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TQ: I like the bedlam raiders because it's fun to see refurbished droids in the imperial eras

What is the best white or off white acrylic paint for painting stormtrooper and clone trooper models?
And also what are the best specific acrylic paint colors (names store sells AK paints) for mud trooper, shore trooper and other trooper variants?

Generally if all else fails I might try just following this tutorial:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb_mLXxUqU4&ra=m

>>98166374
I hope that new xcom star wars game has a kino asymmetric clone vs droid mode. where clones have more, and more flexibile, abilities for each unit, while droids have greater numbers and more niche specialist abilities for each unit.

Encouraging you to go 18th century battleline with B1s, while Your normal clone has more modern style cover usage and suppression fire.

I seen some YouTube videos but any good examples of former separatists who fought against the Jedi joining the Rebellion after the Clone Wars? Or people just leaving the separatists who eventually join the rebel alliance against the empire?

>>98166891
nope. separatists are ontologically evil.

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>>98166891
The closest I can think of are the droids in that one episode of Rebels and someone in Andor referred to as a "neo-Separatist" but generally no. The Separatist Alliance was like 95% droids controlled by megacorps funded by witless Outer Rim citizens with legitimate grievances, all controlled by the same evil wizard who had weaseled his way into control of the Republic (and probably engineered a lot of those grievances). Everyone in charge who wasn't a robot was some 2-dimensional scumbag with a name like Bhurn Kidsmann.

>>98166891
>>98166932
>>98166965


Google AI for free mentioned this when I asked it

Organic Leaders and Soldiers
• Cassian Andor: In canon, Cassian's backstory establishes that he was a child soldier who fought against the Galactic Fest that was backed by the Separatists. He eventually became a premier captain and intelligence officer for the Rebel Alliance. [1, 2, 3]
• Anto Kreegyr: Mentioned prominently in the series Andor, Kreegyr was a former Separatist soldier. After the Clone Wars, he organized a fierce, independent rebel cell that coordinated loosely with Luthen Rael's network. In the episode "One Way Out," Saw Gerrera heavily criticizes Kreegyr's political background, calling him a "Separatist" and highlighting the ideological rifts within the early rebellion. [1, 2, 3, 4]
• Lux Bonteri: The son of the late Separatist Senator Mina Bonteri, Lux briefly served in the Separatist Senate during The Clone Wars before defecting. After the rise of the Empire, he took on the alias "The Mentor" and led an extremist rebel cell called the Dreamers—an offshoot of Saw Gerrera's Partisans. [1, 2]
Droids and Fleet Elements
• General Kalani and the Agamar Holdout: In the Star Wars Rebels episode "The Last Battle," Captain Rex and the Ghost crew encounter General Kalani, a Separatist super tactical droid who never received the shutdown command. After Rex and Kalani realize they were both pawns of Palpatine, Kalani's battle droids join forces with the Rebels to blast their way through an Imperial boarding party. Kalani decides to actively assist the rebellion by providing valuable tactical intel, though he declines to fully enlist due to the low mathematical probability of the Rebellion's success. [, 2, 3, 4]
1,2

>>98166989
• Mister Bones (B1-Series Battle Droid): In the Aftermath novel trilogy, a heavily modified B1 battle droid named Mister Bones is built from scavenged Separatist parts by young Temmin "Snap" Wexley. Programmed with a chaotic personality and deadly martial arts, Mister Bones acts as a bodyguard and lethal asset for the New Republic during the final stages of the Galactic Civil War. [1]
• The Rebel Fleet: The Rebel Alliance was highly resource-starved and frequently salvaged abandoned Separatist warships. In both canon and Legends, the Rebellion actively retrofitted massive Separatist cruisers—such as Lucrehulk-class battleships and Recusant-class destroyers—to serve as heavy capital ships against Imperial Star Destroyers. [1, 3, 4]
Sector and Planetary Defections
• The Sullustans: In Legends, the corporate entities ruling Sullust were heavily tied to the Separatist Commerce Guild during the Clone Wars. When the Empire nationalized their shipyards, the local populace grew bitter and deliberately leaked industrial blueprints and ships to the Rebel Alliance, eventually hosting the massive Rebel fleet prior to the Battle of Endor. [1, 2]
• The Sector Rebellions: According to early galactic history books, many Outer Rim worlds that initially chose the Separatist side to escape Republic taxes found themselves enslaved, stripped of resources, and heavily punished by the Empire. Entire planetary militias that once carried the CIS banner naturally folded into the broader Rebel Alliance out of a shared necessity for survival. [2, 2]

>>98167011
I think I like the concept of a separate this leader who was not very noticeable hired a mercenary dude or strategist who managed to give him and his relative small forces of impressive victories and his strategist or general was the constant professional man on the job that is initially given reasonable advice at the time after General Grievous died that it would be in his employer's best interest to surrender but the moment the guy finds out what happened to the Jedi he's like okay something's messed up is going on with the Senate and the guy in charge of it and he and his dudes managed to by the newest margin save has about to insolanda Empirer from being executed and decided just and his employer would do an underground fighting against the empire since then and the strategist likes to say things like I made my bones against the Clones and no not the week ones they have now I mean the ones during the Clone Wars.

Someone just occurred to me did Count Dooku actually know his evil side master was in fact in charge of the Republic himself? I could imagine it being quite funny if he won that big bottle near the end of the prequel movie and either way there'll be a bunch of funny reactions if he did or did not know about the Sith Lord guy starting acting like I'm in charge of you and he doesn't know or he already did and everyone's wondering why did Dooku just switch sides .

>>98167258
Dooku was the only person other than Palpatine who knew about the whole Order 66 conspiracy. He thought they were going to wipe out the Jedi and make a Republic that worked for the people, and that it was just necessary for him to become pretty evil along the way to make that happen.

>>98167258
In the RotS novelization Dooku knew, though the didn't know Palpatine's true plan. He though the plan was that he'd be captured during the battle of Coruscant after killing Obi-Wan and sending Anakin up to falling to the Dark Side, then when Palpatine would take over he'd release Dooku from prison and make him his second in command. Meanwhile Anakin would become the general of a new order of dark Jedi. In reality Dooku's purpose from day one had been to act as the fall-guy and get killed by Anakin to start his fall to the Dark Side.

>>98166389
I liked the dudes with lightsabers, even though they didn't make much sense

>>98167258
It would be impossible for Palpatine to coordinate both sides of Clone Wars without Dooku knowing. Plus you're forgetting the scene in AotC where Dooku more or less directly tells Obi-Wan there's a Sith Lord in the Senate

>>98166867
This is my hope but it won’t happen
>get access to clone war drones, autistic kit and upgrade channel pre mission where subtle but expensive upgrades can be made to your extra special disposable assets
Think of the unmanned units from enemy unknown, except on squad slot option is just a droideka or b2, and another is a small horde of b1’s incapable of hitting. Other droids are fine too.
>introduce the hutts, specifically in a slave girl outfit armor kit option
Obligatory desu. Charlie’s angels x-com is a classic play through mission set.
>but really introduce the hutts so you get access to their scum thrall forces, specifically ganks, and so specifically I can make literally 1:1 MEC troopers in a Star Wars game
This last one is super never going to happen but is such a no brainer to me I can’t believe that’s the state of the world we live in.
>stretch goal: combine all 3
Yes. YES

>>98166374
>tq
The hutts. George got it right with the space dragon mob bosses being giant slugs. It only naturally got better from such great groundwork there. All their mook thrall species are classic greats, from the twailek to the dog and pig people or niktu and ganks.

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>>98166374
Something that might have been a good idea to reign in the excesses of the old and new jedi orders that I was thinking about is the concept of a half-brother (halbbruder) that seems to have been a thing in irl monastic orders. Full brothers often had to take strict vows of things like chastity or giving up thier worldly possessions, while half brothers took lesser vows like donating a percent of their income to the order or refraining from eating meat 3 days of the week. They could be full knights, but usually stayed in the intermediary levels of the order, the higher levels were usually dedicated to full on brothers.

This gives an outlet for anikan style outliers, giving a whole branch of those half commited, while still pushing someone to become fully dedicated to actually rise to the highest positions of leadership. Addressing some of the inflexibility of Yoda's old order and the laxity that plagued a good bit of Lukes order in the EU.

>>98167805
>introduce the hutts
I always thought it would be a kino idea to have a neutral third faction called "bounty hunters" that can fight for any side if you have enough coin. So in a campaign you can both hire and face them.

Waited for a new thread so it wouldn't be missed at the end of the last one, having seen the Mando movie, it's fine. It's like an entire season of the show with a much higher budget, and I have no complaints about that. It covers Din having to confront the fact Grogu won't just outlive him, he'll do it by centuries, and could still be a child when Din passes away. Zeb is meh, he's just kind of there, but he does get an action scene that's decent. Rotta is awesome, buff hutts are nothing new to the actual fandom, but it's very new for casuals. His age is a little off though, he acts like an adult but he's the hutt equivalent of a 15 year old. I kind of hope he shows up in something Ahsoka is in and she calls him Stinky. It was nice to see Din be the actual main character again, and Grogu either has some kind of genetic memory of Din is teaching him all kinds of shit because he made a smaller version of Yoda's house. Enbo was awesome as he should be, and still has the best hat. All in all, bootleg was a 7.5 out of 10, will watch again on home release.

>>98168439
I still think its stupid that grogu went back to mando after going with luke. Like WTF why are you WILLINGLY taking a literal toddler on bounty hunting missions when you dont have to to protect him?

Also I generally agree, the movie was overall just fine, just nothing special, but nothing bad either. Entertaining.

>>98168463
>taking a literal toddler on bounty hunting missions when you don't have to to protect him
The mouse decided Mandalorians needed to have the same attitude towards taking children into danger as the Jedi I guess. In the show it was different, he was either tracking Grogu down or taking him to find Jedi, but once he was an official foundling you would logically expect him to stay with the covert. But, if another Mando went on an errand maybe they would have taken their student along too, who knows. Star Wars tends to have much greater expectations of young people at lower ages than real life. I know there's been some criticism that it had no connection to any larger plot, but that's great, if everything is always connected to the same central plot it makes the galaxy feel small, we need more things that have no connection to the OT and it's story.

>>98168416
>every model you see is also playable
Would be easy to do if they make a generic “post game” mode that’s just like the tutorial campaign with the plot filed off.
Again, never ever.
Like starting in Europe or Africa: starting as CIS, hutt/scum, republic.
Think of the economies, recruit, and upgrade differentiations.
>droids get the lowest cheapest floor with b1, the cheapest elites with b2, and earl access to their high end in the droideka. Recruitments are easy, but upgrades while instant also instantly make your troops unsustainable and not worth it. Troops droid brains can’t garner experience effectively (high output eco)
Would like to see an OOM option for the b1 where it’s even shittier than usual but there’s like 4 droids and so 4 actions to a slot.
>republic gets the strongest low end at an economic price: the crone trooper, practically an elite. But upgrades outside of weaponry and exp up is next to non existent, and takes ages to implement. Jedi are the highest high end.
>scum have the worst return on base unit price, but the most diverse roster and access to equipment, with extremely niche builds. Their high end is a gank MEC or a mando (more flexible than a droideka, less force and magic sword cheating than the jedi)
That’s before you even get to the potential in having multiple era options like BF2

>>98168439
>>98168463
>>98168496
Mando was dead to me mid season 2. Never looked back. Will watch the movie because I heard the various departments did inspired work.
>tldr can ignore the movie, enjoy the theme park

>>98168526
>Never looked back.
I never got this mentality personally, it's so pessimistic. Sometimes things do get better.

>>98168496
>The mouse decided Mandalorians needed to have the same attitude towards taking children into danger as the Jedi I guess.
I can suspend my disbelief at least a little bit when they are old enough to at least talk in sentences.

>>98168546
>”why’d you stop engaging with rat shit, chud?”
How is it pessimistic to swear off rodent excrement? I don’t need to even care about the media to tell the later seasons were a mess. Which again, is fine since I don’t care. Trying to force slop is ten times more perverse.
At this point you can only hope for fans mods of half finished projects to be worth engaging with.
THATS pessimistic. But it’s better than has been the case since it became mouse wars.

>>98167011
Sullust was in deep with the Commerce Guild? That's news to me. Looking at that lore, though, I'd have expected you'd see more of that. There were worlds that depended on the megacorps, and nationalization would have hit them hard. Neimodians were out, because I don't think canon includes a single one with a spine, but some of the others must have tried, at least. Skakoans, maybe?

>>98168403
I think I just found the ninety-sixth thesis.

>>98168439
Based and enjoyer of things-pilled.

>>98168546
Sometimes. Most times things continue on the trend they're on unless there is a dramatic reason for them not to.

>>98168623
>mmm close your eyes and enjoy the hacked together sloppa from discordant uncultivated discarded bits (often done so just to degrade the viewer, as is tradition)
It’s all so tiresome…

>>98168637
This is the real black pill. The question: what’s changed? The answering being, probably nothing serious, maybe not even superficial. Same old filth machine debasing and destroying everything it touches.

>>98168664
I've tried both ways anon, and I've found that this one is better. I'm glass-half-full by nature, it is dispiriting to me to constantly rag on mediocre products. Does this make me Panglossian? Probably, but it's getting me through life in a much better mood than I was five years ago, so I'm okay with that.

On the subject of Candide, I will be candid and admit that I haven't seen Mando and Grogu. This isn't because I'm taking some moral stance against Disney, or slop films, or anything else. It's simply a reflection of laziness and introversion on my part. I have no one to go to the theater with, and no real interest in dragging myself out of the house on my own. Nor am I all that interested in tracking down a pirated version. If I get a chance, in five days or five years, to watch the movie, I will. If I don't, I won't. It is not essential to me that the movie be liked, nor is it essential that I see it. But if I'm gonna spend my money to see it, I'll take what I can get out of it, rather than grind my teeth over its shortcomings.

>>98168664
Being a whiny bitch all the time isn’t tiresome though, apparently.

>>98168771
>implying that taking stock is teeth grinding
>>98168804
>melty when reminded of the absolute state
Don’t get between a bottom feeder and its slop

>>98168578
So are you retarded or did you just go temporarily blind when it was time to read "get better?"

>>98168664
>hacked together sloppa from discordant uncultivated discarded bits
Tell me you didn't watch it without telling me.

>>98168878
>>98168888
>repeat yourself
>trust me
Don’t think I will. Go tick your tism into the 41% for all I care. Maybe the mouse will reincarnate you into something other than a raging retard in your next life, or wherever you subhumans believe while desperately wallowing in slop.

>>98168863
https://youtu.be/f0nYKgkFvMM

>>98168916
Calling someone autistic, when you're the one exhibiting the stereotypical autist behavior of not being able to comprehend someone liking something that you hate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV_PzRb1pLk

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>lukes DL-44 blaster renamed to just lukes blaster
>leias sporting blaster renamed to leias blaster
>upcoming guerilla fighters get "stolen blasters" instead of A-280 blasters they are clearly holding
>sleeper cell gets dual blaster pistols
>mando initiates get blaster carbines, but their upgrade is the GLAAR blaster rifle
>original corp choices still have weapons called A-280, E-11, etc
so what determines if they have an alpha-numerical blaster or "[name] blaster"?

>>98168945
Either they want to keep it simple for dumb people, or they want distinct variants of the same guns, so Luke's DL-44 vs a normal one, or for Luke's to be distinct from Han's since both used a DL-44, and they want players to not get them mixed up. But I suppose that's still just safeguarding against dumb people.

>>98168935
>>98168938
>effeminate projection and attention whoring
The lack of self awareness in the 41% is staggering. All because someone dared say they won’t waste time on rat slop.
Don’t pussy out in the next suicide attempt.

>>98168965
you literally started throwing a fit because people didn't stand up and clap for you going NEW THING BAD
you're the tranny here bud

>>98169071
>day 41
>literal raging faggot still can’t accept anyone holds a negative opinion about mouse stool
No one has a problem with you being a slop addicted retard. You don’t have to melty over it.

>>98169097
aww upset because your bait didn't get the response you wanted huh

>>98168957
come to think of it, early unit profiles did try to make it so all guns with the same name had the same stats
luke, han, and tauntaun riders all had 2R damage and all had DL-44s

maybe they thought the same gun dealing different damage profiles on different characters would be too confusing? (circling back to the average player being dumb)
could also be for custom models, so you arent nudged to give luke a DL-44

>>98169101
>new cope: admit to being a retarded faggot and pretend it was all bait
I’m starting to think you don’t even like Star Wars, and that’s why you defend Disney slop so aggressively.

>>98169133
nobody's defending anything
somebody said he enjoyed something and you threw a tantrum and now we're laughing at your childbrained meltdown

>>98169146
>”nobodies defending anything”
>t the instantly defensive faggot, before projecting yet again
Ok retard. Didn’t know calling mouse wars slop would send you spiraling like this. Take care.

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REPORT FROM THE FRONT
In our KOTOR era d20 game, the motley crew of the Brilliant Tusk arrived at Planet Arkuse. They were immediately set upon by a roving pack of lunatic war droids. The captain, a sultry scoundrel, ate some nasty wounds but survived.
Later they encountered the former Jedi Ganther. Wielding his yellow blade as a torch, he explained that the droids are stuck in an endless loop, they fight a meaningless civil war (unaware that their Arkusen masters are long dead). He seems less concerned about the settlers and tomb raiders who are caught up in the conflict.
Ganther is an odd duck. He treats intelligent droids exactly like people, and to him this machine vs machine war is as terrible as any human conflict.
The party face, a (handsome?) Bith Jedi, does not fully trust this Ganther. But if they are to acquire the Arkusen Power Source needed for the war effort, they’ll have to trust him.
For now.
We are only one session in and my players already pinned this as my shitty KOTOR III pitch. It’s never been more over.

>>98169175
>spoiler
Nice. Gotta love when everyone’s one the same page lol

>>98169171
the projection is wild

>If you want a picture of the future of rhetoric, imagine two white men calling each other brown and/or tranny, forever.

>>98169215
Except they are both brown trannies

>sorry make that “three” white men

>>98169175
>Bith
Always weirds me out when people play species like this. Next thing you'll tell me is somebody actually played a paaerduag

>>98166891
The new SW X-COM game will have them, the trailer says some of your crew are seps.
I have a premonition that only half of the game will take place in the clone wars (it came to me in a dream), so this will count.

>>98169513
>it came to me in a dream
Wonder how they will handle the age switch. The trailer showed ani.
>just him walking out (into the greater plot) and back in(to the game) as is vader
Would be so funny

>>98169524
Probably just a timeskip, like BF2.

>RULE OF TWO
>only two guys can be sith
>except there are tons of not-sith running around either self-trained like witches of dathomir or trained by vader and the emperor to fuck each other over, like the inquisitors or luke's non-canon wife from the old EU
Explain this

>>98170184
Any self-trained Dark Side users wouldn't count since the Sith had no part in training them and wouldn't consider them members of the Sith order.
The other cases are the Sith playing by rules as written instead of rules as intended, because did you honestly believe a bunch of evil egotistical space-wizards would slavishly follow any rules if they could benefit from bending them? In order to maintain their Sith street-cred they make a point of their Dark Side acolytes/assassins/inquisitors/whatever not being "real Sith" because they never taught them the finer points of Sith philosophy, but for all intents and purposes as far as anybody else is concerned the evil Force-user with a red lightsaber is a Sith and they're just making excuses to have their cake and eat it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLgkobLVzkg

>>98170184
>philosophy built on the god of the self and defiance of rules cannot abide by rules set out by its own adherents

>>98170184
the short answer is that the rule of two was invented for the movies and its followed to the letter in the prequels
maul isnt replaced by tyrannus until maul is dead, and vader doesnt replace tyrannus until he kills him

the rule only changes in the OT, where the emperor implores vader to take on luke with the unstated implication they will be a trio
but this is immediately backpedaled on in the next movie, where the new unstated outcome is that theres only one free position for apprentice
given the real world context of the OT going first, its obvious they wrote they were writing the rule of 2 based around ROTJ

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>>98166374
Was siege of Mandalore Vraks of the Star Wars?

>>98170825
That was Mygeeto.

>>98170825
Umbara was noted to still be resisting imperial rule during Rogue One. Imagine being a stormtrooper sent to continue the 20 year long siege

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>>98170874
>>98171169
Yeah, Mygeeto or Umbara's a much better choice. Umbara even has the staggering casualties induced by deliberate incompetence.

>>98169499
You will play a Gand and you will like it.

>>98172196
I exclusively play cute near human girls in my star wars rpgs, thank you. Miralians, Arkanians, zabraks, etc

>>98170825
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JLv-XkPNS0

mandalorians and their death cult are the closest thing to warhammer in star wars

>>98172439
Do Mandos actually qualify as a death cult? Muh honorabu warrior societies are susceptible to degenerating into that, but I've always thought of the Mandos as very analogous, culturally, to Klingons, and I certainly don't think of Klingons as a death cult.

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I'm about to start DMing Star wars Game I'm trying to find like on more glep alien races do you guys know any YT channels where I get my more lore on all the cool races? the best I channal I've found is this one but they don't have that many videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqKeG6Lu7_Q

>>98172439
sorry, you are playing the chad gand instead of the incel near-human.

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>>98172623
>chagrian
>twi'lek
fucking AI

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>>98172471
Mandalorians are a warrior culture with a lot of sub-cultures attached to them, like True Mandalorians, Death Watch, and the Children of the Watch from the tv show. There are also the New Mandalorians who threw away their warrior culture to pretend there's something else but you tell them they can wear armor again they go back to the old way in under a year.

>>98172703
She is a hybrid dumbass

>>98172767
It's low effort sloppa

>>98172767
you thought any of that looked good lmao, making you the biggest dumbass ITT

>>98172623
>twilek who hates slavers
This is like a Mando who hates war. Unnatural.

>>98170184
Pretenders, fetishists, cultists, out croppings.

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>>98166374
pitch me a 10 episode series about Star Wars, bonus points if has nothing to do with the skywalker family and Jedi.

Let it take place from 5bby to 5ABY, you can make it take place in the EU

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>>98173400
Rebel Command. The people yearn for Generation Kill in Star Wars.

>>98173400
I don't care that much for the Dark Times or the GCW, with apologies to the OT boomers, so I'm ignoring your second sentence.

A short, slice-of-life series about the Confederate Parliament. It should be played straight, so it's only meta-humorous to the audience as our cast celebrate the sage advice of Count Dooku and the battlefield heroics of General Grievous. Bring back the Irish-accented green chick that one anon simps for. And if you really must try and show cracks in the facade of the Separatists as good guys, include subplot about others finding out Mina Bonteri's death was not at the Republic's hands, as was initially portrayed to them.

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>>98173400
Ten episodes is way too many, but I always wanted a miniseries centered on elite Stormtrooper commandos. Not to glaze the Empire or anything, but showing why someone might join, the moral compromises they make, the struggle, and ultimately the horror of seeing the Death Star go kaboom.
Basically just copy what Gundam has done flawlessly since War in the Pocket.

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is opluke really old and busted now?
everyone is talking about how cluke is overall stronger

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>>98173400
Easy mode; Star Wars: Shadow of the Apostate
Late 2 ABY. A small rebel cell is evading Imperial capture, when word reaches them that several rebel allied settlements hiding supply caches in the remote outer rim have been raided. Moving to assist, the cell finds that they have been sacked by an individual wielding a lightsaber, who has taken much of the weaponry stocked there. Fearing the Empire is conducting asymmetrical warfare against them, the cell resolves to hunt down the looters. After investigation they find it isn't the Empire, but an order 66 survivor who has turned to the dark side, and begun a dark jedi coven, experimenting in all manner depraved sorcery (force tulpas, magic, etc. etc.) Conflict ensues.

Hard Mode; Star Wars: Armada (I know about the tabletop game, but I'm lazy, so roll with it)
0 ABY; a few months after the Battle of Yavin. A rebel officer recently promoted to rear admiral is tasked with assembling the eager recruit ready to join the fight after the fall of the empire into a proper fighting cells. The series follows the mustering and training of the rebels, the stealing of fighters and civilians ships to retrofit them into warships, and their first skirmishes with the Empire, loosing their first few, before winning some sort of victory at series end.

>>98173691
>I don't care if it's your bi-olo-gee, you WILL po-lease those jowls private Numb!
>Yebo babo bee boo boop

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>>98173800
Yes, (Prime) Minister in Star Wars sounds kino anon.

>>98172623
That is not a twi'lek in any way, that's more like a Harch/Nautolan hybrid.

>>98170184
Using the dark side isn't what makes someone Sith.

>>98173400
New Republic military is in it's infancy, fighting a still very powerful Imperial navy. Rebel turned NR pilots get reinforced, but it's with former Imperial TIE pilots, who managed to defect with their fighters, now outfitted with hyperdrives. Now the five Imperial and five former rebel pilots must work together, overcome their past enmity, at some point one of them learns one of the pilots on the other side of the squad shot down one of their family members, maybe two of them hook up, and they operate out of a new Alderaan-class NR star destroyer.

>>98173691
Fuck off, you were wrong in the last thread and you're wrong now. There is no such thing as non-space opera Star Wars.

>>98174094
Its a chagrian retard

man korea and japan REALLY like the mando and grogu

>>98174147
No, it's not. Too many head things, hers are segmented like lobster legs, and she doesn't have the cranial horns.

>>98173974
I don't think I agree, but there are a lot of things which make CLuke more attractive:
>Low price
With Strike Teams making a comeback and Imperial probes getting popular there is kind of an activation arms race so CLuke and especially TaunLuke being cheaper helps them.
Also Snipers make expensive units like OpLuke harder to use.
>Courage sharing
Rebels have 3 Courage 3 options:
Jyn, who is better in Rebel Troopers
Proven Tactician, who is good but just a support commander
CLuke who is pretty great as a melee threat or melee counter
So yeah, that also helps CLuke
>More/better melee threats and counters
Mandos, Chewie Wookies, Electrostaff pirates, Kallus, Ventress BXs... there is a bunch of dangerous melee units that make OpLuke's job harder whereas CLuke and TaunLuke can more easily get their points back.

Also I think TaunLuke is the one who is replacing OpLuke.

>>98174180
It has everything they love: slugs, babies, swamps, and cowboys.

>>98174180
They are used to a churn of cheap movies which are just extended TV specials.

>>98173400
Legends Rogue Squadron comics made into a series.

>>98173400
Slice of life set in medieval world. Centering around the daughter of a tavern owner and her one street town neighbor in a CW brain rot kind of way.
Some episodes in you realize “wait, this is Star Wars!” And the old man ancestor the kid has been talking about was a sith when he/she pulls out a lightsaber from above the fireplace/alter and murks a monster that’s actually a Vrblther.
Turns out the planet is in hutt space and the hutts are on safari. The game is people.
One gets captured, other stows away on ship, dodging a slave implant before slipping into the slave headcount. season ends with them both killing some fellow villager to make the head count add up, surrounded by aliens and with the hutts being served living drinks on a yacht, laughing into the void of space.
Season 2 is nul hutta, where one decides to ingratiate self with the hutts, and the other seethes about it and keeps head down. Back half of season after struggling with high school drama, but between slaves, is them getting taken as a retinue to space market on a planet that looks like space Miami. Slaves get lost, drama ensues on if to return or not, and under what conditions, with what goal.

>>98174096
>bait posting
Anyone can use the dark side. Sith has more specific qualifiers.

>>98174128
Fuck space opera and suck my cock. Star Wars is not for YOU because we don't WANT you in this thread. Now, fuck off.

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>Oh I love Star Wars
>Just not the things that make it Star Wars
>All the things that make Star Wars unique are the shit I hate the most
>But I love the generic slop bits that could fit in any setting and want that to be the whole thing.
>Therefore you're not welcome in MY fandom
How about you blow a shotgun barrel to completion? It'll be a happy ending for the rest of us by proxy. And after the pellets are done pinging off your tungsten brain you can go create a Rebel Moon general since that seems more your taste.

>>98175082
Star Wars is the setting. It's the planets, it's the ships, it's the galactic history. This is a thread about discussing traditional games set within the Star Wars universe. Like 80% of those games don't even include Force Sensitives, let alone Force Users, Jedi and Sith.

The thread quite literally isn't for you. /v/ and /tv/ might be more up your alley. But since I know where you're from (/co/), it is much more appropriate for you to make like the rest of your tranny kind and off yourself. Right now, immediately.

>>98175169
Very interesting.
Now what happens on those planets, in those ships and is a major driving factor on that galactic history that separates it from other sci-fi settings?
>Ur durnt play gae-
I've posted in these very threads about my ongoing game using Traveller, which is just about the least force-orientated system you could pick for doing a Star Wars campaign.
Still has Force Users in it and rightfully so.
Doing a game in Star Wars with zero force is like doing a game in Battletech without any mechs.

So how about you stop being a noncing faggot?

>>98175176
The thing with Star Wars is that it mashes things together from multiple 'verses seamlessly and gives you a large playing field. It's essentially the least restrictive setting imaginable, unless you're JJ Abrams or Red Letter Media, both of who have a collective sub-IQ of 20.

Okay, let's hear about your game then, how's it going?

>>98175176
what compels people to want to play a star wars campaign that only has han solo but no luke or obi-wan?
even when theres no jedi in my game, i make sure to have a moment that would warrant playing the force theme

>also because i spent money on FaD and giving the players an oppurtunity to buy into the force later on gives me a reason to open it

>>98175176
>Doing a game in Star Wars with zero force is like doing a game in Battletech without any mechs.
Funnily enough, Mechwarrior RPG/AToW (the crunchy BT roleplaying game) has no rules for mech combat, since if you want to do that you should just be playing Battletech. The RPG is primarily geared toward stuff that would be too small-scale for an actual BT game, like playing as a specops infantry team. You can play as mechwarriors, but in that case whenever you board your mechs you're expected to put the RPG books aside, get out your BT mapsheets and miniatures, and handle any mech-related activities in a separate BT game before going back to the RPG.

>>98175191
That's pretty much what I'm saying.
Doing a Star Wars game without any influence from The Force is like doing a Battletech game where Mechs aren't even mentioned. They're a foundational part of what makes it a unique universe/setting and have such an impact on it that you have to go out your way to avoid them being mentioned to get it.

>>98175186
Pretty damn well actually, the group is currently having a stop of on Vjun to investigate some leads they found on Dooku having a safe house there.
They're currently unaware of it but I decided as DM to really lean into the "Vjun is where the Tapani nobility that survived the Cleansing of the Nine Houses snuck off to in order to avoid being purged" making it a veritable untapped mine of Sith relics.
Currently they're there to hijack a consignment of A-series assassin droids that they have every reason to believe were left on world (And in the case of one of the players, to steal any art left behind, because while everyone else is a pleb who only wants practical things, he's a patrician who enjoys beautiful things), completely unaware that they're about to a triple forward flip into some absolute bullshit.

How about your game buddy, how's it going? Got any stories you want to share?

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>>98166989
>Oh no, *I* don't believe in or support any of the evil things the Seperatists say or think or do.
>I will fully devote my political, financial, and military resources to ensuring their victory however, because um...democracy is worse than rule by megacorps?
Yup, like he said, ontologically evil. Capitalists supporting fascists to protect their wealth from either right-nationalists or left-populists attempting to use the democratic apparatus to reign in their grotesqueries and excesses is something that happens so routinely anyone sane long ago stopped distinguishing between the two(note: "capitalism" is not markets, trade, or mediums of exchange, it is a specific ideological construct that uses those tools in a particular way and only the fact that capitalists have successfully coopted education, academia, and the media has led you to believe that the stones which built the building can have no other form).

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>>98168957
Actually this is the superior Historichad way of approaching things and it should be done for all units. Weapons should be named by category - blaster pistol, heavy plaster pistol, blaster carbine, blaster rifle etc etc etc - with the standard equipment of each unit laid out in their fluff blurbs, but the ultimate choice of what weapon from that category to use left up to the player. Up until the modern defence-industrial complex completed its capture of governments in the 90's and confined ingenuity and individuality to special operations units(so specops equipment could be marketed specifically for that purpose at a 5000% markup), soldiers frequently supplemented or outright replaced their standard issue equipment with enemy or third party gear they'd bought, found, or looted which they personally considered superior. That's even more true for insurgencies, which often have to make do with whatever they can loot or steal.

Star Wars has always been Mid 20th Century Warfare In Spaaaaace, so that vibe fits it perfectly.

>>98172196
Unironically played a Gand on an RP server in SWG as one of my characters. Managed to bodge together something that *vaguely* approximated the right look using the Bothan race and a mix of gear with a full face helmet, man that character was a huge pain in the arse but fun for a while. This Gand did in fact like it.

>>98175241
Han Solo was alive at the tail end of the Clone Wars and he didn't even believe the Force was fucking real. Jedi were such a rarity and so far outside the experience of the ordinary person that the Empire was able to make them a mythical irrelevance in the collective memory of the galaxy with a mere couple of decades of propaganda. There have been entire periods of galactic history where the Jedi Order barely existed at all having been driven into hiding or borderline exterminated by their enemies.

For literally almost everyone in the galaxy including all your player characters, the Force is some weird religious belief that a few crackpots in red burkas on that weird statue planet are really into, or which is used by hucksters and charlatans to bilk people for fake "healing". Yes, we know the Force is real and exists and has some influence on the galaxy, but that's OOC information not something that should be driving the behaviour and narratives of 99.99999% of galactic affairs.

Just admit you went gay for Hayden Christiansen as a young lad and move on.

>>98175390
its a little inconsistent though
since corps still have specific weapons mentioned, rebel troopers still have their A-280 and stormtroopers have the E-11
luke and leia had their weapons genericized but han and lando still have their DL-44 and X-8 blasters

even with the mandalorians, the blaster carbine is just a blaster carbine but the GALAAR carbine gets a name

>>98175288
How do you justify environment specific troopers being in an environment they're not made for? Not judging, you painted them nicely I just recently got the Hoth empire box and I haven't done anything with the snowtroopers because I'm going for a jungle/swamp theme.

>>98175421
>Jedi were such a rarity and so far outside the experience of the ordinary person
jedi were known far and wide, even watto knows what jedi are capable of even if he never met one themselves
jedi werent even all that mysterious, they literally lived on the capital of the galaxy and had a hand in galactic affairs
they got sent on ambassador missions and contributed directly and tangibly

and once the clone wars started and jedi were fighting on the frontlines and meeting people on dozens of different planets and creating a reputation as both individual fighters and master tacticians, then theres no way they would fade from the galactic pop culture

>Just admit you went gay for Hayden Christiansen as a young lad and move on.
han solo had his lines written before they even knew they would have an episode 5 much less the prequels

george simply decided that the prequels looked different than what he imagined 20 years prior and quietly ignored the implications of han solos lines in favor of showing the jedi as being far more involved in galactic affairs than he might have originally

>>98175788
I think you can reinterpret snowtroopers as more generally harsh weather guys.
For the basing theme, I figured a harsh desert type planet also works if the suit was made a bit less warm.

>>98174972
Now this is magical realm. I commend the autism, anon.

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>>98175390
Dumbest post I've read this week.

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>>98174180
What went wrong with Americans?

>>98177051
Americans and Yuros have no whimsy

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>>98177051
They can't get over having deserved 9/11.

>>98177074
>*Americans and Euros got the full load of Disney DEI

>>98177493
I forgot about that secret cut they have of the mando movie in korea and japan that removes all this DEI

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>>98177518
>>98174180

>>98177664
didn't mean to quote the first one

>>98175042
Still don't get it, if it's not space opera then it's simply not star wars in the first place.

>>98177518
>pretend that the last 5 years of insulting the audience didn't happen

>>98177841
It's ok to be mad about all the garbage the mouse has made, your feelings are valid, but that doesn't mean the good stuff isn't good.

>>98177518
There's a lot wrong with the film but none of it is about blacks or women. Same with TLJ: the problem stems from the stupid plot, not who they gave the stupid lines to. Rey could be played by Hugh Jackman and it'd be equally stupid.

>>98177245
Okay Hasan calm down, leave the dog alone.

>>98178104
>Rey could be played by Hugh Jackman and it'd be equally stupid.
That would have been a lot more entertaining, especially when he starts having a psychic romance with Ben Swolo.

>>98178104
>and it'd be equally stupid
But ten thousand times funnier

>>98178104
>There's a lot wrong with the film
Like what? For me, I could tell the effects ere a little lackluster in a few places, the shot of the AT-AT falling over and off a cliff looked like some PS2 shit, Rotta needed a deeper voice and the NR not having any pilots under 50 is getting retarded, but food vendor Scorsese was funny, the action was good, it was the most tolerable Zeb has ever been, it could have been better but it's their second best movie so far.

>>98173400
This >>98173691
but a non-linear about a group of Storm Troopers. Start with a ground battle between imperials and rebels, both sides of the conflict and flashbacks to being boots together and their friendships, adversity and conflict as some aim to defect to the rebels. Ties in the context of everyone on the battlefield, all the little conicidences and bits.
Ends with ambiguous scene, uncertain if the last two friends kill each other or not.

>>98177664
Pure Beskar, blaster s& kinetic resistant but highly conductive.

>>98178104
I mean, that's wrong. An actor of sufficient charisma can elevate even a shitty movie. Everyone thinks Kylo Ren was pretty good of a character specifically because Adam Driver gave it his all, despite Kylo not really being all that interesting when you think about it. Giving Rey a better actor/actress could've done wonders.

But ultimately it came down to the OTard delusion of needing to have a nobody in the leading role.