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>>98173506I like painting minis. I feel like people who burn out don't really enjoy modeling or painting.
I’ve heard from here that on other social medias people are asking each other now for models to be posted like we do.When did this start and are other autisms from here leaking?>>98173506>tqI just like it.
>>98173518>I feel like people who burn out don't really enjoy modeling or painting.That might be me but I swear I’m in the miniature painter’s equivalent of a Lego fan’s dark age.Maybe that’s why gw keeps nostalgia baiting to get money from those guys when they come back every edition.
>>98173506You niggers really can’t help yourselves.
>>98173541What angered you in this thread?
>>98173506That guy should have worn a helmet
I like orks :D>>98173506>TQ: What keeps you into 40k?I like painting the orks, and looking at them on my shelf, imagining them enjoying a good rest inside its wooden confines in between fights. it also helps that they’re xenos and pretty unrelatable by their nature, so there hasn’t been any nulore changes that might demoralize me.
>>98173559Nice models and nice feet bro!That explanation was also pretty nice too.
>tqsunk cost fallacy
>prime black>light colored paints always come out chunky because I need like 5 coats for good coveragewhat do I do?
>>98173581prime grey next time, dummy.
>>98173584No.
>>98173581Thin layers with ample time to dry between applications.Or a better undercoat. I prime black, slap on Rakarth, and then Averland goes over well enough with a 2-3 layers as opposed to 560.
>>98173506I like grots
>>98173527>Lego fan’s dark age.AKA growing up without getting dragged back and buying a nintendo switch.Hypocritical for a 40k fan but I feel like there's still a difference.
>>98171188How the fuck is 12K marines too few? That's a legion.
>>98173506>pulling on a head detaches it from the jawEh?
>>98173581It shouldn't be chunky, it seems you're still underthinning it in hopes of keeping some coverage.I don't like going straight from black to light colors but when I do the coat has got to be thinned for smoothness first, coverage second. If it's smooth enough you don't even need full coverage to look good, but if your mind is set on this approach and you're in it to win it, you might need like 10 coats of a particularly troublesome paint.Or just undercoat.
>>98173643It's like vigilus, an all hands on deck shitshow.Keep in mind it took multiple legions to take Ullanor the first time.
>ork fans: "dey just want a good fight! they're amoral ruffians just looking for the good fight XD">look at the actual lore>slaughter women and children by the billions on hive worlds>slaughter people much lesser then them who surrender>attack peaceful agri worlds that obviously stand no chance>murder each other, internal politics often lead in simple brutal murder>many, many accounts of them relishing in cruelty and doing completely unnecessarily cruel or sadistic things to each other and to victimsWhy did people lie to me about this, and why did so many people do it? Where did this collective mandela effect come from?
>go to GW store to pick up Leadbelcher primer since it’s the only place that has it in store>they already have their store copy of the 11th edition models laid out on their tablesFuck I am not immune to advertisements.
>>98173581>wants bright minis>primes in black instead of the all superior white
>>98173506>tqIt’s the one communal hobby I can reliably do without ever having to interact with women or niggers
I've never been into 40k and I barely know any of the lore or rules.
>>98173667Imperials would do the same to Xenos if given the chance, so it's hard to feel sorry for them.
>>98173667Because it's the same type of people that only say "the Imperium are the good guys, don't look at all the bad things we do", of course Ork fans are gonna glaze the parts of Orks that are fun.
>>98173667One is how Orks view themselves and the other is how the rest of the galaxy views Orks. To be fair to the Ork players, GW seems to much prefer portraying them as goofy hooligans.
>>98173667It's been a dichotomy between green hooligans and murder monsters since the beginning, they've always been goofy cockneys but the fact that they solely live for violence has to be taken to its logical conclusion.>>98173686>Imperium does bad things to fight the enemies of humanity so they're on the same level as bugs that will just eat you.
>>98173506>TQI like the setting, the minis, the game, I just like it.
>>98173667A lot of this can be handwaved by the fact Orks don't have a concept of civilians or non-combatants and beating up puny weaklings until the follow you or die or something bigger comes to fight for them is standard green skin organization
>>98173707That would be a 10/10 selection of models if you replaced the grey knight with a normal termie.
>>98173708>handwavedtvtropes and its consequences have been a disaster for fictionIt's literally just a possible explanation, there's no Jedi mind trick, nobody's waving their hand, it's a theory.
Has anyone ever given up and just thrown a mini out? I remember I was trying to kitbash something and I fucked it up so badly I just ditched it.
>>98173704Fans of any faction will always highlight the best parts of it to people instead of the worst. If you're going to pull this "they emphasize with the bugs before humanity" tier of retarded commentary, then you can fuck off.
Post models.Got any plans for this month's collage? Quick and nimble/blanche tribute
>>98173739I melted a resin mini when I was new.I use superglue and a lot of times it can be broken with some care, if I really need to. Benefit compared to plastic cement.
>>98173667I don't think anyone lied to you, did anyone ever explicitly tell you they left civilians alone?
>>98173739I managed to fuck up the push fit leviathan termie captain by breaking off the top ornament, miss drilling one of the storm bolter barrels and trying to fix it y turning it into a big single barrel storm bolter, and putting a MK7 helmet on the body instead of the head or proper termie helmet. I decided to just never touch that model ever again.
>>98173763It's retard hours, if you say something you like about a faction you have to also acknowledge the war crimes they committed (it's 40k that's literally everyone).
>>98173581Use Citadel Corax White. Use it as a basecoat for bright paints. It has amazing coverage, I only need 2 thin coats over black.Pick up some stainless steel mixing balls from The Army Painter, drop in 1 or 2 to your Corax White.
Redpill me on the dark angels
>>98173749as soon as I’m done with my big mek, I’m going to these little fucks. I asked, and someone told me to paint them Necromundan 8th, so I guess I’m going to have fun freehanding spiders.
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>>98173704>does bad things fight the enemies of humanityWhy do imperiumfags always resort to this cope? The majority of the things that make the Imperium evil are done simply do to dogmatic zealotry, paranoia, bureaucratic incompetence, and casual disregard for human life. Ultramar is proof that humanity CAN survive the 41st millennium without going full dystopian.
>>98173672I want a dark mini but there are some light parts. If I wanted a light mini I would prime grey or prime black and basecoat grey with an airbrush.
>>98173812based
>>98173799Everybody talks about the gay rumors but nobody talks about the cool spy vs. spy shit they get up to.>they're still a legion, the chapters are a legal fiction>their codex astartes command structure is mostly a fiction>they do alpha legion shit like not telling normies who's in charge>as part of becoming Inner Circle, they're subjected to a psychological matrix scenario where their loyalty is tested>the Consecrators are essentially S.T.A.L.K.E.R. in space, their job is hunting down DA history so no one else does
>>98173819Wow I hope the good guys (Ultramar) beat the bad guys (Imperium)!What's that? Ultramar is part of the Imperium?
>>98173833It's a semi-autonomous realm with considerably different governance, not beholden to the ministorum or administratum's retardation to the same degree as the rest of the Imperium. Nothing you just wrote disproves my point.
>>98173667>Noooo how could be my fight-obsessed kill innocent people? In 40k? For no reason besides a fight? I thought they were those funny "le fight bro" chill ruffians!!!You fooled yourself, anon.
>>98173581Airbrush zenithal probably
when people will assume there is no good guys in this setting and everyone is equally fucked up? included tau.
>>98173574I feel ya man.>>98173631The dark ages in the Lego definition is when one steps away from Lego to go back. The reasons vary.
>>98173819>The majority of the things that make the Imperium evil are done simply do to dogmatic zealotry, paranoia, bureaucratic incompetence, and casual disregard for human life.Rick Priestley said otherwise, cope.
>>98173871When their IQ dips below 70.
>>98173871There are no good guys.The imperium of man is just the necessary and lesser evil needed for mankind’s survival.
>>98173885>consider the possibility >cheeky smiley faceYes, this absolutely means he 100% believes that everything the "cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable" does is entirely necessary.
>>98173506I actually like most of the lore, the whole primaris marine debacle excluded, and being able to “play” or partake in that realm other than reading about it is a ton of fun. Besides, when moments like a plucky guard sergeant finishes off an enemy warlord with his power sword is a ton of narrative fun.
>>98173893The cheeky smiley face is the give away, he's being too polite to tell this guy with his obviously loaded, leading political questions about the Imperium that he's way off the fucking mark, so he's just "suggesting" it as a "you have to consider". Read between the lines.
Are the ratlings back in the guard for 11th if the kill team was any indication?I’m planning on picking up some wga sneakfeet.>pic relatedThere’s also Victoriaminiatures’s halfling snipers.https://victoriaminiatures.com/products/halfling-snipers-10-man-squad?_pos=2&_sid=2c7a689f5&_ss=rWill they both look fine together to mix things up?
>TQShould I get into 40kIt's big and in every fucking corner I go to so might as well bite the bullet and try it out. But it also looks too dense and extensive to get into as a fully grown adult in 2026, too much shit to catch up with. But that doesn't stop it from being brought up in every fucking place I go to
Just finished. One more Repentia to go!
>>98173926Buy a single model you like and some paints/brushes and prime the model and paint it.If you liked it then the hobby is for you.If you didn’t then at least you didn’t spend too much.Then varnish and put the model somewhere you won’t lose it so you can look back on it as your painting improves.
>>98173937Looks good and I like the shade of brown.I need to know what paints you used for that.
>>98173926Find a part of it that interests you and get into that, you don't have to absorb the entire thing.
>>98173951Thanks. I use a brand called Legendary Paints. >(Base) Deep Sienna>(Highlight) Harvest Brown>50:50 Harvest Brown/Mercurian Flesh>Mercurian Flesh>(Glaze) Transparent Brown
If they’re still doing cheaper versions of the starter set I may get that, No way I’m painting the new guys as Ultramarines though, I have a whole army of them.
I like all the cadians. I just do.I want my “variety geared” guard army to have a variety of gear and a little hint of 3 different flavors of cadian models.I have stl remakes of the middle cadians.Finding the old originals shouldn’t be too difficult.The problem now is remakes of the kneepad ones remade into the chunky heroic scale of its two predecessors variants.Has any stl maker done that with the new cadians?The three varieties of cadians is just to be a silly little Easter egg.
>>98173972It'll get the leviathan treatment and broken into smaller starter sets not long after.
>>98173926>>98173955This is good advice. For me that part of 40K was Space Hulks and the cleansing thereof.
>>98173968Thanks!I’ll have to do some web searching then check the swatches.Ak and tamiya are what are sold near me.I have never worked with tamiya acrylic paints before.Are they good coverage because Japan is good at everything so says weebs?Are their pots better than gw’s pots?
>>98173986>Ak and TamiyaI have never used those brands so I can't offer advice. But yeah, there are a lot better paints out there than Citadel without even getting into how paints from dropper bottles are better than pots.It mostly comes down to preference.
>>98173986I don't have any experience with Tamiya, but I've been having really good luck with everything I've gotten from AK, particularly their metallics.
>>98173979I'm still thinking about that 10th ed starter set$100 is pretty good for what you get, at least in modern GW terms
>>98173999I wanted to break free from citadel paints but marine juice recipe needed darktone lahmian medium and reikland fleshshade all dumped into a pot with a glass agitator, cap closed and the shaken.I did not break free from the citadel paints.
>>98173918Ratlings were in 10th
>>98174001>their metallicsTheir acrylics or their non acrylic metallics?
>>98174002Nothing wrong with getting the old set, it'll just come down to preference with what space marine minis you want and whether you want half of them to be orks or tyranids.
>>98174009Thanks! Looks like I’ll buy some then and maybe see how the war games atlantic cannon fodder ogryns they call brutes look when released.I remembered seeing an anon once make a remote mine using Victoria miniatures beastmen bits. I might copy that.
>>98174011I just stick to their acrylic lines for minis. Don't think I'd try their beeswax-based paints on minis. I forgot they also have the paint pens, which are decent for trim, though a bit big for some Warhamms trims.
>>98174023Yeah I just finished a squad in march brother
I thought I was reading a book by the same author, but it's a different guy. I know books aren't their main product, but would it kill them to hire someone who doesn't go on in paragraphs about shit that is ultimately irrelevant or never mentioned again? It's like the characters keep having the same fucking conversation every time they show up when the named literally who mooks aren't getting killed off or falling to chaos. They manage to make warhammer feel so dull and boring.
>>98174003I mean, it's not my problem if you buy Citadel but it would take like 5 minutes to figure out the alternatives from another brand.
>>98174049Name the book.>paragraphs about shit that is ultimately irrelevant or never mentioned again?Kino. Imagine being a plotfag.
A friend of mine built his first gunpla that was labeled as “entry grade.”The plastic set up is amazing. No glue or any tools required.Did the easy to build gw minis ever come close to that? Is gw gonna take notes and make future sprues for getting kids in require no tools for assembly?
>>98174069Cult of the WarmasonAlso, the writers trying to write action and tense military operations, but they don't give you enough details like they actually thought about what a military commander and soldiers would do, so it just reads like a bunch of disjointed action scenes where x character you've been following somehow makes it out unharmed and y dies until x finally makes the one wrong move or gets infected by chaos or genestealers or whatever the fuck.
>>98174078They still need sprue removal and cleanup. You could get buy with clippers and a hobby file. I don't know how gunpla gets around that.
>>98174079IDK, maybe it's bad. The only thing I read by C L Werner was Setting the Stage, and it didn't knock my socks off.
>>98174032Very nice lads.The red hats oddly enough make me want to sculpt cone hats to make the stls into sniper gnomes.>>98174081I think them being bigger is what let’s them get away with that.I heard of gundam assemble that will be Bandai’s minis but I think they’re gonna be priced pretty expensively to be cheap when compared to games workshop pricing.That’s how all mini making companies do it.I doubt Bandai will be the exception.
>>98174091A lot of these stories get lost in ridiculous nonfactors. Paragraphs about how shitty certain rooms look or the planet or whatever the hell is in their immediate surroundings. Meaningless circular conversations where nothing is actually discussed or progressed. It's like they read a guide of what's considered good writing than actually tried writing the story they want to. Who knows? Maybe BL has some mandates or something. A lot of these read like they could've been told in just 50 pages rather than 200+ or 300+.
has anyone here ever gotten doxxed via their minis?
>>98174110Someone who worked at an LGS I used for an army photo op I posted here recognized the terrain, but that's about it. They didn't know me personally.
>>98174079Awful lot of sister killing instead of breeding in that book. You'd think the genestealers would try infecting the people in power armor in positions of authority over killing them.
>>98174110That's why I don't post anything online unfortunately
>>98174114Read Cult of the Spiral Dawn.Fehervari wins again.
>>98173905NTA but I think you might be reading that smiley face in the wrong direction.
>>98174134did that tooand you don't even see itat best, it's mentioned the sister the heresy originated from was bred, leading into her descendant magi
>>98174150>and you don't even see itI don't know what you expected, you might have to do some one-handed writing on AO3 if that's what you're looking for.
>>98174136No you dumbass, you are the one doing that. Read the rude way Bifford asked the question by trying to tell the guy who created the Imperium what they are about, and how he closes the whole thing with that line shutting him down saying "actually have you even stopped to consider the Imperium might have had to do those things?"
>>98174186Spergy…
>>98174166i expected something at least likeHoly task done, she knelt before the alter and prayed. Then she felt Him again. A magnificent angel crept toward her from the dark, a silent chorus of hymns echoing through thoughts. Tears streaked down her sooted face at such magnificence. Much more was left for her to do. While she committed her soul to the true faith, she had yet to give her body. The bulky power armor falling off her form gave way to the greatest freedom she had ever felt. Her arms outstretched welcomingly. She was ready.
>*rapes human progress forever*admech policy is totally retarded and unjustifiable
>>98174205Way too concise. You need to use a paragraph for each of these sentences.
>>98174208Not really though? The dark age did that. Humans were crazy fucking advanced. They just need to find archeotech that isn't immediately destroyed because it's too powerful.
I’m going to buy some version of the starter set, which will mean I will have some Orks models. Is there a good primer on Ork lore besides “Buy the codex,”?
>>98174208>preserves technology through the Age of Strife>gives the Imperium the technology to go from ruling Earth to ruling the entire galaxy>keeps it running for 10k yearsYou're welcome.
>>98174237yesi will say the admech is autistic and void dragon puppets, but they're the reason why anything is as intact as it is
>>98174234>implying modern codices are a good source of loreA lot of Orks' lore is in the earlier editions' codex, or scattered around novels. You could read Lexicanum and see which books they cite.
>>98174247da fook is lore?me wantz FIGHTZ
>>98174247>A lot of Orks' lore is in the earlier editions' codexSome of their best stuff is from rogue trader supplements that predate codexes. WAAAGH DA ORKS, ERE WE GO and FREEBOOTAZ were incredible and no other faction in 40k ever got spoiled like that, honestly not even Space Marines.
>>98174273the boyz are all right
I love the Emperor, and I trust that He has a plan that will bring humanity back on track. I dedicate my life, and my death if need be, to serving Him. If everyone collectively had the same attitude instead of falling to chaos, things would improve.
>>98174208To be fair this is a universe where if you accidentally arrange circuitry the wrong way you get a demon-possessed killbot
Why do people even look for good guy factions to root for.
>>98174293>If everyone collectively had the same attitude instead of falling to chaos, things would improve.I agree. It would serve the Greater Good.
>>98174233>>98174237They wouldn’t need archaeotech if they just fucking made new shit. Or even just figured put how the things they already have actually work. You know that each Ark Mechanicus has black hole bombs and other absurd weapons onboard and they don’t even fucking know how to use them.The goddamn Tau made better tech than the Imperium in only 6,000 years. From scratch!
>>98174300the imperium is right there>>98174303lol no
that's cult of the warmason, i guessmeh
>>98174293>>98174302Cucked sheeple dying for a corpse. I’m making a deal with Tzeench 0.01 seconds after spawning in.
>>98174303>Ark Mechanicus has black hole bombsThat really fucked over technology levels in 40k, that's where the "DAoT was magic" shit comes from when they were really just 30k with AI and without daddy issues.
>>98174302hell yeah
Is not understanding the AdMech the ultimate sign of a newfag? I swear that's always the first dumbass thing people say when they just encountered the setting and don't get it yet.
>>98174324the vast majority of the normie's knowledge of warhammer unironically comes from majorkill
>>98174324
>>98174329That's so fucking grim I want to vomit
>>98173749I've just put some paint down on mine
>>98174300They are mind controlled by malicious entities known as “spooks”
>98174336Obvious retarded newfags don't get (You)s
>>98174338don't worrythere's also betamale basedboys open mouth cuck facing at the idea of female space marines because apparently an entire faction with its own lore about being female warriors wasn't enough and some retard who makes lore videos trying to explain things to his girlfriendhoooraaaaay
>>98174343Assblased and you don’t even have a reply? Lol
>>98174340luv me gold
>>98174303>just fucking made new shit.I agree anon.We should start with replacing servitors with proper thinking machines to streamline the Imperium.
>Reading Night Lords>They blow up a Rogue Trader ship and land on an asteroid>Septimus follows them all happily>Talos treats him like a comrade in armsI don't get it, he's essentially a slave but they don't give a shit. Are all Chaos Warbands like this with slaves or some shit?
>>98174379Works for the dwarves
>>98174186In the same interview Priestly mentions that the setting is no longer what he initially envisioned never really was from the drop. He even states that he always envisioned the Emperor as a mystery, maybe even just a myth keeping the Imperium together. Clearly that isn't the case in the current lore. Taking a single ambiguous quote from a single interview that contains his ideas of what the imperium should be (not what it is) is not the smoking gun you are treating it as. He even says in earlier in the same interview:>I always thought of the Imperium as a vast self-serving bureaucracy in which no-one really knew what they were doing but they continue do it out of a sense of tradition and routine - so status and power become bound up with all kinds of half-baked assumptions, received wisdom and superstition. Which doesn't exactly scream "they're just doing what is necessary to survive."
When will the Big Boy get a chance for a redesign so it stops looking so awkwardly out-of-place next to the titans that HAVE been updated this centuryHave they dropped support for that HH Titan game yet?
What are the odds GW gives Salamanders their own codex this edition? I really don't like the bloat the game has and don't want to buy the Marines codex just to have to buy the Salamander's later on
>>98174404Talos treats Septimus like a valuable asset, which is what skilled slaves are. Septimus, in turn, understands that things could be much worse and plays his part.
>>98174427>Have they dropped support for that HH Titan game yet?It hasn't gotten new content in years.
>>98174440I doubt it. If they get anything, I imagine it’ll be like the 500 Worlds books for the Ultramarines and be a campaign or narrative where they get a central role.
>>98174208>does whatever he wants like innovating>keeps his innovating marine related >barely a peep of innovations for things besides marine stuffNothing personal kid…
>>98174450>Decide to spoil myself and Talos apparently releases Septimus and Octavius from his service to head to Terra or wherever to live a normal lifeBut why though
>>98174469Is the Adeptus Mechanicus a pain in the ass to both assemble and paint or that a meme?
>Think about painting all day>Don't do it
>>98174425I always thought it was strange that the Imperium is treated as a dying beast when it had stood for 10000 years in its current form. The Great Rift doesn’t feel like a real consequence either since pretty early on they establish they somehow found a way through it with the Devastation of Baal.
>>98174474I'm more like>have models ready to prime and paint>can't decide on what bases to give them
>>98174474>think about it all day at work>get home>sit on the computer for 4 hours instead
>>98173667Every faction portrays themselves as the "Noble defenders against evil" which is kinda the point of the setting.Even Chaos Marines have this belief that they are simply seeking revenge against the Imperium for what they saw as a betrayal by the Emperor.
>>98174474>finally start painting>spend hours on a single model>not even finished
are traditional turns a sacred cow that gw is holding on to for no reason? I've played a lot of games over the year and alternating activations is the way most people are doing it these days
>>98174340I think you should have rotated the demon by 90 degrees counter-clockwise, with the Custodes foot on the belly, so it looks more like the demon is begging for mercy, flailing in desperate, reacting to the incoming death blow
free handing tribal tattoos seems like a pain.
>>98174523just use a marker
>Can't decide if I wanna paint Emperor's Children bubblegum pink or white m for the Corpus BrethrenHalp
>>98173506>black lion of ultramar
I actually liked warpforge and I'm sad to see it go. combat cards and horus heresy cards are both less fun. gw is so weird
>>98174493>>98174476>>98174474This is all me and yet I am worse somehow. Help I have ruined myself and I want to paint models.
>>98173520>When did this start and are other autisms from here leaking?every faggot comes here and steals our memese and then it somehow becomes mainstream in the normalfagverseBut it's also probably GW pushing it, since if people buy models and paint them to avoid being larpers it benefits them.
>>98174511I think it is hung onto for the same reasons the bad citadel paint pots are held onto and that is brand recognition.For gw paint pots and the 40k turn based mechanics are integral to the warhammer identity.But I do feel like the proper turn mechanics that most wargames have moved to is there at gw as a kind of “in case of emergency break glass” kind of thing.
>>98174554Paint them in a bright color scheme deliberately chosen to hurt the viewer’s eyes.
>>98174511A lot of those games are different from GW's in ways that would mean it makes more sense for one than the other>Hmm, which will I activate first...this little squad of dudes with popguns, or this fuckhueg tank that actually constitutes a quarter of my army's firepower?>Wait, why shouldn't I take nothing BUT fuckhueg tanks so I can frontload MORE of my army's firepower into a couple of activations?
are we joining the beta?
>>98174474Me with everything and every creative persuit in existence
>>98174560>normies steal memes from hereThis isn’t the 2000s or the 2010s, right?This isn’t happening?>>98174579Same. With drawing to mini painting to everything.As a teen looking at the imperial armour books I wanted to work for gw to be a campaign writer.But I’ve heard gw treats it’s creatives badly and pays them badly so I don’t think it will work and might as well get creative and try to make my own ip that will most likely fail.Either through not being good or just because I use this website and I’ll be cancelled for it.
>>98174474>think about doing models>get high>want something more showy and interactive>play video games yet againI used to get more modelling done with drinking but that wrecks your body so much more
>>98174591>This isn’t the 2000s or the 2010s, right?they still steal memes from hereor if you're being generous, they come here to post memes that aren't allowed in normalfagland until they become well known and then transplant then out to twitter and reddit
>>98174594I just do a model when I feel like it.
>>98174594>with drinkingHow much a day?I usually go a can a day.>play vidya instead of hobbying Me too.I have to be in the happy zone to sit down and do 40k hobby stuff.But then I play darktide.Like there is something weird where I got into 40k and got models but then went to vidya instead.It is supposed to be vidya then you move to models.
>... just saying that if a Callidus Assassin has shapeshifted to look like an Eldar, then if you have sex with her, it doesn't count as having sex with a xenos, so it's completely legal, right?
Let me guess in the book Assassinorum Kingmaker, the Callidus Assassin ends up having sex with the Vindicare Assassin?
>>98174476I only base after I paint my miniOr even after I paint my entire army
/40kg/ I come in peace from /twg/Don't worry CA will shit the bed and cancel the game mere months after it's inceptionIt will not alter anything as far as TT goes. I guarantee it.
I think I will make an OC chapter for the new edition. Something Grave themed. The Orks can be pirates.
>>98174626Looking at the smoldering ruin of the TOW thread, we can only hope you're right.
>>98174629Oldfags remember Rome 2 release. TW40k release will be orders of magnitude worse. Especially since they are trying to force it to be next summer.
Does anyone know any particularly worthwhile vehicle kits? I want to convert some ork looted vehicles, but I have no particular ones in mind. What vehicle kits get you a lot of plastic and a lot of bits for the money?
>>98174626>>98174629Can I get some context and e planning on why things look grim and dark even for total war warhammer?What about dawn of war four?
>>98174638https://litter.catbox.moe/i1ukz0.mp4latest tw 40k gameplaylooks grimmer than the grim rapist
Is there anything I can buy from a Warhammer store that isn’t 25% more expensive than at my flgs?
>>98174338Could be a lot worse. It could come from Brickie or whatever his name is.
>>98174474>have 2 boxes of bladeguard lying around>let's do these real fast over the weekend, they're just space marines>3 days later I'm not even halfway done with the gold trim
Is there an example of win rate being deceptive? GW seems to be tuning things so that every army has about a 50% win rate, but that's not actually the only factor. Is there a faction that is stronger in the hands of a good player than their win rate would suggest? is there a faction that is actually weaker than their win rate would suggest?
>>98174640I’m sorry anon but that alpha footage disclaimer gives me hope things will improve.If it is a flop then maybe the 3d assets can at least be ported to tabletop simulator or possibly even used for 3d printing?I mean dawn of war one and two models are still being used.Dawn of war three flopped so bad that nobody to my knowledge wants to buy that game just to get the 3d assets.Is the dawn of war three ost at least good music to listen to when painting?Even the worst video games have serviceable music and I can’t figure out why.
>>98174650hate trim, why did I pick chaos space marines?
There a better way to tell if my paint has been thinned enough without having to mark my skin or using a dry palette? Was watching Duncan Rhodes videos and he doesn't even mark anything to check if it's thinned.
>>98174659I love trimGive me more trim
>>98174654i pray to yeshua every day that you are right in your hope for tw40k...i just don't see it given my familiarity with how CA operates...
>>98174660With enough experience you can tell from the consistency of the paint and how it flows on your palette. But I always check on my hand first.
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
what is the most interesting planet in warhammer
>>98174753terra
>>98174760>dude it's a big city and there's a big castle Is there one planet in warhammer that's not just a copy pasted hive-world with interesting locales and a unique culture
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>>98174787terra
>>98174787/mydudes/ homeworld.
>>98174470Night Lords are renegades, not Chaos Marines, renegades are allowed to have personality
>>98174474I haven't painted anything in over two years. Mortal words cannot adequately describe how lazy I am.
>>98174499Literally me plus>finally finished it after 5 days>I don't like it >into the stripping jar it goes
>>98174814/mydudes/ are fleet based
>>98173667>>98173763nta but "I like a good fight" doesn't line up with killing unarmed people, it's not a fight at all, it's gleeful murder.Orks don't "like a good fight", they like violence. Why? Because their entire life is based on a hierarchical system enforced through violence. In plain english: they are mean self-serving bullies that will obey anyone who will bully them until they can succesfully backstab their bully and take their place.That's why they're inspired by hooligans; basic, opportunistic, self-serving, violent people.They "love a good fight" when they think they'll win and get better stuff / more power under them, but the moment they realize they're gonna get their teef kicked in they're quick to "leg it".Orks are about winning, not just fighting, and it's okay to run away because they'll come back to win next time (protecting their ego/reputation to justify they are not strong enough right now).
>>98174474>put pressure on myself>shame myself when I don't get the thing done that I pressued myself into doingYou will paint when you want to paint. Figure out why you don't feel like painting. Often times it's because outside things are taking all your energy / focus and you have none left to do the things you enjoy. Depression is that but a lot stronger.
>>98174660thinning is overrated. it mattered a lot more in the dark ages of shitty paints. as long as you use a wet palette, keep your brush hydrated, and aren't slopping it on, "too thick" will usually be obvious when loading the brush.
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>>98174908>"If i'm short enough they won't see me and I'll survive"
>>98174732>5'11" vs 6'0"
which faction is most akin to Israel
>>98174971Chaos. Imperium too but people are not ready to hear that.
>>98174971Eldar. Think about it, you know it's true.
>>98174971all of them
>>98174989Eldar are blatantly the Diaspora. Anon asked about Israel.
>>98174971>Survived genocide>Make supremacist ethnostate with an eternal persecution complex>Inserts themselves into the upper politics of other powers (including the current dominant power)>Commits war crimes but they're kosher because X was promised to them Y years ago>Not all from the faction are bad people, but a good majority wholeheartedly support whatever their leaders decide.>>98174989Yeahhhh fits Craftworld to a T
11th edition will be big for Emperor's Children
>>98175032what the fuck am I looking at
>>98175039A piece of fan-artwork depicting Angel, an experimental alien creation from the the Lilo and Stitch animated series, depicted adorned and armed in the aesthetics of a follower of Slaanesh
>>98175032This image was made by Slaanesh in an attempt to corrupt me with my childhood waifu. Nice try, daemon.
>>98174654>alpha footage disclaimer gives me hope things will improve.fooled by the oldest trick in the book
>>98175032yeah, a big disappointment
>>98175032All they have to do is expand their range so it includes things other than power-armored infantry and a daemon-primarch, such a fucken boring launch for what are supposed to be the most exotic dark god's followers
>>98175088>what are supposed to be the most exotic dark god's followersthat's tzeentchian followers
>>98175057Your childhood waifu was fucking stitch?
>>98175052Thank you anon, may I ask WHY
>>98175096The character isn't fucking stitch, but the character might be fucking stitch.
>>98173708Orks do the same or worse to their own people.Wait that sounds like the imperium too...
K I'm not gonna post any more of these because turns out there's a lot of them
>>98175105>>98175108>>98175114
>>98174626Do you think she fists guys with her nub arm to pay off her student loans?
>>98175057And it was posted right after a crop from Sunstone. It's a sign, anon.
11th edition will be HUGE for Chaos Knights!
>>98174049>>98174079I’ve only read CL Werner’s warhammer fantasy books, but that’s definitely intentional, and I’ve always read it as him giving the sense there’s more things outside the main character, and you can imagine for yourself what goes on in that character’s world or maybe use it as inspiration for /yourdudes/. for example, at one point in grey seer, there’s a long dialogue with the ruler of the altdorf undercity, his motivations, his wanting thanquol to join him in a conspiracy against the council of thirteen, and then he shows off how his breeder is insanely muscular and agile and could easily take on 10 rat ogres at once. I thought this was meant as a set up for a bit fight at the end of the book once he buys boneripper, and gets the stone, but no. that’s the last you ever hear of him outside of brief mentions for thanquol’s motivation to betray the undercity. there’s no way the author would forget he exists, so I think its just to expand the world with him interesting characters.
>>98175138How boring
>>98174440>buying codexes
>>98174234Buy the (RT, 3rd, and 4th edition) codex. aside from that, they don’t really have much. I’ll say Death or Glory and Catachan Devil give a pretty good feeling of how orks get down in novel form though.
>>98175158>codexes
>>98173518nah thats not true, i like painting but tend to get sick of painting the same shit over and over again. painting a list purely for tourney play would piss me off as so many of them contain 3 of the same squad
>>98174474the best incentive atm is to get yourself on the collage imo. outside of that find something more exciting to paint because you're probably sick of painting whatever army you are working on
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>>98175265
I genuinely think GW is going to crash their market with 11th. Not irretrievably
>>98175273What led you to this conclusion anon
>>98175273The honeymoon period for the covid crowd is over. GW hasn't preserved what made 40k popular in the middlehammer golden/silver age. People are starting to complain about the way kits are structured (shit/weird cuts vs no instructions required), the churn is gettinf repetitive and bland/empty.It's getting there, 11th feels different. Lesser, forgettable. Meh.
>>98175289Basically I think the 2019 blow-up period with 9th/10th is ending because the game is becoming more and more competitive-orientated so it is not accessible to the casual player. Crusade has been dumped, the language reads like a CCG game with almost no naturalistic language.And then lorewise, GW is showing nothing has sanctity anymore probably because most of the old guard founders are dead or have left. They didn't produce a steel legion kit for Armageddon, so they wrote some lore about the SL are mostly all dead now and Krieg and Cadia are the main guard forces on Armageddon. Ultramarines weren't there, but they are the big focus of the tail end of 10th and the ones in the videogame so now Ultramarines there. "Lore" no longer matters and will be retconnned and adjusted subservient to marketing in all instances.So I think you will lose the majority playerbase on the rules and over time, on the lore. Secondaries will still participate because the vidya offerings are only going to increase, but most will be turned off the actual game if they try to pick it up.
>>98175296Well they aren't as good as GW, I have to give GW credit in their modelling is absolutely top of the market and even better now than their once-competitors with high-quality sculpts like Infinity, but you can get sensibly designed kits with arms/torso/legs/head divisions for less and of good quality from companies like WGA and Victrix now. The difficulty is these companies don't hold any interesting IP like Warhammer.
>>98175268Snackport is an eggregious violation of the Lex.
>>98175273>two more weeks, buddy!ok
How would you build a society where:>People have more freedom than in the imperium>People don't fall to chaos
>>98175345It's pretty easy. Chaos isn't actually entirely all encompassing as long as people have moral discipline.
>>98175331The Lex?I AM THE LEX
>>98174607One can? Uno? Brother that won't get me a buzz. Unfortunately I have yuro drinking genes and grew up in straya drinking culture so if I drink it's like 3-4 minimum
>>98173749still WIP, especially backpack and nurgling
>>98175350>people have moral discipline.but people don't
>>98175321>I can't believe GW is getting away with this shit>look at other systems/miniatures>Yeah okay I get itIt's sad really, because plastic kits are becoming easier and better to make, but then there's like nobody with a universe as interesting as 40k.I think that's why I'm critical, because they shoot themselves in the foot all the time. GW products are very good, but they're only the best because everyone else is fucking retarded or boring. And so GW doesn't have to try one bit.
>>98174659>>98174661I need more trimI need more chainsI need more spikesI need more (color contrast) corruptionI need more Colchisian runes
>>98175367Train them to achieve it.
>>98175345chaos feeds off people who are miserable and need an outlet for their frustrations (orks are actually theoretically just as susceptible to chaos corruption as humans, but they have no reason to turn to it). so just keep the majority of the population content, and provide free or outright mandatory mental health services to get people back on the right track. obviously easier said than done, but its possible.
>>98175384So.....the imperium?
>>98175273I'm waiting for the ruleset burnout to finally finish the job. The fact that we're on a 3 year cycle is nuts for this hobby, that's a sensible lifetime for a video game you want to keep updating and refining with new versions, but 3 years for a table top game edition change has never made sense.
Haven’t played a new edition since 8th, do we know if 11th has those dumb preset unit amounts instead of individually priced models? For example you can take 10 guardsmen or 20, but not 12.I only ask because a few friends want to try out the game, most likely with the new edition, and I’ll probably join them (before eventually turning them onto older editions).Here are my new eldar.
>>98173749Last finals is tomorrow, gonna fail it but that's life, thankfully I'm in a field where a degree is just a piece of paper. Can't wait to get back in the hobby
>>98175461>Shoot that monkeigh
>>98175461Yeah 11th edition has preset unit amounts as far as we know.
https://www.goonhammer.com/40k-11th-edition-faction-pack-review-space-marinesSpace marine faction packs must be releasing today. Goonhammer already has a review up.
>>98175471Damn. Figured but was hoping since they half brought back equipment points they’d take that arbitrary limiter off too.Listbuilding is one of the most fun parts of the game for me, and its almost impossible to fill a 10-15 point gap with these changes.
Any word on death guard faction pack?
>>98175497>releasing rules to news outlets earlyFucking why? Models generates hype to purchase something but they’re free rules Granted they should’ve released the detachments with the core rules anyway since it was the selling point of the edition
>>98175138what terrible art
>>98175502The corporate mandate of one-box-builds is still in effect as far as we can tell, until someone in charge of money wakes up and recognizes there are more existential threats to their business model than 3rd parties selling models and bits for rules they produce that don't jive in the simplest way possible, I don't expect that to change.
>>98174469You now realise the model has a giant bulging, probably metallic, dick beneath the belly
>>98175457>3 years for a table top game edition change has never made sense.Yeah, it takes me longer than that to finish painting an army.
>>98174636bitch i remember rome 1 release>fuuuuuuuuuuuyyck
>>98175345I'd probably start with a small population to be easier to manage the initial storm of my next step which would be total transparency about the risks of chaos and blind faith in the galaxy due to the warp whilst promoting a faith that is ultimately helpful to our cause and is able to facilitate miracles like the living saints and entities like the Sanguinor. If you can't avoid the immaterium, you might as well try to do works that will have it aid you much like what the Tau are experiencing right now. Psykers will be heavily watched but not through dogmatic stigma but through official state training and registration. I think keeping everything about chaos secret will only lead to more problems overall, despite the fact that the knowledge will end up with corruption still, a culture that understands the risks full well usually does well until the Imperium shows up like with the Interex Empire. Otherwise? I'm not really sure. Depending on where we set up shop, we might do a little xenos trading, but probably avoid too much interaction with them. The Votann would probably be helpful to us if we're close to them in the galaxy and I'd try to get in close with them diplomatically.
>>98175345It's simple. We kill Chaos.
Why are some of the rules in the core rulebook and some in the app??
>>98174816>ChaosPffft They're up to their fucking eyballs in chaos
why new 40k games look so horrible? james should put more money there.
>>98175571They are so stupid... All but Abaddon who actually could do what the meme describes.
>>98175571I like that they're delulu about not being chaos corrupted/manipulated by the gods
>watching some sloptube>ad plays>trying to sell me some course to "get a headstart" on 11th edition's metaDo people buy into this? I don't even watch amy competitive stuff, only hobby videos
>>98173506>Black Lion of UltramarThere goes my heroWatch him as he goes
>>98175571Has there ever been the reverse?>I AM THE MOST CHAOS THING EVERY I LOVE CHAOS CHAOS CHAOS>Wait what do you mean the Chaos Gods all collectively hate me because all my actions somehow screwed all of them over?
>>98175571That's why you just make the best choice possible.
>>98175598If there isn't there should be. Like some dude forsaken by the gods and fighting an uphill battle as a pariah amongst pariahs. Iron warrior?
>>98175580>All but Abaddon who actually could do what the meme describes.Greetings ADB!
>>98175598I don't think so, anyone who's all about chaos is going to be controlled by chaos
>>98175580>All but AbaddonThe gods give their most potent blessings to their most delusional slave
>>98175614Lorgar maybe? Erebus?
>>98175625Abaddon has to believe he acts of his own free will to remain effective. They learned from Horus that a firm grasp dulls the blade. Abaddon must be kept sharp and held tenderly such that he never even notices the hand that wields him.
>>98175627They don't fuck with chaos' plans though, they make them happen
>>98175497Its over for deathwatchcels....
>>98175598This would be fucking hilarious. It’s just some guy who keeps using the wrong god’s tactic for every situation.>uses a virus bomb out in the open instead of trying to utilize subterfuge and scheming, failing to spread either long term sickness or discord despite everyone dying>resorts to pretty finesse in combat during an otherwise intense battle of ugly brutal carnage>constantly in a state of technically succeeding but satisfying none of the gods to all of their frustrations
>>98175652Utility maximizing theory of Chaos. Do what makes the aggregate of Chaos Gods happy at all costs.
>>98175598Wasnt there this Word Bearer who got slaughtered by Khorned up World Eaters during the siege of terra.His last thoughts as they were cutting him to pieces was the realization that the gods were laughing at him the entire time.
I miss compulsory troops
>>98175497Datasheet Changes>A whole pile of units get FRAME. I’m not gonna list them all, go and look at the PDF if you want the complete list, but it’s every vehicle that isn’t a walker.>The Stormhawk Interceptor and Stormtalon Gunship lose ‘Hover’ and change their M and OC characteristics to -.>The Stormraven Gunship gets M14” and loses AIRCRAFT (and keeps the Hover ability).>Chief Librarian Tigurius gets a minor wording update to bring his Master of Prescience rule in line with 11th edition.>Inceptor Squads get their Meteoric Descent ability erratad to 6” rather than 3”. This is how it has worked for years anyway, but that was a Balance Dataslate thing before.>Terminator Squads and Terminator Assault Squads change their Teleport Homer ability to 8” range instead of 9”.>All Ancient, Apothecary, and Lieutenant (except the combi-weapon guy) units, plus the Wardens of Ultramar, lose Leader and gain Support.>Uriel Ventris’ Unorthodox Strategist ability is now once per turn, rather than applying to all Stratagems used within 12”.
>>98175598Lorgar - he loves Chaos but he's fuckin useless. A guy who spends all his time "reading" (i.e. gooning) and hiding like a bitch from Corax.
>>98175661t lorelet who only knows little tidbits from loretubers instead of reading the books
is ghazghkull basically just ork abaddon or does he have anything else more interesting going on?
>>98175571Why do you seethe so much at the thought of renegade marines existing instead of everything being chaos? Every time people talk about it you post some image lol
>>98175729He is just the biggest and baddest. What else should he need?
>>98175729Most of it really just does boil down to "'Ez da biggest", still, there's a really interesting thing going on with him where he's troubled about his own existence and that of the orks as a whole since he's getting a lot smarter and he doesn't like it at all, almost like a post-krump depression.
>>98175650goodmeme ass army for fucking waacfaggots
>>98175785nta what does waacfag mean?
>>98175791Win at all costs faggotA term for someone who happens to be unlucky enough to play an army that is currently good.
>>98175785one of the worst armies in the game that's 75% legends is for waacfags now, you cant make this shit up
>>98175797so what is an example of an army thats not waacfag? you cant say imperial agents thats not an army anymore.
>>98175791win at all costs, people overuse it here to mean anyone who actually tries to win games, when really it means people who use rules as written to let tanks climb terrain or model for advantage (ACTUALLY model for advantage, not just make cool kitbashes)
>>98175801A fluffy army build around a theme, not around max point effective units.
>>98175810so thats most deathwatch units because almost all of their units are dogshit or legends? why would you call deathwatch waacfag then?
New Primaris Tactical Squad looking really plain.
>>98175798>>98175816derpwatch live rent free in tourny losers heads
>>98175415The thing is they don't even have to be that happy. The WHFB Empire has chaos cult problems but nothing that compromises their whole integrity and their threats are primarily external. They manage it fine with a litte religion and witch-hunting.The extreme oppression of the Imperium probably ironically makes sure everyone is almost always at a fever pitch of emotion - usually misery - which makes them more likely to end up chaos bait.
>>98175821Neat, can't wait for recasters to sell them at non exorbitant prices.It's true that they're a bit too similar to MKVI, how come they've gotta have the exact same design of powerfist, plasma pistol and servoskull?
>>98174638>>98174640>>98174654>Having faith in an untested company to make a good game in the most niche, most difficult genre to "get right (RTS)" and with the most 3rd world, most developmentally stunted, entitled consumer baseEh
>>98175821This is really boring
>>98175821Is it time?
>>98175729>is ghazghkull basically just ork abaddonat this point after the novel and decade or so of slop yes that's all that's going on. Nerds have a hard time understanding scale or making their own choices so they latched onto characters in a game setting built initially around your own doods and stories but that doesn't sell nearly as well as Green Abaddon, associated models, books and campaigns and audiobooks and backpacks so here we are.
>>98175497>Ravenwing Dark Talon: Removed [HOVER], changed M and OC to ‘-’. They did not change the Stasis Bomb ability, so it currently does nothing as the Dark Talon never makes a Normal Move. Hopefully this gets another look.Bravo GW
>>98175801waac is not a specific army, its a way of playing. any army can be waac, and any army can avoid waac.waac is the mentality of eschewing fun and flavor and placing efficiency above all else. at its most harmless its hyper efficient army lists and power unit spam, at its most harmful its active game manipulation like slow play, bad faith rules loopholes, and at its worst outright cheating. you can avoid waac with any army by just building a fun list you enjoy, playing in good faith, painting your models, and being a fun opponent to stand across the table from. good sportsmanship goes a long way to alleviating waac perceptions, even in an event where you are playing to win.
>>98174626>total war:40k releases>infinite wave of newfags>all they know is primarch shit and main character energy>all discussions turn into lowdif/highdif what his feats style discussionYou thought the decalmutant was bad, you rolled your eyes at PRIMARIS ARE KING. you took a break from the broad every time the femstodes controversy resurfaces.BRACE YOURSELVES FOR THE TRUE ENDGAME.
>>98175892Holy based playfag who plays games with a good take.
>>98175821What do you think the idea is with this little bit sticking out at the rear of the boltgunsPart of the sights? Surely its not a charging handle
>>98175729I mean, you could ignore the fact that he was written as a character for Andy Chambers' studio ork army, who then became a meme that grew into a larger existence as "the" Ork warlord. Going from a lightly converted Goff Boss to having his own miniatures that also grew ever larger over time. It's a very meta existence.
>>98175912Adjustable sighs for elevation? Pull it out and you'd be aiming at a shallower angle?
>>98175912My guess is a charging handle.
>>98175940>Huh, I wonder what happened to Gorbog>only mention is as a freeboota admiral during the ultra reclamationsGuess he quit
>>98175273I've been hearing this since 5E, btw.
>>98175821>new mkiv assault marines don’t use old sanguinary guard-style jump packsExtremely grim
>>98174654>Even the worst video games have serviceable music and I can’t figure out why.Because video game music has always been a tertiary priority for game marketing. Vast majority of customers do not buy games based off of music outside of rhythm games and normies will never complain about it if it is just passable. A game's music department is basically insulated from all the fuckery that makes the game and the story bad.So when vidya OSTs are good, it's either because the devs wanted good music for its own sake or it's because they just let good composers go buckwild without any overbearing micormanagment.
It is really really funny to look at the previewed space marine detachments and see that 1 lets you split your basic marines into squads of 5 and 1 lets some of the strongest offensive shooting in your army always ignore cover. And they cost the same. This is going to be one fucked-up edition.
>>98174511https://youtube.com/watch?v=x0IevQKFbKIFrom an exGW designer, they see IGOUGO more strategic, more grandiose while alternate activations are seen more as tactic, as a skirmish.
>>98174427>reeee it's archaicwheredoyouthinkyouare.jpg
>Tell someone I'd like to see DarkMech added to the game eventually>"Have you considered painting models you don't like from an army you don't like a certain color, or perhaps playing a game that nobody actually plays, especially not at your LGS? Or have you considered this color scheme of space marines?"Thanks man
>RCO and LAG 3DPblood bros… it’s over..
Don't you think this is a little unfair? Seriously, it's a Deathwing enhancement that excludes most of the classic Deathwing units like Vanguard Veterans, Sternguard Veterans, and Bladeguard Veterans. Not counting HQs, that's over half of the Deathwing just left out for completely arbitrary reasons.
>>98173749Working on ork skin atm. Thought id try something outside of some sort of contrast mix
>>98176106A bit clearer
>>98176100no? why should it affect everyone? that's clearly a termi deathwing enhancement
>>98176054I used to think ex-employees always saying good things about their company or its policies meant it was a decent place, they wanted their reputation intact for future roles or they actually believed what they were spewing until my company got acquired and I had to look up the legality of non disparagement clauses.Guy could literally be under a lifetime contract to shill for GWs policies, process, and business because if he says anything that could negatively impact the company financially, materially, or in the public eye they will be sued into oblivion.
Hypothetically, assuming you're a random imperial citizen, if a Sister of Battle approaches you and demands sex, are you even allowed to refuse?
>>98176127She has a gun, you don't. The lex doesn't apply.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/2ekfivpk/new40k-download-new-space-marine-faction-packs-today/>faction packs released over the course of a weekAgain, why not all at once?Nobody can actually play until they’re all out unless you’re marine vs marine
>>98176144hype building obviously
>>98176099where you getting this from
>>98176156See >>98176144
>>98176144>marine vs marineBut this is the way the game was always meant to be played
>>98175798deathwatch is currently the strongest army in the game
>>98176144Marketing, duh. For GW, the new edition releases on the 20th and as long as everything is ready by then they're fine. I don't mind it.
>>98176179If you actually believe this you are simply not worth talking too. Calling others waacfags while gobbling win rate statistics, that tragically you don't even understand, is hilarious.
Do we know what tags existing detachments are getting to restrict you from combining them with the new ones?
>>98175729Unfortunately he's been written as ork abaddon now, there's no hope for him
>>98176182So what are we missing after the detachments? force dispositions and missions?
>>98176144At least they're big dumps instead of an anaemic trickle of one army per day like I feared
>>98176179>the of the 5 people who play deathwatch, 3 of them are good>this makes it the best army in the game>i am very smertlol
>>98176196Are you sure they don't have the genestealer curse?
>>98176179considering how rare deathwatch players are, and how unpopular they are in general, the only way you would think this is if you look up win rate statistics. so its literally a genuine waacfag calling others waacfag. lol
>>98175893It's already bad outside here. An overwhelming majority of 'fans' buy into tbe "Akshully the Imperium isn't so bad because [intentionally misinterpreted lore snippet]" and anyone who disagrees is swamped with disparaging remarks, often political. Many Imperium fanboys legitimately don't understand how fans of other factions exist because they have majn character syndrome, and will instantly look down on everyone else.Even within the Imperjal factions if you aren't one of the 'preferred' factions you'll be eaten alive by the others at the drop of a hat, just look at all the 'dunking on' Grey Knights went through.It's basically over for anyone who isn't an Imperium fan.
>>98176179Sample size makes a lot of these bullshit stats even less meaningful than they already are. And tournament wins or x-1 tournament winning positions and overrep are all better metrics to compare.
>>98176220if by over you mean my r kill will work over time call retards retards then yes
I'm thinking of getting into this Hobby - I was looking at starting with Dark Angels. Is the combat patrol any good?
>>98176230its all priced at 6x what its actually worth so I wouldn't really consider value at all. I would get the "my first marines box" that is like 20 dollars and comes with some brushes and paints. 99% of this hobby is painting and miniature assembly so if you dont have fun doing that getting a CP is genuinely just a waste of money and time.
>>98176144>gladius is 3Oh wow, I didn't think they had it in them. Good for them!
>>98176230It's not great. Hellblasters are mid and you'd probably want 10 not 5, intercessors are mid and you'd probably want 5 not 10, bladeguard are cool but in a bunch of different boxes, and the gravis captain can't lead anything. It's a very generic box, most of the others make just as good "dark angels" starters once you add a unique DA unit or two.
>>98176230First thing for a beginner to buy is a single box of troops you think look the coolest, not a "value" combo box.
>no generic detachment for Terminator or Dreadnought rulesIt’s so over….. They’ll be in the codex for sure right?
>GW said there would be 70 detachments on release>there are 61 detachments in the space marine preview alone?????
Dumb rules question. If a unit rule says "For every 5 models in this unit, 1 model can replace X weapon with Y", does that count attached models?I have the BT combat patrol box, and it has the option of building 5 Sword Brethren OR 4 Sword Brethren + 1 Castellan. Just wondering if choosing the latter locks me out of the cool weapon upgrades they get (thunder hammer, lightning claws, plasma pistol etc).
>>98176144You can't play at all without an updated MFM, unless you're happy using incredibly outdated points from 10th.
>Assault Terminator Thunder Hammers hitting on a 3+ nowThat’s a pretty good buff.
>>98176283Xenos get 3 and chaos get 6 (they get 6 because it includes chaos marines)
>>98176297that is a good question actually, in 10th you couldn't, because units are attached after wargear selection. In 11th leaders are also attached during army construction, but without the army construction rules, we don't know if it still happens after wargear selection.
>Astraeus in the faction packWasn’t that a Legends model? Are they gonna refresh that huge ass tank?
>>98176230First: This >>98176275Buy a box of Intercessors or Assault Intercessors first. Build them. Buy the paint you need for Dark Angels (avoid buying shitty GW/Warhammer pots, and buy AK or Vallejo Paint instead).Paint your squad of 10 Marines.If you still like the idea of playing Warhammer with your Dark Angels army, look for some good deals on ebay. Because you are in luck and right now is the perfect time to get a lot of models for relatively cheap, due to the launch of the Armageddon box. You can buy "marine halves" of that box for the same or even less the price of a combat patrol box, and you get more value/miniatures.Also, since you seem to be new: Marines are generic. You dont need the "Dark Angels" box to play Dark Angels. They are the same Marines, and you paint them green. None of the Dark Angels exclusive units is included with the Combat Patrol box anway.
>>98176230Grab the 50$ starter set with space marines and tyranids. Even if you don't like Tyranids. It comes with paints, a brush, and clippers. Put everything together, slap some paint on them, and see if you enjoyed the process.If you did, then you can look into getting a Combat Patrol box. These are A. way more expensive and B. don't come with any paints or tools.
>>98176220Go to bed Kais.
>>98176297>>98176318Common sense would imply its before leaders get attached. So in your example you can't have Y weapons if you only have 4 men in the unit, even if it will be 5 with the added leader.
>>9817628370 new detachments IIRC. Of which 18 are Space Marines + deviant chapters.
>>98175729The big deal isn't that he's bigger, it's that he's smarter. He's more like a green Silent King (or even Guilliman) in that he has ambitions for the orks. Will anything come of it? It is the edition for it, although the nids got fuck all last edition besides eating a planet nobody missed.
>>98176324they still sell it, you annoying roach
>>98176353the fuck is wrong with you?
>>98176230I've also bee thinking about dark angels but aren't quite sold on them as a chapter. What made you like them?
>>98176353Wtf I love grav tanks now?
>>98176358I like green, they have more unique models than the other chapters, they have a primarch, and I like the gothic / knight overtones they have.
>>98176144>no dispositionsjesus fucking christI WANT TO PLAY PROPERLY
>>98173704>so they're on the same level as bugs that will just eat you.Yes? Bugs are just trying to not starve
The Tactical Squad seems to have escaped Legends for now. I hope they keep the datasheet around and refresh it.
>>98176372You couldn't play 11th rules regardless, the list of missions isn't out yet either.
>>98176144How much larger did the Legends section just grow?I kept seeing '...on bike' over and over. Literally no one is allowed to ride a bike except Chaplains
>>98176353This is meaningless because they still sell stuff like the Giant Chaos Spawn and that thing is in Legends.
>They legended a model that is not even a year oldLamo GW trippin
>>98176387This is all pre-codex. We know Oath of Moment is gone but these faction packs still reference that as well. The codex drop is the actual test.
>>98176394>no missionsget a load of this NUUBIE
>>98176401It debuted in Legends. It was a strange odd one out since Uriel Ventris didn’t. Maybe Ventris is getting the boot with the codex though.
>>98176401So fucking glad I'm not a SM player paypiggie.
>>98176401>Chuds Yesterday: AHHHHHH IS THAT A BLACK MAN? IN MY 40K? ARGHHHHHH>Chuds Today: AHHHHHH DID THEY JUST LEGEND MY BLACK ULTRAMARINE CAPTAIN? ARRRRRGHHHHHH
Why do they milk a new edition release over a whole month anyway? I don't see how it makes them more money. I want to start playing games but it's like we're between editions right now there's no point learning 10th and i can't start learning 11th until they release everything.
>>98176394We have all the cards from the Armageddon box leaked already from sellers breaking street date or influencers who got theirs early breaking embargos.
>>98176413I don't care about Americunt racial civil wars.
>>98176416They need as much media buzz as possible during their big edition box preorder sale. You'll also see tons of advertising on other sites for the next couple weeks too.
>>98176402Is Oath of Moment gone? It’s on the Armageddon datasheets that’ll be in the new box.
>>98176420I stand corrected
Lol GW forgot about EC.
>Venerable Dreadnought is in LegendsFor what purpose
>>98176413Peak britbong slave mentality
>>98176100>most of the classic Deathwing units like Vanguard Veterans, Sternguard Veterans, and Bladeguard Veterans>those units >classic deathwingI'm sorry anon I assume you're an 8th ed joiner or baiting but those are not classic deathwing, they're mental illness. They should be painted green and represent company veterans for real Dark Angels. Deathwing is Terminators only.
I need the old detachments to be updated with their appropriate tags ASAP
>>98176441rumor has a new one is coming
>>98176451hasn't been terminator only since 4th edition, larper-kun
>>98176441It was put into Legends already in the previous edition.
>>98176439That's the 10th edition one from before EC was an option. It hasn't been updated.
>buy grey knights combat patrol>get a legends model
>>98176473It may not be legends in grey knights. They don't share LSM data sheets
>>98176473The Boxnaught is still in the game under the regular Dreadnought datasheet.
>>98176473GK still have VenDread as a non-Legends option, thankfully.
>>98176471whats the point of taking all the tanks away from EC to just give them legends options?
I preorder 11th Edition and Im not ashamed
>ATV not squatted>Suppressors not squatted>Servo-turret not squattedDo you think they will be axed with the Codex release or have rumours been incorrect?
>>98176508>I preorderAnd that was Seba from Polackville. Thank you
>Special Weapon Trueborn that is essentially just a special weapons sprue>Dracon>Vect with optional vehicle ala Graves>New boat dualbuild with Reaper as one option and a harpoon melee 'combat disembark' boat as the other buildThat's it
>>98176441>>98176473>>98176506>why does GW rotate modelsHuge my$tery.
>>98176523there is literally nothing wrong with being Polish
>>98176462what unit was Deathwing in 4th edition and not in terminator armor anon
>>98176530Go back on Wykop.
why would they make so many things legends? most of these units are fine balance wise, i dont really know how this is decided
>>98176521Land speeder and Mutilators came back from squattage.A popular youtuber made centurions get a spotlight a few years ago.Maybe squattage for all marines are being reduced.
Where is the Legends list?
>>98176544Were real units Legend'd or are marine piggys losing their minds because they no longer have 50 Captain datasheets?
Black Templars got shafted AGAIN, I was hoping we'd get a renewal with 11ed but it's the same pillow-fisted crap as before. Fucking GW, they really want to discourage people from playing the best boys.
>>98176544Sales and redundancy. Why keeping Vanguard and Jumppack Vanguard squads if they have Primaris slave-squads now?
>>9817654440k team doesn't get credit for HH model sales
GK, cuckstodes and DW shouldn't exist.
>"guess ill just skim through the space marine update quick">217 page document
>>98176569You mean Tau, Votann and Dark Eldar
>Ravenguard>Ravenwing>Deathguard>Deathwatch>Deathwing>Death company>Blood Angels>Blood Ravens>Blood ClawsWhy do marines have such dogshit naming conventions? I can't remember any of this shit.Why
>>98176569They should exist as units that you can add to other imperial armies
>>98176619>Why do marines have such dogshit naming conventions?because they're slop>I can't remember any of this shit. whybecause you're slop
>doing some addition to see the value of the Armageddon box using rough equivalents of existing kits>due to the character premium GW charges, plus the character bloat of the Armageddon box, each side is about 400+ USD alone not even counting the booksI would praise GW for selling a box that seems like you’re robbing them, though it’s partly because they charge 40+ bucks for characters and that’s ridiculous no matter how you cut it.
>>98175821how many different types of first born tactical marines does GW sell? how many do the HH paypigs buy?
>>98176431Those datasheets are stop-gaps for the tail end of 10th. They'll be meaningless once the marine codex drops.
>>98176619>I can't remember any of this shit.>WhyI'm afraid you were born without a brain stem.
>>98176639>robbing you blind>temporarily let up on the robbery>wow you're so generous GW!Not picking on you, I bought a 10e box for the same reason, but it's more like the discount boxes are the sane price.>inb4 "the sane price is what people will pay"
>>98176521The faction packs we just got are for pre-codex 11th. We won't know what got hit with the squat bat until the codex. How are people not getting this?
>>98176533Azrael isn't in the Deathwing? Damn, they're retconning shit from all the way back in 2nd now.
>>98176655Did you not read the rest of the post or something?
>>98176619>He missed the memoLol, lmao even. Where do you think we are?
>>98176297no, because you attach at the beginning of a game, not while the list is constructed.
>>98176687I'm assuming their concern is with 11th Edition, where you do attach during listbuilding.
>>98176526>essentially just a special weapons sprueSo hand of the archon?
>>98176674I'm a retarded FOMOpiggy what can I say.
>>98176555Your codex isn’t even out yet
>>98176533marine veterans :)
>>98176555>Fucking GW, they really want to discourage people from playing the best boys
>>98176715DA Veterans were attached to companies and wearing green.
>>98176619I've been in this hobby for like 6 months and I know what each of those things are, you'll learn by osmosis over time
>>98176710>>98176731They dropped the rules earlier the day retards, get with the program
>>98176753Are you new? Every edition starts with temporary army rules that inevitably change once the new codex rolls out
>>98176753Not the point, you schizoid.
>>98176744wrong!
>>98176416Release is on 20 because production cycles.They just started shilling too early.
>>98176757>>98176765Stay retarded I guess, y'all niggas have no idea what you're talking about
>>98176780Uh oh newfag melty
>>98176780>gay reaction images and retarded repliesAge and edition you started with?
which faction has the players with the biggest victim complex
>>98176619Because it's a naming convention that you and anyone can use. It's simple. Noun + adjective, for the most part.Don't start looking at other factions or you might realize it's the same shit.
>>98176807marines
>>98176807primaris marine players
>>98176807csm for decades
>>98176797>>98176798Stay mad samefag lmao
>>98176767Your move, imbecile.
Get hype!!There will be a Kill Team of those fuckers, 100%
>>98176807The Eldari Factions
>>98176826You're the only one mad here thoughbeit?
>>98176807Firstborn players.
>>98176824CSM players were always correct about the shit they had to eat from GW. Remember after SM got 2 wounds they were stuck with 1 wound for like 6 months?
>>98176826I like Black Templars too anon, but you’re dooming over nothing. You’ll get some nice toys once the 11e codex drops
>>981768295 Marines locked behind a 140EUR FOMO box only to be released 12 months later for 60EUR and be moved to Legends with the next edition! Fun! Watch them coming up with a retarded reason to make them Primaris.
>>98176807Dark Eldar especially, but really all Eldar
>>98176844that chaos dread looks sick, fuck the helbrutes!
>>98176807deathwatch
>BT players can make a 20 man crusader squad with reroll hits crits on 5+'s and just run at people and pilot it to decent results, better than DA and Wolves, admech and eldar, not to mention>Agents>Players want even more power for their simple-ass playstylelmao
>>98176829I don't even understand why they were squatted to being with
>>98176849it's not a victim complex if they're really out to get you
>>98176861Because their old models look really ugly and GW doesn't sell them anymore. No model, no rules.
>>98176862Who is out to get all 4 of the DE players?
>>98176848>Watch them coming up with a retarded reason to make them Primaris. Just like they “made” noise marines Primaris? When will you accept you’ve been mind-broken by knee-flanges?
>>98176849Okay but Dark Eldar actually are GW's whipping boy the way that other people think they are>>98176807Really it's codex compliant marine fans like Iron Hands and White Scars who are upset they don't have more than two names characters to lead their 80 generic datasheets
>>98176848After Red Corsairs got their upscaled Raider marines who have zero primaris design elements I'm not entirely sure if they will Primarise the Legion of the Damned.
>>98176888>New Legion of the Damned paint guide for your primaris marines in White Dwarf
>>98176861They only had 1 (one) unit, never were army on their own and they got a Legends profile.
>>98176807Probably eldar. They've been one of the strongest armies for a very long time, and had a model line refresh not long ago, but you'll still see them complaining.Having a pronounced victim complex requires that a group complain about being persecuted a lot, but also that it's not true, it's just a complex. GW unironically does neglect deamons and csm, so it's not a complex if it's true. And deldar complain a lot, but they actually do need new models and could use some new units since their codex is small. Eldar are the only one where they both complain a lot, but have good models, diverse models, and a strong book.
>>98176877>>98176888EC and RC are not Loyalist armies, unlike LotD. When was the last time we got a Loyalist release that was not Primarised? Castellan Crowe, I believe.
>>98176878>Okay but Dark Eldar actually are GW's whipping boy the way that other people think they areYeah but if some SM or Guard or CSM player complains its valid because those factions are popular and have a playerbase. DE fans went out of their way to like a niche small time faction. They really shouldn't expect more than the bare minimum (what they got in 10th for example).
>>98176807Not eldar because all eldar players know they are playing broken shit for the sake of it, nobody plays eldar for lore or hobby.
>>98176848Something something about how LotD are entities of the warp, so they wear mk x armor due to the collective psyche of marines being primarily made up of Primaris
>>98176913I'm not up to date with the latest LotD lore but if they are warp ghosts of the fire hawks chapter there wouldn't make any sense for them to be Primaris. They're not exactly going to line up to under go the primaris surgery.
>>98176555Funny you say that, I'm just starting the game and picked up the Black Templar Combat Patrol as my starting box. Castellans and Crusade Ancients getting [SUPPORT] seems like a pretty valuable buff, no? Having a Castellan AND an Execrator attached to a Sword Brethren or Bladeguard Veteran squad is gonna turn them into a ball of knives. Which makes me regret getting an Execrator and building him with the Pyre Pistol because I thought he would have to attach to the Crusader Squad. I'm just a baby, why do I gotta look up how to magnetize my models.
>>98176839>he thinks this began in the last decadegoldfish memory newfagEver since 3rd edition, cmsfags have demanded to have everything codex marines had (that wasnt shit), without any of the codex restrictions, without losing any chaos stuff. >Why did we throw away all our thunder hammers and storm shields and land speeders and razorbacks?>if loyalists have ATSKNF, we should have fearless (unless its an edition where fearless is shit, then we shouldnt have it at all)>csms are all heresy-era veterans and should all get veteran skills>"we just want the fluffy legion codex back" says the siren bomb player, the 7 heavy support IW player. berzerkers forced to chase rhinos all game? dont be ridiculous, thats stupid>my specific vision of chaos is using chaos without falling to it. yes, my chaos lord is a demon prince
>>98176967He’s a newfag shitposter, pay no mind to his moaning. BT are in a good place right now
>>98173581Prime BlackPut down a layer of titanium white before you paint a lighter color.
>>98176979Oh I know I was there arguing with you marine fags about all that stuff back then. I just listed the latest example and didn't want to go through 50+ years of all the shit CSM have had to eat.Things you did not list>CSM suppose to be the HH vets but marines having all the HH tech (jetbike, volkanite)>marinefags insisting all CSM armies were hobos who shouldn't have access to assault cannons (until GW finally give them to us with the TS soulreaper cannon and the CSM reaper chaincannon)>marinefags insisting they should have 2 dozen splatbooks and CSM (+daemons) should only have one, again until GW started giving CSM books>marinefags who insisted the 200+ fearless cultists led by Abaddon or a single sorc were """""true to the lore"""""" and that CSM armies shouldn't actually have any chaos marinesand on and on. I see a lot of the issues came from CUNT marine players who thought they knew CSM armies more than the CSM players themselves! Fuck you!
>>98177019Isn't 'CSM have shit supply lines due to being all chaos-y' like a major part of their lore and why there are so many raiding groups
How will they fuck it up?
>>98177019you tell on yourself so easily>>CSM suppose to be the HH vets but marines having all the HH tech (jetbike, volkanite)>>marinefags insisting all CSM armies were hobos who shouldn't have access to assault cannons (until GW finally give them to us with the TS soulreaper cannon and the CSM reaper chaincannon)translation: CSM should have all the heresy-era gear and all the post-heresy gear>marinefags who insisted the 200+ fearless cultists led by Abaddon or a single sorc were """""true to the lore"""""" and that CSM armies shouldn't actually have any chaos marinesthis literally never happened and you know it never happened
>>98176963>inb4 they made more marines from fire hawks geneseed, and those somehow become warp ghosts too
>>98177043Knee flanges
>>98177039Its part of their lore, its not something that applies to every warband or legion and it was a ridiculous reason to try to say>you can't have that!
>>98177043primaris bolt rifles
How many battleline units can I have in 1000 points? I heard it was 4 but now google says that changed.
>>98177066It's 4 at 1k points, 6 at 2k points
>>98177066This was the most recent info I've seen.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/95fucn12/building-an-army-in-the-new-edition-of-warhammer-40000/
>>98177047>translation: CSM should have all the heresy-era gear and all the post-heresy gearOnce again, CSM had NO HH gear. You can't say you can't have this because you're the HH guys and then start giving HH to the space marines. >>98177047>>marinefags who insisted the 200+ fearless cultists led by Abaddon or a single sorc were """""true to the lore"""""" and that CSM armies shouldn't actually have any chaos marinesOh do fuck off. I fucking argued with you SM fucktards up and down warseer and portent about how you people though CSM armies full of cultists was the true chaos army. I'm not going to hear from you >oh that didn't happenGet outta here!
>>98177043Primaris backpacks, helmets and guns.
>>98177076>>98177088ty>exactly 4 units of legionaries and 2 units of havoks with a sorc fits in 1k "Pactbound zeaots"-tzeentch chaingun/lascannon army
>>98177066Google's AI told you the right number, and it also told you that it changed. It changed from 6 to 4. Don't get hung up on the exact wording of LLMs, they don't -know- anything, they're getting trained on reddit posts.
>>98177062>It's part of their lorebut if they have access to everything, it stops being part of their loreit becomes "Oh CSM totally have wrecked supply lines but they get ALL the relic weapons and ALL the modern stuff and ALL the daemon engine stuff and ALL the daemon stuff and ALL the 30k vehicles and ALL the jetbikes"
>>98177043mk10 helmet which ruins their eternally pissed off look.
either noone is buying 11th edish launch box or they made billions. They are still in stock everywhere
>>98177133out of stock in my entire area
>>98177133My LGS sold 5~ of 30 on pre-order day. Not sure whether that's good or bad.
>>98177133bruh they just made shitloads of them like they said they would
>>98177133It was said they made even more than they made for Leviathan, and that one was available in some regions for several days after launch. >>98177140What is your area? Here its available in english as well as in german, from a number of 3rd party sellers
>>98177141considering models don't rot or have an expiration date and only grow in price over time....
>>98177122Not everyone wants to play a warband scrapping by having to raid the local Imperial ammo dump to get by. You make a general armylist with all options available and then if a player wants to make their army themed like a hobo warband they don't take heavies or specials or whatever in their CSM army. Otherwise you fuck over people who want to run Abaddon's 20 good men list and suddenly they can't take plasma pistols because some SM player thinks every chaos marine is a hobo.
>>98177133>Edition launch box doesn't sell out instantly First time?
GW's revenue is up 25% year-on-year so I'm pretty sure they're doing fine
>>98177167No one asked you.
>>98177141This guy lowered the price for the books from 27 to 15€ - both of them.He also sold 10 squads of boyz for 12€ eachhttps://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?item=800136077476&rt=nc&_ssn=grimnar123&LH_Complete=1Ebay prices are low as fuck, which means there is a lot of supply.
>>98177170Don't care, doomer faggot.
>>98177198Then eat shit, red shirt cück
>>98177208print yourself a dildo, faggot
>>98177133Stores with a committed allotment seem to be selling out, but Games Workshop is just taking unlimited pre-orders it seems because they intend to just keep molding this box for months.
>>98176888The Red corsairs are so good I'm gonna get some.
>>98176829They were in The Devastation of Baal a while back too.
could have made some more red terror boxes and less 11th edition boxes.
>>98175144well, it's horrible and a waste of everyone's time
>>98177322im just waiting for the red terror to get its own release, im not paying scalper prices
>>98177167I'm not GW tho
Are 3dp detaches just forever locked into 1 primary or do you have a choice?
>>98177391unironically >>98174069>Imagine being a plotfag.black library books should be a way for you to expand your overall knowledge of the universe, and create your own narrative around it. the more details and stories that are told, even if in microscopic and irrelevant pieces of dialogue the better.
>>98177465Basically everything about 11th is taken from KT 2nd, and there you always had a choice of at least 2 archetypes/dispositions, I don't expect 11th to change that.
>>98177472I mostly agree BUT BL writers do it very unskillfully most of the time. Pure lore dumps are for splatbooks and Codexes. If it doesn't advance the plot, sketch out immediate/important environmental details, or flesh out the characters, it is usually out of place in a novel.
>We're using AI now
Now what are the legion of the damned? Are they the firehawks?
>>98177600Vengeful spirits that help space marines and then vanish. Rumored to be the firehawks of the cursed founding. Knowing modern GW they will straight up confirm it was true all along.
>>98177600They've been "Minor Demons of the Emperor" since at least Gathering Storm.
Why are people talking about legion of the damned, what'd I miss?
>>98177671See >>98176829
I've never liked 'imperial demons'. I can understand how/why they'd exist in setting but there's just something about them that doesn't sit right with me
>>98177688They're interesting, but they suffer from being yet another special flavor of marine.
>>98176829where is this from?
>>98177708space marine game and always has been, tourist
>>98177727I am a marine fag, nigger
>>98177739okay bud
>>98177726the armageddon book
>>98177514is this AI in the room with us?
>>98177776anon forgot about the secret organ implant marines get that give them a sixth finger
>>98177780Where do you see a sixth finger...?
>>98177776Yes! The AI is with you in the room!Would you like me to write a schizoid rant for you?
>>98177780yeah I see it, had to turn up the brightness, it kind of looks like a continuation of the grip>>98177800there are 5 visible fingers, plus the thumb which should be on the other side of the gun, unless he's using his thumb to pull the trigger.>>98177801Please, work is boring right now.
>>98177043They'll be cool no matter what they do.Only shitty part is that they will 100% have sculpted on flames though.
>>98177800retard
>>98177811You mean like the classic LotD box in the pic you're replying to also had, retard?
is there a good 40k ork unit i could proxy this thing as? maybe one of the speed waaagh buggies?
>>98172798>40k is le battle for mankind's soul!!! Its about chaos!!!I hate the damage these fucking faggots did to the setting so much. The only people who said this were latecomer newfags who were hired as writers after the original creators left the company and they did nothing but fuck up 40k. They don't even know anything about the history of the game they were writing for.>first ever 40k short story is space marines vs orks>first intro scenario is marines vs orks>first white dwarf scenario is marines vs orks>first narrative campaign expansion book is marines vs orks >first 28mm spin-off game is marines vs genestealers>first spaceship battle game is Imperium vs eldar >first hex and chit board wargame is Imperium vs orks >2nd edition starter set is marines vs orks>only campaign book published for 2nd edition was dark angels vs orks>orks got their own necromunda spin-off sidegame, only non-imperium faction to ever get this>first global campaign where player submitted results affected the outcome was Imperium vs tyranids >3rd edition starter was marines vs dark eldar >all three fully new factions added in 3rd edition are xenos (dark eldar, tau, necrons)>first mega global campaign with unique rules and models released alongside it is Imperium vs orks >4th edition starter set is marines vs tyranids >halfway through the edition all the original creatives are finally fed up with GW business board faggotry and leave>new guys get hired like Matt ward, Robin cruddace, ADB>suddenly everything is chaoswank and Horus Heresy faggotry>40k starts nosediving in quality of the lore, rules, art over the next several editions>only Jes Goodwin still puts out anything cool, like the 5th ed dark eldar and the 7th ed skitarii, everything else is trash like centurions and wolf riders of the wolf wolf>GW almost fucking dies until they turn things around in 8th by doing the first hard reset of the rules in 20 years
>>98177809It could actually be a thumb trigger. More likely just a mistake though. Modern AI image generation has largely eliminated the extra finger thing from what I understand.
>>98177817No. I mean sculpted on flames like the Avatar of Khaine has. Those look like shit.What you posted is fine because it is stylized and looks more like iconography, like what you'd expect the Salamanders to have on their armor if there were any units for them.
>>98177817>mk7, mk6 and mk5 parts mixedFuck take me back
>>98177514what is this from, that hand is so bad
>>98177822Find a way to get some rokkit launchas and big shootas on there and I'd call it a fun stand in for a skrapjet.
>>98177845New promotional image of the horus heresy mk4 marines (new)
>>98174404The explanation is quite simple but every time someone talks about this that one autist screeches so meh
>>98177828>>GW almost fucking dies until they turn things around in 8th by doing the first hard reset of the rules in 20 yearsIt wasn't just the rules, it was primaris as well. Big reason why 8th was very big was because GW changed marine designs which did stirr up some controversy, but it also did pull in a new generation of fans.
>>98177050The mad genius of Cawl!
>>98177780>>98177800Maybe its a gift from the gods? its a traitor after all
>>98177828You could also say that the newcomers honed in on what people actually liked about the setting and discarded the original failed conceit.The original conception was "everyone is a different flavor of bad guy, choose your favorite bad guy! No need to pick the good guys as your default faction like every other game!"It turned out that deprived of any actual "good guys", the playerbase will just go with "humans" as the default faction. Because they can actually relate with and root for them. Thus the game became "Humans vs. Everyone".
>>98176963LotD are just warp ghosts.It is a canon fact that the Warp and its denizens are influenced by the perception and thoughts of mortal races that live in real space.So if a person starts to believe there's a volcano named Mount Assblasted Doom within the Warp, that said volcano Mount Assblasted Doom will manifest within it.Same can happen with entities, like the LotD.Since primaris and mk10 armor is becoming more and more common within the galaxy of the Imperium, it would make sense that the LotD's appearance would start to shift to mimic mk10 armor since they are just warp phenomena, meaning they and their forms would be influenced by the perception and thoughts of mortals.
>>98175884Typical, it took them an entire month to errata Mutilators being able to clown-car into CSM transports
>>98176439>>98176471Today's 11th pack also doesn't mention EC.
>>98177872>You could also say that the newcomers honed in on what people actually liked about the settingNo. It was bunch of retard morons who got lucky and got an opportunity to work on their favorite IP.And then started shoving their own faggotry down everyone's throats thinking its the bee's knees.It's the same as having that one autistic as fuck friend who watches anime, who always forces you to watch Evangelion or Naruto with him if you visit his house. And if you ever say that you'd want to watch something else, like Hellsing, Black Lagoon, fuck even Konosuba or To Love Ru, the guy then gets sulky and butthurt.
>>98177872>You could also say that the newcomers honed in on what people actually liked about the setting and discarded the original failed conceit.You could but you would be retarded and wrong because the setting exploded in success during it's first edition, rapidly outgrowing Warhammer Fantasy despite that everyone thought sci-fi wouldn't be as popular as fantasy would. One of the biggest profit drivers of that era was Space Hulk which was marines vs xenos monsters. People still look back fondly on 3rd as the pinnacle of the setting in both art and lore and sometimes rules as well. Almost everyone who was around for the transition to 5th edition agrees that was the beginning of the downfall of everything they liked about 40k.
>>98177113What the fuck are you talking about, you fucking retard?
>>98177903>One of the biggest profit drivers of that era was Space Hulk which was marines vs xenos monsters.>Marines vs xenos monsters.Would you agree that counts as "Humans vs. Everyone Else"?I would play a version of Space Hulk that was Orks vs. Genestealers, but I'm not sure it would have been anywhere near as popular.
>>98177928What are you on about? The point is that the soul of the setting was Imperium vs Xenos, not Imperium vs Chaos. No one said anything about Xenos vs Xenos.
>>98177856>but it also did pull in a new generation of fansThere's literally zero proof of this. Not one person has ever provided even a sliver of proof that there were people who only bought the new Marine models because they were Primaris and not because they were larger and newer sculpts.
>>98177939I think the point is that the playerbase inherently cares about "humans" above all, which makes CSM more attractive as bad guys/foils to the Imperium. The newer writers have homed in on that.
>>98175464
>>98177958permanent means permanent
>>98177846how big is the boss on a trike? pribably too small for that?
>>98177943First model I ever bought was a primaris captain in gravis armor. It's the one with the heavy bolt rifle in his hands.I bought it because it looked cool. Firstborn models were also avaivable, I didn't buy them because I didn't like the designs.
>>98177977Sure, but if they had just called it "Captain in Gravis Armor" you would still have bought it because it looked cool, right? The Primaris lore wasn't the draw.
>>98177043making them look like that.
>>98178004I like the lore too. It's fine.
>>98177977>anecdotal evidence>comparing a new model to old onesPrimarisfags are NPCs who fail the breakfast question. We are not comparing Primaris to old Firstborn. We are comparing Primaris to the new updated proportion Firstborn we would have got instead of them.>but we DID get primaris!>but I DID eat breakfast!Fucking retards.
>>98178018>anecdotal evidence doesn't matter! b-because it just doesn'tOk.I still like primaris more than the old marines, old designs just aren't that great. Only good one is old FW mk3, mk4 and mk5.
>>98178018Please go back to studying for your Intro to Philosophy final, your mother will be very upset if you fail again.
>>98177043The only way to make them well is to make ONE (1) kill team and give them to grey knights/agents and never elaborate on what they are exactly or to add shit to them.an expanded roster ruins them making them primaris ruins themmaking them something important or big fluff wise (like the retards who think they're the emperor's demon army with ferrus or some shit) ruins them
>>98177976Basically the same size as any of the buggies.
Convince me not to start custodes, they kinda cool and cheaper than other armies
Do you think there are servitors created purely for the purposes of sexually pleasuring their masters?
>>98178074NOBODY wants to play against them.
>>98178074the 30k units won't stay cross compatible in 40k for long and those few existing 40k kits will linger and rot in a corner never to be expanded or properly tended to.
>>98178080Maybe for the occasionally weirdo but it’s way cheaper to just buy some slavegirls or trained courtesans. It’d be a custom job, and depends on if a techpriest is willing to do it.
>>98178081I like playing against them, just don't be mad it becomes a game of who nukes who and I roll first turn.t. GSC player>>98178087they'll lose sagitarius at most
>>98178074Women.
>>98178080Flesh and Steel mentions that sex servitors exist
>>98178080Yes, I'm pretty sure that's already canon. But why do that when you can have conventional sex slaves? the servitorisation isn't exactly conductive to creating a sexier person and if you're rich enough to commission a servitor you're rich enough to groom a sex slave from the ground up.
>>98178100Because some creeps want to fuck a walking mid less corpse. There was some guy a while ago who kept making threads about “comfort servitors” for IG.
Servitor that wipes my ass after I shit
>>98173749I guess DEldar Ravager Is quick and nimble. Or just anything eldar counts.
>>98178087For real? One of the reasons I like them is because the telemon and aquilon are really cool>>98178095All my custodes will be male, but I wanted to buy some sisters of silence for the cooler talons of the emperor theme
>>98178109it gets boring pretty fast, I gotta tell you
>>98176867It's not 4 It's...
>>98178118no, everyone panic mongers about legendsing units and it hasn't been panning out for a while. We know what gets legendsed and it's not anything custodes. Except maybe Sagittarium because they missed the infantry release.>All my custodes will be malesome models have sculpted in breasts so you literally can't go all male even if there are the heads to apparently support it.
>>98178118>All my custodes will be malecan't do that, the armors are gendered and with boobplates
>>98177872Its not though. The game currently is humans v humans and xenos are an interesting afterthought. Multiple editors at GW like ADB have stated that the conflict between the imperium and chaos is the CORE of what 40k is. And guess what, we have 8 imperial factions, 7 chaos factions and 8 xenos factions and the xenos are all basically irrelevant for storytelling.
Imagine being triggered by women and then pretending to be straight... LOL
>>98178118>For real?Yes, you've got like 3 years tops.
>>98178126There are at least 41k redditors subscribed to their sub, but who knows how many of those are secondaries....Do Drukhari have secondary fans?
>>98178150>...Do Drukhari have secondary fans?They've got tertiary women thirsting after Marzipan from the RY vidya.
>>98178140>the fag with daddy issues who writes the slop that amounts to less than 1% of the company's revenue says that what he writes is important!lmaonotice how you went for faction numbers instead of the number of kits because 5 out of those 7 are shit with just 3 units and some heroes
big fucking orks
>>98178168who are you quoting? what the fuck are you saying?
>>98178134>>98178137Noooooo ffs
>>98178164>RYShouldn't have let the deliberate Marzipan distract me from proofreading the rest.
>>98178179learn to read, lurk a couple of years before posting, and then you too can find out what words in a greentext mean!
>>98178196I'll record this to my Encylopopedia Schizophragus
Uhm, new thread?
>>98178164and Guys are thirsting over Inbred Fish lady. So I guess It's both sides
>>98178203Those are Imperial Agent fans by proxy, though, not Deldar.
>>98178200Cool name for a diary, but I didn't subscribe to your blog.
>>98178203She's nice to me and responsive to my advances, what more is there to want
yvraine's sweaty feet...
so if i run the corsairs army, does that lock me out of the craftworld aspect warriors or wraith units? what about clowns and dark eldar?the aeldari soup book is a bit confusing
>>98178178how big we talking?
>>98178254Think of the biggest Ork you've ever seen. We're taking 200x bigger.
>>98177828Matt Ward is right and YOU are the latecomer newfag. Or rather, seething and butthurt xenofaggot.Humanity vs Chaos AKA Humanity against itself has been the foundation of the setting since day 1. Same for the Eldar, btw. >new guys get hired like Matt ward, Robin cruddace, ADB>suddenly everything is chaoswank and Horus Heresy faggotrylmao, shows how little you know about GW's history.Hint: go to learn who's Alan Merret and what he did at GW, you retarded midhammer child
>>98178244You can run corsairs, aspects and clowns in any combination. However detachments give bonuses to only one category.You can run dark eldars only if you have yvraine/yncarne general.
>>98178308It should be bannable to be this retarded. Post models you faggot secondary
>>98178343ntayou know the rules
>>98178220A woman who won't leave you braindead if she forgets to put a headband on?
>>98178352>You know the rulesAnd so do I
>>98178308>Humanity vs Chaos AKA Humanity against itself has been the foundation of the setting since day 1.>chaos was added later>the horus heresy was an excuse to have imp vs imp in the same boxHuh?
>>98178308>citing alan merrett as evidence that 40K has always been centered around chaos. grim.
>>98178343YOU are the secondary, retarded midhammer poser. You fags are insufferable, acting like you own 40k or something, when in reality you were at best a clueless kid with no idea of what was going on at GW or among the fandom at the time.The fact that you don't know who Alan Merret is, or Tony Cottrell, says it all. Or that before RT ended the primarch lore was already stablished, with even Russ having a model designed by Goodwin, you washed out poserStop pretending, stfu
>>98178414>it was day 1>actually it was before the end of 1st edlol
>>98178421>"the laughter of thirsting gods">doesn't know that RoC was developed at the same time as RT>Doesn't even know what RoC is>Also hasn't read Dune, so he misses the referenceyawn
>>98178414>chaos existing means everything was completely centered around chaos and nothing else mattered! why? what makes this different than the lore dumps about every other xenos faction, especially the orks who had three different supplements and their own side game?
>>98178445anon, that line is talking about gork and mork. they’re stated to be laughing all the time at the follies of man.
>>98178414Oh yeah Leman Russ the famed Imperial Guard commander in Rogue Trader how could I forget. Shut the fuck up you faggot.
>>98178445>laughing of thirsting godsThere are other gods than the chaos gods, lorelet.>Muh realm of chaos40k was some dude's sci-fi rules mixed with the warhammer fantasy range. Most of the Dune inspirations came from that original, pre rogue trader, game.Clueless one, aren't you?
>>98178308I love how this retarded chaosfag is trying to make this claim while replying to a post that explicitly laid out all the content that was xenos centric before these faggy nu-writers came along. Not only a projecting secondary but also a speedreader.
>>98176109I like it. Bright green orks look cool>>98176521Squat all phobos models already>>98177043>>98176829Honestly I'd be happy if they just went back to the old style where they were just tacticals but with a 3+/3+, bolters that ignored cover, and the ability to deep strike.Give them the inquisition style rule where you can just drop a unit of them into any imperial army and you're good to go.
>>98178414The anon you're replying to wasn't even me, I am the original poster of >>98177828 and you are a retarded faggot projecting. Yes I did know all of that, I read everything from Rogue Trader and still have most of the books. I have an entire image folder of Cottrell's conversions. Nothing you are saying is even relevant to addressing my original point which is that 40k was never about "the battle for humanity's soul against Chaos", that's complete revisionist gaywad bullshit that came from midhammer when newfags like you showed up.>but muh realm of chaosTwo books published originally intended for Warhammer Fantasy that had Warhammer 40k content added to sell to both systems. Meanwhile also in the same edition Orks got three (3) entire books to themselves for just 40k content. Xenos > Chaos in terms of relevance right from the beginning.Don't bother replying with more cope, I'm leaving for work, just needed to BTFO you before I head out the door.
>>98178463The image in >>98178414 is from 1989 (WD117), same as pic related (1st edition Space Marine).
>>98178449>chaos existing means everything was completely centered around chaos and nothing else mattered!no, that's you being an insecure faggot that needs to be the center of attention. 40k has always catered to players of all factions more or less. But the CORE conflict and theme of the setting has always been Humanity vs the Warp/Chaos/itself. Same for the Eldar (and other xenos)>>98178519See above. Your point is fake and retarded. Chaos was even in the ork, GSC and other xenos fluffAlso RoC was written along RT, but RT was delivered first, that's all.
>>98178537alright, but where does chaos being the center of everything come into this? sure, there’s some ancient history and some great heroes, but in the end most of the game was about fighting orks.
>>98178537Didnt realize that 1989 came before 1987, when RT was printed. Weird. Heres an idea! Kill yourself.
>>98178463>pretends to be an oldfag>parrots the memelore about the RT illustration with a mistaken text that didn't even make sense when printed>>98178537Yep. Russ got a 28mm model before the IG tank which carries his name (orignally an epic mini AFAIK)
>>98178600>RT era fluff is just what's in the rulebook and nothing more
>>98178578jarvis, look up the synonym of “core” for me. you also seemed to have not read anything past the greentext. you’re making that claim, but you didn’t provide any reasoning why that its different from orks who also had massive amounts of attention focused around them.
>>98178600I love how this art outs fake grogs like you that do not know what they're looking at.The same kind of retard that thinks Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau was a real character and not just an example for the reader
>>98178616You mean the entire foundation of the argument about CHAOS WAS ALWAYS THE CENTER OF ATTENTION? You genuinely need to end your own life. You will not be missed.
>>98178618>muh attentionYou're still missing the actual point: is not about screen time, but about the main themes that define a faction.And the Imperium is not defined by Orks, or Eldar, etc, but about the conflict against itself AKA chaos.And without the imperium there's no 40k. QED
>>98178118If I ever do custodes imma do exactly one female just to piss losers off
playing 10.5th edition with my 4th edition marines. Can I take a tactical squad and put the 5 with the gun on the table and keep the 5 with the sarge and the other gun in reserve?
>>98178125Lifting even the most ghei fail lore wank from Star Wars.....
>first ever army was GK>get bored of them since no psychic stuff anywhere to be found>draigo canned>switch to playing deathwatch>get bored of marines and need a palate cleanser>go for imperial agents since i already have plenty of their kill teams and my friends have sanctifiers+sisters+immolators>now in 11th BSF is 3DP and IA aren't getting jack shit eitherwhat is wrong with gw
>>98178666don't pick dogshit armies, pick chad armies like the Ultramarines who get all new cool shit every few months.
>>98178657Well aren't we daring today
custodes and knights are for literal babiesadmech and genestealers are for masochistsevery other army is for normal people
Custodes need to be more ad mortem inimīcus
>>98178633this seems more like headcanon on your part, chaos existing, causing dissent, and raiding is done alongside the eldar plotting, genestealers infesting, and orks raiding. there’s nothing that really states chaos is some kind of core conflict to humanity instead of just yet another threat to the imperium hence why they always took equal attention during the early days. notice how when the entirely new writers who came in and outright stated this did the orks, eldar, genestealers, ect. immediately get sidelined and neglected while chaos was constantly focused on.
Bring back daemon weapons as enhancements.
>>98178688>dr*kh*ri>normal peopleNo.
>>98178703What Custodes need is more sex appeal is what it is.
>>98178722I want loyalty's reward back>bolter that dealt mortal wounds to Imperium units
What's next for this faction? When are they getting a centerpiece?
>>98178834Legends
>>98178845but they just came out
>>98178860It's what they deserve.It's a meme "faction" designed to be splashed into other ones, it should go to legends along with Daemons and Knights (of both varieties).
>>98178661Yes. The Combat Squad split happens before any models are deployed and there's no stipulation on which models go in which of the splits, only that you end with two squads of 5 models.
So marines (and everyone who gets a pdf release) can play 11th now? We don't need to wait for another random book? Costs are generally the same from 11th.
>>98178834>centerpieceAfter GW stole the walking throne to give it to another strong female character? Lol. Lmao.
>>98178923tourist
>1 day into 11th edition>there's already half a dozen errata documentsim so tired
>>98178872nice
Will crucible characters be a thing in 11th?
>>98178958Wait and see the Space Marines codex. Since they cut out Crusade as a system they're going to need something to pad out the Codexes. I wouldn't be surprised if every codex comes with its own crucible of heroes segment now. Non-tournament legal of course.
>>98178945But how else can you set the meta if you don't pore over every single word to see what you can break?
>>98178912do we know if that points per weapon thing ever came to pass?im very fearful for my GSC
anyone got that brown eldar skin color chart? i need it for.....reasons
Is it weird that I don't give a fuck about female custodes, but i do care about female space marines.Mainly because Custodes were barely anything until just recently so its not like they were solidly establishedBut I also wonder why we can't have a male only faction. You can have a female only faction in the sisters and in most factions you have strong female representation. so why can't there be a boys club male only faction especially since its fairly established that they're male only. sure if its considered bad by todays morals then who the fuck cares, since the universe already establishes that this empire is bad by the standards of every human empire that came before it. I think female space marines would lack sincerity, and misses the forest for the trees just so that people can feel represented by a mentally traumatized and abused child soldier that has been gentically altered to be a weapon and is only used as such, some how i feel like people shouldn't want to see themselves in that position. But I also feel that custodes already lack sincerity since why the fuck is the palace guard fighting me in the middle of nowhere, so when they made female custodes i couldn't give a flying fuck, also the whole stripped down naked custodes thing after the heresy is just funnier now.anyways thanks for reading or whatever.
>>98178983Yes, but only for select, powerful weapons like lascannons and meltas. You won't be paying for every plasma pistol.
>>98178958if you're playing crusade, who gives a fuck about what's legal
>>98178996>lascannons and meltas.great, so my neophyte squads with 4 heavy weapons and 4 special weapons are about to fucking explode in cost?
>>98179009yeah probably
>>98179009you were already paying for them, retard
>>98179016not really. current cost for a full 20 man squad with all the fixins is only 145, which is 7.25ppmunless you mean to tell me that GW will drop neophytes to like 5ppm and then somehow give me 2 grenade launchers, 2 flamers, 2 seismic cannons and 2 mining lasers all for 40pts?
>>98178994>But I also wonder why we can't have a male only faction. You can have a female only faction in the sisters and in most factions you have strong female representation. so why can't there be a boys club male only faction especially since its fairly established that they're male onlyBecause - and this is the entire point of why it's so contentious and why fans are fighting tooth and nail to prevent female marines from happening - the entire reason the people pushing female marines want it to happen is because they hate us and want to ruin the setting for us. It is literally only an issue for them because it would be a giant FUCK YOU to anyone who doesn't agree with their politics, a symbolic victory for petty tyrants on a power trip who want to ruin your good time for daring not to accept whatever current nonsense cultural agenda they are pushing. Their whole motivation is that they fucking hate you. And while most of them are too pussy to do anything about it that's actually physically threatening, they would still laugh and cheer if they read in the news that you were tortured to death in agony. Ruining your hobbies is the least of what they want to happen to you. All these freaks care about is the culture war they started, it is their entire existence. These miserable leftist fucks don't even know how to live with themselves if they aren't trying to drag down "le evil chuds" to their same level of misery.If these sounds like a crazy hysterical exaggeration I don't blame you because I thought the same until a few years ago when I started paying more attention to shit like this. I used to be a socialist retard as a teenager before I learned better and realized all the people on "my side" were crazy creeps who actually just hated me for being white and born with a penis unless I sucked up to everything they said and never questioned their psychotic lies.
>>98178994Good question, essentially because Warhammer (TM) is a product, and not a piece of art.Whatever GW thinks is good for sales, they will do. Anything can be retconned because they own the IP. Intellectual Property. Not art. Property.
>>98179076>hated me for being white and born with a penismeds immediately
>>98179076>>98178994Next time take this to twitter, at least you can get paid for this culture war conversation bait.
>>98179095>Whatever GW thinks is good for sales, they will doWhich thankfully is why we will never get female space marines now because woke culture peaked a few years ago and is on the decline, and will likely stay on the decline for the next four generation cycle.
>>98179076>I used to be a socialist retard as a teenager before I learned betterI am afraid switching sides did nothing for your retardation. You merely changed out one set of propaganda for another.
>>98179108Yeah I was as clueless as you once.
>>98179122Never underestimate the stupidity of management.
>>98179128>Reddit spacing le enlightened centristlmaooo
>>98173749Left to right, top to bottom.8,4,5, 6, 7, 4, 5, 9, 5, 7, 6, 8, 8, 5, 6, 6, 9, 6, 4, 7, 10, 4
>>98173506Successor chapters are the Glup Shitto of 40k.
>>98179143Honestly true except for Black Templars
>>98179143>Glup ShittoIt's so funny that you keep using this forced term because the original tweet was clearly a casual normalfag that couldn't recognize any characters except the obvious surface level ones.Anyone that isn't an Ultramarine or a Primarch is a Glup Shitto
>>98179159idk what tweet your talking about anon, this is my 1st time posting here today.
>>98179159funny, you claimed that I was the same person a few weeks ago when you were throwing a fit about something elseI wonder how many false accusations you make on the daily schizo
>>98179143>using images with pr*maris helmetsYuck!
>>98179174>funny, you claimed that I was the same person a few weeks agoFunny you claim that I am the same person from a few weeks ago. This is my first time commenting on the matter. It's a buzzword that I haven't seen anywhere else other than /40kg/ so the conclusion that it's the same person is completely reasonable.
>>98179181>It's a buzzword that I haven't seen anywhere else other than /40kg/retard alert
>>98179181You obviously don't understand what the term 'buzzword' means if you are drawing that conclusion. Nta btw.
Can I proxy this guy as a Knight Crusader?
he's right, the glup shitto spam is retarded and you are a faggot for repeating a gay twitter meme
>>98178722What the fuck are those proportions lmao looks awful
>>98179076I don't think its out of maliceI honestly believe its just peoples reactions, precisely because its almost Expected. Like I said It lacks sincerity, its not done to add to the setting, but because that's what was always done.>>98179095absolutely. Corporate culture is always money focused, even if they take actions that directly harm their ability to make money, the decision was usually made with the expectation of greater sales. But I think sincerity to the setting matters more than going through a universal business playbook. When you handle an IP, the IP is important, Look at how disney fumbled star wars, by applying their childlike black and white morality to a war setting. It lacked the nuance that made the originals interesting and it destroyed the value of the IP. you can't just take universal playbooks and apply them without sincerity. Primaris and Custodes felt bad because their retcons or introductions lacked sincerity. There was very little care in how it affected the setting despite some attempts at doing so with primaris. Same with when Tau were introduced people hated them because they felt they lacked sincerity to the setting.Compare this to GSC and Votann both who were much more well recieved because their inclusion into the setting to a lot of care and thought and they felt like they naturally fit in. I think ultimately my own opinion is kind of divided, on a lore aspect I like the idea of the Coed faction (custodes), The male faction (space marines) and female faction (sisters of battle) of being 3 different aspects of power armored soldiers, and that we are already over saturated with power armor as is. But on the other hand people should be allowed to do whatever they want with their models as long as if they're playing a game they're following the rules.
>>98178722I wonder when we'll come full circle and they'll be a bunch of universal enhancements for each codex.
>>9817918140k General: Glupp Schizo Edition
>>98179235What's /40kg/'s favourite glupshitto poster?
>>98178994The biggest problem for me is that they retconned lore that has been established for 30 years and then pretended like they didn't do anything wrong with the whole "there have always been female custodes".So pretty much the message I got from that is that they could change anything at any moment because they have 0 respect for their setting.
I love this golden hour where the pajeets and feds are both awake and they're circle jerking with forced culture war bullshit like right now
>>98179143First founding chapters are shit and boring. Successor chapters mog them. Every first founding chapter has at least one successor that is cooler than them. The only exception is imperial fists, in which ALL successors are cooler than them.
>>98178109>Because some creepsCalm down with that atifa radicalism.
>>98179279What's the cooler successor chapter than salamanders, raven guard, white scars, and iron hands?
>>98179264>>98179076Stop being terminally online and getting mad at what other terminally online people say. Touch grass, go outside, paint a fucking model yourself, just stop being this pathetic bro.
>>98179282dark krakens, black dragonsraptors, necropolis hawksmantis warriors, iron talonssons of medusa, steel confessors, brazen claws
>>98179282dark krakens, raptors, storm lords, red talons
>>98179293you own no models, this isn't your hobby
>>98179294You are a lying pedophile and my models are older than you are.
>>98179282NTA, but in my opinion, in order: Covenant of Fire, Death Spectres, Storm Lords, Iron Fists. I just think they're neat chapters.
>>98179300>deflection and liesclassic, how soon are you gonna break down into spamming and getting banned this time?
>>98179305>everyone who disagrees with me is the same personYou are a schizo. I wasn't here for whatever the last time you pushed retarded leftist stuff in /40kg/ and got pushback for it was.
>>98179316>everyone who disagrees with me is the same personNobody said that, take your meds
>>98179321You literally just implied I've been banned before for arguing with you, and now you're being dense on purpose about it, and you aren't clever, and you aren't fooling anyone.
>>98179253The Drukhari Refreshment Fella
>>98179326I'm hearing a lot of schizophrenia and not a lot of modelposting
>>98179343I have better things to do than argue with a delusional troon whose entire playback is "lie, then double down, then triple down, even when you know everyone knows you are lying", and "try to get people to post models attached to political opinion reply chains to dox them".I'm leaving and letting everyone know I'm leaving so you can't start samefagging replies to yourself as bad strawmen to "win" an internet argument. Sayonara, creep!
>>98179343Nta but wheres yours?
>>98179253I'm also going to say DERICICFI poster. It's like rooting for a Sisyphus and watching him try his hardest for nothing every day.
>>98179351>I-I'm leavingyou're pretending to run away because you have no models lmaoYou'll pop back up pretending to be somebody else defending your meltdown when people continue to laugh at you in your """absence""">>98179353right here, just finished a duo of these guys
>>98179375cute!
>>98179294>>98179343I'm not that anon and my models aren't that old but I agree with everything they're saying and here's my newest dude broke up into subassembly right as I'm starting painting. Now your turn.
>>98179397Too slow primertide tourist
>>98179399You posted two models from a starter set you probably bought prepainted off ebay, and you're defending female marines, you don't get to call anyone tourist.
>>98179401>y-you bought those prepaintedcute cope tourist-kun>defending female marinesnope! Just gatekeeping culture war niggerfaggots like (you)
>>98179397Almost as embarrassing as the fag who posted an unopened box of orks thinking that counted
>>98179409>an unopened box is the same as a primed model on the painting matt literally about to be painted right nowOk lmaoI have a whole bunch of finished ones it's joining but I'm not showing the doxxing tranny my color scheme
>>98179409I wonder if he ended up painting those. I’m quite fond of the metal kommandos.
So, what's the deal with aircraft? I would love to get a valkyrie for an air-cav larping cadian army, but is air just bad? I hear nothing but negatives for everything associated with flying
>>98179399why does it matter if its wip or not? like a dude who chose to sub assemble, and primed his model with a good finish and is going to be a newbie who has no other finished models. c’mon dude.
>>98179412you’re thinking way too highly of yourself, and overestimating these people if you think they’re going to track you down or remember you based on paint scheme.
>>98179412>I-I totally have a bunch of finish models a-and you're a trannyit's so easy to gatekeep larpers like (you) lmao
>>98179441Bro thinks he's gatekeeping someone who already has three armies and runs the LGS organized play with his ebay Indomitus box run off lmao
>>98179449>I-I totally have three armies and play a lot!!!>y-you bought yours on ebay!!!adorable cope, tourist-kunI can't wait for 2 years from now when that patriarch still isn't finished and you're still crying in here like you belong
>>98179441>finish modelsESL pajeet detected
>>98179455>patriarchThat's a Broodlord actually, but thanks for confirming who the tourist really is, not that it was ever in doubt.
>>98179460(you) tried>>98179469I don't keep track of meme armies sorry larper
>>98179473>Tyranids are a meme army>says a guy who posted a starter set box filler unit from NecronsI can't even with this projecting tourist anymore, fucking kek
>>98179482Maybe you'll be taken seriously when you finish your first model bud
>>98179485How about you post something that isn't from an edition launch box easily findable prepainted on the secondary market?
>>98179488I will once you can post anything at all that you've actually finished
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>>98179496>it only counts if I can dox you with itKnew it, kek. You have no other models do you?
>>98179502look at this pathetic deflection>y-you'll dox me!!!the cry of the eternal tourist
this thread is cringe
>>98179522agree. waiting for next thread to bless it with hobby progress.
eh, loathe as I am to join questionably on-topic tangents, I also play dnd and mtg and we have also had to deal with that type of person who just wants to teardown other people's hobbies because they see it as a "battlefield" for thier "war" and you are "the enemy". You don't have to scour online spaces to find these people. So the guy complaining about this has a point. You can avoid them by having your group of friends you game with, but if you're ever at an event of an lgs, or you are in a group looking for games or you to go events etc, you'll start meeting a few. I mostly pity them, since their life is dictated by malice and hate. The good news is most corporations and entertainment industry are starting to realize that catering to them is not actually profitable, and the silent majority that doesn't spend time online but does buy movie tickets or game supplies doesn't like the message these hateful people try to dictate.
New? Pls
>>98179502dude, you are not getting doxxed off a single model especially when you have three different armies you presumably use. like seriously, what would be the steps for someone to see your model, and then find your info through it? in fact, demonstrate for us. here’s my model, I’ve posted it on my social media with all my info on it. try to dox me with it right now and see how far you go.
>>98179540triangulatedsending bad dragons now
>>98179293>>98179294Holy fuck guys, the whole point of my initial post was sincerity in the hobby.I think if some one came up to me and they had an army with female space marines but they had a loreful reason as to why and the army was lovingly crafted and it was just them playing with their dudettes then i'd be fine with that, to me that's sincere. but if its forcing gw to make box kits that are 50/50 male/female body types and it forces people to play co-ed forces instead of giving people the choice of all male or all female, then its insincere as it not only isn't about a persons personal feelings, but about imposing them upon others, and then removing choice from the consumer. This would be completely insincere.so to me its not a gender issue or a cultural issue but a sincerity issue. Are you a true hobbiest who wants to be included and make their army their way or is this just another hill to plant a flag on for the culture war one way or another. I find most trans color schemes really insincere since they are quite literally just flag planting. And most of them are quite obviously poorly done on a technical level.
>>98179522YOUR CRINGE
>>98179267I mean they retconned the lore a few years earlier by sending the custodes out into the universe instead of being palace guards, so I think custodes fans are insincere fans in their own way.
>>98179522We need to scape, this place is already condemned
>>98179264You know, if they sex changes were allowed to happen, this would solve ittself. Maybe the jannies could put their raises towards it.
>>98179531I would guess that the people who deny the decay of the industry either don't play games or they got lucky and have a regular friend group from before a lot of stuff went to shit. Trying to grind Roll20 or other similar spaces to find players that aren't complete and utter dregs is cock and ball torture.I'm lucky to have a LGS with typical nerd men but the bigger cities I've been to have some absolute creatures, especially the GW stores themselves. I still disagree that the ones actually try to engage with any of these franchise as a primay are actually malicious, they're just freaks that are too gross even for the likes of fat greasy nerd dudes. The only ones trying to "ruin" tabletop are nogamez, nomodelz, nocardz faggots on Twitter and Reddit that use tabletop as a costume.
>>98179264>be trans>use the words "you will never" in shitpostWide open for the counter
>>98179574No, that was gw advancing the custodes lore. They stayed on terra THEN they were told to move their asses. Very different from a retcon that says there has been female custodes for the past 10k years.If they wanted to do this in a non retcon way they could have said >Well now that the custodes are out there fighting and have way more casualties we're gonna need more recruits so we're gonna start recruiting from the daughters of the nobility of terra too so we can keep up with the casualties
>>98179612yeah I agree, that would haven been a more sincere way to do it. I should also point out my personal bias against custodes, I don't think they added anything to the game, being just yet another power armor human faction.
>>98179286>how does people being out to get you affect you personally?
>>98179562>50/50 male/female body typesThey should do a census of the playerbase and base the gender representation on that.They would need to remove half the female characters.
>>98179629I thought you were running away
>>98179629Go see a therapist
>>98179660I'm a different anon.>>98179666Nah Satan.
>>98179640Do you really want more trans models though
>>98179691There's enough in Custodes and Admech.
>>98179718Votann is the tranny army anon, they disguised male dwarfs as female.
>>98179756So there now the Marathon army?
I haven't played in ages (probably 5th ed?), but would like to get back into it to have something better to do on my downtime.i quite like these armies by their looks and lore. any of them you'd recommend that you consider fun to play and paint?>Black Templar>World Eaters>Iron Warriorsi really like the religious zealot aspect of the BT, i like the aggro nature of WE and i like the ruthlessness/autism of IW. I'm mostly looking to paint stuff, but i'd like to not get completely stomped if i ever play lol
>>98179585Or they're just new to this thirty-year old hobby.
>>98179788>>Black TemplarOne of the better loyal marine options, especially taken with the Gladius Detachment rules. >>World EatersRather linear in how they play. It's hard to build them without Angron, and with Angron, it's "unga-bunga Angron into the enemy, kill some things, die, resurrect, unga-bunga again"But most WE players consider that fun.>>Iron WarriorsThey're currently just generic CSM, you choose how you want to fluff them out. Can be like all the other IW "we're totally not corrupted!" fags and run HH models instead of 40k CSM.Good possibility of getting Peter Turbo model this coming edition, so they could be getting a dedicated army book, or at least a determined identity beyond "CSM with lots of vehicles/daemon engines"
>>98179807angron isn't useful anymore, double daemon prince is far more effective for hardly anymore points
>>98179788Iron warriors and Black Templar will give you the model ranges of chaos/space marine, which will allow you to branch out with what your army can do play style wise.
How many of you niggers are just lurking waiting for a new thread to post something?
>>98179865I am
>>98179874What post is gonna be yours so I know to skip it
>>98179815points change as the wind blows. builing a collection based on whats points efficient right this minute is a bad idea. by the time you get done painting the army, points will have changed, a FAQ may drop, and a new meta will emerge.better to build a healthy collection and buy the fun models than try to run some more efficient spam. also, from a hobbying perspective, if you're playing world eaters and not collecting angron what the fuck are you doing with your life?
>>98179865I have a really good post ready
>>98179865Hell I'd make one myself if I wasn't at work.
>>98179807>Can be like all the other IW "we're totally not corrupted!" fagsThey use demons as batteries and cut off mutated flesh. not everyone wants to be a demons fleshlight.
>>98174560I’ve always hated “post models” because that shit makes people one step away from namefags and helps line corporate pockets while also stuffing most discussion into a coffin.
>>98179973you could've just said you're a secondary it would've been a lot less typing
>>98179788Just look into what you think would be a fun thing to play, paint, and invest time into. I've been slowly building a word bearer / iron warrior mixed army for example. All my IW are ranged and armoured with all my WB being melee, swarming with cultists and possessed abominations. It's all about finding a story in the army you make and just having fun at the end of the day.
>>98179973>helps line corporate pocketsNigger you're in the dedicated general thread for a corporate franchise.
>>98179987He's a lorefag who thinks he matters, ignore him
>>98179984this boxset would be so sick. it's pretty much my favorite infantry models. when is it coming out?i think IW will be my first pick, but ngl i really do love the look of BT, especially the HQ models. i just want to crusade.but as you mentioned, im planning on spending a lot more time modeling and painting rather than list-building and playing meta. BT and IW just both happen to look really neat>>98179807thanks for the breakdown. i don't really mind the generic CSM. i think their scheme is cool and i like demon engines. my favorite model back in the day was the Defiler, so kinda happy to see it getting an update
>>98179967cope harder redditor
>>98179967Who's got that "I'm not like the other chaos sheeple" train carriage pic
>>98180032>when is it coming out?it already released, and was instantly sold out and scalped to oblivion. sorry for the bad news.
>>98180032>when is it coming out?Unfortunately it already came out a little while ago. You'll have to look around and see if you can find one. On the plus side, there's nothing unique in this box aside from the upgrade sprue of heads and helmets, which are listed as a separate thing you can buy, but knowing GW, it'll stay out of stock for quite awhile.
>>98180078>dead links>check>all subhuman faggot mods covering for their discord kittens and left wing agitpropGlad to see nothings changed around here
>>98180096meds
>>98180053>>98180035facts are not cope. we are better than you, niggers
>>98180114You're larping as a delusional chaos slaveYou're even more pathetic than the iron cucks are
>>98180124mhmm whatever your head cannon tells you buddy
>>98180132It's not headcanon, you're a coping redditor
>>98179225>Compare this to GSC and Votann both who were much more well recieved because their inclusion into the setting I remember lots of people shitting on Votann for being woke because they had black dwarf women heads, being beardless men (comapred to the waist long beards of fantasy dwarfs). People just get mad at whatever new is added to 40k,
>>98176848dead thread i know but there's something really gay and weak about posts like thispeople used to make their doomposts humorous but now it's just "ooooh gw is gonna fuck meeee"
I like the idea of chaos marines angry that they didn't inherit the imperium but I HATE primarchs having gay baby daddy issues with Big E is GAY
>>98180153>all csm are the exact sameyou sound stupid, tranny
>>98180173>all CSMno, only the faggoty ones areword bearers and the cult legions are basedyour delusional redditor warriors are not
>>98180173which csm legion wouldn't think they're right and everyone else around them is retarded?
Man I fucking wish Gene stealer cults were nearly half as fun to paint as flesh eater courts. I dont get why everything in this range is filled with so much detail, it doesnt even really add to anything imo.
>>98180187So just kitbash flesh eater court stuff to be GSC
>>98180192sounds like a fun idea, but idk. I kinda wanna wait for gsc to get another actual wave before I capitalize on them.
>>98180195Another wave? what are they even missing, what could be added, GW has just been ading random heroes for them for a while now.
>>98180187Crypr ghouls have heaps and heaps of spare heads and arms IIRC.Also their arms are so skinny you could easily give gsc models a 3rd arm each without it looking too busy
>>98180200the limo, some more mutated stuff I guess. brood brothers somehow arent even in the codex I think as well for some reason. probably a command squad?
>>98180207>the limoRetconned with the chaos cult aspect of GSC
>>98180217Grim.
>>98180181>redditor warriorsyou are so pathetic, low IQ nigger>>98180182maybe follow the conversation
>>98180237aww the redditor's getting a little uppity tonight isn't xhe
>>98180256>redditoryou sure know a lot about reddit maybe go back
>>98180266>n-no udamn, you're as braindead as perty huh
>>98180269>n-no unot even close to what happened. I pity you
>>98180273>not even close to what happenedif you think that's true you should really be sure you know what the words you post mean lmao
Tau are cool :)
>>98180276just so stupid. I'm glad you dont like the based Iron Warriors. makes them that much cooler
>>98180285Autistic and mentally deficient or genuinely twelve years oldcall it
>>98180288>more head cannonneat!
>>98180296it's an ESL tootruly the trifecta of a reddit warriors fan
>>98180301>even more head cannon what else am I in your tiny mind?
>>98180302NTAIt's headcanonYou fucking ESL retard
>>98180304>headcanonits not a real word. ESL
>>98180312It's in the dictionary and has been for over a decade, retard-kun
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>>98180318well that's incredibly dumb, I coincide. but the other guy is still a dumb nigger
>>98180312It is, canon is a real word that is different from cannon, ESL-kun
>>98178244corsairs and harles are both just IN the aeldari codex, nothing makes them mutually exclusive. If you want multiple of their characters you need to bring one of the 2 harle focused detachments though. You can bring all aeldari stuff they just dont get buffed by your detachment rule. all the army rules work just fine. You can also run corsairs in dark eldar because the Anrathe or however its spelled rule that says you can do that. Dark Eldar also have a detachment that lets you take half your army in Harlequins.
>>98178666Lmao nigga get better taste
>>98179989>>98179981Bootlicker>>98179987The place used to be a lot less like an ad.
