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Asked in the last thread but this one was posted about 3 seconds after I made my post.
I painted a mini for the first time, it was a spare body I had just to see how it turned out and I did sort of half ass it but I have 2 specific questions after doing it.
1. How do I avoid colors like the brown being overly matte? I'm assuming I just didn't thin it enough, and it might just be how that specific color of brown looks. The only parts I didn't do a second coat on were the front straps.
2. Since I wasn't really satisfied with how the helmet, pants, boots and I guess the web gear turned out how can I give stuff painted black depth? I was thinking about just not painting the stuff that would be leather since the primer is black but that probably wont work if I need to do touch ups. I was thinking that I could try doing a very thin drybrush coat with grey to give it some depth, and then a wash with agrax earthshade add detail to the color its next to like the grey of the coat.

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I'm gonna paint my termies after i finish painting the world eaters combat patrol list.

>>98185236
Washes are the trick, and highlights.
If you paint your black parts not black, but dark grey, you can shade them with actual black, and highlight with a Lighter tone,

I just tried using some liquitex pyrrole red ink on my mini and holy shit it's the reddest red I've ever used.

>>98185324
Enjoy not using paints with a bunch of white/black added to make them opaque.

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Reposting the chamfrons from the previous thread. The small gap between the side plates and the headpiece bothers me. Need to think of a different shape for the frontal piece.

>>98185298
Awesome. Im hoping the agrax earthshade will look nice. I also saw a highlight trick where you just use a damp toothpick to do the edge highlights instead of using a brush which will probably help since I have hand tremors.
I only have the grey I used for the greatcoat but I will try and use it how you said. Hope it turns out good.
I'm going to try a couple different techniques for painting minis since I've got like 18 including 2 sentinels I can dick around with in terms of painting. I'm probably going to try using a makeup sponge on one of the sentinels.

>>98185419
>>How to Paint with Tremors
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqp76vAJu9g [Embed]

>>98185419
>since I have hand tremors
get a vise. don't let luddites stop you from using this trick that everyone else knows.

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>>98183967
Probably, yeah, two samurai with visible ABS and fox girl between them. Also posted them as part of "summary collage" in December.

>>98185654
A vice isn’t going to stop the tremor in your hand holding the paint brush..

>>98185419
>since I have hand tremors
tried cbd for your paint sessions?

>>98185741
NTA, but it'll free up your left so you can use it to stabilize your right.

>>98185324
Yeah what til you AB it
And yes it does slightly come off so varnish helps

>>98185741
we went over this 2 or 3 threads ago

>>98185654
Are you putting the brush in a vice?

>>98185813
yes, you move the model around to paint

>>98185813
>>98185821
>inb4 anon starts CNC painting

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There are some sick colours in gouache paints (not acrylic gouache)

I still have to test if mixing them with acrylic medium/varnish to see if they become waterproof.

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>>98185821
Shit, that brought back a childhood memory of painting Easter eggs. You think I could do this with a mini?

>>98185691
Oh hell yeah, these are great! Thanks anon, was worried you wouldn't see my post after the thread change but you went the extra mile!

>>98185852
You may be onto something, let us know the results.

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Thought I'd finish her tonight, but not quite.

>>98185777
see >>98185513
>>98185809
yah and you got outed as a retard so stop spreading your useless ideas

>>98185925
Blue objects with yellow light shining on them dont look green. (talking about her hair)
Youre confusing pigment mixing and light mixing.

Apparently AK wet palette is essentially a wipe and paper, since it lacks the sponge. What is actually more important here - sponge or paper? I mean, I can always just buy paper itself for lower cost.

>>98186053
Anon what the fuck are you talking about.

>>98186053
Who tf cares if its a wipe or a sponge, you just need something that holds water.
Hell you can make a homemade wet palette with paper towels and baking parchment

>>98186053
Baking paper and wet kitchen paper or a sponge is all what a wet palette is. Buying one is erguous hobby tax on a container lmao

>>98186131
Shut the fuck up.

Sperg hours lets gooooooooooooooooo

>>98186139
>picture of a wall clock with 'sperg' at every one of the 12 hour positions
>labelled "/wip/"
Look at the time, anons!

>>98186131
>>98186121
Point is, I was using baking paper with a sponge so far and it always only slows down drying - after 10-15 minutes it still form dried layer on paper itself. Meanwhile people showing their painting process have their palettes staying wet all the time. I'm trying to figure out what makes those "dedicated" paper sheets better.

>>98186150
It's mostly a combination of a good sponge/wipe (it's the same thing) and hydrophobic paper. Contrary to sperg belief, both of these things are made for wet palettes, they are not something rebranded. A good wet palette will last many hours, even days in the fridge with lid closed, all the while keeping your paints fresh.

You can definitely make your own wet palette, but I have yet to see a homemade one with the same performance and properties as the ones you can buy.

>>98186163
>hydrophobic
This part confuses me a it. It's supposed to allow moisture to pass from sponge to paint, yet it also have to hold itself in shape while being constantly in contact with water. Baking paper (at least the one sold in my country) is always coated on both sides with silicone so it will definitely be hydrophobic and yet paint will dry on it. At the same time, so called "sandwich paper" is not coated at all and simply dissolve and break when placed on sponge. So it's really mainly about paper, huh?

I don't have free space in fridge to store wet palette so I simply throw away paper after session, squeeze sponge and clean the box. Hence my idea to figure out what I need as cheap but also working replacement.

>>98186171
it needs to be slightly porous at the same time, wich silicon coated paper may not be
there's waxed baking paper that works but honetsly actual wet palette paper is not that expensive, get the biggest you can find and cut it to size, you don't need to cover the whole sponge if you are not going to cover the whole paper with paint

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slowly working through my quar
maybe finishing this month

>>98186197
>actual wet palette paper
Is just unwaxed baking paper.

>>98186206
[citation needed]

>>98186212
no u

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I bought a 15m roll of greaseproof paper for maybe £2 years ago and it works great. Some paints dry out over time and some overhydrate, but most keep for long enough.

>>98186131
I hate that I can't find unwaxed baking paper anywhere, the only ones in store are always waxed

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Made a glaze with one of the Vallejo Nocturna purples and by mixing in some of my base colors. It's really a lovely set if you are a purple fan.

>>98186235
I have been eyeing that set for a while but im still not sure.
I have been trying to get a saturated as fuck purple paint but honestly I havent found any outside contrast-like paints.

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painting for the new edition

>>98186291
looking good, but those cables or what on the helm bother me
also related to this model:
everything has to be standing on these gay rocks, huh? I got a terminator captain that's standing on a slain tyranid... I imagine he carries that corpse around everywhere then? ridiculous
I'll have to replace it with something, somehow

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I dont think the magma underneath pops enough. Itll do for a game tomorrow but im open to any suggestions?

>>98186268
Have you tried Pro Acryl's Royal Purple?

>>98186230
What do you mean by unwaxed paper?
you can't find paper without a wax/silicone coating?
have you tried a stationary shop?

unless by unwaxed you mean specifically silicone coated. This should be easily found in near any supermarket. Barely anyone uses waxed baking paper anymore because you don't want all the melted wax residue and/or smoke in your oven/baked goods.

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>>98186311
i don't mind the tactical rocks but i don't like it when there's specific factions on the rock

>>98186311
replace the tyranid with a gay rock

>>98186327
>Have you tried Pro Acryl's Royal Purple?
Not quite what I have in mind.
Also PA isnt readily available where I live and the VMC Royal purple is really similar.

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Man, I feel like the colors don’t match or some shit

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Printed out some weirdo astronauts without a scheme in mind. How do you come up with color schemes?

>>98186291
Looks nice. If you base it with some green grass that's the whole rainbow

>>98186515
Good place to start is to think of a single dominant colour. Then you pick one that you think will look good with that, and add a dash of another for some variety, rest neutrals.

>>98186484
Which colors? It's all green.

>>98186515
I collect cards from a bunch of TCGs. The art makes for great references. If you're interested, these might be helpful
https://scryfall.com/ (Magic the Gathering)
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Yugipedia (Yu-Gi-Oh)
https://en.cf-vanguard.com/cardlist/ (Cardfight Vanguard, a Japanese TCG that drew a lot of its initial inspiration from Yu-Gi-Oh)
https://wixoss.fandom.com/wiki/WIXOSS_Wiki (Another Japanese TCG about magical girls)
https://codex-of-the-damned.org/en/best-cards/index.html (Vampire the Masquerade CCG, great if you want more moody and dark color schemes)
https://cardvault.fabtcg.com/ (Flesh and Blood, a TCG with a kitchen sink setting in some ways similar to Magic)

>>98186515
Steal it. Find an object, game, website, whatever that has a cool color scheme and copy it.

>>98186553
the green water and the green on the rock

>>98186568
The green on the rocks is slightly more towards the blue and the water more towards the yellow end of the spectrum, but it looks fine to me.

While I still didn't figure out the chamfron issue, I thought about the pieces of neck armour for the horses. From what I've seen, western horse barding nearly always emphasized protecting the spine. As these will be fantasy miniatures, I can deviate from that. What do you think of using insulation sheet for making this piece of armour?

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>>98186594

... And the picture of course.

>>98186599
Doesn't really look like armor. Not exactly spear or arrow resistant either.

>>98186619

Fair enough, you could say it's a splint on top of padding, but that's a stretch.

>>98186163
What’s the best store bought one then

Airbrush noob here - my airbrush is "sputtering". The airflow is completely fine when holding down the button, but when I pull it back, it shoots for a bit then starts to "sputter". I've cleaned the inside, cleaned the nozzle, cleaned the needle, etc.

PSI is around 25.

>>98186766
pretty much doing this (but faster)

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/g83C4PiHR4Y

>>98186766
>>98186769
also if I backflow, it's extremely bubbly, don't remember it doing that before (I only used it like 2 times before).

>>98186765
I like the AK one. It's pretty cheap and it just werks. The lid is sometimes a bit bent, but you can straighten it up.

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What kind of paint rack do you use? I'm 3d printing a rack for my setup and I need to decide what style I want. I was going to try picrel but the only thing that worries me is that the label isn't easily visible.

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>>98186789
there's also picrel, which of course makes it easy to see the labels but is also less compact. Then there are the designs with two rows of paints which are a sort of compromise.

>>98186789
Wouldn't worry about label visibility. If you use them to any degree you'll recognize where they go by spacial awareness and color appearance. By that point, the name is arbitrary

>A Macragge Blue by any other name would smell as sweet
- Shakespear, probably

I carry mine around so I use an essential oils organizer which is basically just a paint suitcase you can zip closed

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>>98186789
>What kind of paint rack do you use?
My wife got me these nice MDF paint racks one year for Christmas. They hold Citadel pots really well. The only problem is that I sit up tall enough that I can't read the labels on the bottles because of the angle, so in a lot of cases, it's based on memory of frequently used pots or trial-and-error.

It's a lot more economic space-wise than my previous solution.

>>98186789
But you can see the colour? My paint bottles don't even have labels.

>>98186765
Army painter we pallette is solid if you move around. It also has brush space. The place I live didn't have nice paper and after getting frustrated with self-made ones I just bought the AP one. World of difference. The people who say you can just make your own happen to have access to paper that actually works right and doesn't just constantly curl or clog up. Not worth the time and petrol it takes to drive somewhere or test each of the different papers you can get, after the third brand had some issue I just went store bought

>>98186786
Didn’t know they made one, how’s the size? Big thing that’s been pushing me into buying an official one is that the homemade one I have right now out of a to go container is so cramped

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>>98186789
MDF ones currently, but I plan to switch to yours soon. Exactly because of >>98186818 said.

>>98186844
The sponge is roughly 15cm x 21cm, with the container being slightly bigger.

>>98186843
>Army painter we pallette is solid
AP is not even a wet palette functionality-wise.

>>98186843
Yeah they’re also so cheap. If it sucks or there’s no difference I just shoot it back to Amazon. I get wanting to be self sufficient it people are weirdly stubborn about things in this hobby

>>98186895
>AP is not even a wet palette functionality-wise.
What do you even mean

>>98186843
What place in africa is it, where you can't just order parchment paper from amazon? Its not like this is some super special thing. Its literally just parchment paper.

thinking about buying a ball mill and grinding my own white pigment just so I don't have to deal with chunky fucking whites anymore

I've just been dipping my brush in water, wiping off the excess, dipping it in the pot then wiping off the excess and it just works palettes are a scam

>>98186931
There are two functions of a wet palette: to 1) keep your paint fresh over long painting sessions (overnight and longer, if you store it in the fridge), and 2) to provide kinda moist-but-not-too-much environment (while keeping most of the water out) to mix your paints effectively and accurately.

Since AP are bunch of faggots, they use the absolute worst bottom of the barrel garbage for nearly everything; their rattle cans and wet palette are a prime example of this. The paper they use is literally the cheapest baking paper available, which results in the paper getting soaking wet nearly immediately, not getting moist, but just letting the water through (and a lot of paint onto the sponge). Which is why people with AP palette are not getting the usual effect you can see with a normal wet palette, i.e.: the paint is not beading when thinned, and why you don't even have to thin your paint that much (or at all, in some cases). Worse yet, the paper has a tendency to shed particles into the paint over prolonged sessions, which can result in messy paint jobs.

And then there's the fact that AP one is more expensive than AK wet palette.

>>98186979
Huh I had always seen people really like the AP one. First I’d heard of it having issues

>>98186999
Don't get me wrong here, you can definitely use it. But 1) it won't do half of the things wet palette is supposed to, and 2) it will teach you some bad habits that will bite you in the ass if you ever decide to upgrade. I fell for that meme when I started too (just like I have four AP rattlecans I sincerely have no idea what to use for).
Now I'm using the AK one, and it is a day-night difference, especially when it comes to keeping your paints fresh overnight (in the fridge). AP one would never. It's also nice to have complete control over mixing/thinning, since it doesn't leak.
And finally, if you gently clean them, the sponges last a lot longer.

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>>98186812
I like my paint box. My daughter even drew some terrain for it

>>98186999
People like it because they never used any other wet palette. Reddit is a peak example of this.
checked.

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Hooves and some cleanup left to do but I'm really tempted to just call it done.

>>98187038
>keeping paints fresh overnight in the fridge
I feel like I’m using wet palettes different than other people. I’ve literally never tried to use paint for more than one session. Putting it in the fridge and using it the next day is insane to me

>>98187107
Well, with a good wet palette, you can do that. You can even go multiple days, but you need one with a tight lid. It's also a good idea to use distilled water if you are planning to do so.

>>98187074
Soul

Starting to believe the anon who said there’s some anti-AP autist who just lurks here waiting to shit on AP whenever the chance arises. Watched like 20 videos on wet palettes before I bought and tried some out and not a one had much negative to say about the AP one outside of the normal one being a little small.

>>98187246
you better believe it.

>>98187107
It depends on your location. I can keep paint fresh outside the fridge in my wet palette also. At least for 1-2 days. More is hardly ever needed anyway.

>>98187246
That's me. I shit exclusively on their wet palette, rattle cans, and I occasionally point out the flaws of their main range. I also made that chart showing some of their paints dissolving when in contact with white spirit/enamels/oils. I do this because these things suck, are rarely known, and because I also fell for their marketing and wasted money on these things. My sperging comes from experience, and by comparing AP stuff to AK or other companies I have stuff from.
I have yet to see someone actually prove me wrong other than "ur anti-AP shill".

On the other hand, I think that AP acrylic washes are pretty great, and I like some of the colors from Blanche sets.

>>98186340
Every supermarket around me have silicone in their baking paper, so it doesn't work great for a wet palette. And I don't have any stationary shop around.

>>98187337
If only we had a digital interconnected network that made it possible to communicate and shop with localities other than our own.

>>98187324
Not discounting your experience but a lot of issues people have with wet palettes is user error. When the rest of the world is saying “this is one of the better wet palettes on the market” I’m gonna be a little skeptical

>>98187372
>rest of the world
I would argue that paid youtubers are not really a rest of the world. But it's your money, do whatever you want.

>>98187398
>every single person putting a video on Youtube was paid off by big AP
Okay AP schizo

>>98187453
nta, I don't know why you gotta be an arse about this, dude brought up valid points and explanation while you just barfed up something
>When the rest of the world is saying “this is one of the better wet palettes on the market”
this is pretty much meaningless(and a baseless claim too), every single big brand in any business/hobby is pushed by people

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>ordered from minis from dark sword miniatures
>tons of awesome hand sculpted metal minis
>they even threw in a free mini with my order
Yes I am shilling.

Anyways, I can't decide how I want to paint my evil wizard. Should I copy the scheme on their website or go for a different color?

>>98187522
Because i'm tired of people using their personal anecdotes and arbitrary brand loyalties to make blanket hyperbolic statements for the sake of contrarianism
>AP is not even a wet palette functionality-wise
and
>they use the absolute worst bottom of the barrel garbage for nearly everything

it makes the hobby a minefield of misinformation for new painters. hell, find me a single other person corroborating the claims about the wet palette and i'll concede

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Wanted to paint something else this time and picked up ~70mm miniature but since he is made entirely out of metal, he is quite heavy and I have actual problems moving him around while I constantly have feeling that he will break off from his pinned temporary base. Makes me want to give up.

>>98187597
>>AP is not even a wet palette functionality-wise
>they use the absolute worst bottom of the barrel garbage for nearly everything
Both of these statements of mine are true. I have proven the first one in the post above, but you don't have to take my word for it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/minipainting/comments/1ph6we8/army_painter_wet_palette_paper_shredding_easily/
https://www.reddit.com/r/minipainting/comments/y85nnj/my_army_painter_wet_pallette_seems_to_dry_out/
https://www.reddit.com/r/minipainting/comments/13eb82e/wet_palette_is_acting_strange/
All these confirm what I mentioned. It is also kinda funny, because if you read the comments, you can also see "This never happened with my AK wet palette", which is pretty much identical to what I also claimed. There are more posts like this.

The second statement is true, too. AP rattle cans being borderline unusable has been known for years, you can google that. While their current range is fine and completely serviceable, they do suffer from flaws that no other hobby brands suffer from, I have proven this by my chart, and there is a wealth of people having the same problem. I'm not making these things up because I hate AP for some weird reason. If anything, I think it's good to mention when someone recommends AP, so that anons can potentially do research about these issues.

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>>98186555
That's actually a really good idea. I found a nice card for a scheme.

>>98187668
your opinions are wrong, and you should feel bad.

>>98187668
>consensus with all three is that they have a water level issue
hence my point that most "issues" with a wet palette tend to be user error. they're pretty simple devices

>>98187715
Yes, but also issues with the paper quality, and sponge not being good enough, drying very fast unless completely submerged. As I mentioned above. Which brings us around back to my original point; why buy a subpar thing when you can get actual wet palette cheaper.

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>>98187668
>https://www.reddit.com/r/minipainting/comments/13eb82e/wet_palette_is_acting_strange/

>I just painted my first ever miniature and I tried using the army painter wet palette for the first time.

Irrelevant, this guy obviously has no clue what he is talking about at all - how could he, if its the first time painting anything, ever.

>https://www.reddit.com/r/minipainting/comments/y85nnj/my_army_painter_wet_pallette_seems_to_dry_out/
>I'll soak the sponge, wet the paper, and put paint on it. But after 10 minutes or so, the paper's surface is dry

Complete opposite of what you claim, about the paper letting the water soak through too much

And lastly:
>https://www.reddit.com/r/minipainting/comments/1ph6we8/army_painter_wet_palette_paper_shredding_easily/

Pic related is the first comment. What the fuck are you even talking about? Did you even read your own links?

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>>98187734
>irrelevant
No, it is not, because it confirms what I claimed. Repeatedly, too, you can check in the archive. The paint is not beading on AP wet palette (because of what I mentioned), but it beads on other wet palettes. Why is that?
>Complete opposite of what you claim, about the paper letting the water soak through too much
Not really. AP one drying fast when being used as a normal wet palette is part of the problem. The other side of that problem is what I mentioned - when you do what redditors advise, it will end up soaking everything up. That's really the problem here, the sponge is low quality.
>Pic related is the first comment.
Maybe try reading more comments than the first one?

>>98187733
the guy who's palette was "drying very fast" admits to living in an arid climate, dumping out the water reservoir and expecting it to "thin his paints." Again
>user error

>>98187758
Only 29 upvotes vs 66 who have no problems. It also is the only post mentioning AK in all 3 of your examples, which leads me to believe you made that post yourself.

>can go pull up any Youtube video of someone using an AP wet palette and watch it work completely normal
>no let's listen to the redditors who don't even understand how a wet palette is supposed to work

>>98187788
>7788

Nice.
But also, youtubers get paid by AP. Didn't you know that? :^)

>>98187791
It's funny that people push the "AP pays people off" narrative when nearly every video you can find is basically
>Holy shit I'm actually surprised by how good these AP paints/wet palette/etc are
>But X, Y and Z are probably still better
Some devious marketing going on to pay people to say you're not as good as your competitors but you're good enough.

Is it bad to leave my Vallejo metal paints standing up? they seem to separate and it seems like it gets really watery and i assume that means it's not mixing well even after using a vortex mixer for a couple of minutes.

Fucking hell, I just wanted to figure out reasonable alternative to baking paper, not to provoke yet another "no u" accusation chain because someone have brand loyalty issues.

>>98187817
>Some devious marketing going on to pay people to say you're not as good as your competitors but you're good enough.

It is absolutely devious.. how dare people to realize something is perfectly usable, even if its not the 10/10 best in class.
What kind of brain damage is this, where only the absoulte best is ok to use, and everything else is dogshit?

>>98187827
That's normal. Even when I take them out to paint they require stirring every few minutes, just like their washes. Still very good stuff anyway.

>>98187827
Vallejo metals just do that, you have to keep stirring them up on your palette every time you reload your brush to make sure you're getting pigment as well as medium

>>98187827
You should really buy one of those automatic watch rotation stands for perpetual motions and mount something to hold them to that. It's your best bet.
That or keep them in a running rock tumbler, I guess.

>>98187584
also, are there any other good mini makers you want to shill?

>>98187781
Oh, so we got from:
>find me a single other person corroborating the claims about the wet palette and i'll concede
to
>not enough updoots

>>98187759
Alright, now for the five other things. Are all of these also user error?

>>98187788
Strawman. But explain to me, why paint never beads on AP wet palette? Not even on their official videos. Their official video also show what I'm talking about - the paper being soaked through right into the paint.

Shut the fuck up holy shit nobody cares

All this shizo AP and AK talk. You realize you can just buy a similar wet palette from Aliexpress for 3€?

>>98187953
> you can just buy a similar wet palette from Aliexpress for 3€
while I appreciate you said "similar" instead of "exact same" like some spergs here you should still shut the fuck up

>>98187964
It works just the same. Do you think Army Painter or AK make the materials for their wet pallets themselves, instead of just ordering them in bulk from china?

>>98187953
Anon this shitposting has been going on for three days now, there is no sincerity here.

I just 3d printed my palette and bought the sheets and foam off of amazon

>>98188154
You're a fucking moron, and this is coming from a proontfag who will insist that all miniatures and most terrain be printed.
just buy a tupperware container, having a printer doesn't mean everything you do now needs to involve the printer, traditional crafting methods and simple off-the-shelf shit still has it's place.
This is as retarded as when some idiot gets an airbrush and now everything is "OSL" because they don't ever use a brush again.

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>Blood Angel forces prepare to occupy the diarrhea planet, 132.M41 colourised.

>>98187597
this >>98187522 guy here
fair, but you could've started with this instead

>>98188169
>he doesn't print pencils, spoons and pocket pussies
Who is the real idiot here?

>>98188221
>printing pocket pussies
idiot
you print dragon dildos

>>98188169
>irrational seething
Why are you so asshurt? I printed myself a nice large palette with a dry brush area and dry palette on the lid, and a paintbrush/paper holding compartment. It's the exact size of the paper and sponge that I use and it cost me maybe a dollar or two in plastic. I'm not going to use a fucking tupperware container lol.

>>98185947
you mean you just said "but my sloptubers don't do it so that means it's worthless" like a lemming

post your vise

>>98188169
>tupperware container
In all fairness, finding a wide but flat tupperware box is not that easy, because often only small ones are flat, and bigger ones are also tall.
So printing a box in roughly the dimensions of the "professional" ones is not the worst idea, and if you consider that it probably costs less than $2 in material, its hard to beat that with any tupperware box from a store or from amazon.

>>98188169
nta but I just got a jucoci wet palette because it cost 8 dollars whereas a shallow 9" generic brand tupperware at my grocery store would cost me 14 plus 5 bucks for the roll of parchment paper and sponge

>>98188250
I got a plastic container meant for holding brushes at the dollar store for less than a dollar and cut a piece of foam meant for being a nonslip placemat deal to fit, same with sheets of parchment paper, cost me less than $5 total.
the container is about7"x9" and maybe a half inch deep.

>>98188300
Thats good for you, but not everyone has "the dollar store" available, nor has every such store the same items available.

>>98188308
You can find something in A dollar store.
I'm also betting anon didn't use PETG filament for it either which means the water he's putting in it is going to cause breakdown issues with the container because moisture content is an issue with PLA filament.

>>98186769
does it do it with plain water or only paint?

>>98187318
why do you even need to do this though? are you so stingy with your paint that you will buy a special tool just to save a few drops here and there?

>>98187922
>watching someone use the wet palette is a strawman

>>98188317
I hope you realize that there are places in the world, without the concept of poor mans "dollar stores"?

>>98188346
Either answer the questions or fuck off.

reading these posts and realizing that half of the thread is thirdies who can't afford air conditioning or amazon prime is funny. it's like playing a shitty f2p game and finding out that your guild is full of flips and indogs.

>>98188365
but anon... you can get a tupperware container from the dollar store and use craft paints! Why would you waste money?!

I fucking hate you, shitposters. All you can do is to fuck things up, in one of threads dedicated to actually creating something. Post stuff already or get the fuck out to whatever shithole you came from.

>>98188411
>dedicated to actually creating something.
Come on now, this is nothing but the glorified and expensive version of adult paint books, for nerds.

>>98188423
just shut the fuck up already

>>98188355
Only poor turd worlders don't have them, USA, Canada and most of Europe have equivalents.

>>98188447
And why would a normal person with above average income go into a store like that? Why would i even go near such a store, full of the worst subhumans my city happens to house?

>>98188465
So you can act smug about wasting an hour to save 3 dollars

>>98188465
because spending more just to avoid the mere appearance of being poor is a habit of the upper tier of poors.

>>98188470
taking an hour to shop is effeminate

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any advice color wise on how I should go about the final flesh highlight on this ghoul? I like the grey green midtone I got but I’m kind of brainfarting on what to take it to next. Everyone says ghouls are one of the easiest things to paint but I’ve done nighthaunt, skaven and skeletons before this and for some reason this ghoul has given me the most trouble

wasting hours for a shittier end result to save literally $1-2 tops is a habit of the rich and successful

>need some pro acryl reds
>pro acryl doesn't sell their paints on amazon
damnit man
now I have to go to the lgs again

>>98188465
Funny how the wealthiest per capita demographic on tge planet is also the demographic most stereotypically associated with haggling over pennies.
Now, vile as they may be, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Thread has been shit since Rin-anon stopped posting, curious coincidence

>>98188391
one poor guy says he can't afford gas to drive to the store. it must cost a month's wages in his destitute village in pottsylvania to fill the tank.

>>98188556
>I like the grey green midtone I got
he looks brown in the picture.
> Everyone says ghouls are one of the easiest things to paint
yeah cause they don't overthink it and just paint them white and slop a pink/purple wash on it.

>>98188556
I would keep adding white to skintone you already used. I mean, ghouls are supposed to be dead and your purple shades on shadows already accents that.

>>98188580
The dollar store is 2.6 miles from my house. That's a 5.2 mile round trip. My car gets about 25mpg city. Gas costs $5.20 a gallon for what I need. That's $1.08 in gas to go to the dollar store.

>>98186765
Greenstuff World has the best wet palette bar none, the sponge they use doesn’t bend or deform when dry and it stays wet way longer. They also sell cheap paper for them as well.

>>98188701
this is bait

>>98188666
That's a 40 minute walk at $0 per gallon.

>>98188576
Circumstantial at best.

>>98187858
nta, diehard miniatures makes cool stuff, king games too

>>98188706
What are you some pooropean? That's a 6 lane highway with no crosswalk between here and there. No sidewalks either, of course.

>>98188704
NTA but why would it be bait

>>98188701
They put AI slop on all of their paint boxes so I don't buy from them anymore

>>98188732
Pussy

I wonder if all this completely braindead shitposting is a result of some raid or something.

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cereal bases

>>98188610
It’s more of a pale green in person, I think my overhead light and phone camera just kinda wash it out. Do you think I should go for a more saturated green?

>>98188630
Yeah I was kinda leaning towards a yellow green white I was just kinda worried it would wash out the model. I always struggle most with that final layer

>spraying red ink
If I want purple shadows, should I under spray with blue or go purple to start with?

>>98188764
bro just decide what you want him to look like and then paint him that color. if you wanted him to look whiteish why did you make him brown and purple?

>>98188764
If you decide you got a bit too much, you can always take previous shade (like pure flesh shade you already used), thin it greatly (glaze consistency or even more) and apply over. I sometimes do so when I feel I overdid highlights. Try it on some test piece first, however.

>>98188768
Purple.

>>98188733
GSW wet palette is the most basic bitch shit you can get

>>98188800
why respond to someone asking for advice just to not give any actual advice

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Made a start on this trukk/gunwagon thing, quite like how its turning out so I might build another slightly different one

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My Turnip28 squad return victorious today. Well, technically we drew due to a simultaneous Toff-off fatality, but it was very cinematic and I am proud of them.

>>98185369
are you planning on doing any rivets because those face armors could really do with some to break the look of them just floating there
>>98186599
>insulation sheet
cool idea but is it porous and does it wick the glue in or stay soft because insulation anything sounds like it would be pretty resistant to everything

>>98188465
moving the goalpost after your stupidity was pointed out? classic.

cost of 1kg roll of petg: $15
weight of 3d printed wet palette (inc. drybrush lid): 104g

cost: $1.56

>>98189063
Cost is $15 because you now have to go and find an excuse to use that PETG filament that you didn't desire before purchase.

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>>98189063
reminder that wet palette was invented 2008 by a elderly finnish man in his 70s who really liked to grow lots of chili for some reason

>>98189073
>you won’t find a use for petg filament!
nigga are you for real right now

>>98189122
I didn't say WON'T I said NOW YOU HAVE TOO.
You weren't going to do anything else for it, but now you have to come up with excuses to use that material, so the cost is $15 plus storing a bunch of extra shit you didn't originally want.

>>98186934
South Africa
I'd literally need to spend more money to get amazon to deliver something than to just buy a wet palette from the hobby store, and the local baking paper and stationary store paper didn't do the trick.

I find it a bit odd that people are so hung up on brands and elitist about making the stuff themselves and living in "rich" countries. Been to America, wouldn't want to live there.

>>98189221
> so the cost is $15 plus storing a bunch of extra shit you didn't originally want
you forgot to count the printer itself that you have to store somewhere, you dig it out once ot twice every year

>>98185369
Flip the half moon shape around?

The reason some types of parchment paper don't work for wet palettes is that some places in the world manufacture them to be too hydrophobic, sometimes for historic reasons or due to different food regulations. It's just a thing.

>>98189221
>>98189261
>erm you've wasted money, you will never find a use for a 3d printer
come on now lol

>>98189288
Don't be an idiot. 3D printing is its own hobby and not everyone is interested in it.

>>98188873
the advice is to make up your fuckin mind and just paint what you want it to look like.

>>98187132
Even with a home made one it works. Mine was just a box for cornbread when I started and it would keep paint wet for over a day.

Who here has ever used a dry palette with a wet sponge over it (not touching the paint, but covering the well)? It works quite well, and works well to separate colours if you're not particularly interested in mixing on the palette.

ok but why do I need to keep paint wet for hours? who the fuck sits there painting for 12 hours? and even if you were is it really too much trouble to only put an hour's worth of paint on your dry palette at a time? I don't see how this is supposed to be the revolutionary tool people claim it is.

>>98189295
This is bait. This guy, or someone like him, comes along every now and then. Just ignore him.

>>98189295
>the guy wants help with color theory
>JUST DO WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANT
why are you even here

>>98189326
Dry palettes are fine, but you can't mix as effectively on them. You can minimize the amount of wasted paint by using small drops, though, as you say. I often like working with a dry palette, but can understand the appeal of the wet one. Not a necessary item to paint, though.

>>98189349
See >>98189333

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>>98189288
ive 3d printed for 2 years now and if anything i have noticed that since then i havent made a single kitbash, homemade terrain or any other actual real hobby related stuff because the machine has made me lazy

i used to have all these great grand ideas about themed tables and how i would make them but now i just click away on stl sites looking for something ready to print just because i have the equipment that i have to find some use for
3d printing its great but also a trap of sorts you know

>>98189367
Oho, looking good anon

>>98189353
I use the dry palette for priming, drybrushing, washes and base coats for large vehicles.

>>98189333
>being indecisive and painting the opposite of what you want is good actually

>>98189349
literally decide on something and do it. that's how you should approach anything in life. don't waffle around asking what colors to add when you're already halfway through painting. asking what color to add next is pointless because none of us here know what he was intending for it to look like in his head. if he wanted it to look like a sickly green tinted white why did he paint it brown and purple?

"I want to do X but I don't know how" and " I was trying to do Y but it came out like Z what did I do wrong?" are questions that can be answered. "read my mind and tell me what I'm trying to do next" is a waste of time.

>>98189368
That's a you problem, I've been printing about 5ish years now and I still do theme table projects (Blood Bowl pitches) and make terrain from scraps, I also do a lot of digital kitbashing.

>>98187584
Good plug

>>98189368
Not trying to be sarcastic, it sounds to me like you've gotten your money's worth out of printed pieces. Have you considered focusing only on printing bits rather than whole pieces, and returning to your kitbashing ways? They're never out of reach, you know. It'd be like painting with a restricted palette. Sometimes it's the limitations that bring out the fun and creativity.

>>98189353
>you can't mix as effectively on them
can you explain this? I would imagine that mixing would be harder on a wet palette since you have less precise control of how much water is being added, especially when you are trying to mix in things like medium or retarder.

Talking through a problem, and presenting your current situation, regardless of whether you are on the right track, is a perfectly reasonable way to approach a problem from a different angle.

>>98189425
if your wet palette is adding water to your paints then you've got way to much water in it.

>>98189326
>who the fuck sits there painting for 12 hours
> is it really too much trouble to only put an hour's worth of paint on your dry palette at a time
i might paint 20 hour days every now and then
the point and problem about wet palettes these days that has been sold to people is that they magically keep youre paint good for days when you slather it on it

i have a general idea why would some companies tell you to pour half a pot into your palette only for it to dry day later instead of only taking what you need but thats just my conspiracy theory

>>98189438
my background is 2k paints so the whole mindset is foreign to me.

>>98189425
Sure thing. When I mix, I like to use very small amounts of different paints, producing just about the amount I need. With a wet palette, this is simple, and the amount I mixed is usable for the duration of my paint job. I can go to other sections, then come back, and it's still good. With a dry palette, I have to mix using larger amounts, because a small amount would dry very quickly. This usually means mixing drops into a well, rather than brushfuls into each other. I can mix one well into another, but now I no longer have access to my original well. You can work around this by mixing only the bits you need, but now you need to mix every time you want the same colour (because it dries when spread out). Not a problem, but can be a bit inconvenient. If I had to point to the single best benefit of wet over dry, and why it's good for (maybe convenient for is a better way to put it) mixing, it'd be that I can make use of a lot of surface area for mixing and that my mixed and spread paints won't dry before I am done needing them. If I use specific unmixed colours, I often use a dry palette since I don't need that benefit.

>>98187098
Solid work. They look good

>>98189468
I see. I always considered a drop to be the smallest unit of paint. it's interesting that other people are thinking in brushfuls.

Another benefit of a wet palette is that
you can effectively lay out a gradient of paint and just pick from there to achieve smooth blends without much work.

>>98189486
Oh, yeah. You can go as small as you need. Even tiny drops if you want to preserve your paint. I like using lots od different colours, and its rare for a mini to need much of it at a time. When I started, I lost easily about 70% of my paint to drying out. I didn't realize what I was doing until I found myself needing a second pot of one of my favourite colours, I had thought that it would simply last me forever. Now I paint enough that I understand that even a bit of efficiency goes a long way. Wet palette won't make you a good painter, but it's a decent tool and has a place in the ol' arsenal.

>>98189520
Right, colour strings. It's convenient. Also looks pretty.

>>98189524
do you think it would be different if you were batch painting?

>>98189543
For batch painting, I like using dry palettes and premixed dropper bottled because I want my colours to be as accessible as possible. So I'd say yes to that question. I wouldn't want to do any mixing on the palette if my main focus is production-lining mini after mini. Your mileage may vary, of course.

>>98189554
To add onto this, you also don't want to keep needing to refresh your wells when batch painting. I put a damp sponge cloth over my unused wells and it works pretty well, letting me cycle my active well as I move through what I have. If you can really only go one colour at a time, this is less important.

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It's embarrassing but I think this is the best I can do for now for my first model
On to ruin eliminator two of three

>>98189520
>>98189534
maybe im doing something wrong but im never able to really pull this off. the mixes always end up too thin by the time ive pulled and mixed them

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First mini painted. I'll touch up some of the spots that need some more work and give it a wash and varnish when it arrives next week.
I dry brushed the mini with grey over the black primer and it looks substantially better than the test one I did.

>>98189568
Looks great for a first model anon! Hang onto that guy and give him a place of pride in a year or three once you're painting up masterpieces

>>98189581
You too! Loving the stripes

>>98189569
Haha, yeah they can be a bit tough to get the hang of. Keep at it though if you like the idea, it'll click eventually.

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Thoughts on copper vs gold trim? I feel like the gold goes better with the turquoise

>>98189568
every color is where they should be now just fill the rest
>>98189581
i like the stripes but they are same color as the greatcoat so next time try yellow and it will look even better

>>98189595
Copper is a better companion to turquoise (verdigris, innit), but yours is pretty pale and brassy. Do you have a more saturated one or maybe a brown/sepia wash you could use to bump the saturation at least in the shaded regions?

>>98189595
gold because copper patina is turquoise too

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Asked for some tips on replicating a watercolor look in here a month or so ago, it's turning out pretty good I think, so thanks for the advice fellas.

>>98189608
I was going to do yellow hazard stripes but then I thought it would like a McDonalds nigga so I gotta think of a different color if the red doesn't really work. Maybe white?
I might also just have only the watchmasters have red coats and give the other guys grey coats so the yellow hazard stripes don't look silly.

>>98189636
to be honest i dont think anyone outside of america would think any fast food chain when they first saw that color scheme
but you do you and the chainsword is great way to add some contrast so white could work

>>98189612
It's just balthasar gold from the pot. It's probably just the lighting washing it out, but I'll see how a wash treats it
>>98189620
I'll probably just finish one in both and see how they turn out.

>>98189568
it's not bad you just need to even out the coverage on the red and neaten up the face

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Another halfling arquebusier conversion in progress here. I actually used.the shield as the primary anchor point by running a pin a ways up that hollow crevice there, it's superglued into place and sealed in by the sprue goo. Then his foot closest to the shield has been joined using a little stretch of styrene, and I threw a little pin up into his foot after the sprue goo sub-base dried and cured. This is probably my least favorite of the halfling torsos in this kit, it's tough to get the arms to look right with the legs without creating an apeling.

>>98189626
any tips? I searched the archive and all I found was ai slop

>>98189703
why are you hopping trough all these pinnings and melting hoops to make sure the model wont jump off its base even if there was an earthquake
just put a small drop of superglue he is not going anywhere

>>98189685
>>98189608
What bits in particular are you talking about? I see the backpack needs fixing and I got a bit of red on the inside of the cape and chest strap

>>98189759
well all your chestplate trim and decor is still unpainted
tactical rock edges are still showing
gun strap is unpainted
headset is colored red
to name a few but you will get there

>>98188556
Grab three different colors, a greenish grey, a pale yellow, and ivory or off white. You can mix a little bit of them into three different highlight colors to spread across the unit. Since they'll all share base midtones and shadow colors they'll still look like they belong together while giving the unit a little variety.

>>98189271
Some brands come coated in foodsafe wax, so you need to double check the product descriptions.

>>98189595
copper looks way better. that's an ugly shade of gold. and having two bright, bold colours alongside the green makes the whole model look cheaper.

>>98189830
in my country its even more confusing
leivinpaperi (baking paper) is the one with the coating
voipaperi (butter paper) is the one that sounds like it has non-stick coaring but its actually the one that has none

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>>98189568
Wait for the texture paste to dry before taking your picture.

If you want to improve how the base looks, slather the textured portion with Agrax Earthshade. Then wait for it to dry. Carefully drybrush that part with Zandri Dustd. This will restore some of the colour the wash darkens a little too much. Finally, give the highest points a light drybrushing of Dawnstone (more grey) or Ionrach Skin (brighter) as you choose.

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>>98189861

>>98189893
riveting stuff at 4am

>>98189326
I use a tupperware container with a lid and sometimes it's genuinely handy to have the paint remain useable for a day or two. Like after I had finished the decals on my last batch of marines I noticed I'd forgotten to paint a purity seal but when I opened the pallette back up all my colors and mixes were still good to go.

>>98189944
I do this too. If you use Vallejo Xpress medium as a thinner, it dries out pretty quick though, from my experience.

>>98189925
Newfy or brazilian?

>>98190020
br

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>>98189802
My bedroom light is really dim to avoid headaches and I'm only noticing stuff when I take photos
Also I spilled my agrax earthshade and now I need to buy some more

>>98190148
>I'm only noticing stuff when I take photos
The mini painting experience. You’ll paint something to tabletop quality and then try and take a picture of it to share and feel more shame than you’ve ever felt in your life seeing it in a photo

>>98186163
>performance and properties
Lmao
Bet you miss citadel water too

>>98188701
>GSW
No

>>98189239
Anon wet palettes have existed in the art world for a long time, any art store will have them, or just do what sane people do and make one, if it's good enough for GF winners, it's good enough for you

>>98189326
Depends where you live, where I am a paint drop dries in 30 min and leaving the lid off a bottle of paint by accident means that paint is ruined

>>98190148
>I'm only noticing stuff when I take photos
That's normal honestly

I finally got to use my Windsor&Newton brush today, since I'd been using a lot of metallics and speedpaints.

Turns out paying for premium products is nice.

>>98186765
Jucoci

>>98190312
I live in america so I have air conditioning

>>98190148
>Also I spilled my agrax earthshade and now I need to buy some more
Ha! Spilling your wash is a right of passage, welcome to the club.

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>>98190148
>Also I spilled my agrax earthshade
Gabba gabba we accept you, one of us!

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My knights of Camelot are shaping up.

>>98189715
Do a solid coat of your base color.
Cover the entire thing in a thin layer of white either using a sponge or stippled on with a brush.
Thin the shit out of your main color and airbrush it on slowly in layers, leave any area you want to be a highlight completely untouched. Do the same thing with a slightly darker color.
If you need to you can stiple on more white in the highlights, and flick some on with a brush and toothpick for extra texture.

should I zenithal prime if I'm doing regular layering?

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>>98190475

>>98190542
No, you probably won’t see much of a difference.

If I want to do an osl effect with a brush, should I paint regular highlights then glaze over them in the color I want, or do I have to paint them as the color I want to begin with?

>>98190557
I do it as follows: Drybrush white -> glaze color, drybrush white -> glaze color, etc. You decrease the area and increase the intensity of the drybrush pass each round.

Feel like lately all my glazes are kinda pooling up and just staining the model and I’m not really sure what I’m doing differently. Was glazing with a red but dunno why that would matter

>>98190656
Different colors will have different vibrancy and opacity and may need to be thinned differently. If you like glazing a lot I recommend getting some glazing medium. Let's you really get a thin glaze out of acrylic paint without the paint breaking.

>>98190656
Are you wicking off the excess paint onto some paper before putting your brush on the mini?

load brush -> wick excess -> glaze

>>98190430
>he doesn't know what humidity is
explains the education

Does anyone have a pdf of the Tommy Soule book

>>98188934

Good idea, I've got some microbeads for nails that I could use. I'll see what I can come up with this evening.

>>98190656
Are you glazing to blend?
If so, what I do is load the least amount of paint possible, then go straight to the model. It comes out great that way and no pooling or staining.

>>98189568
dude this is fucking ugly, not sure why the other anons are lying but youve failed to paint between the lines so to say. Not getting paint thinning correct at the beginning is understandable but being sloppy with the application as an adult is inexcusable.

>>98186150
Different people like it other ways but try saturating your tray more. I prefer my paper to basically be floating on water, the sponge almost there to stop the paper from pushing into the water when mixing etc. I find when the level of water drops too low it feels like the sponge "absorbs" more of the available moisture and the paint dries out quicker. Does stop your paint from diluting itself tho.

>>98190871
Post your first model you absolute fucking faggot.
He's knew, not retarded. He knows it's bad. He said so in the post.
I fucking hated negative worthless fucks so god damn much. I hate hug boxes, but you needing to feeling good by being a cunt. Is insufferable.

>>98190891
I couldn't even type correctly.
That's how much I hope you get cancer.

>>98190891
youre fucking retarded and incapable of reading clearly.
If he knows its horrible then dont post it with the pathetic fishing for compliments. All the replies are reddit tier ow its ok for a first mini. No its not if youre incapable of applying paint neatly or correcting it at an adult age youre deficient and need to be made aware of your deficiency

>>98190891
>I hate hug boxes,
>Looks great for a first model anon!
>it's not bad
doesnt look great
>every color is where they should be now just fill the rest
Clearly wrong

stfu the replies are worthless and only one actually gave feedback that wasnt ball licking and cock stroking

>>98190901
This is WiP you stupid bastard. I'm not telling you to not be critical you slobbing shit for brains.
How do you know he is an adult? This is a blue board you god damn lobotomite.
He wants to participate You can be constructive without being an insufferable ass.
>Fishing for compliments
Sorry when you post no one gives you the attention your father clearly never gave you.
Fuck off. I don't even know how reddit is, because I don't fucking go there. You clearly do.
Being a dick, doesn't make anyone think you have good opinions. You want to feel good, because no one fucking likes you.

>>98190906
Why the fuck do you care what other people say about someone else's model?
Probably because no one cares about your garbage. Who fucking cares if it's not constructive. It's encouraging and not discouraging. You're on an anonymous board. Bitching about what anonymous people say. You're clearly retarded.

>>98190909
You daft cunt you need to be 18 to post on (8/2)chan that’s how I know he is an adult. Rest of your post is oversocialised drivel there to dance around the fact that people gleefully lie to retards so the fee fees do :). Your white knighting is cretinous and hypocritical, foidcoded even.
End of the day: do better
>>98190912
Don’t get involved if you think false compliments are encouraging.

>>98190298
I visited multiple art stores at the largest shopping center in the part of the country I was in looking for a wet palette, and it was not sold. Neither was non-waxed parchment paper. It's just not commonly sold everywhere like it is where some anons are from. Online ordering was the same deal at the time, and the ones I did find were more expensive than the $10 army painter wet palette so I got that.

>>98190922
Nta but wow you are a fucking gigantic faggot

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Polished off the Berserker squad and the Master of Executions. Just the Jakhals to go then the combat patrol is finished. Took some time to get Open Camera and a cracked version of Adobe Lightroom to use the raw .dng files. I think the photos look more accurate compared with the phone's default camera.