▶Previous edition: >>98099765▶What is /gwsg/?A thread to talk about Games Workshop's specialist and spin-off games which fall between the cracks.Battlefleet Gothic, Blood Bowl, Epic, K*ll Team, Man-o-War, Middle-Earth Strategy Battle Game, Mordheim,Necromunda, Shadow War: Armageddon, Titanicus, Underworlds, Warcry, Warhammer Quest, Warmaster......and any other GW system and board game are welcome.▶Helpful resources (feel free to suggest additions!):https://pastebin.com/qq9N8V0V▶TQ: Favourite Blood Bowl Summer Games Team?
>>98165095>>98120506 And found this fanart.
>>98165115Didnt knew that the first Edition had little paper tokens for starplayers.
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>>98165152Kinda cool. One box, many teams! I guess the first edition was more like a manager game were you recruited not based on factions or races?
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>>98162436nobody fucking takes defensive. it only shows up on Amazon big girls and dorf/owa long beards. It's a 40k double for players with guard access and elves aren't going to take it because they don't want to sit there and get hit and they have better shit to take. the only players who might take it are like Big 'uns on the Orc team because they already start with mighty blow but idk, dodge is only like 10k more and is better and stand firm and break tackle are both cheaperthe rogre does help with the one turns and they are trying to force it on you by getting rid of 2 gutters
Anyone recognize this collection and know who the creator is?
current new edition blackbox win rates. MASSIVE caveat that TV based matchmaking isn't league and teams like humans over preform because they are really TV efficient and this doesn't take into account things like coach ability. like half of all dwarf games were from one retard who sucks. It's crazy that "new player" teams like Orcs, Humans and Undead are so high. you would think they would be even better without all the new players playing as them
>Amazons have a thrower>literally no one carries on the thrower, she's only used for 1-3 turns and as a leader caddy>Berts have a thrower>I assume people carry on the blitzer or a catcher because 7ma and dodge access>pact has a thrower>everyone carries on the dark elf and uses the thrower as a leader caddy>Dark elves have a runner>runner is used as a leader caddy>Dorfs use their runners>Do people carry on the pro elf throwers? why wouldn't you carry on a catcher?>high elves semi have to carry on the thrower because my ball, lol >humans have a thrower>most people carry on the catchers now and use the thrower like a skaven thrower for 1 and 2 turns>Imps, I got no clue, they have a thrower>norse carry on the valks>OWA has a thrower, but carries on the catcher>Orcs used to carry on the blizers but now have to carry on the thrower due to lack of blitzers>Rats have a thrower but carry on the gutter runners>khemri use their thrower>I think underworld carry on the gutter and not the thrower>vamps have throwers but carry on the runners>wood elves have a thrower but carry on the war dancers So block, dodge and high movement always beat sure hands, pass and good PA stats
>>98168549Google says>M3Studios - Aeternum FabricaKickstarter from 2021
What do we think about the Aeronautica animation while there is no game?
>>98170871>weask the gerbil in your ass
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>>98170897He says that they make these cartoons to sell the big kits.
Looking for good 6mm epic stls.Something like pic related in detail.No idea who the creator is of this model.I think the best 6mm stuff tends to get the hammer by gw so good stls intended to be 6mm are rare on public places.
>>98170871Another slop animations from GW. Shits are both retarded and predictable it's boring, fuck even the character designs are exactly how you'd expected.
Space Hulk
Blood BowlUnderworld DenizensNot sure what to give my newly level 2 gutter runnerThinking about>big hand, to steal balls when the opposing team fails to pick up... but he already does it on a 3+>two heads, to be pseudo-stunty... but there are few situations where 9MA needs dodge into tackle zones>sidestep, because I use him to pressure the ball carrier and this can help get a stab without blitzing... but he's just as likely to be knocked down and die>wrestle, to be boring>block, to be even more boringShadowing and diving tackle would make him a targetSaboteur would be great if he wasn't an expensive positionalFoul Appearance sort of is what I want but also not because he's not a front liner and it feels like a waste if he isn't regularly being punched
>>98170871It'd be nice to even have some sort of WD article with some fun gimmick missions...
>>98173735>>two heads, to be pseudo-stunty... but there are few situations where 9MA needs dodge into tackle zonesI don't play as underworld, but two heads is the second most common underworld gutter runner skill on fumbbl after block. Two heads was the most common skill on a UD gutter in super league and that NAF tournament on fumbbl right now and it was twice as common as block or sidestep>but there are few situations where 9MA needs dodge into tackle zones>>sidestep,Do you not one turn? do you play as UD and you don't do one turns? Two heads and to a lesser extent side step both make one turn touch downs more consistent. I thought the whole reason people play underworld is because they have a really good one turn because you can use the snots to fill the squares for the normal gutter runner one turn and they have to set up weird because they need to respect the throw teammate one turn
Can some one help me out with a copy of the necromunda rulebook? Plz & Thnx
>>98174983https://www.necroraw.com.ru/
>>98173655The animation is fine, but i agree that it is a basic effort production. >>98173834You mean a revitalisation? But Epic or Aeronautica?
>>98173666Based! Funny they never cared to give us more options like Space Marines, Imperials, Chaos or Eldar.It would be a good thing to fill pages in the White Dwarf and give people the imcentive to buy minis from other WH40k factions.
>>98175567Kinda like Space Crusade did.
>>98175567Ever since GW went full corporate during 8th with money money money and created the side games division with only intern/employee (aka complete noobs) as game designers all creativity are pretty much dead. No more one off box game. Actually there were box games for extreme limited release in EU and US, but it wasn't a new game, it's based on Gorechosen, a game made before the rapture, by a freelancer.
I've purchased a Vampire team.Can you guys please recommend a nice color scheme for the team?I'm a pretty bad painter too.
>>98173472That's by Varus Miniatures, he has a patreon. He released them in 15mm and 6mm but no idea if you can still buy them. Here's the STL from your picture, but otherwise learn to telegram or try and paypig from the source.go/d/2Xw596
>>98175567Between White Dwarf and Citadel Journal, Space Hulk had many of those things. Daily reminder that old good, new bad, and who cares what modern GW does?
>>98174376>one turnI've now looked at the fumbbl guides for it and the world feels a lot less fun now, sort of like when you and your friends first discover Blodge and no-one picks even the useful alternative skillsI like underworld because I get the best parts of skaven and goblins, and mutation accessI can't imagine what you do on a one turn touchdown team build after the first turn of the game, or against Strength 4, or against a lineup with Guard, or when losing the coinflip, or a Shadowing dwarf, or...
>>98177098you don't start the game with a one turn touch down. skaven are one of the only races that regularly choose to receive if they win the toss. the only thing you do, that's kind of gay, is you don't use any rerolls on defense and some skaven/elf/underworld coaches will just completely run away and not try to play defense at all. either way you just play your defense as normal, then when the half ends you score a 1 turn touch down and go into the 2nd half 1-1, meaning all of the other guy's work was worthless and then you try to score on turn 8 of the second half to win 2-1. Same thing if you start on offense, you score turn 8. they do their drive and then you score on turn 8 of the second half and win 2-1.>after the first turn of the game, or against Strength 4, or against a lineup with Guard, or when losing the coinflip, or a Shadowing dwarf, or.you can still do it vs STR 4 and guard, you might need to uphill. Skaven usually take a juggernaut rat ogre and you sometimes see grab on a tree or troll to help with the OWA, wood elf and underworld one turns (underworld can take a juggernaught roger instead of a troll too.) usually people don't have more than 1 shadowing guy so you just pow him. Worst case you play like necro or pro elves and have to deal with multiple stand firm/side step. that's why skaven take juggernaut and stand firm more often than other races. If you have a troll you probably just throw teammate. If you don't think you can one turn as elves, rats or underworld you use your defensive rerolls to dive into the cage and try to turn the guy over. if you look at >>98169267 most of the top races are top races outside of like amazons and undead because they have good one turns. You can do a 1 turn with amazons, but they usually stop a defense or turn them overUW has 2 one turn threats, humans have 2 one turn threats, orcs have the goblin throw one turn, high elves have a 1 turn, snots have ttm, rats have a good 1 turn. owa has 2 1 turners
>>98177098>>98177674I do think one turners are gay, by the way, but it is how a lot of top tier teams turn 1-1 ties into 2-1 wins and 1-0 losses into 1-1 ties
>>98176660Sorry, i was thinking about the modern GW. For the first edition they at least did a Deathwing box.
>>98175595Kinda sad. But when it doesnt make that enough money, understandable.Do you mean Space Marine Adventures?
While searching for a pic of >>98177989 i fo7nd a Blitz Bowl boardgame.
>>98177989>maximusThe most ultramarine name ever conceived
Are there any scans of this? I want to study it for board game design.
>>98178694to learn how not to make a game?
>>98178771If it's bad then yeah I wanna know why and what I should do to make my own better.
>yuropoor bowl>porland>literally fucking poverty bowl where no one can afford their toyswhat did they mean by this? I can check some other ones but like humans and orcs are just slightly too poor to afford good shit. Like if necro wants to do the 1 wolf 13 mens build they either have to only have block on the wolf or they need a naked ghoul I just made an OWA team and in order to fit the budget I had>2 rerolls>apo>assistant coach>tree>guard slayer>guard dorf blitzer>2 dorf long beards>Mb human thrower>side step catcher>leader thrower >3 human linos>and 1 fling for a 12th player
>>98178787i played it once, there are missions that are literally impossible if you play rules as written. too many mechanics that are about adding things in later or only /unlocking/ heroes for later play throughs. Odd choices, feels like video game design in the worst way. dicce to move is the worst system in the fuckin world Lessons to keep, really nice minis, bound book that lays flat for maps. first time ive seen it not ringed and still staying flat. impressive book. I love maps in a book, makes life so much easier for adventure board games
AG3+ player>I can't dodge at all for any reasonElf/Rat enjoyer>Is that a 4+? yabba dabba dooit's funny how much of a difference break tackle makes for orc players when it's 1 +1 on 1 dodge
>>98177989Oh yeah that certainly jog my memory. These basement adventure games are an amalgamation of spacehulk and blackstone fortress, there're also other board game like Bladeborn, Stormvault, Lost relic, Dark tide (surprisingly this one is not region limited, but nevertheless an extremely slop product with recut of existing kits that look nothing like the characters from the game) And yeah those are also diet or just reskin version of other existing games.> Space Marine Adventures?I was talking about Combat Arena, unlike other games, the Combat Arena games have unusual high value for the price, mainly the first one with the Blackstone fortress escalation characters, and lair of the beast with the Ambull and all Blackstone fortress characters. And before you guess it, yes scalpers gobble these up and resell at "GW price". And yes this is the "ackshually warhammer is cheaper than the competition you see" type of reply you'll get from retards and it really annoys the shit out of me.>Blitz BowlThis is a warhammer underworld + blood bowls. Instead of playing ball, you can score points by beating the shit out of the opponents, or doing objectives which give you card to perform vodoo magics. players die fast but also respawn, at the cost of your actions.
>>98179178Thanks for the reply this is why I want to read the rules. I agree dice movement sucks.
>>98173735>>two heads, to be pseudo-stunty... but there are few situations where 9MA needs dodge into tackle zonesDo you not cage dive? Do you play underworld and not cage dive? I play orcs and I dodge into tackle zones if it means I can put the ball on the ground.
>>98180409You can buy the game components online, for the rulebooks there're one up on scribd.The problem with the game is the exact problem with other board game made by GW: it got boring, real quick. And Dark Water specifically is not a co-op game, because some characters and team compositions are just complete ass, the game has losing condition and time limit so it's more of a puzzle that best be played solo. The progression is also terrible, You gain random universal "reward card" as a form of progression, there're 0 excitement or any form of brainstorming for a character build in this game. In dark water, you get even less characters (both heroes and villains) than cursed city, for a higher price. Not to mention some of the heroes look like ass compared to the one they made in Cursed City.There're 1 set item (consist of 3 reward cards) for each hero, and 1 universal set (which is really just a set item for some priest that didn't make it into the game). You can still use these items with any heroes, you just don't get the bonus for having the full set on wrong heroes. This just add to the point of this being a solo game, and some heroes are just too ass to even get items, so instead you just give it to another hero.Also you move D6 (or 6 if you spent extra energy) in this game, unless you're the dwarf (always 3) or the centaur(D3+3), the dwarf also ignored trap when he spent the extra energy (and 1 enemy with his trait), while the centaur can push any heroes 1 hex. And in this game there're "time limit" scenario where you had to kill the boss within 3 turns while he hid behind legion of goons and traps. Now you get the idea : puzzle and solo game.And last, there're "alternative character card" for the 4 starting heroes (dwarf, knight, knight lady, water bottle bitch) : these are....eh? Well certainly these won't resuscitate me from my coma after playing this game.
>>98179932>Combat ArenaLooks like they took the videogame bossbattle idea and put it in a small game. I can see why scalpers buy it for the minis. And since the boardgame is more like a travel game, i can see that GW planned it that way.
Do people use magnets to keep their metal BFG ships attached to a flying stand? The pegs i recall always used to break. Im looking to rebuild my bfg fleets.
