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Brewboy Edition

>Community Links:
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>10th/11th Edition Rules
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>Games Workshop/Citadel Miniatures painting guides (1989-2016)
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>Previous Thread:
>>98198965

>thread question:
would be willing to share a pint (or participate in some other such recreational activity) with /yourdudes/?
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>>98201610
>Imperium of Man is featured on the Villains wiki
>Tau Empire is not
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Tome Keepers - failed marketing cringe or rare display of love from people stuck in a corporate hell?
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>>98201623
no one cares frognigger
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I like orks :D
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>>98201626
>half their characters are brown and/or named Mamumad
Genuine display of hobby love marred by corpo globo homo DEI mandates
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This and an HQ should be enough to play a 750pts game. Why 750pts? Because 1500pts should be "the" standard.
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>>98201634
>I like or-ACK!
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>>98201641
Iirc they took a lot of inspiration from the bronze age middle-east history.
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>>98201643
ravenwing battleforce was never even 500 points
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most poddles
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>>98201623
>Villains wiki
>no Rapeman
As it should be.
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>>98201662
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>>98201653
I never said it was.
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>>98201644
>make a good upscaled mk7
>never use it again

>>98201643
Based
>>98201653
>most literate 4chan user
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So, why did the mutant leave? Carnac or Ben came back? How come the "rule of one" is so strong?
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>>98201688
you dont even know what carnac was
stop trying to make everything about your incessant need for thread pariahs you fucking faggot
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>>98201644
Ngl this sculpt is kinda cool, but they should have kept it as close to the original art as possible and it would have been 10/10
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>>98201688
I think mentioning it should be a bannable offense too. You're obviously shitposting.
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>>98201690
Yeah, I'm constantly conflating him with Ben, but apparently they were two separate "persons" that also followed the rule of one
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>>98201688
he got permabanned and mods finally just put in the effort to chase him off and punish him for his constant ban evasion. its really that simple. now the thread can heal until the next chronic shitposter. Most likely they wont be as bad.

MODS ARE GODS.
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>>98201688

>"Anonymous" message board
>Constantly obsessed with individual shitposters

What was even the point, Moot
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Astronauts
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>>98201721
It wasn't a problem when we had 200 unique IPs or more per thread. But now we're fewer than half that number. The regulars that have been posting daily for years are bound to recognize each other by language and talking points alone, even without accounts or thread IDs.
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>>98201734
based
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>>98201738
>But now we're fewer than half that number.
I don't know why it makes me sad.
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>>98201738
Yeah it's even easier with modelposters
Just their workspaces are easy enough to tell apart
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>>98201749
Hopefully like the Elves we're going somewhere better.
>>98201754
This. I recognized one dude in the TC thread, for instance.
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>>98201749
board is dying nigga
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>>98201610
/mydudes/ would probably be pretty cool to share a pint with
for a mon-keigh
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Are races and ethnicities a thing in 40k
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>>98201731
is there an archive of previous collages? I doubt people remember the themes but still.
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>>98201683
>>make a good upscaled mk7
It's not mk7. It's just mk10 with some bits shaved off.
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>>98201778
For humans? It basically only comes up by homeworlds or "type" of homeworld, like Hiveworlders versus Shrineworlders versus Deathworlders. The only racial feature anyone ever calls out is Cadians and their unique eye color but even that has fallen hy the wayside as fewer "Cadians" are descendents of their original world now.
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>>98201786
That month was spooky
We did have an archive but someone had a hissyfit and deleted it.
This one was jetpack
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>>98201734
If only the community can temper their expectations to be as realistic as how Votannfags expect things.
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>>98201734
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>>98201792
So what they're disgusting mutts
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I need some Tyranid experts here.
In the novel Shadowbreaker, the Inquisition and the Tau work on a joint project to create Tau genestealer-hybrids and then feed them to the hive fleets. It's believed that Tau genes would then poison the Tyranids since Tau are not psykers, which would then break up the Hivemind.

Would it have worked?
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>>98201793
I believe this was hover/bikes
>>98201731
This was kitbashes
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>>98201804
*sexy mutts
Fixed
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>>98201811
There's nothing sexy about the characters being racial ambiguous
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>>98201778
Seeing that both white europeans and africans exist in 40k, yes.

Realistically none of the modern day races would exist in 40k at all due to genetic drift and all that. Like us humans did not look the same as we do now 40 000 years ago, we won't look the same 40 000 years into the future.
Also in 40k there was the 1st solar exodus, the first time humanity sent colony ships away from earth to colonize distant planets, most of these populations on the colony ships would've stayed in genetic isolation for centuries if not thousands of years just during their voyage to the planet they wanted to colonize.
Nevermind when they did finally get to their destination, which would most likely have environments very different from earth, which would cause them to start evolving in different directions causing them to gain different traits.
So arguably the term "human" would be very broad and very vague, in the 41st millenium since realistically humans would be an extremely varied species by then.

And then there was the Age of Strife which also cut off humanity off from one another for around 5000-6000 ish years give or take. Which would have enforced more genetic drift.
And we do some of these results of genetic isolation + drift in 40k, they are the abhumans like ogryns, ratlings, longshanks and squats.
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Chaos deserves plastic Decimators.
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>>98201790
>some bits shaved off
>which?
>all
Might as well be mk7
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>>98201828
>realistically
nta but humans weren't created by magic space frogs in our reality, so we can toss our understanding of evolution in the bin for this
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>>98201836
>fire vision goggles
kek, he's having fun
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>>98201823
My penis disagrees with your assessment.
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>>98201842
>Everything looks exactly the same
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>>98201828
>Like us humans did not look the same as we do now 40 000 years ago, we won't look the same 40 000 years into the future.
What if we do to the point I'm secretly a space alien from 50,000 years ago?
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>>98201833
Agree. Its a Based FW model though so the mainline design studio will ignore it in favour of fleshy mounds of cancerous flesh and dinobots (I love my maulerfiends)
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>>98201834
Not all.
The backpack actually has the same circles as primaris backpacks, also has the more rounded shape on the top of it as well.
The thigh armor on the model is what mk10 has.
It also has the ankle balls of mk10.
Same goes for the power armor foot/boot as well.

It's not mk7 and never was.
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How would you guys rate the primarchs from best to worst
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>>98201778
Ironically only the Eldar have clear ethnic and racial divides of any species in the galaxy
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>>98201857
angron > sanguinius > horus > the rest aren't even worth mentioning
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>>98201838
>old ones created humanity
Slop, therefore not canon. End of discussion.
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>>98201833
I wonder if I'll get it eventually.
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>>98201786
I have all the ones I was in saved, going in order
>July - Elites
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>>98201880
>August - Characters
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>>98201856
>powerpack
Very mk7
>thigh armor
mkX has the extra plates, this one does not
>ankle balls & boots
Nobody's perfect
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I'm brewing a 1000pts list for the 11E launch. By 10E points, this should be about 950pts. Should I swap Assault Terminators for another Bike bubble?

Captain (80pts): Warlord
10x Tactical Squad (140pts)
Rhino (75pts)

Chaplain on Bike (75pts)
6x Bike Squad w/ 1x Attack Bike [Legends] (215pts)

Librarian in Terminator Armour (75pts)
5x Terminator Assault Squad (180pts)

Land Speeder [Legends] (80pts)
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>>98201833
>>98201854
>>98201877
How will they fuck it up?
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>>98201731
September - Kitbashes
>>98201786
October - Spooky
>>98201793
November - Flying/Hover stuff

December - Terrain
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>>98201828
>humans did not look the same as we do now 40,000 years ago
I raise you Gav Thorpe who resembles a museum exhibit of what Homo erectus would look like in modern clothing
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>>98201809
January - Mounted

February - Big Guns
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>>98201883
That's still just a mk10 backpack.
It's just a shaved down mk10 and nothing more.
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>>98201899
It looks great and wasn't used outside of it, which is weird & sad
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March - Big Stick
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>>98201890
>>98201833
What's up with this weapon option, is it good or just a meme? Also why did they slap Hazardous on it
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>>98201893
He looks more like a neanderthal.
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April - Dead Space Wolves/Crucible character
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>>98201909
You know what, that's fair.
That would also place him at 40000 years ago too
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>>98201908
I'd say check the OG profile from when it came out.
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And last months, which was big dudes.
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Its over, mike brooks, I've already depicted you as the basedjak and myself as the gigachad
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>>98201916
How though
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>>98201884
too many characters. one is plenty
abstaining from numarines is laudable, but very bad for the scars. legends biker vets are heinously overpriced, and regular bikers are not good at cc. you would be much better off cribbing ravenwings rules.
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>>98201913
The buck that broke the Mutant's back
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>>98201925
From what I can find, 6th ed weapon profiles
Doesn't look half bad
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>>98201953
>bespoke special rules depending on your God of choice
Holy sovl...
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>>98201904
This was a Good one
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>>98201904
>chaos lord in saturnine armor
modern s o v l
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What is the standard process for marines to become chaplains
beyond just the judiciar pipeline they introduced in 9th
do they need to be veterans first or anything
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>>98202008
They need to be seen as worthy and then they spend a lot of time as assistant/apprentice in the recclusiam (not just the physical place)
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>>98202008
naw nigga they just pray especially hard into the commlink during battle and his squadmates will be like, 'damn nigga they should call you preacher' and then they become a chaplain
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>>98202008
I think it tends to be the notably zealous that get brought into the fold, the same way that tech-marines are just marines who had an above average understanding of machines.
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>niggaposter is back
I'm tired bros. It never ends, does it?
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>>98202040
Reddit might be more your speed, kiddo
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>>98201833
>Decimator
>not reducing enemies by precisely 1/10
I feel scammed.
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>>98202040
Man's can't parse how he's reached common ground with a foreigner through the use of this website.
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>>98202040
Niggaposter is harmless, sometimes he gets retarded but when he switches to nigga mode he's okay with admitting we're just being retarded and we can go super niggas together instead of arguing over warhammer 40k
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My photography skills are lacking. But through Kill Team I've started the beginnings of an army
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>>98202066
Nigga, dat sounds fukn retarded.
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>>98201919
making a diorama that included text for a collage wasn’t the brightest of ideas in hindsight.
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>>98201936
The point of this project is to finally utilize tons of old-Marines kits I have in my collection. I want to pick one of the 1st Founding chapters and slowly build and expand an army as a kind of a love letter for original Marines.
I already have a sizeable Dark Angels army with "Firstborn" Marines models only I hate this nu-term honestly but many of them are simply proxies for Primaris Marine units. I'm a bit tired of jumping through the hoops to keep my force "legal" and "compatible" with editions changing every 3 years.
With this army I want to focus primary on the build-and-paint aspect of the hobby. Competitiveness is important of course since losing every single game eventually kills any enthusiasm for the project BUT I want to find the most optimal builds for models I already have rather than add units I don't like because they perform well.
I haven't settled on any particular chapter yet but I have 10 Bikers and 2 Attack Bikes leftover I bought for my Dark Angels ages ago. I'm avoiding painting white as much as possible but I thought it may be a good excuse to finally give it a try.
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>>98202033
>>98202040
>>98202081
I don’t know what’s funnier, the image of him being a black thug who actually types like that, or a pasty white nerd. could the niggaposter please post his skin color so I know what I can envision you as?
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>>98202040
sorry anon, I respect my black kings, and welcome the niggaposter with open arms.
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>>98202040
anon, people have been using that word since before you first opened this website
it's not that uncommon
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHFzyFMT0pw
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>>98202081
Nigga maybe dat shit sound fkn' retarded cuz a mudafukin' Nigga's hearin' dat shit, you'z ever thought'o dat Nigga?
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>>98201650
>white scars come along and ruin their whole chapter
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>>98202008
Diomedes was captain of the honor guard before becoming a chaplain, there was a degree of penance for the results of the Aurellian crusade that caused him to enter the reclusiam
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>>98201890
It would be a 30k model and it's not a marine so chances are it would be a faithful recreation like the tanks and dreads.
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Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
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>>98202240
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>>98201626
What's their story?
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>>98201836
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>>98201662
Can I see your bases from above?
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Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
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Test
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>>98201836
>>98202259
>he kept the purple
god bless you, anon.
thanks doc
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>>98202271
please don’t be a shitposter…
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>>98201836
>>98202280
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmyk1xtKBto
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>>98202245
Why did they shill for TFA?
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>>98202302
Because they're old star trek retards and should've never been taken seriously
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>>98202302
To make you seeth, bald boy!
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I really hope we get a Savlor Chem Dog killteam one day. Is there anyway to convert them now the cadians moved away from the legs - torso split? Always had a liking of them for some reason
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>>98202261
basically like this
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>>98202318
More gas masks are always cool, but wouldn't such a team be functionally identical to Blooded? They've got a commissar, drugs, and violence as faction rules.
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>>98202330
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>>98202302
they loved JJ Abrams for Star Trek 2009, and they love Star Trek far more than they could ever love Star Wars, so they naturally shilled the Star Trek guy, ignoring all the problems with TFA because they didn’t really care for Star Wars.
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Added glitter flakes from Vallejo game color silver to try and tie the splotchy blue/purple/turquoise into a nebula look
Looks better in person
Trim to be done later after work
Emperor have mercy
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>>98202356
rad
iridescent sparkle stuff is a lot of fun, i have the full range of AV's ground-up-gay-people shifter shit and even mixed in directly with other pigments of paint and underneath severe weathering and finishing and such little flecks of it glimmer and shine gorgeously

in-person is requisite to appreciate it properly for sure, need it in your fingers to rotate and get really intimate in looking at
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>>98201805
No Tyranid experts around?
Did 10th ed scare them all away?
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>>98202388
>>98201805
I really don't see how, considering that Hive Mind "decides" what material to assimilate and what to reject. Secondly, Tau DO have presence in the Warp, it's just ridiculously weak. Have you noticed how Tau don't cause the same effect on people around them as Blanks? Exactly. Third of all, post-Gathering Storm lore is bad and you should never ever touch it. Ever.
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>>98201778
They aren’t even a thing irl
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>>98201778
Yes my Guard regiment have light blue skin from all the silver in the air of their planet
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>>98202347
>loved JJ Abrams for Star Trek 2009
The problem was here all along.
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>>98202330
>>98202344
I'm going for a similar thing with my IG force but I'm still workshopping it.
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>>98202388
>>98201805
This is some retarded shit that misunderstands both Tyranids *and* Tau biology.

>Problem 1: Tau are not psychic blanks. They do not have a null warp presence, just an extremely weak one that generally makes the reward of taking their souls not worth it for Daemons. Tau-Genestealer hybrids are not new, they are established in lore, and it is established that they are a poor fit for a Genestealer Cult as their weak psychic presence means even when psyker latency is forcibly written into their genetics via Genestealer hybridization, the resulting Broodmind will not give a strong signal for attracting a Hive Fleet.
>Problem 2: The Hive Mind doesn't just mindlessly take genetic material and re-use it wholesale. It chooses what genetic code is useful and what isn't, and it has been eating humans enough to already know of the null gene and it hasn't done anything with it. So even if the above weren't true and Tau are suddenly retconned into being low-grade psychic nulls, it wouldn't affect anything.
>Problem 3: Even if literally all of this repeatedly established lore is wrong and this one instance of a contracted author with a slipshod understanding of the setting was somehow right - Tyranids are numbered in the uncountable. Even if this results in null genetics working their way into the Tyranid Biomass ecosystem that it somehow can't identify, isolate, and expel, and starts to disrupt portions of the psychic signals from every Tyranid that make up the Hive Mind... this plan is effectively to try and poison all the fish on a planet by pissing in the ocean.
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>>98201626
Actually a killer colour scheme for a non-legion chapter. Looks like shit when though when you do "codex compliant" colours for the other companies but that's not their fault.
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>>98201805
No that's fucking retarded. The Tyranids do not just stick whatever genes into their entire race willy nilly, the norn queens are biological supercomputers that bioengineer the Hive Fleets and they test everything in tiny batches and never ever remake a whole Hive Fleet with one set of genes. Tyranids also have been eating Tau already since 3rd edition lore and never once has it come up that this would negatively affect them.
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>>98202432
>this plan is effectively to try and poison all the fish on a planet by pissing in the ocean
Is it working?
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tyranids are the best thing to ever happen to the milky way ion this setting ;^3
actual fucking shithole galaxy infested with malignant extradimensional parasites and species without number undeserving of their fetid existences

sheer biology at its ultimate zenith will fix everything
God is coming and but the barest tips of her claws are already present
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>>98202302
I suspect that what passion they had for Star Wars was largely diminished by the prequels and, by the time TFA came out, they just weren't invested in the franchise enough to give a shit like they used to. They were fine with it being a dumb Hollywood blockbuster.
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>>98202476
Be careful guys this person is very, very bald.
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>>98202490
He's a Primarch? I knew Horus and Lorgar were a genestealers the whole time. The whole Vulkan Perpetual thing is a lie, he's merely another Swarmlord respawning.
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>>98201610
Posting models
Finally managed to get the killteam raveners after them being out of stock everywhere I looked forever, I was on the verge of buying Chinacast versions
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Welcome to nu40k, in order to play you will need:
>the rules PDF
>codex
>faction pack PDF for your codex
>have to look at the community site for detatchment points for your faction.
>chapter approved mission deck
>the 93 pages event companion PDF for the terrain layouts for the freaking mission you will play depending on detatchments

how could they fuck this up so badly? i mean yeah, the MFM comes soon but that will only include the points and (hopefully) the detatchment points, so you can skip at least that community post.

you have to use 6 fucking sources or their shitty app wich will probably suck ass, as always.
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>>98202515
>action pack PDF for your codex
>have to look at the community site for detatchment points for your faction.
These are the worst for me, the rest either makes sense (codex and core rules) and the rest is superfluous
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>>98201662
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>>98202518 (me)
*the rest either makes sense OR is superfluous, sorry I kinda forgot what I was typing near the end
>>98202524
Kino
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>>98201626
Who are these guys?
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>>98201626
>"3rd company"
>Is actually 5th
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What the fuck do I do with the Marine half of Armageddon if I don't find someone to offload it to?
>Just paint it to go with my existing Salamanders and bolster their options
>Paint it up as Blood Ravens because I've painted a few marines in that color and I already have a Transfer Sheet laying around
>Choose some other chapter present on Armageddon and paint them up as that (Thinkin Crimson Fists)
>Let you guys decide how they get painted via rolling when I get the box
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>>98202186
Kek that paintjob
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>>98202539
Marines Malevolent
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>Scout 9"
>14" move with new FLY rules
>Can make an enemy take a battle shock test at the end of movement
>use three to pop a transport in the enemy's deployment
>charge everything else
I'm about to have so much fun with these things.
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>>98202494
>adeptus ridiculous
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>>98202539
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>>98202539
What every 40k slop hoarder does: rectal insertion until it becomes the states problem
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>>98202342
No, Blooded don’t have a dog.
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>>98201662
>Krieg 223rd Armoured regiment ambushed by Interdiction Cadre 4 on Uldiddast II. M42.023
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>>98202539
>Choose some other chapter present on Armageddon and paint them up as that
you know what you must do (Hint: it’s not the guys on the right)
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>>98202586
The scorpions look so cucked in this, slinking away with heads bowed. What could the Malevolent have said?
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>>98202597
>nice seed, bro. wouldn’t mind taking some of it later tonight.
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>>98202443
>>98202432
>>98202404
FYI, some missing context.
Early tests against Hive Fleet Jormungandr showed "promising results".
The Inquisitor in charge plans to use a time portal to go back in time with the hybrid Tau and infect the Tyranids before they threaten the galaxy.
The whole plan was whispered into the mind of the Inquisitor by an entity that calls itself "The herald of the Emperor" who turns out to be a daemon, but the Inquisitor isn't aware of that yet
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>>98202075
nice, I like the yellow helmet fringe.
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Can I get a Warband Review? Where can I improve? Looking to keep it 1k

Veterans of Calth (995 Points)

Chaos Space Marines
Veterans of the Long War
Incursion (1,000 Points)

CHARACTERS

Chaos Lord (105 Points)
• Warlord
• 1x Daemon hammer
• 1x Power fist
• Enhancements: Warmaster’s Gift

Master of Possession (80 Points)
• 1x Bolt pistol
• 1x Rite of Possession
• 1x Staff of possession
• Enhancements: Eager for Vengeance

BATTLELINE

Cultist Mob (50 Points)
• 1x Cultist Champion
◦ 1x Bolt pistol
◦ 1x Brutal assault weapon
• 9x Chaos Cultist
◦ 9x Autopistol
◦ 9x Brutal assault weapon

Legionaries (170 Points)
• 1x Aspiring Champion
◦ 1x Chaos Icon
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Heavy melee weapon
◦ 1x Plasma pistol
• 9x Legionary
◦ 6x Astartes chainsword
◦ 9x Bolt pistol
◦ 9x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Heavy melee weapon
◦ 1x Meltagun
◦ 1x Plasma gun

DEDICATED TRANSPORTS

Chaos Rhino (75 Points)
• 1x Armoured tracks
• 1x Combi-bolter
• 1x Combi-bolter
• 1x Havoc launcher

OTHER DATASHEETS

Chosen (125 Points)
• 1x Chosen Champion
◦ 1x Boltgun
◦ 1x Chaos Icon
◦ 1x Plasma pistol
◦ 1x Power fist
• 4x Chosen
◦ 3x Accursed weapon
◦ 3x Bolt pistol
◦ 3x Boltgun
◦ 1x Paired accursed weapons
◦ 1x Plasma pistol

Obliterators (160 Points)
• 2x Obliterator
◦ 2x Crushing fists
◦ 2x Fleshmetal guns

Possessed (120 Points)
• 1x Possessed Champion
◦ 1x Chaos Icon
◦ 1x Hideous mutations
• 4x Possessed
◦ 4x Hideous mutations

Venomcrawler (110 Points)
• 2x Excruciator cannon
• 1x Soulflayer tendrils and claws
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>>98202551
I've always been a fan. I remember playing against a knight player, and him getting really salty about how a piranha has two seeker missiles for its points cost.
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>>98201738
I’m newish since about a month ago. Played 40k wayyy back from 2000-2008 (high school and college). Kids are in elementary school, and I’ve completely lost my taste for computers, I don’t have the disposable income since having kids to have a project car anymore, but I still hunt and have enough to spend a few K a year on a hobby, and I have fond memories of 40k. Bought some krieg squads, engineers, and death riders.l to paint up. Going to go 158th regiment, but with black helmets

Any recommendations on next buys?
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>>98202663
Got to Canada for M.A.I.D.
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>>98202704
No u.
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Layer painting eldar this way takes forever but I think the purple wash really does a lot for Fire Dragons
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>>98202736
Orange with purple shadows gives the firelight feel like nothing else.
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>>98202639
Literally my mom's CSM list what do you want me to say? Run 3 Defilers and 3 Princes? You clearly know what you're doing.
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>>98201626
>sand nigger coded
>tranny coded
>no suicide units
Just more goyworkshop slop.
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>>98202639
uh yeah it's fine, list reviews are pointless because you either choose to make a reasonable list or don't, and there's nothing to say about it
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>>98202748
idk, got any resources for how to improve using this list or any thing that could be replaced? im not sure about the Eager for Vengence enhancement.
Someone once said having the Legion blob may need considering but I liked it, it held a point nicely for me against some destroyers.
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>>98202302
Astroturfed shabos, are you retarded?
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>>98202764
>got any resources for how to improve using this list or any thing that could be replaced?
Yeah, playing it.
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>>98202764
Also did I pick correct gear for them?
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Is there any faction that will actually want to just run all three of their 1DP detachments together or are they all kind of too narrow and weak?
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40k has a very low skill ceiling. Very shallow game.
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>>98202777
Yeah. It’s just there to do something with your pile of plastic and squat atop the IP revenue.
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>>98202777
heavenly trips of truth
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>>98202748
What if I don't want to run 3 defilers and 3 princes?
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>>98202793
You've just lost the game.
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this general kinda sucks
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I like orks :D
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>>98202799
YOU FUCKING SUCK
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>>98202772
Deathguard and regular Guard both have viable combos.
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>>98201634
>>98201634
>>98202801
>>98202801
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The real way to have fun in 40k is to bring lists that wreck the current meta to competitive events. The current 10th edish meta is defiler and Ctan spam, so make your list 80% anti-tank. You'll lose to people not playing meta lists or even just normal lists, but that's fine because you're only there to rape tryhards to death.
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>>98202799
>trooned out ip
>mutant retard ip holders
>consumer base is quivering soisubstitute
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>>98202823
you came here in 2020 didn't you
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>>98202829
I came in 2017 you retarded newfag
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>>98202895
>2017
>calling anybody newfag
AHAHAHAHAAAA
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>>98202895
Still an election tourist
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Does anyone have the Reign of Iron book? I really want to see what scraps of lore the Hastarii get
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>>98202799
I blame tourist, after 2016 a bunch of newfags flooded the site, and instead of witty comedy they just started focusing on canned memes and responses. But they weren't making new content or new jokes, just aping and copy pastaing. and then their negativity and attacking of actually creative people has really tanked the quality of 4chan as a whole. Fortunately I think most of them are leaving.

Which is fine by me, Maybe we can get back to being funny and creative. Less posters, means post last longer and its easier to (you farm) which means more incentives to actually effort post.
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>>98202895
>I came in summer 2017

you thought this would make us like you? AHAHAHA lmao what the fuck
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>>98202912
powder that makes you say 10 days until skittari
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>>98202270
Dude thinks he's posting a "gotcha" when it's just a twin-linked plasma pistol. XD
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>>98202270
>ai generated codex
>that will be 110 dollars please!
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>>98202930
retards can't even identify AI anymore
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>>98202930
what army would this little guy play?
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>>98202936
>Waiter! Waiter! More Space Marines please!

Is that even a question?
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>>98202515
They said detachment points and dispositions will be part of the MFM. And this is all covered by Wahapedia and New Recruit. I'm a middle aged fart who loves to have physical media but even I haven't had to actually reference my codex in ages.
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>>98202270
wtf are the wings behind the jump pack?
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>>98201786
still kinda bummed I couldn't finish my finger in time. can barely make it out on the collage :/
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>>98202942
I'm at the point where I hate Paperback rule books.

I hate that gw made me buy a codex, that has almost no new art or writting in it, for rules that are already obsolete when i buy it, just so i can go to the back scan a qr code and get access to the actual rules.

Its such a garbage system at every point
>Lazy content
>Focus on crunch
>Poorly done rules
>wasteful
>expensive.

If I were gw all the rules would be free, but every codex would be more like an Imperial armor book, with a faction overview, and then a focus on a specific campaign, the fluff behind it, lore, battle formations, army ideas, beginner tips and tricks that are army specific (hobby wise or others), High quality paint jobs, LOTS of new art (this would be the focus). And every edition the codex would be completely unique.

You'd boost model sales by lowering the cost of entry into any army, and you'd still sell codexes because people LOVE ART BOOKS AND ARTIST.

but they're dumb and some how managed to cock it all up in their greed.
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>>98202895
That is not much better, and I say that as a guy who actually got his first model in 2020.
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>>98202944
It seems they’re Maneuvering vanes of sorts.
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>>98202974
Also I'm not opposed to print out rules references on spiral bound printings. that are light and easy to flip through with indexing.


But I think they should be their own separate thing for the people that want them, (and they should have large spacing and be cheap so that people should feel able to mark them up when the rules change.) But light weight because I don't want to take a hobby guide to a tournament.
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>>98202944
the same ones on the regular jump pack.
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>>98202974
It's actually crazy how stupidly greedy they are. If they even did something mildly greedy like putting all the codex rules on their app as part of a subscription it would sell like crazy, but you have to subscribe AND buy all the books if you want to reference them.
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I kind of like the models but I get so burnt out on the constant tiny details while painting, like the small buckles, the tiny shoes and whatever, it's just tedious but I enjoy doing the large parts.
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>>98202989
born and built for the digestion pools
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>>98203007
Gross
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>>98201786
the daemon prince in the top right poorly photoshopped into a ruined city is way too funny.
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thunderhawk built n primed
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Do you paint your marines to all be part of the same company?
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I wish everyone was smart enough to work together instead of splintering, being selfish, shortsighted, and ignorant. If humanity worked together, the vast majority of problems could indeed be fixed.

Wait a minute that's true in real life too.
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I stopped posting my models and doing the collage because of the weird hate-crusade against decalbro and I'm tired of pretending I didn't.
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>>98203073
>If humanity worked together, the vast majority of problems could indeed be fixed.
empirically beyond its capacity
now get into the digestion pool
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>>98202993
yeah its stupid, wasteful capitalism.

Ceos aren't smart, and they give themselves raises when their product just chugs along due to momentum. I think most Ceos are detrimental to their businesses. You can tell because they spend their money on stupid status symbols and luxuries instead of you know investing in businesses or communities.
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>>98203077
good for you
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>>98203077
I was torn too, and didn't participate in that collage, But I stopped being sympathetic to him when I learned he had been banned over a 100 times and was still coming here.
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>>98203077
doakes.gif

permaban means forever
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>>98203073
Sadly, the masses are too spooked…
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>>98203077
You have been banned over 90 times
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>>98203086
>didn’t participate because it was bullying
I get it, but why didn’t you just do the secondary option which was made specifically in case you didn’t want to participate in it.
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>>98203073
see, that’s why we need a good dictator to do order everyone around, so they all work toward the same common goal.
just trust me bro. it’ll work out this time I swear.
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>>98203111
>horus' ghost watching the imperium die after he mortally wounded it
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>>98203100
Because even if it was the other theme, i didn't want to be misinterpreted as joining in.
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>>98203077
>decalbro
He wasn't a bro, though. He was actively antagonistic to people who didn't even know or care who he was, stirring up shit for no reason and insulting other people's hobby work.
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>>98202936
WEs
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>>98203077
people are too retarded to not fall for your shitty bait
so have another (you)
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>>98203077
>>98203086
How're those helblasters coming along?
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>>98203164
these niggas miss decalfag and want him to come back SOOOO bad its crazy.
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>>98203170
(you)
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So much false flagging and desperate baiting.
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Mental illness
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>>98203172
they are, they keep on asking about him, and as soon as someone brings up something decalfag adjacent they immediately start talking about him like an ex they haven’t gotten over “hellblasters? decalfag used to own unpainted hellblasters…” and then as soon as someone seems like decalfag they instantly jump on him and start crying his name.
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>>98203181
gb2 sharty
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>>98203187
That's all (you)
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sub assembly painting is for the gays.
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Mental Fortitude
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>>98203194
>good
True, Also using really small detail brushes for everything.
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>>98203194
true. shove in your paintbrush to paint the nooks and crannies like a man.
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>>98202912
Anons please
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>>98201626
Failed marketing cringe
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>>98201668
Nice, made them actually look good with the conversions
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>>98203181
Primaris fags are like disney adults trying to convince people that the Star Wars sequels were secretly good
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>>98203275
Never happens
You have a persecution complex
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>>98203279
>persecution complex
????????
At what point did I reference anything to do with persecution
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>month almost half over
>haven't started on my collage project
haha...
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>GW isn't about to sell us fancy cardboard, are they?
>GW outright gives us the measurements so we can create them ourselves if we want to
>Sells out instantly

To give James the slightest credit, even they aren't charging the same as the etsy and ebay wankers are.
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>>98203181
Me on the left
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Out of nowhere I want some Khorne Viking character with a hammer but not much armor.
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Uploaded the core rules to sloppa and asked it to make a cheat sheet for the rules. Has it fucked up anywhere?
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>>98203361
I'm not proofreading grok
just make the cheatsheet yourself
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>>98203361
>"people" are now AI slopping rule cheatsheets on top of models
This hobby is in a death spiral.
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>>98203361
I haven't even read the rules yet and even though I like using AI slop for a lot of things (like concepts and as a good enough color matching tool, and just quick and disposable memes and character portraits) I don't think i'd ever really trust it so i would take the rules and go through it one by one and see if it makes sense.

The thing is that AI fucks up wording and 40k rules are very particular in how they are worded in order to ensure proper sequencing. So any sort of paraphrasing might add confusion so this should only ever be a quick reference and should never be consulted for rules clarifications.
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>>98203361
The kids are not alright.
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>emergency disembark is now a hazardous roll, failing on a 1 or 2
>models that disembarked can now take mortals from the vehicle as well if it blows up

ork bros this is looking rough
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Just completely fucking ruined a model with spray can primer
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>>98203451
>tranports good because you don't lose 1/4th-1/3rd of your squad because of a lucky lascannon roll or minor misposition
>ummmm ackshully you should be raped if your transport blows up
>an extra 6-7" of movement is worth the risk because WAACfags abused them once in a tourney
I really hate modern game design
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>>98203471
time to strip it and try again
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>>98203471
Always test rattlecan primer on plastic spoons before your model
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>>98203283
hes just baiting lol.
>say dumb thing
>get reply
>when sufficiently BTFO go on to the next thing
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>>98203485
Whoops meant for >>98203275
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>>98203489
Oh man I keep messing this up
meant for >>98203194
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Hey pimps, old world chad invading cause I like multiple systems. Why yall nigga see through friendly units? Makes no sense, dawg
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>>98203054
also I've been working on fluff for the model.
"First you disturb my meditations and then you drag me down to the hanger deck. Someone better be dead or you are about to be Konrad." Inquisitor Corvich snapped.

"M'lady you recall the end of our last deployment, the astartes' techmarine said the thunderhawk would have to be decommissioned as its machine spirit refused orders."

"What of it?"
"Ol' Whitecloak's pet ma'am. He got to it and seems to have coaxed some more life from 'er." Valdever quipped from the hanger doorframe.

"and now the astartes want nothing to do with it, having been touched by the xenos. Whitecloak says the bird is under your command so we've been cleaning it up." Konrad added pensively.

The hanger doors opened to reveal the nearly unrecognizable vessel. Gone were the battle scars and reentry burns over once gleaming truesilver, now dark as the void with the symbols of Corvich's office.
It's primary weapon had been destroyed by the Archenemy, in its place sat a Void Shield generator fit for a Warlord Titan, set in a massive golden icon of the Inquisition.
The cockpit canopy still carried the scars of the last engagement, a warp magic impact from that damned sorcerer and the deep scratches of his pet furies.
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Okay I'm definitely never buying one of these colour forge primer cans again. This shit is awful.
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>>98203530
actual skill issue
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>>98203532
>have used dozens of other brands without issue, both hobby branded stuff like gw and vallejo as well as hardware store shit like rustoleum and cheap noname $2 cans
>only suddenly have an issue with this shit
No, this stuff just sucks.
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>>98203539
Color forge is literally universally regarded as the best hobby rattlecan
You are the issue here
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>>98203530
Shake minimum 5 min, check temp and humidity, use a test surface. This applies for all cans. Are you new?
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>>98203544
Do they make pink?
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>>98203569
yes
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>>98203501
Gotta play boarding actions for true line of sight
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Black Templars or Ultramarines?
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>>98203609
marines malevolent
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>>98203609
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>>98203613
>marines malevolent
That's just Black Templars but atheist.
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>>98201794
I'm surprised you haven't ACKed yourself now that Bungie has ACKed your franchise in order to buy 10 more classic cars for the CEO's collection.

Stay strong, little destroony! I'd say it gets better, but it won't! Haha!
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dead ass general
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>>98203652
The Destinyfag recoils in pain and accuses the other. The other anon praises him for having better tempered expectations, preemptively assuming shit sucks. But it struck a nerve in this anonymous poster so hard that he replied to a multi-hour old post because it insulted him, even if through insulting praise.

Fuck on Destinyfag. Fuck on hard. If I ever get a LoV army, I'll make it Destiny themed.
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>>98203620
who'd shoot a guy then throw him off a plane?
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>>98203609
ngmi
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>>98203670
you mean the normal speed when we don't have trolls and shills ruining it?
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>>98201794
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>>98203631
black templars are just marines malevolent but reddit
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>>98203680
>not Anno Domini themed
The breasts of your women are small.
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>>98203692
reddit is not religious though, quite the opposite
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>>98201794
Cut a vottannfag and a destinfyag bleeds. Every time. Every time.
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>>98203609
Salamanders.
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>>98203686
Redditors deserve this joebeit
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This picture arouses the Admech.
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>>98203699
nta but they are religious, just not in the typical way
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>>98203686
>redditors are mad about a standard practise GW has employed for well over 2 decades
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>>98203686
that sub in particular has the highest concentration of retards in the hobby.
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>>98203728
no that would be the lamenters subreddit
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>>98203729
how so?
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>>98203747
>circlejerking over literal fanfics convinced they're real
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>>98203750
do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?
you just described the entirety of 40k fanbase with that.
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>>98202989
Hey, it's that elf from the webcomic
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>>98203680
Aww, he's hurt!
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Justify the following setups for games, without resorting to "mistaken identity" explanations:
>GSC vs Tyranids
>GSC vs GSC
>Any Imperial vs a Primarch
>Adeptus Custodes vs Sisters (as in, why would the Sisters ever not stand down against the Emperor's guards)
>GSC vs Admech (as in, how does this situation even occur in the first place)
>Grey Knights vs anyone except Chaos (as in, why would they not just immediately teleport away to go find Chaos)
>Necrons allied with Eldar
>Anyone but CSM allied with Chaos Daemons
>Orks allied with Guard with Yarrick in it
>Any Imperial allied with CSM or Dark Eldar
>Deathwatch or Black Templars allied with any xenos (except Votann)
>Space Wolves allied with Thousand Sons
>Anyone but GSC allied with Tyranids
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>>98203870
>>GSC vs Tyranids
Nids stop their psychic mind control early and the cultists realize they're not going to ascend, they're just the top of the menu.
>>GSC vs GSC
"We're gonna ascend first!" "No, we are!"
>>Any Imperial vs a Primarch
Primarchs are meany stinky doo-doo heads who don't know anything about the modern Imperium.
>>Adeptus Custodes vs Sisters (as in, why would the Sisters ever not stand down against the Emperor's guards)
The Sisters are fanatics and if their creed says one thing, they'll stick with it, no matter who tells them it's wrong. And they could believe any Custodes telling them otherwise is some Chaos trickery.
>>GSC vs Admech (as in, how does this situation even occur in the first place)
Easy, Genestealer uprising on a Forge World.
>>Grey Knights vs anyone except Chaos (as in, why would they not just immediately teleport away to go find Chaos)
Even Grey Knights get bored. There was an old story about them pulling rank and requisitioning 600 Terminator suits from different chapters and showing up to put down a minor planetary rebellion. The rebels, seeing half a dozen different space marine chapters' heraldry, surrendered without a fight.
>>Necrons allied with Eldar
Some Necron lord (Like Trazyn) managed to build a device to mind control some Eldar into being his puppets.
>>Anyone but CSM allied with Chaos Daemons
Chaos worshippers come in all shapes, sizes and species, not just spiky space marines.
>>Orks allied with Guard with Yarrick in it
Orks have been hired as mercenaries by the Imperium before. Some might be excited to fight alongside a legend like Bale-Eye, who was NOT the one to make the choice of mercs.
>>Any Imperial allied with CSM or Dark Eldar
Again, mercenaries.
>>Deathwatch or Black Templars allied with any xenos (except Votann)
Yeah, I got nothin
>>Space Wolves allied with Thousand Sons
Fighting the thread of a giant vacuum cleaner.
>>Anyone but GSC allied with Tyranids
Mind controlled by the Hive Mind.
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>>98203870
>GSC vs Tyranids
i don't want to be eaten
>GSC vs GSC
You're not pure enough
>Any Imperial vs a Primarch
I won't believe this warp trickery
>Adeptus Custodes vs Sisters (as in, why would the Sisters ever not stand down against the Emperor's guards)
Custodes are just cunts
>GSC vs Admech (as in, how does this situation even occur in the first place)
Stop fucking with our forge world workers
>Grey Knights vs anyone except Chaos (as in, why would they not just immediately teleport away to go find Chaos)
All enemies of the emperors deserve equal destruction
>Necrons allied with Eldar
Shenanigans
>Anyone but CSM allied with Chaos Daemons
Shenanigans
>Orks allied with Guard with Yarrick in it
The orks split up so the umies get a fare fight
>Any Imperial allied with CSM or Dark Eldar
Trickery
>Deathwatch or Black Templars allied with any xenos (except Votann)
Deathwatch dealing with a worse enemy first before dealing with the lesser threat, black templar are too focussed on killing the enemy in front of them to notice
>Space Wolves allied with Thousand Sons
Trickery
>Anyone but GSC allied with Tyranids
ZOAT!
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>*Is the only army with no epic heroes in your path*
How do they do it?
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>>98203870
I'm not even 100% sure that Deathwatch or Black Templars will give a pass to Votann, actually.
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>>98203870
>Grey Knights vs anyone except Chaos
Based on GK novels alone one could come to a conclusion that their job is to fight Imperials mostly.
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>>98203885
Doesnt really make sense for them to have any, if the gsc uprising fails they all die, if they succeed they all die. Can field deathleaper & red terror in final day though
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>>98203361
>engagement range under core reminders is wrong
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>>98203870
You already asked this question multiple times. Just get your answers from the last thread.
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98148502/#98149064
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98148502/#98149243
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98148502/#98149317
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>>98203917
Kellermorph/Deathleaper/Red Terror is exactly how you do it, really. Just give the GSC a mythical hero legend that keeps cropping up across multiple cults and thus is believed to be a genetic template that is born into a GSC on the eve of an uprising. Some Dune style LISAN AL-GAIB prophesized chosen one type shit.

Alternatively, flesh out some of the named cults that have a long history like Tainted Coil with some named characters.
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>>98203361
You are a nigger, just fucking READ.
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>>98203870
>GSC vs nids
>Nids vs nids
Competing strains / sub-strains
>Primarch vs Imp
Imp found to have disrespected an edict / commited a big crime, like cecession
>Custards vs SoBs
In their fanaticism and over-zealousness the sisters are being detrimental to what the emperor wishes, they cannot be reasoned with.
>GSC vs Admech
GSC unearthed a rare tech or magos biologis is interested in rare specimens
>GK vs anyone but chaos
They have to go through them to get to the chaos / their is high suspicion of chaos related, so no risks are being taken / GK force stranded and attacked
>necrons with eldars
Tomb world with crashed craftworld is being threatened, temporary allies
>anyone but chaos with demons
Chaos works in mysterious ways (think Legion of the Damned)
>Orks allied with guard with yarrick
Whatever is the krumpiest, killiest humie is fighting is gonna be best to krump, he knows what's good
>imperial allied with CSM / dark eldars
Their mutual enemy wants them both dead, temporary truce
>DW or BT with xenos
DW is a force specialized in fighting xenos, it doesn't mean they can't ally with them. BTs hate xenos but they have worked with eldars iirc.
>SW allied with TS
Someone who hates magnus wants to raid fenris to take some mcguffin
>anyone but GSC allied with nids
We are re-enacting Dawn of War 2 multiplayer
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>>98203870
>>Grey Knights vs anyone except Chaos (as in, why would they not just immediately teleport away to go find Chaos)
Grey Knight's are big on predicting and shaping the future much like Eldar. They have people on that duty 24/7 so when they find out that somone on the other side of the galaxy is about to go on a path which will end up with a Chaos victory/deamon summoning, they intervene. They are also known for purging witnesses including their allies and also now according to the new lore they are low on psyker recruits so they are raiding other chapters and imperial worlds to secure those recruits. They also had a falling out with Girlyman because he wanted to talk to deamons (and nearly died because of it). They don't treat Primarchs like some demigods worthy of worship. They are of a similar mind like Custodes and think any chapter or Primarch can turn traitor if not watched.
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>>98203381
This is what happens when the IP owner appeals to normalfags and lowers the entry point to hell.
But hey, GW is making more money so we can get better stuff! Except we don't!
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>>98203946
>archivefagging
fuck off
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>>98203960
>according to the new lore they are low on psyker recruits so they are raiding other chapters and imperial worlds to secure those recruits
Jesus, I'm happy I couldn't be bored with reading shitty scans of paper codexes and didn't read anything past 8e codexes.
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>>98203964
plenty of mouth breathers playing this game before the mass market appeal lil bro.
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>>98203974
>GW is appealing to retards hard
>but there were retards before???
Did you miss the "appeal" part or are you one such mouth breather nigga?
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Are we getting points updates for all the units in 11e?
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>>98203969
New lore was controversial. There was also that mention that the Terminus Decree was about them killing the Emperor if he gets up from the chair and also that all of the Grey Knight dead keep disappearing from their mausoleum on Titan.
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>>98203979
>but there were retards before???
Exactly. Nothings changed. I accept your concession
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>>98203987
>There was also that mention that the Terminus Decree was about them killing the Emperor if he gets up from the chair
I thought the order is to force him back on the chair if possible?
>all of the Grey Knight dead keep disappearing from their mausoleum on Titan
Ah, yet another mystery to be pointlessly explained in 2 editions.
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How come GW doesn't make more novels on different Chaos Warbands besides the main ones like Lords of Silence and the Adored? Speaking of, I do have a few questions:
>Why was Typhus even in the Lords of Silence book when he's part of the main warband of the Death Guard?
>What ever happened with the Renegade book series? 2 dogshit novels by Mike Brooks about the Alpha Legion and a black Alpha Legion guy with dreadlocks and 1 fun novel about an Emperor's Children warband.
>What's stopping GW from making a book about one of the daemon primarchs as the main character? We know fuck all what Magnus does at this point.
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>>98203994
>thing new bad? Not true, always has been
>thing new good? Old was so bad, glad we're different now

Okay baitnigger, here's your last (you) for your low effort bait.
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>>98201610
Convince me why I shouldn't buy a Darkoath Wilderfiend and convert it into a better Genestealer Patriarch with some added patriarch arms, a head swap, and maybe a rough cloak to help cover up the lack of boney carapace.
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>>98203870
>GSC vs Tyranids
The mindcontrol over GSC disappears and tyranids are there to just eat them with the rest of the planet.
>GSC vs GSC
2 rival cults came into contact
>Any Imperial vs a Primarch
Imperials are illogical retards and would hate a primarch sticking his nose into their business
>Adeptus Custodes vs Sisters
Sisters are fanatical, illogical retards who do stupid shit. Like a custodian saying not to kill X thing or xenos, and then sisters label them as dirty xeno sympathisers, when in reality the custards have a bigger picture outlook and more complex plan
>GSC vs Admech
GSC infested forge world workers, the cult was found out and Admech is now performing extermination duty and gassing out the cockroaches
>Grey Knights vs anyone except Chaos (as in, why would they not just immediately teleport away to go find Chaos)
Potential chaos corruption on the people who are fighting against the GK, the GK do not take chaos corruption lightly at all and will purge where ever to make sure it is gone
>Necrons allied with Eldar
A more dangerous enemy, like chaos or tyranids arrive, the tincans and knife ears put aside their rivalries because there's a bigger, worse problem to deal with
>Anyone but CSM allied with Chaos Daemons
Freshly corrupted guard regiment started summoning daemons
>Orks allied with Guard with Yarrick in it
CSM crashed the party and ruined the fight between orks and guard led by Yarrick, and orks hate their fights being interrupted
>Any Imperial allied with CSM or Dark Eldar
Rogue Traders do lot of wacky shit. Also radical inquisitors
>Deathwatch or Black Templars allied with any xenos (except Votann)
Chaos or tyranids arrive, which are a bigger problem, so if any group wants to get out alive they have to moderately work together
>Space Wolves allied with Thousand Sons
Great Crusade days. Or it's SW allied with Blood Ravens.
>Anyone but GSC allied with Tyranids
Tyranids are mindcontrolling the "allied" force with parasite bugs
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>>98203964
>This is what happens when the IP owner appeals to normalfags
No, this happens because retards act like retards. Just like how it has been since the dawn of man.
It has nothing to do with what the IP holder is doing.
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If a faction fighting another faction doesn't make sense, then it's literally just a training exercise. You know we do this in real life already, right? Smoke grenades, paintball guns, and electronic signals to tanks/ships that tell you someone targeted you and hit you with ordnance so you're "out". There are jobs in every branch of the military to set this all up and maintain the simulation materials, and it's even a branch in the pentagon. You already have a real life, realistic explanation for why grey knights or sob or the same chapter itself or whoever is "fighting" each other.

Orks fight each other all the time.
tyranids consume less productive strains of themselves all the time to recycle biomass.
There are already canon examples of GSC deluding themselves into thinking they're free/independent and then getting eaten anyway.

it honestly doesn't take much thought to justify just about everything.
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>>98204016
>Just like how it has been since the dawn of man.
>always has been
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>>98204020
Are you really trying to argue that retards haven't been retards since time immemorial?
Are you a retard, perchance?
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>>98204022
You've been told to fuck off and you chose to samefag my post with the same retardation.

Get a life baitnigger.
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>>98203883
>Deathwatch or Black Templars allied with any xenos (except Votann)
>Yeah, I got nothin
Gotchu its called gathering storm :) need a major event like cadia blowing up.
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What kind of points cost changes can we expect? Will those be out soon? I just updated some of my lists for the new detachment points system and disposition stuff but I assume units will change points too
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>>98203870
>GSC vs Admech
M8, this is literally the Ascension Day book
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>>98204025
the lack of self awareness
nta, popping in to say you're wrong, you will now call me a samefag because you can't handle the idea that multiple people would disagree with you
enjoy screaming into the void, I'm going to bed
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>>98204025
So a retard, got it.
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>>98203964
Ip owner has no power on anon putting a document into an ai program.

You're retarded.
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>>98204025
No fuck off retard. If you're called out on being a retard, the best thing to do is to just slink away.

Doubling down and proving your retardation is not a good strat.
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>>98204025
I thought this >>98204001 was your last (You)
What happened? You get bored?
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>>98204032
>>98204033
>nta btw
>quick use the vpn/phone to do a quick message withing 1 minute so it can't possibly be the same guy
Yeah not falling for that shit samefag baitnigger. Last (you), desperate bitch.
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>>98204042
Retard, you already used your "my last (you)" few posts ago.
The biggest baitnigger retard here is you.
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>>98201913
Missed the best one
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>>98203870
>GSC vs Tyranids
Le consoome
>GSC vs GSC
EUSSR vs RUSSR
>Any Imperial vs a Primarch
Reeeee you will do what I say or die
>Adeptus Custodes vs Sisters (as in, why would the Sisters ever not stand down against the Emperor's guards)
Retard vs retard, many such cases
>GSC vs Admech (as in, how does this situation even occur in the first place)
Get off from our toasters
>Grey Knights vs anyone except Chaos (as in, why would they not just immediately teleport away to go find Chaos)
"You have something what we need, nothin personnel kid"
>Necrons allied with Eldar
We hate each other, but we hate humans (loyal or chaos) much more
>Anyone but CSM allied with Chaos Daemons
Khaine vs Khorne skullharvesting competition
>Orks allied with Guard with Yarrick in it
Le chaos bad
>Any Imperial allied with CSM or Dark Eldar
SoB bitches love big eldar cock
>Deathwatch or Black Templars allied with any xenos (except Votann)
Le chaos bad
>Space Wolves allied with Thousand Sons
We hate aliens more than each other
>Anyone but GSC allied with Tyranids
Eldar mindraped the norn queen and guiding ze bugz against monkeys with their trickery shit
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Is this going to be our new lolcow? A drama starved retard?
How long did it even take? Less than a week after mutant got booted?
Just wow.
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>>98204046
but it right there in the centre of the collage?
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>>98204047
>Eldar mindraped
Wasn't there some big dick librarian who almost had his mind exploded from just barely brushing against the hive mind? I know the gay elves are cool and all when it comes to their mind powers, but them asserting control over nids seems a bit far fetched.
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>>98204055
I am still here you cretin.
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>>98204003
if that's what you're looking out of a patriarch then I don't think you really need to cover it as much as just headswap it

if an oldschool patriarch can get fat, your patriarch can get skin
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>>98204070
>humanish face
Nay
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>>98204070
>human face
Based.
Finally someone with actual good taste.
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This thread is a little cringe, what are you lot arguing about anyway?
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>>98204070
I like the boney carapace look, but the normal patriarch is way too small and looks like a bitch compared to how the books portray patriarchs. I just know I'm not good enough with greenstuff to make the wilderfiend look more boney and covered in chitin.
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>>98204087
>the normal patriarch is way too small and looks like a bitch compared to how the books portray patriarchs.
Does everything really gotta be big? Why does GW think that patriarchs need to be big to be taken seriously?
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>>98204087
the wilderfiend isn't particularly bigger, if you want something way bigger you could try a different tyranid like deathleaper or a demon prince, it's got a build without wings or backpack or armour on his upper body
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>>98204062
Iyanna get fucked by hive mind too when she touched it, but why not use some mass effect collectors-tier shit? What could stop eldar in this or unify with deldar in experimenting?
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>>98204090
>>98204105
Maybe bigger wasn't the right word. Bulk or mass might be better? Half the patriarch's model is literally empty air due to the tactical pipe, while the wilderfiend occupies most of the space on its model (and the tactical boulders fit in with my theme too). Standard patriarch barely feels any different from the purestrains, even though the patriarch is basically supposed to follow ork rules and become big to stay the leader.
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>>98204003
>>98204087
try getting an upscaled print of one of these
https://gofile.io/d/xBDcXP
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Thoughts?
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>>98204081
Everything and anything, just as Khorne desires
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And here's how >>98202356 looks with the gold trim added along
Gonna need to go back over some areas for touchups but I'm very happy with how this has turned out
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>>98204125
>even though the patriarch is basically supposed to follow ork rules and become big to stay the leader
That's what I meant by bigger. Why does everything need to be bigger to be seen as the boss/leader?
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>>98204188
Because this is a tabletop war game where leaders need to be visibly identifiable? The lore bends to conform to the needs of the models.
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Do you think love can bloom on the tabletop?
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>>98204199
>only way to idenfity leaders is through size
So it's because of retards, got it.
Marine captains weren't bigger
Eldar autarchs/farseers weren't bigger
Deldar archons weren't bigger
Imperial guard officers weren't bigger
Tau Ethereals weren't bigger
Chaos lords weren't bigger
Necron lords weren't bigger
etc.

Why are hive tyrants bigger? Because they are a monster/creature, not just an HQ
Why are ork warbosses bigger? Because orks are bullies and bigger means more & easier bullying.

How do you identify an important model? Accessories. Hats. Weapons. Banners, poles. Colors. Symbols.

Size needs to make sense and make the model better. The patriarch isn't special because it's a big nid, it's special because it's an infection vector, a corruptor and a cunning mastermind.

Show yourself to be a cretin again and I won't reply.
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>>98204231
Arguably all of those factions should have leader models be bigger.
It's normal for humans when choosing a leader, to choose a leader that is taller than the average height. Even in 40k.
Most marine chapter masters are taller than their subordinates. There's also the Emperor and primarchs, but humans didn't really "choose" them. They just showed up, but the point stands.

And since all humanoid and non-humanoid species were created by the Old Ones and from the same stock, this pattern would carry over to every species that exists within the galaxy.
We readily see this in orks and humans, which proves that humans and orks are more closely related than many realize.
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>>98204231
>>98204252
um guard officers did get (slightly) bigger in profile than the rank and file because they are typically standing on a tactical rock
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How do you explain this?
Warp fuckery?
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>>98204231
>it's special because it's an infection vector, a corruptor
Literally all genestealers are these things, and so are the infected cultists. It is special because it is the first genestealer in infect a population, and then it grows bigger to both become harder to kill and to support a larger brain for the cunning mastermind stuff. Nids don't make patriarchs, genestealers evolve into patriarchs.
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>>98204279
Advanced cloaking technology. Not impossible since Imperium does have that + anything is possible when you involve DAoT tech.

But Warp fuckery is possible.
Could be a warp ghost that might show up during battle to aid the Imperium only to then disappear without a trace.
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>>98204278
Tactical rocks count as accessories, even if I'm sure the dude is still also a tad bigger than a regular cadian without it.

Him being bigger matters less than his pose, his uniform and weaponry.

>>98204284
>Literally all genestealers are these things
Not to the same degree, retard-kun.
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>>98204279
Rubber pads.
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>>98204279
>how do you explain this mystery
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>>98204279
Knights and chaos knights fluff is what space marines should be in 40k.
current astartes should be like 35k Imperium. by 40k they should be so rare they should be like knights. Small handfuls of overwhelming power.Chaos knights are heralded by black rain and intenst fog, thats how CSM should be. Emerging from pools of blood etc
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>>98204279
>>98204286
How do Imperial Knights even arrive for battle? They can't fly, all they can do is walk. Slowly.
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>>98204311
DoW4 introduced a super drop pod
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>>98204307
Nah, that's gay.
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>>98204311
>They can't fly
Knight drop pods and carriers are a thing for ages now.
>all they can do is walk. Slowly.
Who told you they are slowly? They move a few meters with every step.
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>>98204320
>Knight drop pods and carriers are a thing for ages now.
Nta but where?
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>>98203164
Retards itt are the absolute bottom wrung. They fall for every piece of bait like niggers to an unattended bike. It’s always the faggiest garbage too.
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>>98203359
That’s a Hindu chad thougbiet
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What's with the weird low effort shitposting and just constant necroing half day old posts trying to stir up more shit?
Are we being raided?
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How do I make black areas more interesting but still black?
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>>98204341
Volumetric highlights? That could work.
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>>98204336
Shittiness is part and parcel of 40kg and your boogymen outsiders narrative is not needed nor wanted.
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>>98204341
What do you mean by black areas? Recesses or black painted elements of the miniature?
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>>98204336
it falls into two camps:
those who like to get attention, but couldn’t because the proper lolcows were hogging it all up are now free to shitpost to get it all they like.
then there are people who are obsessed with lolcow drama, and now
that there isn’t one they don’t know what to do without them, so they start acting out in hopes a new (or previous) lolcow will emerge.
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>>98204351
Large black areas I've primed with black
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>>98204341
My recommendations for blacks are:
>Katt Garcia
>Crystal Chase
>Jeni Angel
>Anne Amari
>Alexis Tae
>Alina Ali
>Layla Monroe
>Tori Montana
>Kathryn Celeste
>Lala Ivey
>Asia Rae
>Vanessa Blue
>Zaawaadi
>Lacey London
>Lala Ivy
>Ashton Devine
>Dani Dolce
>Kira Noir
>Jasmine Webb
>Aaliyah Hadid
>Misty Stone
>Milu Blaze
>Scarlit Scandal
>Carmen Hayes
>Osha Lovely
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>>98204336
It's one (or a few) 24/7 shitposter(s). These people are chronically bored.
Point it out, report, ignore.
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>>98204355
Look at examples of the material it's supposed to be painted black.
Can also paint pattersn on it, the most basics are hazard stripes and checkers.
What model?
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>>98204350
>Shittiness is part and parcel of 40kg and your boogymen outsiders narrative is not needed
>ackchually it's meant to be bad and shitty all the time, and there's 100% no outsiders
What an odd thing to say.
Even weirder when you say it's not outsiders, like that's somehow a good thing. When in reality it just means the retards are actually local, meaning they are actively retarded and shitty on purpose.

But sure. Lets go with that. Who am I to argue.
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>>98203870
Assuming you mean “mistaken identity” as in friendly fire:
>gsc vs nids
Genestealer is from a different hive. “Nani!?” Moment when they make landfall. Would actually be great to see “mutant” cultists helping out the guard etc after ostensibly sabotaging the planets defenses.
>gsc vs gsc
Second verse same as the first, competing gangs trying to take over a hive
>sisters vs Jannies
Stolen bras. Wage dispute
>gsc vs admech
Why would this need justification?
>grey knights vs any
In the way. Collateral.
>necrons allied with eldar
Vs chaos
>orks x yarrick
Gay smut bl entry. They double team some tau who accidentally tunneled their way through space into the planet
>guard x chaos x deldar
Because deldar are puppeting both
>dw x bt x xeno
Marvel team up vs chaos. Probably eldar.
>wolves x sand
Sent back through time and they have to fight some funhouse mirror versions of themselves to get back to the future
>any x tyranids
Admech biologis has turned itself into pickle-nornqueen. They abduct and breed tyranids like rival ants and use them for fuel and as servitors
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>>98204361
Welcome to 4chan! Enjoy your stay!
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>>98204003
Because she would be an honorary sob and count as bdsm mecha or something in 40k.
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>>98204357
zased and dogfartpilled
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>>98203870
>>GSC vs Tyranids
mind control turned off too early
>>GSC vs GSC
see above
>>Any Imperial vs a Primarch
humans should lead the imperium as the emperor intended, we don't want to cede our power. this has already happened too many times to count.
>>Adeptus Custodes vs Sisters
happens in dark imperium
>>GSC vs Admech
a generic uprising on a forge world? are you retarded?
>>Grey Knights vs anyone except Chaos
sometimes chaos is fighting someone else and GK intervene but have to fight both sides. every GK story is like this
>>Necrons allied with Eldar
usual greater threat situation. happened in ynnari novels.
>>Anyone but CSM allied with Chaos Daemons
daemon magic mind control
>>Orks allied with Guard with Yarrick in it
bigger krump just turned up
>>Any Imperial allied with CSM or Dark Eldar
former already happened against orks, latter could happen vs chaos
>>Deathwatch or Black Templars allied with any xenos (except Votann)
allied vs chaos
>>Space Wolves allied with Thousand Sons
yeah probably wouldn't happen
>>Anyone but GSC allied with Tyranids
see above
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>>98204014
>The mindcontrol over GSC disappears and tyranids are there to just eat them with the rest of the planet.
It would be funny if the genestealers or hosts regularly had some kind of mutation that made the subsequent GSC just mutant carriers.
Hive stumbles upon them since they don’t send out a signal, and angrily munch on the defective strains. Especially if younger hives have a high failure rate.
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>>98204324
It's the same macro-transport technology as used to transport titans but miniaturized of course. It is mentioned as early as in 2007. Many sources are from 2015-2021. Kingsblade from 2017 has the most detailed description I believe.
>Somewhat resembling the larger coffin-landers of Titan walkers, the primary difference is that the Drop-Keep can deploy directly into battle, creating an instant fortification. Drop-Keeps are heavily armoured and lined with servitor-crewed gun emplacements but their most deadly weapon is their cargo of war-machines.
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>>98204336
Yes. The bastion of 40kg is always being assaulted sister. Rally the discord server.
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>>98204397
The Grim Dark is female, chud
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>>98204336
Yes, the thread with the same 20 or so autists ranting about a game and their obsession with trans stuff is priority one for influencers and three letter organisations
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>>98204408
Who's on the left?
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>>98204415
Nobody talked about influencers or 3 letter agencies.
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>>98204386
I hoped there was more than descriptions/text, sad
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Actual first lore question I've had in a while
Ignoring the recent retcon, is all the armor and vehicle plating of the eldar wraithbone? Or is it just special for wraith constructs?
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>>98204469
I think they still use other materials too, though wraithbone is used pretty extensively in all their construction. Or maybe wraithbone density can be psychically adjusted to make heavy armored plating.
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Assuming I want to play primaris exclusively and also a good mix of tanks, terminators, melee units and shooting units, what Space Marine chapter should I go for?
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>>98204497
...they literally all do that. Do you have any aesthetic preferences?
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>>98204497
The Ram Ranchers
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BIG HARD THROBBING ARMOUR WANTING TO BE WORN
YEAH RAM RANCH IT ROCKS
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Soplace your bets, how will Aeronautica end?
>Girl pilot blows up the Eldar base and flies home only to get executed for grimderp reasons
>Eldar pilot shoots down girl pilot but her sacrifice opens the way for the Imperium to kill the Eldar
>Chaos was actually here all along and the two have to work together to stop it
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>>98204497
Just pic whatever chapter looks coolest to you, since all marine chapters use those units.
But if you really want an all rounder chapter just pick Ultramarines, since that's literally their niche.

Pic not mine, I just like to collect neat looking models.
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>>98204497
>Assuming I want to play primaris exclusively
Retard. The only firstborns we have are devastators and tactical squads and both of them suck and can be easily skipped
Are you actually planning on building an army or do you just want to post for the sake of posting?
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>>98204546
post more neat models
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>>98204497
unironically imperial fists
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>>98204553
Ok
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>>98204548
I think that’s meant to rule Marines Malevolent out because there’s been posters shilling for it lately.
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>>98204557
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>>98204539
>>Chaos was actually here all along
chaos flyers are harder to animate

I say negrons
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Is 40k not for me? None of the designs ever really sing out to me, they all feel homogeneous and just soulless in a way I can't describe, no models really make me say "wow I want to play that faction/buy that model"
Sometimes a singular model will stand out, but the rest of the faction is just boring
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>>98204508
>Do you have any aesthetic preferences?
I like the knightly aesthetic and also the space roman one but something like the Raptors can be cool too.
>>98204528
Is it a Space Wolf successor chapter?
>>98204546
I've been thinking about Ultramarines but thought maybe they are too MCU? They seem to be very popular in my area and not in a good way. Neat model though.
>>98204548
You don't need to respond you know?
I'm very new and some armies still use old models like Grey Knights, Space Wolves with the fury stuff and Dark Angels with their bikes and flying craft.
>>98204556
I've been unironically thinking about Imperial Fists but someone in the store told me they eat shit and I'll get memed on.
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>>98204566
why are you even asking yourself if you want to get into a hobby where nothing attracts you?
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>>98204562
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>>98204582
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>>98204566
if you literally can’t find a single faction you like, then yeah, you’re kind of boned. one last resort is to find the army with the most models you enjoy, and try to read their codices/books to see if stepping into their world makes you appreciate the entire army more. otherwise, there’s plenty of modelmakers out there who bring out tons of different characters and designs, so you can see if you like any of those if you’re itching to paint models.
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>>98204580
My friends are into it, and I kind of like some models, but just not all in a whole faction
Usually I'd like a few models in a faction, but the rest are just boring
The space marine chapters all look like the same shit to me but with different colours
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>>98204587
>The space marine chapters all look like the same shit to me but with different colours
that's what they are
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James PLEASE let me use the 30k units in 40k. I will give you money.
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>>98204593
I THINK SPACE MARINES SUCK
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>>98204576
>someone in the store told me they eat shit and I'll get memed on
That person is a fucking retard that's only exposure to the fluff is through gay Warhammer memes and sloptubers.
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>>98204587
>my friends are into it
well it looks like you aren’t into it, so you won’t be able to join it. that’s completely normal, I have friends who like paddle boarding and I don’t, and I like line dancing but some of my friends don’t. sometimes that’s just how it works, so what do you want us to say or do about it?
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>>98204608
>James PLEASE let me use the 30k units in 40k.
No
>I will give you money.
You will anyway
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>>98204619
You might honk the honk but do you tonk the tonk?
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>>98204622
>You will anyway
Been waiting 10 years to start AdMech because the vast majority of 40k units look like garbage and they cancelled Fires of Cyraxus. I can wait another 10. I'm not buying shitty da Vinci rejects, James.
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>>98204565
The seething from Eldar fans watching Necrons shut them down would be glorious to see.
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>>98204622
Anon AdMech currently sells like shit for a bunch of reasons. You can't pretend people are buying 40k AdMech en masse.
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>>98204622
100% accurate. This is basically the reason.
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>>98204616
It's very possible. I don't know him. I think he either played Tau or Eldar so he wasn't too happy with me either way.
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>>98204408
>the force is female
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>>98204643
What does the army they play have to do with this? Thinking people base their entire personality off the army they play, and take whatever pretend rivalries their armymen have and taking it into the real world is an incredibly autistic mindset.
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>>98204497
One day I'll make a basic codex force of howling griffons
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>>98204676
Based quartered chapter scheme enjoyer.
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>>98204576
>I'm very new
Then don't play marines
We have enough marines players in the wolrd
Painting marines builds bad habits and ironically, some of the most effective newfag tools for painting (contrast, wash, ect) work terribly with marines because of all the flat, featureless panels
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>>98204671
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>>98204678
Quartered schemes are the meeting point of medieval soldier colors, sci-fi application of said colors (full armor) and a miniature approach (simple quarter, bright colors). So while my fav niggas aren't a one of them I do think quartered schemes are the best for a simple/generic/codex force.

I'd like to start a small Blood Ravens force before going into HG / NM
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So i haven't played much since 9th edition. As someone who plays GSC, SoB, Necrons and a cheeky bit of Admech on the side what do i actually need to get back into the game?

I'm assuming like £200+ of books and card tat but with the way GW has gotten increasingly hasbroish who the fuck knows.
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>>98204725
>I'm assuming like £200+ of books and card tat
Nah fuck that. Download newrecruit or listforge, and use wahapedia. Don't pay GW for physical rules they errata before they even hit the shelf.
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>really like assembling my little GSC infantry dudes
>really like mashing shit together for kitbashes to make my dudes even more special (in all meanings of the word)
>really like to use the fancy detailed necromunda models to spice up my army
>tfw really like planning what colors I want to paint them
>mfw it comes time to actually paint all the teeny tiny details with my monkey hands shaking from my IV drip of caffeine
>mfw finally finished batch painting a 10 man squad and then realized I had only painted 9 of them
>mfw only a gorillion more to go
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>>98204725
>barely played into 9th
>skipped 10
>already thinking of spending 200 bucks on rules with the assumption that he's gonna play more of this edition

Sure go ahead

In all seriousness: all you need will can be found online. As usual: main rule book + up to date army rule & stratagems/detachments
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>>98204742
>Used my Genestealer Eschers in my 40k game
>That Guy at locals folds his arms, huffs and outloud says "more gooner foid models in a game thats supposed to be the aescetic mans retreat"
People who fear GSC kitbashes are cowards.
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>>98204754
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>>98204754
Crimson Fists are mexicans, not knights.
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>>98204754
imperial fists are just ultramarines in negative colours, while crimson fists are blue and red because blue conveys space and red is bloody cool

it's not deeper than that, marines are not good space knights
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>>98204754
>>98204757
I can tell you have an ai art avatar for all your racist social media accounts bro.
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>>98204757
>knights templar
Why is trench crusade lore being mixed up with 40k lore?
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>>98204752
>more gooner foid models in a game thats supposed to be the aescetic mans retreat
lmao
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>>98204754
>>98204757
is this part of an expanded list of a bunch of chapters that share similarities with historical organizations or is it only these guys?
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>>98204754
>>98204757
>When you are a little faschboi and want your griftdaddys to like and endorse your plastic dollies hobby
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>>98204764
>trench crusade
who?
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>>98204752
Nice gals anon.
>grab random box from the shelf for Neophyte fodder
>don't even have to think about WYSIWYG fags since anything and everything is a hybrid firearm
We must truly have the most adaptable infantry models.
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>>98204776
Iron Warriors.
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>>98204778
I once took the big shovel drill from one of the GSC vehicles and put it on my Brood Brothers Leman Russ purely for aesthetic reasons and the amount of guard players i saw shit themselves about it was shockingly high. They fear our kitbashing power.
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>>98204754
>>98204757
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>>98204752
>local That Guy doesn't want a harem of badass warrior women hopped up on horny xeno hormones existing around him
Sounds pretty gay, desu
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Are aircraft units glorified tokens now? I finally assembled a Stormraven and wanted to get a Stormtalon as well but flyers seem to be useless now. Aircraft being worse and worse seems to be trend and GW clearly has no idea what to do with them.
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>>98204754
Tempted to do an Eldar parody comparing their subfactions to random anime bullshit but I don't actually know enough anime
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>>98204785
Nice, I bet that tank looked cool as hell
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>>98204752
>Genestealer Eschers
What have i missed in this edition of Necromunda?
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>>98204789
Some of them might actually be a little better now. Several also lost the aircraft rules entirely and are now just hover vehicles with high speed.
Will come down to points costs as always though, as a lot of aircraft just have had their points arbitrarily high for a long time to keep people from trying to use them competitively. See: the five successive Voidraven Bomber nerfs until people stopped fucking using them in tournaments.
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>>98204754
>>98204757
Knowing the guys who came up with warhammer & 40k were big history nerds, I wouldn't be surprised if this was mostly correct. Except dark angels.
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We should make a new place to store the old collage pics. We could find all the old ones in the archive.
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>>98204783
Iron warriors are french?
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>>98204811
Could just add a folder in the mega or somethin'
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>>98204765
Eldar of all kinds have always been the designated choice of faggots.
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>>98204811
What was the previous place and what happened to it?
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>>98204795
NTA and I don't follow Necromunda outside of browsing the model selection for kitbashes now and then, but it seems like the turbo-aids irradiated Malstrain GSC influence is a relatively recent addition to the game.
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>>98204814
Always have been
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>>98204833
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK-sezRKY18
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>>98204795
A few years back they added some campaign leaning books that turned the game from another competitive skirmish into a soft-rpg kind of deal.

One of those "The Book of Ruin" has rules for corrupting gangs in various ways. Maybe a new preacher with a blue bird tattoo joins your church lads, or a wierd sump creature bits your ganger and it spreads wierd three cluster boils or maybe a genestealer hiding in the vents that escaped Hive Secundus gives your gang queen the genestealers kiss.

Basically genestealer or chaos aligned gangs that lose access to some things but gain other stuff. My genestealer eschers for example have the gang queen as a psyker with a familiar and a abberrant as the "little brother" in the gang.

Its been a while but i think chaos gangs have a rare chance for a ganger to randomly burst and turn into a chaos spawn but at the end of the match it just runs off into the tunnels and you have to buy a new ganger.
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>>98204763
>>98204774
Space Marines (and Knights) are so damn cool and these mentally ill marxists whose hair dye has seeped into their brains want to ruin them by making them women (which they will never be). Sad!
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>>98204795
Genestealers existing on Necromunda is old news. Iirc they were speculated to exist there for decades.

GW also did recently introduce the Malstrain, which are basically horrifically fucked up looking genestealers that are mutated to hell and back.
The reason why they are like that is that Necromunda got its lore expanded and there used to be a Hive Secundus on the planet which rivaled the Hive Primus.
However some Inquisitor (as usual) and some techpriest dude decided it was a good idea to bring genestealers to Necromunda to study them in the hopes of finding a cure for the genestealer "kiss/plague".
The techpriest dude fucked around with the genestealer genetics to change them but he got careless and got infected.
That caused the Cult of the Second Son to form, which then took over the entirety of Hive Secundus and they were trying to expand from it.

It got so bad that then Lord Helmawr used the Necromunda's space station which is armed with all sorts of DAoT crap and they decided to Glass the entirety of Hive Seduncus in an attempt to exterminate the genestealer threat and prevent it from spreading. And then set up a fuck huge giant wall perimeter around the former city to prevent anyone getting in or out of Secundus. The fortification was also in part created and manned by the Imperial Fists.

The said fucked DAoT weapons, radiation, fucked up chemicals and the gene edits the techpriest dude had made then created the Malstrain genestealers, who mainly exist within the ruins of Secundus.

But there have started to be rumors that Malstrain have made their way to Hive Primus and are slowly infesting it.
But Necromunda does get regular 'Stealers too, some form regular GS cults, but some of the genestealers who land get influenced by the pre-existing broodmind created by the Malstrain Patriarch (it survived the destruction of Secundus btw) on the planet and then wander towards it.
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>>98204843
>turned the game from another competitive skirmish into a soft-rpg kind of deal
Lol, lmao. Why people feel the need to discuss topics when they have no knowledge whatsoever? Nucromunda was never a skirmish game and definitely was not even trying to be a competitive game. Just like the Oldcromunda, it was a narrative game since day 0.
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With all this talk of genestealer cults, what are some good ideas for cult ambush markers? I barely used them in 10th since it just seemed better to use the strategic reserves entry rule and everything had deepstrike, but maybe I'd have more fun with them if I had some neat markers to use.
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>>98204833
Who's the Count of Monte Cristo of 40k?
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>>98204783
Iron knights
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>>98204869
Count Mordrek in fantasy, he has no 40k equivalent so no one
just kidding never read count of monte cristo so dunno what his character is
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>>98204754
Knights of Santiago are from Leon, Spain, not fucking Portugal.
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>>98204863
When the reboot happened it was orgionally a complete mess of ideas with some team members wanting a hardcore narrative system and the others wanting yet another fucking warhammer skirmish game and the rules were famously a complete and utter mess because of it. Theres a reason they replaced the core rulebook without doing a new edition.
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>>98204897
Spain is just eastern Portugal.
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Anyone ever try using that nail art stamping shit for putting stuff on IG-sized infantry? Having one unlimited use stamping plate that I can use with any color sounds much better than collecting a ton of those transfer sheets. I've never used a transfer sheet, and I figure it would be better to jump straight to learning how to do the stamping shit if it's just a better way of doing little icons and lettering.
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>>98204903
Portugal is just sourthern Galicia. As if we didn't have enough with mexicans trying to claim the CF as their chapter, now we have to deal with tugas as well
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whats this months collage theme?
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>>98204860
Don't forget that the Malstrain is why the hive fleets actively avoid Necromunda despite it being one of the most important strategic hubs outside forge worlds for military hardware and weapons manufacture. They can sense the fucked up patriarch and actively avoid it because they dont want to get any of those genes intergrated into the hive ships during the late stage consumption of a world.
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>>98204913
quick and nimble
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>>98204672
I mean that he didn't like Space Marines. He was shitting on most chapters. I don't think he said a good word about any chapter.

>>98204676
Seems pretty hard to paint for a beginner.
>>98204692
They look easier to paint and probably play. If I tried Drukhari I would surely fuck them up.
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>>98204916
>tfw GW opens the door for /my dudes/ to be a cult that hive fleets avoid and stay completely canon
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>>98204897
I think he got it mixed up with the Order of Saint James of the Sword
Like The Knights of Santiago are named after the patron saint of Spain man, even I know that as a filthy anglo
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>>98204923
Frankly i'll be shocked if they don't put out a white dwarf article for malstream GSC the same way they did that Necron destroyer army a year or two back.
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GSC infected Ogryn when? It's not right that our abominants and aberrants are manlets in comparison.
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>>98204916
Methstealers are the peak after the peak that is genestealer design in general.
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>>98204944
The real fucked up thing is letting genestealer gangs even get an aberrant in necromunda since they are capable of bringing down a space marine in terminator armor if they get some good hits in.
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>>98204919
>seems hard to paint for a beginner
It's harder than a regular scheme, but to be fair it's not that complicated, the trick is the places the two colors meet and keepting that a clean transition. That's usually done through cleaning it or just using tape
>paint yellow part, with a bit extra to be sure
>place tape
>paint the red
>remove tape
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>>98204818
>xir looks at one of the most attractive women and call it gay
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>>98204946
I really like their look, especially the patriarch with his gooner arm, but I'm torn on the back "spikes" they have. It almost makes me think that someone took a soldering iron to pull out strands of the plastic or something.
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>>98204946
I know its very simple and just minis, but them positioning the minis and angling the camera like this made a really great image.
It has those good creepy vibes to it.

A fucked up inhuman creature with lifeless eyes, dwelling in the shadows behind the corner as a soldier is thinking about peeking around the corner not knowing what horror awaits him on the other side.
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>>98204822
IIRC the guy who hosted the community page left after lamentitties left because he didn't want to share a general with decalfag
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>>98204913
>>98204918
And blanchitsu
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We have Tau and their xeno allies as the 'rival empire faction thats multi-racial'
But what we need is an alien alliance faction that just
>interstellar terrorists
No hard borders, no government, no population centers, no big war fleets
Just guerrilla terrorists living in empty/ abandoned/forgotten Imperium bases. Living off the supplies they can steal, scavange and threaten for. With a few utterly deranged rogue traders or a xeno inquister helping them here and there. Dedciated to bringing down the Imperium of man
And they are led by The Starchild
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Eldar are cool as shit but their lore gets to a point where collecting them feels like collecting crumbling books with how close all of them seem to death. Come on GW, I want to buy your plastic, can you at least give them a valid endgame that isn't just they die? Maybe just make spirit stones renewable locally for the really powerful craftworlds? Otherwise if I'm homebrewing a craftworld the only reasonable win condition I can give them in their lore is "and then they survived until life in the galaxy ended and chaos was no longer a problem". I like my guys, I don't want them to be doomed to mega hell no matter what unless a generous dark eldar comes along and regrows them. At least the Tau don't have their souls bound to mega hell.
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>>98204976
That's basically genestealer cults if the nids don't show up.
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>>98204964
The giant malstrain nid we have is actually the Malstrain Alpha.
We don't actually know what the actual Malstrain Patriarch looks like. It's pure headcanon but it wouldn't surprise me if the Patriarch doesn't even resemble a tyranid anymore and is more like a horrific flesh blob ala Resident Evil that is continuously mutating and growing larger as its body envolopes and becomes part of the structures around it.
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>>98204964
It's meant to invoke the imagery of an insectoid thats succumbed to a fungal infection
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>>98204978
>meanwhile GSC has zero named characters because their win condition is becoming a snack
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>>98204959
Thanks for the advice, anon. I will actually look into this. Maybe make a knight successor chapter and have all the benefits of being able to play as any chapter?
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>>98204980
No. they aren;t a group of different xenos, just the same alien-human hybrids at different generations.
GSC are all about having a population base. They usurp the normal population growth and live in socieites. They are not a terrorist organisation, they're a public hijacking cult.
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>>98204994
the female magus and the pistoler should be made into special characters I say
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>>98204897
In most peoples mind Portugal and Spain are the same, just like people think all scandi countries are the same. Same with Germany, Austria etc. You can't blame them too much.
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>>98204985
Oh fuck.
>inb4 the patriarch is released with an absolutely sick model, but it's way too big to be used as a 40k patriarch proxy
>>98204993
That makes sense, but idk it still feels like they went too far with it. Other than that one aspect, I really like what they did with the models and how they really emphasized that fucked up "blind cave degenerate" look they have.
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>>98204985
Theres been some stuff suggesting the Patriarch is actually the identity of that thing from the core rules that doesn't have a model because its just a massive blob that eats its way through underhive settlements just rules for something its better to run from than combat.
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>>98205013
>that thing from the core rules that doesn't have a model because its just a massive blob that eats its way through underhive settlements
The what? can you post something referencing that thats the first ive heard of it
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>>98205018
I havent read the original '18 core rules in years and its got this super vague name like "the thing from hab 108" or something but basically its a reference to the random abberant shit in Metro 2033. Sometimes gangers return home from scrounging runs looking for ghast or whatever with tales of a spotless level of the underhive near the sump with no people, no rust not even grime and it looks so new and inviting and safe.

Then the older gangers exchange a look and have to explain the horrific trap they avoided by not going further into "its" hunting grounds.
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>>98204341
Look at a black armored surface on something large like a submarine or a b2 spirit bomber. The center of the panel facing the eye, that would be reflecting directly at you if it were any other color, should be the darkest black, no reflection. But the parts of that panel you see at an angle should have refraction. So basically take a makeup sponge and sponge on some black mixed with brown around the outside (for warm colored environment,) or black with green (for cool colored environment.) And lastly edge highlight with a cool grey for sunlight or a colored grey if you’re doing OSL, make thicker edges in the direction of your light source and barely visible ones on the other side if any.
tl;dr reverse volumetric highlights with blackest black where you’d normally put a highlight, and environmentally toned black toward the periphery.
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>>98205028
Actually i just remembered is not the core rules but book of ruin. Its "The Beast of Badzone 12". Something nobody knows the origins of, people tell tales that its a entire chaos cult turned into one giant chaos spawn, but the whole point of the book is that nobody knows there even IS a genestealer infestation that escaped secundus so more dripfeeds over the years intimate its a "missing the forest for the trees" deal where people see big mutant nightmare and go "surely its the warp, what else could it be?" and by the time Secundus dropped it becomes clear theres a lot of bad shit underground that has nothing to do with chaos at all.

The assumption is in its own fucked up way this create is still trying to fulfill its genestealer programming but actually fuctions more like the bits on a hive fleet ship that consume all biomatter on a world, like a cancer it eats and grows but doesn't really think.
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>Abomination of Zone 12
>This illustration was for the Necromunda Book of Ruin. There are many foul things that live in the depths of the underhive and the Abomination of Zone 12 is one such entity. Some say it is the remains of the cult of the Sump mother. A group who worship the sump as a deity. Now their bodies fused into a single horrific entity it stalks the under hive searching for food in any form. This is one of my favourite illustrations that i did for Necromunda. It was a fun opportunity to feature some of the environment of the under hive and show the dark claustrophobia that the game takes place in. All rights to Games Workshop PLC.

I don't think it's got anything to do with genestealers
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>>98204070
>human face
I'm so sick of fake xenosfuckers
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>>98205056
Might be a Dark Eldar experiment.
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>>98204995
That's the big idea of why I want to start howling griffons: a standard marine force I can play as anything. Since I actually want to try ultramarines with a unique flavor and not just the default codex chapter
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>>98205082
nothing to do with dark eldar either

the setting is bigger than just the factions we have
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Since GW decided to merge Combat Engineers & Grenadiers, I wanted to try making an oldschool Combat Engineer in the nukrieg style.

The kneepads could use some change/repositioning and the head/helmet are gonna need extra work, but I'm not too displeased with the rest.
Shoulder pads inspired by the old jes goodwin imperial army sketches, as I was looking for a lighter/smaller shoulder pad to mimick the old FW engies.

R8 my shit
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>>98205056
To be fair like the anon above said the cult thing is just in-universe speculation.
In your green text it specifically says
>SOME say it is the remains of the cult of the Sump mother.
This could all be wrong.
And like he said, it could very well just be humans living in the underhive attributing all fucked up mutation shit to the Warp/psykers/chaos, when in reality it could be more mundane and more horrific.
Aka it's an inhuman alien monstrosity so horribly mutated by radiation, pollution and things beyond their comprehension, that it created a bastardized parody of a life form, that it no longer resembles anything recognizable as a human or a even xenos.
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>we will punish players for taking 3 or 6 of something, please buy a spread of things!
cha'ching
>we are bringing back HEROHAMMER! everyone gets a bloodthirster tier character(marines) with a retinue they can make sure they can live until turn eleven!
cha'ching
>last edition vehicles were GREAT right? RIGHT?... now 11th edition is going to be GREATER!* (buy different stuff now or else)
cha'ching

I think I'm going to run 1k lists when I get back into the game. It'll consist of blanket tyranids with spinefist gaunts and hormagaunts. Roughly 4 termagaunt units, 3 hormagaunt units, prime with whip+alien cunning and a ripper swarm to finish points.

Swarms at 1k are harsher than swarms at 2k. People cannot take their biggie boys so easily and they'll lose if they do it at 1k. I'm starting to think 1k is the way to go. I'll warn people about the list before playing at the start until they get to know my playstyle.
>better to move around 142 models instead of 300+ models at 2k.
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>>98205125
750 - 1k - 1.5k is where it's at.
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>>98204357
Gotta love the Codster! Ya just gotta!
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>>98204818
>finding women attractive is actually gay
This is your brain on contrarianism
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>>98204978
>valid endgame that isn't just they die?
Settling maiden worlds, maybe even recovering the tech to terraform more
>spirit stones renewable locally for the really powerful craftworlds?
The best you can do is say that your guys are particularly good at running into the eye of terror and snatching up spirit stones.
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>>98203680
You struck a nerve. He's still recoiling from you exposing him.
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>>98201833
A decimator with round armour and flesh everywhere would lust be a hellbrute



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