Mark 4 Slop edition Previous Heresy: >>98161089>HH 3.0 - Complete gofile - All Books:https://gofile.io/d/cnJk0N>Titanicus Compendiumshttps://gofile.io/d/qdYzem>New Edition, to a great wailing and gnashing of teeth:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/setting/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS>30k TACTICA & TIPShttps://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLphttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/3.0_Tactics/General_Tactics『Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis』>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloadshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/legions-imperialis/>List of Titan Legions with Badges and Colourshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jccq0V--SwJifLVLwbisYnQeqLlS2pMSiPbGXp1Brs/htmlview>More listshttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Titan_Legions>What size magnets do I need?5x1mm>Tacticshttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Adeptus_Titanicus/Tactics>Legions Imperialis Army Builderhttps://legionbuilder.app/>Thread Question: How are you going to gatekeep all the 40kiddies that'll be rushing to HH with the release of nu-mk4 and the failure of 11th?
Still waiting for plastic MkV
>>98177131>failure of 11thThe edition isnt even out yet is it? How can it already be a failure.
Post models
xth for numk3 and numk6 master races
>>98177131Have the balls to tell them no to unreasonable requests that break immersion.
>TQWelcome them so long as they don’t bring any whiff of primaris dogshit with them. What happened with 11th already kek?
>TQBy playing an edition that would fry their little minds.
>>98177155Well, by process of elimination thats the next one. Either that or MKVII for the scouring.
>>98177171>no MkISad
>>98177190What's the current fluff stance on MkI, is it exclusively Thunder Warrior armour, now or did early Marines still get some suits?
>>98177166Nothing yet, it went on preorder. Based on the rules preview, it’s just an expansion of 10th, with all the connotations included. Wargear is still gone, unit sizes are still based on pseudo-power levels that someone at GW insists on using, and army rules are now based on detachments.
>>98177190>>98177200Having No pants is tactically unsound
>>98177158Preorders didn't sell out instantly. So the sky must be falling.
>>9817713111th is actually good tho
>>98177230The starter is fucking expensive.
>>98177212Ah. Well it’s still shit, then.>>98177215Freeballing in combat is the strongest flex imaginable
>>98177160proonted magos auxilia and tech priest
>>98177161Nu MKIII is bad, thougheverbeit
Titanicus has been played, again. I lost today's match after I exploded half the field by accident.
How's current edition Solar Auxilia looking? I've got some Solar Aux I need to finish up painting but just want some concensus from Veterans on what to expect when playing Solar Aux
>>98177155They couldn't even model studs onto the nuMkIV legs and knees bro keep fucking dreaming
>>98177302Turn 1 and 2 were fairly normal. My knights ran up the field quickly, Stipes overextended itself and was destroyed but it got a kill first, and Bossman got beat up pretty bad.
>>98177308So add them yourself
>>98177310Blastermaster did pretty well this game again, but I messed up the Pale King's placement and it was only able to destroy a warhound after three turns of blasting away at it.
>>98171278>>98176107Glad that someone caught on it. There are a lot of details on the boxart there that are just screaming 'AI.'It's funny because GW announced they wouldn't use AI but here it is.
>Nu MKIV>influx of players trying to proxy primaris as HH-era marines now
>>98177328But turn 4 was fucking bonkers. My lancers destroyed a warhound which caused a meltdown and damaged another warhound. The Pale King destroyed a warhound which caused a magazine detonation. Then the knights magera destroyed a warhound which exploded and killed another warhound which wild fired and destroyed Blastermaster whose explosion killed the knights magera and removed my models from the objective marker and lost me the game. And the acastus knight was one point of damage away from being destroyed by the first warhound's explosion.
>>98177313If MkIV is so great, how come they were looking for replacements before the Heresy even started? MkVI isn't some cheap mass-produced suit, it still keeps plenty of the advancements of the MkVI, like the new armour materials and cabling (which lacked from the MkV, forcing it to bolt on extra plates and external cabling).
>>98177171>Mk7 is released>mfw the heresy game doesn't have heresy armorOmega kek
>>98177375where is pic from?
>>98177155Most important question is plastic vorax WHEN?? Love those bug-eyed monstrosities.
Where are the studs?
>>98177330>It's funny because GW announced they wouldn't use AI but here it is.Let's see what they said
>>98177401look in the mirror cutie
>>98177305Very solid. Probably the best SA has ever been. No one or two broken builds army like in 1e, but neither completely non-functional like in 2e.
>>98177401This isn’t your dating app, homo
The Mk2 Assault Squad had a few two-handed special melee weapons, I imagine that unless they lose the shields the Mk4 Assault Squad will only have a few spears and not enough for the whole squad. I don’t think it’d be a loss either, if they’re reusing the Mk6 Jump Packs they may use the Mk6 Astarte Shields too.
>>98177375nta but Mk4 is so great because it is the pinacle of power armor. What this means is that it incorporates a lot of new technologies and techniques that were rediscovered during the Great Crusade.So if you got a suit of mk4, congrats, you got the best shit around. Now what if it gets damamged? That's the problem; your suit is so great and full of special parts that it's a pain to replace and repair.Ideally mk4 would be the norm, but when you add bad supply lines and attrition, you have to adapt.
>>98177393Armour cards that came with the 7e Special Edition Codex: Space Marines.
>>98177418Notice how the sprue has no Mk6 specific part?How much are we betting that the mk4 assault squad has the exact same sprue?
>>98177431>GW is losing so much money on Horus Heresy they needed a retcon as an excuse to reuse the MKVI jump pack sprue
>>98177431FW would be proud.
>>98177459>losing moneyThey're mostly being cheap.
>>98177459>retconJump packs were no more tied to armor marks than bolters.
>>98171278>>98177330kek they ran it thru with an AI filter ontop
>>98177482Accept it, your game is a financial failure and not even all the marine paypiggies in the world can save it
>>98177491Yeah, it’s in dire straits. I’d encourage you to go play 40k or AoS and never return because it’s so bad here
>>98177491Good, let Heresy stuff return to 40k
>>98177131>changed the backpackLooks terrible and I haven't even seen the back of it yet. The previous design was basically the perfect homage to the 2ed design and it's beautiful. I don't get this dedication they seem to have with making the crest of the back pack rounded, thus softening the silhouette. They've also either made the BP wider or reduced the size of the vents. The result is the proportions look off compared to previous designs (the new MkVI one looks terrible too).The front hand guard of the bolter has also been lowered slightly and ruined the proportions IMO.
>>98177487These are clearly artificer jump packs and should not be used as an example
>>98177512>kids don't remember when MkIV came with Phaeton pattern backpacks, the same as MkV and VI
>>98177512>tigrus handguardIncredible. They managed to redesign it again. Rapier crew tigrus has the old style handguard
loyalists see this and go be like “just give me a 10 man autocannon squad bro easy peasy” we actually did end up winning though lol
>>98177541Looks pretty similar to Phaeton pattern heavy lift packs, just with a different intake and wings (just like the old Sanguinary Guard's Angelus jump packs).
>>98177541Theyre actually corvid jump packs. >>98177473But marks are not "tied" to a specific pattern of jump pack.
>>98177401In hell where they belong.
>>98177554Bro your ruins are infested call an exterminator
>>98177554>marines just walking across lava Narrative is dead and nu fags killed it
>>98177330Which other parts scream AI? It doesn’t surprise me that GW would use it, but I still have a suspicion that the extra finger may simply be GW being incompetent with firearms and making the thumb on the outside grip.
>>98177561>Theyre actually corvid jump packs.Which, according to 3.0 Liber Astartes, are "A redesigned version of the tried and tested Warhawk pattern jump pack" Aka. this new HH jumpa pack. Can't wait for them to make updated Dark Furies and they're using the same jump pack. Maybe with some upgrade bits in the body sprue.
MkVI released>Uhhh guess I'll do Alpha Legion.MkIII released>Uhhh guess I'll do Death GuardMkII released>Uhhh guess I'll do Iron Warriors>MkIV released>Now I can finally do all the legions I actually wanted to do in the best armour.Word Chads looking supreme as always.
>>98177591>making the thumb on the outside grip.That's be a very index looking thumb
>>98177131Man thank God GW ignored the snoot fuckers, I was scared they were actually going to go with that design because MuH nOsTaLGiA like they ruined mk3
>>98177431I mean, it’s probable. They’re just reusing assets at this point, though they already had the phaeton jump pack sculpts from the old Sanguinary Guard kit. It’s a shame, would’ve made kitbashing things like Angel’s Tears a lot easier.
>>98177431>How much are we betting that the mk4 assault squad has the exact same sprue?100 %They've reused the one accessory sprue across all kits.
>>98177620You tried.
>>98177622>though they already had the phaeton jump pack sculpts from the old Sanguinary Guard kitNTA, but that was likely before they started doing CAD slop so they'd have to resculpt it from scratch
>>98177609It also appears to be on the trigger, so I guess it’s not a thumb.
>>98177431That's literally what it's meant for. Check the jetbike sprue too. Rider is completely separate.Or look at the tank sprues that get reused
>>98177605Had the same mindset. Been waiting for mkIV for Blood Angels, it seems to align with the art far more than the other marks.
>>98177643All the heavy weapons arms are also on their own sprue, but they haven't bothered to release arms for other marks.
>* Like the MkIII kits, the Tactical Squad comes with a set of vambraces so you can convert the arms in the Special, Heavy, and Melee weapons sets to look more like regular MkIV arms.Thank goodness. The spares will also help the MkII guys look better too
>>98177622GW loves reusing assets, they love copy pasting. But they're not smart enough to use it in a good way to cut pointless labor (like old hand sculptors reusing parts and modifying them).>sang guardThey made a primaris angelus jump pack, and then only gave it to two characters.What did they give the sang guard? The same jump pack as the assault intercessors, but with some winged skull on the flap and a blood drop on the core.There may be some hope if they do Legion Specific Units in plastic. Maybe.
>>98177659>All the heavy weapons arms are also on their own sprue, but they haven't bothered to release arms for other marks.Those arms are designed to be mark agnostic. They aren't fully any single one.
>>98177620That's me. I wanted them to go full nostalgia with mk4 like they did with mk2 & 3.>>98177643>>98177659I hate those generic arms so much.We could get mk4 on jetbikes indeed, pilots are separate.
>nu mk4 are taller than mk6 and mk3What’s up with GW’s allergy to consistency lately?
>>98177672Thus making them not fit any armour mark.
>>98177687>>nu mk4 are taller than mk6 and mk3No they're not lmao
>>98177622It's weird that the MkIV jump pack is called a "Phaeton pattern" instead of the MkV jump pack, which is built on the Phaeton pattern power pack. Then again, the Sol-Harrier jump pack is built on the Mars pattern power pack, so go figure.>from the old Sanguinary Guard kitThey did tweak the backpack under the thruster unit to look more like the FW MkIV power pack.
>>98177692Yeah, I dislike them. Definetely a suboptimal solution. However the only time they really annoy me are on MkII, but hopefully all the spare MkIV vambraces will be able to help counter it.
>they're keepin the cool jumppack for the destroyersIt has to be!
>>98177724uhh....
I think the new MkIV helmets will make good scout helmets for 40k.Slightly smaller but still pretty primarisy.
>>98177687Where’d you get the idea that the new mkIVs are taller?
sovloh how far we have strayed
>>98177760>Still no plastic land speeder
>>98177759I estimate some degree of scale-creep approximately every 4 years
>>98177759
>>98177736I'd suck dick for those crew models in old HH size.
>>98177488kek post it on the 40k reddit to make them piss themselves trying to shill gw
Actually tempted to get one box of the current Mk IV. Not because I need more marines, but as a reminder of better times.
>>98177375>expensive>finicky>hard for marines to service themselves>proprietary circuitry that was a bitch to graft working replacements intoRead the books before pretending to be a lorefag
>>98177798You sound like a Reddit queeroid. Go dilate with a resin mini. You do have minis right anon. Surely you’re not posting this gay shit on the board of a game you don’t play
>>98177914>but anon why would they ever replace Tartaros with indomidusLel
>>98177375>If MkIV is so great, how come they were looking for replacements before the Heresy even started?Because it was expensive. MKIV armor is to power armor what volkites are to bolters. As a piece of gear it is superior, as a logistical element in a warmachine its expensive and unwieldy. The sicaran is similarly "a better vehicle" than the predator. But the Sicaran was expensive and difficult to manufacture, while the predator wasnt, which is why in 10,000 years time you have assloads of predators and no sicarans.Ditto for why indomitus armor became the default terminator plate despite being the worst pattern of terminator armor from a performance perspective, providing neither the protection of cataphrachtii nor the mobility of tartaros, because it was the cheapest model that produced acceptable results. This is genuinely one of the few things 40k does "realistically", in the military it is rarely "the best" weapon that is used, but the most cost effective one, the one that can produce good enough results for the cheapest possible cost.
So, why does the plastic Falchion instructions say to NOT glue the hatch that rests below the guns?I really can't figure it out. There's not enough friction to hold it, a 30k crew would bump into the gun, and I don't think a 40k peeking crew marine can fit either
>>98177982It's probably just a mistake. They're not super uncommon on build instructions.
>>98177963>MKIV armor is to power armor what volkites are to bolters.Inferior gimmick weapon enjoyed by homos?
>>98177963>despite being the worst patternAnd before this retcon is was functionally identical to the tartaros.
>>98177160Working on the hull of my glaive!
>>98177620>hating the snootEat shit and die!
>>98178039Shouldn't have parked it in the hood.
>>98178048kek
I hope they keep this new battlegroup cuz it's WAY better in my opinion than the Saturnine box
>>98178070It's too good to keep.
>>98178085I know :(
>>98178070Surprisingly decent box this time around. Good variety of units, and having multiple of them doesn’t really hurt either.
>>98178032Flatly superior piece of technology prevented from mass adoption in favor of inferior replacements by cost.
>>98178070Remember the mk3 battlegroup?
>Right-handed bolt pistol in the MkIV assault marine kitDESTROYER KIT COMINGDESTROYER KIT COMINGDESTROYER KIT COMINGDESTROYER KIT COMINGDESTROYER KIT COMINGDESTROYER KIT COMING
People are coping hard on the AI Mk4 promo image>Can't believe my favorite greedy company is using AI
>>98178260>inb4 the mk4 assault squad is the same as the destroyer kit
>>98178260Fuck my ass never mind, looks like they're left handed. GW mirrored the promo image for some reason.
>>98178273>Fuck my assI thought you'd never ask.
>>98178261Whatever the circumstances, GW still signed off on it. They got the final responsibility.
>>98177131the same 5 poses they've been using since nu-mk6bravo GW
>>98178284This. Human error or AI it still shows quality control is mediocre
>thinking I might just grab 10 off ebay to convert into some tac vets >go to look for some combi bolters I can slap on them, and maybe a pair of backpack heavy bolters >forgot how mangled the only power armor combi bolters COMBI WEAPON KIT WHEN GW 5 OF EACH POWER ARMOR COMBI WEAPON (including bolter, volkite, grav, and grenade) AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
>>98177488anon, any reasonably competent adult could do that with photoshop
>>98177160I kind of fucked up the orientation of the proont
>>98177626To be honest I'm fine with this and the identical poses and sculpt-matching, if only because it means my purposes (kitbashing them into Chaos) are much easier - I can just slop and slap different chunks of different marks together and say it's because my spikey boyz snagged whatever they could off corpses while fleeing Terra. Plus I like having a bank of spare parts.
>>98178187A standard bolter can deal with hordes or armoured enemies, have range, target specific creatures, etc. all by simply switching out what munitions you feed it. A volkite does one thing and one thing only. Besides, volkite isn't even the cool kids on the block anymore, we got disintegrators to take their place as the deadly cool ray gun held back by inferior technology and production capability.
>>98178304Getting pr00nts myself, got the original headhunter kill team kit from FW and bloody hell the combi-bolters they kept sending me were increasingly un-salvageable. Good thing I was going to give them combi-meltas anyway.Thinking about giving a veteran tactical squad banestrike combi-bolters for shits and giggles, but definitely getting pr00nts for that.
>>98177375It was a huge improvement over II and III, being lighter and generally more protective, but it was far from perfect. VI was already being designed for stealthily operations and they were striving to keep advancing their armor tech.
>>98178304I have shitloads of these things rattling around my bitz box I got in a bulk load, do people actually pay money for these old HH bits?
>>98177131>ruin mk2 and mk3 and cataphractii terminators>leave mk4 identicalfuck this gayass company
>>98178321A standard bolter can do none of those things as well as volkite can. A volkite is superior in all ways to the bolter, except it is more difficult to produce and difficult to maintain, meaning it cannot be made the standard issue weapon of the entire legiones astartes as was planned. >we got disintegrators to take their place as the deadly cool ray gun held back by inferior technology and production capability.Disintigrators are a poorly understood and highly dangerous WMD weapon from the dark age. Yes, theyre more deadly than volkite (even if theyre not in game), but theyre also prone to killing their user, existing in a similar space to "plasma guns" for why you cant make them the standard issue weapon.
>>98178366You must be legally blind.
>>98178366>redesign most armor>didn't plan farther ahead>do a quick shit job for the last 2 armors (mk4 & tartar)GW is very weird and retarded
>>98178328>VI was already being designed for stealthily operationsOutside of nuslop, it was always the next standard suit, not a specialist one.
>>98177375>If MkIV is so great, how come they were looking for replacements before the Heresy even started?>if the F35 is so great why are they still designing new planes
>>98178366Nahh, MKII has a scuffed helmet but the body is my favorite Slop Marine body they've ever made. A joy to paint because of all the panels. You can be lazy with it or you can really line each panel and it rocks. I've just started buying cheap MKII sprues/bodies from guys with Saturnine buyer's remorse and converting them into 40Gay Chaos Legionaries because they look better than the Legionaries box.
>>98178369>A standard bolter can do none of those things as well as volkite can.Next time, try reading some more before being a retard.
>>98178369In one of the interview articles posted on warhammer community people from the HH team said that the disintegrator rifles used during the HH have limiters on them, to make them evaporate the person pulling the trigger at least a little less often. But they also acknowledged it was done out of a game balance perspective, having infantry weaponry that can delete anything is impossible to make fair as anybody who has had the misfortune of having to play against 7e 40k eldar wraithguard will confirm
>>98178393Damn thats crazy, anyways why is one S4 ap5 while the other is S5 Ap5 with deflag?
>>98178370>oh no they changed the backpack how will I cooooooooope
>>98178373I don't even think nu-slop says anything about Mk VI being designed specifically for stealthy operations.
>>98178397>s anybody who has had the misfortune of having to play against 7e 40k eldar wraithguard will confirmStrength D flamers are totally fair, dont you love webway gate abuse via dark eldar allies?
>>98178366they still did the shitty backpacks with 4 different top vents for no reason, the shitty vents on every limb and the weird gut overhanging the pelvis with the belt just strung onto the side. Probably mark IV just needed the least doing to make it look as detailed as their marine ranges since it was always less janky.
>>98178411
>>98177131New FAQ for LI dropped. https://assets.warhammer-community.com/eng_08-06_legion_imperialis_rulebook_faqerrata-ur9zuiawno-rtl0i05xqm.pdfWon some arguments retroactively, lost some others. Glad to see they didn't make the bonehead choice here, however.
>>98178304Just use banestrike bolters.
>>98178403>why is one 30" S4 ap4>why is one 3" Blast>why is one S5 AP2 Shred>why is one 36" S4 AP5 Heavy 2 Rending, Pinning>why is one S4 AP3>why is one S4 AP5 Ignores CoverAll from the same bolter, while only way a volkite can do anything else is by switching the whole gun.
>>98178422Still doesn't out-right state the stealthy aspect was an intentional part of the design. Mk VI having a more stealthy profile could just be a by-product of it being more light weight and the more efficient power distribution. And I mean, you don't create specialised stealth equipment and then send it out for field testing to the fucking IW, never mind the sallies lol.
>>98178465>All from the same bolterBut it isnt. Those are not the same bolters.
>>98178584They are, just loaded with different bolts (possibly a scope).
here some Mk IV backpacks and jump packs, they are for emperor children, but they have blank versions, and as a bonus some mk VI in nu scale.https://gofile.io/d/G3kr7f
>>98178628Much appreciated anon, may your dice rolls be fortuitous.
>>98178404Is there a gap between the kneepad and the lower leg or is that just a darker shade of green?
I feel like as this board dies this general turns even more spitefully slow did you guys go to a discord or something
Close, but they changed some things in the final models
>>98178669this is a pseudo-historical wargame, why do you need constant stimulation
>>98178684I will forever be assblasted that GW redesigned nearly all marks and then barely touched mk4. What the fuck was the point.>those giant rivets on the knees and elbowsNot even trying anymore
>>98178649Gap, all the kneepads are separate from the shins other than on mk6 because mk6 is retarded
>>98178649gap + knees are not flush with the leg, they protrude slightly
>>98178736It was already perfect
>>98178755>>98178777I don't know why I asked, I don't care...
I bet the nu-MK4 assault marines would look fucking baller with MK7 jumppacks and red scorpion colours anyone able to try and do a photoshop with the MK7 jumppack?
>>98178780so was mk3 and they fucking ruined it
>>98178780It was already perfect...
Rate the old school/demi company inspired ultramarines mk4 force>praetor with power fist and boarding shield>20 tactical vets with combi bolters and heavy bolters>10 heavy support vets with missile launchers and heavy bolters>contemptor dreadnought (logisticial)>champion with jump pack>10 invictus suzerain>10 praetorian command with jump packs and twin lightning claws >phobos land raider (logisticae)>guilliman>5 indomitus command squad with storm shields and wrist mounted combi bolters (cata command squad rules)>proteus land raider >Forge lord >sicaran >predator with autocannon and heavy bolters >predator with quad lascannons>vindicator
>>98177330At least Blanche didn't suffer this indignity huh :(
>>98178833>posts the literal worst version of the mk4 helmetnext you'll pretend to like the pig snout mk7 helmets just to be contrarian
>>98178942>everything I don't like is mkvii
>>98178955takes a special type of retard to glean that from that post
>>98178833>>98177620Gimme the snoot
>>98177330Not AI, just a shitty artist fuckupNo other AI tells anywhere in the image and no way in hell GW's shitty modern artists could train a lora on brand new designs to be consistent enough for use like this
>>98178833glorious noot snootwhat a loss indeed
>>98178970even the trench crusade guys use "AI assists" for the artjust accept that james workshop is a corporate goliath trying to cut cornersyou don't literally need to leap to their defence over everything
>>98179023blind retards shouldn't be partaking in this hobby
>>98178736Rivets on elbows? They rather look like hinges to me. A subset of knee vents
>>98178937:(
>>98178479>lighter armour disfavoured by the siege chapter >stealthy profile favoured by the stealthy chapter Is that not out-right enough for you?
How does MkIV effect me, an Iron Hands enjoyer?
>>98177330Ouch.
>>98178915So, whats meant to be old school.demi compani inspired?
>>98179131You can finally do your shattered legion repair men shtick.
>>98179153Mainly, an army whose construction evokes this kind of feel, less hordes of troops and more of a tactical, smaller scale feel. Sticking with the old school structure of 2 tacs, 1 assault squad, 1 heavy squad, with "vets" (suzerains) and terminators supporting from the 1st company.
is no one going to complement my minis?
>>98177431Stop noticing!!
>>98177430Cool thanks, do you have the other marks as well? M4 specifically
>>98177512Yes nu-backpacks are awful across the board.
>>98177620You try to summon SW noot anon?
>>98179164>sharted legions>not Red TalonsSorry, no
>>98177672They are not, they are clearly mk6, hence why GW released the gauntlets for mk3 and mk4, so they do not fit with mk2.
>>98178317Very cool!
>>98179327what minis anon?
>>98179359>they are clearly mk6No they aren't, because mk6 arms are just mk4 arms without the vambrance. Completely different.
>>98179364Thank you.
>>98178391Post chaos models pls
>>98179373Yes they are. I will not elaborate further.
>>98177605the 17th is the best
Has HH gained more players than lost from 1.0-3.0? What’s the state of popularity for this game?
>>98179126Still doesn't say it was specifically designed to be stealthy otherwise IW wouldn't have had any from the get go, even the start mentions that is was more geared towards power efficiency, stealth would be mentioned there too.
>>98179092>Legio Solaria
Redpill me on the Sicaran. That upcoming box looks alright and I like Contemptors, but I've more or less always glazed over these things when the Kratos exists too.
>>98179898>stealthy profile >not explicit enough Are you fucking kidding me? On top of that, the IW had scouts and speeders and bikes and all the other shit all the other legions had.
>>98179949>always glazed over these things when the Kratos exists tooHave you considered to stop sucking cock and pick things because they're cool and not just because of the meta? I'm sure you find the room in your power budget between the 20 seekers and allied in tech priests to pick something a little below average for once.
>>98179990I mean I kind of liked the bigger tank in 2.0 as well from a design standpoint, and I do have a pair of Predator tanks as well.
>Go looking for old MKIV after announcement>Out of stock everywhereFuck me I guess. Even the catas were in stock for a few weeks after they got refreshed.
>>98180094I screamed it out last thread, I grabbed a box for $100, figured they would sell out quick. There were a TON of 10 packs on ebay for like $55-$60 as well.
What do packs of old Cataphractii go for now?
>>98179949Tac squad deleters
>>98179798We don’t exactly have numbers, anon. Any figure /tg/ comes up with would be either anecdotal or extrapolated off minimal information at best.
>>98177160Mr Pinchy for an event the other weekend, was a delight to run him even if I forgot half his rules. I took him with about 1200 pts of Skittarii Pilgrims
>>98180145I'd like to ask as well since I've got ten guys still on the sprue lying around.
>building a salamanders force, with a small contingent of blood angels to go with it>want to pick up a sicaran after I get a couple more infantry units painted>neither legion trait benefits it>revelation host makes taking it pretty free (assault squad takes logi benefit, and I get my slot for dawnbreakers anyways)>blood angels can also take triple illiastus assault cannons for a comical amount of shots>if it's a game where I am not bringing blood angels having a blood angels sicaran would be pretty stupid>similarly have a spartan and a land raider waiting to be painted, can't decide if one should be blood angels one salamanders, or both salamanders
>>98180324well no but no legion trait would benefit it because they don't work on vehicles
>>98179680Hey yo Captain Jack
>>98177662it saves space on the sprue, save material you need for the box(most expensive thing you seel), saves plastic. Who wouldn't limit the "wings" to only special characters ?
>>98178942After all the years it has NOT grown on me
>>98180423Wasn't talking about the wings, at all
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>>98179336>>98180448https://gofile.io/d/jpeHRT
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>>98180462End.>>98180458There is a point where I needed to stop and I have clearly passed it but let's keep going and see what happens.
>>98180466>There is a point where I needed to stop and I have clearly passed it but let's keep going and see what happens.Go on. Post the mk9 one. I dare you faggot. I double fucking dare you.
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>>98180538>MkVIIIIGodspeed you wonderful bastard
>>98180538>To this end, the MkVIIII remained slop.
>>98180466And thankfully this is where we are now currently in the lore, no other forms of armor have been made yet at all because mkVIII is perfect at the moment, as are the space marines who wear it themselves. I mean, how silly would it be if they tried to you know, make BETTER, "cooler and more EXTREMEEEEEEE" meme marines that are bigger, faster and "NOT YOUR DADDIES GAY ASS "FIRST BORN" TRASH MARINES!!!!!11111!!!", amirite...ha...haha....Thank the gods that shit like that NEVER. HAPPENED. END. OF. STORY. FULL STOP.
>>98180605>And thankfully this is where we are now currently in the lore, no other forms of armor have been made yet at all because mkVIII is perfect at the momentUrm, what about imperial pattern and artificer armor?
>>98180094Luckily I have perfect 3d proxies for the old MKIV (and for the whole heresy range before 2.0 too) so I'm all set, because I'd be pretty pissed if I had to reward GW for their shitty nustyle by giving them more money
>>98180610Artie Armour #2 there looks fucking awesome, id love to see a full kit of that in plastic/resin (old style with the split torso and power squat legs though), you can def see the judge dredd influence with the shoulder guards in it. Reminds me of OG Arbites armour, too.
>>98180611yeah, but they aren't in plastic.
>>98180617>id love to see a full kit of that in plastic/resin (old style with the split torso and power squat legs though)Me too. Based power squat enjoyer.My fav is AA 3, I like the thin legs and smoothness of it, no homo
>>98180610>imperial patternIt was retconned in 3.0 and no longer appears in the armour marks timeline in the rulebookNow it's just a techmarine variant like the rapier crew marines :/
>>98180660>It was retconned in 3.0 and no longer appears in the armour marks timeline in the rulebookI hate 3.0
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>>98178970AI isn’t used to generate final images wholesale dummy. It’s used to generate rough drafts that are then touched up by people. Which is what happened here most likely
>>98178964>>98180745>It’s used to generate rough drafts that are then touched up by people...Anon the rough draft is the miniature itself what the fuck are you talking about
>>98180745This is the weirdest cope yet.
>>98180722if primaris plate/mk.x...is not real(a reality i very much ascribe to)then can primaris plate simply be mk.iv (subpattern/artificer)? is there any need to be butthurt or aversive to that which doesn't exist?
is it not the sovereign right of HH to basically absorb everything that exists in 40k back into itself?
>>98178039From the cradle to the glaive.
the imperium was put into a state of indefinite mutilated stillbirth with the internment of the emperorhistory literally endedthen and theredoes all that apparently arise afterwards not have basis in the state that was reached prior to the great pause inflicted?
>>98180745Why not the opposite? Taking a rough draft (easy to do) and then asking the AI to polish it?Let's say I just copy paste the models in photoshop where I want them, and then I ask the AI to generate the terrain, background and lighting/effects?
>>98177586Marines are just that tough
>>98180764I can't wait for the castraferrum kit, middlehammer land speeder kit and the return of the razorback.Then go to the scouring, with a badab war expansion (characters and upgrade packs).
>>98180779as best i grasp a marine could wade through fucking magma for a short period in ceramite plate without too much for potential issueany much more than that is liable to start introducing big problems very quickly though
>>98180757>is there any need to be butthurt or aversive to that which doesn't exist?No. Which is why I don't hate primaris 24/7.
>>98180789here's the big question:could you fathom refashioning a suit of pr*maris plate into something more in line with an artificer mk.iv suit?
or do you actually hold primaris plate to exist in any light whatsoever that would prevent you from doing so?this is the ultimate purity test
because you seeif primaris plate doesn't existwhich it does notthen it is simply mk.iv permutation
the imperium does NOT pick itself up back out of its mortally wounded state EVERten thousand years and onward it would trudge forward in its awful state of half lifeprobably ends up hard vored by tyranids in the end with more besides the scythes of the emperor playing out the ultimate example in vindicating the creation of the astartes in their being annihilated by something worthy of the space marines having come about
the great tragedy being that unblemished space marine legions might actually have been capable of waging proper war against the space dinosaur bugs
>>98180813>if Leopard 2 didn't exist in WW2 then it is simply a Panzer V permutation
i hate bots, human or otherwisepost minis
>>98180853the leopard 2 never came to existit's panzers all the way down
Mods, a bot is broken and spamming the thread again!
>>98180861
I noticed that this recent DG character is actually based in the same MkIV suit of the new HH kit, look at the details
>>98180784>Marines, custodes and automita can move through the lava but they permanetlly reduce their save by 1 each turn they are in the lava, they then start testing wounds, no invuns at all.>Traitor marines that die toll 2D6 and revive as a lave daemon on a 12+> Traitor militia can run into the Lava to sacrafice themselves to roll on atable of buffs for allied units or to do things like drop astoroids on enemy units or revive as exsplosive lava zombies>Loyalists inspire their armys by sirviving the lava and get things like a charge bonus or becoming imune to morale
>>98180865kino siege of terra marine anon
i love the apex of the heresy as a great second wind of human achievement collapsing about itself in the most cataclysmic fashions possible and 40k as such existing as a perpetual twilight in which the grand edifice of human civilization slowly, over tens of thousands of years on end, dies out completely with the astartes serving as its last champions and cause of its damnation in tandem
rayge 'gainst 'dat dyin' o' dat' light mane fuggid
>>98180865It's not MK4 at all
>>98180865Nope, the DG plague marines are based on MKIII (or are meant to be anyways).
>>98180865If you're judging that based on the vanbrace and elbow, then sorry anon, it's just GW being lazy and doing two similar designs.
I want to build my own Mhara Gal, and base it off the Leviathan chassis to make it a bit more imposing. However, I have a question: what's a suitable tool for carving Colchisian symbols into the armour plates?
>>98180884Based
>>98181009>>98181035>>98181039It's a bad hybrid of mk3 and mk4, but the mk4 parts are all the same as in nuMk4.Also look at the feet.Clearly de same designer
>>98181046don't carve and use the Calth transfers :^)
>>98181046Scribing tools. On the gunpla side of scale modelling, they use them to create panel lines.
>>98178649>https://gofile.io/d/G3kr7fPlease give more loggyk. I beg you
>>98181073Nta, god I'm so fucking mad I didn't get Betrayal at Calth, I got into warhammer in 2017 and wanted to buy it to fill out the marine force I got with the 8th ed starter set. Also now that I think back to those days.... man I was so innocent when I was wondering why the marines I got didn't look like the ones in Dawn of War
>>98181046You could use a piece of heated wire
>>98180459>Mark VI being used by RG, AL and Siege loyalists I remember, fuck their retcon
>>98181064>the parts are the sameThere isn't a single part in common>same designerNo, because the guy who made the lord of poxes at least tried
>>98181127You're retarded if you think none of the traitor legions had scavenged Mk VI in their arsenal.
>>98181133Scavenged? SureHordes of Mk VI inductii? Fuck off
>>98181133All legions used all marks so anons can do whatever they want.But legions should have big preferences as to not dilute their identities. It's big rule that's secretly a guideline.
>>98181138Depends which legion you're going for.I can easily see Iron Warriors outfitting their Inductii with Mk VI>>98181150>But legions should have big preferences as to not dilute their identities. It's big rule that's secretly a guideline.A big rule that has no consequence besides the flavour the individual wants to go for, not to mention a lot of it is also dictated by whatever time period you want to go for.
>>98181129>There isn't a single part in commonAre you blind or a trolling contrarian?
>>98181150>But legions should have big preferences as to not dilute their identitiesFor the most part? No. This is how you end up with dumb shit like "white scars were a legion of nothing but bikers" and such retardation.
>>98181159If I tell you Blue Guys like big armor, and you make Blue Guys with no armor, it completely changes the way you approach it. That's a choice. Your Blue Guys are special, because despite being Blue Guys who normally like big armor, your guys use no armor.Now compare with Red Guys not having preferences. What does your choice of armor do?World Eaters love melee & chain weapons. Doesn't mean they all do that. But because their preference is melee & chain weapons, when you make a destroyer force or even a tank-heavy force, you have a lot of material to make them special.That's why legion preferences are important, because they give legions an identity which then transforms into potential/material for your force.
>>98181172I'm asking you what part is in common.
>>98181046An awl
>>98179357>>98179131Nta but some of the non-gorgon part of Mor's personal guard is in mkiv.
>>98181352Good shit. I have tacs in MkII and MkIII and some MkVI inductii, so these guys are going to be support squads. The MkII assault kit is better than the MkIV by a mile so I won’t be buying those lol
>>98180448>>98180458Thank you anon, you're the best
>>98179164Dumbest image in black books (yes that includes books 8 and 9).
>>98180610AMOGUS
>>98181491Why
>>98181518BROTHER INDUCTII VENTUS
>>98179131>how does the pinnacle of armour tech during the Great Crusade affect me, a guy who thinks my Legion is good at changing gaskets and fuck all else
>>98181560>a legion btfo at Istvaan and scattered with limited supplies has fewer suits of the most advanced armor (which was canonically shunted mostly to Horus’s allies)Yeah I don’t see it. MkIV would be a rarity amongst the Iron Hands.
>>98181542>be Iron Hand marine with obviously only a handful (no pun intended) cybernetics>your armour is damaged>instead of throwing it away and donning a whole new suit there, you patch the old one with parts of the new one, risking wasting both the suits in process. >also the suits are different marks with totally different structure and materials used but that doesn't bother FW
>>98181127When was this?
>>98177161>the cropped mk3 head I made for an edit with og helm is still being usedI didn’t know I would be part of a little meme’s birth.I have warmed up to the the nuMKIII after watching logh.Because Prussia and the pickelhaube.Hopefully an updated version of the previous mk3 comes out to make those who wanted that happy.
>>98181635A horrid, malformed attempt at it exists in the breacher kit. I’m just buying my MkIII heads from tortuga.
>>98181116are you looking for anything in particular?
>>98180459>It was reasoned that a warrior firing his weapon would most commonly present his right shoulder to enemy fireAh...that's the opposite of every model and image I know of though
>>98181712nta but Everything. If I had to pick I'd say mk2/mk3. 40k IW bits too
>>98177550I honestly can't see any difference.
Why do people complain about boring poses? The last thing I want are "dynamic" meme poses. It's just noise to me. They don't need to be stiff but don't need exaggeration either
>>98178736The point was to make them taller so marines don't look like midgets.
>>98181951At a glance:1) the rivet went from the corner close to the barrel to centered in the middle (rivet counting, traditional autism)2) they changed the hanguard (used to be a smaller hanguard under the bolter, now the hanguard is the full length3) they moved the switch/mag release to the front, probably because it was interfering with the weapon safety handBe happy you do not share my curse
>>98181956>dynamic meme posesUnfortunately we are stuck with the 5 same dynamic meme poses
>>98181956I think the “boring poses” would be more excusable if it was easier to mix and match armor Mks. Unless I’m mistaken and the connection points are somehow the same, it’d lame that mixing bits are kept to the arms and helmets while the torso and legs are stuck together (building them by the book)
>>98181983Anon I'm gonna be perfectly honest these changes are so tiny I can't really care even if they are unnecessary.
>>98182046You don't have to be upset over tiny changes.I am remarking that GW spends time doing these tiny changes and I wonder why.
>>98182061As a 3d artist my best guess is that the concept art people did whatever the fuck they wanted and we have to follow their designs. Concept art tends to not pay attention and change details because they simply don't remember or don't take reference and they make stuff up as they feel.
>>98182046I think the handguard change is pretty noticeable, but the rest are quite small details that are easy to miss, and I don't think will bother basically anyone
>>98182073Seeing the state of current GW concept artists, yeah. Sounds about right.
>>98182111I'm wondering what boltgun pattern they'll give to mk5. So far they've given a different one to every mark except mk2, which still gets a different looking phobos pattern with scopes that looks straight out from the 3rd edition codex cover.
>>98181983That mag release is triggering my /k/ autism. It should be close to either the index finger or the thumb. The first version got it right. You should be able to operate it with your shooting hand so you can handle the mags with the other.reeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>98182141>I'm wondering what boltgun pattern they'll give to mk5.Primaris Bolt Rifles
>>98182141>mk5 bolter?Looking back, mk2 & mk3 had phobos. Numk2 & numk3 had nuphobos with unique versions.Mk6 had umbra. Nu mk6? Nu-umbra. Tigris. Tigris.What did Mk5 have? Umbra? There's a good chance they'll be getting Umbra, and possibly a slightly different version.
>>98182141mkV is usually paired with Umbra pattern bolters, like mkVI, no? maybe they'll get Umbra pattern with scopes. if we ever get mkV...
If we don't have numk5 because of the stud issue, it's easy, they should have the studs separate.
>>98181992>>98182011Sure give me more poses, just don't want overly dramatic ones. I want toy soldiers not a display pieces
Which legion has the most fun legion tactica?
>>98182141>what boltgun they’ll give to MkVGodwyn
>>98182304Depends on your definition of fun.
>>98182297>power squat>kneeling>running/charging>standing tall/at easeWhat else is even needed?
>>98182409I'm fine with 5 poses by the way, sure more variety is always nicer.The problem is that when people ask for "I wish the poses were more dynamic" is a reminder that you should be careful with what you wish for
>>98182420I see a lot of people asking for different poses but not much for "dynamic" ones. Hell I see more people asking for the fucking torso & legs to be split than asking for different poses.
>>98179359>They are not, they are clearly mk6No, the elbow is more like, but not exactly like MkII. I think it looks okay on MkVI because it's like the arm has been reinforced for carrying heavier weight or adding more punch.But for MkII it just looks lesser, like they forgot to finish putting their armour on.MkIII and MkIV have the vambrace covers to hide the shame.I suspect with some tweaking the MkIV vambraces can be turned into half MkII style covers to help improve the situation a little.
>>98179910>Legio Solero
Speaking of armor agnostic arms, why did GW make 2 designs of those? The melee ones aren't the same as the heavy weapons
For champions: combi melta or the serpenta?
>>98182717Forsake GWs retardation and give them a power fist. The slender blade and brutal fist together just look the best.
>>98182727No, thats retarded on all levels. Anyone who ran their champion with the paragon blade and thunder hammer should be shot. "only one specific combi weapon or one specific pistol" is stupid and dumb, but its infinitely less gay than that waac shit.
>>98181930Done check the link
>>98182305Actually not a bad idea though I supposed they'll leave that one for the eventual scouring mk7. They could rescue the 2ed pattern that I don't remember if they canonified at some point.
>>98182788Unfathomably based
>>98182802>rescue the 2ed pattern that I don't remember if they canonified at some pointIsn't that just umbra?
>>98182802I assumed the classic boltgun pattern was recycled into nuphobos.
>>98183010>mmmnnnnyyyyykindish‽
>>98183123it's gun
>>98183027Phobos is the RT design. The 2ed design is a bit simpler but I can't remember if they gave it a proper name.
>>98183123Looks a lot like nu-phobos I think, stock aside.
>>98183133For some reason I remember the godwyn pattern being called ultima pattern for a while.
>>98183147well sort of but it's far enough off too; not to be a rivet counter but, wrong number of rivets, single speed hole, no grip under the barrel, ejection port on the flipside, extends much further back after the grip even without the stockit's not the same, though it's doubtless related more closely than the umbra, tigrus or godwynlooks kind of like the Jove to be honest
>>98183182the Ultra/Ultima/Godwyn/MkIII are all very similar
>>98183218Hopefully numk7 will have that, I like the clean look & little stock, it's cute.
Do rivet counters like counting rivets, or are they compelled to it against their will? Nurgle has those kinds of daemons.
>>98183182>>98183231Because they're different designation systems of the same thing.>Ultima"latest" or maybe a reference to being first produced in Ultramar>Godwynthe tech priest responsible for the pattern>mkIVthe generation, it came after phobos, umbra, and tigris
>>98181046a small dremel is probably the best tool
>>98183123Pretty sure it's identified as Mars pattern in some old publication. Alternatively MkIII Crusade pattern.
>>98183235I plan to file off the rivets in the articulations of the new mkIV, so it looks closer to the old design.So yes.
I think the closest we got to 2e bolter right now is the SoB bolter.
>>98183352Bullshit. Any trained artist is drilled on properly drawing hands. It's the kind of thing you practice over and over.
>>98183328God I hate w*rd b*arers
>>98183352Would be funny if the (facebook?) post was automated and written by AI too.
>>98183352Would love to get my hands on the master copy of the box art. I'm positive some noise analysis can help determine if it was AI or not
>>98183428You know the shitty gacha HH videogame? In all the years it has been online not even once I've seen this mistake, and the art of that game is as low cost as you can imagine. Same for the old Visions art originally made for a card game.This is 100% a machine error. I'd need to see the PSD myself to believe otherwise
>>98183352I have never in my life heard about professional artists doing hands with too many fingers by accident.
>>98183352can you imagine what it must be like to have genuine polydactyly today
Will they replace the art before the combat force though?
>>98183428>>98183463This is what GW human error looks like
>>98183468If anything, it's the opposite. People used to drawn animals and cartoons tend to forget about humans having more fingers
>>98183317oh but that's MkIII Crusade and not MkIII
>>98183352I think the artist probably used AI as part of the process, without GW's consent, and now he's desperately claiming that he didn't to keep his job.
>>98183463Like >>98183372 said, any decent artist worth their salt can do ok-ish hands at the very least. It somehow reads like two hands overlapping. If you ignore the pinky it looks like a normal, grip handling, hand. If you ignore the index finger, if looks like a normal hand. To be fair, it's not the first time James fucks up something by forgetting to hide a layer in PS. If you look at he minis gallery for the Salamanders in the Liber Astartes you'll see that one guy has 3 legs because they forgot to hide the old mkiii picture that was in the 2.0 version. Literally a nu-mkiii with an extra leg that looks very much like the old mkiii kit
>>98183352How tf one draws a finger on a photo of a mini and why? Especially since it's not a photobash of different arms and bolters, it's this exact mini.
>>98183468>>98183483These are photobashed and then painted over. A misplaced layer is pretty common in photobashes.
The 6th finger is one thing. The tiny fucking shield trinket is a crime.
>>98183496Mark III of what pattern, though?
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>>98183536Bc they probably use AI over a base image made with the posed 3d models to add the general asthetic, maybe the colors or to scale it up. You can tell the AI to keep it as close as possible to the base image but it's bound to fuck up some times and the people doing this probably couldn't be bothered to check
>>98183573How they didn't notice it tho, It's so obvious?Feels like they rushed the stealth drop. No leaks, FATrak didn't say anything.
>>98183589>how didn't they noticeBecause they don't care. I don't mean that in an edgy emo way, I mean that the quality control guy(s) looked at the image and didn't see anything wrong, he scanned the image with his eyes and nothing clicked in his head.Us? We're autistic about details, we are calibrated to see it. We do it for free.
>>98183540Also this, not only it's smaller it also moved to the back of the grip. For a human made error it makes zero sense.
>>98183506 (me)>>98183589>>98183608They don't fucking care, to either check or to learn how to use their tools>picrel, what I was talking about. They copy pasted the miniature gallery from 2.0 and overlayed a nu-mkiii mini on top
>>98183642>overlayedI have no idea why would you use overlays of the same mini desu.Like not only it makes more sense to use one photo of the mini it is also easier.You'd have to go extra mile to add a sixth finger and mess with the shield trinket and that layer would be sticking out in other places (like on your pic).Too much mental gymnastics when the most sensible guess would be "some intern using AI".
>>98183642I forgot about that kek, what a fucking joke
>>98183663My point is that James is no stranger to fucking up in photoshop. Doesn't matter if AI was used or not. In the case of that box art, I wasn't thinking about someone manually overlaying the hands. It doesn't make much sense considering the rest of the picture is practically a 1:1 of the mini. More like the AI "saw" both the firing grip and a normal grip and got confused. The space in between the "first" index finger and the "second" index finger has that eerie feeling of AI smoothness too.
Have been pretty happy with Wartablegames, really want a knight Atrapos. Anyone have experience ordering knights or titans from them? Most of the reviews look good but I know sometimes their shit is fucked up.
>>98183663>>98183686If it's just an edited photo, then why are all the lines weird? if you look at the magazine well that's not parallel to the mag or ejection port, or the 3 little ports on the collar being weird.Doesn't photoshop have an AI assistant too now?
>>98183707Yes. They cram AI into anything they possibly can to justify the staggering investment cost.
>>98183707Indeed. I think is meant for localized fixes or additions. So something that could have happened was that the artist was resizing and adding the fx and, in the process screwed up the fingers with the assistant
>>98183686I just find it funny how GW are doubling down on it not being AI instead of just saying some cunt indeed used AI and it won't happen again. It's obviously AI, no way a living human being made this kind of a mistake in this specific case.But izzat has to be protected I guess.
>>98183725>no way a living human being made this kind of a mistake in this specific caseShould I remind you of the upside down space wolves bolters?
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>>98183728Apples and oranges.
>>98180854sorry painter anon, the autist who dont paint or play are arguing about box art again. Always nice to see your work bro, keep it up!
>>98183728>>98183734It's okay, I fixed it
>>98183735Yeah both are fruits.
>>98183725They are fleeing forward, that's what I think>>98183728I blame that one on James needs to hire a fucking firearms consultant because their artists don't know shit
>>98183734The Prosperonian mind cannot comprehend.
>>98183748You don't need to be a weapons expert to notice every single bolter having the iron sights on the top and that one being on the bottom for no reason.
>>98183763anon, I'm 99% sure the sculptors have not handled a firearm in their life. Not even an airsoft replica. And can't tell you what features a rifle-like-thing like a bolter is supposed to have and where in order to make a modicum of sense. If they don't know what iron sights are, even less likely that they know that 1) the little bump in the top is supposed to represent them and 2) what they are for and where makes sense to place them
>>98183794To further my point. They have attached the sling swivel to the iron sights a couple times at least
>>981797983.0 hasn't killed the game by any means, many groups seem to enjoy it, or so they say.But from personal experience I can definitely say that it killed a fair amount of gaming groups.
>>98183813That's fine.
>>98183852I can only speak from personal experience, but at my LGS that has regular and organized game nights the models all sell well barring the recent Custode release. Though Auxilla and Admech collect dust too, this is a Marine game through and through. I imagine the Mk4 refresh is gonna do quite well all things considered.
>>98183852My local group was dead halfway through 2.0, 3.0 simply didn't revive it.
>>98183352uh-huh
>>98183707your phone camera has AI assist nowthe things you think you remember didn't even happen that way, the light was not like that, the view was not like that
>>98183133I got some 10ish umbra ferrox bolters. What are those used for? Something special or just a little fancier regular umbra?
>>98184143Mine doesn't, it's over 7 years old.
>>98178309And the AI be of doing it cheaper saar
>>98177160Hi my dude. I am working on a transport for your mates elite warriors
>>98184158>What are those used forSeekers
>>98183560you know what? I'm thinking it's time for a new onePhaeton MKIII bolter
>>98183663because the page template is already set up, so you only need to add the new asset, scale it correctly, position it and set the old layer to hiddenthere's probably 40+ layers in that one image, it's normal to fuck up occasionally
>>98184174good god no, it's only quicker now, every company that's adopted AI is bitching about how the only tier of plan that's worth it is the top tier and even those are extremely limitedshit's fucked, yo
>>98184176saar is the land raider the best place to cure jerky?
>>98177160Cant remember if I already posted them, but destroyers. Bought the MKII bodies shortly before the MK4 release, still not sure if I would rather have made them MK4. The bulkier chest armor kinda fits the "hazard trooper" thing I guess.
>>98184015Yeah pretty much. No clue people want to rewrite history to make 2.0 incredibly popular just because those same 5 people at every lgs bought 20 aod boxes
An edit I did of someones game since the pic looked cool.
Is the brass scorpion actually worth it? Heavy makes me feel like its too slow, and its damage honestly doesent seem that good.
>>98184473Kino
>>98184119Needs more fingers
>>98184143I think I remember how many fingers my friends have
>>98184203You cannot cure jerky. It is beyond our help.
>>98184601all is lost.....
>>98184596most people don't even notice genuine polydactyly, it's like 1:1000 people at the outside
>>98184510>guys is the scoring marine deleter 5000 worth it? i heard it only deletes marines and tanksyou know why it has Malefic? so you can't just join your characters to it and tank wounds
>feeling out how low my proonter can go with what resin is left in the vat doing one servo-automata at a timefun and enlightening, the cutoff for refusing to run by virtue of there being little to work with seems pretty deep
>>98184510Its crazy good, took it to a event the other weekend. Its guns are legit, it can be buffed by Hex Magos and repaired as well, plus it has eternal warrior as well.Its biggest weakness is if it gets charged by WS5 units that can mulch T8 targets and you haven't buffed it with your magos to have WS5 instead of WS4.
>>98183481The experimental combi-missile launcher
>>98181840really bizarre, maybe a typo?
>>98182665yeah, the melee arms have the hoop across the inner elbow joint, like mk2-3, but without the strap running over it, while the special and heavy weapons arms just have the ribbed soft joint stuff that mk4 and later have
>>98177369I remember reading about the development of Titanicus, and how initially it was going to be a Forge World product (before Blood Bowl sold super well and gave GW the confidence to do more specialist game releases in plastic). The people working on it talked about how they knew that the kits (especially the big ones like the Warlords) were going to be extremely expensive, so they wanted to focus on smaller numbers of minis on the table. The smaller scale focus meant that the stakes were higher and they could work to make sure that the loss of each model was "cinematic".Seeing shit like this, where one titandeath causes a chain reaction that turns half the field into smoking craters and swings the entire outcome of the battle, is one of the things I really like about AT.>>98179268If GW did a MTO release of this image as a box set what do you think it would cost?
>>98184952Your shit rules.
>>98184732>>guys is the scoring marine deleter 5000But it isnt. Especially not for the cost. It has a heavy flamer and a battle cannon and a bunch of AP4 pinning(1) shooting. None of it is super long ranged. Andf if all you want is an Ap3 pieplate I feel like admech has you covered already. >cant join charactershetereodox get malefic>>98184952The durability seems like the biggest strength of it. Basically immune to lascannons and other "small" AT
>>98185600>AP4you might want to look closer at those profiles anon>heterodoxyeah, but you're being forced to make a choice
>>98184143>my phone cameraI only have a phone because people forgot how to use emails.I don't want to be available to you 24/7 because you can't wait. You don't need to hear my distorted voice. We do not need to speak over each other because we lack most context cues. Send me a fucking email.
People get too hung up on units that can't run or have a low movement value. HH missions are about objectives. Most of those will be placed in no man's land, worst case scenario you get to place half yourself. People can't decide to just not go for them, and keep sitting in the back of their own deployment zone. Not to mention enemy melee units that also will be coming towards you. If you put in a little thought you can move your slower melee units towards and area of the battlefield that the opponent has or wants to go to, and still get an easy turn 2 charge. I've even gotten foot slogging saturnine command terminators into combat regularly that way, and those assholes only got move 5. You just gotta think ahead a little. TLDR: the time of having to be able to get to the backline of the enemy deployment zone to be able to melee is long behind us, leave that mindset in 1.0 where it belongs.
>>98185698good for you, just don't store your images online (AI assist is coming to fix them) or on your computer (AI assist is coming to fix them), hope you like AI (it's coming to fix you), things are only marginally more expensive in return for being worse now
>>98185829>All the knowledge accumulated over decades, centuries, millenia, all of it was touched by the Acogito-Plague. Warped and perverted. The techno illness drove across worlds, data-slate by data-slate, data-vault by data-vault.>Only a handful of solar cycles sufficed. The greatest loss of knowledge mankind had known.>Now we search and seek, for the few morcels of our long lost past savances that escaped the illness by the hands of circumstances and the lone paranoids who forsaw this sad cataclysm.
>>98184473>custom alchem hand flamersnoice
>>98184732>scoring marine deleterThat's got to be the shittiest argument for the brass scorpion. Take your pick for expedient marine killer and you can find something to kill 10 tacticals at melee or range for a third the cost and be better at scoring. A kratos will do it for half the cost and be tanky enough that it's barely worth trying to kill.
>>98177131has nobody uploaded the custodes book yet?
>>98185587Cheers anon!>>98184952Yeah pair it with a repairing magos and its a fkn rock bro
>>98184952Is that an admech nausicaa bug?
>>98186304are those RG deliverers?
>>98184253was it hard to get the skull heads to fit?
>>98184176Very nice much grisly
>>98185674>you might want to look closer at those profiles anonWhat? The scorpion cannon and flamer are ap4, the hellmaw or whatever its called is a battle cannon (ap3 5" pieplate).
>>98186657Nope. You probably cant turn them every which way, but they slot in just fine without any effort. The raptor helmets were a bit of a pain when I did my raptors, but theyre quite a bit bigger. >>98185922I can ask how the guy did it if you want.
>>98186187They have.
>>98186824Good, what bodies did you use for your raptors?
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>>98187051MK2 assault marines, same as for the destroyers.
