Conspiracy Edition>Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>98189237>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread questionWhat AoS-related conspiracy theories do you believe, or are at least willing to entertain?
>TQMalarion model is in this picture
>>98205157>tqI wholeheartedly believe the new idoneth incarnate was supposed to be a generic ghur incarnate in 3rd edition, as part of a trio with the Krondspine and the also scrapped spider incarnate from the rumour engine.The spider incarnate would've represented Gallet, the idoneth incarnate Andtor (a craggy coastal landscape, as seen on the map), in the same way that the Krondspine represents Thondia. All three are the major regions of the primary continent of the Ghurish Heartlands.Of course the whole incarnate thing got thrown into disarray because 3rd edition was a fucking mess behind the scenes, so the other two incarnates never got released, eventually recycling the andtor incarnate into an idoneth unit because eh why not. I think we might also see the spider incarnate at some point, recycled as another faction specific incarnate. Maybe gits because spiders, maybe umbraneth because of shadows, we'll see
Hedonite announcement in ~57 minutes. Get hype!
>>98205218Looks way to Deepkin-ish for me to believe this
>>98205121Not to mention that Ouboroth is still alive as Sekhar's snake minion. I can't remember the source but Ushoran took one look at it and heavily implied it's a lot more powerful then it lets on
>>98205254Those details could have been added after the decision was made to repurpose it.
>>98205254Honestly there's nothing particularly idoneth-y about it. Compare to the eidolon for example, which has a million seacreatures swimming around. The incarnate just has rocks and starfish.
>>98205343His build around a sunken ship, whcih is Idoneth terrain piece
>>98205157On the same note, I believe the Coghead Duardin mentioned in the same booklet were Ironweld/Dispossessed rather than KO and they just went in another direction after some concept work.
>>98205218>Gallet It was Ulgu. The Krondspine is an incarnate of Ghur, not Thondia. What would that have been an incarnate of? No realm is centred around water outside of Ulgu, which would've been the Spider according to both leakers and the Thondia cliffhanger
Is the a scan of the new CoS battletome already?
Remember wizard focused Cogfort?
>>98205244Oh fuck I was right and it's even betterhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/0y4dh0xg/sunday-preview-hedonites-head-into-battle-along-with-a-new-generals-handbook/
>>98205428They're still coming, just not with the tome but the final campaign.
That's Jon Cave's art, no?
dont even play slaanesh so never gonna buy these but kinda really dig these dice
>>98205481yeah they do look nice. Like mutilated flesh. I wonder where my foreskin is now...
>>98205431>still no warcry rules for the city of ash stuff*sad chaos noises*
>>98205502It's dead, Jim.
>>98205375The krondspine is a mountain range *in* thondia. As for the spider incarnate, we have artwork showing it in the background when talking about ghur and the gnarlwood and shit (which btw is at the edge of thondia and gallet)We know from rumourmongers that season of war thondia was supposed to be followed up by a season of war gallet and a season of war thondia.Oh and also, from the general's handbook we know gallet is a land full of tunnels and chasms, "where the dominant lifeforms is the arthropod".So to recap;We had season of war thondia dropping the krondspine (which is in thondia) incarnateThis was supposed to be followed by a season of war gallet, which we know is all about spiders and shitWe know the spider rumour engine is an incarnate, and that it's connected to gallet via the gnarlwoodWe know that this book was then eventually supposed to be followed up by a season of war andtor, which is a coastal regionThen a couple years later, GW just out of the blue drops this centrepiece on idoneth, a faction which had received nothing but heroes since launch, and which is already inundated with centrepieces I rest my caseone criticism which I can think of is that andtor looks to be a fairly cold region, which nothing on the incarnate of the deeps really draws attention too.
Turns out Aos was due a model of that one Blanche art piece. Bit sad how both forgeworld and Blanche is gone.
>>98205606Interesting, wonder what faction this model would have been used for since it doesn't really suit any of the current factions like the Slambo model did
>>98205618she's a chaos warrior just like slambo
>>98205619Slambo looks more like a current-day Chaos Warrior than she does, but I can see kinda see it shield specifically is kinda Slaaneshy
>>98205200This shit turns me into a flat earth conspiracist, like it can't be anything else but a teaser. The fact ole mally hasn't launched is more baffling then anything else.
>>98205592>one criticism which I can think of is that andtor looks to be a fairly cold region, which nothing on the incarnate of the deeps really draws attention too.It's possible that the stone teeth were originally supposed to be ice
>>98205606Yeah, it's been floating around for a couple years. Sprue says 2018, though it looks kind of off and weirdly stiff. Was probably designed like a decade earlier, sat around until they figured maybe we could release it in aos, but then something happened and it got blocked. Who knows.
>>98205431wtf these are out of the blue for me, did I miss these being revealed or released elsewhere?
>>98205686They were released in a FOMO box a while ago, so this is their full release
>>98205645Mhm, maybe. Good point>>98205686Did you somehow miss city of ash? These are just those guys available separately now.
>>98205592>>98205645They regularly describe the Idoneth incarnate as attacking with freezing water. The tendrils attacks are even called "Freezing Grasp". So them originally being intended as chunks of ice isn't far fetched. There's also not a single Idoneth design cue on the model besides the sea life and detritus. No scalloped lockboxes or broken pottery like pic related. The 3 regions incarnate feels like a more sound theory to me than Krondpine-Ghur, Spider-Ulgu, Fincarnate-???.
>>98205742>GRASPING TENDRILS:The Incarnate reaches out across the ethersea to conjure tendrils of freezing, coiling waterHuh, you're right.But yeah I think it would've been something like>krondspine incarnate of ghur [thondia]>gnarlwood incarnate of ghur [gallet]>krakensea incarnate of ghur [andtor]Last two names are just ideas of course, but they do follow the krondspine example.Honestly I think we got a pretty solid case here fellas
>>98205375>No realm is centred around water outside of UlguGhyran kind of is, in a way. It's where the idoneth equivalent of hammerhal is located (priom). Ghyran as a wind of magic was also always associated with water and the sea, for example the sea elemental of the whfrpg is created by an abundance of ghyran magic. I believe in tow the cathayans have their own names for the winds of magic, and ghyran becomes the elemental wind of magic.
>>98204463I'd bet it's more than likely mancrushers and endless spells. I'm wondering if they'll sell multi mancrusher boxes with maybe one alternate build and then you can run 2 mancrushers and a shaman. (Just like every time they pull that annoying shit of, 2-3 model kit, ONE CAN BE BUILT AS A HERO FOR SOME REASON)
What's the deal with khinerai heartrenders/lifetakers, and are they worth taking? I'm new to DoK, and I can't really figure out how to place them in a list. Do I use them as a skirmishing unit? Do I rush them down the board at a soft target? Do I just use them as a distraction for something more important?My instincts are telling me I should be playing DoK like a lawnmower - build up some buffs and then commit to hyper-aggression - so a unit designed more around poke than anything else kinda throws me off.
If I knew how hard it would be to paint the underside/chest of some of these clanrats I wouldn't have picked up this fucking army
>>98205880You can already run mancrushers as 1, so nothing changes.But it probably will be the hero option in a non-hero unit like Lord of Afliction or the dragon knight
>>98205998>But it probably will be the hero option in a non-hero unit like Lord of Afliction or the dragon knightThat shit drives me insane, because my fucking brain wants to run a normal reinforced unit.It's like that shit back on the xbox 360 where you played a demo of a game and it automatically gave you an achievement worth like... 17 points or some shit, and the only way to round it out was by buying the game.
>>98205986i get the perfectionism but honestly if you're just painting for tabletop quality covering everything in your shadow color and a wash if you're feeling frisky is enough. the undersides of models are for competition level painting and more often then not being painted before assembly to do so.
>>98205986Juice ain't worth the squeeze brother, I've learned if it's a unit that goes up to 40 it's better to not go crazy on detail work. you'll barely notice it when you're struggling to shuffle them across the board.
>>98205986>>98206088I feel like the NuSkaven models were designed specifically for contrast paints.
>>98206107I think a lot of new stuff is designed specifically to work with contrast! I feel like people here give contrast a lot of shit but using it as a tool or with a bit more care it can make some nice effects.
>>98206115I don’t like them because I paint for the painting rather than playing and I also like to be in control of every brush stroke but I certainly recognize why they’re popular.
>>98206140I dunno man, shit like skeleton horde makes a better agrax than agrax. Or some of the opaque ones area fantastic, black legion (or templar) make some of the smoothest black I've seen.I feel like it's another tool like a wash or oils.
>>98206157Tbf I dislike washes too
>>98206169>dislikes washes>yet his GOAT washed
>>98205363Yeah, but their ship isnt an idoneth ship, its a sigmarite ship, who knows how many of those are in Ghur's seas
>>98206115>>98206140Contrast paints i find work very well as a very hard wash, using it over parts that were already painted the same color
>>98206373Skeleton horde is one of my favorite paints ever. If not just because it always creates this nice dull effect on stuff.
>>98205428He also said there'd be a mercenary RoR with four wizards
>>98205448Does that imply cities is getting a 4th wave?
>>98205431Does this mean the Soggy rules are gone? RIP
>>98205200It's LRL Vs SBGL I'm guessing it's some terrain or something GW don't want to promote like a figure from another company used as a statue? Totally looks like a hand and some kind of chain
>>98206399Now that gets me hype. I need more wizards for my tzeentch boys.
>>98205481Wow I really want these for my ECs.
>>98205431Any leaks from the HoS tome or the GHB?
>>98206453What was their third wave?
>>98206572OG wave, I'm counting city of ash as a wave, and then the most recent wave.
>>98206453>Get the ogor in the 2nd wave and gargant in the 3rdI'm looking forward to the inevitable mega gargant
>>98206575I'd say city of ash was just an early release of their second wave. Like how helsmiths had their army set release a bit earlier.
Is a mono Tzaangor army playable? Tzaangors + spawn + mega gargant maybe
>>98206639Gosbeast in 5th, trust the plan
>>98206169Watching how other people (even professionals) use washes makes my eyes shoot open like I'm watching a car accidentThey just slop that shit on and it seems insane and difficult to control that way
>>98206882Agrax was the biggest lie I was ever sold. Feel like everyone talks about slopping it on and it magically creates a weathered shade on a model when the reality is it looks like you pulled it out of some wet mud. Feel like a lot of YouTubers do editing tricks with their drying times and touch ups
>>98206767Tzeentch in general is strong but minus the shooting aspect of it, warflock is definitely good. The army is extremely selfish however and doesn’t like regiments of renown.
>>98206903Skeleton horde is the secret, Agrax can be nice sometimes but Skeleton horde (or whatever army painter equivalent)
>>98205976They're for grabbing objectives and killing weak heroes. You have the flying in the air, then they drop down late game to steal points and throw spears at people.The D6 move after shooting means you can kind of keep them out of harm's way
>>98205363And Nighthaunt have under the sea models too, IDK don't have monopoly over sea-everything much like KO don't have monopoly over air everything given how skaven and gobbo airships keep appearing both in lore and in white dwarf kitbashes.
>>98206919Yup.
>>98207012KO are a visually nautical army masquerading as a flying army to be fair.
>>98207012>And Nighthaunt have under the sea models tooThey have like, the 1.
>>98205157>TQI can think of:>gw planning to kill off slaanesh in early development, maybe replaced with malerion (connected to ynmari stuff in 40k)>Kragnos/ogroid/BoC shenanigans>spider incarnate (basically confirmed tbf)>idk incarnate = recycled generic incarnate (also connected to the spider incarnate)>cancelled broken realms : alarielle>the last world is a leaker honeypot (lol)(I feel like I'm forgetting one or two big ones though)Rank 'em from most to least plausibleI would consider the slaanesh and both incarnate ones as pretty likely, broken realms alarielle as dunno, and the kragnos and tlw stuff as pretty unlikely
They’re plotting to kill us in the /wfg/ thread.
>>98207153the retirement home?why?
>>98206919I’ll have to give it a go. I ordered a set of army painter speed paints when I first started out and just felt like they weren’t working for me and returned them but maybe it’s time to give em a second chance
>>98206970So, use them to grab objectives in the early/late game, and use them like skirmishers in the mid game? Wouldn't you get more value out of shadowstalkers for grabbing objectives, or a gladiatrix or ironscale for tying up or killing heroes?Just trying to figure out how they'd play with other units on the board. Like, I sort of see how I'd run them in a more snake-focused list. Paired with blood stalkers, you have a decent amount of poke for DoK list, plus the decent movement of blood sisters means you're fielding a fairly mobile force. I just don't really get where they'd fit in with a more elf-focused list.
man kinda hating how plausible it is that the idoneth manifestation is a recycle of an incarnate, i want idoneth specific manifestations a lot of potential there
>>98207158The new stuff with the updated line and formula have worked out well, I wouldn't say they're all perfect but Boney Matter is something I buy on the regular.
>>98207153I mean they have time for random bullshit when their last release preview was almost a year ago.
>>98207147>>98207170Oh that reminds me, there's also the idea that idoneth were literally just one guy's passion project (similar to how Maxime Pastourel is basically singlehandedly responsible for death guard being so big in 40k) and they have no clue wtf to do with them once that guy left.A more advanced form of this theory is the notion that it was alan merrett himself who was the passion project guy in question.
>>98207201although plausible cant imagine it would matter that much for releases. i feel itd be easy enough to find at least one person that finds atlantis elves intriguing enough to create new concept and direction for them idoneth would certainly get more releases if they were more popular simple as
>>98207161Your units are only really strong as they gain Blood Rites. So turn one you actually want to hold back. This forces your opponent towards you leaving their back end of the board unprotected for the Khinerai to dive into.An Iron scale can kill heroes, but needs to get into their face and you want to keep it alive to buff your sneks.The Khinerai are a nuisance piece that's sacrificial
>>98207147>>the last world is a leaker honeypot (lol)At this point I'm a perfect 50:50 on this one being true or not.
>>98207217>idoneth would certainly get more releases if they were more popular simple asI do feel like that's at least a little bit of a vicious cycle though, since range size is probably the nr 1 most important factor in determining popularity. Not that it's the only factor, but certainly the most important one.>fury of the deepWas there ever a more kino vs box in all of warhammer?
>>98207201Literally just give them a proper elit infantry with a melee and rnaged harpoon options, and you get a perfectly rounded up army, maybe add a couple more sea monster rider units, like a wizard on a jellyfish or something, literally the easiest correct decision one could come up with.They have awesome armor, all their characters that wear armor are fucking sick as fuck, yet their only infantry choice are naked and victims of a magical misscarige
>>98207230>Khinerai are a nuisance piece that's sacrificialMakes a lot of sense when you frame it like that.So, if their strength is around the mid-point of the game where they have space to exploit, would it be better to run one unit of them since they'll probably die, a reinforced unit to make them last longer, or two separate units to operate independently?
>>98207325I have found 2 units is best. Gives you more versatility.I have run reinforced but it doesn't seem to offer any real advantage vs 2 units.
>>98207153Can they hurry it up
>>98207153How do?
Are IDK the least popular faction?
>>98207605Going of Meta-watch type shit like Woehammer it's Fyreslayers below Gitz. From April to June 7th this year, Fyreslayers were in 90 matches and Gitz in 521.
>>98207706Gets being that low is surprising, always thought they were a big seller
>>98207716Gitz players are hard to find in a tournament
>>98207716Big hobby seller, much less popular on the table.
>>98207787Ah yeah what I meant was whether IDK are the least popular, sales wise
>>98207818Oh, probably not. I'd give that to Fyreslayers or Ogors. Kitbash use also comes into effect and people do like using IDK stuff from time to time.
I'll remain forever in awe at how Nurgle keeps getting the coolest-looking minis in all of Chaos. It's fucking BS how they make the faction of puss-filled, disease-ridden, worm-infested, death-bloated, nasty motherfuckers look so fucking GREAT. Slaven Knights, New Blightlords and Rotsworn all have me salivating. The Rotsworn helmest make fucking DIAMONDS holy shit.Worst part is I am very much a Tzeentch dude, and I fucking hate 99% of that range.Remember way back when, when I was far more active here and into AoS there was this anon, the Rotbark guy. I wonder what he thinks about the new models.
>>98207835Yeah, Nurgle got a 10/10 release wave. It's even got me eyeing them ever so slightly.I hope Rotbark anon liked them.
>>98205200feel like this one does not get talked about enough. what the FUCK could that model be other than malerion and whyyy would they cover it up so poorly? where is malerion ? this is a photo shoot for the first wave of lumineth that came out in 2nd ed
>>98207880I really wonder what happened too, it's been so long I half think they went full retard and scrapped the entire line just before the scheduled release
>>98207880>this is a photo shoot for the first wave of lumineth that came out in 2nd edImage search seems to indicate the earliest use of it was on Warcom when they started revealing rules for the 3e tome. That would probably be correct since it features the Enlightener who was the 3e pity hero.LRL's launch situation is typically, and incorrectly called their "second wave" because they only launched less than half of the kits they would finish out the edition with after BR:Teclis. From the reveal of LRL, they said they had designed a LOT of kits and I wish I could find the article, but I remember that line vividly. But people seem to have a chip on their shoulder about the whole thing because they perceive the staggered launch as a "second wave" so quickly after launch without considering the actual development timeline of minis. They wouldn't have made more sculpts than the army launched with in the year or so between the two halves.
>>98207827Ogors are not that unpopular. Especially in jp twitter, they’re looking forward to the new models even. >>98207835I like the nurgle models but it really irks me the wrong way they got the highlight wave in the middle of scourge of ghyran instead of sylvaneth. Don’t get me wrong, I understand why they did, they needed to finally portray why nurgles such a threat and it’s rivalry with sylvaneth, but I’m still peeved on sylvaneths only getting a pity hero. Battletome wise and even the trailer for the new mini are stellar though.
>>98207835Feel you Tzeench-bro. I dug ephilims pandemonium from Underworlds but I hate how the faction has literally limitless possibilities by definition and they make all the models look like dragon quest enemies
>>98208082JP seems to LOVE Stormcast from what I've seen. I also hope Ogors get a cool refresh.
>>98208082>>98208096>jp twitterWhos JP?
>>98208120Japan.
>>98208096Of course they do. Japan would ride or die for a stick figure if you told them it was the protagonist.
Boyz, I have a question: if Gorkamorka (Gorko and Morko) is an elemental god like the Chaos Gods, why on earth was he in the mortal realms (the mortal plane) along with the other ascended gods? Shouldn't he have been in the Chaos Realm in his own personal realm (some version of the Great Green from 40k)?
>>98208191>elemental god like the Chaos GodsIm fairly sure that Chaos Gods are not elemental, chaos is its own thing separate from the rest of elven, human and probably greenskin gods
>>98208082Ogors are pretty popular all around, honestly. They've never really been below the bottom of the middle like some armies have been.
>cult uprising doesn’t even let you get chaos spawn They really need to make armies of renown feel like they have had some thought put behind them because this shit is just lazy. I’d rather take pre-constructed armies than armies of renown at this point.
>>98208096>mfw Sigmarines aren't Space Marines>they're literal Thunder Warriors
>>98205200Maybe I'm blind but where?
>>98205606That artwork was used not just for White Dwarf. That artwork was on the cover of a Cloven Hoof albumt. Grew up in the 1980s
>>98208540Behind this rock, apparently, was always very unambiguously tree roots and branches for me, but schizos are gonna schizo
>>98207706Anon, these are ordered by win rates, not popularity
>>98208566Ignoring the part there's a hand there, why would they hide a tree like this? Why would a tree like this be on the icy mountain peak?
>>98208582>Ignoring the part there's a hand thereI fail to notice where it is> why would they hide a tree like this? Because its terrain somone in the studio made, and they just positioned it like this>Why would a tree like this be on the icy mountain peak?For the same reason theres a tree on top of a rock peak on the left border of the picture
>>98208592Left one isn't meant to be on ice. It's a shorter rock
>>98207706>>98208580This ranking got posted a few threads ago, it's a bit more useful imo since it combines tournament usage, instagram mentions, and subreddit activity, so it doesn't swing too hard towards one demographic. Still not perfect and somewhat time sensitive (this was probably made a few days after Adepticon, which is why for example CoS reddit activity is so high)Does seem to more or less line up with the 'eye test', stormcast and skaven at the top followed by gits and the other "S"-armies (StD, soulblight, sylvaneth). The at the bottom there's slaanesh, tzeentch, fyreslayers, sons of behemat, kruleboyz. Idoneth are a lower half army but not yet at the absolute bottom. Decidely not popular enough to be middle of the pack, but also not yet so dire to hang out with slaanesh. And their tome is pretty meh this edition, historically they've been one of the stronger armies which might bump em up two or three spot.
>>98208582To fuck with the AoS player base that create conspiracy theories because they are out of paint to drink.
>>98208625And what makes it different from the rock on the right? Besides the crystals, which are not ice, but very clearly meant to be the aetherquartz?
>>98208566Nta but it doesn't look at all to a tree root or branch to me. Compare to the ones on the left who are much stockier and rounded.Not saying it's definitely mally either but I don't know if I put much stock in the tree hypothesis either
>>98205200tyrion, not malerion
>>98205200if this actually turns out to be true I will kneel so hard to the marketing guys
Anyone has the rules for that gamemode exclusive for flying mosner units? Its from 2nd edition Whitedwarf if im not wrong
>>98208963It's in a GHB too
>>98208963Skies of slaughter? I think it's also included in the 2020 ghb, which you might have better luck finding.
>>98207147>cancelled broken realms : alarielleI believe it because the tiny blurb she has in Kragnos was all about BoC which they surely had decided to scrap by then - meaning Thondia was just shat out despite them knowing well in advance that it needed retooled
Khinerai lost their deep strike ability
>>982090723rd edition was such a fucking mess behind the scenes everything is possibleEspecially if you take into account boole's schizo rambling that khazalids were supposed to be released then, but then tow happened and two dwarf ranges seemed like a bad idea so their heroes got released for dwarf mountsin holds instead.I think boole is generally accurate but that story always came across as a bit schizo to me>>98209077Did you really need sloppa to do this?
>>98209088Yes.It's revolutionised things for us with no talent. I can make all the shit posts I want.
>>98209088ToW dwarf heroes were defienetly not designed by an AoS team. They look nothing like anything before or since
>>98209100>with no talentthis is beyond a lack of talent
>>98209100It's a screenshot with a png plastered on it anon, it'd probably take you less time than to proompt to boot.>>98209105It sounds exceedingly unlikely to me too, I agree.
>>98209105Boole said they were and the plastic heroes fit with the 8th ed kits so
>>98209235Boole also said the next starter set would be beastmen, or no wait slaanesh, or no wait...He's very reliable when it comes to upcoming miniatures, but his behind the scenes stories should be taken with a big grain of salt. Remember the plague troggoths.
>>98209235>the plastic heroes fit with the 8th ed kits soNot sure if i would agree, and Dorfs being towed has been on the nose since 2nd edition
>>98209235>Boole said they wereno, he didn't
>>98209316>Butwhen we started preparing all this back in 2020, we had almost nothing>We were short on people, short on designers, and definitely didn’t have any new models>What we ended up doing was pulling out the Tomb Kings and Bretonnia content originally planned for WHFB 8E, quickly designing some new material around them, and makingadjustments to older stuff>Games Workshop had high expectations for us—they wanted strong results>But no matter what, we couldn’t just overlap with what AOS already had>From a business standpoint, that wouldn’t have worked>So we handpickedmodels from AOS that weren’t central to it and brought them over to TOW[...]>And AOS is going to keep getting better, too>We originally borrowed the Dwarfen Mountain Holds content from AOS, tweaked it, and released a few models>Now those are going back to AOS, andyou’ll be seeing them again before long
>>98209327none of this says TOW used AoS Duardin models
>>98209256Yeah, he's only been right 100% so far for what actually released. I'm still waiting for Halflings, a wizard Cogfort, etc but even if he's right about those it doesn't mean he can't be wrong so I would always side on thinking he's wrong
>>98209327You goddamn retard, he's talking about the existing dispossessed range.
>>98209346>ToW dwarf heroes were defienetly not designed by an AoS team>Boole said they were>please follow the reply chain next time before sperging out
>>98209355>>Boole said they wereno, he didn't, keep up retard
>>98209346>We originally borrowed the Dwarfen Mountain Holds content from AOS, tweaked it, and released a few models>tweaked it what was changed about irondrakes, hammerers, etc?
>>98207586Something about sucking out our souls through our dicks.They were getting very...uh... Excited discussing it
>>98209370they removed references to sigmar from the sprues and gave them square bases
>>98209339>>We originally borrowed the Dwarfen Mountain Holds content from AOS, tweaked it, and released a few models?? is everybody in this thread suddenly illiterate or what's going on
Shut the fuck up and talk about this.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/75cyi2wg/succumb-to-temptation/
>>98209375They never had any, the only change is removing the specific text name for the Belegar and Cogsmith, as they used to be named characters
>>98209384are they basically reusing the DoK hero gimmick?
>>98209384New guy is tall.
just realising Slaanesh and SBGL are culturally cohesive because they were designed with The Last World geography in mind
>>98209394>SBGL>culturally cohesiveYou mean before or after they added and then removed all the slavic guys?
>>98209394anon one half of sbgl is generic pseudo gothic vampire and the other half is pseudo eastern european with a dash of bronze age conan barrow stuffThe latter of which was first added with cursed city in 2021 meaning it was probably designed somewhere around 2018
>>98209384no
>>98209394Your realisation is off the mark completely.Slaaneshi in the old world don't come from araby or any vaguely middle eastern sandy place.
>>98208580Good thing I went off “games played” and not actual stats, huh? Do better
>>98209419then why the fuck would you bring up gloomspite lol? Just move on from your mistake anon it's an anonymous forum nobody cares
>>98209441Because the gap between Fyreslayer matched and GSG matches was a gigantic gap? Good sign that Fyreslayers are hurting for fans. Be better
>>98209403>Slavic skeletons >Slavic vampires bronze age conan barrow stuff doesn't exist, the second deathrattle wave is Ulfenkarn Slavic style undead
>>98209462No, you specifically said fyreslayers were *below* gloomspite because you thought they were the second lowest faction.That's like somebody asking you where wolverhampton are in the table and saying "20th, below arsenal". Technically correct but makes no sense to reply like that.
>>98209540I concede. Correctly labeled. Still, do better faggot.
>>98209515All the slavic vampires are just cursed city rejects, let's not kid ourselves. All the generic vampire stuff is pseudo gothic, including those released in the most recent wave (vamp lord on steed and vhordrai)Also i definitely think the barrow skellies have some bronze age symbolism in their iconography: runes and sun disks and whatnot. It's not as prevalent as the eastern european armour stuff but it's there
>>98209575>All the slavic vampires are just cursed city rejectsAnd that's a good thing,.
>>98209394anon what the actual fuck are you talking about
>>98209583I like furry grandma and base radukar, but the others kind of suck. Ivya's axe is cool though.
>>98209600I MEAN, you're wrong because Kritza exists and is fantastic but it's okay.I also just picked up Annika for like 20 bucks and I imagine she'll be pretty good too but not as good as my man Kritza.
What models do we predict next for Maggokin? I know it's not for a while, but I'm curious what we might get with their aesthetic refresh.
>>98209619Lesser demon remake just has to happen for all 4 gods eventually, but i have no idea when. Safe bet would be some gimicky foot hero
>>98209384>Shut the fuck up and talk about thisLike 50 people worldwide play slaanesh so nobody here has a clue what this means for the army>>98209619They're set for a good while, but I think they'll want to redo the plaguebearers and plague drones (pb on flies) at some point. I suppose it depends on whatever 40k decided to do with daemons. Lord of plague and maybe the blightlords could be redone? They're basically just blight kings and those got redone to match the newer aesthetic despite being a pretty recent kit, so maybe gw figures they'll have to redo them too?
>>98208642Didn’t realize StD were that popular I guess the tournament wins are doing some heavy lifting
>>98209657Chaos warriors are one of warhammer's most iconic silhouettes, can't say I'm surprised. They're also usually pretty good on the table, and cheap to collect too. Unless you run heavy darkoath or something.
>>98209628I'm glad that's a general idea for the community that GW is just gonna do all 4 gods at once instead of over time.I do wonder if they'll give foot heroes too or what the plan there is.
>>98209720>I'm glad that's a general idea for the community that GW is just gonna do all 4 gods at once instead of over time.You shouldn't be because there isn't and it wouldn't happen.
>>98209766I'd say it's the most likely option for a daemon update IF a daemon update were to occur. How likely GW is to get off their asses and put that out is a whole other story.
>>98209780demons are not an army anymore, they're split into different factions and this is increasingly true in 40k as well, they won't make an update for all 4 demon lines at once any more than they would make an update for lumineth, idoneth, sylvaneth and umbraneth in the same window.
>>98209720>I'm glad that's a general idea for the community that GW is just gonna do all 4 gods at once instead of over time.It's gonna go the same way greater demon went. Over a few years but within the same time horizon
>>98209819this to me is the most likely option
>>98209819that makes much more sense okey, thanks anon!
what did they mean by this?
>>98209896Eventually Helsmiths will get more stuff?They never specified how long to stay tuned for
>>98209896Nothing.
>>98209901Someone try it with Deepkin on their next post to confirm it’s a boilerplate response.
>>98209256>but his behind the scenes stories should be taken with a big grain of saltIt's pretty obvious at this point, especially since he got pseudo-doxed by some other angry retard after the LW blowup that Boole is not actually a GW insider, that's just his LARP. What he actually likely has is early access to books, which is a fairly common sort of 3rd party leak that can be quite accurate for obvious reasons.
>>98210029Idk if it's JUST books because he does know about a bunch of stuff way in advance (e.g. ogres like a year out), nor does that track with certain stuff like darkwater where not everything made it into the battletome.My bet is that he's got a mate who does graphic design stuff for gw or something, able to see the boxes etc.Then again there is the tlw stuff which would have to come from somewhere else
>>98210047>Then again there is the tlw stuff which would have to come from somewhere elseAll his TLW information came from the 5E core book, which he received in batches, which is partly why his initial reading was so incoherent. >My bet is that he's got a mate who does graphic design stuff for gw or something, able to see the boxes etc.I'm kind of using books as a shorthand for publishing generally, but yeah.
If I buy the Skaventide box, can I sell the stormcast side easily? I just want the rats.
>>98210104You can also just buy the skaven half and not bother with selling dozens of models and a book to get even
>>98209593consistent arab theming for slaanesh because they'll be based in !arabia in the reboot single realm setting consistent eastern euro theming for gravelords because...
>>98210225Bold of you to assume the realms even if they get smashed together into one planet wouldn't just be the exact same shit they are now but just pasted onto a globe.
>>98210225>consistent eastern euro theming for gravelords because...not so fast
>>98210311if it wasn't for the fucked up equipment these would be dark elves
why are slannesh so unpopular? you'd think wargaming chuds would be into the booba bdsm faction. Also the added bonus that a lot of the models can be used across 40K and AoS
>>98210355Hard to paint. The average player is very averse to painting and spending more time than needed to get something looking acceptable if it has any paint on it at all. Hence the abundance of speed painting content.
>>98210355Hard to paint, skill intensive faction, I'm personally more of an unga bunga grug club than a 10 million little hits type of guy myself.
>>98210355the theme is unappealing, the vast majority of players and collectors are not your average gooner stereotypes, those stay secondaries or only do shitty paintjobs and so end up with some other faction instead.
>>98210355>hard to play (usually)>hard to paint>weird sex armyDespite a modern and varied range they're just kind of fucked. On the other hand if you are a fan, you're pretty much good for the next 15 years since their range is so good.
>>98210355>hard to paint>hard to play>dogshit models>pink
>>98210355Them not being easily slap-chopped and contrast painted filters most potential players
>>98210355They're like SoB and CSM in 40k where it genuinely a lot of effort to paint all the detail. They are quite a cool army now though imo.
>>98210355their models are super detailed and old
What IS the most represented armies for events and for tournaments anyway? Aren't IDK bottom for both, and Fyreslayers bottom for events but not for tournaments?
>>98210477>and old
>>98210488I'd make a bet and say SBGL, Stormies, or STD.
>>98210491yes? Most of the range is like 3+ years old now. At the rate that GW releases models + the currently quality of them getting exponentially higher, that is considered old.
>>98210510I hope cops get your hard drive.
>>98210355>kills the popularity of your army nothing personal
>>98210627This really is the biggest filtering kit to exist in gws space.
I wouldn't say Slaanesh being unpopular is entirely down to the models, they've never been popular, really, not even in 40K. It's a theme that doesn't click for everyone.
>>98210635I would've preferred a more ambiguous design tbhonIt's way too obvious half the unit are male whores
>>98210673Its not the design that puts me off rather than just how flimsy the whole kit is to put together. Making them a little bit thicker could possibly help but thats a completely different vibe.
>>98210688lol.
>>98210688Vongrim are unironically welfare scroungers
>>98210412>dogshit modelsthis is the main factor
>>98210355>booba bdsm factioni think thats exactly the problem. i would bet that the general population doesnt jive with the weird sex leather hermaphrodite army. especially given that a decent chunk of aos's player are playing age of dadmar and have families with kids and wouldnt want their kids asking about their collection of half naked sex fetishists on the shelf. >>98210412>dogshit modelsdefinitely not that. the range is very well sculpted except maybe the oldest daemons which are just okay
>>98210688Vongrim backpack balloons are so ugly genuinely ruins the model for me. Gotta give em endrinrigger balloons instead
>>98210772>wouldnt want their kids asking about their collection of half naked sex fetishists on the shelf.Let's be honest i wouldn't want to explain my slaanesh shit to anyone who stumbles upon them, but doesn't know what warhammer is
I wonder if AOS will ever get a apocalypse style game in the future. Would probably have to make boards bigger though by a bit.
>>98210794its like introducing your new friend to soul calibur and the awkward stare when explaining that you main voldo
>>98210808>monkey's paw curlsYes, but by then point bloat will be so extream that those armagedon armies will look like an average 2e horde
>>98205157>TQThat the Kurnothi are 5th edition's release faction.
>>98205157>TQ
>>98210808Consider this: Age of Sigmar: Warmaster
>>98210997i've painted some minis in that scale. fun for a minute, but i dont think it would ever replace 28mm scale for me
>>98210997>>98211006>AoS Warmaster>It's actually regular scale because it's GW spamming behemots
>>98210688>lootedthey are legally obligated to use the term "salvaged"
>>98210673For some reason I'm imagining a Gerudo under that mask on the left.
>>98211164many such cases
>>98211164gerudo scheme hedonites or DoK are a great idea
>>98210355>you'd think wargaming chuds would be into the booba bdsm factionwhat does chud mean to you
>>98211006Looking sick anon
>Order model online from 3rd party store>Long OOP but no reason to believe their listing is wrong>They send the wrong model>BUT it's something I'd probably have bought in the future>pic relatedHmm is it worth the effort of sending it back.... I'm really annoyed though. I'd have bought a Corpse Cart if I'd known it was just the new one.
>>98211369So wait, they send you an OOP model instead of the update? For the samew price? Re-sell it for profit or use it
>>98211369So they had the pic up for the old wight king while selling the new one if I'm reading things correctly here?I mean if you wanted to buy the new one at some point anyway I wouldn't bother with the hassle of sending it back and everything.
>>98211395He wanted the old version of the model, and it was listed with picture of the old one, but instead they sent an updated version of the model that OP was planning to also purchase in the future.
>>98211395Other way around. I thought they had the old one for sale and they sent the new>>98211412My thoughts exactly. I thought they might have gotten some old stock somewhere. Should've known better desu.
>>98210510My Gluttons are older than you.
>>98211369Lie about the model you received and show them some other shit, so you keep the one you got and also the replacement or refund.
>>98211479That's fucked up anon
>>98211479-10 izzat
>>98211479>>98211651+10 in the land of poo and scam
>>98210355Booba BDSM is DoK.Slaanesh is troonerism
>>98209088No fucking way the dwarf heroes for TOW were supposed to be for AoS, if for no other reason than they're made of resin and there is a 0% chance GW would ever make a brand new model in resin for AoS.
>>98205157>TQKruleboyz were, in their earliest iteration, going to be Fimir but then the design team got cold feet and redesigned them as Orcs.
>>98210355Too coomer for normies, but ironically also not the type of models coomers are into which seem to be beastmen and daughters of khaine judging by this board>>98211732Would that matter early on in the design process? To be clear I don't think they are, but it's technically possible.
>>98211754Not really the point you're making, but does anyone have the reveal stream for the Dominion box link anywhere? I remember there was a bit in it where one of the guy goes "Yeah these are really cool orcs" and the other goes "UH you mean ORRUKS" without a hint of irony.
>>98211757>Too coomer for normies, but ironically also not the type of models coomers are intoI think it's just they're not really something most people fantasise about either being or having sex with. Coomers fantasise about having sex with naked elves/snake women, or being a horrible beastman/being cucked by a beastman, but very few people want to be an ugly androgynous thing or have sex with an ugly androgynous thing.
>>98210029I always thought Boole's story was he was mates with someone at GW anyway?
>>98211767Yeah despite being the wow sex army they have very little sex appeal>>98211777Iirc the boole account is supposedly run by a few different people, though I very much doubt that is actually the case
>>98210362>Hence the abundance of speed painting content.God every time I try to find guides on how to paint shit (outside of the usual Vince videos) it's always "how to paint x FAST" or "contrast+". Fuck me I don't want to paint shit fast, I want to paint things well and I don't care how long it takes me.
>>98211757>Would that matter early on in the design process?If its just concept art, probably not, but models are designed differently, hard plastic has 0 tolerance for non-manifold topology, which resin tolerates because the mould is silicon
>>98210673>These two: Metal masks with silk veils, quite easy to paint>The actual Blissbarb kit: Full of intimidating design decisions like chains and straps running across facesNot a fan of that
>four battleforces to compliment 40ks new edition we're really in the fomo era
what ever happened of emberheim?
>>98212022Wasnt it Mosscrain? But either way, Underworlds and Spearhed are still set in embergard as i understand
So how viable are cogforts actually? Has anyone here either played with one or against one yet?
>>98209610>just picked up Annika for like 20 bucksHow the fuck did you manage that?
>>98209575Literally the entire range too design cues from Cursed City. The only models that come out that aren't modelled after the Cursed City look are the occasional limited vampire that harkens back more to the Vampire Counts style. Not to say that the Cursed City look isn't good. It is. But when you realize it's just the look of a single city dominated by a single vampire dynasty it becomes really stupid. Where's the other undead from other regions raised by other bloodlines? Carstinia and Nulahmia certainly should have all troops that look like Vyrkos.I'm glad the Barrow Guard took some armor cues from the old Grave Guard, but almost everything else is the same sort of Ottoman/Slavic look. I want the Gothic look back.
>>98209610He's probably my favorite of the Cursed City vamps. If I didn't already have a significant backlog of undead shit to paint I'd pick him up.
>>98209384>If there are more than 3 friendly PARAGONS on the battlefield at the same time, you must immediately remove those units from the battlefield one at a time until there are only 3 friendly PARAGONS left on the battlefieldHuh, I wonder how easy it'll be to get it
>>98209384Slaanesh isn’t gimping itself for no reason so it’s already looking better than the index.
do we reckon that khazalid holds will still hold a rivalry with tzeentch or is that bit going to be exclusive to khadrons?
What's the deal with Warcry?Who's going to war? Why are they crying?
>>98213102>Who's going to war? Why are they crying?War is a sensless and tragic thing anon
>>98213102>Who's going to war? Everyone.>Why are they crying?Because in the grim darkness of the Mortal Realms, there is Only War™.
>>98211182Gonna have to greenstuff a LOT of noses, though.
>>98213102It's the wars crying because nobody is going. They all sit around playing board games
>>98213038Why would they? Tzeetnch's nemesis is KO, Slaanesh's Lumineth, Nurgle's Sylvaneth and Khorne's Stormcast
>>98213371Wasn’t tzeench the one that fucked with the duaradin holds to begin with?
>>98213410Mostly because chamon had dispropprtionally many horrors over other demons
>>98212002They're shitting out these battleforces with every battletome too for some reason
>>98212002I wouldn't call re-packs fomo. Limited edition models are fomo
>>98212002Pretty standard to get a bunch of discount boxes leading up to a new edition.
>>98212395>Literally the entire range too design cues from Cursed CityNot really, there's definitely two distinct groups.On the one hand you have all the cursed city slav/ottoman stuff; i.e. the skeletons and the random named slav vampires and such. Either based on the design cues established during cursed city, or just recycled wholesale from the game.On the other hand you have the generic vampires, which retain their classic pseudo gothic look. Blood knights, vhordrai, vengorian lord, generic vamp lord (both on foot and on steed). This also includes most of the remaining whfb kits too like the corpse cart and whatever.(Oh and there's also the random one off shit like the warcry warband or the nulahmian character which don't really fit either big design stream)
>>982120022 launch factions and who?
>>98213807I believe it's actually guard, csm, tyranids, and necrons
Dino tail or something
>>98213849Probably true. Looks 'phonish
>>98213849Renewal for the Carnosaur miniature. No proof, but no doubts either.
>>98213849COATLBROS GET IN HERE
>>98213849might be exodites if not lizardmen
>>98212035emberheim was some skirmish homebrew based on the city of ash
What were they thinking
>>98213970Why are you sperging about a good model?
>>98213970>let's give slaanesh another kino modelPresumably
>>98213970SLAAAAY KWEEN
>>98213970>slaanesh aren't getting a wave of models this edition, so they'll get a pity hero>we can't waste on a pity hero more interesting archetypes or types of heroes that actually fill a missing spot, because those are reserved for bigger waves, so they're getting one hero that's just more of the same>but also it can't be too similar to their existing pity heroes and has to one-up them, so dial to 11 the hat, heels and weapon
>>98214075Them still not having a mounted hero really is a shame
>>98214164They’ll get a mounted hero
>>98214164mounted heroes are basically centerpieces nowadays, I think the only one that was ever proposed as pity hero was the wight king in the grave guards box
>>98214231There's also the sylvaneth / gits versus box which introduced the loonboss on giant cave squig, but I get what you're saying. Still, could be a nice end of edition release type treat.
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>>98214274>he's lucius now
>>98214274MAGNIFICENT!
>>98214274Why lolI guess it makes him better but it feels very off the cuff. Never been a part of his lore before, now he has stronger revival than the goddess of life.
>>98214274>>98214311Okay actually reading it, it's more that the entire army of renown is built around Sigvald. That's cool and does feel thematic. He gets a 2+ ward in combat next to other hedonite units (but they take wound spillover), he gets to respawn from the epitome, he gets free movement to the objectives, there's this hilarious magic item representing him looking at himself.It's fun. Kinda like the Khorne heroes AoR but just specifically for Sigvald.
>>98214274they didnt learn their lesson with Eltharion i guess
>>98214274>>98214291Weird
>>98214311>Never been a part of his lore beforeIt's been with him since his revival in 2e, kind of. It was said that mirrors in his vicinity reflect no one but him. Where people would have seen their own reflection they'd instead see him leering back at them.
>>98214311It’s a reference to how he regained slaanesh’s favor and got a new body made for him after escaping the mirror nagash trapped his soul inside
>>98214274Don't let Synessa be outdone, please.
>>98214291Lucius didn’t really have this much going on in order to “revive” though.>>98214311>now he has stronger revival than the goddess of life.Eh….you kinda have to gimp yourself a bit to get it though.Overall it sounds good on paper but it’s still an army of renown.
Seraphon in the rumor engine???Any leakers want to spill their guts?Lizardbros need some hope over here.Are we getting new Temple guard??? We really really need some.
>>98214274IMPORTANT RULES FOR INOORTANT PEOPLE
>>98214330It's based.Legit lately a funny AoR and probably a very interesting change up.I'm glad the boring writer was fired (if that's true)
>>98214372I've been in the hobby for almost 20 years and I could never rely on rumors for knowing what lizardmen are going to get, not once.I only know that they tend to spawn in the first quarter of a year, and never too far from chaos warriors.Except this time the coatl is real for real.Perhaps the thunder lizard will be too one day.
>>98213849Probably the Coatl
>>98214372how about something new instead of just refreshing old shit. So tired of this.
Do you reckon they'll improve armies of renown in 5th and are just setting them up in 4th? >>98214456They can do both.
>>98214468they can but they won't. Seraphon is one of the most up to date armies, you'll take your pity hero and like it.
>>98214456The guards are the one last kit that's extremely at odd with the rest of the range, if they don't get updated they should be removed outright and let the new warriors pull double duty as guardians as well, since they got fancier shields now.But the new futuristic metal masks warrant an actual unit of armored saurus, so they should get one instead of something completely new.
>>98214516What kit is that from?
>>98214554shopped astrolith bearer with warrior parts
>>98212194When I'm bored I just kinda peruse ebay for models I want or big lots but only the versions that have "make an offer" then shoot out lowball offers and sometimes people just say yes.
Was gw primer always this expensive? Can someone recommend a white primer that won’t fuck me over?
>>98214372Skink on coatl for the battletomePossibly updated skinks and saurus guard during the end of edition stuff
>>98214693I've had shitty luck with the cheap stuff that you can get from hardware stores, I hate to say it because it's also decently pricey but Army Painter Brain Matter Beige is honestly a solid white without being too tacky or gritty.
>>98214516that's a pretty cool shoop
>>98205200Where is this supposed Malerion? I don't see it.
Don't know how to play. never played fantasy or age of sigmar, but I've played 40k for 20 years. Just bought some realm lords. what am I in for?
>>98214861Decent wargame with cool models, god awful list building but plays pretty smooth and sometimes has some really cool flavor.
>>98213849Probably Seraphon, but the bare quills on the left honestly give me Tzeentch vibes; those can be seen on Tzaangors and one of the chaos spawn bodies. Also, whatever this is, it seems to not be painted very well.
>>98214851Large black shape sticking out from behind the mountain on the top right.Look up from Teclis
>>98214861What'd you buy anon, did you get the spearhead?Lumineth have one of the few good tomes this edition, so you're in luck.
Primarily just painting rather than playing right now (though I did finally get my hands on a Warcry start set) and can't decide between these two boxes
>>98215005chaos is a lot more diverse
>>98215005As much as I say I like the destro guys, I think the Hunter is better than pirate and I do tend to like Zarbaggz over Grinkrak (admitedly I think grinkrak is fantastic but Zarbagz gitz feels just so perfectly GSG) Chaos has the cool Barbarians, Wurmspat, and Thricefold! I don't care for the skaven as much but I'll say they're fantastic fucking models. (I just don't like Eshin as much as say Skryre or Moulder)
>>98215005get the greenies
>>98215005Bought B&B. Had fun painting it. It also has more models in the box
>>98215047>>98215065>>98215071>>98215090>split votesYeah think I'm inherently more of a Destruction enjoyer but really dig Thricefold Discord and Wurmspat. Think my issue is if I ranked how much I wanted each (faction name over model name for clarity's sake) it's Gitz > Slaanesh > Kruelboyz > Nurgle > StD >Orruk > Mawtribe > Skaven. I should probably actually play Underworlds or Warcry so I know what these models actually do.
>>98215130In my experiance more elite warbands are better in Underowrlds (1e), but maybe it's just my playstyle
>>98215130>I should probably actually play UnderworldsThe new edition is pretty ass and the fucked up thing is these don't even come with their own decks anymore. Also if you enjoy the kruleboyz one you could probably pick it up pretty cheap from stormbringer or ebay since they printed it like crazy.>>98215138Big guy warbands like Mologg or Ogors are very effectively, Blackpowder is admittedly the worst of the 3 though since he had that god awful ammo system. Some of the 3 dudes warbands are a mixed bag, stormcast ones are a bit too swingy and slow to score objectives but can bonk decently well but if you lose a guy you're basically fucked.
>>98215002archers, spears, horses, the cool ghost armor guy, and the lady wearing the thin gown with the smoke. Don't know any rules, haven't even opened the rulebook. these were cool models so I'm giving it a shot.
>>98215161Cool selection anon, not a lumineth guy personally but I've been thinking of picking up the horses and the regent just as a painting project.I think you're actually pretty close to be able to run your collection in spearhead, would just need 5 bladelords.
>>98214861its much easier to learn than 40k from a rules understanding perspective, but arguably has more nuance in some regards-turn order is not fixed. the double turn is something you actually have to think about-enemies can shoot and charge on your turn and vice versa-chargers dont get strikes first, so choosing fight order really matters-no SvT so any unit can fight any target more or less. instead of anti infantry, anti tank, etc units are more generally divided into damage dealing hammers, damage soaking anvils, cheap chaff, and big tarpits, with other more niche rolls like assassins,artillery and support here and there. -cover is much less important, the game has way less shooting than 40k, and most of it caps out at 30", and the average is 18"-spells actually have lores, casting rolls, and in some cases physical models that are controlled on the table-units on average are about twice as many pts as their 40k equivalents, so armies tend to require about half as many models as a 40k army, thus the game overall is cheaper to play and collect, and goes faster too. -its smaller format mode spearhead is actually good and fun, unlike combat patrol. as far as realmlords specifically, they're an elite traditional phalanx army plus wizards and monsters. bit of a glass jaw and dont suffer casualties well which is typical of elves, they're fast, hit hard, have tons of utility and buffs/debuffs, can play melee or shooting or mixed, and excel at ignoring armor with precision strikes (lots of mortal wounds)
>>98215161archers, spears and horses do pretty much what it looks like on the tin. the spears are your shield wall troops for guarding the rest of your army and taking objectives, the archers shoot targets with okay damage and good range, the horse guys are expensive but eye wateringly fast and do high damage on the charge. the guy in ghost armor, light of eltharion, is a straightforward combat character. he's fairly hard to kill for his size and his swords do very high damage. the lady with the smoke is a supporting character who modifies friendly and enemy objective control values, making it easier for your units to score and harder for the opponents
>>98214274Why does this actually sound pretty cool? An AoR worth taking? What's happening?
>>98215657It's all-in on a gimmick, but it's a cool gimmick, because the gimmick is Sigvald.
What I find odd is that the GHB is supposedly also coming saturdatly but we know fuck all except for the retarded fury points gimmickLast year we got a full month of hype building articles.
>>98215796Probably has to be because of the 40k new edition
>>98205157>What AoS-related conspiracy theories do you believe, or are at least willing to entertain?The new pivot with "The Last World" is a cost saving measure that is engineered to kill the Specialist Games Studio of Games Workshop.From 2028 there won't be two separate ranges for Old World and AoS, models will get a box with round + square bases like Daemons did.This explains the rumours of new dwarfs that look more down-to-earth and new humans that resemble Cathay for AoS, plus the radio silence for Old World model releases.
>>98215855This feels totally counterintuitive to everything they've been doing for the par year. Why release new marauders, chaos warriors, etc for both tow and aos if the plan is to just squish em together within the year?Plus aos and tow releases are fundamentally different because of skirmish vs rank n flank. Tow can get away with clonetroopers, aos can't.The new not!cathay stuff is just a background blurb on par with silent people too.
>>98215885stop taking shitposts seriously.
>>98215885also feel like even if it's a dripfeed it makes more sense to keep the screeching TOW autists pacified rather than invite another Fantasy shitstorm
>>98205157>TQI do genuinely think they were planning to memoryhole slaanesh back in 2015. At the same time, I think they reversed course relatively quickly too, either a bit before or after aos' launch. But that decision still had some ripple effects that we saw in for example ynnari in 40k.
>>98215936Does bring up an interesting question. When so few people buy or play a range of models would tou be okay with them writing out the faction entirely and trying something or would you rather keep them around for the flavor
>>98216035Deoends if i can afford to have it around
>>98215885>This feels totally counterintuitive to everything they've been doing for the par year.Yes it's a sudden pivot.Games Workshop does it all the time: they plan something long term on Monday and then on Tuesday they begin a new long term radical plan in the opposite direction.
Anyone know a good source for sylvaneth gossamer archer wings? I have the sprues for the bodies but not the bug wings.I don't know what code words the STLs might be under. If nothing else I need to go to Vlad and then have even more extra wingless bodies.
>>98216224https://battlesanctum.com/collections/sylvanethcosts cash but go nuts, this website changes like every month or so but they usually email updates. STLS are generally good, pretty much just scans.
>>98216266Thanks anon!
>>98216523Ye, my friend has a resin printer and has done a few models for me.(Admitedly since it's 3d scans your quality will vary but I've got 2 mega's from this so saved me 50% on my SOB army)
>>98215657The Khorne hero one was straight up broken my guy. It got nerfed.
>>98216605I'm sad I missed out on it, I have all these khorne heroes too.
>>98216035Prefer to keep em around. I understand shit like bonesplitterz but slaanesh is a bit too big to write out
>>98216605The cowards.
