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I like Nova Cats and Spirit Cats but Clanners are so mean :(
Huge missed opportunity that the rakshasa wasn't nicknamed the sadcat.
How much of 'everything is lostech and what barely functions now is held together by ductape and prayer, unable yo properly repair and maintain in the late SW' got retconned? Think I had read about natural diamond price got skyrocketyed because diamond was needed for mech armor but artificial diamond making got losteched
>>98189125depends era
>>98189125Pretty much all of it. Under the original fluff, the idea that you could actually get 4 mechs together to go fight 4 other mechs is laughable.
>>98189125It's pretty much only a factor for 3rd Succession War era, and even then it's exaggerated. You can keep basic equipment running reasonably well, but a cored mech is only worth the scrap and anything with lostech is only going to be that way for a dozen deployments under ideal circumstances.
Does anyone have a copy of Mechwarrior's Guide to the Clans? It doesn't even seem to exist anywhere as a scan for legitimate purchase, and hardly anywhere for sketch ass purchase.
How is it even determined who fields what in this setting? I've been reading some of the materials and they seem to usually be pretty vague on the users of a machine unless its really only for one or two factions, but there's also a whole big concrete list per faction online
>>98189125>got retconnedMostly that a bunch of machines that went extinct in the 2900's were actually actively being made and/or supported with parts by factories.Also, a lot of knowledge lost from data cores getting destroyed or dying to the point actual paper backups were needed to found the NAIS was suddenly not anymore.>>98189151Under the original fluff, everyone was scavengers but the standard planetary invasion still involved a full regiment of machines.
>>98189177In the trove, bro.>purchasing pdf's
>>98189190>the troveI wasn't planning on purchasing it bro, I was illustrating how hard it is to find.
>>98189183http://masterunitlist.info/Of course it's not comprehensive, if your dudes worked for or fought against the Davions for example there's no reason they couldn't use Davion "exclusive" mechs despite being Mercs of Cappies. Everyone looted whatever they could find.
>>98189193>how hard it is to findThis thread is pretty much the best digital archive of all Battletech books on the net. We have nearly everything. I'm looking at my own copy of your book in .pdf and I downloaded it in 2011. That's not even how long we've been archiving things.
>>98189207MUL mostly only lists things that are made in that state, actively supported by the regular logistics chain in that state, or have shown up in novels used by characters from that state. If your quartermaster can't get spare parts for it using a standardized form, then it's not going to be on the MUL. Usually.
>>98189110that's okay they got genocided
>>98189247Well yeah, otherwise it would just be a list of all units period by era. Do you want a detailed order of battle of every single command in the setting at every single point of every single year?
>>98189208Cool, I had a look through all the links attached to the thread that I could find, and all the related materials in the sharethread, could you point me to that one? I must have missed it somewhere.
>>98189207That site was pretty much what prompted my question yeah, I want to know why certain units are listed under certain factions on there, or is it just that they were mentioned as using them in one line once?
>>98189183A combination of the MUL and research.For an extreme example of why you need both, take the Rampage. On the MUL, every single variant is extinct after the fall of the Star League. But the original publication where the Rampage was first mentioned involves one of the periphery powers (without their own MUL entry) pulling a bunch of them out of a cache and using them. Putting a Rampage in their force is the most fluff accurate use of the design since Amaris was hanged, but it's not MUL compliant. The more research you do, the more you understand who uses what.
I think today I will kill spheroids with a big laser.
>>98189317That's the worst but thank you, very complete answer
>>98189315They were mentioned using it somewhere, usually. But MUL is itself a canon source, if the people who maintain it add a unit somewhere, that's canon now. There are even a handful of units that literally only exist on the MUL with no known fluff outside of their designation and what faction(s) it lists for them.
>>98184518If you compare their roster versus everyone else they get the absolute scraps till 3039. There are a few good designs but most of it is best described as mook choices. The fact they do so well with them regardless is one of the reasons why we love the Dracs.>>98189125Recent stuff has made it that even lostech is no longer that much of lostech as there are some forces that are fielding Star League era spec designs during the late Succession Wars albeit it is extremely limited. Frankly we are at the point the retcons are getting retcons.
>>98189336Good to know, very CGL
>>98189313I don't want to dig, so here's a fresh upload. Don't forget to edit the link.https://www.mediafire dot com slash file/hm3nwgimp28avo3/1725-Mechwarrior's+Guide+to+the+Clans.pdf/file
>>98189362Absolutely top tier anon, many thanks.
>>98189369Anytime, brother.
Gonna paint this bad boy tomorrow afternoon.
>>98189338No one will ever convince me the beemer isn't just a superfat griffin wannabe.
>>98189417>Dougram design resembles Dougram design>Literally is the upgraded Griffin mook of the showI'm shocked! SHOCKED! Well, not that shocked.
>>98189409Nice clean drybrush.
>>98189417Its actually the godfather of the Griffin mafia.
>>98189484Nah. If it was it would not have the rear lasers, would be a 3/5/3 assault so that iflt could match its giant ppc gun rifle with a FAT TOOB lrm pack.So... a highlander.
So at the end of the day, so many great mechs... are just Griffinalikes. That is how they end up being good.Remember, even AI recognises the superiority of Griffin.
>>98189259>Do you want a detailed order of battle of every single command in the setting at every single point of every single year?Yes
PEE PEE CEEPHAT TOOB.I'm now imagining if a clantech production line beemer that's clanxlfe for 4/6/4 or 5/8/5 is even possible... with endo maybe and FF so it can hit cerppc and cslrm pack to go with maybe some back up clan medpulse? Say like two on the left arm. Gotta case II that ammo too. And have at least 90% armour coverage.But I think 85 t needs like a 50000 rated engine to go 5/8.? So boooo.
>>98189511He has become such a fatty that he has lost the ability to use jump jets. Now he sits around going on about how he used to be a contender while younger fitter Griffins do all the work.>>98189540Partial Wing or Improved JJ plus TSM can get it to 5/8/5 using IS tech.
>>98189604I COULDA BEEN A CONTENDER!
>>98189732
>>98189740
What's a mech that you're happy to be piloting regardless of the situation? For me, it's a Griffin 2N. It's not standout at any job, but there's never a time where I'm disappointed to have one.
>>98189829Iron Cheetah B or Jade Phoenix A
>>98189829Thud is mah boi, every flavor.
>>98189829Griffin. 5/8/5 is damn hard to pass up. And the capacity to exterminate pretty much anything 6/9/x that can go faster than you is not to be sniffed at. Plus being able to keep throwing ppc blasts downrange and lrm splats at bigger things that can never close the distance to you in order to bring THEIR heavier firepower to bear...Nope. Give me that griffin. Medium supremacy. Griffin supremacy.>>98189926Again, just a fat, slow griffin.
>>98189975>Again, just a fat, slow griffin.That's some Harmony Gold logic.
>>98189995Thud has. A big energy rifle gun. And a big lrm toob.Its a fat slow griffin.
Beardiak when?
Best Mongoose Variant?
Rules question:Suppose an enemy mech gets immediately behind one of yours. During your attack phase, is it legal to>Torso twist>Use side arc from arm weapon to target the backstabber?Because I just did that in a beginner game and I'm not sure if I cheated. I blew that Wasp's head clean off lmao
What was their problem?
>>98190489too honorable for this dezgra world
>>98190457That is normal, yes.
>>98190517Hahaha nice. Reverse Uno card.
>>98190489Wanted to remove IS taint(and blood spirit for some reason) but forgot they were tainted by the IS
>>98190525Thus to all lightfaggots.
>>98190525If you don't have an arm weapon to use in the shooting phase you can also backhand them if you torso twisted. If you have an arm without lower arm actuators (like a Rifleman)you can also flip your arms and blast him. The Legend Killer special.
>>98190457Yes it is. Of course, only one arm can shoot depending on the direction you chose to twist.
>>98190489Forgot that Warships are a fiat weapon, and they didn't have Ghost Bear fiat.
>>98190531Show me on the doll where the Ion Sparrow touched you.
My take on Scorpion Empire Seeker Galaxy. Rush painted this fucker for a historical campaign. Sat on a hill in heavy woods Gaussing and LPLing bitch ass Lyrans who kept refusing to 1v1 me. Probably the first time a freshly painted model didn't eat shit in its first game. Maybe the curse is lifted...
>>98190457The only time you can't do this is with a completely restricted arm, such as having a large weapon split between the arm and torso.
Battletech should have something like the Zaku Tank. A kino little badass who simply doesn't give up, even after losing his legs!I wonder if I could use the construction rules to make some sort of badass with a tank bottom and mech top?
>>98190710The Zaku tank was a piece of shit pile of spare parts and salvage that would be at home in a Dark Age trashcan fight.
>>98190716FUCKING BLASPHEMY! I WILL BURN YOU AT THE STAKE!
>>98190710You will not convince me there is a single one of the original MSVs you or anyone on this planet gives half a shit about.
Is there a transportation method to move individual mechs between battlefields on the same planet without them having to walk there?
>>98190710Quadvees exist and they suck.
>>98190710
>>98190732>they suck.Skill issue lmfao
>>98190710Probably doable. There's quadvees and some industrialmechs have tracks for legs/feet.
>>98190710Would give treadheads bigger egos they don't need.
Quadvees transform into vehicles. A proper "tank leg" machine would have the movement profile of a wheeled/tracked vee but the torso twist, arm melee and hit location mechanics of a mech. There is theoretically nothing holding this back, hell you can do it without having to inject homerules in live gameplay. As in, you just need to homebrew your construction logic for a tank leg mech, then you can resolve the movement and combat phases using existing rules like normal.
>>98190766Don't some of the MOD IndustrialMechs have tracked legs, like miningmechs or something? Could use the rules for them to handle movement.
Are Goblins considered generic vehicles?
>>98190724Go cry in a ditch.
>>98190716Kys Nigger. Zaku Tank is KING.
>>98190785King of being shit. The Zaku tank is the Zeon version of the Feddie Ball, but even worse because the Ball is an engineering vehicle repurposed for combat, and most Zaku tanks are combat vehicles repurposed as engineering or logistics support vehicles. It exists solely to illustrate how desperate Zeon was for anything that could still move by the end of the OYW. Their very existence is proof that Zeon is losing. Meanwhile the Feddies are cranking out GMs to go shit on the Zeons in space, too.
By the ilClan era, how familiar would Inner Sphere people be with the details of Clan culture and practices?For example, would they generally understand things like how Trials work, how position trials and Bloodname contests are conducted, or how solahma and garrison postings are regarded within Clan society?
>>98190870>hey guys by the IL CLAN era, does everyone generally understand the basics of Clan interactions?Also some of it stops mattering because they really do go native. SLDF 3.0 can't possibly not have garrison postings as part of its normal operations, it has to be less stigmatized as a necessity.
HONOR THE DRAGON!
>>98190877The clans have never needed to adhere to what is logically necessary to us.
>>98190489To the extreme, I rock a mic like a vandalLight up a stage and wax a chump like a candle
>>98190772More or less. Not cute though.
>>98189259>Do you want a detailed order of battle of every single command in the setting at every single point of every single year?Fucking YES. Down to the individual Mech. I want to be able to tell someone they're wrong when they field a Devastator in a 3rd Crucis Lancers formation in March of 3058.
>>98191163It's incredibly fucked up that your first thought is how you can use new information as a weapon against other players.
>>98191195My first thought was "That tome would be the size of a phone book and about as much fun to parse through."
>>>98188811>Some factions have their own specialist tools so don't have to give factions all the same kind of weaponsMy main point of reference in BT is Battle Troops, which features largely symmetrical unit loadouts. Also when I try to imagine how a Flechette weapon would even work, my best bet is some kind of gas rifle that compresses diesel with a piston. The same piston also smashes the polymer projectile so that the whole operation's still single-stroke and of reliable timing. Or some kinda Wankel motor Dreyse needle-gun, I guess. Really, those FASA folks could just write shit and call it a day.
>>98190870Most people don't know how their own elections work, why would they give a damn about the specifics of the sex rituals of the people they're trying to kill?
>>98191210It would be a book of grudges.>>98191242>all those SMGs in rifle platoonsSomeone needs to invent a time machine so they can go back and slap everyone at FASA.
>>98190710>>98190724>>98190736>>98190785The true KING is that Agg
>>98191261It makes sense if you think of BT as a Comblock civil war setting.On that note, I'm almost certain that somebody in the IS' using LAD machine guns with belt pouches.
>>98191195>your first thought is how you can use new information as a weapon against other players.That's what's fun for me. I play games to win, and if I can win by getting the other guy to quit, then so much the better.
>>98191328>t. nogames
>>98191328>>98191343His ideal state is literally sitting at home, imagining how he'd get to not play games IRL if he were to skillfully use this tidbit of obscure scifi lore.
>>98191251Uuuh, my lawyer says I don't need to answer that question.
>World Killers EditionYou think we're ever gonna see Hyperspace Blakists again or will they just be left to fade away?
>>98191242lol wtf is this nonsenseplease tell me this isn't canon anymore
>>98191328that's contrarian anon for you. no fun allowed. ever.
>>98191512Hopefully not. Word of Blake and the Jihad were the absolute worst points in the entire history of Battletech.
>>98189447My painting it awful so I imagine you're being sarcastic. To be sincere, it's dabbed on with a dense make-up sponge.I think I am going to do him brown and maybe some pink somewhere, but idk where. I'll maybe dry brush some colored metallic because I like the weird irredescent effect it gives. I've got a brown blackjack with a yellow drybrush and he looks kinda bronze irl.
>>98191512Hopefully. Word of Blake and the Jihad were the absolute best points in the entire history of Battletech
>>98185959>>98185967I found a way to make it exactly 4500 BV>BNC-3E, 6gun/4pilot (Better pilot, worse gunner)>STN-3KB, 4gun/6pilot (Worse pilot)>TDR-5SE, 4gun/5pilot (Regular)>WLF-1A, 4gun/5pilot (Regular)
>>98191526Best I can say that it isn't from a novel, so it isn't super-canonic, like the Davions being subhuman shorties-thing, but Battletroops suggests that this is how they rolled until the Clan Invasion. Or at least Clan Troops suggests rifles started to supplant SMGs once again.It's not completely odd either, the Soldiers of Fortune guy suggested that troops fighting in nuked cities should be carrying burp gun and and AT launcher, with the rifle being a designated marksman tool only.
>>98191210Honestly I would love to read a big book of unit organizations
>>98191534>Worse than republic of sphere>Worse than blackout>Worse than IlclanWhy is almost every new era shittier than the last? I'd say Jihad was better than civil war and clan invasion better than fourth succession war.
Do they play Battletech in the Battletech universe?
The Draconis Combine Mustered Faggotry
What was the point of the Refusal War if you're just going to have Vlad Ward kill the Jade Falcon leadership and declare Wolf independence again?What was the point of splitting Clan Wolf into Warden and Crusader when they were eventually reunited again?What was the point of wiping out Smoke Jaguar if they are going to be resuscitated again by the IlClan era?What was the point of uniting the Lyran Commonwealth and Federated Suns if you're just going to break it up again after the FedCom civil war?What was the point of renaming it to the Lyran Alliance if Adam Steiner is just going to rename it back to the Lyran Commonwealth?What was the point of the Blakist Jihad if Comstar was going to lose and nothing changes?What was the point of the Dark Age when everyone would eventually recover to the same level of technology and there were no meaningful territorial changes to the Great Houses?What was the point of the Republic of the Sphere when it was just going to fall apart the moment Devlin Stone died and the IS went back to fighting among itself?What was the point of Operation Revival failing if Clan Wolf was just going to come in and win one hundred years later?
>>98191790>What was the point of renaming it to the Lyran Alliance if Adam Steiner is just going to rename it back to the Lyran Commonwealth?So that 'Elsies' can be an in-universe epithet again.
>>98191790What was the point of partitioning Poland just so they could reunite again?
>>98191852What's the point of Poland in the first place?
>>98191854Gotta put the poles somewhere
Poland has been part of Russia since ancient times.
>>98191911Prussia*FTFY
>>98191854>>98191868Without Poles, magnets would stop working and I'd become estranged from my family.
>>98191790retard detected
>>98191913I don't agree, but I like the cut of your jib. Let's partition poland.
>>98191665If these were all carbines then make some sense but fucking hell this is retarded. This is Serb militia tier from the breakup of Yugoslavia not a proper fighting force.>>98191833Burn this!>>98191854Buffer state between civilization and the Tatars.
>>98191242What is the advantage of the sergeant only having a pistol in the davion squads?
>>98192121Free hand available to give his officer a reacharound
>>98191934>This is Serb militia tier from the breakup of YugoslaviaThese are literal succession wars forces, yes.
>>98191934
>>98192121Machine pistol means a pistol-caliber select-fire PDWs/pistol carbine.
>>98192238Guess it gives me an excuse to post lepa sela lepo gore>>98192265>
>>98191790>what was the pointTo give us conflicts in which we can play with our big stompy robot toys.
>>98192296>he drew a graffiti of a Serb three-finger salute with the caption saying "Srbija do Tokija" ("Serbia to Tokyo") on the wall of an abandoned house [...] later holding a Confederate flag when leaving the Bosniak village [...], and he always wear a headband with the Chinese character for "dragon" (龍) on it.What kind of Drac his he?
>Punch-Out but its a Commando going up against anything heavier than itImagine
>>98192348Select the appropriate district
>>98192348One who knows the answer to the Davion problem.
>>98192297You'd think that but the purpose of the 3150s seems to be nothing substantial happening, wven though youd think it would be insanely chaotic.
>>98191833Any more mech warrior art? There was one I remember seeing that looked like that but she was shorter and a drac
>>98190729Dropship, large support vehicles (like the Koi).
>>98190729Train
>>98191790What is the point of your dick if you're never going to put it in a woman?
>>98190729If you mean literally just one mech at a time, then there's things like Battlemech Recovery Vehicles, Tonbos, and big cargo planes. Dropships are a lot more convenient if you have to go continental distances or move more than a single mech. If there's a lot of water, there's probably also cargo ships unless it's a very rural kind of world.
>>98192854What if fusion powered train battles
>Devastator>Victor>Nightstar>Templar>Sagittaire>Rifleman>Falconer>Jagermech>Thanatos>Hellspawn>Enforcer>Centurion>Blackjack>Javelin>ValkyrieFedsuns have some cool mechs
>>98193073Oh and the penatrator
>>98193061The Davions have those.
I think the setting would be greatly improved if elementals were also mechwarriors
>>98193226Why?
>>98193232It's a Mechassault kid.
>>98191319>>98190785Incorrect. Zock is king.
>>98192296nigga u gay
My first mechwarrior was 3, but I think 4 was the best one and I liked mech assault as well. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
>>98193294No
So how much customization does your group tend to allow/use for units?>No customization>Swap basic weapons or facing (make rear facing weapons front facing or swap LRMs for SRMs)>Complete redesigns of existing units (eg. entirely different weapon loadouts, different engine, add or remove jump jets)>Entirely custom unitsGenerally my group tends to keep to basic modifications, but nobody minds if you go "this is my commander's custom mech."
>>98193466Our campaign allows one custom "within reason", with the specific example of tarcomp'd cLPL boating as not being "within reason". I don't bother with customs, myself.
All the factions have a color associated with them.>Blue=Steiner>Red=Kurita>Yellow=Davion>Green=Liao>Purple=Marik>Orange=Merc>White=ComStar>Black=PirateCool. I dig it. What about the smaller factions? Some seem obvious, but what about the St. Ives Pact? What color do they rock as their standard?
>>98193941You already listed Liao.
>>98193970I am aware that they broke away from and rebelled against Liao. Surely they didn't just keep using Liao colors?
>>98193983Actually, if you look at the 3052 Fedcom map, they're a literal Fedcom vassal state (just like the Hogs are a Comstar Protectorate) and use Davion yellow on the map.
>>98193278
>>98193941I always assumed they were a very pale green, but I don't think I have any real basis for it. Maybe I saw a map where that was their color once.
>>98191833>obvious tranny
Where the fuck is the bugmech box!?
>>98194117Too busy putting Mad Cats in boxes.
>>98194117Nobody cares about shit units anon. Mechs aren't viable on the tabletop until 30 tons.
For the Hinterlands campaign, how badly people would treat you if you are former CJF-turned-mercs?
>shows up on radar
>>98194222It is always Hetzing time.
>>98194164Bugmechs are lore. Bugmechs are life.
>>98194133Should have said Rifleman instead.>Wolf's Dragoons>IS Battle>Snord's Irregulars>Aces SS Box>Essentials BoxMadCat>Wolf's Dragoons>Clan Invasion Box>Alpha Strike Box>Legendary Mechwarriors 3MadCat is close, but it's also a mascot mech. It deserves it. Does the Rifleman deserve that much? Meanwhile the Commando is still stuck in the AGOAC box and hasn't been put in anything else.
>>98193232Makes my dick hard
>>98194297Poor Vindi...
>>98194347What? It getting a single appearance in the Beginner Box isn't good enough for you? It's only the most common House Liao mech. What could you possibly need more than 1 of them for? Oh, what's that? You're not a Beginner? Or maybe you bought a Beginner Box back when it had a Wolverine and a Griffin instead? Thank you so much for your purchase and support. Now go fuck yourself.
What kind of scenario/Hot Spot would you be able to make using the rival restaurants?
>>98194475Taco Shark is about to open a franchise on planet and hires mercenaries to attack their competitors' distribution warehouses the week before, so that opening week sales records are better.
>>98194492formerly Taco Fox
>>98194297Wolfhound also has four models if I remember right.
>>98194646Technically by now it's currently Taco Fox, formerly Taco Shark, formerly Taco Fox
>>98194654>>98194646Canon says they kept the Taco Shark name after Clan Sea Fox rebranded
>>98194662I can't blame them. Do you have any idea how expensive a franchise-wide rebrand is?
I am second-guessing myself with regards to how I want to paint /mydudes/, which I just primed the first batch of.So my plan was to larp as the 7th Pesht Regulars because they were at one point stationed in a section of Combine space which has a decent handful of systems named after towns and villages from my local area.However my initial consultation of Sarna had stuff saying they are a company composed solely of light mechs, which put a bit of a damper on this idea. I did then get the idea to simply make an OC merc company for all my non-light mechs, headcanoning that they've been attached to the 7th for additional firepower.However I have since found several references to individuals from the 7th using non-light mechs, and I think the lore describing them as an all-light regiment is mostly only relevant to the late Succession Wars timeframe. I'm still gonna make the merc band for most of the heavier stuff, but should I maybe at least paint a couple mediums or heavies in the 7th's colors to represent the command lance? Or should I just fully commit to the bit and make an entire company of nothing but light mechs in white & green (with the mercs having everything else of course)?
>>98195005You should abandon Pesht for Galedon. HONOR THE DRAGON!No, seriously. Choose another Drac unit for your heavier bros. Poor fags and Azami are all lights and mediums, and death to mercenaries.
>>98195005You could make the Nth Pesht Regulars, where N=a unit not given a canon composition.You could make them a DCMS militia unit "auxilliary to" the Pesht Regulars and wearing their colors while attached.
>>98194063Why did Zeon create so many huggable Mobile Suits?
>>98195153It's required for aquatic suits, please understand.
>>98194475A rival chicken chain hires them to fight a Trial of Possession for the list of KFC's secret herbs and spices.
>>98194222
>>98193466Sparse customization only, adherent to era availability, to keep a boot on WAACfag fuckery.
>>98194361You forgot>What, you only play Alpha Strike? No card for you!
>>98195156
>>98195338Have you tried playing with friends who are presumably also not WAACfags?
>>98195444Imposing limitations is what keeps us friends. Some motherfuckers can't resist the cake otherwise.
>battlemechs are supposed to be crazy expensive>a c-bill is only like 10x the value of a dollar or somethingThe people who came up with this setting really didnt know much about economics or military matters, did they?
>>98195516WaowYoure likeThe first person to have this idea or somethingYou could even come up with one word to describe it
>>98195516FASA leaned hard into cockblocking Joe Schmoe into visiting the local 7/11 for a Battlemech. If you didn't inherit one, you had to be abnormally rich to purchase one outright. Over time, the focus became on established merc units and standing House militaries, who have loads of dosh, so if Joe Schmoe wanted a 'mech he just joined the army for one instead.
>>98195516>>98195527>>98195551The prices stated in the TROs are the download costs via a Com* service.Com* does not want you to download a mech, so the actual purchase price at the dealers is naturally higher than that.
>>98195584YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD A MECH
>>98195516Accounting is lostech
>>98195516
Shouldn't vehicles with turrets be able to go hull down by partially climbing the grade between the hex they are in and an adjacent hex 1 level higher, which would otherwise totally block line of sight to them? It seems strange to require special, non-existent half height hexes for the most normal tank thing ever to happen when mapsheets are covered in climbale slopes.
>>98191719Because in the year 2001/2 when WizKids took over from FASA, they timeskipped from the end of the FedCom Civil War to 3134, creating all of the eras but not explaining shit of what went down. Al of the lore relating to the Blackout, Republic of the Sphere, and Jihad had to be massively backfilled in order for everything to be put into some semblance of sense as best as they could.The requirements to destroy the Second Star League and most FASA characters for the Jihad to even have a chance of happening, then the decades of peace needed for the Republic to be in any semblance of stable, and then the fusion of Grey Monday and the Wall going up all before that timeskip to ClickyTech pretty much forced the situation into an IlClan era with how a lot of the Dark Ages books rolled out even early on.Thank god Catalyst didn't go through with the 100 year timeskip they were thinking of doing. IlClan is absolutely going to start off weak because we are still dealing with the consequences of that OG giant timeskip, but it's gonna be the last one where the first and second order effects will be in play.At this point, I'm hoping we get some momentum up. Given how long the average post-Succession War era is (minus the abnormally long 50 year Republic Era), if we can get a good clip like 3-4 years of in-universe progression per IRL year, we'll be past the IlClan by 2030, maybe 2032. Even if they run it nearly as long as the Republic Era, we'd still be closing in on the end of it and the year 3200 this time next decade.
>>98195808It's a giant robot world out here, my man.The rule should be in Stratops, I think. That one also has rules that allow vees to throw up berms for hull down cover anywhere.
>>98195808yes. vees should be far more annoying to kill because of trying to hit the fucking turret. only missiles, thanks to their arcing fire and ballistics should be able to defillade over the intervening cover. energy weapons should actually be really punished by their direct los. so those clan pulse boats should actually have a really great time chewing up hillsides and never actually hurting a vee, until the lucky shot that FINALLY hits the turret.maybe /btg/ could dope up some cool 'hull down' rules...
>>98195838Well they certainly seem to be trying to sell me vehicle forcepacks and they sure as shit are not going to do that with battlefield support rules.
>>98195808>which would otherwise totally block line of sight to them?No, hull down means just the turret is exposed. At best it would be like a mech standing behind terrain 1 level higher than them.
>>98195877What the hell are you talking about?
>>98195877Vehicles are 1 level high, that's why they're hull down if they're behind a half level. A vehicle that is half way up the slope between level 0 and level 1 would equally have just it's turret exposed. The same logic applies to mechs, a mech taking a knee is hull down if it would normally get partial cover from being behind level 1.
Huh. Never knew before that "Plenty of Room in the Nebula California" added a Halo-inspired region to it.
>>98195841>>98195862Remember, don't run your vees like you're trying to defend the Fulda Gap - run them like you're trying to save your school ship.
I wonder how much Clanner influence changed the initiation rituals for the Brotherhood of Randis? For example instead of getting a Griffin to step on someone for the test of courage they changed it so a female elemental would sit on their face?
>>98195926
>>98195841The hull down rules are actually decent already, they just basically never apply. For normal sized vehicles they require either half levels or a prepared position which are not things in normal games on normal mapsheets. Biped mechs also don't want to do it since they need to take a PSR to get up, so the mechanic is relegated to quads, which is dumb. Just making it so a vehicle can spend the 2MP required to go hull down to deliberately expose its turret above Level 1 terrain, which would both allow it to shoot and allow it to be shot would be a very minor tweak that would make vehicles much more playable on the current mapsheets that are covered in hills.
>>98195926Who is the autistic floof of Battletech?
>>98196190Doesn't the PSR to stand from Hull Down have no fall risk to it? If you fail you just don't stand. Broadly it keeps you from taking a knee without any risk, but the only risk is having to stay put.I am inclined to agree that some kind of defilade rule would at least make hull down more practical for vehicles on standard mapsheets; something like:Vehicles may go Hull Down as part of a move to a higher level matching the terrain they are moving from, exposing only their turret over the crest of a hill. As this defilade position is not as protective as prepared fortifications or hardened cover, choose up to three contiguous adjacent hexes that are at least one level lower than the destination hex. The vehicle in that hex benefits from its Hull Down position only from attacks crossing those hexes.That said, Hull Down general strikes me as a niche rule outside of defenders that should have more options for protection and scenarios that let them place prepared positions solve this more elegantly.
>>98196366On the other hand, I'm including hull down in my rules packet because it also works as a ghetto version of careful stand; so eh.
>>98195516Wait I went over this once. >in 2025 adjusted for inflation the conversion for a C-bill is roughly $14>this would put a locust at roughly the cost of $21 million dollars to purchase >compared to a modern tank that could have a purchase price of around $4-$6 million on the higher end>and for higher end mechs or omni mechs will outdo modern fighter jets in cost a madcat being almost double an f-35 per unitShould also be mentioned that during the succession wars your chances of buying a brand new mech are basically slim to none, great house militaries don't operate in the same way as modern militaries(especially when military equipment might have to be supplied by their own soldiers), and the amount of other costs of running a battlemech are going to factor in(maintenance, storage, transport, ammunition, taxes).
>>98196382>>compared to a modern tank that could have a purchase price of around $4-$6 million on the higher endM1A2 SEPv1 costs $17 million per, just for clarity.
Fuck it, really dumb vehicle design challenge:>Make a vehicle that uses an engine rating within ~10% of your weight (pounds or kilograms) rounded to the nearest 5.>Example: Someone who weighs 200 pounds // 91 kilograms would need to use an engine of some kind with a rating somewhere between 180 and 220 OR 80 and 100.>Can be a Mech, Support Vehicle, Tank, or whatever else you want. Can even be a support or outright civilian vehicle rather than battlefield.Challenge Mode:Roll a d10 and you have to design it in one of the following Eras depending on your result:>1: Age of War (Pre-2570)>2: Star League (2570-2780)>3: 1st and 2nd Succession Wars (2781-2865)>4: 3rd Succession War (2866-3027)>5: Renaissance (3028-3049)>6: Clan Invasion (3050-3061)>7: Civil War (3062-3067)>8: Jihad (3068- 3080)>9: Republic Era (3081-3130)>10: Dark Age // IlClan (3131+)
>>98196458Ironically lower end mechs can be just slightly above that while tanks in the setting would be far about that. A patton for example comes out to around $38 million.
>>98195516>battlemechs are supposed to be crazy expensiveSkill issue
>>98195018Well apparently the 2nd Galedon was in the area at the same time roughly, so I guess that’s an option. I’m still using Pesht for the lights at least though.>>98195020Militia auxiliaries attached to the 7th would simplify things painting-wise, though I feel like having a militia unit significantly heavier than the regiment it’s attached to sounds kinda silly. Like imagine a Grand Dragon and an Akuma having to follow orders from some guy in a Rokurokubi. I guess I figured a merc company would make more sense for such an odd setup.I did kinda want to stick to the Merc idea desu, because through sheer serendipity my hometown (which I was going to name the mercs after) shares its name with an in-universe captain of an unnamed merc company, and she even has a jap first name. It’s just such an odd coincidence that it feels too good to pass up.
>>98196484The Patton/Rommel does have an extravagant fusion engine. There's a reason the Axel exists, and it's only partially licensing issues.
>>98196496Which does imply the fusion engine only really adds around $14 million in cost.
>>98196507It's not like fusion engines are experimental or anything. They're hard to make at the galactic scale necessary to supply every combat vehicle (thus ripping them out of lesser vehicles to keep stronger ones or mechs running in some cases) but they're well understood and reliably built once the infrastructure is in place.
>>98196366>Doesn't the PSR to stand from Hull Down have no fall risk to it? If you fail you just don't stand. Broadly it keeps you from taking a knee without any risk, but the only risk is having to stay put.Yes that's correct.
>>98195754Salary rates. As in amount earned for the entire year. You're telling me that minimum wage could be less than a single C-Bill a day. Just how valuable is a C-Bill anyway?
>>98196232My cat.
>>98196788A C-bill is precisely as valuable as 1 millisecond of text-only HPG transmission within the range of a single HPG.
Okay lads, some years since I last posted here becuse we had some namefaggots doing faggy things here. I just want to know if in the lore there has been some cool shit in those years, did the timeline get something interesting? any new cool mech? Ddi the taurians do anything post jihad or they are still dispersed?
>>98196938There's been a gas shortage and a flock of seagulls. That's about it.
>>98196938Clanners are not racist toward their own trueborns, princesses are now trannies and the latest lore piece is a "romance novel" targeted at non-gamer woemyn who hate gamers and games.
>>98196970>clanners are notClanners are now*
>>98196970>>98197010It upsets me that I can't call this out as hyperbolic shitposting.
>>98197016Welcome to CGL?
>>98196970>>98197016...What.
>>98197043Exactly.
I'm still waiting the nonb bait answer.Pls.
>>98197069Anons here can link you the details, and while I would also tag that response as bait, it is equally true.For instance, the romance novel is titled "Hungry like the Wolf" and you can look that one up yourself.The specific lore bits containing a black clan trueborn warrior who is complaining about her clan and fellow trueborns being raycis ytboi honkies (despite that clan and their scientists choosing to make her black on purpose) and the lore containing the transvestite "princess" are not pieces I am more than passingly familiar with, I am quite certain they are both written by Bryan Young.
>>98197084Dang, so its even worse than I expected. Not any change in the time line then, no cool stuff in the last 5 years or so?
>>98197097The state of the lore is such that I decided "Fuck it, the year is 3025, forever"
>>98197105Shit, then anyone recomends any good AU/Good fanfic? Because I want some fun if not good mech on mech violence and I wanted to read some shit from even cgl, but the wolf stuff sounds incredible lame.
>>98197118Lol, did you look up the cover art?
>>98197129>Hungry like the WolfNo, I haven't looked at it....WHY CGL WHY. I TOUGHT IT WAS A LAME ASS WOLF WOLFING WOLF OR SOME SHIT NOT A LITERAL ARLEQUINE NOVEL.
>>98197152>WHYBecause their goal as a company is to ruin gaming for straight white male gamers and instead make the game "accessible" to anyone who is not any of those things.
>>98197069Despite how assine and insane it sounds anon isn't making shit up.
>>98197164>>98197158Why are at the level a shitty 2010 baito post are factual, true stuff companies do. Do they hate money? Charly, that's an exellent taste in memes.
>>98197184they like to destroy our nice things more than they like money.
>>98197158Nah, the plan is to do something that can demonstrate that they make line go up. The company in question isn't rich enough to entertain plans regarding making life worse for everybody. You at least gotta be traded on the stock market to get to that level.Also the only writer that will work for free is the guy who would rather write Shadowrun, where all the gay and racism stuff would be totally okay and appropriate. So he writes BT like Shadowrun.
>>98197184We honestly have no clue at this stage what their plan is. Frankly if you hear something so absurd so out of this world that you think it has to be clearly some kind of shitpost the chances are it is actually going to be true when it comes to current Battletech. You were around for Battletech Gothic right?
>>98197214Not in the thread but I did see the shitstorm in twitter.I still disbelive they did plastics for that. What was the intention behind it when so many machines are still in metal.
>>98197232>What was the intention behind it when so many machines are still in metal.....about that
>>98197232>What was the intention behind it when so many machines are still in metal."pump and dump" is what they were thinking
Why did Victor have his cum stolen twice? Why is cum theft so common in battletech?
>>98195754That's an obvious candidate for errata due to a typo for slaves. They can't earn a salary by definition. If they earn money then they're employees, not slaves.
>>98197457It's the roman style where you earned a wage and it could be put toward your freedom.
>>98195926What's a Fulda Gap? I assume it's some degenerate sex thing, but I've never heard of it.
>>98197164IIRC the trashy BT romance novel started out as a joke, but enough people said they kind of wanted to read it that they actually wrote it. And it apparently sold well enough it might get a sequel.
>>98197209>So he writes BT like Shadowrun....Should they just let Bryan do Battlerun?
>>98197158>ruin gaming for straight white male gamersNothing of value is lost. Gaming was always our hobby, not yours. Go drink beer and play sportsball and be racist and abuse your wives. This is our space.
>>98197457It actually is a typo, anon, but not for the reason you think. Marian slaves are Roman-style, where they are required to be given some small money they can eventually use to buy their release. That's on brand and thematic for them. The MOC was also supposed to have a cultural section where it was explained that the MOC is so "free" that they allow people to sell themselves into slavery, and again, require a "buy back" cost so the voluntary slave can buy themselves out. But they decided they didn't want to do that, cut that section from the MOC chapter, and forgot to remove the table reference. So it's actually a 100% legit error that it's on the table, and it's been officially errata'd away. The MOC having "slaves" is just a canonical a statement as saying that shots against a target in partial cover use the Punch table. It's wrong, and you'd be considered an idiot for refusing to abide by the errata.
>>98197457Indentured servants are considered slaves by modern standards but got paid. Immigrant workers held in camps where the locks are on the outside of the fence are also generally considered slaves but still get paid (a pittance). Slaves saving up to buy themselves out of slavery wasn't unheard of in many slave holding societies. Chattel slavery where the slaves are legally similar to livestock is actually a pretty big outlier.
>>98197466>He has never heard of the Fulda GapHave you not studied the cold war like ever?
>>98197501It would make more sense for them to have debt slaves and indentured servants, those are things that got regulated out of existence, but the MOC are not very big on the kind of economic regulations that prevent such things.
>>98197512I don't really care much about history. It's boring. Sci Fi is at least fun. I imagine it's a boomer reference then, if it's about the cold war?
>>98197519Also company store'd workers. Those cybernetic cat ears aren't paying for themselves, and making workers buy and pay off their own equipment is a classic laissez faire kind of move. Also plays into their sleazy cyberpunk space vegas vibes.
>>98197541>>98197519These are cool ideas and I wish CGL had had the balls to put them in the books. They all probably would have gotten shot by Valk though, so I can understand why they cut it out. A faction that's advertised as being about freedom having legal slavery without any explanation is really strange and don't make a lot of sense.
>>98197556It would also give them more internal friction. For the majority of the playable timeline, the only internal conflict they had was whether they should send their entire military to die for Capellan interests or only most of it. Now that they're helping the Anduriens backstab the Capellans, they don't even have that. With more prominent skeezy elements the possibility of reforms and trying to contain it can be story elements. They could have gone all the way up to some kind of civil war with corporate mercenaries fighting to keep their extremely exploitative systems in place, or just kept it as a low broil, knives out kind of conflict where MIM and augmented corpo agents try to outplay each other to expose or hide ongoing and recently de-legalized activities.
The green mech with the belly button and a dick needs a name
>>98197575
>>98197575Wallace.
>>98197536Its the place where if the cold war went hot then you would have seen one of the largest tank battles that would ever happen.
The Urbanmech if it was good
>>98197481While I don't entirely mind taking the piss out of the /pol/tard, I'm not sure how the buxom catgirl in a skin-tight jumpsuit follows.
>>98197590I'd even make a statement that is also a bit like a Panther for the modern battlefield. Its cheap, can be churned out in numbers, its fast enough to keep up with the modern heavies considering a lot of them are 5/8 and it can deliver meaningful firepower since it can effectively slice a Kit Fox in two with a single shot and even cause problems for something like a Hellbringer. Even if you are running the LBX10 version its damned good mobile fire support.
>>98197614Giant Stompy Robots draw all types.
Where should Meklab/MekHQ customs be saved? I can't seem to see the folder for units.
Someone upload the unabridged audiobook of Wolves on the Border plz.
Is there a list of mechs that use the full head ejection system?
>>98197645I think you can just save them to mekfiles, with actual Campaign Customization going into a customs folder in there.
>>98197655MekBay > Filter > Features > "Full Head Ejection System"
>>98197501>>98197519>where it was explained that the MOC is so "free" that they allow people to sell themselves into slavery12 Years a Voluntary Slave.They clearly have a pretty severe debt bondage system, considering that humanity in general considers being borg'd up kinda disgusting and the MoC clearly are doing it to their whores. And to a pretty severe degree at that. Like they probably amputate whore's legs to make those centaur cyborgs.You ain't walking away from that, as they say.
>>98197637... Yeah alright fair enough.
>>98197699You are mangling a bunch of stuff. The cyborg prostitutes are not typical, that's what makes them a draw even in space thailand. The real explanation is that the writers only sort of understood how BDSM works
>>98197817Exists as a mutation. People in BT think it's disgusting.
>>98197839As much as I hate to open that can of worms, it's best not to think too much about Battletech and sexuality. These are the same writing teams that decided the Clans must have legal and sanctioned sexworkers in an already ultra-sexually-liberal society-- all without processing the implications of having a sex-labor cast position, that may be assigned to you after washing out of other positions or be your bred-for purpose for which you will receive the minimum medical services necessary for your work and that you will be expected to provide without pay.
>>98197854>Clans must have legal and sanctioned sexworkersSource?
>>98197906It's from an interview with Brian Young.
>>98197912So it doesn't actually appear in the lore? Got it, thanks.
>>98197912Amending my washed out Elemental turned espionage agent PC to also be a prostitute, thanks.
>>98197912>Interview >Not a novel>Not even a sourcebookMmmmmkkkk buddy.
>>98197906As you can see, this guy is so puritan brained his mind completely bounces off the concept of positive representation of sex work, so he immediately makes up the worst possible interpretation and glosses over that the caste modifier means the highest status people in the clan OZs.
>>98197912This doesn't say what you think it does, anon...
>>98197929>Amending my washed out Elemental turned espionage agent PC to also be a prostitute, thanks.See that works!Warriors taking Bodyguard gigs as a side hustle, not really aware that they are also serving as another kind of escort.
>>98197937The irritating part is that sexwork itself is antithetical to Clan society; not because they demonize sex; it's quite the opposite. There's no stigma to it or contraceptives; they go at it like rabbits and 'accidents' are vanishingly uncommon thanks to the stigma of being freebirth.Similarly sexwork doesn't make sense because thanks to that massive supply, its hard to imagine someone not being able to get some if they want some without having to go looking. This is speculation as I don't know very many novels or stories that follow the lives of labor caste members, but it would seem to be reasonable that they'd shack up fairly commonly in their limited leisure time. >>98197944We're going to use a word called 'synthesis' today. It means taking two or more ideas and putting them together to produce a combined idea that follows from them.The clans have a work-caste based society where populations are divided based on the tasks they are expected to do for the clan and given privileges and responsibilities according to the prestige of their work.If Clan Sea Fox opened up a brothel of clanners; they would not be volunteers. They would be assigned to be whores; they would have no recourse if they did not want to do this work other than to ask to be reassigned or Trial of Grievance.That's not positive representation of sex work, that's reinventing sex slavery from first principles.
>>98197990>sexwork itself is antithetical to Clan societyHow? How the fuck do you miss that the clan under discussion is the selling stuff to spheroids clan?
>>98197937The idea that the notoriously brutal and very, very worker unfriendly clans would make all kinds of special exceptions for just this one kind of work (which they have no cultural stigmas or compunctions about in the first place) so that it's not as fucked up as every single other form of labor they engage in is why the idea is retarded.The clans will make you work a 13 hour shift with a pickaxe in a sooty hole in the ground and then shoot you when you can't work anymore. The clans respond to the phrase "I don't want to do my job" the same way they respond to "Die, tyrant! Death to the star league! Death to Kerensky! Amaris forever!"They don't hold sex on a pedestal for any other purpose, and they don't allow workers to challenge the caste they were placed in unless they are specifically trying to become a Warrior. That's not a good society to add sex work to, because they'll treat it the same way they treat all work.
>>98197999Is that supposed to be better? "They're not pimping them out amongst themselves, they're selling their ass --willing or otherwise-- to foreigners?"Honestly that's on me, expecting you to hold two ideas in your head at once was a stretch; I should have just told you that its once removed from human trafficking and let your parole officer explain the rest.
The stupider part is that BT doesn't even have examples of "negative sex work". Canopus is Canopus, Kooken's is specifically regulated so hard that organized crime left the industry entirely, and even the fat bastard himself put a double-wide cockpit in his beemer for his favorite prostitutes, not trafficked sex slaves.Literally every example out there is either positive or not described in enough detail to say whether it's good or bad.
>>98198027all whoredom is negative, you filthy degenerate.
>>98198047Not by the way Brian "likes em" Young uses it.
>>98198008You know this setting so well! The Ghost Bears and Sea Foxes in 3150 probably treat their lower orders exactly the same as the Smoke Jaguars did in 3049. We should flat out ignore authors giving interviews about how they want to make clan society less villainous. >>98198009If you are such a yokel that you are uncomfortable with per-marital sex being depicted positively just say that. Don't pretend to be worldly and then repeat stuff your pastor has told you.
>>98198053degenerate filthy commie kid rapers don't get an opinion.
>>98198057>We should flat out ignore authors giving interviews about how they want to make clan society less villainous.Until they actually loosen their caste restrictions, this is not possible. The caste system is essentially slavery for everyone except the Warriors (and even they are more like the overseer slaves than owners). They are not compensated for their work and are not free to leave or refuse their assignments. They receive food and shelter and an assigned partner they are required to breed with. Possessing currency is an explicit capital offense for anyone whose assignment is not related to using currency with outside factions. None of this has changed and as per the most recent fluff, is being actively imposed upon the Terran population by Clan Wolf.
>>98198074Not to mention, we specifically are told in the fluff that the clanners had a mega conservative movement to preserve their culture in the DA and retreated to their own little reservations to limit IS contamination. ilClan is less than 5 years after that material. Trying to force ilClan without maximum rebelling is why they're trying to retcon sand the rough edges off the clanners, which is retarded. Ironically, forcing the use of Clan names on machines again after Clan warriors using IS designations since the 3060's also indicates the exact opposite.
>>98198057Making Clanners less villainous by giving them a caste of sex slaves that they pimp out to Spheroids seems counter productive.
>>98198057It doesn't surprise me that you don't understand the nuance between being sold to strangers to be raped and the business between consensual adults; but it does astound me that you'd broadcast this deficiency quite so proudly.
>>98198074bryan 'i rape my kids and turned them both tranny' young isn't an author. he is simple the commie serf who will work for the lowest, most rediculous slave anti-wages, so he can push his commie slop.
>>98197912>We need more positive representation of sex work in BattleTech.Why? No, seriously, why? People like this always say crap like this and say it in a way that we're all supposed to just nod our heads and agree with them, but they never answer the question, why?Why does BattleTech need positive representation of sex work Brian Young?Why does a tabletop game that people play after work to relax need sex work representation Brian Young?
>>98198100The best part is it's not just warrior faildowns but regular ass people. You get tested for your optimal job before assignment. Remember what happened to Grimm when they were making his fat ass run around tracks to determine his placement and all that? So just imagine being dude of conquered planet X, and being told. "You test very well as a male prostitute. Hop to it, sunshine." For women, right? Right?
>>98198120And also why the amount we already have isn't enough.
>>98198115>consensualCaste isn't chosen.
>>98198120they won't answer the question because the only answer is "to fuel MY political ideological agenda even in places where it isn't welcome"
>>98198125Or why it has to be in a positive light. It's like saying "we need more positive lawyer representation" when lawyers are the entire spectrum of absolute ambulance chaser to probono hero. It's just like being gay isn't a virtue. I want to see more gay villains struck down. Where's that representation?>inb4 Devlin Stone
>>98198123I had joked about it, but I think the only way I could accept "glorious clan trueborn condemned to getting railed by lowly Spheroid freebirths for the rest of their life" as something anyone should be rooting for is if the entire Clan-adjacent prostitution industry is a front for their respective intelligence teams.
>>98198152>their respective intelligence teams.Dude, the Watch recruited Nikolai Malthus. They're not that deep.
>>98198156Maybe the super obvious and inappropriate "spy" is a ruse to make you think exactly that.
>>98198100>caste of sex slaves>less villainous
>>98198175>I_have_the_exact_image_for_that.hpg
>>98197678What the fuck is an agrotera?
>>98198193A slightly heavier phoenix hawk from the dark age that looks like a cross between a megazord and a gundam
>>98198193Filthy MoC dark magic.
>>98198193One of the half dozen or so Phoenix Hawky mechs.
I think the light and heavy machine guns were a mistake
>>98198224All of Sidegrade City is a mistake.
>>98198127Yes, you imbecile, which is why it would not be a positive representation of sex work, you moron.
Other than the Fire Moth, which mech do you use for the Elementals delivery?
>>98198386Black Hawk. Plenty firepower. Plenty jump.
>>98198386Phantom E. Very BV efficient, surprisingly good availability in latter eras.
>>98198316Hey now, I read the term "consensual adults" in 2026 and it immediately gives the impression of the liberal position.I'm sure that's something that anyone can understand.
>>98198316There are no positive representations of sex work. Sex work (Whoring) isn't a positive thing. Dumb bitch whores keep trying to push this angle and it's clearly just because they have a guilty conscience. The more they push it, the worse they get.She had a complete mental breakdown after her 1,000 fucks in a single day event. I pity her.
>>98198526Consent is a liberal construct anyway. Women are there to be taken and used and disposed of.
