Previous: >>98197842Simic Precognition Edition>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Gay Bolashttps://files.catbox.moe/823tpq.png>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: What's a card you would add to, or remove from, the GC list?
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98203197TQ I’d just want to reprint most game changers in bulk and put all non limited partner legends and eminence legends on the game changer list and reprint those in bulk too.Pic rel my Tataru Taru choco foil is almost $400 aud in value, definitely selling when it caps out.
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Just started building my first edh deck ever and I'm irrationally annoyed that he isn't a ranger or an assassin
>>98203586forgot pic...
>>98203586>UBsloppa>do thing, draw cardPicking the absolute bottom to start, eh?
>>98203588Why would you build a commandlet? This dude is 5'5" at the absolute maximum
I never realized how few enchantment/equipment tutors white/green had before I started building muscle mommy.
>>98203592indeed, I figured it'd be pretty easy to throw every fight/bite/black instant removal common into a pile and come away with something playable. also I opened a Hollowmurk Siege last year.I do wish it wasn't a Marvel character, even though I liked Spider-Man as a kid.
>>98203603Raven is canonically flat 6' even
>>98203629Maybe in some other M U L T I V E R S E but the dude in that card art is itty bitty. Just look at his head size and arm length vs his torso.
>>98203588This is just Chevill but worse
>>98203628I built that exact deck in brawl in like 5 minutes and proceeded to win 50+ games in a row lmao, he's a great commander for 1v1 at leastHe actually has a pretty cool Universes Within variant from Brawl you could proxy if you wanted (pic related)
Rank 3 bruh holy shitShe's just a few thousand entries away from overtaking Edgar Markov and The Ur-Dragon
>>98203197>TQ: What's a card you would add to, or remove from, the GC list?I'd kill the bracket system
>>98203850She can't keep getting away with this!
What commander would you recommend for "Threeanimator"?
>>98203841Oh here's my decklist btwhttps://moxfield.com/decks/48SeAahoJ3iiSV7YVL2IaAIt's an arena list though, so it only has cards from like the last 6 years or something like that.
>>98203856The whole point of reanimator decks is to cheat big creatures into play for cheap, Threeanimator doesn't really have a commander that gives you a good enough payoff to justify the self-nerf
>>98203861its fun though
>Enemy turn 1 strip mines my temple of triumph>I recover but he counters my commander>I play Ruinous Ultimatum while he had a single 2 drop and the other two players have multiple creatures and expensive enchantments>Counterspells itHow would you respond?
>>98203839it's chevill but better
I'm gonna build not-Aquaman!
>>98203866Your own fault for trying to have fun while the blue player has open mana
>>98203866I'd concede at turn 1
>>98203197>tqSol ring
>>98203918congrats no one plays anything under bracket 3 now
>>98203856Do you just mean aristocrats?
>>98203866I don't play with someone dumb enough to think pitbull gameplay is a winning strategy. I'm here to enjoy relax time with Timmy and/or a battle of wits with knowledgable players. Not some midwit chasing the high of "third place" because he wasted all his resources sabotaging his own position to set someone else back.
>>982039211/6 players would be unaffected.
>>98203866By having an open discussion with him about threat assessment that's really just calling him retarded.
>>98203921>people would be unwilling to take out sol ring in order to make their decks bracket 2 or lessI've already done it without bracket incentizes. Wouldn't take much.
>>98203197>TQI just really don't think blood moon and some other hard drawn land mass denial is that big of a deal. I think people are kinda just pussies.
Would you say this is a B3 or a B4 deck?https://moxfield.com/decks/IKXVilvf5EG0bZdiXmv24wI have to admit it's a bit salty with my friends when I board wipe their creatures with my blight counters.I believe it's my strongest commander so far(I'm so planning on adding Dionus and Elvish Harbinger and it will be complete)Thoughts?
>hunting through cardmarket sellers for hours to save 2€ in shipping>>98203197>tqThassa's Oracle since it's obsolete with current bracket definition.
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>>98203850"Oh no lemme enchant her with curiosity and draw 5 cards every turn."Is it really that hard to believe she's #3 and climbing?
>>98203850The Ur-Dragon and Markov are just relics of older commander and a lot of people don't play them anymore. Yshtola is the queen.
>>98203197>TQWhy is Farewell a game changer but this shit card banned?
>>98204067This might offend a magical negro!
>>98204067It's too powerful as a one-sided boardwipe for only 4 mana.
>>98203856>>98203861
>>98204067feels
>>98203880>>98203905>>98203935>>98203941I asked him why he did all that and his response was>Because it’s funnyI spent the rest of the game spite playing to make sure he lost. I came in third but he came fourth.
>>98204194>I came in third but he came fourth.funny way to say that you both just lost
>>98204219If someone turn 1 strip mines me all bets are off. That's just the way it is.
friends don't let friends play strip mine
>>98204067Farewell is anime.
>>98204239You need to run some land destruction in your deck to stop fags with Gaea's Cradle or Field of the Dead from stomping your tablr
Motivated by those anons some days ago I finally sold everything and bought a car. It's a bit surreal yet liberating but I'm having fun going places. I guess it's goodbye from this internet floating text box. It's been fun fighting with you fags
>>98204245just ban both
>>98204245Wasteland and Demolition Field are right there.
>>98204245>>98204239I prefer demo field because it's less salt since they get a basic and it replaces itself too so I'm not short a land.
>>98204277hell yeahgood job anon
>>98204285Side note: between DOM/DMR, BRO and DMU there's an overflowing amount of soul.
>>98204277why the fuck did you own so much cash in cardboard? if I sold everything cardboard related right now I couldnt even afford a month of rent.
>>98203603He's clearly 4'3"
>>98204067It got banned for racism during the floyd stuff when companies were bending over backwards to show how unracist they were probably because some made a connection between the name and the removal of black creatures as racial cleansingi still need to get one, i have 3 of the cards that were black holed and should get the rest
>>98203628What the fuck is a hollowmurk and why are they fighting over it?
>>98204322Why is it depicting a pitched battle when the name of the card is siege
>>98204300This, and my rent is dirt cheap
>>98204300It wasn't "so much" (~6k€ got a used ford), but it actually is to me and my finances. Idk how did I own that much honestly, I wasn't even speccing just buying good cards over the years. But cards are so expensive now.
>>98204298It's because dominaria is the true heart of magic not ravnica. Also dom was made with Garfield and a bunch of original designers brought back
>>98203628if you choose to copy this enchantment, do you get to choose the other option as the copy enters?(as in, if the first enchantment is already on the battlefield. afaik you can't choose another option if you copy it on the stack)
>>98204335why isn't it a Battle
>>98204426what does the card say, anon
>>98204458I mean it says that as THE enchantment enters you choose one, but I don't know whether that means that future copies are the same mode which was chosen then.
>>98204462you're supposed to read all the letters in the word, not just the first two and hope for the best
Here I was thinking Intet's trigger cost 2U but apparently you're supposed to just pay three dollars instead.
>>98204300I have ~£3000/$4000 in cards right now and that's like 8 months rentIs your rent absurd or do you just own a couple hundred cards?
i have no cards over 100$ but i have an awful lot of cards in the 10-20$ range. im really scared to digitize my collection and get an approximation of how much i've splurged in the last 3 years.
>>98204318I still need to track down a copy of this version of Crusade.
My nigga Shadow found two new best friends this set.Im actually a little upset that Jocasta is basically a better Interceptor.
>>98203197So where is a good place to get custom card art printed?
>picked up Teferi's Puzzle Box my store just got in because I remember wanting it for something>don't remember why I wanted itThis happens too often.
>>98204686looks like a really strong and cheap commander for all these kind of effects
>>98204686cant wait to make retards playing this rage with fog loops because they thought all they had to do to win was have an indestructible commander
>>98204735questing beast
>>98204743green players are generally too stupid to know that exists
>>98204735This does not answer my question
>>98204686Check the OP for the proxy pastebin
>>98204067No sun rays and clouds. The drawing is horrific and the flavor text is retarded
>>98204067luckily toothy evil guy survived the cleansing. look how happy he is with his wife. :)
>>98204743It's neat.
>>98204917There's so much stuff from Ice Age that's never been reprinted, it's fucked up.
>>98205106Yeah, im just looking now and its neat
>>98205162cumulative upkeep is an awesome design with a lot of space (like braid of fire style benefit-costs) but it involves players being humans that can keep track of small numbers so they hate it (they will continue to push +1+1 counter or storm slop)
>>98204285Should be in every deck just incase
>>98204318I remember trying to buy all those cards after that happened, half of my orders got canceled, thankfully I got my Invoke Prejudice still. My Cleanse actually allegedly shipped out but got lost in the mail, had to go through TCGPlayer for a refund. Then I found like 20 white border Gypsies in the bulk drawers at my LGS.
Commander variant:Commanders cannot in anyway give you card draw, or put cards in your hand.
>>98205289Good thing my commander tutors to play and/or manacheats!
>>98205289players just need to wisen up to the fact that card advantage is generally the most valuable resource in the game and stop hitting players "because they have the most life"
>>98203934threeanimator is an archetype that uses cards like unearth etc to revive pain in the ass 3cmc and lower creatures like barrowgoyf and ocelot pride and serra ascendent
>>98205317I wish my friends hit each other at all. They hate attacking for some strange reason. I need to sell one of them on an Isshin deck or something and then maybe the murderous rage will spread like a virus.
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>>98205348> They hate attacking for some strange reason.in most pods being aggressive is bad because players see the person who's moving life totals as the threat which is usually not correct (depending on pod meta). you know you're just going to get put down cards by swinging at people because some retard thinks being a card down is worth setting back a turn clock from 12 to 13. seriously read the expressions on how scared people are of 10/10s even though it will be 4 turns before that 10/10 can kill a single player.
I'm thinking of buying one of the Marvel precons, but should I wait until they go down in price, or will they only go up in price? Most precons go down in price eventually, but that doesn't seem to be the case with UB precons, the Final Fantasy and Fallout precons at my store are now more expensive than they used to be.
>>98204426if something enters as a copy of a siege, you get to choose between the two options when it enters the previous choice doesn't get copied so you still only get one effect per enchantment.if something becomes a copy of a siege after it enters, like Mirage Mirror, you get nothing.There's a ruling about this on the TDM sieges, as well as one from the original siege cycle in FRF which goes into more detail:>The words “Khans” and “Dragons” are anchor words, connecting your choice to the appropriate ability. Anchor words are a new rules concept. “[Anchor word] — [Ability]” means “As long as you chose [anchor word] as this permanent entered the battlefield, this permanent has [ability].” Notably, the anchor word “Dragons” has no connection to the creature type Dragon.>Each of the last two abilities is linked to the first ability. They each refer only to the choice made as a result of the first ability. If a permanent enters the battlefield as a copy of one of the Sieges, its controller will make a new choice for that Siege. Which ability the copy has won’t depend on the choice made for the original permanent.>(2014-11-24)>>98204322>>98204335>>98204457Not all of the original Siege cards looked quite like sieges either. Maybe the Sultai are defending those spire-looking things on the right? I dunno
Bros can I get some pointers on this guy?Played a couple of games today and it just didn't click.https://moxfield.com/decks/iN_6yH4Qz0mNmMzbUHFhmAWe play mostly high 2/low 3 ish.
>>98203878Namor predates Aquaman.
>>98204947He also has a little brother now
>>98205565Questing Beastlet
>>98203197>TQ: What's a card you would add to, or remove from, the GC list?REMOVE>Balance>Erayo>Flash>Iona>Jeweled Lotus>Karakas>Leovold>Limited Resources>Mana Crypt>Nadu>Primeval Titan>Recurring Nightmare>Zesty Elf>Sundering Titan>Sylvan Primordial
What's the redpill?
>>98205631>remove prime timeJustify this.
>>982039885 cards? Bro what?
>>98205565That dude carried me so hard during the EOE prerelease.
>>98205631>remove flashI dunno about this anon
>>98205801is flash that good if you then ban protein hulk
My merfu
>>98205824I can't imagine how a 2 mana instant that says "trigger any etb or ltb" might cause issues. Surely Memory Jar was the problem and not Tinker.
>>98205824You know how WUBRG Ashling is really good because it gives you multiple ETBs and LTBs on any elemental for 4 mana?Yeah.
>>98205863For a legendary mythic that costs 6 mana that's a mightily unimpressive textbox.
>>98205927nowadays itd be a 3 mana legendary rare
>>98205933Yeah I can see that.
>>98205334Oh, I thought it was running all the multireanimator cards like picrel
>>98205521I'd play lower cmc aristocrats stuff, but it's just kind of a shit commander to be honest.
>>98205710He's fine but you're trading versatility for efficiency.
There are some powerful mythic merfolk tho
>>98205795Nta but 1 from draw step, 3 from her last ability, 1 from her second ability.
>>98203856I mean
>>982057953 cards from curiosity the 3cmc was a draw spell is it really that difficult?
>>98205927>have a 6 power creature out (probably costs 4 mana because green)>Zegana enters>gets 6 counters>draws 7 cardsIt's really not that bad. Basically picrel on a creature.
>go over to my friend's stinky house>my playmat is now stinky
I swear to god why am I looked at like I'm insane asking if a seller or store has a Token Bulk. None at the convention I went to for memorial weekend, none in the last 3 LCS, what gives.
>>98205989I'm upgrading my precon of her and I hope it goes well
>>98204474I knew there was a reason Oros hated him...
>>98206164I'm so happy my buddy's wife likes to hosts parties in their big house. We get something cooked for the group everytime and it's very clean. Some of the people I meet up with for marketplace deals are not the kind of people I'm trying to play this game with.
>>98206164they're machine washable
mmmmmmmm mailday
>>98206649>mail >on a sundayWHAT.
>>98206659Had to ship them to family, can't have the wife knowing what I'm spending. Just had a chance to grab them today.
>>98205989>>98206545I unironically keep Terra as my unupgraded precon to battle randos who show up with base precons. It's feels pretty nice for a 2. The part I really like about it is that you're never mana screwed. You hit 3 mana, run out terra, and she's does her thing filling the graveyard and resurrecting random effect creatures. And you're force to attack to use the effect. I think its my favorite of the final fantasy precons to play with or against. The FFX one looks sick, but I'm too much of a brainlet for counters. :(
>>98206649Mail from yesterday.
>>98206649Side note: despite making up 20% of Bretagard's clans, the Skelle are represented on only 8% of the clans' creature cards.
Why are tutors predominantly monoblack? Like what's the rationale there?
>>98206710I have Cloud as my un-upgragded precon I really like Terra but I saw some cards that were really good for her come out so I decided to finally upgrade her.
Do buyfags really?
>>98206718one of my favorite sac outlets in atla
>>98206695Either your spending is reasonable and you're just a pussy or your spending is unreasonable and you should stop lmao
>>98206649Mail on Sunday? I got this batch yesterday.
>>98206710She can get pretty strong once you start optimizing her. Lots of fun stuff you can cheat out.
Asking this again.If you could run any card as your commander, and use sideboards that ignore color identity (so you can get any card with burning wish), what's the most miserable, toxic deck you can make that showcases how bad these rules are?
>>98206833Didn't get pics of my mail but finished Michelangelo//Donatello partners, Gut//Inspiring Leader, and Tasha the Witch Queen. Very excited to try them each out
>>98206758I dont know if I will work it into teysa or just have it in my "cool cards i own" binder.Mostly got it because it was on my wants list for a while and then the artist died
>>98206783I'll spend whatever the I want, I just don't care to hear the nagging.
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>>98206983Run doomsday as your commander to make a pile to win with either doctor doom or mike trike or something
>>98206997I'll mark you down for "pussy"
>>98207005I'll mark you down for "single".
i think i need a reactive/soft control deck to round out my decks right now. i dont want hard control or stax, but i want something reactive - more focused on removing key pieces and slowing people down than it is racing with my own engine. any commander suggestions for this? i am also really not sure how you win this playstyle without a combo win.
>>98206841That's a big gnome.
>>98207030>i am also really not sure how you win this playstyle without a combo win.You don't, and it actually gets interpreted as significantly worse than stax because it feels targeted.In short, it is a deck purpose built to make people angry.
>>98207055what would you suggest then as a deck that plays more re-actively? i want something that plays on other peoples turns and interacts with the board more than just feeling like racing engines
>>98206164I can deal with a lot of shit but one friend of a friend will constantly vape on the board while we're playing and it drives me up the goddamn wall
>>98207103tell him not to do that you pussy
>>98207114I have but he's one of those tools that just has zero consideration for other people in general. Fortunately he isn't around much so it doesn't come up often
>>98207119you sound gaped and raped. If I was at your table I would blow my vape all over your board, rub my big belly and laugh, then turn around with my pants down and shart on everything
>>98207030Just pick a commander you like that has access to blue then stuff in as much interaction as you want to put your friends through.>>98207103Ask him if he's paying for and resleeving the deck when his fag stick residue makes your sleeves stick. Idk how hard it is to just blow it in the air, or even better, get a little filter thing to blow it through if you're vaping inside. Loser.
>>98207130Look man life's too short to get in fights over stupid shit, there's a reason he doesn't get invited to most of the gatherings so I don't worry about it>>98207135>Idk how hard it is to just blow it in the air, or even better, get a little filter thing to blow it through if you're vaping inside.What gets me is that I know like a dozen former smokers that vape and he's the only one that is just a prick about it
Here's a list of multitarget removal. Some of them are pretty shit, but most are great. If anyone has any othera to add I'd appreciate it.https://moxfield.com/decks/pJ8mpcbJQUSZtMG2yRQ9hg
>>98207223where's legend of yangchen?
I don't reuse wincons
>>98205946I mean cards like that are pretty good in the deck too
>>98205533I was way too lazy to go look that up.
>>98205927I dunno she's pretty good in my Spider-Man deck when she draws me 10 cards for 3 mana.
>>98207163>he's the only one that is just a prick about itThat's exactly it, he's a prick. I wouldn't be very happy about someone blowing their cope clouds all over my stuff. Correction via targeting seems appropriate.
>>98206649nice changs
>>98207316Punch him
>>98207320Those aren't fake lol
>>98204947>>98205565here's their retarded cousin
>>98207385God I hate comic books. So many of the flavor texts in this set perfectly show why.
This guy is so hard to evaluate. Amazing against bots. I imagine its nigh useless against human players?
>>98207385Why is EVERYTHING a legendary in UB sets? Granted I don't play standard, but doesn't this "oops all legendaries" shit make it a bitch to play?
>>98207568>>98207609maybe
>>98207609Because they're all named characters, which is what the whole "Legend" thing was created for in the first place. The problem is, with bringing in UB, everyone wants to see their favorite niche character who was only in one issue of a X-Men side story in 1973 make an appearance in MTG, which is just cardboard funko pops now. The worst was the Ninja Turtle set because not only did it have all the named characters as legendary, it had a dozen fucking variants of each turtle, all legendary as well. Something like 140 of the 155 creatures in that set were legendary.
>>98207619and yet yet half of FF8 didn't get a card RAGE
>>98207619Spiderman was worse than TMNT by a mile. It had literally 40 versions of spiderman.
>>98207609Not really. My standard deck has like 3 legendarys
>>98207619I don't get the comparison to funkos desu
>>98207701You don't get all the random pop culture being made into cards just for the sake of making them into collectibles?
>>98207714No because funko isn't a crossover. Nor is it a game.
>>98207729Oh, you're literally retarded.
>>98207568I have a Wernog/Bjorna deck and it fucking slaps. Flicker him several times a turn to make a ton of clues to spend on stuff like pic rel or very quickly drain the table. Candlekeep Sage is an incredible card with him
Can't post pic because retarded 15 year old rule but with R*inbow D*sh:>Whenever a creature you control with flying and/or haste attacks, you get 20% cooler. (You start at 0% coolness.)>Sonic Rainboom — Tap: If you’re at least 100% cool, add WURBG, draw a card, and reset your coolness.If I have clones of her out and 100+% coolness, can I tap all those clones at the same time and get 2+ cards/10+ mana? Or would only the first one resolve?
>>98207734Many people, me included, have posted the MLP Magic cards. What the fuck are you talking about?
>>98207742And I've seen people banned for posting them in this thread.
>>98207734I believe that yes you could benefit from the copies, since they're just checking for a state (coolness) and the coolness is not being paid to activate the ability, just the state being reset after the abilit resolves.So activating one and then activating the copies in response, should all see the 100+% coolness and have their abilities go off.
>>98207734Activating the ability can be done at any time, but coolness is checked on resolution. Basically no, the first one resets your coolness and the rest see the reset value.
>>98207753This was my assumption too but I want to have all my ducks in a row rules wise before I build it to trigger my friend pod.
>>98207759Well that sucks. I wanted to do clones.
>>98207731Not an argumentFortnite is a far better example.
>>98207823literally retarded
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>>98207732I hate 4c though
>>98207830It's really only 4c to include all the blue flicker cards (and I was doing the 32 deck challenge and nothing else seemed interesting in that 4c combo). I've only cast Bjorna like twice ever
>>98207609Because Marvel is entirely about the characters. There's no world building or interest aside from that. If you like the characters and seeing them makes you basedpog, that's fine. From the position of someone on the outside looking in, this is just a bunch of Glup Shittos with random effects in their text boxes.
Really surprised Dark Ritual isn't a more expensive card
>>98207568>>98207732I've been brewing this for a while now. Mostly as clueslop/Breyalite. He seems pretty good. There's always some retard that will take the bait if my experience with Tempt With Discovery serves me right.
>>98207729MTG isn't really a crossover either, the UB sets aren't interacting with the MTG setting or with other UB settings
>>98207877It's been reprinted so many times at low rarities, it's hard to justify it being particularly expensive.
>>98207879It was very funny flickering him several times in the first time playing him and people going "hell yeah free clues for card draw" only for me to drop a Broodstar on turn 4 with 16 clues out. And even then people only started to not take the clues when I played my first of the cards in >>98207732 this image
>>98207951he cute
>>98207951Kino. I'm also a big fan of this nigga. Haven't played the deck yet, but goldfishing he seems slappy.
>>98208074Oh he's definitely in the deck as well, alongside her. If I find someone without any blockers (or without flying/reach to block some dipshit 1/1 spirit token) then okay gg
>>98208074that costs 7 more than I want to pay for a card
How hipster are you?
>>98208103Not every deck needs to be some turbo sweaty winmore bullshit pile, anon. Some people like to have fun
>>98208112Why yes, I DID built him because of that one article that showcased the Lure+Rampage combo effect. It's as dumb, fun, and cheesy as it looked. Giving him trample is hilarious, especially trample and deathtouch
>>98208112Why do you keep posting this fake image when Agent 13 is the first white legend? The #0001 is right there in the bottom left.
>>98208103Nigga your an artifact deck. Ramp.
>>98207714Just because you can collect Magic cards does not inherently make them a collectable though.
>>98207752You're literally mentally retarded.
>>98208103>has a shitload of artifacts>doesn't know how to generate a shitload of mana>doesn't take Affinity/improvise into accountHoly shit PLEASE get good at the game it's not hard, my god anon
Why does WotC have such blatant bias against UB cards?>Key to the Vault looks at as many cards as you dealt damage>Provides infinite manacheat afterward>Buster Sword draws one card no matter what>Manacheat is capped by damage dealt
>>98208202Gotta introduce blatant, massive power creep in order to convince people to buy the shitty new cards. That way they can brag to the shareholders how much money they're making and make even more, worse, UB sets
>>98208202wow, now what if you're not playing blue?
>>98208202these are two different effects, anon. why are you trying to compare power this way?
>>98208178>nobody has ever been banned for violating a rule!
>>98208211But Buster Sword came after.>>98208215>Blue gets objectively better cards at everything because... it just does!
>>98208224>But Buster Sword came after.And it's objectively better. Anyone who says otherwise is extremely bad at evaluating cards
>>98208226>Actually infinite manacheat that looks at half your deck is worse than manacheating one card limited by damageBluefags, everyone.
>>98208232>creates infinite mana to create infinite power for infinite draw>uses it to attack one person and not just win the game with a spellI hate talking about the game with bad players
>>98208236>Look at your entire deck and play any card you want for free>Draw 1 card and maybe play a cheap spell for freeThe bluefag will tell you these are equal.
>>98208232>infinite manacheat>look at half your deck>can't cast a spell with X because you're not paying for it, hence X=0>infinite mana is now uselessholy shit please get good
How big are your creatures getting in blue? You looking at the top 2 or 3 and those are your only options to impulse? Buster sword opens up your whole hand+1. Also not legendary, also adds stats.
>>982082481/2 unblockable for 1
>>98208243>>98208232>need to deal 30+ damage to look at half your deck>"oh it's that big? okay I Path it"oh my god you're so fucking retarded. Either it's going to be chump blocked or just removed on the spot, why do you think it's even possible for this to happen? Do you play bracket 1 with little kids???
>>98208089Nice art
>>98208263y-you too
Anons, I like Zedruu, but my brother is new to magic and dropping an aggressive mining on his head t4/t5 will kill his joy for the game. Is there a way to play zedruu that doesnt involve shit like Steel Golem or other stax? Or should i give up the goat?
>>98208300You can build group hug with symmetrical bonuses like Howling Mine and Oath of Lieges. I have yet to have a single person ever complain about it.
>Blue control? I think not.
>>98208112I've been putting off Marhault for years now. Maybe I'll build him eventually...
>X = 0, Wheel of Fate>1/3 or 1/3 chance we wheel on each of my turnsI'm brewing her.https://youtu.be/Z4uzzlDq3aQ
>>98203839if by worse you mean more boring but the power level for kraven is way higherit's just, yeah, do thing draw card. pretty generic.
>>98208315I made a jank brew for her when she came out and I pulled a galaxy foil. I'm sure it's a much more playable deck with newer cards.
>>98207734yeah you would be able to do it if the "If you're at least 100% cool" part was before the colon, but it's not>>98208202FF had a lot of hyped cards but in the end it didn't make much of a splash (with the one very, very obvious exception)
When Cheville enters the battlefield or during your upkeep, put a bounty counter on target creature your opponents control.When a creature with a bounty counter leaves the battlefield, draw a card, gain 3 life, and put a bounty counter on target creature an opponent controls.There I fixed Cheville.
Is TLA the ugliest set ever made?
Black Bolt cheerios.
>>98208356yes
>>98208385lethal voice is a neat ability but otherwise just seems like a worse lyse hext
>tfw it doesn't also say "choose a creature type"Between Folk Hero and Haunted one the game would have unlimited tribal commanders.
>>98208407this should say choose two colors, give us fucking something for playing the single worst option
>>98208417It's just a stop-gap to make sure the CLB drafting actually works. You get this guy for free if you don't have any legendaries to use as your commander.
>>98208356We have some serious contenders.
My brother is becoming a father in a few months. Now my other brother wants to design a custom commander deck as a gift. The baby will be the commander and he started creating custom cards for every family member. The deck is full of convoluted mechanics and to be honest, the entire thing is absolute cringe.Have you ever done a similiar thing?
>>98208336I want to make it a bracket 4, since there's a lot of moving parts to it without being a braindead value engine.The fact that all it checks for the ability is a counter is silly, since you can just play something like thicc related to just eat those counters and load up more spells onto an attraction. Not to mention Urza and Prismari turn her into a lightweight Stormkiln.It's basically a repeatable Panoptic Mirror.
>>98208356>>98208442This whole new art genre of "take google image result #3738 and slap it on a full art card" that they've been doing for recent UB sets is the laziest and most retarded thing I've seen wizards do. Even AI generated gooner proxies with royalty free mana symbols look better.It's crazy to me that some people have Magic as their single big investment when it's never been more clear that WotC is a zombie company whose sole business strategy is to squeeze the middle age millennial manchild player base for as much money as possible before they fold.
>>98208385Why is this not>Flying, prowess, prowess?
>>98208112>Mono colorStraight unplayable trash>Allied 2cMore unplayable trash>Enemy 2cNiv and Kraj can still do ok. Maybe Vhati. The other two suck.>3c shard commandersAngus Mackenzie and Hazezon are probably fine in low power games. Wouldn't wipe my boot with the other three>3c wedge commandersAll playable but not great anymore.>5c and colorlessSliver Queen's leagues above the other trash on this list. Still a solid token engine and combo piece in a good tribe. That Karn sucks.Why omit 4c? Too new for hipster sensibilities?
>>98208468>middle age millennialAnyone else notice a demographic change in their area?There's one area I used to go to that had a nice age range of players. High schoolers to a couple oldfags. Nowadays it's consistently 30-somethings.It's gotten to the point where my mid-20s girlfriend said the last time we played that she thought she was one of the younger ones there, which blindsided the fuck out of me.
>>98205871>>98205878But isn't the only reason Flash is banned literally because hulk flash would be too good for cedh? That's their reasoning, not casual edh at all. Like I get that it's *good* but is it like broken good
>>98208468The worst offenders for this were the FF blurry 90s CGI screenshots and the TLA blurry 360p television screenshots. But by far the worst part about it is the fucking text, half the time you can't read it because they had to fucking make it borderless without a box. I hate borderless cards so much just give me a border on my cards, I prefer bordered lands over borderless too
>>98208486MTG isn't for cool people
>>98208517Some of the secret lairs are even worse. Like what the fuck does this say? I can read it if I have to but it's nearly incomprehensible.
>>98208524WotC is seriously overdue for a reminder that there's a difference between people who "aren't cool" and people who are "fucking lame."
>>98208531>people who are older than me are lame
>>98208486There was a brief surge of all ages players that came in after covid since lockdowns sparked a lot of generic interest, but a combination of>outdated game design>expense of keeping a deck >exposure to the unpleasant millennial manchildren who make up most public facing nerdslead to most of these curious casuals filtering away since 2020, and coupled with the fact that the youngest millennials are now in their mid-30s and most now visibly aging with grey hair/baldness/wrinkles it's really obvious to everyone involved in the scene that the average age of mtg players is 35-40. And now the very very late bloomers are finally peeling off too as they start geriatric families or just grow up, so the public player base is now very distinctly old men.
>>98208527The lotr ones are borderline unreadable and would have unironically looked better without the rules text, like they already have done with a lot of premium card prints.
>>98208544Well, yeah. If you're a balding goony-bearded faggot that unironically says shit like "LETS GOOOOOO" while playing some retard-proof self-piloting novella of a commander, bragging about the price of his SpongeBob meme card, you're lame.
>>98208486>>98208552..no? I keep seeing more younger players each year, ever since Bloomburrow or so and especially after Final Fantasy, way more people (mostly in their early 20s) getting into the game
>>98208552And thank GOD we have fresh and hip IPs like TMNT, Super Heroes, and Star Trek to get children interested!
>>98208464Yeah, kinda would have to put in bracket 4 cards to keep the engine moving. Honestly might look at re-doing my brew.
>>98208577and thank god we're saving the children from this shit
>>98208572Your local scene is the exception then.
>>98208572Bloomburrow, sure, but that was an exception because WotC follows the retard school of "modern audiences cannot relate to nonhuman characters," and they're too stupid to realize that cute critters sell more packs than frumpy black women, so that's a very designated exception that I really don't think they'll repeat. Final Fantasy? Are you being serious? I like that series too, but let's be honest; outside of 7, most people have zero awareness about the series. Square's merchandising has pretty much shifted to Kingdom Hearts, and the last notable release was 15 coming out of development Hell. They keep going back to 7 because they don't know what to do with the IP.
>>98208584that ghost always cracks me up
>>98208492It's a card with no real fair use-case because that design space has been swallowed up by cards like Savage Summoning. Aside from the fact Hulk becomes the best wincon in the game (again) and Atraxa now gives even more power to 5c slop piles, it's a card that will fundamentally cause far more problems than it solves simply because 2 mana to trigger any etb/ltb is an effect that will continuously age more poorly over time.
>>98208584I don't a problem with that guy's design anymore than the rest of Aetherdrift.
>>98208600that's because it's not just aetherdrift, but the whole lore of mtg that's the problem
>>98208605Okay. What does that have to do with WotC picking IPs that only middle-aged millennials or older care about?
>>98208591FF was the best selling set at the time, man. And half the pods I play in someone is playing the Yshtola or Tidus precon
>>98208605Should have quit after Timesprial block when they ran out of ideas.
>>98208608if middle-aged millenials+ actually cared about the mtg lore wotc wouldn't bother with UB in the first place
>>98208611nah i just accepted mtg as the fortnite of cardgames, renton's writing isn't worth ruining one's life over
>>98208612That's such a disingenuous non sequitur, man, and you keep trying to bring it up every time someone points out that most of the IPs they tie-in with are old enough to drink.
>>98208612Fact of the matter is that most UB is aimed at middle aged millennials, as evidenced by the IPs they choose. Kids don't particulary care for Star Trek, The Hobbit or Final Fantasy. Not all millennials were MTG players in the first place, but most of them have expendable income
>>98208617i await your dissertation as to why the jacetice league and co. are worth fighting for
>>98208619>Kids don't particulary care about FFincorrect, FF14 is the main competitor of WoW and isn't just full of japs>and if kids didn't like it why is the FF14 fandom full of young libtards
>>98208610I never said that FF didn't sell good. That would postulate on manchildren not having disposable income. I said that the franchise had mostly left the public consciousness, and I stand by that. I could bet money that most of the people that run an FF card in any of my local stores could not tell you that a FF 16 even released.Wizards can go after the whale market rather than a mass market because some nostalgiabux buyer can buy multiple packs but that same buyer probably isn't going to buy multiple of, say, the same shirt.>Tidus preconFFX was released in 2001.
>>98208643I wasn't talking about public consciousness, I was talking about what people are playing in my scene. At the end of the day, I see a lot of young people playing the Tidus precon, I doubt they have even played the game or maybe any FF but they do play the deck
>>98208643>look a franchise that had mostly left the public consciousness is MOGGING every other set wotc released>now imagine if wotc released a popular game that is aimed at kids and is fueled by gambling
>>98208621Because they're better than a loot drop of Spongebob memes, raceswapped Aragorn, and blurry Avatar screenshots you balding manchild.
>>98208643Does it matter if kids don't know FF when the exact age group that mostly plays commander gre up with it?And the Remakes and MMO still sell well, even if the more modern games are trash
>>98208652>they're better because i said so!kekw this is why wotc abandoned you
I look forward to collecting the entire roster of Marvel vs Capcom 2 as magic cards.
>>98208658>implying they'll ever print Amingo
>>98208647Well, I was talking about it because someone brought it up as an alleged example of some UB bringing younger players into the game.FFX I will say also has a little bit of awareness. Outside of the KH cameos, it was first of the line on PS2.You want a real litmus test, find people playing Terra.>>98208649Well, yeah you idiot, because what are they going to do now? They need to retain those players. WorC abandoning their main story is such a mistake because it gives those players little reason to care about the game outside of the tie-in. A smart company would be asking how to retain those weebs, not go after the Star Trek audience later.
>>98208664>They need to retain those playerssince wotc was able to retain a fucking audience despite having the drek that is the jacetice league then retaining people through UB is not a problem at all you simple minded fool lol
>>98208649>year of our lord 2026>still no precure set in mtg
>>98208655Pic related is how little WotC respects (you), and they're right.
>>98208664I don't have a horse in the uw vs ub race but i would be shocked if the number of people who cared about mtg lore was in the double in the double digits. Magic (like all wizards ip) simply just does not have good writing my friend.
>>98208654The entire discussion is about the increasing age of the average game store audience, so, yes, it matters.
>>98208667>...they hate you!lmao keep crying and slop up your obnoxious in your face in-lore faggotry
>>98208665Aren't you the thread pedophile who spergs about gay bolas fanfiction?
>>98208664I've seen a couple youngers folks play Terra. I don't think these new players exclusively pick up the decks just because they are familiar with the characters, because the Dragonstorm decks were also popular. Probably a lot of the new people are like this:>I heard about this Magic game and I see these precons, I'll get this one because it seems funObviously if you are a TMNT fan you'd pick that one up but if you just want to play Magic and haven't before you might pick up the Terra precon not even knowing what FF is
>>98208673UWfaggots here are just like twittards, all talk no buy, i'm certain they're proxyfags too, absolute waste of time for wotc to pander to
>>98208677>defending gay bolas out of nowhereuh oh poopdickschizo is gonna complain to the jannies and spam images again
>>98208675Honestly, there's not much wrong with that art and it's from a Secret Lair, unlike pic related
>>98208682>he confirms it
>>98208683>gay shit good>sexy women badok fag
>>98208680You're such a retarded samefag
>>98208686>he thinks it's only one guy in the whole of /edhg/ and /mtg/ who knows of his mental retardationgonna cry, furry? you gonna spam cards again?
>>98208691
I fucking hate UB. What the fuck is an artifact now? If a goddamn hotdog cart can give any color of mana why the fuck does it take a whole island to do the same? Gone is the mystical and fantasy element of the game. Hello LOL HOTDOGS AMIRITE? Disgraceful.
>>98208695>t. says "poopdickschizo" every thread
>>98208696thanks for proving heteronomativity is king, fag
>>98208700>he thinks i'm the guy who coined the term in the first placebetter start baking new at page 1 faggot, can't have anyone take away your gay ass OP
>>98208468>>98208517Will we get live-action screenshots for Star Trek?
>>98208701>He admits to being a proud cuckKEK
>>98208705No, you're just an autistic manchild obsessed with it, Toskifag.
>>98208697A single coin can give a whole mana of any color. What mana "is" and what its "limits" are hasn't meant anything for a very, very, VERY long time. Long before UB was a thing. Magic's worldbuilding is not good.
>>98208707>posts dr. whoLMAO the most cucked audience of all
>>98208712To be fair, that treasure can only give a small amount of mana before being unmade.
>>98208711>he thinks i'm toskiposter>and the irony of wanting his gay ass bolas shit every OP but he can't stand a single toski imagine every thread
>>98208713On top of that, that character is a lesbian.I seriously don't understand how that stupid faggot can go "homosex bad" to discredit their original universe, while also defending UB as-if WotC haven't made UB cards of LGBT characters before.
>>98208717>>and the irony of wanting his gay ass bolas shit every OPI'm not that anon.This is also one of your tells, Toskifag.
>>98208706Probably not, though I wouldn't be surprised. We will get screenshot cards of the cartoons though, which will be both based (in the case of The Animated Series cards) and profoundly gay (in the case of Lower Decks troonshit).
>>98208723>this mindbroken by a toski imageopinion discarded
>>98208720why is dr. who not having their christmas special again?
>>98208730>t. had a full-on meltdown and spammed the thread because someone posted a link to a gay Bolas fanfiction
>>98208736I don't know, I don't watch it. I just googled "magic universes beyond gay characters."
>>98208737yeah that's why this thread isn't being spammed right now furrydont bother lying everyone knows your shit from archive
>>98208739>i don't watch itexactly
>>98208742>"poopdickschizo">Immediately accuses someone of being his boogeyman after gaslighting "wow you think everyone is your personal boogeyman huh?">Transit Mage>FFX Inspiring Call>Eternally insecure about Bolas fanfiction>Tard rage against proxies>Limp-wristed toneAnything else I'm missing for your usual faggotry, Toskifag?You're here a lot, but you never talk about the game. Do you even play anymore?
>>98208752while i am the transit mage poster, you of course don't notice my arguments for turn limits on brackets, because naturally you yourself don't discuss the game either beyond TQs and think of mtg primarily as a vector for your scalie furshitanother irony: you don't even have a bolas deck of your own LOL
>thread warriors active and arguing with each other >me looking for the new thread they're supposed to be making
>>98208762>He didn't deny anything I just said.Okay. So now that we confirmed who you are, can I ask what was going through your brain when you typed https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/98137705/#q98141191How did you seriously type that and not realize you were being more of a sperg than that retarded bolasfag by a country mile?Why are you so mindbroken about some retarded faggotry that nobody else cares about? Why are (you) of all people so obsessed with forced memes?Also, how much alcohol did your mother drink while she was pregnant?
>>98208785>>98208785>>98208785NEW
>>98208784all i admitted was that i'm the transit mage poster idiot, that one ain't me>he ignores my arguments on brackets>he doesn't deny he doesn't play the gameconcession accepted, bye
>>98208677Why do you give him attention? Now we have an early OP with fucked up links.
>>98208712I can believe the coin is infused with mana. It has a guild sigil on it and is made of gold. It's one use too. A hotdog cart in New York though providing infinite mana every turn is just silly. I fucking hate the hotdog cart. Fuck you.
>>98208790Nobody was talking about brackets you gay pedo schizo
>>98208666What's stopping you?
Reply to my post in the other thread thanks