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I have taken you're Butte Hold.
Damn, by ilClan it looks like mercs get enough Battle Armor to cover almost every base you'd want Battle Armor at. They are still lacking an LRM BA that's not super rare, thought.
Reading the Dark Age novels and stuff has made me slowly fall in love with the Lyrans/House Steiner. They're quite cool in this era. I don't often like a Great House, but I like Stiener's story rn.
>>98203975Centaur Battle Armor works well as a long range suit-OH WAIT WE STILL DON'T HAVE FUCKING MODELS FOR THAT
>Maces cannot be equipped by anything over 80T.Gay
Someone upload the unabridged audiobook of Wolves on the Border plz.
HONOR THE DRAGON!
>>98203992No. Learn to read, coward.t. The Wolverine of Literacy
Can you disable heatsinks inside the engine or only ones present in crits?
>>98203977>They're quite cool in this era.>Sending one of their 2 functional Warships to help secure Skye from the Stoners and the FalconsCool!>Letting the wolves out of their OZ to park on the Marik border, then further hamper the operation by putting the Duke of Hesperus in charge of the Lyran forces and purposefully hamstringing him and fucking him over.Extra fucking retarded!
>meds=not taken>davions=blamed>fusion engine=hot>education=free>capellan=shotYep, it's Taurian time.
somehow ended up with 5 shadowhawks after asking a friend to 3D print themwhat should the first one be painted as?was thinking of either dougram blue or guncannon red
>>98204023Melissa Steiner is a great character and I love to see her fail lol
>>98203977I love them in honor's gauntlet. They fight like monsters in the last act.
>>98204056Scopedog green!
>>98204061But we lose the only likeable character from the Steiner Early DA, Jasek, just for them to smear his ashes and have Bryan's new characters take over. What kind of blood ritual is needed for Bryan to die a sudden inexplicable death and have Jason Schmetzer take over, anyway?
>>98204075>What kind of blood ritual is needed for Bryan to die a sudden inexplicable deathArm his victimized offspring
>>98204063but scopedogs dont have a shoulder cannona battleteched scopedog would be kinda cool though
>>98204075>But we lose the only likeable character from the Steiner Early DAOk buddy.
>>98204211>I say this without naming any othersI accept your concession.
>>98203966It is OP is retarded edition.Previous thread was >>98189090Now you have been paid a visit by the Dragon of disappointment!
>>98204083>laughs in ATM-09-DD
>>98204317color me surprisedalthough VOTOM green doesnt stand out so much compared to glorious primary color schemeI might paint the second one green with a red windscreen
>>98203999He's a Drac fan, you can't expect him to know how to read.
>>98204056Make them the power rangers.
>>98204388>FORM THE MEGAHAWK
If you think about it, failure to win yourself a Bloodname or admission into the clan genetic repository, is kind of like failing to get married or reproduce. The post Great Refusal wars, was essentially the Clanner equivalent of incel rage
>>98204379>He's a Drac fan, you can't expect him to know how to read.What is this Davion Slander?!>>98204388>Make them the power rangers.This, can never go wrong with five Shadowhawks with Attitude!
>>98204487>I got Davions on my mind! I think about them all the damn time!
>>98203966>The technicians watching this
Who let the Wolverine pilots touch the Griffin?
>>98204922Someday you're going to kill yourself.
>>98204922of course that gigantic faggot would make a faggy gay 's0ijack' version of griffin to shit on it. just shows wolverine fags are all gay paedo shitcunts.
>>98204939The only thing faggots are a fan of is obnoxiously shoving their rainbow degradation into everything straight men enjoy.
>>98204007You can turn off all heat sinks in your mech if you want.
>>98204922So it is official. Fucking AI can recognise and draw a better griffin than a supposed 'artist' can.AI is smarter than this Mexican kid rapist.
>>98204939>>98204990This is one of his takes on the Wolverine by the way. Think it says it all?
>>98205022I should call her
>>98203977>Lyran hater comes to act, respect and then, eventually, love Lyran supremacyMany such cases.
What kind of idiot came up with 'smaller the weapon more the ammo' for ACs and Missiles? It made already bad weapons even worse
>>98205219Jordan Weisman
>>98205219For missiles, they're literally the same exact missiles but you fire less of them at a time. Of course you'd get more shots. A ton is a ton, and for LRMs, a ton is 120 individual missiles. Doesn't matter if you launch 5, 10, 15, or 20 at a time. If there was such a thing as an LRM 1, it would get 120 shots per ton. If there was an LRM-120, it would get one shot per ton.
>>98205248SRM6 being 15 not 16 shots per ton will forever live rent free in my head.
>>98205022If you want a fuckable mech go for the spider. Look at those hips and thighs.
I went on the internet and I found this!
>>98205306
>>98205306>>98205308Congratulations on reposting AI slop.
>>98205321You're welcome.
>>98205202>herI don't think its meant to be a "her" considering the state of your average Wolverine pilot.>>98205277I really like the Spider but I am more of an Ost person myself.
While working on the Marik submachine gun, it dawned to me that all small arms need cold weather/spacesuit/armored BA gloves-capable trigger guards.It was easy enough to refit the other Marik designs with SIG 550 guards, which also worked for the Steiner assault rifle. Really, the need for these should've dawned to me while working on the Steiner stuff already.As for the rest... the Liaos will get a D-guard for their assault rifle. It's compact enough to be taken into boarding actions and they're centralized enough to standardize here.The Davions will get a take on WW2 German Winter Trigger Units and the Dragon allegedly under-invests in infantry.
>>98205528
>>98205308>1984 Battledroids Battleaxe artWhere did you find this?
>>98205332>Wolverine pilotIs this a new meme I'm not familiar with?
>>98205528The funny part is that the Dragon actually has pretty good infantry gear with considerations for ergonomics and injury prevention, they just don't issue very much of it and don't care even a little bit whether the guys wearing it get shot or not.
>>98205708
>>98205579Just Griffinfags trying to insist on relevancy. Comes from deep-seated psyche damage from their fat ride once being mistaken for a Heavy, kind of like that slag at the prom everyone gaslit into believing she was all that but she's really just the school slampig fond of cake.
>>98205750Give her a break, she slimmed down really well once she got a real job. Even if that job is gravure.
>>98205708The House Book suggests they get a hat and an overall. Helmets and body armour are not standard issue, and neither is any type of camo gear.
>>98205561Early Battletech infantry look like early Star Wars rebel troopers. Weird how that is, huh?
>>98205764But the overalls have integrated knee and elbow padding, and heat regulating materials. They could have very easily given them soviet style potato sack jumpsuits and called it a day.
>>98205764Die for Darkseid
>>98205769Padded armor is a sci-fi classic that went out of style by the early 90s. My favorite version was always Paranoia's Vulture Squad.Also, Kurtian infantry is one of the few things that have never changed artwise. They still look exactly the same.
>>98204990Why the fuck does Gemini know what a griffin is?
>>98205789>Paranoia's Vulture Squad.They got some real good miniatures too.
>>98205818Griffinfags feeding it info to feel validated in the world
>>98205818It knows better.
>>98205769I mean yeah, pop culture from the mid-late 20th century resembles other pop culture from the mid-late 20th century. Star Wars drew on a lot of sources for inspiration.>>98205777>They could have very easily given them soviet style potato sack jumpsuits and called it a day.That's what you get as a prisoner conscript in the Capellan Confederation, apparently.
>>98205818Judging from that image, all the miniature photos were properly labeled.
>>98205839>>98205777It ain't over until they issue honorabuur ponchos and tell you to pick a gun up somewhere along the way.
Who was in the wrong here?
>>98205849The Bears have the Leviathan, so they can never be wrong, politically speaking.
>>98205849The Draconis Combine is always in the wrong, unless fighting against Hanse Davion specifically, because his being always in the wrong supersedes their being always in the wrong.>>98205818It's on the cover of multiple boxes and has a lot of additional art. Plus, its design is incredibly simple, and you can get a few details wrong without deviating from something that looks like a Griffin.I'd wager it's the most AI-able mech in existence.
>>98205849The bears for being godless dishonorable clanners
>>98205786It's hilarious to know that I'm the same height as combine battle armour.
>>98205786Where is the Davion and Taurian height?
>>98206028You're to the average Davion what the Elemental BA is to the Kurita soldier then.
>>98203980But that's Stoner only, not Merc
>>98203980>OH WAIT WE STILL DON'T HAVE FUCKING MODELS FOR THATI recall Ironwinds got them.
>>98205750cute. the seething wolverine fags are mad they got caught being giant gay faggots.
I'm going to make one of these to go with the Narukami I made.
When making a lance do you tend to keep to a specific theme? All of the same weight class/role? All using similar sorts of weapons? Similar appearance in mechs?I generally like to make my lances look aesthetically cohesive so to speak. If I'm taking quads they're all quads, if I'm taking chicken walkers they're all chicken walkers, if I'm taking humanoid mechs they're all humanoid.
>>98206158Neg :(
>>98206452Usually same speed profile.
>>98206452Usually faction is more important to me than aesthetic. My process is generally:1a: Decide what kind of Lance I need.1b: Pick one or two mechs I like and choose a Lance that they fit in.2: Fill in the Lance with appropriate mechs for the role in the faction.3:Tweak variants and explore alternates to better achieve the mission or adjust for BV.4:There is no step 4, we're ready to go.
Make Simian and Centaur Battle Armor models you fucking JEWS! I want my fluffy RotS infantry! I don't just want to constantly bring Angerona in order to be fluffy and loreful!
>>98206452Depends on whether it's a stand-alone lance or part of a company. If it's alone, then I try to fill the basic roles of a flanker/scout, front line brawler, and fire support. Then the last one might be any of those, kinda depends on where the weakest link is. If the lance is part of a company, then it becomes more specialized with all fast mechs or all front liners or mostly fire support with a bodyguard to make it more dangerous to attack.
Can /yourdudes/ beat a mobile suit?
>>98206693Can a mobile suit conquer Butte Hold?
Battletech doesn't have a faction as cool as Neo-Zeon. Axis Zeon and the Sleeves are fucking based. Your Clans are cringeshit >:)
>>98206730Single handed? No. Probably not. A few of them? Probably yeah.
>>98206776Based Based Based
>>98206693We already had that conversation a thread or three ago. OYW MS are underarmed, underarmored, and oversized compared to BattleMechs, but quickly reach retarded speeds that don't work within the context of the tabletop. ZZ era tech might be a fair fight, but they would still be frail compared to a comparable mass in 'Mechs.>>98206776Both Neo Zeons are entirely reliant on the Federation being lazy and complacent, the Sleeves are just a bunch of losers with uggo leftover MS. Zeon in general sucks ass at anything they claim to be fighting for.
>>98206693Depends on the mobile suit
>>98206776
>>98206809This is 100% just an assmad Battletech simp who isn't willing to admit that mobile suits are, demonstrably, faster, stronger, better equipped and better piloted lol
>>98206809>We already had that conversation a thread or three ago. OYW MS are underarmed, underarmored, and oversized compared to BattleMechs, but quickly reach retarded speeds that don't work within the context of the tabletop. ZZ era tech might be a fair fight, but they would still be frail compared to a comparable mass in 'Mechs.*SNIFFFFFFFFFFF*Mmmm that's some well baked cope!
What's with all the non-battletech posters? Are they jealous that we have an actual /traditional game/ that people play and they don't?
>>98206824Two Big Stompy Robot properties with similar themes of politics, byzantine plots and the horrors of war. There's going to be crossover/comparisons and has been since day 1 basically.
>>98206824>What's with all the non-battletech posters?>Implying I don't play Battletech>Implying Gundam doesn't have /tg/ games
>>98206832Sure, but why come into a thread about one of them just to insult it?>>98206837>>Implying Gundam doesn't have /tg/ gamesIt sure doesn't have weekly meetups at multiple stores within short driving distance to me. So yeah, assblasted.
>>98206856>It sure doesn't have weekly meetups at multiple stores within short driving distance to me.Already moving the goalposts? Anon, you got blown the fuck out of the water.
>>98206776I've grown to like the Scorpion Empire.>Closest thing to an egalitarian clan, no issue giving bloodnames to former enemies who joined them or freebirths who managed to test into warrior caste>Give non-warriors a vote on national matters and each caste has its own internal councilFeels a bit like the early Roman Republic with the social classes, mandatory military service with different expectations based on rank, and the tribune of the plebs and similar quota style representation of the lower classes.
>>98206837I can't wait to get Gundam Assemble in a few months. Gonna paint my Zakus up all nice and pretty :)
>>98206856Who insulted what and where?
>>98206866I haven't been able to find a starter in my obscure corner of europe yet but I remain hopeful
>>98206863Learn to read, tourist. >>98206824>an actual /traditional game/ that people play>>98206866That honestly sounds exciting. You should make a thread about it.
>>98206866Wholesome
>>98206824We get a lot of them trying to stir trouble; it's like the tank fags. Since other genuine posters share the interest and will talk about the topic it makes it easy to start fights over it.If someone asks something really stupid and off topic; like powerscaling GMs and ACs and shit like that against Battlemechs, just ignore them. They're not actually interested in a serious discussion of the topic, they just know it will start a fight.
>>98206623Simian's listed as being for mercs, but when the hell was that? ilClan RATs don't list them anywhere for mercs.
>>98206883I can read, you immediately went from "It doesn't have /tg/ games!!" to "Yeah well it might have /tg/ games but they aren't played near me!!"Cope, eat a dick, last (You) btfo
>>98206817>>98206819NTA, but don't Zaku IIs unironically use RHA still?
>>98206879My mate wasn't sure he wanted to play it but once they confirmed the Unicorn Gundam, Magella Attack Tanks and the Gouf are getting models he was in lol I want more GMs, since GMs are my favourite Big Stompy Robots ever but right now I'm happy to have the RX-78, Guntank, Guncannon and so on. I'm a Feddie to the core, you see.
this thread is too gundam for me im moving to the orgy faction
>>98206909>I'm a Feddie to the core,You are actually fucking filth.
>>98206817A Zaku II is going to be a pretty fast Heavy, but can be shredded by a good burst from another Zaku's 120mm or Bazooka. Using the Marauder's 120mm as a reference point would put the Zaku MG as an AC/5, but we'll call it a RAC/5 for the sake of not ending the comparison there. We'll also say the Bazookas are AC/10s, just because there isn't a missile weapon that really works and it'll let us say Clay Bazookas are LBX/10s. These are good weapons, sure, but the Zaku's only other armament are its Heat Hawk, easy to mark down as a Hatchet, Crackers, who even remembers these things exist, and the leg missiles that never come up outside of GBO2. These are decent weapons to put on a BattleMech, but they'll still need a few rounds to break through the armor. Beam weapons might seem like the game changer, but they're easy enough to compare to a PPC and we'll say it's a Clan ERPPC just to kick it past the Bazooka. Again, decent gun, but something anything in Battletech is going to need to deal with. Gundarium isn't going to kick their durability up that much since it still gets punched through by beams, so we'll call it on par with Ferro-Lamellor to be generous. This is all on platforms with comparable weight to heavy Mediums to light Assaults, which can eat a cERPPC or two as long as they're not the Shadow Hawk.Pilots is a complicated subject, but carving out the massive outliers that are the named characters because come the fuck on you're not desperate enough to rely on the IPs' respective narrative structures for power scaling, we'll call them comparable. Speed is where things lean towards the MS because of how retarded the artbooks and MG manuals get. The Zaku II can reasonably hit the speeds of a 5/8/x, which is pretty good for how much mass it has. The Gundam runs circles around it and things only get faster from there. If you said the Gundam was a 8/12/8 I'd say you're pushing the jump but accept it. But speed's all it's got.
>>98206920Layer on dat cope, buddy.
>>98206924I'm trying man but I can't keep up. You gotta slow down.
>>98206894>that people playIt's in the first message, dipshit. You're just repeatedly demonstrating your illiteracy. >>98206911I'm currently painting a Capellan/Canopian joint special forces company. Lots of green and gold. Not totally happy with the current scheme, so I'm still workshopping.
>>98206928holy cope give it up
>>98206887I guess that's good advice. I need to practice it more.So back to the topic, here's a Hammerhead based on the football club I support.
>>98206924NTA, but the original writers for Gundam had a worse understanding of how armor works than the original writers for Battletech. The armor protection it has is hypothetically only better than WW2 tanks due to it being homogeneous, but also doesn't actually have enough mass for it to actually have an impressive amount of protection. The size of the mobile suit is likely doing a bulk of the work of protecting the mech since a 20 meter tall target has a lot of places to hit, but not all of those places are important.
>>98206865It annoys me TO NO END that we got so much setting up the Escorpión Imperio and the Scorpion Empire that followed, the Wars of Reaving, an Operational Turning Point, some Touring the Stars, fucking Short Stories, Spotlights and so on, and then they're just...forgotten. We NEED some new lore for these fuckers in the Ilclan-era. There's too much awesome work put into them just for the SE to fade into the background.
>>98206951Most clean hits in Gundam are either a limb gone or a reactor going critical. They're just really flimsy compared to the weapons they use because they're more analogous to WWII fighters and BattleMechs function more like tanks.
>>98206956I'd like to at least know for sure how they feel about the ilClan. Feels like an important bit of world-building.
Careful anons, dangerous levels of COPE in this thread. Masks advised.
>>98206956The Scorpion Empire is too kino for CGL to focus on. A sad truth.
>>98206890Many RAF units turned merc when the Republic fell, they had Simian BA and therefore there's now mercs using it. Pretty simple, anon.
>>98206776There's Neo-Blakist groups like the Blessed Order, or Mot's Manei Domini but they're not the same sort of threat as Neo-Zeon and don't get as much attention. They easily could be though but the current writers don't want to give us anymore WoB lore after Ghosts of Obeedah so it'll probably be a few years until we get an in-depth look at a Neo-Zeon-esque faction again sadly :(
Does any trove spot have the Hot Spots: Draconis Reach pdf?
>>98207053>Hot Spots: Draconis Reachhttps://files.catbox.moe/80374o.pdf
>>98206899It's described as "Super-Hard Steel Alloy", which is the standard for the OYW zeon suits. They're 75 tons with a 88 kmh ground speed, so a fast heavy with jump jets. Armament is variable because of how they use weapons, the 120mm machine gun could be interpreted as an AC/20 or as an AC/10 but I would err on the side of the 20 because it has a pretty high fire rate, a heat hawk would require new rules because heat weapons would more effective than a battletech hatchet, the other common weapon is the 280mm bazooka which is probably something like a thunderbolt 20.
>>98207079>could be interpreted as an AC/20 or as an AC/10It's not even firing proper AP ammo, it's just big slugs. That's a massive overestimation of how good Mobile Suits in Gundam, even if you were trying to be generous to them. And if you don't even know that the Heat Hawk would be a mech vibroblade, you don't even know what you're talking about for Battletech. You're just looking at fan wikipedias that don't have all of the details and saying "nuh uh, this one is totally better" without actually getting into the physical details. You're not nearly autistic enough for this, and I bet you don't even buy gunpla.
>>98205849The Dracs for once again failing recognize which factions do and do not have plot armour. Say what you like about Sun-Tzu, but he had an uncanny knack for spotting factions that FASA and FanPro couldn't give a fuck about.Sometimes the Dracs get lucky and accidentally pick on a faction that nobody upstairs really gives a shit about. Like, for example, themselves. Or the Nova Cats. But by and large, with unfailing accuracy the Dracs will pick fights with people who are obviously the main characters and then act surprised when they lose because of some ridiculous deus ex machina bullshit. And when they get someone with plot armour themselves? They unfailingly treat him like shit, often to the point of suicide or defection. The amount of fucking bullshit Teddy had to put up with from his dad. Not even Max Liao treated his daughters that badly, and one of them was straight up insane and the other seceded.
>>98207100>It's not even firing proper AP ammo, it's just big slugs.Both zakus and battlemechs are shooting world war 2 style anti-tank shells as standard. Standard autocannon ammo is APHE and zaku machine gun ammo is APC, they're both contemporary with each other.
>>98206404progress
>>98207225Unfortunately, Battletech had a weird spat where it introduced Rifles to the setting. The Light Rifle being an a direct stand in for the Abrams's 120mm gun, which does 0 damage to standard armor. It doesn't matter how many times that Cold War era gun hits a Battlemech's armor, it'll still do 0 damage. Which does sound a lot like in the first episode of Gundam where a Zaku mag dumps into a Gundam and it doesn't do anything.The Zaku Kai does go from having the basic hardened steel armor of the Zaku II into having proper composite armor, so it's not like they don't advance pretty quickly into improved protection.
>>98207240The Abrams 120mm should not be modeled as a Light Rifle. It is almost certainly is defined as a Medium Rifle. The 8.8 cm KwK 36 on the Tiger I is modeled as a Medium Rifle in XTRO 1945. While APDSFS rounds would not fare well against Battletech Armor, the equivalent modern HEAT shell would operate similarly to AC rounds and thus match the description of BT Rifles.We have had this argument before many times and have become exceedingly efficient at it.
>>98207250That is true, but the original implementation was intended as a Light Rifle. Even though it doesn't have enough ammo. And has the wrong tonnage. And the wrong range characteristics. They even statted an Abrams tank. With wrong protection characteristics.
Gundam faggots want to pollute the /btg with something other than Battletech, well fine then. Then we're going to talk about some mechs that are better than all shitty gundams. We're going to talk about ZOIDS!The Liger Panzer alone would take down an entire battalion of gaydums. It understand the glory of firing a shit ton of missiles all at once, like its Macross/Robotech forefathers. Get fucked Gundam fags. Zoids are better.
>>98207277The only off topic subject that it's not ok to talk about is Leviathans. Literally anything else is fine and I don't care if we derail 100 threads with talk of anything else.
>>98207277Clan mechs should look like zoids.
>>98207287Clan Mechs shouldn't exist
It's here
>>98207313you can't shoot them if they don't exist
>>98207240The defining feature of autocannons is the rapid fire nature of them. Or as an alternative for 20s specifically, being absurdly powerful single shots. If you made it so a Light Rifle fired in bursts, it would get the profile of an AC/2 or /5. The entirety of the Rifle class is extra abstracted, especially especially when it's used as a stand-in for pre-spaceflight weapons and extra especially when it's used to equivocate WW2 weapons. Imagine a game about WW2 having a half-assed statline for pinfire rifles because some random incident in rural France involved one, then the game saying "eh, if you want to represent matchlocks, just use the antique rifle rules"
>>98207315thanks anon downloaded
>>98207287Reminder that 1 MS is approximately 10/KPH. How do you feel about a 145 ton quad mech with a movement profile of 18/27 that's more heavily armored than an Atlas and has greater firepower than a Dire Wolf? Oh, and that's considered slow.
>>98207277Thats literally just a sarath with clan guns in the turret. Now if only there was a 75 t sarath or equivalent 'sweet spot' quadrant heavy with turret.
>>98206452Role and speed profile.
>>98206956>they're just...forgotten.Never forget, never surrender
I don't have any vinegar and I really want to make pickles :c
>>98207330Cope. Canon is canon and you can't do anything about it.
>>98207424Noticing an increase in using visible weapon discharges in your work.
>>98207428Well if we take XTRO 1945 stats as canon (which it explicitly says to not do) then the WW2 weapons use the WW2 vs WW2 table with completely different damages and ranges and special rules, and then when they go up against anything more advanced, suddenly compress down to be equal to BA recoilless rifles and vehicular light and medium rifles.
>>98207424Got salt, water, and garlic? You can lacto-ferment without vinegar.
>>98207424Well, I don't have any tequila and I really want to make margaritas.
>>98207500Mezcal, or white rum.
>>98207507All I have is peach vodka and bourbon. Also:>MezcalWhen the hell did this become something other than a bottom of the shelf thing you got on a trip to Neuvo Laredo? It feels like the same reason shank steak is now more expensive than sirloin.
>>98207330The Light Rifle doesn't even do fractional damage, it just gets reduced to nothing. Even infantry rifles get fractional damage.
>>98207534>Even infantry rifles get fractional damage.Why didn't we get infantry round down in the new rules? It's the biggest mistake of the OG Total Warfare.
>>98207532It's only a thing as a tequila substitute, no need to read too much into it.
>>98205849The Bears for existing, mary sue ass faction
>>98207543I'm more complaining about the ridiculous increase in price. I don't mind the smokey flavor. Back in the day, you couldn't even find it in most US stores.
>>98207532>peach vodka and bourbonMake a Kentucky Peach out of that
>>98207550I second this motion. May they be Blaked into oblivion.
>>98207557Haven't heard of that. I usually use the peach with an orange soda. I'll give it a go. Thanks, Anon.
>>98207486oh? I made tabouli instead. c:maybe I'll try that some time. >>98207468the jade hawk and jade phoenix are 2/3 (4?) of the centerpiece mechs for the trinary I'm working on, so I approached them last and am putting a bit of extra love into them
>>98207538IRL infantry vets badgered and physically threatened the devs until they made infantry better.
>>98207593Squishies are faggots, lowest common denominator morons all.
>>98207602>>98207593The lesson we should be learning here is that the devs are vulnerable to showing up in person and forcing your opinions on them. Davionman with the shotgun had the right idea.
what you're saying is that I can just show up with a gun and make them bring back steel vipers
>>98207621Yes. Please do.
>>98207621steel vipers sucked, they are not coming back, however I am willing to support you if in exchange we get rid of capellans as a faction
>>98207631>we get rid of capellans as a factionColeman owns CGL. That guy would eat a bullet before he axed his favorite boys. The Ghost Bears though...
>>98207631Here is a hint, surat: we never went away.
>>98207633>The Ghost Bears though..no. I like the ghost bears, they can stay, a few tweaks is all I'll allow to give them a better clanner and rasalhague mix, I want my damn space vikings. if we can't get rid of capellans then can we at least get rid of the marian hegemony or completely erase jade falcon?
>>98207647>I like the ghost bearsUm yikes. Like that's actually a huge red flag, no cap.
>>98207647How about we blood house virus the Ghost Bears, leaving only the weakened Hogs behind who are then folded into their rightful place as a province of the Dragon?
>>98207641>suratyou have offended me, I, Nikolai Malthus, no relation to the other nicolai malthus, challenge you to a trial of grievance, I seek to take you as bondsman if I win this game of dice roll[using the /tg/ dice roll feature, whoever gets highest number wins], what forces do you have to stand against me and what do you want if you win?
>>98207680>Bears get assraped by the Combine>Combine goes full genocide, sterilizing everyone whose meaningfully part of the clan like they did to the Nova Cat civvies>Bears forced to unconditionally join Ilclan>Ilclan and Bears manage to stem the tide of the Combine with most Bear territory lost and most of the Bear touman annihilated
So I'm new to painting miniatures. I'm thinking that, in order to keep things flexible in the game itself, I'll paint all mydudes in camo so they can remain unit-agnostic. This from thinking that unit-specific camos were more for parades than actual combat. Is this sensible or boring?
>>98207697Sensible, only grandstanding units never camo up.
>>98207697I would say two things. First, parade schemes are bright and cool. Second, there are units who have camo as their parade scheme. The Regulan Hussars are famous for that. So, you could make an official unit that could proxy for limitless units rather than just an agnostic unit.
>>98207696>like they did to the Nova Cat civviesname a more iconic duo than Kuritans and murdering civilians that can't fight back, honorable my ass.
>>98207713Lyrans and claiming worlds not their own.
>>98207718Smug Jerble[smoke jaguar] and getting their ass handed to them
>>98207710Just looked them up. Holy shit I recognized this immediately, it's the decal used in the Warhammer from the 2nd Ed AGOAC box. I love it.Thanks anon, I wouldn't have found out about them if it wasn't for you.
>>98207713Amaris and civilians that can't fight back. That's why he was a Star Lord and they're not.
>>98207724Davions and body doubles.
>>98207728that'd be Mariks and body doubles
>>98207735It's Mariks and civil strife.
>>98207633>That guy would eat a bullet before he axed his favorite boys.Proposition accepted. Get out there to a con and feed it to him
>>98207697>Is this sensible or boring?Yes.
>>98207792Honestly thinking I might buy more minis and paint them shiny unit-specific colors later, but I want to have my bases covered firstGonna be weird if my lance is supposed to be Kuritan and I have a deep blue scheme after all
What's the general attitude towards fanon and fan projects nowadays? I know the wiki jettisoned any and all fanon stuff back in 2011, but is there still an active community of fans sharing original works?
>>98207713>Support their enemies>NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T HURT US WE'RE INNOCENT!!!Should have rebelled against their oppressors.
>>98207801>I have a deep blue schemeNIghtstalkers
>>98207802Certainly not here. We've driven off everyone who's even tried to make something here. Not even NEA posts anymore, and the last 2 things he tried to do got shitposted to death. The last person to try anything here was an anon running Megamek games, and he got shit in so hard he quit that too.If you want OC, you have to go to Reddit, and that juice isn't worth the squeeze unless you want tranny coded, well, everything.
>>98207808Keep learning new things, cool>The Night Stalkers' default colors are nearly identical to the title robot of Fang of the Sun Dougram, the Unseen version of the original Shadow Hawknice
>>98207802We used to do that here, one upon a time.
>>98207801I understand trying to be efficient, I personally just like having multiple forces and painting different schemes. I get bored painting the same scheme for too long, so I rotate through my factions. This means I have bought the staple mechs several times over, but such is life.This Atlas is the latest in my primary merc scheme.
>>98207829Do you keep buying the Catalyst boxes? Or do you hunt for specific mechs elsewhere?
>>98207819Shame. I had a project I've been working on sporadically for years now and was considering sharing it but if there isn't really a spot for it IDK what to do.
>>98207839You keep it to yourself where nobody will ever see it, the same as the rest of us. This place isn't for creativity or feedback. It's about being mad: at Battletech, at CGL, at other factions, and other players. That's what we are. We're all mad here And if you aren't mad, then you shouldn't be here.
>>98207837I bought multiple boxes early on, but now I mostly buy singles from frogrodeo or pip's printz on ebay.
>>98207852sick, thanks for the recs anon
>>98207839You can still get some fun by sharing it. You just have to ignore the trolls. The second part can be hard when they're so fierce and without lives.There are still remnants of the old greatness left here, though. There are still men who would call you "friend".
>>98207870Fuck off you weepy faggot
>>98207725NTA, but Regulans are great. Basically from Jihad onward they're really aggressive and have a surprising amount or homegrown designs. And they're one of the only inner sphere states that chooses to continue to use retrotech since they believe even an old, bad mech is better than a vehicle if you have the option. They're the ones keeping Mackies in production.
>>98207930Also Ostwars, Hectors, and Sarissas.
They never did reveal where Tiger Valley was hidden, did they?
>>98207113>teddy kuritaThat dude SAVED the Combine on so many levels it's not funny, his reforms and purges of the fucktarded "muh ronouablu bullshiduuu" and "stupid peaseantuuu you deserve to sufferuuuu" aspects of the Combine, and fathering Omiko "my Japanese pussy is so good it obliterates centuries of racism" Kurita, and the love child between her and Victor Steiner-Davion personally killed hundreds of Bad Dragon Society faggots by simply admitting that his dad was THE Davion, which is probably one of the most based things ever done in universe.
>>98207930That sounds perfect actually because I've only played 3025-3028 era so far. Knowing that all the Retrotech stuff painted Regulan will still make sense in later eras is the cherry on top. They only keep getting better and better
>>98207971Yeah, they aren't picky or even really organized enough to be picky. Their military organization is described as unwieldy and in desperate need of reforms, on top of preferring mechs in all cases. They'll use anything they can get their hands on without any regard for how much of a pain in the ass it might be to keep it running later.
I know it goes against the premise of the setting and the usual human thing of constant infighting but kerensky leaving to the outer periphery with the clans was so they would not repeat the folly of the star league and have their own utopia elsewhere. And they generally did for a time until they grew too complacent. Kerensky never wanted to go back to Terra and just preserve the technological progress gained from the star league and move forward from there.The crusader/warden were misguided movements created after his death. In the relative peace out where the great houses could not interfere by a new generation who never knew any real hardship. Just endless cannibalism trying to refine more gattle hardened mechwarriors and ever more dangerous and advanced mech designs.
>>98207240>>98207256>light rifle Yeah no, considering that the Maurader's GM Whirlwind AC5 is firing 3 120mm rounds every 10 seconds, and if each of those rounds does NO damage then the lower caliber AC's in setting make even less sense. In addition a Medium Rifle with the name of "Terran Alliance L7" which the L7 is the 105mm NATO tank gun which is still in service as a secondary tank gun. If anything a Light Rifle is anything 75 to 90mm single shot.
>>98208002Bore size isn't the only indicator of how an autocannon works, it's also the kind of projectiles it uses based on the technology level it is. After all, a black powder cannon firing a 200mm cannonball isn't the same projectile as an AC/10.
>>98207986Kerensky Sr. didn't develop any of the clan shit, that was all his autistic son who wanted everyone to worship him like a god. If Kerensky's ideals had been followed we'd probably have an inner sphere fighting their sixth succession war and an outer sphere that's continued colonizing and expanding well into the outer periphery.
I'm looking for a BNC-3E mini (must actually show both fists, don't want "the good one") that already has a base. I found this on Ebay which lists a "Ral Partha" Banshee with code 969 . I looked it up and I can't find any Ral Partha minis that went that high. It matches a code used by Iron Wind metals but the pose is different. What gives? Is it a fake or what's going on?https://www.ebay.com/itm/157974623344
>>98207476>recoiless rifles are somehow different Anon the fucking Carl Gustav was designed in 1945.
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>>98208058>off topic shit
>>98208025Second sculpt, from the IWM Beginner Box series from the early 2000's. This exists for almost all of the non-unseen 3025 mechs.
>>98208058Looks like it's coming to inject you with its tactical assault syringes. One is loaded with brainworms, the other is loaded with estrogen.
>>98208062You mean most non-unseen mechs from the early 00's beginner box had two sculpts? So like the pictures only show sculpt A and that's why this one doesn't match the pose?
>>98207965Teddy K best Kanrei, dude is a legend
>>98208116
>>98208014Yes, but when Autocannons as a whole still use WW2 technology and the range brackets of Autocannons/Rifles are very similar you can make educated guesses on shit.
>>98208161Rifles are strictly defined as using a pre-spaceflight technology level whereas Autocannons are Star League era. The technology may appear similar, but there are apprently differences that allow Autocannons to hit harder than Rifles of the same caliber per shot.
>>98208040No anon, I mean the weakest WW2 tank guns count as infantry scale recoilless rifles if used against anything from outside of XTRO 1945. There is an entire weapon chart for many of the common WW2 tank gun calibers, all with different ranges and damages and to-hit bonuses and other special rules, and every single one becomes a BARR, LR, or MR when put up against anything used by the Terran Alliance or later factions.
>>98206819also, note the OYW specific datebecause once funnels, mega-particle cannons, and newtype BS is involved, then theres no contest
Tomorrow's game. Composition rule is one Royal + 3 introtech mechs. I'm gonna honor the dragon.
>>98207424Try bleach.
>>98208251People also forget that the main comparison is basically Battletech's military hardware spanning centuries VS one single year of Gundam's weapons. After which, Gundam pretty much sweeps easily due to space magic and absurdly powerful wonder weapons.
>>98208251Once the Puru is mass-produce we'll put an end to the Inner Sphere in no time!
>>98207839Go ahead and share with the class, anon.
>>98208262just for fun, a hypothetical design for a if FASA bought the rights to gunpla in the 80salthough with a pair of AC10s on its shoulders, it would need to be a heavy mech to be anything other than an engine strapped to a pair of cannons
>>98208304Guncannon 2 had beam weapon shoulders, that might be a simpler build
>>98208020>If Kerensky's ideals had been followed we'd probably have an inner sphere fighting their sixth succession war and an outer sphere that's continued colonizing and expanding well into the outer periphery.If the clans never show up, I think the IS would’ve been fated to a confrontation between FedCom and Comstar.If Comstar wins and separates FedCom then the Succession Wars continue. If FedCom wins then Succession Wars still continue for a time but they’ll grow increasingly one-sided in favor of the Steiner-Davions, possibly leading to a FedCom Star League with a Kuritan Rump state as the only remaining holdout.
>>98208316ComStar would use its patsies FWL and DC to wishbone the Lyrans, while an unmolested, undistracted Com Guards and the CapCom plow Davion bussy into submission. The FC doesn't win that scenario, run the numbers.
>>98208327>run the numbersIn Battletech? Let's start with Clan logistics if we're doing that.
>>98208304Here's my pitch for it as a 3025 design. The Beam Rifle is thinner than what the Dougram designs have, so I didn't like the idea of just calling it a PPC for the sake of source accuracy when that's not something particularly common for the introtech roster.
>>98208304What do you mean, that's just a fancy looking Hunchback IIC with a Jettison Capable CERPPC and machineguns in the head. Looks like it might even have a Torso Cockpit installed, but that's just a guess. Those cannons are looking a little small, so they might have been downgraded to UAC/10s.
>>98208338If the Clans hadn't fought each other as much as they did the IS, and attacked as a united front wholesale with all their might, there wouldn't have been time for a Tukayyid.
>>98208341I don't think the original Guncannon kit came with the parts for the Spray Missiles, but it's an easy enough design to make into a variant for the TR.
>>98208304I feel like Guncannon would actually be best represented with the barely-used artillery cannons. A pair of Thumper Cannons might not be the most destructive things out there, but they can still put in work and absolutely shit on certain unit types. Especially if thermobarics are on the table.
>>98208341the blocky design of the guncannon makes me thing of something the federated suns might use (plus the red color scheme and the ability to call them feddies)but slapping a pair of large lasers on it makes it look more kuritan
>>98208354>If the Clans hadn't fought each other as much as they did the ISThen they wouldn't be the Clans. Their retardation is central to who they are.
>>98208362long range artillery support would up the guntanks ally>pair of thumper cannons on shoulders>pair of MRMs on its hands>jumpjets under its tracks>dual-cockpit: a second cockpit in the torso, you need to destroy both cockpits to count as killing the pilot>tracked: weaker in close combat, better at long range, highermovement cost over rough terrain
>>98208316I dunno, if Victor got married to Omi...
>>98207950What the hell is Tiger Valley?
Was the Com Guard and the ROM related by any mean? Like, Freddy made the Com Guard out of ROM kill team or something?
>>98208304I posted these designs here years ago, but since we're on another Gundam kick...>Fusilier FSL-S5HBuilt as a cheap trooper mech to be sold in bulk, the Fusilier was made with partially detaching mountings to allow for end user customization. The stock model is configured around skirmishing with an ER PPC, a medium pulse laser, and two streak SRM 2’s mounted in the legs, with four jump jets for added mobility.
>>98208405>Tiger Shark TSH S2H PrimeDesigned as a “clan buster” during the rise of the Wolf Empire, the Tiger Shark was an omnimech built to go toe to toe with the latest clan heavy units. The Tiger Shark Prime has a shoulder mounted ER PPC, supported by a Thunderbolt 20 with 5 tons of reloads. For close ranges, the Prime has three Clan tech medium pulse lasers, as well as a clan streak SRM 6. The only notable vulnerability of the Prime was its XL Engine, which could easily be subjected to damage. Thankfully, 14 and a half tons keep it well protected.
>>98208411>Sarissa S2HNamed after the weapon of choice of the Macedonian soldiers which this mech resembles, the Sarissa was designed as a sniper mech to support front line lances. Its primary armament consists of a huge gauss rifle mounted in the right arm and fed with three tons of reloads. An SRM 6 fed by one bin of ammunition allows the Sarissa to mop up anything that limps away from it's main gun, with 4 jump jets providing relatively good maneuverability.
>>98208414Kabuto KBO-S3K:(I didn't know there was already a Kabuto when I wrote this lmao)Noticing the precarious situation the Draconis Combine found itself in at the start of the reign of the ilClan, Minister of Defense Frederik Prince lobbied the Archon to sell mechs to their long time enemies in house Kurita. Given the grave situation the Commonwealth found itself in, the Archon relented. Both the Kabuto and its sister mech, the Tanegashima, were built with the needs of the Combine military in mind. The Offense to the Tanegashima’s Defense, the Kabuto was built with triple strength myomer and an endo steel structure to save weight. A Clan Large Pulse Laser was its main armament, with two ER medium pulse lasers to support it. A single rocket launcher 15 proves a close range blast before the Kabuto can use its Vibroblade and Shield to cut down anything still standing. 6 improved jump jets serve to warm up the myomer and provide the otherwise sluggish heavy mech with extra mobility.
>>98208416>Tanegashima TGH-S8KNoticing the precarious situation the Draconis Combine found itself in at the start of the reign of the ilClan, Minister of Defense Frederik Prince lobbied the Archon to sell mechs to their long time enemies in house Kurita. Given the grave situation the Commonwealth found itself in, the Archon relented. Both the Tanegashima and its sister mech, the Kabuto, were built with the needs of the Combine military in mind. The Defense to the Kabutos Offense, the Tanegashima was built simply using Inner Sphere parts to cheapens construction, with modular mountings to allow ease of customization on the end user. An ER PPC serves as the mech's primary weapon, backed up by a large pulse laser and a streak SRM 2 for close ranges. 14 tons of armor provide full coverage, with 4 jump jets and a MASC system allowing for pilots to reposition should the formations elsewhere require assistance.
>>98208418>Congreve CGV-S1HConstructed as the prime fire support mech, the Congreve takes its name from the inventor of the first widely used missile. In honor of that, it has 100 Clan grade LRM tubes spread across its arms, chest and legs, with enough missiles for 2 minutes of continuous fire from all of them. Twin jump jets allow the Congreve to circumvent difficult terrain its Vlar 300 engine would struggle to navigate.14 tons of armor provide light protection for a 100 ton mech, and it has only a pair of medium pulse lasers mounted in its collar should the mech run dry on ammunition.I had a few others, but they were kinda shitty either in the Fluff blurbs I wrote for them or in design, so that's it.
>>98208404The Comguards were a branch of ROM for a long time because the big boss after the one who formed them was terminally butthurt about them taking away the budget that used to be used for security by ROM. Then they got split back out again by a later boss.
>>98208400It's the secret facility where the Regulans designed and made their most unga bunga mechs.
>>98208428A worthy rival for the Arrow IV Urbie
>>98208379No argument there. Only appalling retardation explains why they would bid away their advantages over an enemy they didn't even respect.
>>98208270>>98208251The Ghost Bears didn't manage shit, in spite of their Newtype powers AND tard rage.
>>98207647>I want my damn space vikingsBest you can get are Space Rus, meaning that the Hague ultimately belongs to the Confederacy.
>>98207802There's a Wiki for FanTROs and Alts/Fanfics.
Comstar rep, what do?
TUF terrain
>>98208725Make him an offering of glowsticks and Eurodance singles.
Arctic Terrain
>>98208751Huge Ganges river basin energy.
>>98208760>>98208757>>98208751>>98208748>Core kit is 100 dollaridoosouch
>>98208755Your relics are acceptable trade to Interstellar Bank of Comstar.
>>98208725
>>98208748>>98208751>>98208757>>98208760Looks great! I just already have a bunch of old herohex plus stl models to print more.
>>98208763I really enjoyed created a brown water map hahaWith steep canyon walls, could be trouble for ‘Mechs without jump jets depending how to rule on the depth>>98208764Eh>>98208774Thanks bud!
>>98208411>>98208416>>98208418I wish a decent free video hosting site existed for uploads. I have a 10.5 minute supercut of the Torrington assault from Unicorn that used to be on Youtube but got taken down. It's fascinating watching the tech disparity unfold across the UC Gundam properties, where the initial Zeon assault of a mixed bag of remnant models is doing staggeringly well against the base garrison right up until a single Byarlant pops out of a hangar and smokes at least 8 suits effortlesslyl it takes a combo from a Zaku Sniper and a Marasai to finally do something about it, but by then the tide of the attack turns as more advanced Feddie suits show up and just break the offensive outright.
>>98208801Unicorn was literally fan porn for people who actually watched all the old UC series. I still remember being like "Holy shit, that's a Dwadge and a Kallus!" in the Torrington attack. Even the beginning at Dakar where it's a mix of Nemos and there's a single GM III in the background. Absolutely rock hard the whole series. The ZZ cameos were particularly delicious.Also, IMO it was the better skill of the veteran Zeeks carrying them in the old OYW suits, and Londo Bell showing up was more about them being special forces with modern suits rather than just the second.Now, I need to watch Ep. 4 again.
>>98208813The supercut splices the Dakar raid into the Torrington attack, the presence of a Capule in both makes it seamless. Unicorn fucked a ton of things up, but the battles did not disappoint.
>>98208768What's the context of this image?
>>98207647Jarnfolk's all you're getting.
>>98208844https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih2gxLqR7HM
Ever had an idea that you loved in your mind but then when you tried it IRL were like, "man, I don't even know anymore" but you were too deep into it to not see it through?Related, here is my current WIP with it's basecoat roughed in.
>>98208861Deutschland Uber Alles?
>>98208870Wurst mit uns!
>>98208420>the clans decide they need an aquatic battlemech
>>98208957Perfection.
>>98209014>they can afford to slap 4x PPCs into a single mech because the water can cool it down>theres a fifth PPC that can only fire straight up to hole ships from below
>>98208957POWERFUL
Just grabdealed the 40th anniversary box (pic related); what am I in for?I'm sad I lost all of my miniatures for the 25th anniversary box that was released ages ago, having to restart again sucks
>>98209038hot mech on mech action
>>98207064My man!
Battletech is dated by the fact that the dominant Asian cultures being represented are Chinese and Japanese, and not Koreans, jeets or SEA monkeys like it would have been were it made in the 2020s
>>98209038Looking up pictures of the models in question should cure you of any regret unless you have terminal boomer brain.
>>98209130considering japanese media is only more popular now than in the 80s, a japan-themed faction is pretty evergreen
>>98209130It hasn't escaped notice that BattleTech is a setting in which the dominant cultures are almost exclusively European or East Asian. In fact, there hasn't been any other universe with such comprehensive POC erasure since David Wingrove's Chung Kuo series where every human not of Western or Chinese descent has been exterminated
>>98209130Reminder that geographic determinism strongly implies that the planets of the Terran Hegemony were primarily colonized by Subsaharan Africans, simply because Africa's got the best geography for repeated launches and it also has the population to support colonization.So your former Hegemony planet citizens should realistically be some shade of coffee, with the graduation being Au Lait around Terra, Fine Ebony halfway to the future succ states and Mystery Chai anywhere close to any of the border regions.
>>98209259Today I will remind them.
>>98209268except that most of the naggers and most of the g00ks killed themselves off before that whole thing.already IRL the race war 'MUH EQUITY' retards are complaining about how the only people actually qualified to go to space are white or japanese.
nor are they going to take any slimy, corrupt street sharters who think work is a dirty word either. so space is going to be very white and japanese. because work ethic.
>>98209268>and it also has the population to support colonizationThey're demonstrably some of the worst populations for colonization missions. South africa has been actively regressing to a pre-20th century level of technology, much of subsaharan africa are engulfed in active civil wars or are otherwise failed states, they routinely fail to maintain infrastructure built in their territory by past colonial efforts where even the indians have managed to not just maintain but expand their railroad infrastructure after the british left.The interstellar nations would just use launch areas as near to the equator as they can in their own territory as they do now or establish colonial holdings in africa to use as launch areas and ship colonists there prior to missions.
Just ordered TRO 3025 Centennial Edition from Amazon. It's not print-on-demand, right? I really hope it isn't
>>98209413It's not. I got it at my LGS and it was decent quality
Are there any examples of a bloodname trial being fought hand to hand or otherwise not in a mech of vehicle? I know with other trials there can be bidding, but I'm unsure if you can get a bloodname by just beating the piss out of someone.
>>98207647>I want my damn space vikingsThe Ghost Bears are viking cosplayers.If you want actual space vikings, you want a faction of adventurers that spends most of their time traveling from planet to planet, and alternating between trading and just taking what they want. Perhaps a faction that everyone has to deal with, whether they want to or not, and it's easier to just trade with them than provoke them into raiding your planet. Hint: that faction already exists. >>98209259You have the reading comprehension of an addled sloth.It's a core feature of the setting that various planets have various racial compositions, but 5 specific planets are the heads of the various coalitions. Recall that the Combine is like half Indian, and the FedSuns are at least a quarter. Meanwhile, Tamar is full of Pakistanis. The Magistracy is dominated by Africans (yep, plenty of the cat girl sex workers are black), while the actual Asian component of the Combine has a high proportion of Chinese and southeast Asian genetics (Japanese were always a tiny minority). Lots of Mexicans ended up in the FWL. I don't know where South Americans are, but I'm sure some anons could tell you.
>>98209259Just look at Bloodnames. There are Bloodnames from all over the world. There are even a surprisingly high number of bloodnames that are Arabic or Jewish.
>>98209626I ascended to a high position within my clan not through any particular skill in battle, but through my discovery at an early age of how sensitive the testicles of my sibkin were to being squeezed in the Circle of Equals
>>98209671>>98204429
>>98209268The cost of international travel is already trivial, working class people in any country with a space program could afford travel to a launch site on another continent and that's assuming they have to pay for it themselves, it's the space travel part and the cost of funding a colony that would be the cost prohibitive part so it would pay to be selective about who you send. Also space colonization presumably has some kind of purpose, either economic or territorial, and sending the least productive people in the world who also foreign nationals who aren't part of your culture accomplishes neither.
>>98209716You just keep coping if it makes you feel betterThe fact is that all human ethnicities are represented in the fiction
>>98209268>any of thisMotherfucker Africans can't survive now on EARTH, what the fuck do you think is going to happen if they get sent to fucking space?
>>98209789I know that, what I am saying is that you're fucking stupid. Nobody setting up a space colony is sending foreigners because they happened to be near a launch site. Battletech has African planets because in battletech African populations were able to colonize space, not because they were dragged there by white people for no coherent reason.
>>98209789Yeah because it's fiction.A brown future is confined to earth on an extinction slope, a space based future is white and/or yellow.
Tonk for our resident floof autist.
>>98209832>>98209797>>98209716>>98209373>>98209278The Hegemony was a OWG. They would naturally send out Africans, because that's what the US part of the OWG thinks an OWG should do.
>>98209877A rising tide raises all ships. In a world where interstellar travel becomes increasingly accessible and colonization of extra-solar planets is going on, I would absolutely expect to see a country like Nigeria to hard push to be the first African country to have an extra-solar colony as soon as it became plausible to purchase and/or rent the means to do so, it would be a huge prestige win and the experience doing it would set them up for doing it more by themselves in the future if that ever became feasible. But the idea that Europeans and Asians are going to scoop up whoever is around and shoot them into space is either some deranged white man's burden shit or some wish fulfillment about setting up slave plantations in space.
>>98209965This is the most compelling argument so far.
>>98209969It doesn';t work that way, every time they are shown how to govern and manage a nation and then left to do so, they destroy everything and slope backward to corruption, poverty and starvation. EVERYTHING nice they have was given to them by outsiders.
>>98209293If white people are supposed to have better work ethics, how come African and Middle-Eastern immigrants are willing to work longer hours for less pay? If anything, it seems to me whites require more incentives to work, and would rather remain unemployed instead of working at a "shit job" like cleaner or delivery driver (a job that would reward good work ethics, since the amount of money you make is directly tied to how many deliveries you can make per day, yet I don't even remember the last time I've seen a white delivery driver, while African, Indian, or Arab ones are everywhere).
>>98207611>The lesson we should be learning here is that the devs are vulnerable to showing up in person and forcing your opinions on them. Davionman with the shotgun had the right idea.That's just going to lead to a Battle Royal where we're all fighting each other over the Devs.>>98207848>And if you aren't mad, then you shouldn't be here.But I'm just crazy!>>98208270>Once the Puru is mass-produce we'll put an end to the Inner Sphere in no time!Oh no, not the redheaded Waifus!
>>98210022This is not a white vs brown people thing, it's a migrant worker vs native wroker thing, but I assume you aren't interested in the actual answer to this question.
>>98210022Quality vs quantity, immigrant workers do trash work for longer hours to milk taxpayer subsidized pay.
>>98210077...While also paying taxes themselves and into programs like Social Security...
>>98210022The gig economy goes deeper than you probably think it does consists of a shitload of different types of people. It includes:>People who are effectively uhirableThere are loads of people who het filtered by job applications or interviews for a variety of reasons, such as being practically illiterate, having terrible verbal communication skills, being slightly crazy, or being super ugly/having a physical deformity (I guess you would call it being "unpresentable"), or not speaking an appropriate language.>People with a spotty work history.Gig apps don't give a fuck when the past time you had a job was.>People with very severe organizational problems.This is sort of the slightly crazy category, but it also includes people who can't show up to a normal job on time/dressed properly/with appropriate hygiene.>People who can only work irregular hours.People who are currently injured, have to take care of children or other dependents, etc>People who are temporarily unemployed Literally doing a job between jobs>People who are not legally employable at all There's an entire industry set up to get people who can't legally work access to work using these services, both where people will rent accounts to other people and where people will fraudulently create new accounts for a fee.The gig economy supports people who have difficulty getting conventional employment, it should be pretty easy to see why minorities, immigrant and otherwise often end up doing these jobs perpetually, but you only see white people doing them when they're desperate.
>>98209965Fuck, yeah Globohomo WOULD waste trillions and decides to ship their pets.
>>98208801>Instantly clocked that I watched the Attack on Torrington Baselmao. And yeah, that video (RIP) was a major inspiration when I wrote these. Some of the other mechs I did was the Juaggu and Dom Tropen. And I've only ever watched the Original '79 Gundam and Igloo, so its not even fan porn, the battles are just that good. Shame the rest of Unicorn is shit.
>>98210172>gig economy only exists to provide for undesirable people Welp time to make that shit illegal.
>>982101850083 Stardust Memory is a kind of prequel to that attack, just years earlier and not as big in scale.
>>98210095No.
>>98210172The point was, most white people, even if unemployed, would rather remain at home sending job applications than work as a Doordash driver. To be honest, I would as well. But that goes against the idea that white people have uniquely high work ethics, since in that case you'd expect them to take any job, no matter how shitty, to escape the shame of being jobless.
>>98210300I prefer to think of it as desperate third worlders having very low standards of living. White people fought hard for minimum wage and workers rights and safety standards. Third worlders tolerate working 14 hour shifts on a machine with no guards because they're desperate. We should not aspire to be desperate.
>>98210275It's better than them being on welfare. It's even if they're also on welfare while they are doing it it's better because they're at least doing something useful. The criminal part needs to be gotten under control though because it supports illegal immigration, benefits abuse, parcel theft rings, all kinds of crap, they're also not well regulated in terms of labor law.
>>98210300>doordash
>>98209259Choose your fighter for the BT setting:>FASA's sensible racismOr>CGL's globohomo inclusivity
>>98210300The protestant work ethic is cringe anyway.
>>98209259It makes sense when you take into account what nations would be most likely to actually be colonizing space.
The original plans to colonize Inglesmond came to a halt in 2349; although the British group had plans in place to colonize Inglesmond—which they had named New Britain—Director-General Michael Cameron had other plans. Intent on measures designed to defuse nationalistic or regional patriotism on Terra, Cameron selected Inglesmond as a trial world to be part of a propaganda effort, gifting the world—which he described as a "custom-made paradise"—to the nation known as Brazil. Cameron was intent on weaning the population of states such as Brazil away from supporting nationalistic causes, and instead tie them directly to the Hegemony, by distributing elements of the population to colony worlds across Terran space. The measure was reasonably popular in Brazil, with a Lusophone Brazilian group colonizing the planet, which they had given the slang name "English World," a name that Hegemony bureaucrats—predominantly English-speaking, in this case—immortalized incorrectly as "Inglesmond." Cameron believed the project to be successful enough that he used other colony worlds such as Brownsville, Lone Star and New Dallas in similar schemes to earn the loyalty of other groups on Terra.[4]
>>98210402Fucking Camerons
>>98209259What do you mean anon? The dragon is a strong believer in diversity.
>>98210300People who have bad employment prospects, spend longer unemployed or can't be legally employed are more likely to be in the gig economy than someone who thinks their time is better spent looking for a better job becsuse it probably is and also becauae its probably illegal for them to work while being on unemployment? Shocking!
>>98210422The Combine is an interesting case of being for the most part racially-colorblind but culturally intolerant of differences. The Azami had to beat asses to stay culturally distinct by treaty.
>>98210453It does seem rather common to be racially-colorblind, the old house books make it seem like it's a non-issue by the time they were moving to the stars and even less so by 3025.
>>98210459This is proof that FASA was always wokeshit garbage made by trannies and Battletech is irredeemable
>>98210349You don't understand, I don't mean the JOBS made illegal.
>>98210534Oh thats okay then.
I'm not sure if you guys honored the dragon today.
>>98210402>Cameron's try not to ruin everything: task impossible
>>98210464KEK
>>98210615The Wolverine is cooler than the Griffin
>>98210965It speaks for itself that prior to the Black Knight, one of the test cases for a command and control 'mech was the Wolverine; Griffin was never even considered, because it's not a boss.
>>98210949I wasn't making a joke anon.
What do you guys think of the Battletech movie? It's been a long time since I watched it, but I liked it.
>>98211344You posted the wrong poster>Novelization by Robert Thurston, who you may know from the Jade Phoenix trilogy
>>98211344Great film but unfortunately basically nothing to do with BattleTech.For something that feels a lot closer, try picrel.
>Russians are clannersCome on now anon. I'm supposed to believe that the soviet's would ever be comparable in skill and technology to the Clans. Absurd. Only way that could happen is if someone on the inside was giving away the secrets of our green laser technology.
Haha nice work, twin!
>>98211359>>98211370Crash and burn!
Almost finished, just need to add the AP gauss rifles. Maybe the radar is too much.
>>98211761Looks pretty good anon. Plan to upload it somewhere?
>>98211965I don't plan to, but I may do eventually. If I do put them somewhere I'll put a link in this thread.
>>98204922You know what? I kinda dig it. Good on him for making the mechwarrior a baste hard gay gym bunny instead of a disgusting tranny.
>>98211613Crash and burn!
You know what, I love hearing about everyone's super special snowflake armies and characters, so tell me about your dudes. For my dudes>SLDF stayed behind and became mercs>Fought for Combine for two succession wars and even got their own planet, a step away from being house troops>Lost their world in third succession war and then further buttfucked by the Death to Mercenaries order, suffering heavy casualties as they fought their way out of the Combine>Joined Federated Commonwealth despite hating Davions for taking their homeworld>During clan invasion repainted their mechs to SLDF colours and returned to the name of their old regiment to possibly annoy clans who acted like they were the last remnant of the SLDF>Joined second star league but fucked off during Fedcom civil war when it was clear that the star league wasn't gonna last>Went to periphery, serving in Nueva Castille, Umayyad Caliphate, and Hanseatic League>Serving Hanseatic League when Scorpion Empire conquers themTorn between them forming a cluster of the Scorpion Touman or a small force fighting their way out to bring them to the Ilclan era
>>98210459Yeah, you had people of all colors being in all strata of society across the Inner Sphere. I mean, this chopped black guy was the Duke of Hesperus II. If that haircut is tolerated, anything could be. Except trannies.
>>98212206The interesting consequence of everyone having extremely varied skin tones that the writers likely didn't think about is that it implies people still self segregate to a great degree.An extremely dark skinned person, assuming it is not a skin condition, requires there to be a population of dark skinned people that are genetically isolated, that do not intermingle with lighter skinned people, by choice. The same goes for light skinned people.The peoples assimilate into the greater cultures but still remain separate from other ethnicities, even within the same culture, at least when it comes to sexual relations.
>>98212292Isn't it more because the segregation would have happened before they even arrived on the planet?
>>98212303And they have maintained that segregation for possibly over a thousand years.
You definitely can't trust the art to accurately depict the way characters look, and you can only sometimes trust text descriptions.
Okay but how do I fuck a mech.
>>98212082Remember that history rhymes rather than repeats. SLDF remnants running away from the Sphere to being absorbed into a Clan works in this regard, but how yourguys personally deal with it going forward is more important.>just an excuse for yourdudes to have reasonable access to 2nd line robots by ilClan
>>98212389Go to Canopus and get the standard package for your mech installed. They'll know what you're talking about and you'll get an instructional booklet while they work on your mech.
>>98212082can't fully type out mydudes' lore due to character limit, might write a pastebin and post it either this thread or next one
>>98212389Sensually
Just started playing Battletech, and reading in to the setting. I'm really interested in the Free Rasalhague Republic, and then subsequently the Ghost Bear/Rasalhague Domnion. What are some books you would recommend?
