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A thread for discussing the Star Wars franchise and its various media and tabletop games.

Prequel Edition

>Adepticon roadmaps:
https://www.atomicmassgames.com/transmission/adepticon-2026-roadmap-star-wars-legion/
https://www.atomicmassgames.com/transmission/adepticon-2026-roadmap-star-wars-shatterpoint/

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Fantasy Flight Games’ X-Wing, Armada, and Legion
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>https://pastebin.com/iUriRfaA

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>http://pastebin.com/ZE4gn0yN

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>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/transmission/update-on-star-wars-x-wing-and-star-wars-armada/
>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/star-wars-legion-documents
>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/star-wars-legion-transmissions
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>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/swp-rules/

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TQ: There's a lot of debate on how a sequel story should be done, but if you could rip up the prequels and start from scratch, what would you do differently?

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Alright, which one if you freaks snuck your fetish material into canon?
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>>98208679
TQ
All jedi have blue lightsabers. Anakin has the only purple.

Clone war(S!) implies more than one. I'd have multiple armies of clones if different people. Boba didn't need to be a special clone son for the gene source. It makes a goofy bounty hunter from the OT too important to the setting to never comment on it.

Have Anakin kill some adult Jedi. Maybe give some nobodies a bigger role in the movies so when they get offed by Anakin it's more powerful.
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>>98210065
loli moff is best moff.
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>>98210065
Uooh, bratty moff...
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>>98210065
I bet the laundry detail keep "loosing" a lot of her panties.
>I'm am very sorry, Moff Tavira,
>the damn laundry droid has been acting up again and seems to have shredded some laundry.
>I will personally ensure the droid maintenance detail is properly chastised for failing to uphold their duties
>the cost for any replacement garments you need will be docked from their pay.
>camera pan to laundry detail and a bunch of technicians chucking creds into a pot and drawing sticks for the prize
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I know I'm hardly the first person to point out that the prequels tell a story too big for three movies, but isn't it kind of crazy that Grievous wasn't very explicitly set up as an analogue for Anakin and made into a kind of archenemy for him? They literally had a Vaderesque figure right there but Lucas just wanted him to be some cowardly Bond villain instead.
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I want to do some small scale Star Wars. This looks tight.
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>>98210446
You could probably do a refluff/total conversion of Flames of War or Team Yankee
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>>98210090
>All jedi have blue lightsabers. Anakin has the only purple.
Eh, I don't know. The movies use purple as more of a political color that could swing either way as political power in intrinsically neutral, rather than just a transitory color from light to dark. Palpatine's antechamber is purple, as the office of chancellor is neutral, but being put towards bad ends. In the same way, Mace has a purple lightsaber, partly because Sam Jackson wanted dat purple saber, but he's also the most politically involved Jedi, working towards a good end in the the bad frame work of the stagnant Jedi. Anakin's goals, though human and understandable, are just about himself.

>>98210432
>Isn't it kind of crazy that Grievous wasn't very explicitly set up as an analogue for Anakin and made into a kind of archenemy for him?
Not really? They're both cyborgs and have respiratory problems, but that's about it. I've never gotten the hate around Grievous being a cunning coward. Just because Tartakovsky turned him into the terminator doesn't mean that should be how it is. The big issue is that, as you mention, there isn't enough time to show him being cunning, so all you're left with is the coward.
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>>98210568
For my TQ responses:
I would have liked to see more aliens in the GAR. You get this a little bit with the Wookies and the Pau'ans in some background shots, but making it clear that it was locals and clones fighting together would have been nice. You can also get some on the ground reaction to Order 66. A group of clones and regular soldiers advancing, when to the shock of the locals, the Clones stop short and gun down the Jedi who is leading them could help add to the horror.

To go back to my point on Grievous not getting enough screen time, I would have also liked it if in the opening of Revenge of the Sith, we saw how Grievous likes to kill Jedi. You can have Anakin and Obi Wan get a communique about how Shaak Ti and some Clones have pursued Grievous on to his ship, and you can have Obi Wan and Anakin trying to link up with her, while cutting between Grevious hunting her and the clones. You can see him cutting off the groups in the corridor, using traps to pick of the clones, leading them into ambushes to be overwhelmed by Droids, all the while watching how they fight, and stalking the rescue party just out of sight like a predator, before at last striking when Shaak Ti is out of men and fatigued, killing her just in time for Obi Wan and Anakin to see it, and taking her lightsaber, forcing Anakin and Obi Wan to sneak their way to the Chancellor. You can establish some stakes, establish why and how Grievous is a threat, and get some action in. Though this would probably fuck with the pacing to an ungodly degree.
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>>98210065
Is that you, planefag? The answer is Mike Stackpole, by the way.
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Who do you think made up the original Jedi when they first got together?
I personally find the pyramid thing and Typhon to be a cop-out.
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Modern slop machines can make some nice star wars pictures
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Don't mind me, just the best Star Wars comic run, period!
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>>98210731
I dont think it really matters much or there being a particular reason for it to have been that people over this people. Maybe it was a human group, maybe mon calimari, maybe bothan, maybe it was after regular galaxy wide transportation was established and it was a mix of peoples. doesnt change much.

Though if I would venture, I like the idea that the Jedi are the gestalt of various cultures comming together to formalize a general lightside orthodoxy. Thats why anyone proficient in the force is called a jedi since it just means someone proficient and knowledgeable in the subject. with a cosmopolitan understanding of the force being the jedi order proper, but they have contact with various more niche and particular traditions. Jedi = force user UN, like the republic is the political UN.
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>>98210065
I'm not skeptical of the idea of a Moff keeping a 16 year old piece of ass. Or marrying her. Or even her ruling through him after a stroke. But the idea that a 17-19 year old girl whose skills are 'tight pussy' and 'torture hobby' was able to get the crews of space battleships to obey her is really hard to believe.
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>>98211009
hmm, I remember gemini not like me using trademarked things like star ars.
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>not “big in nemodia” edition
>>98174180
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>>98210065
The one who made Tarkin gay in the post Disney canon.
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>>98211442
It absolutely can make trademarked stuff, you just have to avoid tripping it up.
>visual references
I'd recommend attaching as many reference pics as possible.
Eg. It will let you make a stormtrooper if you ask for a "soldier with a helmet/armor like in picture 1", rather than "stormtrooper"

>specific words
I find that Gemini is allergic to specifc trademarked words. But you can definitely get around it by using alternatives
>droid
Robot
>stormtrooper
Novatrooper
>mandalorian
Sci fi mercenary
>moff
Sci fi officer
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>>98210065
>Corran Horn turned her down
>but not until after seriously considering whether he should bang her for the mission
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>>98213596
She was older by then. And a lot more crazy.
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>>98208679
Are the Mandalorians in Legion going to be a full faction in themselves or is the intended use for them to be mercenaries?
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>>98213982
They can be used as either mercs or a full faction.
But as a full faction their roster is more limited than normal factions: they obviously don't get cheap units, force users and their access to vehicles is more limited.
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>>98214267
>mando
>no force users
Bardan Jusik for legion when?
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>>98214391
When they add the Basilisk Droids and Canderous tanks. Wich is to say, never
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>>98214591
Bardan Jusik is active from clone wars era up and well into the post RotJ warlord so he would fit in.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Bardan_Jusik
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Help! I'm doing a one-shot where all the players are low-level death stick dealers. It will be based off of Glengarry Glen Ross, if they don't sell enough death sticks they will be ousted from the cartel.

Give me ideas for leads on people/places to sell death sticks. Currently I have
>Imperial outpost
>Children's Hospital
>Territory of rival syndicate, probably Black Sun
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Star Wars rules for Chain of Command 2E: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fBXyEerQNTkZAcEQDT6RAdDrj6MiMmDa/view?usp=sharing
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outside of andor is there something else from disney worth watching?
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>>98215055
Season 1 of Mandalorian, Season 2 is optional, just pretend the show ends there
Rogue One is an alright finale for Andor
Solo has its moments
The last arc of their final Clone War season
The Crosshair solo episodes in Bad Batch
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>>98208679
Did Darth Vader lose his cock and balls? Asking for a friend, btw.
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Every ARC trooper dual wielding pistols now is so dumb. That was Fordo's thing just to look cool not a good idea for all your special forces.
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>>98213036
aw, the old drifting around the trademark technique.
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>>98210065
She looks 14 years old. Shouldn't she be in her 20s, or like 18 or 19 by that point in her history? What grown ass man is taking orders from a teenage girl, anyway?
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>>98215435
He was extremely heavily burned below the waist. I would be quite surprised if he still had a fully functional penis.
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>>98211410
Who would you rather follow, some old geezer or Moff Legal Loli?
Her crew is made entirely of simps and fanboys.
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>>98216044
>setting has the tech for reliable intergalactic travel and magic
>not regrow penis and balls
Hmmm
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>>98216131
I mean, if it did, Luke and Anakin wouldn't have needed robot hands.
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Is it just me, or have you also noticed how Obi doesn't seem to fit in the legacy line he belongs in.

>Dooku
Redpilled Jedi who clashed with the Order for being lackeys to the Senate and turning a blind eye to the galaxy's corruption.
>Qui-gon Jin
THE maverick Jedi, he also clashed with the Jedi over their arrogance, way of doing things and hypocrisy (though not to the extent of becoming a Sith like his master)
>Anakin
I don't think I need to go into much detail here. Personal issues aside, he could also see the internal issues with the late Order, called everything straight as it was and his methods of general conduct were at times very "un-Jedi".
>Ashoka
Filoni aside, as a character, she also was outspoken and rebellious at times. And when the Council banished her she never tried to return and even formed her own code of conduct in a pseudo "Grey Jedi" way.

To all of them, Obi-Wan seems like such a stand out. He was a stickler for the rules (not the the extent of Windu ofc but still), conservative in his ideas and with a calm demeanor in general. To the point that he's considered THE ideal Jedi (after Luke I guess).
Seems at least one in that crazy line should have been the straight man.
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>>98217819
I think he takes after Qui-Gon, but sees the shit going down in the Clone Wars, sees how Anakin changes.

ANd he clearly didn't look too closely at the rulebook when he was banging Satine and probably Ventress
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>>98217819
He just took a little while to grow into the role.

By the time of original trilogy, he didn't hesitate to purposefully deceive Luke into joining the Rebellion, because he knew it was for the greater good in the long run.
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>>98217819
The Dooku to Qui-Gon to Obi-Wan to Anakin thing really ends up feeling a little contrived, but that is probably more due to the lack of screen time the relationship gets.
TPM should set things up, but Dooku is just not there and Qui-Gon dies 10 minutes in.

And Ahsoka suffers from starting in a kids cartoon, then being in another kids carton and then Dsiney shitting the bed.
She should have been in Kenobi, and Kenobi should have been about the Hidden Path from the Jedi games doing hidden Jedi things.
And they shouldn't have cast Rosario Dawson.
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>>98217819
Qui-Gon was more like Obi-Wan's wacky dad that makes him feel embarrassed when they're in public. Not that crazy that he took an opposite way of being, not to mention that Obi-Wan clearly looks up to the council members.
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>>98217819
Probably boils down to the fact they didn't want to radically change Kenobi's character from what audiences were already familiar with. they probably just told Ewan just do his best Alec Guinness impression and called it a day. He is pretty much the only OT character besides Yoda that gets any screen time, after all. Anakin doesn't count because he's basically an entirely different person until the ass end of the PT.
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>>98210568
>The movies use purple
because the actor wanted it and nothing more
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Play tabletop games
Post minis
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My AoR players have decided that the easiest way to destabilise the local imperial governor's power is to piss him off, and have taken a shine to psyops lately.
>sleeper agent managed to get camera access to some of the jail cells in the local dungeon
>team recreates a 1:1 replica of a jail cell
>agitator hires a togruta prostitute
>use the last remaining synthflesh in their depleted advanced camouflage kit to make the mousy human engineer's face resemble the governor's wife good enough to fool a casual onlooker
>togruta prostitute and mousy engineer film an implied prison lesbian sex scene
>add a choppy and grainy filter to it implying it has been reconstructed from deleted footage
>release it on planetary holonet
>"EXTRA! EXTRA! Governor's wife caught in lesbian love affair with alien prisoner! We have all the footage the Empire wanted you not to see!"
One of the players even managed to get a AI gen to make "evidence" pictures.
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>>98217871
And Cerasi
And Lena Cobral (widowed milf)
And Siri Tachi

I swear if Obi-Wan wasn't a Jedi he would have like 2 marriages and a dozen children. Don't forget that he did say to Satine that, had she said the word, he would have left the Order to be with her.
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>>98219249
Kenobi seems to have a strong inclination towards tsundere blondes.
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>>98219255
Truly a man of culture.
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>>98218852
damn, you got me rooting for the evil imp governor now.
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>>98208679
>if you could rip up the prequels and start from scratch, what would you do differently?
Set the rise of the Empire one-two decades before it canonically happens and build from there.
There's other things I could say but its mostly just beating a dead horse at this point.
I've always felt the Jedi order of the prequels and its inspired media was lame and interesting and the main reason I don't really care for any of that stuff. It all feels like discount space Harry Potter or something.
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>>98217960
>obi should have been sacked for gay nigger railroad (literally) plot
No
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>>98216087
I'm not letting myself be tortured to death on the orders of some teenage girl.
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>>98219834
>gay nigger railroad (literally) plot
What are you talking about? Are you OK?
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>>98208679
I wish I was a small level trader in Star Wars bros with a small little ship and I sell cool things at markets
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>>98220917
The thing about Star Wars ship is you need to fly them. It would be a constant running battle with tiredness and mechanical upkeep. Every trip has to pay fuel, food and debt.

It’s a young man’s game, but Star Wars is a young man’s universe.
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>>98221453
>It’s a young man’s game, but Star Wars is a young man’s universe.
you would have droids to help you, especially as a small time trader in a small area of the galaxy it would not be that hard
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>>98218852
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my mando box just arrived and my customizable HQs are shipping soon, what else should I aim for to flesh this army out?
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>>98221792
get a second army box, sell off the dupe characters
get a tank
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>>98215129
Andor ending was awesome and although I like Rogue One, going straight from the Andor to the movie made me like it less. I just wanted to spend more time with those characters rather than the random crew they had for the movie.
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>>98220917
This sounds like cozy and fun, comfy-pilled.
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Anyone have experience running the d20 Star Wars tabletop systems? Which is better, Revised or SAGA? I'm looking to maybe play one or the other (though the scene seems a little dead) and I'm mostly looking for which one is more likely to have a solid mechanical foundation for the world and interactions with it outside of standard combat/dungeon crawl stuff.
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>>98222672
I prefer SAGA since it has more content (you can even see them figuring things out as the books release. God damn, Mandalorian Neo Crusader armour is OP and only limited by a lack of official price or way to get outside of stripping dead KOTOR mandos) and is more 'focused' as a SW setting, but Revised is fine if you or your party is used to 3.5e.



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