the parts, doesn't even seem to be any warping. minimal cleanup vs some big resin models I've seen. the clear part for the canopy is actually clear too.
>>98157769>>98157778How much did that cost you?
>>98157769>>98157778Imagine if a plastic thunderhawk was announced within the year
>>98157785$269 plus shipping (paid for expedited fedex) from Forge World Wuhan >>98157800wouldn't care lmao
>>98157125The new one is just dumb looking. huge torso, silly beach bod midriff, nipple guns.
>>98157769no feet pics?
>>98157810I'm not an unwashed savage, I wear socks around the house.
>>98157125The scourge is silly, but I think it looks greatThe new one is different enough that it could be a different unit, which is good.
>>98157478>>98157500I posted minis a few times all I got were totally unhelpful replies or insults. I don't know why you would post minis here to be honest.
>>98157801>$269 plus shipping (paid for expedited fedex) from Forge World WuhanTempting. Thanks Anon, hope to see progress as you work on it!>>98157806The new Defiler is so lame.
>>98157759This is 20 32mm base models and 1 40mm leader in coherency, nowhere near a circle shape.
>>98157800GW would want to price it close to the FW price and no one would buy.
>ssylth>claw fiend>medusae>tarellian>vespids>jokaero>barghesi>zoat>ambull>urghulWhat other aliens only appear once in one army in warhammer with no greater significance to the setting.
>>98155569>retards think a chapter for a nexos faction should get a refreshJust throw all elves in one codex and call it a day, they did it with clown elves and Ynari already.
>>98157830Oh ok, well a 20 man unit of berzerkers is still too many points in one unit, better for them to split up and be more versatile. They're OC2, and you'll never need 40 OC on an objective.
>>98157777I should have said this site’s thing. My mistake.
>>98157769what are your plans with it, gkanon?
>>98157834Sad list
>>98157871posted some of the plans before, but its gonna be customized along the lines of an ancient sketch of an inquisitor's custom gun-cutter from I think Dark Heresy? was clearly based on a thunderhawk anyway.will be using some parts from a blackstar (the inquisition marked doors for example) and scratch building the sloped nose from plasticard.
>>98157831If people buy the resin one the plastic one will sell more
>>98157858Ah, yeah I don’t really go anywhere else to talk models … or retro games, or sports
>>98157888The warhammer youtuber scene grows every day, it feels like soemthing some 300,000 subs youtuber with a 5000/mo patreon would be like>WHOOOOOOOA BROS>SPENDING WAY TOO MUCH ON WARHAMMER IS MY HOBBY>I JUST BOUGHT THE PLASTIC THUN THING>900 DOLLARS? WHAT IS GW THINKING!But wanyway what I'm thinking is the endless dollar increases per model are so GW can eventually add Titans as an army. When 300 bucks gets you 500 points, a 375 dollar plastic warhound titan for 1200 points won't look so bad.
>>98157831You have no idea what you're talking about.
>>98157909GW is also forced to move those models to plastic if they want to continue selling them anyway. upcoming UK environmental regulations are making them move off resin entirely.
>>98157910There he is again, dicks in his ass jimmy, going to bat for GW and their fucked up pricing structures.
Tau water caste giving a presentation on Human diplomacyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xALZs5mxPdU
>>98157921Retards like you are tiresome. I'm not even gonna bother replying to you anymore.
>Daemonculaba>clonegrim>Anchorite>Star childThe common things these plot points are is that they are potentials just left for nothing to happen. Not even sure if they’ll ever be revisited if gw can even legally do that.Is there a proper term for those “plot points?”
>>98157909>>98157920This.There will be people who buy and resin is going the way of the dodo.For the price of a thunderhawk I'd rather get a printer and either get a scan or model the damn thing myself. Marine vehicles are all flat panels & straight angles, very much geometrical. Get some measurements and a lot of time, voila.
>>98157920It's not that I don't believe you, I just want to read about it somewhere. Can you point me to those upcoming regulations?
>>98157967its similar to the JJ Abrams theory of the "mystery box">introduce THING>THING is crazy and wild>never explain THING because whatever the audience imagines will be better to them than what you could actually come up withonly one that will be touched on is the Star Child because its part of Abnett's stuff to a degree and the next Bequin book is done and in the GW vaults ready to go.
>>98157969>resin is going the way of the dodoLots of smaller studios use resin though and gw has put out HH resin models that weren’t even forgeworld era. Why they were not in plastic is anyone’s guess.
>>98157946The feeling is mutual, GW shill.
>>98157988>>never explain THING because whatever the audience imagines will be better to them than what you could actually come up withGood, they should have never touch Terminus Decree.
>>98157980the UK government replaced the EU REACH regulations with their own post-brexit version and some of the new stuff about safe handling of diisocyanates are probably just going to be cost prohibitive for GW. existing industry was given until 29 to change to their new standards. I'm sure you can find the full language for the UK REACH legislation on parliament's website
>>98157988>>98158023Was the Alan Bligh Horus heresy actually good before the books started coming out?Horus heresy if I remember right was originally a hinted at mythical tier apocalyptic event that had been mostly forgotten.Did Alan Bligh do the impossible and make it cool back then?
>>98158010>>>/v/
>>98158045Better stock up on the hh resin models then or maybe gw will update them to plastic.Is this thing gonna affect the 3d printing industry for bongs?I’m a leaf but I have a soft spot for the UK.
>Wraithblade elbow blade broke off>I've no clue where it wentIt's fucking over
>>98158077This is me but my hobby knife.Didn’t think I’d have a sentimental attachment to a hobby knife and here we are.Anyways I’m gonna
>>98158068>Is this thing gonna affect the 3d printing industry for bongs?technically yes. in practice, not really, because enforcement is focused on major industry and preventing large environmental issues. there aren't enough staff to properly police individuals and the regulations for sale of the liquid resin hasn't changed.
>>98158091>I’m gonna I don’t know how I posted by accident.This is beyond spelling mistake.Anyways how are x acto gripster knives?Sticking with that one or excel blades because there are stls to make replacement caps if I lose it.
>>98158093Alright.It will be interesting to see how gw adapts.Was the mouldline remover gw complying with British knife laws by chance?
>>98156986It's an obituary, that's how long they usually are. You do a full memorial another time, this is just notification of his death and well-wishing to those who knew him.
>>98154849Honestly, I'm working on my crimson croc for the kingdom death game I have on Saturday. But here's some stormtroopers. I need to swap the servo skull stands out for clear stems, no idea why I thought black was a good plan.
>>98158223Lynching soon?
I'M A VERY HUNGRY BOY
Hellblaster status?
>>98157992GW is a british company and so is subject to british environmental laws.Also new materials are being tested as we speak to replace resin, there's one that's named something like "unicool" and it's a kind of resin that's a bit supple which means it doesn't fucking explode and break when you sneeze too hard on it.
>>98158272I'm so hungry I could eat... A world.
>>98158275currently on day 9 of decalfag leaving to paint his hellblasters. supposedly he will post his hellblasters on june 9th
>>98158381you are delusional if you think he's actually doing that
>>98158387he has 14 hours of his day freed up now to paint them, so I believe in him.
I bought an eliminator squad today as my first models to work on before the space marine starter kit comes out but I have choice paralysis gluing them togetherI don't even know how to play yet how am I supposed to commit to a weapon forever
>>98157614I always like Cawl and Bile. They're silly but fun.
>>98158381I still think it's super naive for you to extend an olive branch when he literally tried to get reddit to raid us a few days before you did this. It's like rewarding retarded behavior. Still it has been very nice without him here lately. We'll see what happens.
>>98156783They need a good rival. Alpha Legion vs GSC would be cool.
What makes the Wave Serpent by far the best model Games Workshop has ever made? The thing is from 2005 or older yet is better than most kits to this day. The only update it needs is the pilots but that's it.
>>98158381I hope he pulls through. Rooting for the little fella on this.
>T'au discover humanity and the Imperium>Realize that the Imperium is a galaxy-spanning power>Still mess with it anyway.Are the Tau stupid or what?
>>98158510Two solutions >magnetize the arms with hobby magnets to switch between loadouts>buy a second kit and build them both ways
>>98158589I mean they're still around, and always will be by the grace of GW, so no
>>98155460the correct answer is probably both but if you HAD to pick just one, it's between a big gun that makes the rest of your shooting stronger and an even bigger gun that doesn't really have an equivalent anywhere else in the roster. cant go wrong with eitherthe exocrine is probably the strictly "better" pick but the tfex is a lot cooler, if a bit feast or famine
Why does he hate imperial fists so much? is it just to bait valrak?Space wolves and ultrasmurfs are the lame chapters
>>98157614Phoenix lords are:a) not that powerfulb) typically not a mandatory inclusion to make the army functionc) canonically inclined to roam around between craftworlds, thus having an actual excuse to party with pretty much any CWE army at any time
>>98158622imperial fists are lame as fuck too, same with iron hands and iron warriors
>>98158631tell me your favourite chapter or faction please
>>98158631iron hands are based. i bet your a fucking furry arent you.
>>98158635flesh tearers and world eaterscope and seethe, shit eater>>98158638they're a fucking joke who even the admech laugh at for being so insecure and retarded
>>98158642idgaf about space marines, but how you can hate iron warriors is ridiculous
>>98158644>idgaf>but here's my opinion on themlmao shut the fuck up
>>98158651about space marines I said, dickhead
>>98158642> world shitters and lame tearersyour chapters are the definition of mid. Even the space furrys mog you.
>>98158510it's not too tough to use spare eliminator arms on other marine bodies down the line.
>>98158662sorry I cant hear you over you getting up in arms in defense of the literal shit eating marines you fucking retard lmao
I might just make a traitor guard army now thanks to wga. Does anyone have size comparisons between them and nu guard kits?
>>98158600Or be me and magnetize the kit then buy two anyways
>>98157526That person made 0 effort to print those well
>>98158681I'll do that then thanks, I bought these because scout marines with sniper rifles were great
>>98157526cool paper mache
>>98157526That was a fun boss fight.
>>98158745The fuck did you just say about paper mache?
>>98158612Yeah, but the Imperium still kicked the shit out of them.
>>98154849Nothing right now but I just finished this DC dread
How do I paint the emblem inside the canopy for the Wave Serpent?
>>98158829>boxnoughts>goblin green basesPeak 40k
>>98158776The imperium kicks the shit out of everyone because of sheer numbers alone. It's also the only reason why the imperium is even still alive despite literally everyone attacking it from everywhere. Unless the Tau models stop selling they're going to keep existing regardless of how much people online seethe over them.
>>98158682>marinefag calling another marinefag a retard>homeless man calling another homeless man broke.jpgAnyone who thinks their "muh edgy and totally not like other marines" chapters is any different from average marineslop are real retards.
>>98158964nobody asked about your opinion, tourist-kun
>>98158982I'm a xenosfag. Marinepiggies bitching at each other over being boring when marines have always been boring.
What's up with LAACfags these days? Don't you want your guys to win?
>>98158947>The imperium kicks the shit out of every-ACKKKKK
>>98158642sorry, as much as they suck, the marines who build massive fortifications in preparation for great sieges, marines who build massive walkers and siege engines, and marines who are cyborgs are infinitely cooler than marines who are retard barbarians.
Why don't all Knight weapons have the [HEAVY] keyword by default?
>>98159030cuz I'm not gonna fatshame my beautiful 100 war machine
>>98159000you're a larper>>98159022yeah, redditors do love those things
https://youtube.com/shorts/6FNsRG2DjfIWhat armies can let me try this “painting” technique?
>>98158288That’s pretty good.I do yearn for a resin that can be melted together and work with plastic cement.
>t. 8th edition grognard
>>98159052>marinepiggy seething that his slightly edgier red marines are just as boring as all other marines >doesn't even try to defend them because they aren't uniqueCope and seethe, marineslopper.
>>98159105The distant year of 2019
>>98158622they suck cause black templars took everything cool about them when they split
Marinebrors, are we the baddies?
>>98159008Winning isn't as important to me as having a fun game
Put together my first models and I hate how fiddly it is to put it all together, I hope the glue gets better in the next few hours because it's still fragile
>>98159105>8th edition is now unc/boomer/grog Anon no please no.
>>98159130Are you using superglue, newfriend?
>>98159150No I bought the citadel plastic glue along with the paint and tool set and black primer
>>98159156You may have used too much of the plastic glue. It can take a long time for it to try and the melted plastic to harden again if you use too much
>>98159156Plastic glue is what I use and generally recommend, just in future stay away from citadel hobby products, they're both more expensive and yet worse than other companies' stuff. If you're finding it fiddly to keep pieces glued together, put a bit of plastic glue (small bit, if you go overboard it'll spill out and melt your model when pieces are pressed together) on each side of the join, let it sit for a short while. The glue will start melting down the plastic, then when you press the pieces together they instantly start bonding together and should be somewhat firm within moments. Then leave those pieces aside as you work on something else to fully set.
>>98159110uh oh larper melty
>>98156354Yes, it sucks. There is a reason they released a smaller thinner square edged ceramic blade that fits in a design knife handle. That also chips easier but at least it might be usable.It is cool looking, but the steep bevel on the thick blade makes it a gouge happy meme, and really only useful for scaping big flat planes on mecha models. Save your money.
>>98156261I don't want to shit up the memorial thread but I don't know whether it's disingenuousness or autism at this point.>it's basically the opening crawl of all of 40k>basicallyThe most common form of it doesn't have the>you will not be missedand it hasn't for a long time. You're saying that if someone read a book with the last chapter removed, they should get a reference to something from the last chapter because they "basically" read the book.I hate hate hate the idea that>it was only one tweet that was deleted quicklyThat's not how this works.>why do people always talk about Michael Richards saying the n word? He had a long career as Kramer, but you talk about one comedy show?It still also hasn't been explained to me how knowing about a controversy from the 10s makes one a tourist. Do you hold a grudge for 8 years over a controversy in a fandom you don't care about? Make it make sense.
>>98159166Marinepiggy with no arguement.
>>98159156Yeah like the other guy said, put a small bit of the plastic glue on both sides and just let it sit for a minute or two before joining them together. The pre-dissolved plastic knits together straight away and you don't have to hold the join manually for anywhere near as long.
As an aspiring Marine pig, what units are always useful to have regardless of exition? How much of the new starter box stuff realistically would you ever use in a competitive list?
>>98159254Nothing beats having 3 units of intercessors. Being able to toss out 40 dice on shooting, then 30 dice in melee(you packed them tightly to respond to being charged) and maybe 40 dice on overwatch, that's 110 dice tossed by a single 160 point unit with CP use. Three of them is enough to wipe out a 240 gaunt horde if used right.Just let the wounded gaunt units charge into melee so you don't have to split fire and shoot less dice because of their special rule.40 shots standing still is about 20 dead gaunts a turn. One unit can wipe 60 gaunts before they die off if left alone. With support (like a dreadnought stopping them from being surrounded/piled onto) they can pile melee attacks in at 3 attacks each. Which in older editions having over 2 attacks a model was khorne berzerker tier. IDK why they were allowed 3 melee attacks each.
>>98157604The exact text in the rules for Take To The Skies is:>Ignore all vertical distance for the purposes of how far it has movedThe exact text for Heavy is:>No model in that unit has moved morethan 3" this turnThat sounds to me like all vertical distance is counted as 0" until the end of the turn.
>>98157637This. Also you get GW taking what should be a standard unit leader and turning them into a unique piece. Why do I have to run an ugly dude holding an ork head if I want a champion for my Cthonian Beserks? Why can't I run a regular Fireblade in my Pathfinder squads?
>>98159241The lack of self-awareness
I think I'll try to recreate the classic skeleton emperor on the golden throne art by blanche as a small diorama for the collage this month
>>98157526We need more blades coming from the left arm.
>>98159030Lasweapons should get the [LIGHT] keyword by default.
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still have the dark angels from dark vengeance sitting aroundThink Ill base my Orks with them, say they are obsessed with finding the secret they are keeping. Convinced its some holy grail of dakka. boy are they going to be disappointed
What's stopping GW from expanding upon other Chapters, Warbands, Orders, etc that aren't the main ones?
>>98159030A weapon with the [HEAVY] keyword is one that benefits from being braced or left stationary in some way. Obviously a knight has no need to brace its guns and can remain mobile while firing.That said, I would love a knight with a huge fuck off two-handed cannon that had to be planted into the ground to actually fire
>>98159550the expanded upon ranges are the ones that sellhence their expansionlittle bit of a self fulfilling prophecy though
>>98159254The basic Intercessor is always good, they made them cracked for what you get honestly.
How much longer til Red Corsair units get their own box? Does this usually happen when new units come out that they're stuck in a combat patrol/battleforce?
What's the best turret guns to have on a Wave Serpent?
>>98159550After the first founding chapters get expanded to have a bunch of extra units and there are no more kits to update then they'll be forced to make new shit.We're going to get there by the end of this edition, predicited GK refresh, Salamanders expansion, whatever new unit they have planned for SW and each of the monogod factions. Dark Eldar refresh after they're they're bascially done.
>>98159574Anon is on a month delay
>>98159574the reave captain, huron and the raiders already have their own dedicated boxes
>>98159581Bright lances.
>>98159581IIRC you want the missile launcher and the shuriken cannon. I'd really recommend magnetizing though.
>every army I like is redwhy do they all have to look so similar
>>98159619I have the same problem with black. Daddy James please stop making so many colour schemes based on black!
>>98159619its cuz yooze a fast git
>>98159321I accept your concession
>>98159647four words to say you've lost the argument
>>98154875What's the June's theme?
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>>98157614I feel like there's a huge difference between using, for example, Fabius Bile and Abaddon
>>98159659fast & nimble
What red paint is this?
>>98159688looks similar to pro acryl bold pyrrole red
>>98159696So I cannot try to recreate that red with Citadel paints?
Someone betters starts a new thread, otherwise I will do it and make it a coomer edition.
>>98159707not sure desu, evil sunz scarlet looks kinda close to it
>>98159735Do it pussy, you won't, you've changed, no balls.
How to fix 40K:>Imperium: Remove all Primarchs. Having things be about Primarch power levels is shit. At the very least, don't add any more>Chaos: Have the Warp just be a magical emotion dimension that drives you crazy and shits out daemons with no scheming gods (though people might believe there are)>Tyranids: Have them be the only existential threat>Tau: Focus them on the 'alliance of many races' element instead of Gundam; add units of humans and weirdo races that don't justify an army for themselves>Orks: Remove Snakebites and 'gross animal' stuff from them, make them purely about ramshackle Mad Max technology and looted weapons. If you need a 'primitive animal-user' faction, have it be Exodites>Votann: Focus on the rune magic-using psykers and 'repurposed mining equipment' elements>Sisters: Add more 'magical faith daemons that look like angels' like Celestine as more normal units>Thousand Sons: Make every unit a psyker with psychic powers (or a daemon)>Grey Knights, Deathwatch, Imperial Knights, Imperial Agents, Harlequins, Chaos Daemons: Make them just allied units for any Imperial/Eldar/Chaos army>Chaos Knights: Cut them entirely
Votann need giant drills.
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>>98159755This sounds like it was written by a faggit.
>>98159651The concession of all time
>>98155194>>98155190I love it when chaos move towards disturbing horror and away from big red guy with horns, so cool.
